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Speaker 1: Happy, Happy holidays, Brown Ambition Fam, it's mandra here. As

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Speaker 1: you guys know, Tiff and I are taking a little

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Speaker 1: break before the new year, but we've still got you

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Speaker 1: covered with some of our favorite Brown Ambition moments from

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. All throughout this month, we're looking back

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Speaker 1: at memorable conversations and breaking down the most important lessons

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Speaker 1: we've learned this year. We can't thank you enough for

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Speaker 1: sticking by us in what has become one of our

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Speaker 1: biggest years for the show ever. So many amazing memories

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Speaker 1: from this year and I cannot wait to revisit some

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Speaker 1: of them with all of you. Guys. Are beloved BA fam.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, we are breaking down the importance of

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Speaker 1: toughening up. First, Are you overwhelmed or just lazy? That's

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Speaker 1: the question social justice leader Tamika D. Mallory posed in

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Speaker 1: a controversial Instagram post this year. It caused all kinds

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Speaker 1: of debate and remains one of our most memorable conversations

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Speaker 1: to date. Then, we revisit an inspiring lesson on so

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Speaker 1: surviving and thriving through the pandemic with the one and

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Speaker 1: only founders of Double Dutch Aerobics, Sean and Michelle Clark.

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Speaker 1: Y'all are gonna love this conversation. I have never wanted

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Speaker 1: to go dust off my old pair of double Dutch

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Speaker 1: ropes more than after this inspiring conversation with Sean and Michelle.

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Speaker 1: So sit back, relax, and let's dive into this week's

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Speaker 1: throwback episode.

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Speaker 2: Hey Hey, Hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown, and its.

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Speaker 3: Jean, which I could see me like when I get

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Speaker 1: Yes, And I was just gonna say, you are extra

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Speaker 1: chocolatey today. I'm seeing like the monochrome lip happening. You're

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Speaker 2: I woke up like this. I have not even washed

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Speaker 1: This is oh, shut up, I take it back, but

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Speaker 2: I mean I put a hit on it. I was like,

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Speaker 2: did you watch your face today? To be I'm like,

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Speaker 1: at today. Happy random vision Wednesday. How are you a

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Speaker 1: mandra I am a little frazzled, but I'm doing good.

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Speaker 1: I finally, finally, well, I don't even know if I

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Speaker 1: I just had this epiphany last week. It's time for

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Speaker 2: And not like you like you're gonna say it's time

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Speaker 2: No, it's the percolator. You're showing your age. You're so young.

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Speaker 2: So the original song is time for the percolator.

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Speaker 3: So now they change to the tculator whatever they talk

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Speaker 2: And it's like some of your dance to it right now, like.

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Speaker 3: It's that slide, like you know, you gotta do the

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Speaker 1: This is why you need people of all different you know,

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Speaker 1: because it seems like everything has been a little whack

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Speaker 1: Give it to me, because I know you've been through

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Speaker 3: But no, But what I've would I learned with admins

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Speaker 3: But y'all have ever emailed me professionally or otherwise, it's

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Speaker 3: Sylvia, Leah, Roseanne, Rose, Talatha, little Candice. I've just had

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you can come up executive assistant, whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to call it, human roll of duct tape.

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Speaker 1: Just fix all the things, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, putting their head under a pillow that seems

433
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Speaker 1: like the what their body needs at that time.

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Speaker 5: And I just think I still timed right, like there's

435
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Speaker 5: never a good time, right, but meaning like especially now,

436
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Speaker 5: especially now, are we gonna act like there's not collective

437
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Speaker 5: trauma that we're all dealing with.

438
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Speaker 2: And we've seen people die.

439
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,919
Speaker 3: In mass right, scared to go outside, like run, you know,

440
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,200
Speaker 3: running to get your mask every single time, worrying about

441
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Speaker 3: your elderly parents or your grandma.

442
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Speaker 4: You know.

443
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Speaker 3: Now kids are getting the delta variant and dying. I

444
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 3: saw a four year old just died. We didn't just

445
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Speaker 3: have like these terrible storm systems that passed through. So

446
00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, literally, there is a collective trauma

447
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Speaker 3: that we are experiencing worldwide. You know, this is not

448
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 3: good times, you know, the nineties, when the when the

449
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 3: when the economy is doing good worldwide. No, there is

450
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Speaker 3: a collective trauma that we are experiencing as a human

451
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Speaker 3: race period.

452
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Speaker 4: Right.

453
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Speaker 3: There's no corner of the world that has not been

454
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Speaker 3: experiencing some form of trauma as relates to what's happened

455
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Speaker 3: with COVID, And so I just feel like, although it's

456
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Speaker 3: never a good time, it's actually ill timed because sometimes

457
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: people don't even know that they're experiencing trauma. Like literally,

458
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 3: I won't know that like something is going on until

459
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 3: like Superman will be like you all right, and I'm like, yeah, why,

460
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Speaker 3: He's like, this is your third nap today.

461
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Speaker 2: I'm like it is, you know, And I'm like, well.

462
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 3: Like I'll just be sitting on a cap and I

463
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,919
Speaker 3: can't even keep my eyes open, and I'm like, but

464
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,359
Speaker 3: you slept last night, Tiffany, and I'm not.

465
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 2: I'm weary, but not physically tired.

466
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think, like I hear you says, but well,

467
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Speaker 3: then you have to hear us too, like not as.

468
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Speaker 1: Saying it, and remember that your words have so much power.

469
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Speaker 1: How could she forget?

470
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Speaker 2: How can you forget?

471
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Speaker 1: You can't help but be dificainst that energy. And there's

472
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Speaker 1: plenty of people who were like, yeah, I mean, they're

473
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Speaker 1: thanking her for saying it. And I do think that

474
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Speaker 1: people read this and they were like yop. But I

475
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Speaker 1: also I don't. I don't think this is that much different,

476
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Speaker 1: and maybe I should think before I say this. I'm

477
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Speaker 1: trying to think really fast. But remember Rachel Hollis when

478
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Speaker 1: she came out and she said, do you think I'm

479
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Speaker 1: trying to.

480
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Speaker 2: Be relatable relatable?

481
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Speaker 1: Yes? Was Harriet Tubman relatable Da da da da da?

482
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: Now her, it's it's very different. Rachel Hollis is white

483
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Speaker 1: da da da, you know, and she has that whole

484
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Speaker 1: series called girl dot dot Dot, which is you know,

485
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Speaker 1: I think, culturally appropriating, like a phrase that black women started.

486
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 1: But anyway, and in this case, I just feel like

487
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Speaker 1: it's almost as if she's saying this wasn't for you,

488
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Speaker 1: you know, if you're not if you don't find this,

489
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Speaker 1: if you don't enjoy what I'm saying then it wasn't

490
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Speaker 1: for you, so just keep it moving, you know, Like,

491
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to relate to everybody, but when you

492
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Speaker 1: have a public platform, your words have matter, and they

493
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Speaker 1: they matter and they have such a huge reach. And

494
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Speaker 1: so I just fear for the people who are looking

495
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Speaker 1: at that and internalizing that same dialogue, which is that

496
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Speaker 1: something is wrong with me if I can't do things

497
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Speaker 1: I should have things everyone else should have. I mean,

498
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Speaker 1: this is the peril of being on social media, and

499
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Speaker 1: it is one of those I think digital land mines

500
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Speaker 1: that just it goes off, and I think if you're

501
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Speaker 1: the one who plans it there, you have to take

502
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Speaker 1: responsibility for that. I hate that it was her because

503
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Speaker 1: she's wonderful and her work is so extraordinary. But I

504
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 1: was disappointed, I really was in how she handled the

505
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Speaker 1: whole thing, Like, yeah.

506
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Speaker 3: Girl, Like laziness is not Sometimes laziness is actually the symptom.

507
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Speaker 1: To a greater issue. Isn't that what white people have

508
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: been calling Black people for so long? Or like wanting

509
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: to think that we're just lazy? Yes, why are you complaining?

510
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: Don't be a victim? Wow, it's like internalized racism, internalized patriarchy,

511
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: internalize all the things that are manifesting themselves, and that if.

512
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Speaker 3: You would just do this, Like I have a friend

513
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Speaker 3: that created something and it was stolen from him.

514
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Speaker 2: He's a black creator.

515
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Speaker 3: It was stolen for him, and I'm like, you know

516
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Speaker 3: all the things they say, Well, if you just worked hard,

517
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Speaker 3: he did. He built something that was unique and brought

518
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Speaker 3: it to market connected with an advisor.

519
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: The advisor knew wealthier folks, gave them.

520
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Speaker 3: Back room access to the thing that he built, so

521
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Speaker 3: they were their engineers were able to recreate it, was

522
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Speaker 3: able to raise one hundred million dollars for their project

523
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Speaker 3: off his black back.

524
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Speaker 2: And you'd be like, oh, well, maybe went to school.

525
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Speaker 3: He went to Harvard. I'm sorry, he went to Harvard.

526
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: So all the things you can check off all the lists,

527
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:10,879
Speaker 3: you can build something, you can work really hard, you

528
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 3: can go to Harvard. You could do all those things,

529
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Speaker 3: and someone can still come in and take from you

530
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Speaker 3: and create.

531
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Speaker 2: Wealth from them for themselves off of you.

532
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 3: Hello, hello Elvis Presley, Hello all the TikTokers that take

533
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: all the dances from all the brown babies on TikTok

534
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,120
Speaker 3: you know, and so like that is not something new.

535
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 3: So I hate when people say that, well, if black

536
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: people just work harder, I'm like, you're kidding, right, you know,

537
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 3: because that's not really what's happening. You know, it's possible

538
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Speaker 3: to work hard and still be taken from and still

539
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: be stolen from. I mean, it's happened to me, and

540
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Speaker 3: then what do you do?

541
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Speaker 2: Then? How much hard am I supposed to work?

542
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Speaker 3: I can't make miracles happen, you know, It's just like, yeah,

543
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Speaker 3: I mean so to see that, especially in the landscape

544
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Speaker 3: that we're in now, that's why, like I said, you

545
00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 3: guys to do it's best for you. I am a

546
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Speaker 3: much best place than I was before. When I tell

547
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: you what, right before this, I wasn't laid out for

548
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Speaker 3: a nap. I was like mm hmm, and I have

549
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 3: a vacation planned in two weeks. And then I have

550
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Speaker 3: a yes, I'm going, so me and me and I

551
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: was gone home. Maybe you don't want to say no,

552
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 3: well I won't say I will because you don't know where,

553
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 3: but I'm just gonna go to I was like Superman,

554
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: you know, I've never been to Niagara Falls.

555
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Speaker 2: Let's go for three days. So just book a quick

556
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Speaker 2: three days.

557
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Speaker 3: Jont mid midweek to like Niagara Falls, and then for

558
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Speaker 3: my birthday and Hawaii for a week.

559
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Speaker 1: Okay, a little gym and pam office moment. I don't

560
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Speaker 1: know if you watch the Office, No, I don't, but

561
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Speaker 1: some of us are not millennials and it shows.

562
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Speaker 6: I know.

563
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 2: So, but yeah, Hawaii for my birthday.

564
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Speaker 3: And I just told myself every other month I'm gonna

565
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: because literally I have Fridays off, so I can leave

566
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: Friday to Sunday, you know, bring a friend. I have

567
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,120
Speaker 3: so many points, so I just told myself I'm prioritizing

568
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 3: the things that bring me joy, reading books. Y'all know,

569
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Speaker 3: I take my daily walks. You know, I take my

570
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 3: nap if I need it. You know, I was just

571
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: talking to my puplicist Tracy. The Days shout out to you, Tracy,

572
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 3: I should connect her with Your friend's name is Marisol Marisa.

573
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: You know you have Mariice's resume and I already connected

574
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: you to her, so all you gotta do.

575
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Speaker 4: It's just.

576
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 2: No, I should connect she just busy.

577
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Speaker 4: Let her get her.

578
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: No, I mean just to connect them to together, just

579
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 2: to like, you know, just I think.

580
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Speaker 1: It's just they would get on great. Yeah, Tracy is

581
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: at her own little pr empire two yes.

582
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Speaker 3: And so I no, I just think that, Like so

583
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 3: she was saying today, She's like, you know, you don't

584
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 3: have You're not doing that much press anymore. And I'm like, no,

585
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 3: you know, because I've I've drawn a boundary of like

586
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: it's not that serious unless I'm really like rolling out

587
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: a big project. So to me that you have to

588
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 3: do what's right for you for me social media, you know,

589
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 3: Like I don't know, and you know, I don't see

590
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: myself coming back where I was before, you know, creating

591
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,199
Speaker 3: things ahead of time, giving it to the team. I

592
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: come on to do like my fun lives when I

593
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 3: want to, and then I jump off and I'm happier.

594
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: I'm light, you know, I feel like I have way

595
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 3: more space. I'm reading literally at least a book a week,

596
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 3: if not too and like I'm just I'm just in

597
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 3: a much better place in space. So ta Mika, Marie,

598
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: I loved you, Gurubadu saying it. And you know, if

599
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 3: you are feeling like you know, maybe you're not as motivated,

600
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 3: you know, ask yourself, what are the underlying factors that

601
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 3: might be preventing you from moving forward in the way

602
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 3: that you feel as capitalism, you know.

603
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: Capitalism, they create this. I mean, I think, well, I mean,

604
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Speaker 1: I just want to stay on this topic for a

605
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Speaker 1: little bit because I we're kind of segueing into what

606
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Speaker 1: it means to be even just a business owner or

607
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: to go out on your own. And I think like

608
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: you've always been really good about realistic entrepreneur stories and

609
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: about the struggle and about the grind. But I also

610
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of people out there who

611
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: have launched businesses and they think that or you have

612
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Speaker 1: this idea that if I'm not working twenty four to seven,

613
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Speaker 1: then I'm not doing enough, or I should be working

614
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Speaker 1: on the weekends. And I feel like it's the I've

615
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: had the benefit of watching people like you build your

616
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Speaker 1: business and also having my financial planner, Helen has an

617
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: even broader service where she actually coaches and helps people

618
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Speaker 1: become CEOs. And what I love is that I have

619
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Speaker 1: when I've approached my business is I've taken I've decided

620
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to sacrifice my mental health. I want

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Speaker 1: a better way of working. You know, I don't want

622
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Speaker 1: to work when I don't need to. I want to

623
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Speaker 1: be able to choose how I spend my time and

624
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: to and like you said, like it's okay to take

625
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: care of yourself and you can still be a badass

626
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: business person like a business woman business person when you

627
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: take naps, when you take a walk, you know, when

628
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: you draw those lines. And we need more examples like that.

629
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Speaker 1: So I'm so glad that you're open about it. I

630
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: am a four. I quit at four o'clock, and.

631
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: I love it so much. Yeah.

632
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: I was already kind of doing it before, but now

633
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Speaker 1: I don't have to fee guilty about it.

634
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 3: Because you're the boss, you know, And to see my

635
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: boss say, oh, that's why it's me.

636
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: Yes, just that now, and yes, and I flexible working

637
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: arrangements now that you can work remote, I think it

638
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: is wonderful. And hopefully yes, and take those naps during

639
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Speaker 1: the day. And I would literally, even when I was

640
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Speaker 1: nine to five, like schedule an hour and you know,

641
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Speaker 1: I have my nap, my moon pod down, my little

642
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: nap zone. I would take a nap unapologetically around three

643
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Speaker 1: o'clock because it's like, what am I going to do?

644
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 1: Drug myself with caffeine? There's not the people we've just

645
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: normalized drugging ourselves to get through the day when what

646
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: our bodies need is some rest, you know.

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Speaker 3: Because what you learn is this is that if you

648
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Speaker 3: maximize the time that you are working, you actually don't

649
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 3: have to work as much. So I've learned that, like,

650
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: for example, if I was if I was writing, like

651
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: when I was writing getg Go with Money, right, there

652
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 3: were times when I was like, oh, Tiffany, I got

653
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 3: to push through, and I'd be like, well, what does

654
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 3: it do? Because I promise you, whatever this tired work

655
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: thing is, you're gonna have to rewrite this section because

656
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be good work. So I've learned to

657
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 3: lean in when I'm feeling energized. Like so if I

658
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: know I'm feeling energized and normally I maybe only blocked

659
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: out an hour, I'm like, let's do three, Tiffany, because

660
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: you got the juice right now, because tomorrow, when you

661
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 3: don't feel like doing anything, I don't do anything, you know.

662
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: So that's what I've really learned.

663
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 3: It's almost like my own circadian rhythm as it relates

664
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 3: to work, not just not just sleep. Right, So I

665
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: learned that when I'm on it, I'm like, oh, okay,

666
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: juices are flowing. I might flow for three days straight,

667
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: and so I'll really go hard because I know that, like,

668
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 3: you know, Saturday, Sunday or Monday or sometimes I just

669
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: like today, I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't really like

670
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, you know, but because last week

671
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 3: I leaned in when I had the juice, it gives

672
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 3: me space to relax when I don't, because what it

673
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: is is that something internally is telling me pull back

674
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: and relax, and it's okay to honor that now, to

675
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: be honest, it's different. I always remind Tracy, my publicist,

676
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: because she's just started in business, and so I remind

677
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 3: her too that she has to create space. But that

678
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 3: looks different because you like, in the beginning, the work

679
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: is a little bit.

680
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 2: A little bit more frantic.

681
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna lie, Like there's no way to

682
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: get around that in the beginning because you don't even.

683
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 2: Know what you're doing just yet.

684
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: You know, you're still figuring it out, but still really

685
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 3: trying to carve out space, you know, Whereas now I

686
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 3: don't need to work frantically literally at all.

687
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, girl, what do I pay these people for?

688
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 3: I pay I pay the people to for franticness you know,

689
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: and I pay them well and so I it yo,

690
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 3: cause Tracy will come over and like like work for

691
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 3: my house and like literally it should be like you're

692
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 3: just on the couch under a blanket. I'm like, girl,

693
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 3: I'm listening to to my new business book. I'm reading

694
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: this book now called Bill to Sell and it's so

695
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: great and I'm like, I am working. I'm just working

696
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 3: in my my favorite target night dress and my headphones.

697
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: It's just like this what a self made CEO can

698
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: look like.

699
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 3: Girl, And honestarily, when I tell you what you do

700
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 3: that I promise you the After my six weeks, the

701
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: level of just like excitement and traces that you've been

702
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: on one I have been. That break recharged me so fully.

703
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: It took my idea from like this is eight figures

704
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 3: to pitching it and people telling me like when it's ready,

705
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: this is nine figures. You let me know, And I'm like, really,

706
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 3: you know, like that taking time and giving yourself space

707
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 3: truly is the best way to success. That overworking yourself

708
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 3: just means whatever ideas and things you come up with

709
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: are tired and semi broken, and so like you take

710
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: a break before you break. You know, that's always my advice.

711
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: We're so excited to have Michelle and Sean Clark from

712
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: Double Dutch Aerobics from Atlanta in the house with us.

713
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining Brown.

714
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: And I remember what was the year that, What was

715
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 3: the Girl Trek year?

716
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 4: What year was?

717
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 6: Because you know, because I was Yep, it was right Angel.

718
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: So I met Seana Michelle in Colorado at the Girl

719
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: Trek conference. Girl Trek is this awesome nonprofit that just

720
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: it helps black women get moving.

721
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: To say they have energy is to say water is wet.

722
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: And I just remember being like, what they people that

723
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 3: you never think would double do. I mean, they had

724
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: people out there eighty black white age. Now I didn't

725
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,959
Speaker 3: grow I don't know how to double dutch. I felt

726
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 3: that was like my shame. I moved away from my

727
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 3: black neighborhood just just one year too late before they

728
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 3: was teaching her, and so I was like, I can't

729
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 3: do it.

730
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 2: You're like you can. So yes, Mandy knows how to

731
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: double Dutch. So I'm jealous of her.

732
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Okay, now that was twenty years ago. I'm so excited

733
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: about y'all's business. I think Tiffany knew y'all first. I

734
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: think I might have slid into y'all's DMS or likewise,

735
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: but we were we were chatting on ig and y'all

736
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: know I'm from Atlanta and double Dutch is just such

737
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: a nostalgic activity for me, you know, when I was

738
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: a little girl, that was just you know, we were

739
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: latchkey kids in the neighborhood with our bikes and a

740
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: couple pairs of jump ropes and you could not tell

741
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: us nothing. We had the best time, you know, with

742
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: like the littlest amount of equipment. And I just love

743
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: the concept of this business. But as fun as it is,

744
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: and how you know, all the energy and enthusiasm that

745
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 1: y'all bring to you know, bringing fitness to the Atlanta area,

746
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: it's also been a pandemonium. It's a pandemic the last year. Right,

747
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: How have y'all been impacted as a business? You know,

748
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: where was your business at when the panda hit kind

749
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: of set the scene for us, Yeah, where were you

750
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: at right before the pandemic hit? I mean this is

751
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: a very much in person. You're sweating indoors, you know,

752
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: you know, jumping and breathing your heart out, and that

753
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: was all of a sudden not okay, yeah, it.

754
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 4: Slapped us in the face.

755
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 6: It's very scary for us.

756
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 4: It was very scary. So it was February.

757
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 6: It was February.

758
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 7: Well, first, we've been in business for seven years, right,

759
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 7: and it's funny because twenty twenty it was our best year.

760
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 6: Like it was starting off amazing. Michelle and I we were.

761
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 4: Like, oh, we finally were going to the top.

762
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 6: We're going to the top.

763
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: Yes, New Year's Resolution time.

764
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 4: I mean that is super Bowl, right, it was becoming

765
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 4: our biggest year sure, yes, as a business.

766
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 7: So so in the beginning, you know, we were booking

767
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 7: a lot of events for the summer. So we were

768
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 7: booked for the summer because we also do so outside

769
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 7: of teaching our normal classes, we do events like girl

770
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 7: Track and essence fests and prisons. We teach at federal

771
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 7: prisons across the country. We do tours, we do you know,

772
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 7: we do a lot of things. And everything was but

773
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 7: we had our certification weekend that was sold out.

774
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 6: It sold out in like two weeks.

775
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 4: So what certification weekend is where we certify instructors to

776
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 4: teach our program in their city or their state. Right,

777
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 4: so we were completely sold out and it sold out.

778
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 4: What in like five days.

779
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 6: It was super fast.

780
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And that was in February. We had completely

781
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: sold out fast, and it was going to be in April. Yes,

782
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 4: And we hadn't done one in a year because we

783
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 4: had a little human and so we had took a

784
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 4: year off. We took a year off from certification, not

785
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 4: from work. So this was our year back into certification.

786
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 4: And the fact that it sold out so fast, it's

787
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: like we were finding our group.

788
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, we were in a groove and.

789
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 4: Then well, y'all, y'all here, and then the world said

790
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 4: stop wait a minute. And at first we were like,

791
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: you ain't. I don't care about no pandem, but you're

792
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 4: not gonna stop us.

793
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 6: We still doing it. We were still still going.

794
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 7: You know, it's the New York, right, Let's just keep going,

795
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 7: keep going until they stop us.

796
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 4: Until like put us to like lock the doors, tell

797
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 4: us that you cannot leave your house right until.

798
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: Keisha lance Bottom shows up at the door to get

799
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: till Keisha Land's Bottom shows up in person at the door.

800
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,919
Speaker 4: I was like what, I was devastated. I was devastated because.

801
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: What did it mean for y'all financially? Like paint the picture?

802
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: I mean, did y'all have reserves. We talk a lot

803
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: about you know, personal financial rainy day funds, but for

804
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: small business owners, I mean seven years in is still early.

805
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: How were you guys financially?

806
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 7: So we we had a we had a little we

807
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 7: had a little little reserves, Smitch, but you know we

808
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 7: had to eventually we had to get a loan.

809
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

810
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 7: That got us through it. And then during the pandemic,

811
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 7: I learned the stock market. So it was actually a

812
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 7: blessing because you know, everything was shut down. I had

813
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 7: nothing else to do, and at the time during the pandemic,

814
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 7: it was actually the best time to invest, yep. So

815
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 7: that actually helped us out a lot, you know, investing

816
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 7: in the stock market. I would literally like study every day. Yeah,

817
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 7: I'd study every day. And so we we we we

818
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 7: did okay with that. That that got us through.

819
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 4: That was helping us.

820
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 7: And then out here in Atlanta, they opened that kind

821
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 7: of early. So like when did they shut us down

822
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 7: in March and the beginning of March, so by like

823
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 7: the middle of May, we start.

824
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 6: We started. We started class.

825
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 4: Again outside outside because the studios that we were renting

826
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 4: were completely closed and the schools where we were working,

827
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 4: everything was completely closed, as you know. So we started

828
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 4: classes every Saturday nine am, and God was on our side.

829
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: It didn't rain one Saturday that entire the highest summer

830
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: from May till September. It didn't rain one time at

831
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: our time Monday and every Saturday. So we were pushing it.

832
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 4: So we had classes outside that helped us out. I

833
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 4: also started to dive more into I suffered from fibruarys

834
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 4: before having children, and I healed myself naturally, and I

835
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: was helping women a little bit, but I started to

836
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 4: dive into that even more. So I was doing lives

837
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: once a week, and so I started to coach women

838
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: for money. And then I was also selling my ebook.

839
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 4: So we just started to like we've just.

840
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: I know, I bought one.

841
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 3: I said, you know, I suffered from from I suffered

842
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: from five.

843
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 4: So we started to dive into that more. And that's

844
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 4: also another passion of mine, so that, you know, you

845
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 4: just start to to push. I also started to in

846
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 4: terms of mentality, Sean's a little better than me.

847
00:40:59,080 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 6: I was.

848
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, this is it, this

849
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 4: is it. Life is over, you know, like it's over.

850
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,080
Speaker 4: And so I had to get out of that because

851
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 4: I was Sean someone we know passed away. It started

852
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 4: to get more real, you know what I mean.

853
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 7: And I think I think that was the biggest part

854
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 7: for me. So, you know, we you know, we lost

855
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 7: a lot of money. We weren't making money obviously because

856
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 7: we're in the fitness business. We were selling more ropes.

857
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 7: And then okay, so I'm all over there.

858
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 6: Let me go back.

859
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 7: First of all, I gotta I gotta shout out our

860
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 7: double Dutch community. So like we have so during for

861
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 7: we have memberships, so we have lifetime members, we have

862
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 7: yearly memberships, we have monthly membership. Our lifetime members stuck

863
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 7: it out. They came to class every week. They were

864
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 7: supporting us, they were bringing people to class. So they

865
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 7: were really really helping us. So I just want to

866
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 7: I just want to. I want to say that, yes,

867
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 7: I want I want to thank them for that, because

868
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 7: our community is growing and it's super supportive because Michelle

869
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 7: and I we give one hundred percent of us right

870
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 7: to this business, to this brand, and they feel it

871
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 7: and they know it, you know.

872
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 6: So it's all love, you know, because.

873
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 4: Our classes did very well outside during the pandemic, which

874
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 4: was like oh okay.

875
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: It was probably it sounds like the It sounds like dang.

876
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 1: I wish I had been in Atlanta to weather that's

877
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: out because what I mean, it probably just helps you

878
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: meet the endorphins alone, but also just is there anything

879
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: more joyful right than double Dutch to be doing outdoors

880
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:36,280
Speaker 1: during a pandemic.

881
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 4: It's like, for that moment, everything was okay and that

882
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 4: time being, you know what I mean.

883
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 7: And then second to that, I think most importantly like, oh,

884
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 7: like I was saying before, so we were losing a lot,

885
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 7: but what was really important to be, like I said before, was.

886
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 6: Our health right.

887
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 7: So you know, I'm worried about my mother in New York,

888
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 7: my sister, like my brother, all of them have pre

889
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 7: existing ILK condition. And so I started a Zoom Fitness

890
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 7: class online and it was really just family and friends

891
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 7: because in my mind, I'm getting emotional hold let me,

892
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 7: let me calm down. In my mind, I had to

893
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 7: make sure everyone was okay. So for me, I was like,

894
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,720
Speaker 7: all right, every day, we're gonna work out, we're gonna

895
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 7: eat right, we're gonna juice, we're gonna you know, we're

896
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 7: gonna do whatever we have to do to get through

897
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 7: this pandemic, you know.

898
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 4: So and then Sean and I will work it out

899
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: like crazy. Because at first you're like, oh, first, sure, upset,

900
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 4: it's so many emotions happened. So first upset that everything

901
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 4: is shut down. Then you're like, okay, well I have

902
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 4: to be home. Let me take advantage of being home, right,

903
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 4: And so I was doing what to a day workout? Yes,

904
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 4: we were having the kids when it was my turn

905
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 4: to workout, you know, thank god for YouTube. Put the

906
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 4: kids on YouTube to work out downstairs. Then we will

907
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: work out outside. I was getting a little fit, and

908
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 4: then I mean more fit. Then it's like, wait a minute,

909
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 4: we really tried. Wait are we really tripped? Wait this

910
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 4: is not going to end like in a month? Wait

911
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 4: two months.

912
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: So now I don't want to work.

913
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 4: Out no more. Now I'm suppressed. Now I'm eating like

914
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 4: a crazy person. I don't know. The motivation went away.

915
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 4: And then we started to hear about people dying and

916
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 4: it's like, my mom, I just I just felt down.

917
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 6: It was just one after the other.

918
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 4: It was just one after the other. It was like,

919
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 4: oh my god, this is is this the end of

920
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: the world? Wait a minute, is this how happened?

921
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,919
Speaker 3: Like you know, like like you know, how your grandma said,

922
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 3: it's the last lace.

923
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 2: It's always it's.

924
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 3: Always the last days. When they get old, You're like, well,

925
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 3: why why I couldn't do the last days when you

926
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 3: were five?

927
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: You're talking about the last days now.

928
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: But like, if we if we dial back a little

929
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 3: bit came I mean, for those who are not familiar

930
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: with double double dutch aerobics, like what how?

931
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: What?

932
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 6: Like?

933
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: What made you say this is what I want to do?

934
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 3: Like, because it's such a unique business, I would love

935
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: to know some of the origin story.

936
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 4: Okay, So I went to acting school. I did musical theater,

937
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 4: so I you know, nine of music theater people we

938
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 4: do waitressing and bartending, and we teach. I was a

939
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 4: spin teacher, so I was teaching everything in the world.

940
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 4: I told everything you could imagine. I can't even swim,

941
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 4: but I was teaching water robins. So during that time,

942
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 4: Sean was my boyfriend at the time, and I've been

943
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 4: jumping double since I was four, so I always told

944
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: him I was good, but everybody from New York says

945
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 4: they're good, so he thought I was good, like regular good,

946
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 4: you know. And so I also was a world champion,

947
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 4: so I did street style jumping and competitor style jumping.

948
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 4: So we were at an event for the YMCA where

949
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: I was teaching spin class. So I was teaching five

950
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 4: thirty am spin class. Sean only came to one of

951
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 4: my class, but that's a different story anyway, So we

952
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 4: so you hear numbers. He saw me teaching and jumping,

953
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: and he was like, oh, I knew you were good,

954
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 4: but I didn't know you were like that good. And

955
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 4: so when I told him this idea, he was like, oh,

956
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: you have to start next week, like you have to start,

957
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 4: and so I said okay, and then I started the

958
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 4: next week.

959
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, we literally started the next week.

960
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: And what were you doing at the time, oh, Sean? Yeah,

961
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: what was Sean doing while he was telling you to

962
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: start a business?

963
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 7: Well, I owned a film company, so I was a

964
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 7: videographer and editor. So my best friend and I we

965
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 7: started making movies when we were like eighteen and nineteen.

966
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 7: We would do like like one hour shorts and you know,

967
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 7: we you.

968
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 6: Know, we just for years we were doing it.

969
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 7: And so I went from filming movies into like film

970
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 7: doing like corporate events and weddings.

971
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 6: And things of that nature.

972
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 7: And then I moved from that and I started a

973
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 7: teleprompter company. So I was prompting. I was doing like

974
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 7: television shows, and I worked with like Obama, Beyonce likes

975
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 7: let me tell you, let me tell you now, So

976
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 7: I mean I did it.

977
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 6: I did it for ten years.

978
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 7: So I worked with literally anybody you can think of,

979
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 7: I probably worked with them.

980
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 6: And so I was doing that for a while. And then,

981
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 6: like you know, I've always been like.

982
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 7: An entrepreneur that was young, you know, my my family

983
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 7: and now we opened a record store when I was

984
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 7: twenty years old. You know, we had a record label.

985
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 7: It was the nineties, you know, we had a record label.

986
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 7: We managed groups. I started promoting parties when I was eighteen.

987
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 4: And actually how I met Sean was he was I

988
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 4: was bartending and he made a movie called this Thing

989
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: called Love and I was like, oh, they made a

990
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 4: movie by themselves.

991
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 6: That's dope.

992
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 4: So I'm trying to get me to buy it. But

993
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 4: I don't buy stuff at work because I'm kind of productive.

994
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: You came in with like the box of DVDs to

995
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: sell your room.

996
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: I love it.

997
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 7: So my best friend at the time, I worked for

998
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 7: the Border Bed briefly, and my best friend, my best

999
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 7: friend and I we literally quit our jobs. We made

1000
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 7: this movie, put the did the DVDs, we went out,

1001
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 7: we went out in the streets and we were selling them.

1002
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 7: And we did very well out in the streets, out

1003
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 7: in those streets. And so my friend invited me to

1004
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,240
Speaker 7: this event she was having. She was like, you know, Sean,

1005
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 7: come on out, you know you can promote your movie.

1006
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 7: And I was like, back, I'm coming. So when I

1007
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 7: got there, my best friend and I we both had

1008
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 7: on the same shirts.

1009
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 4: And I saw grown people with the same shirt, Like,

1010
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 4: what's in the same shirt for I was like, it

1011
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: looks a little crazy, you know what I'm saying. So

1012
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 4: I wanted to read his shirt, so I asked him

1013
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 4: to come over and read his shirt. He doesn't drink,

1014
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 4: so I wasn't selling him a drink, right, So he

1015
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: he said I could have the movie only if I

1016
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 4: promised to give my honest review. And so, being a

1017
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 4: theater major at the time and I was in circling

1018
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 4: the square, I thought I have to watch it, and

1019
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 4: I thought it was so good, and they made it

1020
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 4: with three hundred dollars, so I was thoroughly impressed. And

1021
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 4: then I called to tell him my review of the

1022
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 4: movie and then.

1023
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 7: Every day literally been talking every single day.

1024
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,359
Speaker 2: So how long how many years ago is that?

1025
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 6: That was twelve years ago?

1026
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: Wow, look at him and completely tall.

1027
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 4: The Saints, but getting back in the bay. So he

1028
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 4: was my boyfriend. He was still doing. He was doing.

1029
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 4: He was an entrepreneur at the time I was teaching spend.

1030
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 4: I was bought. I was doing everything that theater people

1031
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 4: do right, and so he saw that I was good.

1032
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 4: He told me to start the class. I started the

1033
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: class that next week and the person who I was

1034
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 4: teaching I was teaching with different teammates off and on,

1035
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,719
Speaker 4: but they couldn't stay consistent, which was understandable because this

1036
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 4: was my you know what I mean, this was my passion.

1037
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 4: So Sean was like, well, man, sure you have continue

1038
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 4: teach me everything. And I was like, okay, Now, Sean's

1039
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: one of those people like we have the studio. Now,

1040
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 4: guys who put in the lights? He done, did the

1041
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 4: what do you call those things? He put up the

1042
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 4: designs in here. He's a YouTube learner, right, so he

1043
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 4: learns things really fast. So I was able to teach

1044
00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 4: him everything and then he enjoyed, Well, you can say

1045
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 4: what you enjoyed. He actually began to enjoy.

1046
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1047
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 7: So, so the idea was to get the business off

1048
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 7: the ground, get it rolling, and then I would jump

1049
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 7: out like no pun intended.

1050
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 6: But what happened.

1051
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 7: What happened was I started enjoying it because it's like, so,

1052
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 7: if you ever took one of our classes, it's bigger

1053
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 7: than Double Dutch. So it's like, like I said, we

1054
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 7: build communities in here. It's like we're trying to build

1055
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 7: like little love pockets around the world. Like when you

1056
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 7: come to our class, there's no judgment, you know, it's

1057
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 7: it's high energy, it's all of and that's what people get,

1058
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 7: you know. So I started enjoying that because that's like,

1059
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 7: that's my ultimate goal in life, you know, Like I

1060
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 7: know it sounds corny, but to change the world through love,

1061
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 7: I know it's corny.

1062
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,240
Speaker 6: But I get a chance to do that here.

1063
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 7: And then couple with the fact that I get to

1064
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 7: be with my wife twenty four hours a day he

1065
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 7: likes me, which is done Like that doesn't work for

1066
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 7: a lot of people, I guess, but that's that's really

1067
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 7: the biggest thing Michelle and I have in common is

1068
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 7: that we like to be around each other all the time,

1069
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 7: like we like to be around each other all the time,

1070
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 7: and this gives us the opportunity to do that. Because

1071
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 7: when I was younger, you know, I always knew I

1072
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 7: wanted to be an entrepreneur, but I didn't. I didn't

1073
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 7: want to work hard enough to where I didn't have

1074
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 7: enough time for my family, because it's for me, it's

1075
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 7: family first always, because that's what makes me the most happiest.

1076
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 6: So this this gave but this gave me the opportunity.

1077
00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 7: I was like, oh wow, we could like be together

1078
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 7: and build and rock out and you know, like show

1079
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 7: the world with love is like and you know, like

1080
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 7: this is this is And then.

1081
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 4: The classes, the classes were going really well. And then

1082
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:08,360
Speaker 4: after we got married in twenty thirteen, we both we

1083
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: didn't really have a conversation, but we both were like, Okay,

1084
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 4: well we'll be gone because we're not staying here exactly.

1085
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 4: We knew we didn't want to be in New York anymore.

1086
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 4: So our members when we decided to move, first it

1087
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 4: was La Then we decided to move to Atlanta, and

1088
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 4: so our members were like, well where are you going,

1089
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 4: and so like what are we going to do? And

1090
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 4: so that's when we created Certification and part of the

1091
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 4: reasons in certification is so successful is because Sean and

1092
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 4: I coming from different different perspectives during certification, I've been

1093
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 4: jumping my whole life, so I don't really remember what

1094
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 4: it's like not to know how to jump. And I

1095
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 4: also know how to transfer street jumpers into to teach

1096
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: them double dutch aerobic style double dutch, because I know

1097
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 4: where they're coming from. Seawan is coming from not learning

1098
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 4: since he was a kid, so his perspective is different

1099
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 4: in terms of how we teach those people. So combined,

1100
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,879
Speaker 4: we're really able to relate to anybody that comes into

1101
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 4: our classroom or into certification weekend. Now, to get back

1102
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 4: to the whole pandemic, so I'm sorry we'd be gone

1103
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: to a million tendents, but to get back to the

1104
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 4: whole pandemic life after, yeah, I was getting I was

1105
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 4: getting a little depressed after you know the excitement of Okay,

1106
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 4: we're home, let's take advantage of that. I was getting

1107
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: kind of like I don't know when this is really

1108
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 4: going to be over, Like I couldn't see the ending,

1109
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 4: and so that put me in a sad place, and

1110
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 4: being Sean's wife, I hate being that, like downer because

1111
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 4: he's mister Happy, so it feels like, oh, oh, I'm

1112
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 4: being too sad for him, and he actually lost someone

1113
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 4: really close to him. So then I had guilt about

1114
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 4: being so down because he's the one that lost someone

1115
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 4: really close to him, you know what I mean. So

1116
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 4: it was like, Michelle, you got to pick yourself up

1117
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 4: to be there for yourself and for your kids and

1118
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 4: for your partner. So then I started to meditate. I

1119
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 4: did the Abundance meditation. I started to journal more. I

1120
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 4: had to like look outside of myself to get some

1121
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 4: kind of you know what I mean, some kind of

1122
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 4: hope or just out of the slump. And so what

1123
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 4: happened after the minus meditation I like to relate to

1124
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 4: minds meditation. We got we got the thing from Bill Gates.

1125
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 6: We got to do well before that. So so that

1126
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 6: was October.

1127
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 7: So before that, the summer was ending, and I was like,

1128
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 7: you know, Michelle, obviously it's you know, it's gonna get cold.

1129
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 7: We can't continue to have classes. We need a studio.

1130
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 7: The thing was, how do we get a.

1131
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 4: Studio and how does the bank account because.

1132
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 7: The way our bank account is, I don't know, I

1133
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 7: don't know if that's gonna work.

1134
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 6: But you don't, you know.

1135
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 7: It's like we always say, you don't have to know

1136
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 7: the how, you just got to know what you want.

1137
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 7: And so I went online every single day. I was

1138
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 7: online for hours, right hours, looking at places. I was like, okay, this,

1139
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 7: you know, because for us, a studio is very specific.

1140
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 7: You know, we need we need a lot, we need

1141
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:20,200
Speaker 7: super high ceilings, we need, you know, the space to

1142
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:21,959
Speaker 7: be a certain side. It's like it's just a whole

1143
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 7: lot because and then the floors, we can't turn on

1144
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 7: any floor, so it's just it's a whole lot.

1145
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 4: And while he's looking for the studio, mind you, this

1146
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 4: is what I learned after being with him for twelve years.

1147
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 4: We call Sean the visionary. Sometimes he sees things and

1148
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, what the mother, what are you talking about?

1149
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 4: How are we gonna get a studio? What are you

1150
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 4: talking about? But I learned, being his partner, not to

1151
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 4: do that anymore because some of the things he sees

1152
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 4: has come into fruition. Even when I didn't believe.

1153
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 6: Right, just let me go, let me go. Put me in.

1154
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 4: Coach's writing in my diary like my husband is crazy,

1155
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 4: But bab I got you back like the Jackie looking

1156
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 4: at a studio. Okay, we're gonna get it. So we're

1157
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 4: gonna get it.

1158
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 7: So we actually looked at maybe two other studios before

1159
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 7: this one actually went around the corner from where we

1160
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 7: are now, and then I came to this studio that

1161
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 7: we're at now by myself. The minute I walked in,

1162
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 7: I said, Oh, this is it, and Michelle is gonna

1163
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 7: like it. Now that's very important because Michelle and I

1164
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 7: we don't agree on a lot of things.

1165
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 4: No we don't.

1166
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 6: I mean we we agree on a lot. We agree

1167
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 6: on most things, but there are there are things like

1168
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 6: a studio.

1169
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 4: And he's still a Leo, so he's stubborn.

1170
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, but we're both Leo's so I.

1171
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 2: Know she didn't know, he said, tried it because we're

1172
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: both the same, right.

1173
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 7: So I walked into the studio. I was like, Oh,

1174
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 7: Michelle is gonna love it. I literally I drove home,

1175
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 7: picked up I called that s Michelle. I found a studio.

1176
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 7: I know you're gonna like it. Here's the price, this

1177
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 7: is what it is. I'm coming to get you. I

1178
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 7: got Michelle. She walked into the studio. She was like,

1179
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 7: that's it.

1180
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 6: We're both like immediately.

1181
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,919
Speaker 4: And here's here's where faith comes in, because after doing

1182
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 4: the medicale sometimes meditations and journalis helps you see the

1183
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,760
Speaker 4: clear picture. Like if you're still living, there's always hoping,

1184
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And sometime if you let

1185
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 4: things get you down, you'll start to lose that perspective.

1186
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: So you got to straighten yourself out. So I was

1187
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 4: starting to have faith again, you know what I mean.

1188
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 4: And so we looked at the studio. We met the

1189
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 4: landlord and this is crazy stuff. We had looked at

1190
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 4: some hood spots, you know what I'm saying, because we

1191
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 4: were just looking and they was asking for every bit

1192
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 4: of paperwork. I'm talking about what I did when I

1193
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 4: was two, you know, like just paper, paper, paper, paper, right,

1194
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 4: So we made this amazing landlord and he was like,

1195
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 4: what's your name? Did he ask for? I don't even know?

1196
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 4: Like you guys, It's like, okay, well we like you,

1197
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: all right, let's sign the papers.

1198
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 7: He didn't look at any financial no, no financials.

1199
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: Is this when you guys did that? I know you

1200
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 3: did a kickstart because I canute.

1201
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, we're gonna oh, we're about to mention that.

1202
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, old, look we.

1203
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 4: Inspire by Molly Moore, because I was like, listen a

1204
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 4: bunch of mesdag And I even asked you I had

1205
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 4: d m D and asked you were like, because I

1206
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 4: knew you stuck. You don't do nothing by the fly,

1207
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 4: you know.

1208
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. I had study for like three months before.

1209
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 4: When you said that, I was like, Sean, we have

1210
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 4: to like, well, because Sean didn't want to do a

1211
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 4: kickstock Well.

1212
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 7: The thing was so my cousin he's a filmmaker and

1213
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 7: he does like go fund me all the time.

1214
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 6: And I thought about it, but I was like, nah,

1215
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 6: I can't do it. I don't. I don't have it

1216
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 6: in me to ask people. I can't. I can't. I

1217
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 6: can't do it.

1218
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 7: And it's stuff talking about it. There's nothing wrong with me,

1219
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 7: but it's it's nothing. I'm sorry, it's nothing wrong with it.

1220
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 7: It's just that with anything in life. I always try

1221
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 7: to find a way to figure it out. Like I'm like,

1222
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 7: all right, if we don't have it, let me out

1223
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 7: a way to do it.

1224
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 6: But that was the way to do it.

1225
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 4: And this is where his wife comes in. His wife

1226
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 4: said all right, babe, okay, you got to you got

1227
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 4: to be a little more realistic, less ask our community.

1228
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? A pandemic happened. It's not

1229
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 4: like we were irresponsible, you know what I mean? Like

1230
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 4: it's it's different just to just.

1231
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: To jump in really quick. It's hurt y'all. Y'all are

1232
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: like a conversational double dutch. And I was just like

1233
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: when when am I supposed to anyway?

1234
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:29,320
Speaker 4: But y'all mention change?

1235
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: So the kickstarter, y'all did this to raise money for

1236
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: the business.

1237
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1238
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: Is that right?

1239
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:34,560
Speaker 4: Okay?

1240
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: So ready question I have I so I want to

1241
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 1: know about the kickstarter, but I also want to know

1242
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: we're y'all able to get any of the government fundings.

1243
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: I know there was so much drama and confusion for

1244
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: small business owners around the paycheck Protection Program and the

1245
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,600
Speaker 1: Economic Disaster Relief program. Did any of that come in

1246
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: handy for y'all? Or was it immediately that y'all knew

1247
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: you had to, you know, do a kickstarter to get

1248
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: money your own.

1249
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: We filled out every of those yo, Michelle, check this out?

1250
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 4: Oh check this out? Yo? No no, no, no, not

1251
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: you guys, No, no, no, really, any of them and

1252
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 4: we filled out how many you? Oh my god, we

1253
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 4: didn't get none of them. So we had gotten the

1254
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:29,480
Speaker 4: space and he everything worked out, the paperwork, everything was perfect,

1255
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:34,320
Speaker 4: but mind you, it was just a space. So we

1256
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 4: needed we needed more to make the space double Dutch aerobics,

1257
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And so that's when at

1258
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 4: first Sean was saying no, and I was like, let's

1259
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 4: let's do this, and finally he said yes. And then

1260
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,439
Speaker 4: to me he put together the best video. I thought

1261
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 4: it was fabulous, so no, it was good. So he

1262
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: put together a video and it made us very emotional

1263
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 4: because watching people support us when we know that everyone

1264
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 4: was having a hard time. Goodness, am I just like

1265
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 4: the but needs to said Tiffany, you Tiffany right? We right,

1266
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 4: We studied, so showing us up, we started to watch

1267
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 4: all the videos.

1268
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 6: I watched a thousand videos.

1269
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: How long should it be? How much you asked for?

1270
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 4: We looked at zillions of zillions of Kickstarter campaigns.

1271
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 6: Like one, what should what shouldn't be in it? You

1272
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 6: know what you.

1273
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 4: Should put in your bio? It took us. We pulled

1274
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 4: all nighters. We pulled all nighters doing it, and then

1275
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 4: we put it up and we prayed and we send

1276
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 4: it out to our We send it out to people,

1277
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 4: and it was very emotional because he didn't expect as

1278
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 4: much love as we got, and it was like, oh,

1279
01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 4: people really care about us.

1280
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 7: I mean, I mean, like, oh my god, I mean

1281
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 7: even the people who never met us before ever in

1282
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 7: light right, they were donating to our kickstarter and I

1283
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 7: was just it really was emotional.

1284
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,440
Speaker 4: It really was emotional at that moment.

1285
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: Especially it sounds like Sean, you had a little bit

1286
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: of trouble getting over having to ask for help in

1287
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: the first place.

1288
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1289
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: Just I relate to that in a big way. And

1290
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: I think it's that moment when you you're you're just afraid

1291
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: that it might it might not happen, and it's it's

1292
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: it must be humbling when you finally get that, when

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Speaker 1: you see that you will get it in return, you

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Speaker 1: know what you've been giving for so long.

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Speaker 2: So what was it?

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Speaker 3: What was the outcome did you guys make I mean,

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Speaker 3: I know you made it, but like much more than

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Speaker 3: you asked for?

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Speaker 4: What was we doubles?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, so you initially we asked for ten and then

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Speaker 7: what happened twenty? Yeah, we got twenty I think it

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Speaker 7: was twenty one thousand over twenty one twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Four hundred dollars. I'm on the page right now.

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Speaker 4: From two hundred and eighty five.

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Speaker 1: If two and eighty five beckers. That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: That was so much.

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Speaker 1: So that gave you the money that you needed to

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Speaker 1: put up the big mirror, get the ropes like all

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Speaker 1: this stuff.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yes, and.

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Speaker 1: The mirrors are not those mirrors are not cheap.

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Speaker 4: I was looking for one.

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Speaker 1: I was looking just for like a tiny one for

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Speaker 1: my little peloton, you know, nook, and uh yeah, it

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Speaker 1: was thousands of dollars.

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Speaker 4: And yes, And what's so fun is so we opened

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Speaker 4: in September and we weren't gonna wait, so we did

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Speaker 4: the studio because hello, the pandemic still knocked us out right,

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Speaker 4: So we started with the studio white, and we used

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Speaker 4: to say, so this is where the mirror is gonna be.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we would tell we would tell us face the

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Speaker 7: imaginary mirror.

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Speaker 4: And so what's so fun is that they got to

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Speaker 4: watch us grow from like a white studio to what

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Speaker 4: the studio is now. And it's still and it's still growing,

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Speaker 4: like we just got our nice little bitch. So it's

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Speaker 4: so cute, y'all. You know, the studio was painting. Now

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Speaker 4: we got the words up, we got signs, we got

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Speaker 4: our desks, you know what I mean. So it's fun

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Speaker 4: because when they come and they're like, oh, yes, oh

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Speaker 4: you got that. So they get to actually watch us

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Speaker 4: and just the process.

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Speaker 7: Just to watch, like you know, new people come in

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Speaker 7: and they're blown away by the studio. They really love

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Speaker 7: the studio because outside of teaching our classes, we rent

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Speaker 7: out our studio.

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Speaker 6: That's smart to other people. They love this studio.

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Speaker 7: They love it and so and that and that, and

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Speaker 7: that's important to us because I felt like we had

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Speaker 7: a responsibility. You know, you guys gave us twenty one

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Speaker 7: thousand dollars. No, this is going to be the best

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Speaker 7: studio in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you know, because.

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Speaker 4: People trusted you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, let me ask this, what is the

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Speaker 3: what is your like ten twenty year plan, like what

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Speaker 3: you know, what's your big bull dream for Double Dutcho.

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Speaker 2: But what can you see it becoming?

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Speaker 7: Well, so there are a couple of things, right, we

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Speaker 7: definitely want other studios in other cities. So we already

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Speaker 7: have the cities in mind that we that we want,

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Speaker 7: you know, Double Cherobics, like you know, Chicago and DC.

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Speaker 7: And then also to to grow out, like to to

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Speaker 7: certify more people across the country.

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Speaker 4: So that Double Dutch robis is accessible in every state.

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Speaker 4: So it's not just you don't have to travel to

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Speaker 4: get to us, right or to get to a Double

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Speaker 4: Dutch arobics class. It's like as available as spin classes

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Speaker 4: or you know what I mean.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so just really create like as far as

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Speaker 7: like certification too. I just wanted to add that Double

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Speaker 7: Dutch aerobics is a formatic class, right, so it's kind

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Speaker 7: of like uh billgrim yoga with the twenty six twenty

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Speaker 7: six postures.

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Speaker 6: So there's like eleven steps to our program.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that we do every single day, every single class,

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Speaker 7: and so that's what we teach in our certification. And

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Speaker 7: so basically, like Michelle said, if you're in DC, the

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Speaker 7: class is going to be exactly like the class in

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Speaker 7: New York or Atlanta or Detroit, you know some of

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Speaker 7: the places where we want Double 't Aerobics to be.

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Speaker 7: And so that's the goal to to certify more people.

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Speaker 4: And it's funny, you know, this whole subject was like

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Speaker 4: how did we survivedurund our pandemic and we're still recovering

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Speaker 4: from the pandemic. Right, so where, But it feels like

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Speaker 4: the other side is is we're on the you know,

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Speaker 4: we're getting over the hump, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: And now it's like when I think about when I

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Speaker 4: was thinking, oh my god, this is over, I think

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Speaker 4: the thing that got us through is that we kept

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Speaker 4: hope and that we kept moving. So now on the

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Speaker 4: other side, I feel like we're going to be even

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Speaker 4: bigger than we were because we have a space now

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Speaker 4: that gives us access to do more than we were

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Speaker 4: doing in the beginning of twenty twenty. And it's like

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Speaker 4: that was our biggest year, but now through the sadness

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Speaker 4: and through all the you know, the knockout that happened,

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Speaker 4: we're gonna be bigger. On the other side of it

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Speaker 4: was we kept pushing through.

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Speaker 7: And then also just simply getting through a pandemic being

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Speaker 7: a fitness brand makes you a whole lot stronger, right,

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Speaker 7: so everything else seems like a breeze.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you got through a pandemic.

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Speaker 7: And then you know, at the top of the year,

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Speaker 7: Michelle gets a commercial, right, oh I did.

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Speaker 4: Then this meditation again, so he gets matter because I'd

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Speaker 4: be like I told you to bringing magic right.

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Speaker 3: Where where can we find this meditation, It's like they

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Speaker 3: know what's the cra prayer to get you a run?

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01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:52,360
Speaker 4: So zpop Chopra's abundance meditation comes at you sow. The

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Speaker 4: first time we did it, we got a random call. First,

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Speaker 4: Seawan said, no, we're supposed to a favor for We're

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Speaker 4: supposed to a favor for somebody. He was like, mich,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we could film it yet. Right,

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Speaker 4: we're supposed to film some audition video. We was like, okay,

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Speaker 4: we'll film it. We filmed. We didn't know what it

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Speaker 4: was for.

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Speaker 6: We had no idea.

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Speaker 4: What idea? Then they're like, you're chosen, wait, chosen for?

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Speaker 4: What what do you mean what?

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Speaker 6: They just like, we didn't, we didn't know what it

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Speaker 6: was for.

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Speaker 4: Then they were like, we gotta fly you to New York.

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Speaker 4: I said'm not bringing these to here to New York.

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Speaker 4: I'm tired. We're not going to So then they said, okay,

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Speaker 4: well we'll come to you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what and you still don't know who's coming?

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01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 4: And we still don't know.

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Speaker 6: Is the question? Sorry?

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, we didn't know who coming.

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Speaker 3: So when you said we're not going to New York,

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Speaker 3: they still didn't tell you who was coming.

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Speaker 2: No, like what it was for.

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Speaker 4: Okay, wow, because we had to we have we have

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Speaker 4: a fort well he was three at the time for

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Speaker 4: three year old and uh.

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Speaker 7: You see like that were production if you if when

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Speaker 7: you when you're auditioned it for like television shows and movies,

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Speaker 7: you never really know like the real title of the

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Speaker 7: movie because they probably don't even yet.

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Speaker 6: But so yeah, that's that, that's what was happening.

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Speaker 4: That's what was happen.

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Speaker 6: You didn't know what we were auditioning.

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Speaker 4: What we were auditioning for, and so they said, we'll

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Speaker 4: come to you. So it was okay, well, we gotta deal.

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Speaker 4: And then we didn't find out who it was a

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Speaker 4: couple of days before the shoot. And so what happened

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Speaker 4: was called it was called meal time conversations. Uh. Bill

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Speaker 4: Gates was interviewing families to see how they were over

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Speaker 4: meal time. So we ended up having a meal with

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Speaker 4: my parents. They filmed it in their house and then

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Speaker 4: they just told our story of the pandemic and they

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Speaker 4: paid us, which helped, right, And it was so random.

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Speaker 2: It was with you had like virtual dinner with Bill Gates.

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Speaker 4: No, No, we filmed, they filmed and it was for

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Speaker 4: their their foundation, like it was they did. It was

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Speaker 4: really interesting the families around the world.

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Speaker 7: So we represented the United States, we represented wow here

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Speaker 7: uh huh. And so they had Yeah, they have people,

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Speaker 7: you know, from families from other countries, and everybody told

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Speaker 7: their story.

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01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, from the pandemic, from the pandemic.

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Speaker 1: Yes, is this y'all the Walker and Clark families.

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,160
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, cute.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you know I'm here on the Googles just in

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Speaker 1: the background, getting on the links ready, Well, just to

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Speaker 1: round out the conversation, I wanted to just from my

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Speaker 1: you know, listening to y'all story, it's so inspirational and

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Speaker 1: I think so universal. You know, not everybody owns a

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Speaker 1: double Dutch studio. It sound like y'all are the only ones,

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Speaker 1: but everybody, you know, if you're still standing today, you

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01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,240
Speaker 1: had to make it through the pandemic in some way

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01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 1: or fashion. And the one thing that I've been like

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Speaker 1: hearing in y'all story is how many different streams of

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Speaker 1: income y'all have. Y'all have managed to squeeze out of

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Speaker 1: this business, which I think is so smart and probably

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Speaker 1: a huge reason why you've been able to survive. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm counting, like, I don't know how many, at least five.

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Speaker 1: It seems like you got the ropes that you're selling

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Speaker 1: the classes themselves, outdoor classes, teaching certifications. It sounds like

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Speaker 1: you're still on your grind when it comes to the

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Speaker 1: entertainment opportunities. That's I mean, can you talk about, you know,

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Speaker 1: beyond that diversification, just you know what, what reflecting besides

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Speaker 1: the abundance meditation on what made y'all such a resilient

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Speaker 1: business in the face of such a huge challenge.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think I think it was.

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01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 7: It was even before the pandemic, we knew the potential

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01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 7: of the business. I think that's what made us so

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01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 7: excited in the beginning because we were like, oh, we

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01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 7: could do this.

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Speaker 6: We could Oh we.

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01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 7: Could teach after school programs and you know, summer camps.

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Speaker 7: Oh man, we could do team building events, we could

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Speaker 7: do corporate events. Like we just kept going and going

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Speaker 7: and there were so many possibilities. And then even during class,

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Speaker 7: like after class, people will come to us with ideas, right,

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01:11:54,479 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 7: they're like, you know what, you guys should That happens

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01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 7: all the time. And when you talk about like stream

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Speaker 7: of revenue, right, it's like this. It's a good problem.

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01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:11,160
Speaker 7: But there's so many different avenues we can take with

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Speaker 7: double Dutch aerobics.

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Speaker 4: And we even started two things we also did this year.

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Speaker 4: We got pregnant. I don't know how that happened, but

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Speaker 4: we got pregnant maybe.

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Speaker 1: Number three yeah, wow, oh my goodness, congratulations.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. So we actually got uh commercial, the Apple commercial.

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Speaker 4: That was another source. Now, something that we do too

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Speaker 4: is so you ever see big long lines and people

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Speaker 4: they're not doing anything, but it's just on their phones.

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Speaker 4: So Slutty began was having a what was it. It

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01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,080
Speaker 4: wasn't a grand opening, it was an event. They were

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Speaker 4: given out free yeah, someone sponsored her, and they were

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01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 4: given out free burgers during the pandemic to everybody. So

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Speaker 4: all you had to do was get online. The line

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01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 4: was eight million years long, and so Sean was like,

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01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 4: let's go and turn and so we end up turning

1508
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 4: there meeting everybody, and it's just like we realize how

1509
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 4: much joy even in just all those environments, how much

1510
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 4: joy because we can teach anyone in less than a minute,

1511
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 4: how much joy that brings everywhere. And what was cool

1512
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 4: about that is Pinky got to see us do that

1513
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 4: and then she recently referred us for the Shakeshack event

1514
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 4: and it was a success. They are meaning sometimes we

1515
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 4: see things like at grand openings that whatever people are

1516
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 4: just I guess standing just gathered is also good to

1517
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 4: have because it allows people to a communicate while they're standing.

1518
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 4: So people are they start talking, right, we start it's just.

1519
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, so yeah, I mean and so yeah, just just

1520
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 7: going back to basically, we knew before the potential businessiness

1521
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:08,720
Speaker 7: had yes, and so when it was time to activate it, right,

1522
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 7: you know, I eat the pandemic, we were like, all right,

1523
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 7: so now we could do this.

1524
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 6: Oh we can't we can't teach out.

1525
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 7: I mean, we can't teach at an event, but we

1526
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 7: could sell ropes because people at home, you know, we

1527
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 7: could sell I mean the ropes were flying off the shelf.

1528
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 6: Yes, you know. So it was like, all right, let

1529
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 6: me learn the stock market.

1530
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 7: Like we just we just I don't know, we just

1531
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 7: knew what we can do, and we just, like I said,

1532
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 7: we just activated it.

1533
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 6: That's you know, that's what we did.

1534
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 4: And then also something that Sean and I do, we're

1535
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 4: constantly looking for inspiration, Like even Tiffany, I always watch

1536
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 4: your lives and you're you're you're so inspirational or just

1537
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 4: how even like I was just telling my mother how

1538
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 4: you said you had to go back home and you

1539
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 4: were in your middle middle school room and you were like,

1540
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,479
Speaker 4: this is not you know what I mean, I have

1541
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:06,679
Speaker 4: more money when I was in middle school. Meaning even

1542
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 4: in a down time. It's just like what I realized

1543
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:13,200
Speaker 4: with people who are successful is it's not the environment

1544
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 4: or it's not what happens to them, it's who they are.

1545
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,120
Speaker 4: Right So even through going through that, you found your

1546
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 4: way out of it and to make success. And if

1547
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 4: you hear, we constantly watch people's success stories because the

1548
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 4: one thing that's always true is that they're successful. Right

1549
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 4: So they may have a time of being down, but

1550
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:39,040
Speaker 4: it's like that can't define you. You have to still

1551
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:41,759
Speaker 4: It's like a winner always wins.

1552
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 6: I do know you said it. So it's it's the person.

1553
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 7: It's like if you took all the Bill Gates money today,

1554
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 7: he would make a billion dollars again next month, yes,

1555
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 7: because he just he can do it. Same thing with TIV.

1556
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 7: You know, if if we if we took all your

1557
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:00,400
Speaker 7: money today right right right now, don't make it.

1558
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 4: Don't make her.

1559
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,559
Speaker 7: Today you you now have the tools to get it

1560
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,880
Speaker 7: right back to you. It's yeah, Michelle and I we

1561
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 7: talk about that. We talk about this all the time. Actually,

1562
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 7: it's you, it's the person.

1563
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 4: And it's the mortality, right. So that's why I was biggest.

1564
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 4: My biggest thing is it's not only the meditation, but

1565
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 4: it's making sure that while bad things happen, I still

1566
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 4: have to be up, you know what I mean, because.

1567
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 7: You can't you can't control the events that happened in

1568
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:29,719
Speaker 7: your life.

1569
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 4: You can and control the way you.

1570
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 6: Deal with it. And so that's that's the biggest part

1571
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 6: of it. That's that's what you're saying.

1572
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 4: It's being resourceful so that we can The reason why

1573
01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 4: we can make double ut your role bits successful is

1574
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 4: because our goal is to become resourceful, you know what

1575
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 4: I mean. The reason the reason you can make budgeting

1576
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 4: so you know what I mean, the budgetista, is because

1577
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 4: you are a resourceful person. And so once you are resourceful,

1578
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:04,519
Speaker 4: you can turn almost anything you love into success. You understand.

1579
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I always think that, Like, like the weekend

1580
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 3: before last night, told my sister come drive with me

1581
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 3: through some of these fancy neighborhoods where every house is

1582
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 3: a million dollars plus, I said, because within five years

1583
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 3: I'll be in one of these. Yeah, and you know,

1584
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 3: I mean like I could be in one now, but

1585
01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 3: I don't want a mortgage. I'm talking about in it

1586
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 3: like here's the money boom. It's nothing, you know. And

1587
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 3: so because one of the things I learned, and this

1588
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 3: is just for anyone listening, is that it's like it's

1589
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,960
Speaker 3: this this thing that almost every like African parent tells

1590
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:43,080
Speaker 3: their kid when you bring home a B and you

1591
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 3: tell them that somebody else in class got an A.

1592
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 2: He said, Ah, so does she have two heads?

1593
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 3: Meaning like, if a's were being given, why don't you

1594
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,600
Speaker 3: have one? The only explanation that you could have for

1595
01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,040
Speaker 3: not getting an A when someone else is able to

1596
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 3: get a is that person must have two heads, therefore

1597
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 3: two brains.

1598
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 2: Therefore, okay, she got you on that.

1599
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 3: But so I drive, I drive through those neighborhoods because

1600
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 3: I am resetting my expectation of like, yo, there's not

1601
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 3: one house here, two house. There's like fifty houses in

1602
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:20,000
Speaker 3: just this one neighborhood, and then another fifty another neighborhood another,

1603
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 3: meaning yo, there are people who make enough to make

1604
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,439
Speaker 3: this life happen? What about you? What's so special about them?

1605
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,680
Speaker 3: What is so special? And this is nothing exactly and

1606
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 3: it's not a little bit of people were talking about

1607
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 3: just this one neighborhood here, and then you go another

1608
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 3: town over, and then another town in another state and

1609
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 3: another There are so many people that are successful.

1610
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,280
Speaker 2: Why not you do they have two heads? No? No,

1611
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: they figured it out. Now you got to do that

1612
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 2: to your children. They'd be like, Sean Junior is gonna

1613
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 2: be like, I gotta b a b.

1614
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 3: Would anybody get a do that have two head?

1615
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:57,240
Speaker 6: For?

1616
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 3: It's a very African thing to say, But I say

1617
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: that to say that basically that you are human. Therefore

1618
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 3: what is accessible to one human is there is great

1619
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:09,880
Speaker 3: potential for it to also be accessible to you. And

1620
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 3: we all understand that there are limitations and racism and

1621
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 3: and and sexism, and we know that, but you know,

1622
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,679
Speaker 3: we also know that people find a way. And if

1623
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 3: one person has found a way, that is that is

1624
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 3: cause for for celebration because that means the way has

1625
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 3: been found.

1626
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: Ye you know you too can have access to that.

1627
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 3: So once you start to understand that, then there's nothing

1628
01:19:35,000 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 3: I mean, we're not talking about. You go into the

1629
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 3: moon for the first time. Those people have to figure

1630
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 3: it out from scratch. You know, we're not talking about

1631
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,080
Speaker 3: that like when people say, oh, I don't know how

1632
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:43,760
Speaker 3: to invest. I'm like, you know, people don't figured it

1633
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 3: out and wrote books and do YouTube videos about.

1634
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 4: It YouTube you know right now?

1635
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 2: Yes, like you know, you know, people have successful businesses.

1636
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:53,960
Speaker 3: You know, people have podcasts at work and you know,

1637
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:55,960
Speaker 3: so there are folks that have figured it out. And

1638
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,320
Speaker 3: so I'm so glad that you came on today because

1639
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 3: it's I think it's important for our audience to hear

1640
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 3: that there are so many ways to express success in business.

1641
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure people thought a business based upon

1642
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 3: double Dutch, how's that gonna work? And now you're over

1643
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 3: here laying it it can work, you know, like a

1644
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 3: business based upon budgeting what and now here we are

1645
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 3: And so like, I hope those of you who are

1646
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 3: you know, BA fan that's listening you get to see

1647
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 3: that it is possible to grow a business from just

1648
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 3: about any idea. It's possible to do so while still

1649
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 3: having this amazing family. You hear the joy they have

1650
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 3: speaking with each other and connecting and staying connected. It

1651
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 3: is possible to do so with children, because how old

1652
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:42,639
Speaker 3: is your oldest baby?

1653
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 4: Four?

1654
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:46,120
Speaker 2: Five four child? Cheez?

1655
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 3: You know, like cause I know people are like, well,

1656
01:20:47,560 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 3: I got a baby, Okay, you know it is possible

1657
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 3: to do those things.

1658
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it's easy, because I know it's

1659
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: not easy. No, you know, we're talking about possible. I'm

1660
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,000
Speaker 2: talking about possible, but not easy.

1661
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, So we just want to thank you for,

1662
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:05,080
Speaker 3: like you know, illustrating like even the hard like you

1663
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 3: still here to join you guys's voice.

1664
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 2: I love that that, Like you know, these lessons taught you.

1665
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 3: Some valuable lessons that you learned to be resourceful, just

1666
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 3: like as you said, Michelle, and you learned that like

1667
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 3: to pivot.

1668
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 2: I think that was a huge lesson learned here.

1669
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 3: And you learn to also that if you really believe

1670
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 3: in your idea, you'll find a way and it doesn't

1671
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 3: mean that you might not take a step back.

1672
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 2: And also too, you learn to ask for help.

1673
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so all those things combined, you know, and

1674
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 3: consistency and not giving up, you know, resulting where you

1675
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 3: are now and now that we're coming out on the

1676
01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 3: other side, it's only bigger, bigger and better for y'all.

1677
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 2: So I'm excited for.

1678
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 4: Y'all, and that's consistency. I just want to stay warm.

1679
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,799
Speaker 4: Thing just as a reminder, is there when we first started,

1680
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 4: we had empty classes and Sean would look at me

1681
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 4: and be like, because I'd be like, maybe it's not going.

1682
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,840
Speaker 6: To work, and I would be like, isn't this amazing?

1683
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,240
Speaker 6: Isn't this an amazing idea? This is gonna work?

1684
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 7: Because the thing is, I realized that it's not because

1685
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 7: we didn't have a good idea. It's just we're not

1686
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,880
Speaker 7: promoting it right, So we just have to fix it.

1687
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,040
Speaker 3: I was going to call that illustrating your Oprah. Yeah,

1688
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 3: but for real, when I used to like, is it.

1689
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:17,280
Speaker 4: A good idea?

1690
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I was like, no, no, this is a

1691
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 3: good idea. If someone doesn't want to pay me, I

1692
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 3: have not illustrated my Oprah. Meaning if Oprah, if we've

1693
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,800
Speaker 3: got a call right now and Oprah said I will

1694
01:22:28,840 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 3: do a one on one with y'all, but I need

1695
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,599
Speaker 3: ten thousand dollars. You have ten ten hours to come

1696
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 3: up with it. We will come up with that money

1697
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 3: so fast because we're like child.

1698
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:39,520
Speaker 2: Che is Oprah.

1699
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 3: Because Oprah's value is so clear that we will find

1700
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 3: the funds. And so if someone's not willing to pay

1701
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:52,160
Speaker 3: me just yet, I have not illustrated my value, and

1702
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,200
Speaker 3: definitely that they will find the funds because now I've

1703
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 3: illustrated my oprah. So when I tell somebody, oh no, no, no,

1704
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:01,479
Speaker 3: my keynote is forty thousand, they find the funds, you know.

1705
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 2: And so I think that.

1706
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 3: Too, because it's very easy to say, well, my idea

1707
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 3: is not good or it's not the right market or time.

1708
01:23:06,880 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 3: You know, it's likely you just have not illustrated your

1709
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 3: open and that's.

1710
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,959
Speaker 6: Okay, yes it is, that's right.

1711
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,559
Speaker 4: Yes, you know exactly.

1712
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 2: Just got to figure it out.

1713
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:19,760
Speaker 3: How do you make it that your value is so

1714
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 3: clear that people will find the fund just to have you.

1715
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 6: In the room, because it took took it took them

1716
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:27,640
Speaker 6: a little while to respect us.

1717
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 4: I got cursed out charging people for double Dutch. This

1718
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 4: man cursed me out. He wanted us to come out

1719
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 4: to his event. Oh he cursed me out. What is

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Speaker 4: that I'm taking advantage? I said, certain, you can have

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01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 4: ropes there. I didn't say you couldn't have rope if

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01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 4: you want me to physically show up and show my expertise.

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01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 4: If you want me and my husband to show up

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01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,920
Speaker 4: for a specific time and date and to literally do

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01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 4: what we do, you have to pay us. I didn't

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01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 4: exclude you from Double You want us there because you

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01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 4: saw what we do.

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Speaker 7: And I was Michelle was a little bothered by him,

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01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:14,640
Speaker 7: but but I was upset that she was upset.

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Speaker 6: I was thinking, why why are you letting this stranger

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01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 6: get you so upset? We know, we know our worst,

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01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 6: our worst, we know our value, and.

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Speaker 4: That's It's like you think Kevin Hard to come and

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01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 4: tell jokes, but jokes at the party stops. You want

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01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 4: Kevin Hart to come and tell you jokes.

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Speaker 6: But the thing is, though, like, like, I get it.

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01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 7: I get why because you know, Double Dutch has been

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01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,160
Speaker 7: free for one hundred years.

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01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 6: You know, people you.

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01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 7: Know stopped the telephone truck, got the wires, you know,

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01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 7: and jumped outside to the till the street lights came on.

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01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 6: I get it.

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01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:54,000
Speaker 4: But I'm a world champion.

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01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:57,120
Speaker 7: But the thing is, when Michelle and I come to

1745
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 7: your event, if there's a million people at your event,

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01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 7: a million people will be jumping.

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01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 6: Which is different, you know.

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01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,160
Speaker 7: So it's like we because we could teach anybody how

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01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 7: to jump, right so that's the thing. So like, if

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01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 7: you know, if you want our expertise, then you have

1751
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,240
Speaker 7: to pay us. But it's it was really simple for me.

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01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:14,879
Speaker 7: I couldn't even understand why because.

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Speaker 3: It's hard because you know, you feel you don't want

1754
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:20,040
Speaker 3: to feel like, wow, am I what if that say

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01:25:20,080 --> 01:25:20,479
Speaker 3: about me?

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01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 2: You know, we tend to internal life with people. But

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01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 2: it's not.

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01:25:23,320 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 3: It just means I'm okay now because I you know,

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01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 3: it took me a while too, because Mitchelle I would

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01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 3: have cried like.

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01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, am I right?

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01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 3: Because mean, if they could google budgeting, I said, well

1763
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 3: then why don't they like even now what? It took

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01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 3: me a whild girl, It's like year twelve for me.

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01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:40,679
Speaker 3: I not bothered.

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01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:43,200
Speaker 3: When someone hits me back and says that's too expensive,

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01:25:43,479 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, okay, okay for you because I just

1769
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 3: got paid that last week. But okay, and that's okay.

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01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:51,040
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. I give a lot away for free.

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Speaker 2: You could.

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01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:55,240
Speaker 3: I do lives, I have social posts, we've got emails,

1773
01:25:55,280 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 3: We've got you can. You can partake in all the

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01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 3: free because I do believe in, you know, providing service

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01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 3: to my community.

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01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 2: But no if you're wanting, you know.

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01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:08,000
Speaker 3: A specific service that I charged for, that's what the cost.

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01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:09,799
Speaker 3: And if you don't have the budget, and that's okay,

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01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 3: it just me you have to find somebody that fits

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01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,920
Speaker 3: within that budget. Because it's so funny when you know,

1781
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,720
Speaker 3: when you first start, nobody wants to you know, like

1782
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:19,720
Speaker 3: nobody wants to take you on the moment you blow up.

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01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 2: Now you want to you want to pay me.

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01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 3: The first starting budget, like you you called me for

1785
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,719
Speaker 3: a reason, right, you know, you hit me up because

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01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 3: you saw the New York Times best SELLI did you

1787
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 3: think that was that?

1788
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,719
Speaker 2: Did you think that was gonna come for nothing?

1789
01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, but we can talk for everybody, Mandy, any

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01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 3: any final things you want to see with our Yes, this.

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Speaker 1: Is just thank you. Yeah, thirty minutes, say go, I

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01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: bought the ropes. I can't wait, and I'm gonna go.

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01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: I didn't even not I didn't even know double dutch

1794
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: was a thing you could become a world champion and

1795
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:57,519
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's a sport. I love that. Yeah. So

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01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 1: thank y'all, thank you, thank you so much for sharing

1797
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: your story and sharing your energy and your your truth

1798
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,320
Speaker 1: because y'all were honest about the ups and downs, and

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01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 1: we appreciate that. I think our I hope our audience

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Speaker 1: loves this conversation as much as as much as I did.

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Speaker 6: I thank you, oh, thank you people.

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01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:17,120
Speaker 1: Find y'all ware. Now, where's the best place to find

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01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: everything people need to know about Double Dutch?

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01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 4: Find on Instagram, Double Dutch Aerobics, Facebook, Double Dutch Aerobics.

1805
01:27:24,800 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 4: If you forget everything, you can google Double Dutch Aerobics

1806
01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 4: and find us everywhere.

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01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: I got that SEO game on point. Very good to know. Yes, well,

1808
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,080
Speaker 1: thank y'all so so much. We can't wait to hear

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01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: more from Double Dutch Aerobics. Thank y'all, Sean and Michelle

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01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: for joining us.

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01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,640
Speaker 6: Thank you really appreciate it.

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01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Thank you amazing. I feel so warm and fuzzy. Happy holidays.

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Speaker 1: BA fan, thank you for joining us as we looked

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01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,840
Speaker 1: back at some of our favorite Brown Ambition conversations from

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Speaker 1: the past year. Check back in with as soon as

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Speaker 1: we take on a brand new year and bring you

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Speaker 1: everything you need to know so you can take control

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Speaker 1: of your financial and professional future on your own terms.