1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: If you're Cleveland right now, when you look at their 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: farm system, do you need to consider Kwan Class A 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: Santana moving them to try to get six or seven 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: young players to kind of rebuild this lineup. 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 2: Here we go. 6 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: It's JB. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: Jim Bowden, our resident GM, joining us right now on 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: FT JB. Good to see you, and you know how 9 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: it is. The draft happens, then the All Star Game 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 2: in the Derby happens, and then trade talk happens for 11 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 2: the next couple weeks. So let's officially crank open the door. 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: We'll be chatting with you more frequently over the next 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: couple weeks. And I would like to start with two 14 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: pretty big market teams that are making a push after 15 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: some disappointing seasons before this one, Cubs Blue Jays. I've 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: seen recent articles of yours point out how both teams 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: need some starting pitching. Can you elaborate on that for us? 18 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 2: And do you have any names in mind? 19 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 20 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: I do, And the Cubs and Jay aren't alone, right, 21 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: You got to put in there the Astros. You gotta 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: put in their Yankees and Red Sox as well, because 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: they're all going after the same starting pitching group. 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 3: That we all expect to be traded. 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: And so, yeah, the Cubs are all in Jed Hoyer, 26 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: their presidents on his free agent Walkier. 27 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: He's gonna do anything he can to win right now. 28 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: And the Blue Jays have been very clear with opposing 29 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: GMS that their goal is to add another starting pitcher. 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: And I think both teams are going to be aggressive. 31 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: So the market's kind of thin, right. Sandy al Contra 32 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: has fizzled enough in July that I don't think he 33 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: can make enough starts to get traded. 34 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: I don't think his value is going to go up. 35 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: And people that thought Freddy Peralt is going to be traded, No, 36 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: He's going to be pitching in a playoff game for Milwaukee. 37 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 3: And so, you know, I think some of the guys 38 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 3: that we thought were going to be traded are not 39 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: going to be. 40 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: So let's talk about another one in Zach Allen, who 41 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: has been so bad that his trade value is diminished 42 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: to the point of almost shocking. 43 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 3: Right, So who is going to get traded? Mitch Keller 44 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 3: or the Pirates? 45 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: He gone, right, Merrill Kelly, good chance he goes with Arizona. 46 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to get Edward Cabrera from Miami, but you 47 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: have to really overpay to get him. Everybody's waiting to 48 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: see if Kansas City continues to fall out of it 49 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: some more, because there is a feeling that maybe Seth 50 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: Lugo and or Michael Waka could get moved. If that happens, 51 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: people are waiting on the Angels to see if you 52 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: say Kakuchi is gonna get moved, will Sonny gray Wade 53 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: the no trade and Saint Louis end up at the 54 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: deadline trading him, And then the most obvious two other 55 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: guys that probably will get moved, Charlie Morton and Sigano 56 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: with the Baltimoreals. So those are the groups of pitchers 57 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: that these teams are chasing, and it's gonna be fun 58 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: to see. And I've said this before, the general manager 59 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: and team president in the last two weeks in July 60 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: are just as important as the star players because a 61 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: lot of times the moves they make or don't make 62 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: will have as much to do of who wins the 63 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: division or makes the playoffs and who doesn't. 64 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 4: Okay, a couple of things you just brought up in 65 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 4: that whole thing. First, I used to Hawk Harrelson is them, 66 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: so I give you credit for that. The sweaterers terrible, 67 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 4: but the Hawk harrelson ism kind of makes up for 68 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: the sweatshirt. 69 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 3: Sorry, just Son is the GM of USC agent. 70 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 4: Okay, I'll give you half a pass on that only 71 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 4: because I have a Reggie Bush side jersey hanging on 72 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 4: my wall. 73 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: So that's the pass. 74 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: Go. 75 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 4: But said Heisman, he lost and now he got it back, 76 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 4: so it's worth more now, So thank you. But you 77 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 4: mentioned some of these guys that are getting traded, How 78 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 4: how in depth? How deep are the Cubs and Jay's 79 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 4: willing to go for some of these guys that we're 80 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: not so sure are going to change their future and 81 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 4: get them to the World Series. So how heavily invested 82 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 4: will some of these teams go? 83 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 84 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean I think in the two teams you're mentioning specifically, 85 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: the Cubs continue to dangle Owen Cassie and Kevin olcntra, 86 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: so I think they're willing to trade one of those 87 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: two outfielders to get the starting pitcher. You know, they 88 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: do match up well with the Pittsburgh Pirates, who desperately 89 00:03:56,600 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: need offense. Cassie could be the starting left fielder for 90 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh for a long time. 91 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 3: You know, if they make that deal. 92 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: And you know, the Cubs are gonna try to make 93 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 1: a run at Kyle Tucker to bring him back. And 94 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: they also have all contra so they have a little 95 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: depth in the outfield if they trade Cassie. So you know, 96 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: I think that's about as far as the Cubs go. 97 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: And then I think in terms of the Blue Jays, 98 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: you know, the. 99 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: Gloves are off. I mean they're really open. 100 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: They're smelling that they can make the playoffs, they're smelling 101 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: that they can win. And so I think that in 102 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: terms of their farm system, especially knowing that again Mark 103 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: Chapara and Ross. 104 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: Atkins, their contracts are up. 105 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: I mean, if they can sit there and make the postseason, 106 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna get long term contracts. 107 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 3: They're gonna do whatever it takes. I'm just telling you 108 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: at the end of the day. 109 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, they're willing to trade their top prospects to 110 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: try to win. 111 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 3: Right now. 112 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 4: I like it. I like it. As a player, I won't. 113 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 4: I always one of my team to try to win, 114 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: So I like it. I like the Jays and everybody else. 115 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 4: Let's go Jay's Cubs. Whoever it is, let's go get 116 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 4: all in now. Teams that need reliever help, Tigers, Phillies 117 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 4: for sure. Is there any other teams out there and 118 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 4: what are their options for relievers? 119 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? Great question. The Mets. 120 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Phillies and Mets in the same division are 121 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: fighting for the relievers and to trade as well. 122 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: As you mentioned. 123 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: And by the way, when we talk about relievers, every 124 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: contending team wants to upgrade the relievers. 125 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: I was talking to the Astros today. 126 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 1: They want a reliever along along with a starter and 127 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: a left handed bat. 128 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: It's just what you do, as you guys know. 129 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: But the three teams we just mentioned, or you know, 130 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: especially the Tigers and Phillies, you know, they could go 131 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 1: huge here, right. 132 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: I don't think the Mets are gonna go huge. 133 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: They've got Daz that they're they're they're pretty solid back there, 134 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: but they're in the mix. 135 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: So who's gonna go? The Pirates are gonna. 136 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: Trade David Bednar and Dennis Santana likelihood they're gonna go. 137 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: So teams like the Tigers, the Phillies and Mets are 138 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: engaged with ben Cherrington. We all know Pittsburgh's needs. Again, 139 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: it's young hitters that are not arbitration eligible. 140 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: That they can control. 141 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 1: Ben Cherrington to save his job has to have a 142 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: good trade deadline, which means Bennar saying, hann of Calla, 143 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: they go maybe more. I keep hearing Emmanuel Classe's name, 144 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: and I think Cleveland's at the point now where they're 145 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: looking at their lineup. They're twenty six and run scored 146 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: twentieth in home runs, and they're feeling like, look, we 147 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: can put Kate Smith closing. 148 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,040 Speaker 3: Let's move on from Class A. 149 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: He's got an affordable contract, he's signed. We can do 150 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: well prospect wise, so you know, I think they can 151 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: move them, and teams like the Phillies and the Mets 152 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: and the Tigers, they have enough in their farm system 153 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: to make a deal. I think he more likely goes 154 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: to Philly or the Mets than the Tigers. I'm not 155 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: sure they're gonna do it trade them in their own 156 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 1: division unless they get overwhelmed. I also keep hearing about 157 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: the Twins relievers. They're not going to trade starter Joe Ryan, 158 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 1: but they'll listen on Duran and Jacks. That's kind of fascinating. 159 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: You've got the Nationals. They're gonna move Kyle Finn again. 160 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: Will be using to see what Mike de Bartolow does 161 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: as the interim GM over. 162 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 3: There there are some teams. 163 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,160 Speaker 1: That think there's a possibility that the Athletics this time 164 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: around will listen on Mason Miller. 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Let's hit position players 199 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 2: to JB. Whyer, we have you, So let's start with 200 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 2: third base. I know you recently talked about the Mariners 201 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: and a hole that they have, but also a team 202 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: like the Yankees has been brought up. They have a 203 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: very clear need for that position. Do you think there 204 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: will be a competition for someone like au Heneo Suarez 205 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: between those two and maybe one or two others. 206 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so let's let's start with Seattle. 207 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: So Seattle's looking for first base or third base, right, 208 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: But they do have Ben Williamson at third and anyone 209 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 1: that's been watch their games is loving his leather, right. 210 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a really good glove. So I 211 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: think their preference probably would be to ad the bad 212 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 1: at first base, not third base. So you know, they 213 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: do match up well with Arizona, right, because Arizona's got 214 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: Josh Naylor and you Anyo Swarrez. 215 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: If they sell, which is a big question, by the way, 216 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: but if. 217 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: They sell, I think the Mariners are more likely to 218 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: make a deal for Naylor than Suarez instead of having 219 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: a reunion with him. Swarez in the Yankees, swore as 220 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: in the Cubs, and swore as in the Brewers, the 221 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: three teams that I keep hearing if they were to 222 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: move them. Now, you know, when I when I talked 223 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: to Mike cays and on my radio show a couple 224 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, he made very clear to me he's 225 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: buying he wants pitching, and he said, look, when I 226 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: made the trade for Nailor and sware As I knew 227 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,079 Speaker 1: they were going to be free agents. I was all 228 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: part of the plan. And so look, whether he trades 229 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: or not, I think time will tell. But Suarez, you know, 230 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: in those thirty home runs, that changes things for the Yankees. 231 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 3: It really adds to the Chicago Cubs. 232 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: It's a It probably wins the division for the Brewers Apps. 233 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: So you know, I think at the end of the day, 234 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: it's what are you willing to step up and pay? 235 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: Is someone going to overpay for two months of Suarez? 236 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean that becomes a big question. I think it's 237 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: going to be a fascinating storyline, and I think how 238 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: Arizona plays these next two weeks out of the gate 239 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: is going to determine if they buy or sell. But 240 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: I promise you everybody that needs a third baseman, and 241 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: the three teams we just mentioned, they're watching very closely 242 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: with binoculars and scouts in the stands on every Unio 243 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: Suarez at bat, including when he got hit by the 244 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: pitch of the All Star Game. 245 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 3: I had one scout text me, go, oh no, please 246 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: don't tell me. So it's going to be interesting. 247 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 2: When I started seeing those tweets, with the home run 248 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 2: derby swing off participants and I saw Gino Suarez. I 249 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 2: was like, are they sure like the Diamondbacks online one 250 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: saying absolutely not. I don't care if he wants to 251 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,959 Speaker 2: do this, and they did scratch him, which made sense. 252 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 3: JB. 253 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: I got another name for you that I think's fascinating. 254 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 2: I was on a Cleveland radio show the other day 255 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 2: and I was stating my case for why this player 256 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: should be a Guardian for life. Stephen Kuan is the name. 257 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, we can't afford him long term. When 258 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: you have your fan base thinking you can't afford Stephen 259 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: Kwan long term, you are certainly fooling them. I know 260 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: that the Cleveland Guardians don't spend a lot of money, 261 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 2: but it's not like he's going to command hundreds of 262 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: millions of dollars. What would you do if you're running 263 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: the Guardians right now? Would you trade him? Because he 264 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 2: certainly provides that variety in a lineup as a contact 265 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: guy was great last year in the playoffs for the Guardians. 266 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: He has his limitations. Elite defender, great base runner. Isn't 267 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: this someone you would lock up? Or would you trade him? 268 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 2: Because you have to make that decision. Right, He's got 269 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: a couple of years of control after this. What are 270 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: you going to do? 271 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you know, look, Cleveland's got a tight budget, right, 272 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: it's not easy. And although you look at Kwan, you 273 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: don't think he's going to be expensive. If I'm the 274 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: agent for Kwan, this is a go glove left fielder 275 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: with top two in baseball and contact rate. This guy 276 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: gets on base. You know what Kwan would do for 277 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 1: the Padres right now? You put on at the top 278 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: of that lineup with Tatise and Marilyn Machado and I 279 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: don't know, I'm just drooling down the left side of 280 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: my mouth just thinking about it. And So if you're 281 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: Cleveland right now and you look at their farm system, 282 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: do you need to consider Kwan Class A Santana moving 283 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: them to try to get six or seven young players 284 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: to kind of rebuild this lineup? Knowing that you control 285 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: Kwan for two more years and then you know then 286 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,960 Speaker 1: what then you either have to extend them and pay 287 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: them what eighteen million a year? Sixteen million a year? 288 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to be somewhere in that range. 289 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: And if you're the agent, you're asking for more than that. 290 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: I think it's a difficult question without knowing where the 291 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: agent is. But I guess my answer to you is, 292 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: I would be exploring everything right now. I would be 293 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,079 Speaker 1: exploring trade. Can I make a trade that's going to 294 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: help me win because this is a really good player. 295 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: I'd also be exploring trying to sign them long term. 296 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: And if I can't do either, I'm gonna I'm gonna 297 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: let him go through the system right now, and I'll 298 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: readdress it in the offseason, or I'll readdress it next July. 299 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 3: You know, there's no gun in my head. I control 300 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: them for two more years. 301 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 4: By the way, don't the Padres already have Stephen Kuan 302 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 4: is his name? Luisa Rise, Maybe you can have two 303 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: of those guys. Batting average doesn't matter. 304 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: Jai can't tell them, no, no, it doesn't matter. 305 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: Same aj They're not the same because Kwan's gold glove 306 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: defense or Ice is a DH and number two Arises 307 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: a free agent at the end of the year. 308 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 3: And I can control Kwan for two more years. After this. 309 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: Arise is going to play his last few months as 310 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: a Padre. Then he got he won't be there next year. 311 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: So that's the difference. Between the two my opinion, that's 312 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: why I. 313 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 4: Think batting average matters. But I'm not a GM or 314 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 4: a former GM. I just play one on the show, 315 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 4: so I get it. I get it, Jim, all Right, 316 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. So here's my question for you. You're 317 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 4: talking about these position players, and you're talking about teams. 318 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 4: Just say they can't afford this, and it can't afford that. 319 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 4: The Pittsburgh Pirates, right, Bob Nudding, the Pittsburgh Pirates and you. 320 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 4: But they have Cabrian Hayes who hasn't been really good 321 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: offense in a long time. But Brian Reynolds would be 322 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 4: attractive to some teams even with this salary. Would they 323 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 4: think about moving one of those two guys that are 324 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 4: locked into long term deals. 325 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, they do. 326 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 1: They're going to have a hard time moving Hayes unless 327 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: they're going to pay a lot of the money down 328 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: because it actually is a bad contract for a guy 329 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: that just doesn't hit for power, but he can defend. 330 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: I would love to see him going to the Yankees, 331 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: where we all remember his dad, Charlie and what he 332 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: did for the Yankees and the postseason. I think that 333 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: would be a good fit in I'd like him to be, 334 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, have a different hitting group, kind of talking 335 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: to him see if there isn't a way to kind 336 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: of improve it. Because I always saw him in VP, 337 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: and I always felt like he could be forty doubles 338 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: twenty homers. He's never lived up to that. He's had 339 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. But I also feel like he's 340 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: got untapped potential. But yeah, I think I think they 341 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: would move him if they could have the right deal. 342 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: And I think Brian Reynolds, I think there's a really 343 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: good chance that he gets traded first, just because you know, 344 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: it's the market is so thin on outfielders, right. You 345 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: have Lewis Robert of the White Sox. You know, you've 346 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: got Ryan O'Hearn, who you know is a first baseman 347 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: d H type. 348 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: There's just not a lot of bats that are out there. 349 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: And you know, I think if you're the Pirates with Reynolds, 350 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: if you could turn him into two young bats, you know, 351 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: that would make some sense. I mean, ERG has got 352 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: to sell mortimercell and they've got a rock and roll, 353 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: they got a rattle. I mean, I would think if 354 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: you're Ben Cherry, don't you think that you're kind of 355 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: in trouble. I mean, you said, there with a good 356 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: pitching staff and you can't score any runs, you have 357 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: to do something about it. So you don't make the 358 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: deal with the Cubs and get Cassie. Don't be afraid 359 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: to trade Reynolds to Kansas City. You know who's got 360 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: a nice prospect package, including an elite catching prospect you 361 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: can get back into. I mean, there are some things 362 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 1: that Ben needs to go out and do. He can't 363 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: keep going down this road. Look, the owner's not gonna 364 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: get any money. We got to hope the new CBA 365 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: forces him to spend money. But until we get there, 366 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: Ben's got to find a way to get inexpensive bats. 367 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: And yeah, trading veterans like Reynolds and Hayes at this 368 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: point makes sense. And by the way, I'd like to 369 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: see both of those guys get a chance to play 370 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: for a contender. 371 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 3: It'd be good for their game. 372 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 4: Agreed, I totally agree. But I mean Ben Sherington's got 373 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: to feel like he's on the hot seat. The already 374 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 4: got rid of the manager. Usually the GM is after 375 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: the manager, and Ben Sherrington's been there for a while, 376 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 4: so at some point everyone's time is up, Jim, as 377 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: you know all right before I let you go. The 378 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: swing off was a big topic after the All Star Game. 379 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: Are you a fan of it? 380 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: I loved it. 381 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 4: Heck, why not. Let's bring this into the regular season. 382 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 4: If you get to the twelfth inning we have a 383 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 4: swing off, and think of some of the matchups we 384 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 4: could have on some of the big great teams to 385 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: keep the fans engaged. It would be exciting. I loved it. 386 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 4: My kid loved it. Who's eighteen years old. He watched it. 387 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 3: He loved it. 388 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 4: Every person I've talked to, for the most part, has 389 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: loved it. I think it's a great idea. 390 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: It was the funnest All Star game I've ever seen. 391 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was the best, because that eight 392 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: game in the Bronx, the ninety four game that was 393 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: eight seven, and as a kid, Reggie Jackson at Tiger Stadium, 394 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: and of course Ray Fosse thing in nineteen seventy. But 395 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 1: this was the funnest for sure All Star game. And 396 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: it was a great game. 397 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 3: Right. 398 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: We had the power pitching of Skeins and Ryan. We 399 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: had the power bats in the nine innings with Rooker, 400 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: Alonso and Carrol going deep. We had great defense in 401 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: the ninth by both Suarez and Olsen. We saw the 402 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: importance of speed when Bobby Witch Speed got that run 403 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: to tie at six six, we saw six nothing lead 404 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: go to six six like we had all that drama 405 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: and then we had this swing off. Now, granted, if 406 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: I had my say, I want to see Otawny and 407 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: Judge not Stours in Randa. Nothing against them, but I 408 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: hope next year when the managers set their three guys, 409 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: let's get the superstars that. Oh, by the way, some 410 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: of them that didn't want to do the derby put 411 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: him in to do this. 412 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 3: That was the coolest thing ever. 413 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: I felt like I was in my backyard as a 414 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: kid playing wifle ball home run derby. 415 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 3: It was so fun. 416 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: And then to see schwarbur on three pitches, three homers 417 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: to win it, and so they win seven to six 418 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: because of it, like all I have five, All of 419 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: them loved it. 420 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: All of them were blowing up my text. 421 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 422 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: It was exciting. It was great for baseball. Now in 423 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: terms of the regular season, AJ please please no, no, 424 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: no, no please no All Star Game? Yes, I love it. 425 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: You want to do it in spring training? I think 426 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: it'd be fun in spring training too. But no, no, no, no, not. 427 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 3: The regular season of the playoffs. 428 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 2: Please no, Now, I'm with you, not playoffs twelve inting. 429 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 2: I'm interested, JB. 430 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that as a fan. 431 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 4: I hold, come on, Jimmy, listen. You didn't probably want 432 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 4: the pitch block. You didn't want a lot of the 433 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 4: rules that are. 434 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: I didn't want the Manfred. 435 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 4: You didn't want the Manfred Runner. You didn't want more divisions, 436 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 4: you didn't want more play off I'm still stuck in 437 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 4: nineteen sixty. You didn't want them to lower the mound when 438 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 4: Bob Gibson was going a one to. 439 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 3: Two e R. 440 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: I know you are, Jim. 441 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 5: I wanted all of it, and I love this I did. 442 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 5: I don't want to lose. The is the guy throwing 443 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 5: BP didn't give my guy the right pitch in the 444 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 5: twelfth thing, and I better BP throwers. 445 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 3: Is one game the thrower. I had a game one 446 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 3: sixty three in nineteen ninety nine. 447 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: That I lost to Al Lighter in the Mets, and 448 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: I'll never forget it. I don't want to lose in 449 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: the twelfth inning because Evil doesn't throw a good pitch 450 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: and my guy hits the wall. 451 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 2: No, no, Hey, we're looking for the best athletes in 452 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 2: the world to play the sport, and I guess maybe 453 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 2: searching for the best BP throwers too. But yeah, I 454 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: think we're clear. I don't think it's going to be 455 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 2: a topic, at least not for a while. It was fun, though. 456 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: My last thing is mandate. You can't leave until the 457 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 2: game's over now, so you gotta wait two more hours 458 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: for those private jets, Joe Tani and everyone else. Two 459 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: more hours please, so that we can see you potentially 460 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: in the derby that you're talking about. That would be 461 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 2: the next the next rung. And I know the chances 462 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: of it happening, obviously, it's like a ten percent chance 463 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: that you get that, But still that would be the 464 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 2: plea JB. Great stuff. 465 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: Yes. 466 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: One last thing though, is you have to understand from 467 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: every All Star game from now on, I'm going to 468 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:03,199 Speaker 1: root for a tie. Yes, we all are walking for 469 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: that last tie. And I couldn't believe what happened in 470 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: that tie. And now who would have thought in twenty 471 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: twenty five we're going to root for ties every year. 472 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 4: Let's go, Yes, let's do it. 473 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: Hey, A lot of fans will go there and they 474 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: don't really care if the NL or the AL wins. 475 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 2: They're just gonna want to swing up. Maybe we try 476 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 2: and come up with a way to incorporate the swing 477 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: off into every game. 478 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. 479 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: It's like the game finishes and then if you win 480 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 2: the swing off, you had an extra two runs or 481 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. We can start to get creative because 482 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: if fans loved it and it's an exhibition game anyway, 483 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: let's try to make it more than a ten percent 484 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: chance of being in the game. Can we all agree 485 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 2: on that? Yes, agree with that, perfect JB. We'll hit 486 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 2: you again soon. We'll talk next week for more trade 487 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: designe action. 488 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 3: Thanks guys,