Speaker 1: All right, welcome episode thirty to the Bobby Cast, our
Speaker 1: first one after the break. By the way, Mike d
Speaker 1: welcome back right yet before there you good, buddy, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Good to see you again extime, I see every day. Uh.
Speaker 1: Today we have brand in, the late singer of a
Speaker 1: Lanco here. Hey, Brandon, what is up? Man? You've been
Speaker 1: adjusting your chair. The difference in this and any other
Speaker 1: interview that you'll ever do in your whole life. These
Speaker 1: are the most comfortable chairs. They are. You just sit
Speaker 1: back and relax. Wait about eighteen nineteen minutes you'll start crying.
Speaker 1: You won't even notice it. I know that's the problem.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm too comfortable. All about getting comfortable,
Speaker 1: ready to watch a movie. But have a drink of this.
Speaker 1: Don't look at what I dropped inside of it. Brandon's
Speaker 1: here from a Lanco. And before we talk about stuff,
Speaker 1: I want to play a little bit of Lanko because
Speaker 1: you guys are considered brand new artists. So if you
Speaker 1: haven't heard in the Atlanto's music, there's a little long
Speaker 1: lived tonight, crazy baby baby, don't be scared. When you
Speaker 1: got me, we can sit each other. There's a little
Speaker 1: song called American love story the River, You go be
Speaker 1: my wife. We didn't know any better. I didn't have clomb.
Speaker 1: That was what you wanted. You want to need it
Speaker 1: and we can meet him Twain, We're gonna be the
Speaker 1: greatest love story is t sing. That's your best song,
Speaker 1: by the way, And we know each other a bit.
Speaker 1: A lot of people can. I've never met him before.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, you know, come in out of
Speaker 1: your story. I guess we've met a couple of times. Yeah, briefly, yeah, briefly,
Speaker 1: but but we've met and you guys are you guys
Speaker 1: are pretty young? Huh? We are young? Yeah? We uh
Speaker 1: are each we are thirteen, Um, we're we're all twenties.
Speaker 1: The we range from twenty four to twenty seven, So
Speaker 1: meeting aid somewhere mid twenties. I guess. So Lanco is
Speaker 1: a combination of a couple of words, right, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's a lancastering company. Yeah. From what I remember,
Speaker 1: somebody worked there and that's where you guys like practiced
Speaker 1: they got together. Yeah, well, why so the band name
Speaker 1: comes from my name is Branda Lancaster. So I uh
Speaker 1: so you know that's not like warehouse. There is a
Speaker 1: warehouse in the story, but it's not not Lancaster. Um
Speaker 1: my name is Branda Lancaster. So you know, early days
Speaker 1: in Nashville, and uh, well, I'm trying to think how
Speaker 1: far to go back. I met Tripp, who's the drummer
Speaker 1: in Lanco and he worked at a carpet warehouse, and
Speaker 1: uh I met him in Chattanoga, Tennessee. I was going
Speaker 1: to school out there and we both played a music
Speaker 1: festival there in different bands. And I'm from Nashville. Originally,
Speaker 1: I grew up outside of Nashville that you know here
Speaker 1: that is oh, I know, which is fun. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that was rare until because when you grow up here,
Speaker 1: everyone's from here. I grew up in Smyrna South in Nashville,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, we grew up here. Everyone's from here.
Speaker 1: And then I went to school and when I came back,
Speaker 1: you know, started making new friends and meeting people, and
Speaker 1: everyone would ask where I was from. And that question
Speaker 1: was so strange to me because I was like, I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: where are you from? And they're always a good from here.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, where are you from? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: More people aren't from here. Oh, especially in the business
Speaker 1: that we're in. Absolutely. Yeah, more like people aren't from
Speaker 1: here from I know, I've met very few people that
Speaker 1: are from here. Um. But yeah, but I went to
Speaker 1: school in Chattanooga. So when I moved back, Tripp was
Speaker 1: moving to Nashville the same week I was. So, you know,
Speaker 1: I I've been writing songs, I mean virtually in my
Speaker 1: whole life. And uh and and so I told me
Speaker 1: I have the slew of songs and I want to
Speaker 1: put a band together, and kind of gave me the
Speaker 1: idea and and so we put it to get you know,
Speaker 1: my name is Brena Lancaster. So it started as you know,
Speaker 1: Lancaster and and something, and we thought we'd build a
Speaker 1: band arount around. Let me ask you about that. Let
Speaker 1: me stop you for a second, because I always thought,
Speaker 1: you know, all the guys in Dave Matthews band, m
Speaker 1: Dave Matthews band, like Dave matthewss band, bon Jovi, John
Speaker 1: bon Jovi, nobody else's name Van Halen, Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: a couple of Van Hammon. Bro you know what, how
Speaker 1: come is it? Because you're the one that came up
Speaker 1: with the idea, and he was just cool with it
Speaker 1: because the last name is not company, is it. Yeah? Uh,
Speaker 1: it actually is. No, it's not um Yeah, we were
Speaker 1: duos Lancaskop. No. It was I think the way it started,
Speaker 1: you know, at first, like he was in a different
Speaker 1: band and I had written a bunch of songs. It
Speaker 1: was the thing where I could have done a solo
Speaker 1: project if I wanted to, I could have just you know,
Speaker 1: made it mine and and hired guys out. And you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of had a revolving door, which is what
Speaker 1: happened Nashville lot and early on that's kind of what
Speaker 1: I thought might happen, you know, because I had these
Speaker 1: songs and you just don't know how long you're gonna
Speaker 1: keep a guitar player a bass player because everyone's working
Speaker 1: and has to you know, kind of go where the
Speaker 1: money is sometimes. But early on it was, you know,
Speaker 1: this thing where I I wrote these songs, but I
Speaker 1: want to build a band around it. I did look
Speaker 1: at Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, and I did look
Speaker 1: at at Dave Matthews band where there is a primary
Speaker 1: songwriter and there's this guy that came with the songs,
Speaker 1: but there's a band around it that makes it unique.
Speaker 1: And has its own sound. And when you keep those
Speaker 1: same guys together, like even like a Zach Brown band,
Speaker 1: you know it has a unique sound because they've had time.
Speaker 1: The same guys have had time to craft that sound
Speaker 1: and and and build what they're doing, and and also
Speaker 1: go through hard time together, go through great times together,
Speaker 1: um and and so early on, I didn't know what
Speaker 1: it would look like, you know, I didn't know if
Speaker 1: it would be a band band or if it would
Speaker 1: be this Zach Brown band or Dave Matthews band, and
Speaker 1: guys might come in and come out, and you keep
Speaker 1: hiring and you keep adding people. I didn't know at
Speaker 1: all what it would look like. I just knew we
Speaker 1: had Lancaster and then if Tripp wanted to be in
Speaker 1: this band, we could have a company and start building it.
Speaker 1: And that was also where the name change kind of
Speaker 1: came though, was when we shortened it. It was because
Speaker 1: it was the same guys for for a long time,
Speaker 1: and you know, we had gone a year and then
Speaker 1: we had just all become friends. We're all right, this
Speaker 1: is a band, so but people know it's is Lancastering Company.
Speaker 1: But let's shorten it to more of a band name
Speaker 1: kind of sound selfless thing because Landco does not sound
Speaker 1: like random like guys, right, it doesn't. So it's selfless
Speaker 1: thing to make that move to go Lanco, because if
Speaker 1: it were me, I'd have been like, we're gonna call
Speaker 1: ourselves brand Caster, We're gonna change the name to brand
Speaker 1: so every but you know, I think that's uh that
Speaker 1: you two together. Well what the other two guys come
Speaker 1: from though? So there it's a five piece altogether. So
Speaker 1: I so Trip and I were jamming and which one
Speaker 1: of you guys do I not know? Then? You I've
Speaker 1: never met all five of you at once. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's the one that you don't like, because that's
Speaker 1: the one I haven't met. Um who probably I mean
Speaker 1: probably Tripped, like even though you've met him at now,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding Tripping. Our best friends and obviously have the
Speaker 1: most history together. But we yeah, there's five us all together.
Speaker 1: And we had you know, Trip myself, and we literally
Speaker 1: would just sit and he played drums and I played guitar,
Speaker 1: and it's like, man, we need more instruments. Um, and
Speaker 1: so we Uh, I met this guys songwriting competition that
Speaker 1: went to mts U and we start talking. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm putting this band together, do you know any guitar players?
Speaker 1: Let's start there, and he gave me a list guitar players.
Speaker 1: And going back to kind of the session player thing,
Speaker 1: I met one guy who was awesome and he was great,
Speaker 1: good vibe, good hanging and I was like, Oh, this
Speaker 1: guy is awesome. I can't wait from to play with us.
Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, you know, my day rates two
Speaker 1: fifty a day, and I immediately was like, oh, that
Speaker 1: may not work, which means he's not investing coming in
Speaker 1: low with the high. He just wants to pay right right,
Speaker 1: which he deserves. I mean, you know, he had done
Speaker 1: a lot of things and play with other people, and
Speaker 1: this is he's at that point where he's a professional
Speaker 1: career musician. Where we were doing this thing, we were
Speaker 1: building it from the ground up, and uh, you gotta
Speaker 1: be poor to build from the ground de actually like,
Speaker 1: you have to be willing to be poor. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And he wasn't willing to be poor, which is are
Speaker 1: because he didn't have to be right exactly, and and
Speaker 1: it would I don't think it would have worked because
Speaker 1: when you're starting out, you've you've kind of all got
Speaker 1: to be on the same page, because you're gonna play
Speaker 1: really bad gigs and really awkward gigs, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: be in situations where it sounds bad and you're not
Speaker 1: getting paid anything except for free food and drinks or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And if everyone's not in the same
Speaker 1: mindset and kind of in the same place and with
Speaker 1: the same vision, there's gonna be someone unhappy. So I
Speaker 1: think it's important in that early stage to kind of
Speaker 1: make sure you're on the same page with that. So
Speaker 1: the next guy called up went to mts U and all,
Speaker 1: and we started talking and we clicked musically, and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I invited him to come out and play
Speaker 1: with us. So the three of us started playing, and
Speaker 1: that was Eric was a guitar player, So Eric Trip
Speaker 1: and I started playing, and then Eric went to school
Speaker 1: with Chandler who plays bass and Jared who plays everything. Um,
Speaker 1: so he brought them along. So then we had three
Speaker 1: mts U guys and Tripped myself. And you know that
Speaker 1: it was funny because the first time I remember the
Speaker 1: first rehearsal, wasn't this random living room this guy let
Speaker 1: us use and uh, and we were playing and we
Speaker 1: had this whole plan like I had these songs, We're
Speaker 1: gonna practice them, and and we really probably played music
Speaker 1: for like twenty or thirty minutes and then just started
Speaker 1: hanging out. We took a break just and we hung
Speaker 1: out to like three in the morning, and then it
Speaker 1: was like, you guys, want to do this tomorrow, Like
Speaker 1: we'll hang out tomorrow and maybe bring our instruments and
Speaker 1: and so it started real organically and real naturally as
Speaker 1: as it turned into five friends hanging out who also
Speaker 1: played music. Um, okay, so you had to become friends.
Speaker 1: It's a tough thing to do. Yeah, it and five
Speaker 1: is a lot of personalities. And I know it because
Speaker 1: one I hang out with the same people every day
Speaker 1: to a radio show, work together every day, many hours,
Speaker 1: and you learn and at first was infatuation stage. W
Speaker 1: You're like, these are the greatest people in the world.
Speaker 1: That's like, I'm so tired of a couple of them.
Speaker 1: Then you're tired of another couple of them, and then
Speaker 1: you just realize what everyone's faults are and how to
Speaker 1: accept them and if you really want to be in
Speaker 1: a long term, and so are the five people that
Speaker 1: you started officially Lanka with it the same five now,
Speaker 1: same five So nobody switched in and out. Nope, no
Speaker 1: one switching out. Here's the awkward question, when did you
Speaker 1: do you get paid more everybody else? Uh no, you
Speaker 1: guts split it five ways. Yeah, look at that, so
Speaker 1: and look at that Yeah yeah, so we I mean,
Speaker 1: and that was another thing early on, it's it's for me. Um.
Speaker 1: Now there there are things where in the future, you know,
Speaker 1: if people you know people right, if you're right, because
Speaker 1: but early on, honestly, early on, I was the first
Speaker 1: one to get a publishing deal, and so I fronted
Speaker 1: the cost for everything because we we got this RV
Speaker 1: to tour around in um and I would pay for gas,
Speaker 1: like I just my publishing money. I looked at as
Speaker 1: land cos money. So I was paying for everything and
Speaker 1: I wasn't taking money for for show gigs. I would
Speaker 1: just you know, everyone would split it because I I
Speaker 1: I you know, I looked at it. You know, Lanco
Speaker 1: helped me get this publishing deal, and we're all in
Speaker 1: this together. And so now it's even doubts where yeah,
Speaker 1: we play shows, we all get paid for it. And
Speaker 1: it's also two different jobs as a band. You guys
Speaker 1: are playing and it's really awesome and you split it
Speaker 1: five ways because your name is in the band, just saying,
Speaker 1: but you all do right. And if you have publishing deals,
Speaker 1: that's a whole different thing. You're paid, you have to
Speaker 1: write certain amount of a right, and we have different
Speaker 1: publishing deals too, you know, so like with different companies
Speaker 1: and we write for different people. You know, we're all
Speaker 1: over the place. So get really messy if you started
Speaker 1: throwing that all in there. But as far as yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all on stage together, we're all sweating the same.
Speaker 1: We're all if someone buys a T shirt, we all
Speaker 1: work to help sell that T shirt on stage. And
Speaker 1: so there you go. That's interesting. Surprised with that whole
Speaker 1: If my name was then it what I go? It's
Speaker 1: probably not. My band is not real, so it doesn't
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Speaker 1: Bones Show. So here with Brandon Lancaster of of Lanko
Speaker 1: and so okay, you guys are a band. Um, let's
Speaker 1: just kind of go around the circle for a second
Speaker 1: and start with what's happening right now. You guys are
Speaker 1: out on the road with the couple of my friends
Speaker 1: brothers Osboe and right. Yeah, and so when you're out
Speaker 1: on the road, how much time do you actually spend
Speaker 1: together with the other band with them? It's been a
Speaker 1: pretty cool situation because we hang out pretty much every night. Um.
Speaker 1: We you know, we kind of knew them before and
Speaker 1: we got to hang out with them once before and
Speaker 1: then I know, I know John from just the riding
Speaker 1: circles in Nashville and his wife Lucy, and so there's
Speaker 1: there's already kind of a connection there, and so we're
Speaker 1: we're kind of just all buddies. And and I mean honestly,
Speaker 1: most nights after the show will walk on their bus
Speaker 1: and hang out until bus call, and and before the show,
Speaker 1: you know, might hang out in the dressing room. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty tight community. It's really fun. They're good dudes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there are a lot of good people, and there
Speaker 1: are people and it also gets busy and groups stay
Speaker 1: in groups. But they're they're good dudes. Yeah, they're very
Speaker 1: and they're very genuine. You know. The first time we
Speaker 1: really hung out with them was at this festival in
Speaker 1: a Michigan and and I knew John, but no one
Speaker 1: really knew each other the band or you know, one
Speaker 1: in Lanco new John or TJ. And so I talked
Speaker 1: to John. John was like, you guys should come hang
Speaker 1: out with us after we're done playing. So we were
Speaker 1: in this ninety Winnebego at the time, and they invite
Speaker 1: us onto our bus and this was three in the
Speaker 1: afternoon and we were supposed to leave it four in
Speaker 1: the afternoon. We ended up staying there till literally two
Speaker 1: in the morning. And it wasn't just a good hang
Speaker 1: like John and TJ. Like we were on their bus,
Speaker 1: We're watching TV, um watching sports and and I mean
Speaker 1: they're so cool. They literally like, man, we've been, We've been,
Speaker 1: We've been in a van, We've been in all kinds
Speaker 1: of vehicles. We know what it's like to not have
Speaker 1: a bus. If you got like, if you're tired, take
Speaker 1: a nap. You know, you guys can hang out. You know,
Speaker 1: we've got TVs. Like, grab yourself a beer, water, whatever
Speaker 1: you guys need. What's ours is yours. And so we
Speaker 1: thought that was so cool that they kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: approached it that way. And really it just seems so genuine.
Speaker 1: They didn't have you don't have to do that. You
Speaker 1: can hang out with someone to not be that inviting
Speaker 1: and that cool. And so we we from from day one,
Speaker 1: we've just thought the world of them, and I think
Speaker 1: they're really genuine guys. I think that's why a lot
Speaker 1: of the internal community roots for them to not only
Speaker 1: are they really good, but they're really good people. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people, but then they're genuine humans.
Speaker 1: Those dudes are cool. I had dinner with John a
Speaker 1: couple of nights ago, and John Osborne is one with
Speaker 1: the big beard and kind of the big red hair.
Speaker 1: T J is the clean cut guy, you know. Definitely
Speaker 1: the vocalist, uh and John plays guitar like a madman.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. It's apts. I'm not kidding. They're one of
Speaker 1: the only acts I respect, really, and we get to
Speaker 1: be with so many acts. We've toured with so many
Speaker 1: acts past year, and I respect all of them, and
Speaker 1: they all have different strengths, um, but Brothers Osborne is
Speaker 1: the only band that we've toured with that if I'm
Speaker 1: not getting Every night, after we're done we load up
Speaker 1: our stuff, we all either walk back out front or
Speaker 1: side stage and just watch their set because it's so
Speaker 1: good and and every night John brings on the guitar
Speaker 1: and and TJ is just a great vocalist, and it's
Speaker 1: it's such a pleasure to watch them. And it's a
Speaker 1: story of John has been in Nashville as of right
Speaker 1: now sixteen years and they're just now starting to be
Speaker 1: like a thing, right, and they've always been good, but
Speaker 1: I'm just not starting to be a thing sixteen years.
Speaker 1: It's a testament of just stay with it and grind
Speaker 1: and if okay, if a song doesn't make it, okay,
Speaker 1: what's the next one? You get dropped from a label? Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the next one you get? What's the next one?
Speaker 1: Keep going? And you know that's that's a great story
Speaker 1: for young people because you know, you do things, just
Speaker 1: don't fall into your lap, trust me, I know. So
Speaker 1: for you, where did it start? Like when did people
Speaker 1: start sniffing around and think, because like how guys are
Speaker 1: pretty good? Well, you know, we got we got our start,
Speaker 1: you know in uh we would we would play in
Speaker 1: Murphy's Broll sometimes. But really Trip worked at this warehouse
Speaker 1: literally right down the street and uh uh at Myer's
Speaker 1: warehouse and they've actually knocked it down since then, which
Speaker 1: is sad. But we didn't even we couldn't even afford
Speaker 1: a place to practice, and so Trip, you know, literally
Speaker 1: was like I have the key to my warehouse I work,
Speaker 1: and we could sneak in there at night. So we would,
Speaker 1: you know, literally sneak in there every night and just
Speaker 1: play and you know, there was no air, no heats
Speaker 1: when the winners. It was freezing in the summers. Literally,
Speaker 1: there's videos going around with us like practicing in our
Speaker 1: boxers because we're all just sweating, and but we're gonna
Speaker 1: play and we're gonna practice. So we were doing that
Speaker 1: and we would play. We would play wherever we could.
Speaker 1: But one thing for us was because we were a
Speaker 1: band and we had original music, finding a place in
Speaker 1: Nashville was always a struggle because if you go to Broadway,
Speaker 1: they want a four hour cover set because tourists they're
Speaker 1: there and they want to hear familiar songs exactly, which
Speaker 1: I totally get an understanding. I mean, I've had plenty
Speaker 1: of nights on Broadway when I first moved here, and
Speaker 1: I love singing all the classic songs. But uh, for us,
Speaker 1: you were you know, we would do covers. We have
Speaker 1: no problem doing covers, but we really wanted to showcase
Speaker 1: our original music and really wanted to grow as a band,
Speaker 1: growing our original music. So we would play wherever we
Speaker 1: could get a gig. But it might be outside of Broadway.
Speaker 1: It might be on Demumbrium or in Midtown Um and
Speaker 1: these are streets in Nashville, the country. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: they're all still downtown, but they're not on that main
Speaker 1: strip and it's it's where a little more original music
Speaker 1: is that. So we were doing that for a while
Speaker 1: and then but we all had odd jobs. You know,
Speaker 1: I was working at a concession stand and can you
Speaker 1: work at bridge Stone? I worked at Bridgeton Area, which
Speaker 1: is every town has a big arena, and Bridgetone is
Speaker 1: where you know, like if Keith Urban played Bridgetone, it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's the Madison Square Garden of New York.
Speaker 1: Which is funny you say, Keith Urban played bridge Stone
Speaker 1: because this is where are a lot literally our lives
Speaker 1: took a turn. We had been playing this music, playing gigs,
Speaker 1: playing in bars, honestly, playing like restaurants where people are
Speaker 1: eating montrealistics and you're trying to put on a show.
Speaker 1: And one night I'm working concessions, selling hot dogs and
Speaker 1: burgers and and sewed all that stuff. And were already
Speaker 1: a band at this point that you're practicing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: we were a band. We were playing gigs, We're doing
Speaker 1: whatever we couldn't. This was a point where we were
Speaker 1: sitting around, we were trying to demo songs to Nashville.
Speaker 1: We were trying to get a producer it. But going
Speaker 1: from that band that plays some songs to a band
Speaker 1: that has recorded music, to a band that sells, to
Speaker 1: a band that gets a record deal, there's so many steps.
Speaker 1: And we were talking about those steps, you know, how
Speaker 1: do we get a producer, how do we get recorded music?
Speaker 1: How do we afford it? Should we do a go
Speaker 1: fund me or what should we do? Right around that time,
Speaker 1: I'm working a Keith Urban concert at Bridgestone and uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: get your dog. Just doing the register and I see
Speaker 1: a guy walk by that I recognized, and his name's
Speaker 1: Jay Joyce. He's a producer in Nashville. And he you know,
Speaker 1: he had produced Eric Church, he had produced Keith Urban.
Speaker 1: He had produced uh, Carrie Underwood and a Little Big
Speaker 1: Town and and a bunch of rock bands classic you know, Emmy,
Speaker 1: Lou Harris, Cage, Elephant Um. He was. He also played
Speaker 1: with the Wallflowers. Yeah, like he's a great play yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean great musician, then producer. He's done all the
Speaker 1: Miranda stuff, Like played a lot of guitar on that.
Speaker 1: So he's been So I was a fan. We were
Speaker 1: all fans of his as a producer, as a player,
Speaker 1: and we we knew him, you know, and and he
Speaker 1: was just one of those guys and we love Eric Church,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he did all the Eric records. And
Speaker 1: I'm working my register at bridge Stone and see him
Speaker 1: walk by at Keith at a Keith Urban show and
Speaker 1: a Little Big Town was also playing that and he
Speaker 1: had worked on both this record. So that's that's why
Speaker 1: I was there. Um, he walks by and my line
Speaker 1: was kind of dead. Oh you went after him at
Speaker 1: the show. I shut down my register, asked the people
Speaker 1: in my line if they could move to another line
Speaker 1: while they were yelling at me. I kind of just
Speaker 1: left and walked up to him. And what are you wearing?
Speaker 1: I individualized when you go up to J. Joyce is
Speaker 1: a big producer and big, big player and it's worked,
Speaker 1: I mean again everything from Faith to Urban to Thomas
Speaker 1: Read a little big. What are you wearing? I'm wearing
Speaker 1: Khaki's in a bridge Stone Arena uniform, in a name
Speaker 1: tag that says my name is Brandon. What colors the
Speaker 1: shirt blue and gold? There because predators colors. So so
Speaker 1: you go up to J. Joyce, who's there too, and advisor,
Speaker 1: a Bridge Stone visor. Oh now we're talking. Now we're talking.
Speaker 1: You go up to this really cool, innovative producer and
Speaker 1: the dorkiest close imaginable and you say, what, Well, first
Speaker 1: I saw, I was like down. It was kind of
Speaker 1: at the very end of the arena, so it was
Speaker 1: kind of a dead part and he was the only
Speaker 1: person standing there, and I'm down, and I kind of
Speaker 1: go Jay Jay to see if he'll turn his head,
Speaker 1: to make sure to make sure to him because it's
Speaker 1: so weird that it could even be him, because you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, what is he even doing here? He's you know,
Speaker 1: he doesn't get out much. And uh, and I got
Speaker 1: Jenny turns his head and I just walk up to
Speaker 1: him and hey, man, my name is Brandon, which was
Speaker 1: funny because I'm wearing a name tag my name is
Speaker 1: but you know, my name is Brandon, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you man, I'm a huge
Speaker 1: fan of what you do. Uh, And and just told him,
Speaker 1: you know, I love the records he had worked on
Speaker 1: and referenced some records and did you know this happens
Speaker 1: to every minute of every day, Like, yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: wondering where the approach came in, like what did you
Speaker 1: do this as different? You know, I don't know what
Speaker 1: I will say. One thing about Jay is he doesn't
Speaker 1: go out a lot like he was. I think three
Speaker 1: of the five album of the Years the Album of
Speaker 1: the Year this year for c m as either two
Speaker 1: or three of the five he had worked on. He
Speaker 1: wasn't at the c m A Awards, Like he didn't
Speaker 1: even go. He was working. So he but when he
Speaker 1: does go out, I know people approach him, but you
Speaker 1: know I I didn't because people always say like, oh,
Speaker 1: you made a move, like you pitched yourself, like you
Speaker 1: saw something you went not really like as much as
Speaker 1: I'd like to say, like, yeah, I really went for it.
Speaker 1: I just loved what the guy did. I loved his work,
Speaker 1: and we're you knowledgeable in his works and you know
Speaker 1: you weren't. Absolutely that's a big deal. Yeah, if you
Speaker 1: go to someone and you don't have time to prepare
Speaker 1: and you know everything about them, Yeah, there's a respect
Speaker 1: that even though you're pitching, they're like, oh, you actually
Speaker 1: know what I do, right, And that's what I you know. Initially,
Speaker 1: I just went up to tell him I love the
Speaker 1: air The last air turch record the Outsiders that he
Speaker 1: had done and and the little big town stuff and
Speaker 1: also like Cage the Elephant. It's a rock band and amously,
Speaker 1: you know, and I asked him a few questions about
Speaker 1: some of this stuff on the record, and and so
Speaker 1: we just started talking music. Um. And then that came
Speaker 1: around to him asking, you know about me and my thing.
Speaker 1: And he was like, you're a songwriter, right, because I,
Speaker 1: you know, talked about writing and I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a writer and I'm in a band. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: tell me about the band. Kind of started talking about it,
Speaker 1: and he just real nontionally because that that's cool. Managed
Speaker 1: to complain me some music sometime and you got you
Speaker 1: got a direction that that would be uh, that would
Speaker 1: be putting it lightly. No, Uh well, I mean the
Speaker 1: thing is Nashville though, you hear that kind Everyone's like,
Speaker 1: let's have a dinner, let's get together, let's right together.
Speaker 1: Let's right. I mean, that's that's the Nashville hey man,
Speaker 1: Let's write together. You never and I've had producers before,
Speaker 1: you know, say like, oh, I'd love to work with
Speaker 1: some stuff, man, and it doesn't happen. They don't call
Speaker 1: you back, they're busy for two years, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: and frankly you're unknown. Yeah, Like, what's the benefit of
Speaker 1: working with some kids in a dorky set of khakis?
Speaker 1: I mean they were cool khakis. Man, there's always a
Speaker 1: benefit if you hit the right one. But there are
Speaker 1: a thousand door he gets khakis. So for him to go, hey,
Speaker 1: play me some music, it's one thing, but for him
Speaker 1: to actually follow up and now, how did that happen?
Speaker 1: So I I said, oh, yeah, I'd love to you many,
Speaker 1: that'd be cool, not even thinking it could be real.
Speaker 1: That was towards me in the conversation. Kind of the conversation,
Speaker 1: you know, came to an end, and I thought, what
Speaker 1: if he is serious? What if I really could play
Speaker 1: him some music? That'd be so cool, just to play
Speaker 1: for him, you know, just to even go to a studio.
Speaker 1: So I like started walking right away and awkwardly turned.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I just realized that I don't
Speaker 1: have your number. Is there a way I get your number?
Speaker 1: And he was like, oh yeah, Sharon. He was funny.
Speaker 1: He just said it like he said his number, and
Speaker 1: thank god I had my phone out and really quickly
Speaker 1: put it in and saved it, and I was like, cool,
Speaker 1: thanks man. Was it like, are you married? Single? Got
Speaker 1: a girlfriend? Right right right now? Have a girlfriend? Was
Speaker 1: it like when you meet a girl and you meet
Speaker 1: them and you like them and you have it, like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to call it. I don't know when
Speaker 1: I should call them, Like I don't know what day,
Speaker 1: what time of the day should I? Was that like that?
Speaker 1: It was exactly like that. I went to that night.
Speaker 1: So Trip the drummer literally lives on the next street
Speaker 1: over from here, by the way, um, and we were,
Speaker 1: you know, neighbors down the street. We were over there
Speaker 1: or we were pubbed down there, and he was there
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, I text him after work
Speaker 1: like stay where we're at. I gotta come over the pub.
Speaker 1: I gotta show you something. And I went there and
Speaker 1: showed him, just showed him Jay's number, just said Jay
Speaker 1: Joys and his number and he's like no, you know.
Speaker 1: And then it kind of became like, well, now what
Speaker 1: I mean? What do we call them? So I thought,
Speaker 1: let's get some music together, Let's get some good demos
Speaker 1: so we can have an accurate representation of what we're doing.
Speaker 1: So we went through like two different producers paid them,
Speaker 1: like for demo costs. By the way, you're hiring producers
Speaker 1: to produce something so another producer hears it, right, just
Speaker 1: I mean it was just demos, you know. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: well demo aren't recording into your iPhone. There's the recording
Speaker 1: into your iPhone, the work tape, and then there's getting
Speaker 1: someone to actually put a little work into a track.
Speaker 1: And you're paying a producer so an know the producer
Speaker 1: will hear it and hopefully produce you Like, it's so
Speaker 1: many little up That's what we were talking about, absolutely
Speaker 1: and so and that's why that's the way you're supposed
Speaker 1: to do. You're supposed to have demos when you go
Speaker 1: to someone and and will demo stuff ourselves, which just
Speaker 1: doesn't sound as good as going to a studio. So
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let's play. Let's pay a
Speaker 1: few hundred bucks per track and give him like three
Speaker 1: songs and have some work tapes. And we had two
Speaker 1: different producers, like we'd start and they'd bail. And now
Speaker 1: a month had passed since I talked to Jay. I
Speaker 1: totally forgot about you, and so I I was on
Speaker 1: my way over the studio to like talk to this
Speaker 1: producer that it had. He was a good guy, nice guy,
Speaker 1: he was busy, and it just he wasn't getting to
Speaker 1: our stuff. And I'm in traffic and I swear this
Speaker 1: is like a movie and this sounds so corny, but
Speaker 1: I'm listening to the radio and Springsteen comes on not bruised, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Church of Springsteen, which Jay had produced, and I hear
Speaker 1: it and I literally just pull out of traffic, pull
Speaker 1: into a parking lot and I'm like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna go. I'm just gonna call him. And I
Speaker 1: just call him. Didn't have anything to offer, didn't like
Speaker 1: I looved, just send you some demos. I said, hey man,
Speaker 1: this is really round Money's brand Lancaster. I met you
Speaker 1: like a month ago at Bridgetone. He's like, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up. I was like, hey, well, you know you
Speaker 1: you you said about a month ago that maybe I
Speaker 1: come over and play some music and I'd love to
Speaker 1: do that. And I kind of started giving my story
Speaker 1: about not having demos. He's like, he goes, and this
Speaker 1: is very J goes, look kid, what do you want
Speaker 1: to do? Why are you calling me? What do you want?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I want to be an artist.
Speaker 1: I want to be an artist. I want to be
Speaker 1: a songwriter. I'm in this band. I want to play
Speaker 1: all over the world. I want to I want people
Speaker 1: to hear our music. I want to be a songwriter.
Speaker 1: I just the next step. I'm trying to get that
Speaker 1: next step. He's like, all right, we'll come over tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm three o'clock. Wow that quick, huh. So I go
Speaker 1: over by myself and playing some songs on acoustic guitar,
Speaker 1: which it's funny. We put all that work and trying
Speaker 1: to get demos. But the way Jay is, he wants
Speaker 1: to hear it kind of. So he's like, I just play, Like,
Speaker 1: pick up that guitar and play, Like, play what you
Speaker 1: think is a single? So I played him a song.
Speaker 1: He's like, what you play him? We do? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: get there right here. This is uh, it's actually you
Speaker 1: at Jay sent us this, this is you at his
Speaker 1: but I do have we do here we go, So
Speaker 1: you play you play this pharm acoustic? Yeah, just acoustics,
Speaker 1: like when you're playing it, you're watching it kind of.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just trying not to think about that.
Speaker 1: This means anything in my mind. When you're in those situations,
Speaker 1: like I'm a very my personality. I'll look, I'm very
Speaker 1: future oriented. I'll think like, well, how is this going
Speaker 1: to play out? And what will happen if I do
Speaker 1: this and this and this. But in those kind of situations,
Speaker 1: I can freak myself out. So I kind of just
Speaker 1: that's the kind of situation where you go, you know what,
Speaker 1: this is really cool. No matter how this turns out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell my kids about this one day. I
Speaker 1: want to be like, yeah, one of those guests, do
Speaker 1: you do playing some songs. I got to meet him
Speaker 1: and played his piano, you know whatever it was, and
Speaker 1: and so I was kind of just in the moment
Speaker 1: playing the song, just enjoying that I was playing it
Speaker 1: for him, and uh, I finished, and he's stone cold,
Speaker 1: like he's good poker face and he's you know, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna like show emotions. She's like, cool man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you can. You can write a good song. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a hit. That's cool. Uh, now play a
Speaker 1: song that never would be on the radio, but you
Speaker 1: really like it. And I played him another song called
Speaker 1: in the Morning that we actually ended up cutting. Uh,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's not out yet. In the morning, every
Speaker 1: not that one. If if I wrote that, then I
Speaker 1: would have flown my private jet right here, um every
Speaker 1: morning for those that are going to correct me on Twitter.
Speaker 1: So you play in the morning for him, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: and you know it's a it's a more of a
Speaker 1: ballad and a different time signature, and it's a little
Speaker 1: more artsy, but it's a very real song lyrically, and
Speaker 1: you know it's a it's a love song. But it
Speaker 1: starts out I'm tired of you, you're sick of me, um,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of about just the journey of no
Speaker 1: matter what we're going through in the morning, we're still
Speaker 1: gonna wake up and be best friends. So just know
Speaker 1: that and it's okay whatever we're going through right now. Um.
Speaker 1: So I played him that, and then I played him
Speaker 1: American Love Story, which is your best song, by the way,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm glad I played it for him then,
Speaker 1: and uh, and he he thought it was cool and
Speaker 1: he was like, all right, that's that's you know, it's
Speaker 1: I've heard I need to hear. And after that, so
Speaker 1: he produced you because of that that and amery I guess, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he hate producer because what we do and
Speaker 1: and I hate you love the story and then this
Speaker 1: is a good song. We love this one. We didn't
Speaker 1: know a long life times ago. It's fine. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you this American Love Story is earlier your best song.
Speaker 1: Thank you man. We're excited about that one. And that
Speaker 1: you know from day one. American Love Story is a
Speaker 1: special song. It's a story. It's it's the reason it's
Speaker 1: a song. That's the reason you're in country music. UM,
Speaker 1: it's just that worry that people relate to. UM. And
Speaker 1: it's been cool to play it on the road literally
Speaker 1: every night, which we love it like people keep doing it.
Speaker 1: But every night people come up to us and tell
Speaker 1: us how they are the American Love Story, and that's
Speaker 1: their story. Whether it's someone's deployed in the army and
Speaker 1: they came back, or whether they met in high school
Speaker 1: or met in college, or we'll have old couples, young couples,
Speaker 1: and so it's been really cool to see a song
Speaker 1: like that relate to so many different people on so
Speaker 1: many levels and kind of put their story into it.
Speaker 1: So you and I've call it and I got a job.
Speaker 1: I was working that nine five. I don't think about
Speaker 1: this band the singer. Kind of sucks. It's terrible. Never
Speaker 1: fell so alive. A spaming day's work, can't spam a
Speaker 1: night's drinking, Allen that screaming for them? Day you're coming back, No,
Speaker 1: coudn't come too soon, couldn't come too soon. Well, now
Speaker 1: it's gonna be up forever. You're gonna better. And now
Speaker 1: I've learning all about American love story there from Lanco. Man.
Speaker 1: This a girlfriend you have? All you guys been together? Oh,
Speaker 1: man a while. We met in college, so about six years.
Speaker 1: M hm hm. I knew there would be something to
Speaker 1: it when you took a breath before you answered, well,
Speaker 1: it's because I always get it wrong. How long we've
Speaker 1: been together? Six years? Uh? Yeah? How does she feel
Speaker 1: about this? With you? The growth the road? You're a
Speaker 1: good looking dude, you're fronting a band, You're getting some trade.
Speaker 1: It's as much as it's a grind for you on
Speaker 1: this front, I don't know. I never better. It's also
Speaker 1: a little it's worked for her too, absolutely to have
Speaker 1: to be in a relationship. What's someone like you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean touring, being in a band, that's one thing.
Speaker 1: Just being a relationship with me period, I think could
Speaker 1: be tough, Um, But with all the added stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: one thing that I think that we have an advantage
Speaker 1: is that she was She knew me in college, We
Speaker 1: got to know each each other in college, became friends
Speaker 1: in college, start dating college. She's seen me go from
Speaker 1: a college student playing in coffee shops and bands in
Speaker 1: college to moving to Nashville, staying up, you know, talking
Speaker 1: all night about I don't know what I'm gonna do,
Speaker 1: I don't know how we're gonna, you know, complaining. She
Speaker 1: was there when we get the record deal. She's there
Speaker 1: when you get the publishing deal. She's there when you
Speaker 1: have first mixes, she's there when you everything that's happened.
Speaker 1: She's been there for so when when times are hard,
Speaker 1: she's kind of been through this journey with you. So
Speaker 1: she's she's really excited for me, she's really excited for
Speaker 1: the band, and she's been a part of our story,
Speaker 1: and so she knows how hard we've worked for it,
Speaker 1: and she knows how hard I've worked for it, and
Speaker 1: so there's just so much support. And so even when
Speaker 1: times are hard, when you're gone, you miss each other,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Um, I think because we've built
Speaker 1: such a foundation she's been a part of this. You'll
Speaker 1: go you're a little bit like, hi bright, let's go
Speaker 1: so low. I think you can do this, but not
Speaker 1: at all. No, Yeah, she wants to be in a
Speaker 1: duo and we're gonna that's that's the actually the next step.
Speaker 1: She she used to like she's a musical person, she
Speaker 1: can sing, but she's a teacher. So it's so good. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in trouble for saying that it's really
Speaker 1: good to date someone not in the same kind of industry.
Speaker 1: Is as I say that at the time of this recording,
Speaker 1: my girlfriends and artists. So it's it's grinding because we're
Speaker 1: both we're both in different pat it's solid that she
Speaker 1: has a foundation any job because you're nuts, right, and
Speaker 1: it's a nice balance. Yeah, And and teaching specifically, you know,
Speaker 1: it's cool because they get summers off and then breaks
Speaker 1: off and stuff. So she can trat like this summer,
Speaker 1: you know she can't. We played a lot of PLUSA.
Speaker 1: She can't do all of PLUSA and just different festivals
Speaker 1: like that. But then all so it's nice. There are
Speaker 1: things where if you were dating someone in the industry,
Speaker 1: I think it'd be cool because you guys could talk
Speaker 1: about you can talk about industry things, and there'd be
Speaker 1: you would understand it a little more than than a
Speaker 1: teacher might. But it is nice to get off the
Speaker 1: road and kind of have another life and kind of
Speaker 1: be able to take a break. And when she's talking
Speaker 1: about her day, I don't really have if she's talking
Speaker 1: about her classroom or lesson plans or another teacher, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, you know, I can just relax and listen.
Speaker 1: And it's as supposed where if she was like a
Speaker 1: songwriter or I'd be like, well, maybe you should and
Speaker 1: before you know what, you're now like trying to handle
Speaker 1: two careers. Um, but I mean I think that's cool.
Speaker 1: I think that you know, you're dating an artist. I
Speaker 1: think that'd be cool, you know, because you have then
Speaker 1: you have a major thing in common. I'm dating a
Speaker 1: good person. The artist thing. Artists are weird and and
Speaker 1: I say that, and we're both different kinds of artists.
Speaker 1: We we we create different things. We're nuts. You have
Speaker 1: to be nuts to do what we do. Yeah. Absolutely, Um,
Speaker 1: what what grade? Like? What age of the kids that
Speaker 1: she teaches? She's been all over the place. She used
Speaker 1: to do elementary then she did did middle school, and
Speaker 1: now she is doing high school. Oh dude, I bet
Speaker 1: the high school kids are like, all that would be.
Speaker 1: So she's a young high school teacher. She's actually fifty three,
Speaker 1: so that I'm talking about just kidding, got that November
Speaker 1: March romance, it's even longer. So okay, high school kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they probably think they got I mean she's
Speaker 1: not married, right, Yeah. Yeah. If I was in high school,
Speaker 1: i'd be like, I'm gonna get I'm I'm gonna yeah.
Speaker 1: Like did the high school dude a little bit flat
Speaker 1: with her? Oh? Absolutely? Oh yeah. Like and she she
Speaker 1: used to help coach cheerleading, so she would be at
Speaker 1: all the fou She's at a private school, so it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, you do everything. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: she she was a cheerleader in high school for like
Speaker 1: a year, so they're like, oh, help with cheerleading. It's
Speaker 1: more just she wasn't like the actual coach, just help out.
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, I would get to football games or
Speaker 1: basketball games. And oh yeah, those those seniors in high
Speaker 1: school there, as far as they're concerned, they're grown men,
Speaker 1: and you know, they got this like they're trying to
Speaker 1: look up with mis Lanko right now in Mislanko. What's
Speaker 1: that's funny? Man, So she's a high school teacher. Do
Speaker 1: you know the stuff that she teaches, because I feel
Speaker 1: like right now, I'd be so stupid with that the
Speaker 1: curriculum that's happening right now. I know, I know it's
Speaker 1: that's not it's so it's a world so far removed
Speaker 1: from mine that you know, she teaches English and she'll
Speaker 1: correct you, uh she has before, but it's not. She
Speaker 1: mainly does like papers and like you know, they'll read
Speaker 1: a book and do a book summary things like that.
Speaker 1: So it is I'm like, you know, she'll be grading
Speaker 1: all like look over her shoulder and see and she'll
Speaker 1: like correct something that sounds good to me, Like I'm
Speaker 1: a writer. I mean, who in the years that you
Speaker 1: guys have been doing this and you've been able to
Speaker 1: go out on the road with people like who are
Speaker 1: some of the uh they acts that you've seen? And man,
Speaker 1: that's really good because you see everybody in this town.
Speaker 1: It's such a You may look at Nashville from the
Speaker 1: outside to go it's a big city, but it's such
Speaker 1: a small town for such a big industry. So you
Speaker 1: get to see everybody at some point who have you
Speaker 1: seen you look at and you go, man, that's really good.
Speaker 1: That's how That's how I want to do. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: not exactly what I want to do, but that's how
Speaker 1: I want to do it. Yeah, I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean definitely, and we are talking about brothers. Osborne
Speaker 1: would definitely one, but other than them, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know this this summer it was really cool. We got
Speaker 1: to play a lot of festivals and so we got
Speaker 1: to see a lot of the huge you know a
Speaker 1: list people like Jason Alden and you know, I grew
Speaker 1: up with I knew Jason Alden since high school, you know,
Speaker 1: I I'm familiar with his music, but I've never seen
Speaker 1: him live. And it was so cool because, yeah, Lanko
Speaker 1: is not Jason Aldan and and that may not be
Speaker 1: what or who we are, but seeing him put on
Speaker 1: a show and the energy and the way he's communicating
Speaker 1: the audience and just being a ringleader that night of
Speaker 1: you know, just capitalizing on this opportunity where you have
Speaker 1: all these people and you're leading the charge of this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a great night. We're all in this together.
Speaker 1: Seeing him do it a lot. I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of the pros got you know, I got to see
Speaker 1: Luke brian Um people like that that you see how
Speaker 1: long they've been doing it. Miranda Lambert would be another one.
Speaker 1: You know, got to see her this summer. And and
Speaker 1: there's just a craft that they've mastered of and there's
Speaker 1: a reason they're up there. Yes, it's like that's when
Speaker 1: you realize, you know, the music good and they're right
Speaker 1: in that part of it's great, but there's a reason
Speaker 1: why they're they're up there on that stage in front
Speaker 1: of ten thousand twenty because they're so good. Keith Urban's
Speaker 1: that way for me. Like to watch Keith Urban play.
Speaker 1: You can hear songs are fantastic on the radio. He
Speaker 1: can come into my radio show and he's saying, is fantastic.
Speaker 1: To watch them play live, it's like a whole other
Speaker 1: dimension you get. You're like, okay, I get it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he should be Entertainer of the year. Then you go
Speaker 1: watch Karen like, okay, she should be entertaining. Then you
Speaker 1: got look like, okay, he should be Entertainer of the Year.
Speaker 1: So those guys that are at that level, they're there
Speaker 1: because they are so good at doing that right. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's something and we you can all no matter where
Speaker 1: you're at, you can always be learning. And we you know,
Speaker 1: this past year, we just we just absorbed everything because
Speaker 1: and we're a big live band, you know, our live show.
Speaker 1: We take a lot of pride in it, and and
Speaker 1: we love the live experience. We love people showing up
Speaker 1: and and just knowing that and that was one thing
Speaker 1: I learned, honestly all the way back working at bridge
Speaker 1: Stone was all these people are coming here. They all
Speaker 1: have jobs, they all may have had a hard week,
Speaker 1: they all may have problems in relationships, whatever it may be.
Speaker 1: But tonight is a big night. It's a special night
Speaker 1: that they're going to tell their friends about. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, that's like trip he saw. Jay's not even
Speaker 1: a sixteen and he still talks about it and it's
Speaker 1: so cool. You know. Bruce Springsteen, I heard a thing
Speaker 1: where he always, you know, will tell his band tonight
Speaker 1: could be somebody's first show and it could be somebody's last,
Speaker 1: so let's play like it. And knowing that you have
Speaker 1: this chance to impact people on a night and impact
Speaker 1: their lives and relate to them and sing these songs
Speaker 1: that it may be their anniversary song, or it may
Speaker 1: take them back to a time in college where it
Speaker 1: was them and all their friends. It's just such an
Speaker 1: honor to be able to to have that opportunity to
Speaker 1: to play in front of people like that, and seeing
Speaker 1: these people have been doing it for so long it
Speaker 1: have mastered it and still just go out. There was
Speaker 1: so much energy and are so captivating. It's it's really
Speaker 1: fun to watch. You know. One of my friends, and
Speaker 1: I don't use that word loosely, is Christian Bush from Sugarland,
Speaker 1: who is now doing stuff solo, but it's still they're
Speaker 1: still sugar Land. And so you know, at five seven,
Speaker 1: nine years ago, all those Sugarland was a list number one,
Speaker 1: f number one, playing stadiums Mana's whatever you wanna call them,
Speaker 1: you know, the big gigs, right, And I was talking
Speaker 1: to Christian because Christian came out and played with us
Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots, and he played guitar and just saying
Speaker 1: background and Christian, I've written a bunch together. We've written
Speaker 1: some some fun songs, goofy songs, you know, and so
Speaker 1: um it was that I was were what we were doing.
Speaker 1: We were playing dope Campbell Stadium we're playing Florida State University,
Speaker 1: and so it was US an old dominion of Tyler Farr,
Speaker 1: and Christian was playing guitar for us, and he's just
Speaker 1: doing it because he's a nice guys, just a good dude.
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey man, when and he goes,
Speaker 1: you know, I have actually played the stadium, you know,
Speaker 1: with sugar Land we played, And I was like, what
Speaker 1: is it like moving up? Going from clubs to bigger clubs,
Speaker 1: maybe theaters, then you start playing the arenas. He said,
Speaker 1: you know, it was a lot like I was so
Speaker 1: excited for those stadium arena shows. But when once you
Speaker 1: do them, he said, sometimes it sounds sucks. Sometimes the guitar.
Speaker 1: All right, he goes, it's kind of the same thing.
Speaker 1: It's always the same. And if you just practice in
Speaker 1: the smallest places at being the biggest you can be,
Speaker 1: and you condition your up to be that big all
Speaker 1: the way up and maintain it stays the same all
Speaker 1: the way through, because crap happens that at every state. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're making more money, but as an effect, how good
Speaker 1: you are, but at that point you should already be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that early on that was kind of
Speaker 1: our mentality. Like I said, we were playing restaurants because
Speaker 1: even playing a bar was tough. So a restaurant maybe
Speaker 1: like okay, you can play whatever you want for an
Speaker 1: hour and a half. You know, we have losing money early,
Speaker 1: a lot of bands losing gosh, yes, absolutely losing. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you would pay to play a gig, like as if
Speaker 1: you're going to drive to Chattanooger, drive to Atlanta or
Speaker 1: wherever it may be, or Indianapolis, they may throw your
Speaker 1: two d five hundred bucks. Well by the time you
Speaker 1: you pay for gas, or if you stay in a hotel,
Speaker 1: you're absolutely paying about a hundred two hundred bucks to
Speaker 1: play that show. But you're just doing it because one
Speaker 1: you're you're trying to get better, you're trying to kind
Speaker 1: of get your name out there. But a big part
Speaker 1: of it early on was we weren't playing great gigs.
Speaker 1: We weren't playing great venues. You know there we were
Speaker 1: happy to be there, but you know they weren't. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a theater, it wasn't a stadium, that wasn't a
Speaker 1: club even, And we recognized early on, if we don't
Speaker 1: go out there every night and just play the best,
Speaker 1: that we can and have fun and enjoy what we're
Speaker 1: doing and care that. You know what, there's only three
Speaker 1: people here, but this could be cool for them. This
Speaker 1: is you know, let's let's give them good music and
Speaker 1: play the best we can. If you don't do that,
Speaker 1: it'll get really old, really fast. Because it is it's
Speaker 1: microphones everything. It's the same microphones, same guitars, it's monitors,
Speaker 1: it's a stage, you know it a lot of it.
Speaker 1: You're going through the same thing. So if you are
Speaker 1: reminding yourself, like I get to be on stage and
Speaker 1: play music and I get to give this gift to
Speaker 1: people in the audience, then I think it could be
Speaker 1: a letdown. It could be this point. I think that
Speaker 1: people that have long careers, I think it's because they
Speaker 1: really do love it and they're in it because they
Speaker 1: love it because and they don't know how to do
Speaker 1: anything else. Because if you were just doing it to
Speaker 1: play the more people, and play the more people and
Speaker 1: get more, there's always gonna be another thing you're trying
Speaker 1: to get to. There's always it's like chasing money and
Speaker 1: the career world, the more you chase money, the less
Speaker 1: money you're actually going to make. For the most part
Speaker 1: you're if you chase passion, you're going to work harder
Speaker 1: at it. You're going to get better at it because
Speaker 1: you're working harder, and because you're getting better at it,
Speaker 1: then the money comes. And I think too, you know
Speaker 1: one thing in the band, when you travel a lot
Speaker 1: and you you play with all these other bands, it's
Speaker 1: weird when you start doing this professionally because there's literally
Speaker 1: a ranking system. I mean there's literally a chart and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you have the number whatever song, or
Speaker 1: you have the number or and then you're on the road,
Speaker 1: it's like, well they have a big fancy tour bus. Well,
Speaker 1: then once you get a tour bus, will they have
Speaker 1: multiple fancy tour buses and there's always a ladder to climb,
Speaker 1: and we'll we'll kind of just throw out this quote
Speaker 1: that's you know, don't worry about it. Comparison is the
Speaker 1: thief of joy because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: we're joyful just being able to make music and play music.
Speaker 1: And the second you start saying if you get a
Speaker 1: number one, we'll guess what, there's someone out there with
Speaker 1: three number ones you get three number ones, or someone
Speaker 1: out there with ten or twenty. If you're always looking
Speaker 1: at other people and comparing yourself. It'll rip away the
Speaker 1: joy from it and and it'll stop you from loving
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Let me ask you, this not awkward
Speaker 1: for me, Dad, I don't care. Yeah, you put out
Speaker 1: Long Left tonight. Okay. So the song comes out at
Speaker 1: your first major label single and where did the peak?
Speaker 1: I believe thirty two? Okay, So for all intentsive purposes,
Speaker 1: the single failed. If you're if you're comparing it by
Speaker 1: a chart standard, yes, and I and I I'm comparing
Speaker 1: it by whatever I's gonna say in radio world, which,
Speaker 1: trust me, I have issues with two. I'm in the
Speaker 1: radio and radio more than anybody. Which is so funny
Speaker 1: because it's like a normal person like if if you're
Speaker 1: like A had a top forty single, people like, oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, you're huge. But yeah, I know you're shooting
Speaker 1: for that number one or top ten or whatever it
Speaker 1: is or whatever it is. Yeah, So this song comes
Speaker 1: out when they call you and say, all right, this
Speaker 1: song is dead. We're not pushing it anymore. Who makes
Speaker 1: that call to you? Our management talk to us about it, like,
Speaker 1: and it was do you know what's coming? Yes? In
Speaker 1: a way, I mean, you wanted to do well, and
Speaker 1: obviously you have. Like I remember, it's funny because we
Speaker 1: we were learning all this last year. I mean a
Speaker 1: year ago, I wouldn't be able to talk about radio
Speaker 1: the way I could talk about it now. Charts and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. I knew what they were and you hear,
Speaker 1: like number one. I don't know, but how do you
Speaker 1: get a number one? I just I'm just putting out music.
Speaker 1: And you know, when you talk to your radio rep check,
Speaker 1: what's your like, what's your goal for this song? Like?
Speaker 1: Where do you there? Like number one? You're like, wait,
Speaker 1: a number and you realize there's the standard is the
Speaker 1: number one? That's and if it's not number one? So
Speaker 1: that was interesting for us to learn. But in our
Speaker 1: mindset releasing a single, we wanted it to reflect who
Speaker 1: we are. We wanted to have you height to think
Speaker 1: you're about to be a number one artist? Did did they?
Speaker 1: Did they have it in your head like you're gonna
Speaker 1: be a numb one artists? Trust us on this and
Speaker 1: you were like and you're like whoa And they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: it didn't make it. If they did, we weren't hyped.
Speaker 1: If they did. I think that their job is to
Speaker 1: be hyped into into work like it's got to be
Speaker 1: number one. We're just looking at is all right, you
Speaker 1: guys are gonna work the song. We're gonna play it,
Speaker 1: and we believe in the song and we're happy it's
Speaker 1: out there. If you're honest right now, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I most of I wouldn't believe that answer, but I
Speaker 1: feel like you're being honest right now about this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just weird. It just all happened like
Speaker 1: last year the song was just happy it's your first single.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what a radio tour is a
Speaker 1: year ago, and then you're on radio tour, you what
Speaker 1: you made, you on radio stations and playing in front
Speaker 1: of programming recordar right, and so we were you're doing
Speaker 1: all that. So we're honestly just trying to get through.
Speaker 1: And we were also were touring a lot last year.
Speaker 1: So we're playing shows. So if they're like, hey, you
Speaker 1: moved up the spot, where like great, we gotta go
Speaker 1: on stage and play like be honest with Me was
Speaker 1: long lived tonight in your mind? I failure? Yes or no?
Speaker 1: No it was not because was it a success? Yes,
Speaker 1: the way that I would look at it. I really
Speaker 1: think it was a success because, first of all, when
Speaker 1: we're looking at our first single, we're wanting an accurate
Speaker 1: representation of us. Who is land Co? What is land Co?
Speaker 1: What's the vibe, what's the style like? And when you're
Speaker 1: looking at a year that's an election year, you're looking
Speaker 1: at all the stuff that's going on, You're looking at
Speaker 1: people in social media and all the distractions that are
Speaker 1: around us. I wanted a song that came out first
Speaker 1: that accurately represented who we are, both musically and lyrically.
Speaker 1: And also we're gonna play a lot of live shows,
Speaker 1: we're playing festivals. I wanted an anthemic song that people
Speaker 1: could rally around because ultimately that's what we want Landco
Speaker 1: to be. So to have a song that goes out there,
Speaker 1: and I mean it had you know, it got up
Speaker 1: to I think near eighteen million streams on Spotify, So
Speaker 1: that's very playlisted. It is playlisted, not to hate on
Speaker 1: your no and there, I mean there there are instances
Speaker 1: where you look, I've looked. It's funny because I'll look
Speaker 1: at playlisting and I'll look at an artist that had
Speaker 1: number one and they'll have like seven million streams and
Speaker 1: be on the playlist, and then we're in the thirties
Speaker 1: and have eight million And although there is playlisting, at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, for me, it's not about like, oh,
Speaker 1: eighteen million went and loved our song. That means it
Speaker 1: was played eighteen million times, which means that that message
Speaker 1: that we cared about and we wanted people to hear
Speaker 1: it got out there. And you know what, getting in
Speaker 1: the thirties, people heard it on the radio. When we
Speaker 1: played these festivals, people are singing it. You know, if
Speaker 1: we play a club show, a couple hundred people come
Speaker 1: out there singing the song. So for us to have
Speaker 1: a first year on the road, first single at radio,
Speaker 1: we had never in our lives had people sing a
Speaker 1: song with us. We're just trying someone knows something that
Speaker 1: you yeah, and and so for us to know that
Speaker 1: a year ago, no one could sing one word of
Speaker 1: a song unless we're playing Sweet Caroline or Sweet Caroline. Dude.
Speaker 1: Once again, once again, if I wrote that song, we
Speaker 1: once again we beat my house in in my and
Speaker 1: on the top of the hill. Um yet John Richards
Speaker 1: House right exactly, but we uh so it was of us,
Speaker 1: so you it was not a failure to you know,
Speaker 1: it was a lot of time. It's not a failure.
Speaker 1: It was not a failure. That's because most first thing goes.
Speaker 1: I don't even get the thirties right right. I was
Speaker 1: gonna gonna pressure hard on that, and whatever you said
Speaker 1: to the truth, everybody has their own truth. I just
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think if you're really an artist
Speaker 1: and you care about your art and you care about
Speaker 1: your songs, yes you wanted to be successful in the charts,
Speaker 1: but that can't be the measure. That's that can't be
Speaker 1: the way that you measure whether the song was successful
Speaker 1: or not, because you gotta eat. Okay, if you're talking
Speaker 1: about like monetary, like did it buy me as many
Speaker 1: meals at a restaurant as a number? One? Would have? No,
Speaker 1: it did not. But did people hear it? Did it?
Speaker 1: I mean we would have. I've had people after the
Speaker 1: show come up and be like, when you started playing
Speaker 1: Long Live Tonight, my friend I started crying because we're
Speaker 1: graduating college and that's been our college anthem. That one
Speaker 1: story right there, the songs of success. I mean, as
Speaker 1: an artist, you're very much an artist. I feel like
Speaker 1: you could just go and write songs and be an
Speaker 1: artist to be cool and happy. And I didn't believe
Speaker 1: that at first. I too, you're too pretty. I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: trust me, I've been writing songs and not having any
Speaker 1: success at all for a long time and been happy.
Speaker 1: So it's at this point in life it's kind of
Speaker 1: I hope to always keep that. But and trust me,
Speaker 1: I want success. I want if you have a number one,
Speaker 1: that means way more people have heard it and you're impacting.
Speaker 1: But to me, even the number one just means more
Speaker 1: people are hearing it, so more people have the chance
Speaker 1: to understand you and know you and then come out
Speaker 1: to a show and then you get to give them
Speaker 1: the full thing. So that that's kind of the way
Speaker 1: that I I look at it. Very interesting. Let me
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Speaker 1: Like if you walk on my kitchen, I saw, like,
Speaker 1: literally it's in there. You're not lying, I have I'm
Speaker 1: not lying because they sent it in a box. It
Speaker 1: comes and all the ingredients are there and you could
Speaker 1: like cook for your Do you love your girlfriend not?
Speaker 1: You've been together six Let's maybe it's religion. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know the deal to do you bet together
Speaker 1: six years? Yes, I still talking about boy aprim but
Speaker 1: I'm post you've been together six years. She's got to
Speaker 1: be kind of pushing you a bit, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we we have to we have the talks about making
Speaker 1: We've definitely not just talks. We've had very serious talks
Speaker 1: about that next stage in our relationship because we're not
Speaker 1: We both wanted it was a thing where too, when
Speaker 1: you're an artist, I don't think that I could afford
Speaker 1: to live in a shoe box with my girlfriend up
Speaker 1: until even a year ago. So now it's just like okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she's a teacher, she's a good job,
Speaker 1: but it's so yeah, it's you know, my life has
Speaker 1: changed the past year year and a half, which means
Speaker 1: that we could have more talks. I'm like, I lived
Speaker 1: with my parents for like two years here because I
Speaker 1: was making no money from music, and so when you're
Speaker 1: like living with your parents and and what I hope
Speaker 1: so what okay, and I hope it works out. I've
Speaker 1: never bet it right. I'm sure it will. It will
Speaker 1: to deal with someone who and I felt like in
Speaker 1: the last hour of us talking, I can tell that
Speaker 1: you're you're an artist person. There are there are performers,
Speaker 1: there are artists, there are musicians, and they're all the same,
Speaker 1: but they're really not. An artist likes a full representation
Speaker 1: of them and they don't really focus on the accolades
Speaker 1: that come with it. They just want that product to
Speaker 1: be pure because it makes them feel pure. That's what
Speaker 1: I felt from you. Through talking to you. Would just
Speaker 1: said that's accurate. That is accurate, and too it's trust me.
Speaker 1: I want I want lots of people to know about Lanco.
Speaker 1: I want Lando to be absolutely huge. I would love
Speaker 1: to be a huge success, but if that's going to happen,
Speaker 1: I want everyone to be on the same page. I
Speaker 1: want the fans. If you have fans of audience, you
Speaker 1: want them. You want to feel like you all have
Speaker 1: a common thread, which is this music. And so I
Speaker 1: absolutely I want huge things for Lanco. I literally want
Speaker 1: to be the biggest band there is in country music.
Speaker 1: But if it's going to happen, I wanted to happen.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to sleep and not I
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Speaker 1: Those are the people I know. So I know Ryan,
Speaker 1: so listen to his right. Are a lot of light
Speaker 1: dude in the approach of just like I just want
Speaker 1: my good next to be in the environment I want
Speaker 1: to do the bet and Ryan are a lot of
Speaker 1: like in that way. You look alike like I'm telling
Speaker 1: you looking at you, I'm like, look at this little
Speaker 1: pretty boy. Come on, you gonna talk about some girls.
Speaker 1: I need to grow my hair out, and kind of
Speaker 1: jesus Us. Ryan looks like you know Jesus, And it's
Speaker 1: a good Ryan's a good Brian's a good one. Who
Speaker 1: about you here? Hid In Preston from Local, which that's
Speaker 1: a good dude. I literally Trip and I listened to
Speaker 1: and Trip text him and I got a text h
Speaker 1: because I I did not know their story. I thought
Speaker 1: it was so cool to hear just how hard talk
Speaker 1: about working hard and sticking with it and and uh
Speaker 1: believing what you're doing enough to stay with it that
Speaker 1: long through all the hardships. I was really inspired by it.
Speaker 1: Success is not about getting it right. Success is about
Speaker 1: continuing after you get it wrong. M Yeah, that's it,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get it wrong five hundred breaking times,
Speaker 1: and every time you get it wrong, you learn a
Speaker 1: little something else until you learn just enough to get
Speaker 1: it right. And do you have the ability do you
Speaker 1: have the fortitude to continue hanging through all the misses
Speaker 1: to collect all of this knowledge and experience and then
Speaker 1: put out American Love Story? Because that's what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: to my friend. I'm telling you, I got a little
Speaker 1: thing called the ear right in my air. Likes American
Speaker 1: Love Story. I think it's a good thing. It's a
Speaker 1: good song for you guys, like the whole thing, like
Speaker 1: the song for radio, for the whole I hope. So
Speaker 1: because I'm excited about it. Tis a long long time
Speaker 1: is fine? I mean, liss none play it. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fine. I like you guys, and I thought you
Speaker 1: guys were good and I and I told you guys that.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, you guys are good. I gott
Speaker 1: watch you playing, like, Hey, it's really good. Not that
Speaker 1: long love times? Fine? Yeah, American love Story. And I
Speaker 1: wouldn't lie, I wouldn't be it. Why don't I care? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we well we just warmed you up then for American
Speaker 1: Lives Stay here. So what's the deal? Now you're out
Speaker 1: back back up planned tomorrow, you're back out in New
Speaker 1: Orleans with brothers Osborne Man. Well, is that American Lotores?
Speaker 1: Is that gonna be the radio It's gonna be the
Speaker 1: next radio song, right, Yeah, it's the next single. Did
Speaker 1: I know that? Or did I just hope that? I
Speaker 1: don't even know that I knew that. I think you
Speaker 1: hope that along with everyone else maybe, and so, but
Speaker 1: it is, it's it was decide. I mean, it's we've
Speaker 1: all been wanting that and pushing for that for a
Speaker 1: long time. It's not the single right now, there's not that.
Speaker 1: You don't have a single right now? Do you know?
Speaker 1: We haven't had an AD date yet for so I
Speaker 1: think I was just hoping it. Well, your hopes came
Speaker 1: true just for you. I'm a fan. I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of UM and you guys are good, Thank you very much, man.
Speaker 1: And so in the land of a lot of good
Speaker 1: stuff you get you know when you're a band and
Speaker 1: it's rare now you know, UM not a lot of bands. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's trust me. I'm I'm honored to being a band.
Speaker 1: I'm really happy that I'm in a band because it's
Speaker 1: such a different dynamic and it's such a cool dynamic,
Speaker 1: and it's it's and it's a cool dynamic to bring
Speaker 1: to country music. That You're right, there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of so I'm I'm proud of being a band. Every
Speaker 1: fifth fought with anyone in the band. No, we there's
Speaker 1: been a some definite you know, confrontations that needs to
Speaker 1: be though. Yeah, it's a relation. It's like a marriage, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and that's I think, you know, we actually there was
Speaker 1: a time. It's funny, Yeah, you got the infatuation stage.
Speaker 1: Then you go to that stage where everyone's getting on
Speaker 1: your nerves. And when you work through that and you
Speaker 1: learn how what kind of how everyone ticks and what
Speaker 1: everyone's strengths and weaknesses are, then you kind of learned
Speaker 1: what buttons not to push. And and if someone says
Speaker 1: something that maybe a few years ago you would have
Speaker 1: like reacted to and picked a fight, you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: that's just the way, that's how he said, that's how
Speaker 1: he handles that. Or or if someone handles the situation
Speaker 1: a certain way that you do not agree with or
Speaker 1: you would not do it that way, you kind of
Speaker 1: und sstandable. That's how they are, and you come to
Speaker 1: terms with that. I think that also there was strength
Speaker 1: we have and one reason that five guys we could
Speaker 1: stick together for so long. We do all have very
Speaker 1: different personalities we have, I mean, all five of us.
Speaker 1: If they were all guys like me, I think we
Speaker 1: would kill each other. If they were all guys like Trip. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they're all guys like Chandler, I don't know if
Speaker 1: they would kill each other. They might just like never
Speaker 1: talk to each other. He's the quiet, passive one. Have
Speaker 1: you seen all four of the other guys naked? Uh?
Speaker 1: Like totally naked? It's just me, I'm sure naked. Have
Speaker 1: you seen all of their genitalia? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Who'd gonna tell you? Have you not seen? Uh? Jared
Speaker 1: work on that and Eric s you I'll work on
Speaker 1: that tonight. Actually, just I'm just saying, you know, we're
Speaker 1: on the wether a lot. I've seen. That's balls as
Speaker 1: part of it. You're just in a close starry You're
Speaker 1: just in places you're tight and changing. See, we like
Speaker 1: to keep some mystery. That's a thing, like you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we don't want to We're gonna be together long time,
Speaker 1: so we don't want to give it all the way
Speaker 1: too early. That funny. Well, listen, good luck to you guys. Man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming by the house. Thank you. Thanks
Speaker 1: for having me. Man. Look, we kind of know each other,
Speaker 1: but not well enough to where like I'm pretty much
Speaker 1: a stranger coming over to your house. So thank you
Speaker 1: for inviting me, because I did peek in your bedroom
Speaker 1: and I could be totally crazy. Still anything wrong. You've
Speaker 1: got some nice guitars, I mean like they're tempting. You
Speaker 1: do have nice guitars. Man. Thanks, I've been I've been lucky.
Speaker 1: I've you know, I've got some cool, some cool signed ones. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You're left handed though, and have some cool ones that
Speaker 1: I pull. Yeah. It's what sucks for me is I'm
Speaker 1: left handed and I can't play anybody else's guitar. And
Speaker 1: that sucks because if I'm like, hey, I want to
Speaker 1: play something, I can't. Yeah, But what sucks for everybody
Speaker 1: else has they come over and I don't have any
Speaker 1: right hand of guitars. Yeah, I sund like guitar downstairs
Speaker 1: about picking up. I was like, oh, never mind, it's
Speaker 1: it's they're wrong. Yeah, so yeah, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: who who else plays left handed? Uh? Hendrick? But he
Speaker 1: played the Stranger still flipped. Yeah, so um, Maddie and
Speaker 1: Tay Tay plays left handed, Chase Bryant plays left handed?
Speaker 1: Who else? Might you say, Kurt, We're very similar, curtain,
Speaker 1: I are, yeah, pretty much the same thing. Does Paul
Speaker 1: McCartney played the bass left hand? He'd right? He does
Speaker 1: you ever read? You ever see it like and read?
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of music you like? Like
Speaker 1: just you? Um, but you ever like the study the
Speaker 1: Beatles and now they would have played like six hours
Speaker 1: a night in Germany. Oh yeah, yeah, they would play
Speaker 1: for hours night. I saw one thing where this manager
Speaker 1: came out early on to see them play and passed
Speaker 1: on him. He's either manager or someone that wanted to
Speaker 1: sign them and passed on him because he was like,
Speaker 1: this whole electric guitar thing is a phase and big
Speaker 1: band music is a coming back. And it's like, man
Speaker 1: to be that guy and think you missed out on
Speaker 1: the Beatles. You know, everybody though, the biggest act were
Speaker 1: all passed on at some point, and it's Luke was
Speaker 1: passed on. I mean everybody everybody was paying. Everybody had
Speaker 1: failed singles like Yeah, I've talked to Luke many times,
Speaker 1: even off the year, Um, Luke and I are friendly.
Speaker 1: Off there would say it's a friend, but we're friendly.
Speaker 1: There's there are stages with me. I try to stay
Speaker 1: away from artists like personal so I can be objective
Speaker 1: and say things like long list to Night was just fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it well, No matter what, I still want
Speaker 1: you to say that if a song is fine, I
Speaker 1: want you to say, no matter how good friends we become,
Speaker 1: if we have a fine song, please say it's fine,
Speaker 1: because we need honesty. I would just not say anything
Speaker 1: that would be that would be like, no, say it's fine. Man.
Speaker 1: So with if you look at failed singles like crazy,
Speaker 1: like crazy and he and people pass on on Mike Crazy.
Speaker 1: So my point was I have no point. Let's do
Speaker 1: this quickly. Take everyone out of country music from your
Speaker 1: answer that you're not allowed to answer anything country. Okay,
Speaker 1: So three artists that you love that aren't country that
Speaker 1: are alive right now? Who are alive? Um? Do you
Speaker 1: know Jason Isabel with that Countess country? You can say
Speaker 1: whatever you want. There's not a referee here. I would
Speaker 1: say Okay, well you said not countries, but he's kind
Speaker 1: of but he's like in that folk American Mary, I
Speaker 1: would say it's American who love Jason Isabel uh seeing
Speaker 1: him a couple of times. The ryman um Ryan Adams
Speaker 1: uh Art, you're an art, dude, I mean like Ryan
Speaker 1: Adams is pure art. I mean that's that's an art
Speaker 1: and you love them or you're you don't get it,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I don't. Sometimes I don't get Ryan Adams,
Speaker 1: but sometimes I love it. Yeah, and then that's that's
Speaker 1: the thing with me. It's like as long as even
Speaker 1: with artists like that, there are things I don't get either,
Speaker 1: but you're more forgiving when you really love them as
Speaker 1: an artist. You're like, that's not speaking to me, but
Speaker 1: I know that this artist has the ability to as
Speaker 1: opposed to just act where you're like, oh, I like
Speaker 1: some of those songs, and if there's not a song
Speaker 1: you like, then you're done. You're like, whatever, I don't
Speaker 1: like that song. It's also the people that take chances
Speaker 1: I admire in respect, even if I don't like the
Speaker 1: chance they took. Yeah, yeah, totally absolutely, And you know
Speaker 1: who is an artist? And I want one more before
Speaker 1: I before I want to, I mean another artist, it's
Speaker 1: not in country that you're like, Okay, Um, you know
Speaker 1: I like cold Play. I've seen them freaking awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they they're that's one, you know, Ryan Adams, Jason's
Speaker 1: Bill are more. Yeah, they're more artsy and more you know,
Speaker 1: kind of more cold Play was artsy than when they
Speaker 1: came out Super arts. So I love cold Plays combination
Speaker 1: of the arts nests and the authenticity, but also their
Speaker 1: live show is what I would want out of the
Speaker 1: live show. And they're so I mean, they're so entertaining
Speaker 1: and so charismatic on stage and so captivating. So those
Speaker 1: would be my three guy called play So good. Yes,
Speaker 1: every part of them is so good. Like Chris Martin's
Speaker 1: a nut, by the way, and I've met chrismartin a
Speaker 1: couple of times. He's nuts. He's really nice, he's nuts.
Speaker 1: But to be an artist, you're nuts, like I said earlier,
Speaker 1: and in our profession you realize that too, that to
Speaker 1: be super creative, you have got to have something inside
Speaker 1: of you that's different than everyone else. And when you're
Speaker 1: different than everyone else, you're different than everyone else. And
Speaker 1: it's tough, and I think that if you're like that,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm just so thankful to be an artist,
Speaker 1: because I've always kind of known I was different than
Speaker 1: everyone else. But when you actually it's your job to
Speaker 1: be different everyone else and you're responsible for it, it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of captivating. It's it's freeing from this talk here,
Speaker 1: and I'll go to Mike d for his thoughts in
Speaker 1: a second too. I don't really know I was getting
Speaker 1: into it this. Frankly, I was like, yeah, I'll bring
Speaker 1: her up and talk to him. Um, but I don't
Speaker 1: like I there's an artist element that I respect more
Speaker 1: about the band now, thank you. Then just like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's make a man and put out some songs. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You can't trick me either, because I'm amazing. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you see that sniff out the bull crap. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a joke. Yeah, and that's I'm
Speaker 1: glad you see that. That's one of the biggest things
Speaker 1: we talked about that and that's we try and do
Speaker 1: video series stuff. We were to get across that, dude,
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm telling you, don't waste your
Speaker 1: time with it. Just put out good songs and your
Speaker 1: fans will then find it and then everyone like Coldplay,
Speaker 1: do you think people knew it first? It took years
Speaker 1: first to figure it out. Don't focus on that because
Speaker 1: nobody cares. Also, nobody cares, like really nobody cares. Man
Speaker 1: give them a song, they find the song, they learn
Speaker 1: more about you to give him another song. They learned.
Speaker 1: Then you have fans like really, so and we've accepted,
Speaker 1: we've accepted, you know what what our path is and
Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. It's gonna take time. It's
Speaker 1: gonna take work because it is. It is. It's you
Speaker 1: have a relationship with your fans, and there's that first
Speaker 1: stage like the first singles, connect, the first date. Then
Speaker 1: you know, if you have a hit, that's kind of
Speaker 1: like and you just keep moving along, and it takes
Speaker 1: an album or two for people to really understand and
Speaker 1: really I mean, and I think artists keep evolving and
Speaker 1: it really is a relationship with fans, and but it
Speaker 1: takes a while. I think when you take that app
Speaker 1: that does take off for people to figure out who
Speaker 1: you are and then people really love who you are
Speaker 1: and stay with you. But if you do that, I
Speaker 1: think that then there's more longevity because your fans that
Speaker 1: are not just like, oh, I love that song. It's cool,
Speaker 1: it's catchy, it's I really love Land. I appreciate them.
Speaker 1: I like to work, you know whatever it is, um,
Speaker 1: but it's gotta start with just yeah, you're right. Put
Speaker 1: out some songs. People like them to listen, and nobody
Speaker 1: fell in love with could play because of their art.
Speaker 1: They fell in love with Yellow was freaking off exactly.
Speaker 1: You gotta trust me. I know you gotta have hit.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that, you gotta have it. It's
Speaker 1: the name. Uh, we're run out of time. But who's
Speaker 1: in your class of artists? Not classes and good or bad?
Speaker 1: But you guys kind of came into this earth together
Speaker 1: of music signing at the same time, like a few
Speaker 1: artists could they could have many hits and then but
Speaker 1: who do you consider to be in your class? Well,
Speaker 1: you know Maren she signed like right around the same
Speaker 1: time we did. Now she has just exploded. She's coming
Speaker 1: in next week. Yeah, she's she's awesome. We signed. You
Speaker 1: never heard of her? She she signed at the same time,
Speaker 1: But I would I mean, we signed, and then we
Speaker 1: took a while to actually get things. Give me some answers.
Speaker 1: Same class Maren Ryan. I would consider Ryan heard, Kane Brown,
Speaker 1: Jordan reagor uh like Brooke Eden. I'm thinking of people
Speaker 1: that were like on radio to the same time. That's
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm asking for. So in five years we're
Speaker 1: gonna be like we were in the same because all
Speaker 1: the guys are in different class. You know that the
Speaker 1: Cole and Tyler farrs that you know, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys that kind of came up together
Speaker 1: the things that I was talking about earlier. I just
Speaker 1: want to mention this before we get off of this,
Speaker 1: is that when I was talking about artists, what I
Speaker 1: appreciate is people that go and take chances and being
Speaker 1: okay with failure as long as they took the shot
Speaker 1: that felt good and felt right to them. He didn't
Speaker 1: listen to a lot of people going, hey, this isn't
Speaker 1: gonna work on the radio. And who's done that recently
Speaker 1: and without commercial success to this point is Aubrey Sellers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm a big fan of her record. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: never I've never maybe i've seen her, I have that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen her. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's there alive. But I love a record because nobody
Speaker 1: else it's it's a full like country, bluegrass blues record.
Speaker 1: They're no acoustics, no doubt about it. It's a country record,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like nothing else. And you know what,
Speaker 1: it could fall on its face and no wake aby it,
Speaker 1: or it could really switch up an entire format. It's
Speaker 1: that kind of thing totally. The fact that she puts
Speaker 1: herself out there to fail makes me love it. I
Speaker 1: love failure. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's it's just
Speaker 1: and it's more interesting than just someone who even if
Speaker 1: it works, it's like that you just don't want to
Speaker 1: be a carbon copy of something. You don't want to
Speaker 1: be like so and so Junior. You know, if there's
Speaker 1: a floor, you don't want to be Florger's line, Junior L.
Speaker 1: We definitely definitely don't want Flora Georgia line first, like pease,
Speaker 1: God go ahead. But that's I think as an artist,
Speaker 1: if you're an artist, it's like you want to work
Speaker 1: and you want to be successful. Yes, you want everyone
Speaker 1: to love you know who you are, but if you're
Speaker 1: gonna do what you wanted to be because your original
Speaker 1: and you offered something that other people weren't offering and
Speaker 1: so yeah, and aubrus Sellers absolutely does that. I have
Speaker 1: decided you are the Chris Martin country music to this right,
Speaker 1: I'll take it a little weird. You can sing, you're
Speaker 1: passionate about it, like it all right. Good to see you, man,
Speaker 1: Good to see you. Thank you so much for having
Speaker 1: men you download American Love Story down download it. He's
Speaker 1: on those streams. That's that's all. It's like Facebook do
Speaker 1: metric full of craphic. But I'm glad you have much
Speaker 1: stream it right downloaded. That's where the key is. I
Speaker 1: agree downloading. If you love an artist, download their music,
Speaker 1: because I agree those real money. You know. You guys
Speaker 1: gotta eat. Yeah, you gotta eat, and you gotta have
Speaker 1: money for the next record. Oh that's like it's fifty
Speaker 1: million straight. Yeah, all right. Any questions, Ran, We've you've
Speaker 1: been listening for? How long after that first meeting with
Speaker 1: Jay did you quit your Bridge Stone job? Um? A
Speaker 1: few months? Uh? Well I quit when he finally I
Speaker 1: started riding with him and some other people for a
Speaker 1: few months and then he said, hey, you guys ready
Speaker 1: to come in here and make a record next week.
Speaker 1: That was how much notice we had. We were like sure,
Speaker 1: Like how long I'm gonna be in the studios? Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll stay in here until it's done. But
Speaker 1: two weeks, three weeks with it, so we all kind
Speaker 1: of could. You can't ask for three weeks off work.
Speaker 1: We all kind of lost our jobs after that. That's
Speaker 1: why you have You have those jobs, you can lose them.
Speaker 1: What were you making a bridge stone? You're working at
Speaker 1: that wage like says uh seven eight bucks an hour
Speaker 1: and free hot dogs you got the end of the
Speaker 1: night there and yeah, and I know you got one
Speaker 1: free hot dog when if you wanted. And in the
Speaker 1: night after they counted what you didn't sell, you could
Speaker 1: have a burger. Whatever you didn't sell. Was well, it
Speaker 1: wasn't really a fair game, but it kind of was,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, what are they gonna do
Speaker 1: with it? Yea, and by law they can't donate it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have to throw it out right. They donated to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll barely got donation, Mike. One more question is anything
Speaker 1: else you want to ask? How do you feel about it?
Speaker 1: You go, what do you think? I think this guy's
Speaker 1: he can't hear us? You think there's full of craping?
Speaker 1: Think I'm gonna put him back here, Okay, put it back. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: good to see you. Good to see you, man, think
Speaker 1: so much. Download go see Lanko is that was going
Speaker 1: to the river one piece of advice. Really good as
Speaker 1: you get a hit solo. Hope my bands shout. All
Speaker 1: these other guys did the guys. I like you guys,
Speaker 1: Thank you man, but I'm only about four of you, right,
Speaker 1: we gotta find the missing link. I don't. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the weird. Last time I tell you guys outside the
Speaker 1: hotel inside like the Hilton. Yeah, it's freezing cold, whiting
Speaker 1: on our car. Yeah, I was like CRUs or whatever.
Speaker 1: It was something like it was real brief. We were
Speaker 1: like trying to say hi, but yeah, we were all
Speaker 1: freezing and it was like yeah, good good bye. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time. I have thirty is over.
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Speaker 1: especially that one. We'll see. We'll see you guys next time. Thanks.
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