1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: All right, welcome episode thirty to the Bobby Cast, our 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: first one after the break. By the way, Mike d 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: welcome back right yet before there you good, buddy, I'm good. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: Good to see you again extime, I see every day. Uh. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: Today we have brand in, the late singer of a 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 1: Lanco here. Hey, Brandon, what is up? Man? You've been 7 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: adjusting your chair. The difference in this and any other 8 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: interview that you'll ever do in your whole life. These 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: are the most comfortable chairs. They are. You just sit 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: back and relax. Wait about eighteen nineteen minutes you'll start crying. 11 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:34,880 Speaker 1: You won't even notice it. I know that's the problem. 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm too comfortable. All about getting comfortable, 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: ready to watch a movie. But have a drink of this. 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Don't look at what I dropped inside of it. Brandon's 15 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: here from a Lanco. And before we talk about stuff, 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: I want to play a little bit of Lanko because 17 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: you guys are considered brand new artists. So if you 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: haven't heard in the Atlanto's music, there's a little long 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: lived tonight, crazy baby baby, don't be scared. When you 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: got me, we can sit each other. There's a little 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: song called American love story the River, You go be 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: my wife. We didn't know any better. I didn't have clomb. 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: That was what you wanted. You want to need it 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 1: and we can meet him Twain, We're gonna be the 25 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: greatest love story is t sing. That's your best song, 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 1: by the way, And we know each other a bit. 27 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: A lot of people can. I've never met him before. 28 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm just like, hey, you know, come in out of 29 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: your story. I guess we've met a couple of times. Yeah, briefly, yeah, briefly, 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: but but we've met and you guys are you guys 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 1: are pretty young? Huh? We are young? Yeah? We uh 32 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: are each we are thirteen, Um, we're we're all twenties. 33 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: The we range from twenty four to twenty seven, So 34 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: meeting aid somewhere mid twenties. I guess. So Lanco is 35 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: a combination of a couple of words, right, isn't it? 36 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's a lancastering company. Yeah. From what I remember, 37 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: somebody worked there and that's where you guys like practiced 38 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: they got together. Yeah, well, why so the band name 39 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: comes from my name is Branda Lancaster. So I uh 40 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: so you know that's not like warehouse. There is a 41 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: warehouse in the story, but it's not not Lancaster. Um 42 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: my name is Branda Lancaster. So you know, early days 43 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: in Nashville, and uh, well, I'm trying to think how 44 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: far to go back. I met Tripp, who's the drummer 45 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: in Lanco and he worked at a carpet warehouse, and 46 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: uh I met him in Chattanoga, Tennessee. I was going 47 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: to school out there and we both played a music 48 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: festival there in different bands. And I'm from Nashville. Originally, 49 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: I grew up outside of Nashville that you know here 50 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: that is oh, I know, which is fun. I didn't 51 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: know that was rare until because when you grow up here, 52 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: everyone's from here. I grew up in Smyrna South in Nashville, 53 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: and uh yeah, we grew up here. Everyone's from here. 54 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: And then I went to school and when I came back, 55 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, started making new friends and meeting people, and 56 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: everyone would ask where I was from. And that question 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: was so strange to me because I was like, I'm yeah, 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: where are you from? And they're always a good from here. 59 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, where are you from? What are you doing? 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: More people aren't from here. Oh, especially in the business 61 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: that we're in. Absolutely. Yeah, more like people aren't from 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: here from I know, I've met very few people that 63 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: are from here. Um. But yeah, but I went to 64 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: school in Chattanooga. So when I moved back, Tripp was 65 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: moving to Nashville the same week I was. So, you know, 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I I've been writing songs, I mean virtually in my 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: whole life. And uh and and so I told me 68 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 1: I have the slew of songs and I want to 69 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: put a band together, and kind of gave me the 70 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: idea and and so we put it to get you know, 71 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: my name is Brena Lancaster. So it started as you know, 72 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: Lancaster and and something, and we thought we'd build a 73 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: band arount around. Let me ask you about that. Let 74 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: me stop you for a second, because I always thought, 75 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: you know, all the guys in Dave Matthews band, m 76 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: Dave Matthews band, like Dave matthewss band, bon Jovi, John 77 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: bon Jovi, nobody else's name Van Halen, Yeah, I got 78 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: a couple of Van Hammon. Bro you know what, how 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: come is it? Because you're the one that came up 80 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: with the idea, and he was just cool with it 81 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: because the last name is not company, is it. Yeah? Uh, 82 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: it actually is. No, it's not um Yeah, we were 83 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: duos Lancaskop. No. It was I think the way it started, 84 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 1: you know, at first, like he was in a different 85 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: band and I had written a bunch of songs. It 86 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: was the thing where I could have done a solo 87 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: project if I wanted to, I could have just you know, 88 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: made it mine and and hired guys out. And you know, 89 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: I kind of had a revolving door, which is what 90 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: happened Nashville lot and early on that's kind of what 91 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: I thought might happen, you know, because I had these 92 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: songs and you just don't know how long you're gonna 93 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: keep a guitar player a bass player because everyone's working 94 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: and has to you know, kind of go where the 95 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: money is sometimes. But early on it was, you know, 96 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: this thing where I I wrote these songs, but I 97 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: want to build a band around it. I did look 98 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: at Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, and I did look 99 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: at at Dave Matthews band where there is a primary 100 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: songwriter and there's this guy that came with the songs, 101 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: but there's a band around it that makes it unique. 102 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: And has its own sound. And when you keep those 103 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: same guys together, like even like a Zach Brown band, 104 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: you know it has a unique sound because they've had time. 105 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: The same guys have had time to craft that sound 106 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: and and and build what they're doing, and and also 107 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: go through hard time together, go through great times together, 108 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: um and and so early on, I didn't know what 109 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: it would look like, you know, I didn't know if 110 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: it would be a band band or if it would 111 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: be this Zach Brown band or Dave Matthews band, and 112 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: guys might come in and come out, and you keep 113 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: hiring and you keep adding people. I didn't know at 114 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 1: all what it would look like. I just knew we 115 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: had Lancaster and then if Tripp wanted to be in 116 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: this band, we could have a company and start building it. 117 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: And that was also where the name change kind of 118 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: came though, was when we shortened it. It was because 119 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: it was the same guys for for a long time, 120 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: and you know, we had gone a year and then 121 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: we had just all become friends. We're all right, this 122 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: is a band, so but people know it's is Lancastering Company. 123 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: But let's shorten it to more of a band name 124 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: kind of sound selfless thing because Landco does not sound 125 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 1: like random like guys, right, it doesn't. So it's selfless 126 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: thing to make that move to go Lanco, because if 127 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: it were me, I'd have been like, we're gonna call 128 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: ourselves brand Caster, We're gonna change the name to brand 129 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 1: so every but you know, I think that's uh that 130 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: you two together. Well what the other two guys come 131 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: from though? So there it's a five piece altogether. So 132 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: I so Trip and I were jamming and which one 133 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: of you guys do I not know? Then? You I've 134 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: never met all five of you at once. I don't 135 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: think it's the one that you don't like, because that's 136 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: the one I haven't met. Um who probably I mean 137 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: probably Tripped, like even though you've met him at now, 138 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm kidding Tripping. Our best friends and obviously have the 139 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: most history together. But we yeah, there's five us all together. 140 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: And we had you know, Trip myself, and we literally 141 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: would just sit and he played drums and I played guitar, 142 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: and it's like, man, we need more instruments. Um, and 143 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: so we Uh, I met this guys songwriting competition that 144 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 1: went to mts U and we start talking. I was like, 145 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm putting this band together, do you know any guitar players? 146 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: Let's start there, and he gave me a list guitar players. 147 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: And going back to kind of the session player thing, 148 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: I met one guy who was awesome and he was great, 149 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: good vibe, good hanging and I was like, Oh, this 150 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: guy is awesome. I can't wait from to play with us. 151 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: He was like, yeah, you know, my day rates two 152 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: fifty a day, and I immediately was like, oh, that 153 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: may not work, which means he's not investing coming in 154 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: low with the high. He just wants to pay right right, 155 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: which he deserves. I mean, you know, he had done 156 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: a lot of things and play with other people, and 157 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: this is he's at that point where he's a professional 158 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: career musician. Where we were doing this thing, we were 159 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: building it from the ground up, and uh, you gotta 160 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: be poor to build from the ground de actually like, 161 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: you have to be willing to be poor. Yeah. Absolutely, 162 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: And he wasn't willing to be poor, which is are 163 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: because he didn't have to be right exactly, and and 164 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: it would I don't think it would have worked because 165 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: when you're starting out, you've you've kind of all got 166 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: to be on the same page, because you're gonna play 167 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: really bad gigs and really awkward gigs, and you're gonna 168 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 1: be in situations where it sounds bad and you're not 169 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: getting paid anything except for free food and drinks or 170 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: whatever it is. And if everyone's not in the same 171 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: mindset and kind of in the same place and with 172 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: the same vision, there's gonna be someone unhappy. So I 173 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: think it's important in that early stage to kind of 174 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: make sure you're on the same page with that. So 175 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: the next guy called up went to mts U and all, 176 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: and we started talking and we clicked musically, and and uh, 177 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, I invited him to come out and play 178 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: with us. So the three of us started playing, and 179 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: that was Eric was a guitar player, So Eric Trip 180 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: and I started playing, and then Eric went to school 181 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: with Chandler who plays bass and Jared who plays everything. Um, 182 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: so he brought them along. So then we had three 183 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: mts U guys and Tripped myself. And you know that 184 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: it was funny because the first time I remember the 185 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: first rehearsal, wasn't this random living room this guy let 186 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: us use and uh, and we were playing and we 187 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: had this whole plan like I had these songs, We're 188 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: gonna practice them, and and we really probably played music 189 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: for like twenty or thirty minutes and then just started 190 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: hanging out. We took a break just and we hung 191 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: out to like three in the morning, and then it 192 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: was like, you guys, want to do this tomorrow, Like 193 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 1: we'll hang out tomorrow and maybe bring our instruments and 194 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: and so it started real organically and real naturally as 195 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: as it turned into five friends hanging out who also 196 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: played music. Um, okay, so you had to become friends. 197 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: It's a tough thing to do. Yeah, it and five 198 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: is a lot of personalities. And I know it because 199 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: one I hang out with the same people every day 200 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: to a radio show, work together every day, many hours, 201 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: and you learn and at first was infatuation stage. W 202 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: You're like, these are the greatest people in the world. 203 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: That's like, I'm so tired of a couple of them. 204 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: Then you're tired of another couple of them, and then 205 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: you just realize what everyone's faults are and how to 206 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: accept them and if you really want to be in 207 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: a long term, and so are the five people that 208 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: you started officially Lanka with it the same five now, 209 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: same five So nobody switched in and out. Nope, no 210 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: one switching out. Here's the awkward question, when did you 211 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: do you get paid more everybody else? Uh no, you 212 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: guts split it five ways. Yeah, look at that, so 213 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: and look at that Yeah yeah, so we I mean, 214 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: and that was another thing early on, it's it's for me. Um. 215 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: Now there there are things where in the future, you know, 216 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: if people you know people right, if you're right, because 217 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: but early on, honestly, early on, I was the first 218 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 1: one to get a publishing deal, and so I fronted 219 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: the cost for everything because we we got this RV 220 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: to tour around in um and I would pay for gas, 221 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: like I just my publishing money. I looked at as 222 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: land cos money. So I was paying for everything and 223 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: I wasn't taking money for for show gigs. I would 224 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 1: just you know, everyone would split it because I I 225 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: I you know, I looked at it. You know, Lanco 226 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: helped me get this publishing deal, and we're all in 227 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: this together. And so now it's even doubts where yeah, 228 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: we play shows, we all get paid for it. And 229 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: it's also two different jobs as a band. You guys 230 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 1: are playing and it's really awesome and you split it 231 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: five ways because your name is in the band, just saying, 232 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 1: but you all do right. And if you have publishing deals, 233 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: that's a whole different thing. You're paid, you have to 234 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 1: write certain amount of a right, and we have different 235 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: publishing deals too, you know, so like with different companies 236 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: and we write for different people. You know, we're all 237 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: over the place. So get really messy if you started 238 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: throwing that all in there. But as far as yeah, 239 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: we're all on stage together, we're all sweating the same. 240 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: We're all if someone buys a T shirt, we all 241 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: work to help sell that T shirt on stage. And 242 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: so there you go. That's interesting. Surprised with that whole 243 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: If my name was then it what I go? It's 244 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: probably not. My band is not real, so it doesn't 245 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: matter all our our stuff stuff. Right, Let me talk 246 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: about this for a second. Talk about a sleep number bead. 247 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: First in my bedroom, walking in, don't lie, absolutely didn't peak. 248 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: I walked in the bed actually starting TV to sleep 249 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: number bed. If you have a new year's resolution, if 250 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: it's to lose weight, exercise or have less stress, to 251 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: sleep number bed actress, what you need to have before 252 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: you start that better sleep? Better you can feel the 253 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: better you can get the resolutions done. You gotta have 254 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: seven eight hours of sleep at night and the sleep 255 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: number bed for me. Lets me sleep, let's me sleep good, 256 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: Let's me sleep hard. For me, it's tough to sleep, 257 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: wake up at three in the morning. My sleep number 258 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: setting is thirty. There's a sleep i Q score sleep 259 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: number Queen Mattress that started six right now. Lowest prices 260 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: of the season, say six hundred bucks on the sleep 261 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: number I eight bed. You only find sleep number into 262 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 1: the five hundred sleep number stores nation y eight hundred 263 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: next bed and telling you already here on the Bobby 264 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: Bones Show. So here with Brandon Lancaster of of Lanko 265 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: and so okay, you guys are a band. Um, let's 266 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: just kind of go around the circle for a second 267 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: and start with what's happening right now. You guys are 268 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: out on the road with the couple of my friends 269 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: brothers Osboe and right. Yeah, and so when you're out 270 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: on the road, how much time do you actually spend 271 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: together with the other band with them? It's been a 272 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: pretty cool situation because we hang out pretty much every night. Um. 273 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: We you know, we kind of knew them before and 274 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: we got to hang out with them once before and 275 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: then I know, I know John from just the riding 276 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: circles in Nashville and his wife Lucy, and so there's 277 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: there's already kind of a connection there, and so we're 278 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: we're kind of just all buddies. And and I mean honestly, 279 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: most nights after the show will walk on their bus 280 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: and hang out until bus call, and and before the show, 281 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: you know, might hang out in the dressing room. It's 282 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 1: it's it's pretty tight community. It's really fun. They're good dudes. Yeah, 283 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of good people, and there 284 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: are people and it also gets busy and groups stay 285 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: in groups. But they're they're good dudes. Yeah, they're very 286 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: and they're very genuine. You know. The first time we 287 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: really hung out with them was at this festival in 288 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: a Michigan and and I knew John, but no one 289 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: really knew each other the band or you know, one 290 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: in Lanco new John or TJ. And so I talked 291 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: to John. John was like, you guys should come hang 292 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: out with us after we're done playing. So we were 293 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: in this ninety Winnebego at the time, and they invite 294 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: us onto our bus and this was three in the 295 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: afternoon and we were supposed to leave it four in 296 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: the afternoon. We ended up staying there till literally two 297 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: in the morning. And it wasn't just a good hang 298 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: like John and TJ. Like we were on their bus, 299 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: We're watching TV, um watching sports and and I mean 300 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: they're so cool. They literally like, man, we've been, We've been, 301 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: We've been in a van, We've been in all kinds 302 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: of vehicles. We know what it's like to not have 303 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: a bus. If you got like, if you're tired, take 304 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: a nap. You know, you guys can hang out. You know, 305 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: we've got TVs. Like, grab yourself a beer, water, whatever 306 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 1: you guys need. What's ours is yours. And so we 307 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: thought that was so cool that they kind of, you know, 308 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: approached it that way. And really it just seems so genuine. 309 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: They didn't have you don't have to do that. You 310 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: can hang out with someone to not be that inviting 311 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: and that cool. And so we we from from day one, 312 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: we've just thought the world of them, and I think 313 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: they're really genuine guys. I think that's why a lot 314 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: of the internal community roots for them to not only 315 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: are they really good, but they're really good people. And 316 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people, but then they're genuine humans. 317 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: Those dudes are cool. I had dinner with John a 318 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: couple of nights ago, and John Osborne is one with 319 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: the big beard and kind of the big red hair. 320 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: T J is the clean cut guy, you know. Definitely 321 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: the vocalist, uh and John plays guitar like a madman. 322 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. It's apts. I'm not kidding. They're one of 323 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: the only acts I respect, really, and we get to 324 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: be with so many acts. We've toured with so many 325 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: acts past year, and I respect all of them, and 326 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: they all have different strengths, um, but Brothers Osborne is 327 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: the only band that we've toured with that if I'm 328 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: not getting Every night, after we're done we load up 329 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: our stuff, we all either walk back out front or 330 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: side stage and just watch their set because it's so 331 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: good and and every night John brings on the guitar 332 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: and and TJ is just a great vocalist, and it's 333 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: it's such a pleasure to watch them. And it's a 334 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: story of John has been in Nashville as of right 335 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: now sixteen years and they're just now starting to be 336 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 1: like a thing, right, and they've always been good, but 337 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 1: I'm just not starting to be a thing sixteen years. 338 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: It's a testament of just stay with it and grind 339 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: and if okay, if a song doesn't make it, okay, 340 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: what's the next one? You get dropped from a label? Okay, 341 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: what's the next one you get? What's the next one? 342 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: Keep going? And you know that's that's a great story 343 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: for young people because you know, you do things, just 344 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: don't fall into your lap, trust me, I know. So 345 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: for you, where did it start? Like when did people 346 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: start sniffing around and think, because like how guys are 347 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: pretty good? Well, you know, we got we got our start, 348 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: you know in uh we would we would play in 349 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: Murphy's Broll sometimes. But really Trip worked at this warehouse 350 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: literally right down the street and uh uh at Myer's 351 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: warehouse and they've actually knocked it down since then, which 352 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: is sad. But we didn't even we couldn't even afford 353 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: a place to practice, and so Trip, you know, literally 354 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: was like I have the key to my warehouse I work, 355 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: and we could sneak in there at night. So we would, 356 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: you know, literally sneak in there every night and just 357 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: play and you know, there was no air, no heats 358 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: when the winners. It was freezing in the summers. Literally, 359 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: there's videos going around with us like practicing in our 360 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 1: boxers because we're all just sweating, and but we're gonna 361 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: play and we're gonna practice. So we were doing that 362 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: and we would play. We would play wherever we could. 363 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,480 Speaker 1: But one thing for us was because we were a 364 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: band and we had original music, finding a place in 365 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: Nashville was always a struggle because if you go to Broadway, 366 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: they want a four hour cover set because tourists they're 367 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: there and they want to hear familiar songs exactly, which 368 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: I totally get an understanding. I mean, I've had plenty 369 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: of nights on Broadway when I first moved here, and 370 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 1: I love singing all the classic songs. But uh, for us, 371 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: you were you know, we would do covers. We have 372 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 1: no problem doing covers, but we really wanted to showcase 373 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: our original music and really wanted to grow as a band, 374 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: growing our original music. So we would play wherever we 375 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: could get a gig. But it might be outside of Broadway. 376 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: It might be on Demumbrium or in Midtown Um and 377 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: these are streets in Nashville, the country. Yeah, it's a 378 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: they're all still downtown, but they're not on that main 379 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,720 Speaker 1: strip and it's it's where a little more original music 380 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: is that. So we were doing that for a while 381 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: and then but we all had odd jobs. You know, 382 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: I was working at a concession stand and can you 383 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: work at bridge Stone? I worked at Bridgeton Area, which 384 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: is every town has a big arena, and Bridgetone is 385 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: where you know, like if Keith Urban played Bridgetone, it's 386 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's the Madison Square Garden of New York. 387 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: Which is funny you say, Keith Urban played bridge Stone 388 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: because this is where are a lot literally our lives 389 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: took a turn. We had been playing this music, playing gigs, 390 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: playing in bars, honestly, playing like restaurants where people are 391 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 1: eating montrealistics and you're trying to put on a show. 392 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: And one night I'm working concessions, selling hot dogs and 393 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: burgers and and sewed all that stuff. And were already 394 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: a band at this point that you're practicing. Oh yeah, 395 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 1: we were a band. We were playing gigs, We're doing 396 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: whatever we couldn't. This was a point where we were 397 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: sitting around, we were trying to demo songs to Nashville. 398 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: We were trying to get a producer it. But going 399 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: from that band that plays some songs to a band 400 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: that has recorded music, to a band that sells, to 401 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 1: a band that gets a record deal, there's so many steps. 402 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 1: And we were talking about those steps, you know, how 403 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: do we get a producer, how do we get recorded music? 404 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: How do we afford it? Should we do a go 405 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: fund me or what should we do? Right around that time, 406 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm working a Keith Urban concert at Bridgestone and uh, yeah, 407 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: get your dog. Just doing the register and I see 408 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: a guy walk by that I recognized, and his name's 409 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: Jay Joyce. He's a producer in Nashville. And he you know, 410 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: he had produced Eric Church, he had produced Keith Urban. 411 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: He had produced uh, Carrie Underwood and a Little Big 412 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: Town and and a bunch of rock bands classic you know, Emmy, 413 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: Lou Harris, Cage, Elephant Um. He was. He also played 414 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: with the Wallflowers. Yeah, like he's a great play yeah, 415 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 1: I mean great musician, then producer. He's done all the 416 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: Miranda stuff, Like played a lot of guitar on that. 417 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: So he's been So I was a fan. We were 418 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: all fans of his as a producer, as a player, 419 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: and we we knew him, you know, and and he 420 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: was just one of those guys and we love Eric Church, 421 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:00,679 Speaker 1: you know, he's he did all the Eric records. And 422 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,640 Speaker 1: I'm working my register at bridge Stone and see him 423 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: walk by at Keith at a Keith Urban show and 424 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: a Little Big Town was also playing that and he 425 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: had worked on both this record. So that's that's why 426 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: I was there. Um, he walks by and my line 427 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: was kind of dead. Oh you went after him at 428 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: the show. I shut down my register, asked the people 429 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: in my line if they could move to another line 430 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: while they were yelling at me. I kind of just 431 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: left and walked up to him. And what are you wearing? 432 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: I individualized when you go up to J. Joyce is 433 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: a big producer and big, big player and it's worked, 434 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean again everything from Faith to Urban to Thomas 435 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: Read a little big. What are you wearing? I'm wearing 436 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: Khaki's in a bridge Stone Arena uniform, in a name 437 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: tag that says my name is Brandon. What colors the 438 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: shirt blue and gold? There because predators colors. So so 439 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: you go up to J. Joyce, who's there too, and advisor, 440 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: a Bridge Stone visor. Oh now we're talking. Now we're talking. 441 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: You go up to this really cool, innovative producer and 442 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: the dorkiest close imaginable and you say, what, Well, first 443 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: I saw, I was like down. It was kind of 444 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: at the very end of the arena, so it was 445 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: kind of a dead part and he was the only 446 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: person standing there, and I'm down, and I kind of 447 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: go Jay Jay to see if he'll turn his head, 448 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: to make sure to make sure to him because it's 449 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: so weird that it could even be him, because you know, 450 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: it's like, what is he even doing here? He's you know, 451 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't get out much. And uh, and I got 452 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: Jenny turns his head and I just walk up to 453 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: him and hey, man, my name is Brandon, which was 454 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 1: funny because I'm wearing a name tag my name is 455 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: but you know, my name is Brandon, and uh, you know, 456 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: I just wanted to tell you man, I'm a huge 457 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 1: fan of what you do. Uh, And and just told him, 458 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: you know, I love the records he had worked on 459 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: and referenced some records and did you know this happens 460 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: to every minute of every day, Like, yeah, I'm just 461 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: wondering where the approach came in, like what did you 462 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 1: do this as different? You know, I don't know what 463 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: I will say. One thing about Jay is he doesn't 464 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: go out a lot like he was. I think three 465 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: of the five album of the Years the Album of 466 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: the Year this year for c m as either two 467 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: or three of the five he had worked on. He 468 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: wasn't at the c m A Awards, Like he didn't 469 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: even go. He was working. So he but when he 470 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: does go out, I know people approach him, but you 471 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: know I I didn't because people always say like, oh, 472 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: you made a move, like you pitched yourself, like you 473 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: saw something you went not really like as much as 474 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 1: I'd like to say, like, yeah, I really went for it. 475 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: I just loved what the guy did. I loved his work, 476 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: and we're you knowledgeable in his works and you know 477 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: you weren't. Absolutely that's a big deal. Yeah, if you 478 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: go to someone and you don't have time to prepare 479 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: and you know everything about them, Yeah, there's a respect 480 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 1: that even though you're pitching, they're like, oh, you actually 481 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: know what I do, right, And that's what I you know. Initially, 482 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: I just went up to tell him I love the 483 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: air The last air turch record the Outsiders that he 484 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: had done and and the little big town stuff and 485 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: also like Cage the Elephant. It's a rock band and amously, 486 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: you know, and I asked him a few questions about 487 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: some of this stuff on the record, and and so 488 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: we just started talking music. Um. And then that came 489 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: around to him asking, you know about me and my thing. 490 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: And he was like, you're a songwriter, right, because I, 491 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: you know, talked about writing and I was like, yeah, 492 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm a writer and I'm in a band. He's like, well, 493 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: tell me about the band. Kind of started talking about it, 494 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: and he just real nontionally because that that's cool. Managed 495 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: to complain me some music sometime and you got you 496 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: got a direction that that would be uh, that would 497 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: be putting it lightly. No, Uh well, I mean the 498 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: thing is Nashville though, you hear that kind Everyone's like, 499 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: let's have a dinner, let's get together, let's right together. 500 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: Let's right. I mean, that's that's the Nashville hey man, 501 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Let's write together. You never and I've had producers before, 502 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, say like, oh, I'd love to work with 503 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: some stuff, man, and it doesn't happen. They don't call 504 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: you back, they're busy for two years, you know whatever, 505 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: and frankly you're unknown. Yeah, Like, what's the benefit of 506 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: working with some kids in a dorky set of khakis? 507 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean they were cool khakis. Man, there's always a 508 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: benefit if you hit the right one. But there are 509 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: a thousand door he gets khakis. So for him to go, hey, 510 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: play me some music, it's one thing, but for him 511 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 1: to actually follow up and now, how did that happen? 512 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: So I I said, oh, yeah, I'd love to you many, 513 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: that'd be cool, not even thinking it could be real. 514 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: That was towards me in the conversation. Kind of the conversation, 515 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: you know, came to an end, and I thought, what 516 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: if he is serious? What if I really could play 517 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: him some music? That'd be so cool, just to play 518 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: for him, you know, just to even go to a studio. 519 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: So I like started walking right away and awkwardly turned. 520 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I just realized that I don't 521 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: have your number. Is there a way I get your number? 522 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: And he was like, oh yeah, Sharon. He was funny. 523 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: He just said it like he said his number, and 524 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: thank god I had my phone out and really quickly 525 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: put it in and saved it, and I was like, cool, 526 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: thanks man. Was it like, are you married? Single? Got 527 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: a girlfriend? Right right right now? Have a girlfriend? Was 528 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: it like when you meet a girl and you meet 529 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: them and you like them and you have it, like, oh, 530 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: I can't wait to call it. I don't know when 531 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: I should call them, Like I don't know what day, 532 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,840 Speaker 1: what time of the day should I? Was that like that? 533 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: It was exactly like that. I went to that night. 534 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: So Trip the drummer literally lives on the next street 535 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: over from here, by the way, um, and we were, 536 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, neighbors down the street. We were over there 537 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: or we were pubbed down there, and he was there 538 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, I text him after work 539 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: like stay where we're at. I gotta come over the pub. 540 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: I gotta show you something. And I went there and 541 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: showed him, just showed him Jay's number, just said Jay 542 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: Joys and his number and he's like no, you know. 543 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: And then it kind of became like, well, now what 544 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean? What do we call them? So I thought, 545 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 1: let's get some music together, Let's get some good demos 546 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: so we can have an accurate representation of what we're doing. 547 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: So we went through like two different producers paid them, 548 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: like for demo costs. By the way, you're hiring producers 549 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: to produce something so another producer hears it, right, just 550 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: I mean it was just demos, you know. It's like, hey, 551 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: well demo aren't recording into your iPhone. There's the recording 552 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: into your iPhone, the work tape, and then there's getting 553 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: someone to actually put a little work into a track. 554 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: And you're paying a producer so an know the producer 555 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: will hear it and hopefully produce you Like, it's so 556 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: many little up That's what we were talking about, absolutely 557 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: and so and that's why that's the way you're supposed 558 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: to do. You're supposed to have demos when you go 559 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: to someone and and will demo stuff ourselves, which just 560 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: doesn't sound as good as going to a studio. So 561 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: I was like, all right, let's play. Let's pay a 562 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: few hundred bucks per track and give him like three 563 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: songs and have some work tapes. And we had two 564 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: different producers, like we'd start and they'd bail. And now 565 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: a month had passed since I talked to Jay. I 566 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: totally forgot about you, and so I I was on 567 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: my way over the studio to like talk to this 568 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: producer that it had. He was a good guy, nice guy, 569 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: he was busy, and it just he wasn't getting to 570 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: our stuff. And I'm in traffic and I swear this 571 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: is like a movie and this sounds so corny, but 572 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm listening to the radio and Springsteen comes on not bruised, Yeah, 573 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: Church of Springsteen, which Jay had produced, and I hear 574 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: it and I literally just pull out of traffic, pull 575 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: into a parking lot and I'm like, you know, I'm 576 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: just gonna go. I'm just gonna call him. And I 577 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,439 Speaker 1: just call him. Didn't have anything to offer, didn't like 578 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: I looved, just send you some demos. I said, hey man, 579 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: this is really round Money's brand Lancaster. I met you 580 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: like a month ago at Bridgetone. He's like, oh yeah, yeah, 581 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,640 Speaker 1: what's up. I was like, hey, well, you know you 582 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: you you said about a month ago that maybe I 583 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: come over and play some music and I'd love to 584 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: do that. And I kind of started giving my story 585 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,199 Speaker 1: about not having demos. He's like, he goes, and this 586 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 1: is very J goes, look kid, what do you want 587 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: to do? Why are you calling me? What do you want? 588 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, I want to be an artist. 589 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: I want to be an artist. I want to be 590 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: a songwriter. I'm in this band. I want to play 591 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: all over the world. I want to I want people 592 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: to hear our music. I want to be a songwriter. 593 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: I just the next step. I'm trying to get that 594 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: next step. He's like, all right, we'll come over tomorrow. 595 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm three o'clock. Wow that quick, huh. So I go 596 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: over by myself and playing some songs on acoustic guitar, 597 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 1: which it's funny. We put all that work and trying 598 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: to get demos. But the way Jay is, he wants 599 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: to hear it kind of. So he's like, I just play, Like, 600 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: pick up that guitar and play, Like, play what you 601 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: think is a single? So I played him a song. 602 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: He's like, what you play him? We do? Yeah? I 603 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: get there right here. This is uh, it's actually you 604 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: at Jay sent us this, this is you at his 605 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: but I do have we do here we go, So 606 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: you play you play this pharm acoustic? Yeah, just acoustics, 607 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: like when you're playing it, you're watching it kind of. 608 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just trying not to think about that. 609 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: This means anything in my mind. When you're in those situations, 610 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: like I'm a very my personality. I'll look, I'm very 611 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: future oriented. I'll think like, well, how is this going 612 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: to play out? And what will happen if I do 613 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: this and this and this. But in those kind of situations, 614 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: I can freak myself out. So I kind of just 615 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: that's the kind of situation where you go, you know what, 616 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: this is really cool. No matter how this turns out. 617 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell my kids about this one day. I 618 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: want to be like, yeah, one of those guests, do 619 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: you do playing some songs. I got to meet him 620 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: and played his piano, you know whatever it was, and 621 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: and so I was kind of just in the moment 622 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: playing the song, just enjoying that I was playing it 623 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: for him, and uh, I finished, and he's stone cold, 624 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: like he's good poker face and he's you know, he's 625 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: not gonna like show emotions. She's like, cool man, Yeah, 626 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: so you can. You can write a good song. It 627 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: sounds like a hit. That's cool. Uh, now play a 628 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: song that never would be on the radio, but you 629 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: really like it. And I played him another song called 630 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: in the Morning that we actually ended up cutting. Uh, 631 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: and uh, it's not out yet. In the morning, every 632 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: not that one. If if I wrote that, then I 633 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: would have flown my private jet right here, um every 634 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: morning for those that are going to correct me on Twitter. 635 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: So you play in the morning for him, Yeah, And 636 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: and you know it's a it's a more of a 637 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,680 Speaker 1: ballad and a different time signature, and it's a little 638 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 1: more artsy, but it's a very real song lyrically, and 639 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: you know it's a it's a love song. But it 640 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: starts out I'm tired of you, you're sick of me, um, 641 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: and it's kind of about just the journey of no 642 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: matter what we're going through in the morning, we're still 643 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: gonna wake up and be best friends. So just know 644 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: that and it's okay whatever we're going through right now. Um. 645 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: So I played him that, and then I played him 646 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: American Love Story, which is your best song, by the way, 647 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: thank you. I'm glad I played it for him then, 648 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: and uh, and he he thought it was cool and 649 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: he was like, all right, that's that's you know, it's 650 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: I've heard I need to hear. And after that, so 651 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: he produced you because of that that and amery I guess, yeah, 652 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean he hate producer because what we do and 653 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: and I hate you love the story and then this 654 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: is a good song. We love this one. We didn't 655 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: know a long life times ago. It's fine. Let me 656 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: tell you this American Love Story is earlier your best song. 657 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: Thank you man. We're excited about that one. And that 658 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: you know from day one. American Love Story is a 659 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: special song. It's a story. It's it's the reason it's 660 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: a song. That's the reason you're in country music. UM, 661 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: it's just that worry that people relate to. UM. And 662 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: it's been cool to play it on the road literally 663 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: every night, which we love it like people keep doing it. 664 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: But every night people come up to us and tell 665 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: us how they are the American Love Story, and that's 666 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 1: their story. Whether it's someone's deployed in the army and 667 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: they came back, or whether they met in high school 668 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: or met in college, or we'll have old couples, young couples, 669 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: and so it's been really cool to see a song 670 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: like that relate to so many different people on so 671 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: many levels and kind of put their story into it. 672 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: So you and I've call it and I got a job. 673 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: I was working that nine five. I don't think about 674 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: this band the singer. Kind of sucks. It's terrible. Never 675 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: fell so alive. A spaming day's work, can't spam a 676 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: night's drinking, Allen that screaming for them? Day you're coming back, No, 677 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: coudn't come too soon, couldn't come too soon. Well, now 678 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:07,880 Speaker 1: it's gonna be up forever. You're gonna better. And now 679 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,480 Speaker 1: I've learning all about American love story there from Lanco. Man. 680 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: This a girlfriend you have? All you guys been together? Oh, 681 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: man a while. We met in college, so about six years. 682 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: M hm hm. I knew there would be something to 683 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: it when you took a breath before you answered, well, 684 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 1: it's because I always get it wrong. How long we've 685 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: been together? Six years? Uh? Yeah? How does she feel 686 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 1: about this? With you? The growth the road? You're a 687 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: good looking dude, you're fronting a band, You're getting some trade. 688 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: It's as much as it's a grind for you on 689 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: this front, I don't know. I never better. It's also 690 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: a little it's worked for her too, absolutely to have 691 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: to be in a relationship. What's someone like you? Yeah, 692 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: I mean touring, being in a band, that's one thing. 693 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: Just being a relationship with me period, I think could 694 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 1: be tough, Um, But with all the added stuff. You know, 695 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: one thing that I think that we have an advantage 696 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: is that she was She knew me in college, We 697 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 1: got to know each each other in college, became friends 698 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: in college, start dating college. She's seen me go from 699 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: a college student playing in coffee shops and bands in 700 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: college to moving to Nashville, staying up, you know, talking 701 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 1: all night about I don't know what I'm gonna do, 702 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how we're gonna, you know, complaining. She 703 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: was there when we get the record deal. She's there 704 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: when you get the publishing deal. She's there when you 705 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: have first mixes, she's there when you everything that's happened. 706 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: She's been there for so when when times are hard, 707 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: she's kind of been through this journey with you. So 708 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: she's she's really excited for me, she's really excited for 709 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: the band, and she's been a part of our story, 710 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: and so she knows how hard we've worked for it, 711 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: and she knows how hard I've worked for it, and 712 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: so there's just so much support. And so even when 713 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: times are hard, when you're gone, you miss each other, 714 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Um, I think because we've built 715 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: such a foundation she's been a part of this. You'll 716 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 1: go you're a little bit like, hi bright, let's go 717 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: so low. I think you can do this, but not 718 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: at all. No, Yeah, she wants to be in a 719 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,280 Speaker 1: duo and we're gonna that's that's the actually the next step. 720 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: She she used to like she's a musical person, she 721 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: can sing, but she's a teacher. So it's so good. Listen, 722 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get in trouble for saying that it's really 723 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,799 Speaker 1: good to date someone not in the same kind of industry. 724 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: Is as I say that at the time of this recording, 725 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: my girlfriends and artists. So it's it's grinding because we're 726 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: both we're both in different pat it's solid that she 727 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: has a foundation any job because you're nuts, right, and 728 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: it's a nice balance. Yeah, And and teaching specifically, you know, 729 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: it's cool because they get summers off and then breaks 730 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: off and stuff. So she can trat like this summer, 731 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: you know she can't. We played a lot of PLUSA. 732 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: She can't do all of PLUSA and just different festivals 733 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: like that. But then all so it's nice. There are 734 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: things where if you were dating someone in the industry, 735 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: I think it'd be cool because you guys could talk 736 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: about you can talk about industry things, and there'd be 737 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: you would understand it a little more than than a 738 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 1: teacher might. But it is nice to get off the 739 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: road and kind of have another life and kind of 740 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 1: be able to take a break. And when she's talking 741 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,279 Speaker 1: about her day, I don't really have if she's talking 742 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: about her classroom or lesson plans or another teacher, whatever 743 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: it is, you know, I can just relax and listen. 744 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: And it's as supposed where if she was like a 745 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: songwriter or I'd be like, well, maybe you should and 746 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: before you know what, you're now like trying to handle 747 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: two careers. Um, but I mean I think that's cool. 748 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: I think that you know, you're dating an artist. I 749 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: think that'd be cool, you know, because you have then 750 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 1: you have a major thing in common. I'm dating a 751 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: good person. The artist thing. Artists are weird and and 752 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: I say that, and we're both different kinds of artists. 753 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: We we we create different things. We're nuts. You have 754 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: to be nuts to do what we do. Yeah. Absolutely, Um, 755 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: what what grade? Like? What age of the kids that 756 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: she teaches? She's been all over the place. She used 757 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: to do elementary then she did did middle school, and 758 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 1: now she is doing high school. Oh dude, I bet 759 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,680 Speaker 1: the high school kids are like, all that would be. 760 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: So she's a young high school teacher. She's actually fifty three, 761 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: so that I'm talking about just kidding, got that November 762 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:24,040 Speaker 1: March romance, it's even longer. So okay, high school kids. Yeah, 763 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: I mean they probably think they got I mean she's 764 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: not married, right, Yeah. Yeah. If I was in high school, 765 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: i'd be like, I'm gonna get I'm I'm gonna yeah. 766 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: Like did the high school dude a little bit flat 767 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,920 Speaker 1: with her? Oh? Absolutely? Oh yeah. Like and she she 768 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: used to help coach cheerleading, so she would be at 769 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: all the fou She's at a private school, so it's 770 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, you do everything. Yeah, Like 771 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 1: she she was a cheerleader in high school for like 772 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 1: a year, so they're like, oh, help with cheerleading. It's 773 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,399 Speaker 1: more just she wasn't like the actual coach, just help out. 774 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 1: But oh yeah, I would get to football games or 775 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,919 Speaker 1: basketball games. And oh yeah, those those seniors in high 776 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: school there, as far as they're concerned, they're grown men, 777 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: and you know, they got this like they're trying to 778 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 1: look up with mis Lanko right now in Mislanko. What's 779 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: that's funny? Man, So she's a high school teacher. Do 780 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: you know the stuff that she teaches, because I feel 781 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: like right now, I'd be so stupid with that the 782 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: curriculum that's happening right now. I know, I know it's 783 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: that's not it's so it's a world so far removed 784 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: from mine that you know, she teaches English and she'll 785 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: correct you, uh she has before, but it's not. She 786 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 1: mainly does like papers and like you know, they'll read 787 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: a book and do a book summary things like that. 788 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,320 Speaker 1: So it is I'm like, you know, she'll be grading 789 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 1: all like look over her shoulder and see and she'll 790 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 1: like correct something that sounds good to me, Like I'm 791 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 1: a writer. I mean, who in the years that you 792 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: guys have been doing this and you've been able to 793 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: go out on the road with people like who are 794 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,760 Speaker 1: some of the uh they acts that you've seen? And man, 795 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: that's really good because you see everybody in this town. 796 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: It's such a You may look at Nashville from the 797 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 1: outside to go it's a big city, but it's such 798 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: a small town for such a big industry. So you 799 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 1: get to see everybody at some point who have you 800 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 1: seen you look at and you go, man, that's really good. 801 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: That's how That's how I want to do. Maybe it's 802 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: not exactly what I want to do, but that's how 803 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: I want to do it. Yeah, I think, I mean, 804 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean definitely, and we are talking about brothers. Osborne 805 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: would definitely one, but other than them, I mean, you 806 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: know this this summer it was really cool. We got 807 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: to play a lot of festivals and so we got 808 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: to see a lot of the huge you know a 809 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: list people like Jason Alden and you know, I grew 810 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: up with I knew Jason Alden since high school, you know, 811 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: I I'm familiar with his music, but I've never seen 812 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,720 Speaker 1: him live. And it was so cool because, yeah, Lanko 813 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: is not Jason Aldan and and that may not be 814 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: what or who we are, but seeing him put on 815 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: a show and the energy and the way he's communicating 816 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: the audience and just being a ringleader that night of 817 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, just capitalizing on this opportunity where you have 818 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: all these people and you're leading the charge of this 819 00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: is gonna be a great night. We're all in this together. 820 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: Seeing him do it a lot. I mean a lot 821 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: of the pros got you know, I got to see 822 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: Luke brian Um people like that that you see how 823 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: long they've been doing it. Miranda Lambert would be another one. 824 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: You know, got to see her this summer. And and 825 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,959 Speaker 1: there's just a craft that they've mastered of and there's 826 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: a reason they're up there. Yes, it's like that's when 827 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: you realize, you know, the music good and they're right 828 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: in that part of it's great, but there's a reason 829 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: why they're they're up there on that stage in front 830 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: of ten thousand twenty because they're so good. Keith Urban's 831 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: that way for me. Like to watch Keith Urban play. 832 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: You can hear songs are fantastic on the radio. He 833 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,840 Speaker 1: can come into my radio show and he's saying, is fantastic. 834 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 1: To watch them play live, it's like a whole other 835 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: dimension you get. You're like, okay, I get it. Yeah, 836 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: he should be Entertainer of the year. Then you go 837 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: watch Karen like, okay, she should be entertaining. Then you 838 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 1: got look like, okay, he should be Entertainer of the Year. 839 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,919 Speaker 1: So those guys that are at that level, they're there 840 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,920 Speaker 1: because they are so good at doing that right. Absolutely, 841 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: it's something and we you can all no matter where 842 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 1: you're at, you can always be learning. And we you know, 843 00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: this past year, we just we just absorbed everything because 844 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: and we're a big live band, you know, our live show. 845 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: We take a lot of pride in it, and and 846 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 1: we love the live experience. We love people showing up 847 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: and and just knowing that and that was one thing 848 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: I learned, honestly all the way back working at bridge 849 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: Stone was all these people are coming here. They all 850 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 1: have jobs, they all may have had a hard week, 851 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: they all may have problems in relationships, whatever it may be. 852 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: But tonight is a big night. It's a special night 853 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: that they're going to tell their friends about. I mean, 854 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, that's like trip he saw. Jay's not even 855 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,160 Speaker 1: a sixteen and he still talks about it and it's 856 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,759 Speaker 1: so cool. You know. Bruce Springsteen, I heard a thing 857 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: where he always, you know, will tell his band tonight 858 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,479 Speaker 1: could be somebody's first show and it could be somebody's last, 859 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: so let's play like it. And knowing that you have 860 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: this chance to impact people on a night and impact 861 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: their lives and relate to them and sing these songs 862 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,400 Speaker 1: that it may be their anniversary song, or it may 863 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 1: take them back to a time in college where it 864 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,920 Speaker 1: was them and all their friends. It's just such an 865 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: honor to be able to to have that opportunity to 866 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,200 Speaker 1: to play in front of people like that, and seeing 867 00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: these people have been doing it for so long it 868 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: have mastered it and still just go out. There was 869 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,440 Speaker 1: so much energy and are so captivating. It's it's really 870 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: fun to watch. You know. One of my friends, and 871 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,799 Speaker 1: I don't use that word loosely, is Christian Bush from Sugarland, 872 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: who is now doing stuff solo, but it's still they're 873 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,920 Speaker 1: still sugar Land. And so you know, at five seven, 874 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:41,520 Speaker 1: nine years ago, all those Sugarland was a list number one, 875 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 1: f number one, playing stadiums Mana's whatever you wanna call them, 876 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: you know, the big gigs, right, And I was talking 877 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: to Christian because Christian came out and played with us 878 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: the Raging Idiots, and he played guitar and just saying 879 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: background and Christian, I've written a bunch together. We've written 880 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: some some fun songs, goofy songs, you know, and so 881 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: um it was that I was were what we were doing. 882 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 1: We were playing dope Campbell Stadium we're playing Florida State University, 883 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: and so it was US an old dominion of Tyler Farr, 884 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: and Christian was playing guitar for us, and he's just 885 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: doing it because he's a nice guys, just a good dude. 886 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 1: And I was like, hey man, when and he goes, 887 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,400 Speaker 1: you know, I have actually played the stadium, you know, 888 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: with sugar Land we played, And I was like, what 889 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: is it like moving up? Going from clubs to bigger clubs, 890 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:33,799 Speaker 1: maybe theaters, then you start playing the arenas. He said, 891 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was a lot like I was so 892 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: excited for those stadium arena shows. But when once you 893 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: do them, he said, sometimes it sounds sucks. Sometimes the guitar. 894 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: All right, he goes, it's kind of the same thing. 895 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: It's always the same. And if you just practice in 896 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: the smallest places at being the biggest you can be, 897 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: and you condition your up to be that big all 898 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: the way up and maintain it stays the same all 899 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,560 Speaker 1: the way through, because crap happens that at every state. Yeah, 900 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,879 Speaker 1: you're making more money, but as an effect, how good 901 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: you are, but at that point you should already be there. Yeah, 902 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: And I think that early on that was kind of 903 00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: our mentality. Like I said, we were playing restaurants because 904 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: even playing a bar was tough. So a restaurant maybe 905 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,400 Speaker 1: like okay, you can play whatever you want for an 906 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 1: hour and a half. You know, we have losing money early, 907 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,399 Speaker 1: a lot of bands losing gosh, yes, absolutely losing. I mean, yeah, 908 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: you would pay to play a gig, like as if 909 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 1: you're going to drive to Chattanooger, drive to Atlanta or 910 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: wherever it may be, or Indianapolis, they may throw your 911 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 1: two d five hundred bucks. Well by the time you 912 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,280 Speaker 1: you pay for gas, or if you stay in a hotel, 913 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: you're absolutely paying about a hundred two hundred bucks to 914 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: play that show. But you're just doing it because one 915 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 1: you're you're trying to get better, you're trying to kind 916 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: of get your name out there. But a big part 917 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: of it early on was we weren't playing great gigs. 918 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 1: We weren't playing great venues. You know there we were 919 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: happy to be there, but you know they weren't. It 920 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,440 Speaker 1: wasn't a theater, it wasn't a stadium, that wasn't a 921 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,280 Speaker 1: club even, And we recognized early on, if we don't 922 00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: go out there every night and just play the best, 923 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 1: that we can and have fun and enjoy what we're 924 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,960 Speaker 1: doing and care that. You know what, there's only three 925 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: people here, but this could be cool for them. This 926 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: is you know, let's let's give them good music and 927 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,439 Speaker 1: play the best we can. If you don't do that, 928 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: it'll get really old, really fast. Because it is it's 929 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: microphones everything. It's the same microphones, same guitars, it's monitors, 930 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: it's a stage, you know it a lot of it. 931 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,080 Speaker 1: You're going through the same thing. So if you are 932 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,960 Speaker 1: reminding yourself, like I get to be on stage and 933 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: play music and I get to give this gift to 934 00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: people in the audience, then I think it could be 935 00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: a letdown. It could be this point. I think that 936 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,239 Speaker 1: people that have long careers, I think it's because they 937 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: really do love it and they're in it because they 938 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: love it because and they don't know how to do 939 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: anything else. Because if you were just doing it to 940 00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: play the more people, and play the more people and 941 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: get more, there's always gonna be another thing you're trying 942 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: to get to. There's always it's like chasing money and 943 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 1: the career world, the more you chase money, the less 944 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 1: money you're actually going to make. For the most part 945 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: you're if you chase passion, you're going to work harder 946 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: at it. You're going to get better at it because 947 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,440 Speaker 1: you're working harder, and because you're getting better at it, 948 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: then the money comes. And I think too, you know 949 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 1: one thing in the band, when you travel a lot 950 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: and you you play with all these other bands, it's 951 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: weird when you start doing this professionally because there's literally 952 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: a ranking system. I mean there's literally a chart and 953 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 1: it's like, well, you have the number whatever song, or 954 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,120 Speaker 1: you have the number or and then you're on the road, 955 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: it's like, well they have a big fancy tour bus. Well, 956 00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 1: then once you get a tour bus, will they have 957 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,080 Speaker 1: multiple fancy tour buses and there's always a ladder to climb, 958 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,239 Speaker 1: and we'll we'll kind of just throw out this quote 959 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: that's you know, don't worry about it. Comparison is the 960 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 1: thief of joy because at the end of the day, 961 00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: we're joyful just being able to make music and play music. 962 00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: And the second you start saying if you get a 963 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: number one, we'll guess what, there's someone out there with 964 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,719 Speaker 1: three number ones you get three number ones, or someone 965 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: out there with ten or twenty. If you're always looking 966 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,400 Speaker 1: at other people and comparing yourself. It'll rip away the 967 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: joy from it and and it'll stop you from loving 968 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: what you're doing. Let me ask you, this not awkward 969 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: for me, Dad, I don't care. Yeah, you put out 970 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,799 Speaker 1: Long Left tonight. Okay. So the song comes out at 971 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 1: your first major label single and where did the peak? 972 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 1: I believe thirty two? Okay, So for all intentsive purposes, 973 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 1: the single failed. If you're if you're comparing it by 974 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,200 Speaker 1: a chart standard, yes, and I and I I'm comparing 975 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: it by whatever I's gonna say in radio world, which, 976 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 1: trust me, I have issues with two. I'm in the 977 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 1: radio and radio more than anybody. Which is so funny 978 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: because it's like a normal person like if if you're 979 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: like A had a top forty single, people like, oh 980 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: my gosh, you're huge. But yeah, I know you're shooting 981 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 1: for that number one or top ten or whatever it 982 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,399 Speaker 1: is or whatever it is. Yeah, So this song comes 983 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: out when they call you and say, all right, this 984 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,879 Speaker 1: song is dead. We're not pushing it anymore. Who makes 985 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: that call to you? Our management talk to us about it, like, 986 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,799 Speaker 1: and it was do you know what's coming? Yes? In 987 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 1: a way, I mean, you wanted to do well, and 988 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: obviously you have. Like I remember, it's funny because we 989 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 1: we were learning all this last year. I mean a 990 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: year ago, I wouldn't be able to talk about radio 991 00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: the way I could talk about it now. Charts and 992 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: all that stuff. I knew what they were and you hear, 993 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 1: like number one. I don't know, but how do you 994 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 1: get a number one? I just I'm just putting out music. 995 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: And you know, when you talk to your radio rep check, 996 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: what's your like, what's your goal for this song? Like? 997 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: Where do you there? Like number one? You're like, wait, 998 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:34,040 Speaker 1: a number and you realize there's the standard is the 999 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: number one? That's and if it's not number one? So 1000 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: that was interesting for us to learn. But in our 1001 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 1: mindset releasing a single, we wanted it to reflect who 1002 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: we are. We wanted to have you height to think 1003 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,759 Speaker 1: you're about to be a number one artist? Did did they? 1004 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: Did they have it in your head like you're gonna 1005 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: be a numb one artists? Trust us on this and 1006 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: you were like and you're like whoa And they were like, oh, 1007 00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: it didn't make it. If they did, we weren't hyped. 1008 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 1: If they did. I think that their job is to 1009 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,040 Speaker 1: be hyped into into work like it's got to be 1010 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,160 Speaker 1: number one. We're just looking at is all right, you 1011 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: guys are gonna work the song. We're gonna play it, 1012 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: and we believe in the song and we're happy it's 1013 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: out there. If you're honest right now, I don't know. 1014 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:15,759 Speaker 1: I most of I wouldn't believe that answer, but I 1015 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,959 Speaker 1: feel like you're being honest right now about this. Yeah. 1016 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,319 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just weird. It just all happened like 1017 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 1: last year the song was just happy it's your first single. 1018 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know what a radio tour is a 1019 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,640 Speaker 1: year ago, and then you're on radio tour, you what 1020 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: you made, you on radio stations and playing in front 1021 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: of programming recordar right, and so we were you're doing 1022 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: all that. So we're honestly just trying to get through. 1023 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: And we were also were touring a lot last year. 1024 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,520 Speaker 1: So we're playing shows. So if they're like, hey, you 1025 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,719 Speaker 1: moved up the spot, where like great, we gotta go 1026 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,560 Speaker 1: on stage and play like be honest with Me was 1027 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: long lived tonight in your mind? I failure? Yes or no? 1028 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: No it was not because was it a success? Yes, 1029 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,959 Speaker 1: the way that I would look at it. I really 1030 00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,839 Speaker 1: think it was a success because, first of all, when 1031 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,720 Speaker 1: we're looking at our first single, we're wanting an accurate 1032 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: representation of us. Who is land Co? What is land Co? 1033 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: What's the vibe, what's the style like? And when you're 1034 00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 1: looking at a year that's an election year, you're looking 1035 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 1: at all the stuff that's going on, You're looking at 1036 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: people in social media and all the distractions that are 1037 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: around us. I wanted a song that came out first 1038 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: that accurately represented who we are, both musically and lyrically. 1039 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 1: And also we're gonna play a lot of live shows, 1040 00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,879 Speaker 1: we're playing festivals. I wanted an anthemic song that people 1041 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: could rally around because ultimately that's what we want Landco 1042 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: to be. So to have a song that goes out there, 1043 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,319 Speaker 1: and I mean it had you know, it got up 1044 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: to I think near eighteen million streams on Spotify, So 1045 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: that's very playlisted. It is playlisted, not to hate on 1046 00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: your no and there, I mean there there are instances 1047 00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,160 Speaker 1: where you look, I've looked. It's funny because I'll look 1048 00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,400 Speaker 1: at playlisting and I'll look at an artist that had 1049 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: number one and they'll have like seven million streams and 1050 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: be on the playlist, and then we're in the thirties 1051 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 1: and have eight million And although there is playlisting, at 1052 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,799 Speaker 1: the end of the day, for me, it's not about like, oh, 1053 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 1: eighteen million went and loved our song. That means it 1054 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: was played eighteen million times, which means that that message 1055 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,399 Speaker 1: that we cared about and we wanted people to hear 1056 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: it got out there. And you know what, getting in 1057 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,840 Speaker 1: the thirties, people heard it on the radio. When we 1058 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,040 Speaker 1: played these festivals, people are singing it. You know, if 1059 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: we play a club show, a couple hundred people come 1060 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: out there singing the song. So for us to have 1061 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: a first year on the road, first single at radio, 1062 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: we had never in our lives had people sing a 1063 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: song with us. We're just trying someone knows something that 1064 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: you yeah, and and so for us to know that 1065 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: a year ago, no one could sing one word of 1066 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: a song unless we're playing Sweet Caroline or Sweet Caroline. Dude. 1067 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 1: Once again, once again, if I wrote that song, we 1068 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 1: once again we beat my house in in my and 1069 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 1: on the top of the hill. Um yet John Richards 1070 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 1: House right exactly, but we uh so it was of us, 1071 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 1: so you it was not a failure to you know, 1072 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,400 Speaker 1: it was a lot of time. It's not a failure. 1073 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 1: It was not a failure. That's because most first thing goes. 1074 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: I don't even get the thirties right right. I was 1075 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: gonna gonna pressure hard on that, and whatever you said 1076 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,360 Speaker 1: to the truth, everybody has their own truth. I just 1077 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think if you're really an artist 1078 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: and you care about your art and you care about 1079 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: your songs, yes you wanted to be successful in the charts, 1080 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: but that can't be the measure. That's that can't be 1081 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,280 Speaker 1: the way that you measure whether the song was successful 1082 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: or not, because you gotta eat. Okay, if you're talking 1083 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,879 Speaker 1: about like monetary, like did it buy me as many 1084 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,880 Speaker 1: meals at a restaurant as a number? One? Would have? No, 1085 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,800 Speaker 1: it did not. But did people hear it? Did it? 1086 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean we would have. I've had people after the 1087 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,919 Speaker 1: show come up and be like, when you started playing 1088 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: Long Live Tonight, my friend I started crying because we're 1089 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 1: graduating college and that's been our college anthem. That one 1090 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 1: story right there, the songs of success. I mean, as 1091 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 1: an artist, you're very much an artist. I feel like 1092 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: you could just go and write songs and be an 1093 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: artist to be cool and happy. And I didn't believe 1094 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: that at first. I too, you're too pretty. I was like, okay, well, 1095 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 1: trust me, I've been writing songs and not having any 1096 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: success at all for a long time and been happy. 1097 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: So it's at this point in life it's kind of 1098 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: I hope to always keep that. But and trust me, 1099 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 1: I want success. I want if you have a number one, 1100 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: that means way more people have heard it and you're impacting. 1101 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: But to me, even the number one just means more 1102 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,600 Speaker 1: people are hearing it, so more people have the chance 1103 00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,799 Speaker 1: to understand you and know you and then come out 1104 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,239 Speaker 1: to a show and then you get to give them 1105 00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,560 Speaker 1: the full thing. So that that's kind of the way 1106 00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,520 Speaker 1: that I I look at it. Very interesting. Let me 1107 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 1: read about bue Apron you have boy afriend I did not. 1108 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 1: I not kidding. I've listened. I listened to a few 1109 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,240 Speaker 1: year podcast and heard you talk about it and almost 1110 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: got it from my parents and my kitchen right now too, 1111 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,319 Speaker 1: Like if you walk on my kitchen, I saw, like, 1112 00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 1: literally it's in there. You're not lying, I have I'm 1113 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 1: not lying because they sent it in a box. It 1114 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,879 Speaker 1: comes and all the ingredients are there and you could 1115 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,440 Speaker 1: like cook for your Do you love your girlfriend not? 1116 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,640 Speaker 1: You've been together six Let's maybe it's religion. I don't know. 1117 00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: I don't know the deal to do you bet together 1118 00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 1: six years? Yes, I still talking about boy aprim but 1119 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 1: I'm post you've been together six years. She's got to 1120 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: be kind of pushing you a bit, like, oh, yeah, 1121 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: we we have to we have the talks about making 1122 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: We've definitely not just talks. We've had very serious talks 1123 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,759 Speaker 1: about that next stage in our relationship because we're not 1124 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 1: We both wanted it was a thing where too, when 1125 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,640 Speaker 1: you're an artist, I don't think that I could afford 1126 00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 1: to live in a shoe box with my girlfriend up 1127 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 1: until even a year ago. So now it's just like okay, 1128 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,479 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, she's a teacher, she's a good job, 1129 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,560 Speaker 1: but it's so yeah, it's you know, my life has 1130 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,279 Speaker 1: changed the past year year and a half, which means 1131 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,919 Speaker 1: that we could have more talks. I'm like, I lived 1132 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 1: with my parents for like two years here because I 1133 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 1: was making no money from music, and so when you're 1134 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: like living with your parents and and what I hope 1135 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: so what okay, and I hope it works out. I've 1136 00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 1: never bet it right. I'm sure it will. It will 1137 00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: to deal with someone who and I felt like in 1138 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,360 Speaker 1: the last hour of us talking, I can tell that 1139 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:10,399 Speaker 1: you're you're an artist person. There are there are performers, 1140 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: there are artists, there are musicians, and they're all the same, 1141 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: but they're really not. An artist likes a full representation 1142 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:21,160 Speaker 1: of them and they don't really focus on the accolades 1143 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: that come with it. They just want that product to 1144 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: be pure because it makes them feel pure. That's what 1145 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: I felt from you. Through talking to you. Would just 1146 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: said that's accurate. That is accurate, and too it's trust me. 1147 00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,360 Speaker 1: I want I want lots of people to know about Lanco. 1148 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,719 Speaker 1: I want Lando to be absolutely huge. I would love 1149 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,800 Speaker 1: to be a huge success, but if that's going to happen, 1150 00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: I want everyone to be on the same page. I 1151 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,279 Speaker 1: want the fans. If you have fans of audience, you 1152 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 1: want them. You want to feel like you all have 1153 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,680 Speaker 1: a common thread, which is this music. And so I 1154 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,000 Speaker 1: absolutely I want huge things for Lanco. I literally want 1155 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,400 Speaker 1: to be the biggest band there is in country music. 1156 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,440 Speaker 1: But if it's going to happen, I wanted to happen. 1157 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,320 Speaker 1: I want to be able to sleep and not I 1158 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:02,480 Speaker 1: want all of us be able to sleep in I 1159 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 1: and be like, we're proud of this. Well, speaking of 1160 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,160 Speaker 1: Blue Apron, not all ingredients are created equal. And that's 1161 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: why Blue Apron is awesome because I send you all 1162 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 1: the ingredients are fresh ingredients. It's affordable, there's variety, it's flexible, 1163 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:17,560 Speaker 1: it's easy, it's guaranteed. And they come and you can 1164 00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 1: make you cook your own meals and it's all pretty 1165 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: portioned out. And you make crazy stuff too that you 1166 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,279 Speaker 1: would never make because they have these great recipes and 1167 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,880 Speaker 1: ten dollars per person per meal. And I don't just 1168 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,319 Speaker 1: talk about it like literally and I didn't. I don't 1169 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: put it there because you came over it. It It was 1170 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:33,520 Speaker 1: just thereca. It just came in the mail. It comes 1171 00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: to the box, and um, you know, you cook it 1172 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,040 Speaker 1: and you're like you can trick your girl to and 1173 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,560 Speaker 1: be like hey when you come home, like I want 1174 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:44,799 Speaker 1: gonna cook. She has no idea what so uh, first 1175 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: three mills are free right now if you go blue 1176 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,000 Speaker 1: Apron dot com slash bones, Blue Apron dot com slash bones, 1177 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 1: Blue Apron A Better way to cook? Do you listen 1178 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,040 Speaker 1: to some of these are one or two of these 1179 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: before you come over? Yeah, who'd you hear? Ryan heard? Yeah? 1180 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: Those are the people I know. So I know Ryan, 1181 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 1: so listen to his right. Are a lot of light 1182 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: dude in the approach of just like I just want 1183 00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: my good next to be in the environment I want 1184 00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 1: to do the bet and Ryan are a lot of 1185 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,360 Speaker 1: like in that way. You look alike like I'm telling 1186 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:18,319 Speaker 1: you looking at you, I'm like, look at this little 1187 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: pretty boy. Come on, you gonna talk about some girls. 1188 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:24,680 Speaker 1: I need to grow my hair out, and kind of 1189 00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 1: jesus Us. Ryan looks like you know Jesus, And it's 1190 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: a good Ryan's a good Brian's a good one. Who 1191 00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,120 Speaker 1: about you here? Hid In Preston from Local, which that's 1192 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 1: a good dude. I literally Trip and I listened to 1193 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:39,840 Speaker 1: and Trip text him and I got a text h 1194 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: because I I did not know their story. I thought 1195 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,719 Speaker 1: it was so cool to hear just how hard talk 1196 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: about working hard and sticking with it and and uh 1197 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: believing what you're doing enough to stay with it that 1198 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: long through all the hardships. I was really inspired by it. 1199 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:56,680 Speaker 1: Success is not about getting it right. Success is about 1200 00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:01,919 Speaker 1: continuing after you get it wrong. M Yeah, that's it, 1201 00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,920 Speaker 1: because you're gonna get it wrong five hundred breaking times, 1202 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 1: and every time you get it wrong, you learn a 1203 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,319 Speaker 1: little something else until you learn just enough to get 1204 00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:13,520 Speaker 1: it right. And do you have the ability do you 1205 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: have the fortitude to continue hanging through all the misses 1206 00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: to collect all of this knowledge and experience and then 1207 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: put out American Love Story? Because that's what's gonna happen 1208 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,200 Speaker 1: to my friend. I'm telling you, I got a little 1209 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 1: thing called the ear right in my air. Likes American 1210 00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 1: Love Story. I think it's a good thing. It's a 1211 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: good song for you guys, like the whole thing, like 1212 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,680 Speaker 1: the song for radio, for the whole I hope. So 1213 00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:42,080 Speaker 1: because I'm excited about it. Tis a long long time 1214 00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: is fine? I mean, liss none play it. I was like, yeah, 1215 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: it's fine. I like you guys, and I thought you 1216 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: guys were good and I and I told you guys that. 1217 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, you guys are good. I gott 1218 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,960 Speaker 1: watch you playing, like, Hey, it's really good. Not that 1219 00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 1: long love times? Fine? Yeah, American love Story. And I 1220 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't lie, I wouldn't be it. Why don't I care? Yeah, 1221 00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: we well we just warmed you up then for American 1222 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 1: Lives Stay here. So what's the deal? Now you're out 1223 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: back back up planned tomorrow, you're back out in New 1224 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: Orleans with brothers Osborne Man. Well, is that American Lotores? 1225 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:18,520 Speaker 1: Is that gonna be the radio It's gonna be the 1226 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: next radio song, right, Yeah, it's the next single. Did 1227 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: I know that? Or did I just hope that? I 1228 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,640 Speaker 1: don't even know that I knew that. I think you 1229 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:29,000 Speaker 1: hope that along with everyone else maybe, and so, but 1230 00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,760 Speaker 1: it is, it's it was decide. I mean, it's we've 1231 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: all been wanting that and pushing for that for a 1232 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 1: long time. It's not the single right now, there's not that. 1233 00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: You don't have a single right now? Do you know? 1234 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: We haven't had an AD date yet for so I 1235 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:42,240 Speaker 1: think I was just hoping it. Well, your hopes came 1236 00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: true just for you. I'm a fan. I'm a fan 1237 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,960 Speaker 1: of UM and you guys are good, Thank you very much, man. 1238 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,840 Speaker 1: And so in the land of a lot of good 1239 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: stuff you get you know when you're a band and 1240 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:59,919 Speaker 1: it's rare now you know, UM not a lot of bands. Yeah, yeah, 1241 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,439 Speaker 1: and it's trust me. I'm I'm honored to being a band. 1242 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm really happy that I'm in a band because it's 1243 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,200 Speaker 1: such a different dynamic and it's such a cool dynamic, 1244 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 1: and it's it's and it's a cool dynamic to bring 1245 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,520 Speaker 1: to country music. That You're right, there's not a lot 1246 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 1: of so I'm I'm proud of being a band. Every 1247 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:20,880 Speaker 1: fifth fought with anyone in the band. No, we there's 1248 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,160 Speaker 1: been a some definite you know, confrontations that needs to 1249 00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,080 Speaker 1: be though. Yeah, it's a relation. It's like a marriage, absolutely, 1250 00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: and that's I think, you know, we actually there was 1251 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: a time. It's funny, Yeah, you got the infatuation stage. 1252 00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 1: Then you go to that stage where everyone's getting on 1253 00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: your nerves. And when you work through that and you 1254 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: learn how what kind of how everyone ticks and what 1255 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,480 Speaker 1: everyone's strengths and weaknesses are, then you kind of learned 1256 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,200 Speaker 1: what buttons not to push. And and if someone says 1257 00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 1: something that maybe a few years ago you would have 1258 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 1: like reacted to and picked a fight, you're like, you know, 1259 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,640 Speaker 1: that's just the way, that's how he said, that's how 1260 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,920 Speaker 1: he handles that. Or or if someone handles the situation 1261 00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 1: a certain way that you do not agree with or 1262 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 1: you would not do it that way, you kind of 1263 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:03,160 Speaker 1: und sstandable. That's how they are, and you come to 1264 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 1: terms with that. I think that also there was strength 1265 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,560 Speaker 1: we have and one reason that five guys we could 1266 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 1: stick together for so long. We do all have very 1267 01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:14,200 Speaker 1: different personalities we have, I mean, all five of us. 1268 01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,040 Speaker 1: If they were all guys like me, I think we 1269 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:19,360 Speaker 1: would kill each other. If they were all guys like Trip. Yeah, 1270 01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 1: if they're all guys like Chandler, I don't know if 1271 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,880 Speaker 1: they would kill each other. They might just like never 1272 01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 1: talk to each other. He's the quiet, passive one. Have 1273 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,000 Speaker 1: you seen all four of the other guys naked? Uh? 1274 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Like totally naked? It's just me, I'm sure naked. Have 1275 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:36,520 Speaker 1: you seen all of their genitalia? I don't think so. 1276 01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: Who'd gonna tell you? Have you not seen? Uh? Jared 1277 01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:44,920 Speaker 1: work on that and Eric s you I'll work on 1278 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 1: that tonight. Actually, just I'm just saying, you know, we're 1279 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:52,400 Speaker 1: on the wether a lot. I've seen. That's balls as 1280 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: part of it. You're just in a close starry You're 1281 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,720 Speaker 1: just in places you're tight and changing. See, we like 1282 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 1: to keep some mystery. That's a thing, like you know, Yeah, 1283 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: we don't want to We're gonna be together long time, 1284 01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 1: so we don't want to give it all the way 1285 01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: too early. That funny. Well, listen, good luck to you guys. Man, 1286 01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming by the house. Thank you. Thanks 1287 01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,320 Speaker 1: for having me. Man. Look, we kind of know each other, 1288 01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,880 Speaker 1: but not well enough to where like I'm pretty much 1289 01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: a stranger coming over to your house. So thank you 1290 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,920 Speaker 1: for inviting me, because I did peek in your bedroom 1291 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: and I could be totally crazy. Still anything wrong. You've 1292 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 1: got some nice guitars, I mean like they're tempting. You 1293 01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 1: do have nice guitars. Man. Thanks, I've been I've been lucky. 1294 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 1: I've you know, I've got some cool, some cool signed ones. Yeah. 1295 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 1: You're left handed though, and have some cool ones that 1296 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 1: I pull. Yeah. It's what sucks for me is I'm 1297 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 1: left handed and I can't play anybody else's guitar. And 1298 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 1: that sucks because if I'm like, hey, I want to 1299 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,000 Speaker 1: play something, I can't. Yeah, But what sucks for everybody 1300 01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 1: else has they come over and I don't have any 1301 01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,360 Speaker 1: right hand of guitars. Yeah, I sund like guitar downstairs 1302 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: about picking up. I was like, oh, never mind, it's 1303 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:58,680 Speaker 1: it's they're wrong. Yeah, so yeah, you know, I mean, 1304 01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:05,240 Speaker 1: who who else plays left handed? Uh? Hendrick? But he 1305 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,760 Speaker 1: played the Stranger still flipped. Yeah, so um, Maddie and 1306 01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:16,160 Speaker 1: Tay Tay plays left handed, Chase Bryant plays left handed? 1307 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:22,840 Speaker 1: Who else? Might you say, Kurt, We're very similar, curtain, 1308 01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: I are, yeah, pretty much the same thing. Does Paul 1309 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: McCartney played the bass left hand? He'd right? He does 1310 01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:30,200 Speaker 1: you ever read? You ever see it like and read? 1311 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of music you like? Like 1312 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:37,360 Speaker 1: just you? Um, but you ever like the study the 1313 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:38,919 Speaker 1: Beatles and now they would have played like six hours 1314 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:42,160 Speaker 1: a night in Germany. Oh yeah, yeah, they would play 1315 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:45,360 Speaker 1: for hours night. I saw one thing where this manager 1316 01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: came out early on to see them play and passed 1317 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: on him. He's either manager or someone that wanted to 1318 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 1: sign them and passed on him because he was like, 1319 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,720 Speaker 1: this whole electric guitar thing is a phase and big 1320 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: band music is a coming back. And it's like, man 1321 01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:59,080 Speaker 1: to be that guy and think you missed out on 1322 01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:02,480 Speaker 1: the Beatles. You know, everybody though, the biggest act were 1323 01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 1: all passed on at some point, and it's Luke was 1324 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: passed on. I mean everybody everybody was paying. Everybody had 1325 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,560 Speaker 1: failed singles like Yeah, I've talked to Luke many times, 1326 01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,320 Speaker 1: even off the year, Um, Luke and I are friendly. 1327 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: Off there would say it's a friend, but we're friendly. 1328 01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:18,720 Speaker 1: There's there are stages with me. I try to stay 1329 01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,320 Speaker 1: away from artists like personal so I can be objective 1330 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: and say things like long list to Night was just fine. Yeah, 1331 01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: you know it well, No matter what, I still want 1332 01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 1: you to say that if a song is fine, I 1333 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: want you to say, no matter how good friends we become, 1334 01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 1: if we have a fine song, please say it's fine, 1335 01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 1: because we need honesty. I would just not say anything 1336 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,919 Speaker 1: that would be that would be like, no, say it's fine. Man. 1337 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:41,080 Speaker 1: So with if you look at failed singles like crazy, 1338 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,360 Speaker 1: like crazy and he and people pass on on Mike Crazy. 1339 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 1: So my point was I have no point. Let's do 1340 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:53,400 Speaker 1: this quickly. Take everyone out of country music from your 1341 01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:56,120 Speaker 1: answer that you're not allowed to answer anything country. Okay, 1342 01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:00,680 Speaker 1: So three artists that you love that aren't country that 1343 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: are alive right now? Who are alive? Um? Do you 1344 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:11,680 Speaker 1: know Jason Isabel with that Countess country? You can say 1345 01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: whatever you want. There's not a referee here. I would 1346 01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: say Okay, well you said not countries, but he's kind 1347 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: of but he's like in that folk American Mary, I 1348 01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:24,640 Speaker 1: would say it's American who love Jason Isabel uh seeing 1349 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,360 Speaker 1: him a couple of times. The ryman um Ryan Adams 1350 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,280 Speaker 1: uh Art, you're an art, dude, I mean like Ryan 1351 01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,040 Speaker 1: Adams is pure art. I mean that's that's an art 1352 01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,920 Speaker 1: and you love them or you're you don't get it, 1353 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,240 Speaker 1: and sometimes I don't. Sometimes I don't get Ryan Adams, 1354 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 1: but sometimes I love it. Yeah, and then that's that's 1355 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,240 Speaker 1: the thing with me. It's like as long as even 1356 01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 1: with artists like that, there are things I don't get either, 1357 01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,320 Speaker 1: but you're more forgiving when you really love them as 1358 01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 1: an artist. You're like, that's not speaking to me, but 1359 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,520 Speaker 1: I know that this artist has the ability to as 1360 01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: opposed to just act where you're like, oh, I like 1361 01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,400 Speaker 1: some of those songs, and if there's not a song 1362 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,440 Speaker 1: you like, then you're done. You're like, whatever, I don't 1363 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: like that song. It's also the people that take chances 1364 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,280 Speaker 1: I admire in respect, even if I don't like the 1365 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,240 Speaker 1: chance they took. Yeah, yeah, totally absolutely, And you know 1366 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,840 Speaker 1: who is an artist? And I want one more before 1367 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 1: I before I want to, I mean another artist, it's 1368 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:19,000 Speaker 1: not in country that you're like, Okay, Um, you know 1369 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: I like cold Play. I've seen them freaking awesome. Yeah, 1370 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 1: and they they're that's one, you know, Ryan Adams, Jason's 1371 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Bill are more. Yeah, they're more artsy and more you know, 1372 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:30,320 Speaker 1: kind of more cold Play was artsy than when they 1373 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:33,880 Speaker 1: came out Super arts. So I love cold Plays combination 1374 01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:37,360 Speaker 1: of the arts nests and the authenticity, but also their 1375 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,520 Speaker 1: live show is what I would want out of the 1376 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: live show. And they're so I mean, they're so entertaining 1377 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 1: and so charismatic on stage and so captivating. So those 1378 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,960 Speaker 1: would be my three guy called play So good. Yes, 1379 01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:50,440 Speaker 1: every part of them is so good. Like Chris Martin's 1380 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 1: a nut, by the way, and I've met chrismartin a 1381 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,560 Speaker 1: couple of times. He's nuts. He's really nice, he's nuts. 1382 01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:00,440 Speaker 1: But to be an artist, you're nuts, like I said earlier, 1383 01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:05,400 Speaker 1: and in our profession you realize that too, that to 1384 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 1: be super creative, you have got to have something inside 1385 01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 1: of you that's different than everyone else. And when you're 1386 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 1: different than everyone else, you're different than everyone else. And 1387 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,800 Speaker 1: it's tough, and I think that if you're like that, 1388 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,400 Speaker 1: that's why I'm just so thankful to be an artist, 1389 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 1: because I've always kind of known I was different than 1390 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 1: everyone else. But when you actually it's your job to 1391 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 1: be different everyone else and you're responsible for it, it's 1392 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of captivating. It's it's freeing from this talk here, 1393 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,440 Speaker 1: and I'll go to Mike d for his thoughts in 1394 01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: a second too. I don't really know I was getting 1395 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 1: into it this. Frankly, I was like, yeah, I'll bring 1396 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 1: her up and talk to him. Um, but I don't 1397 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:44,720 Speaker 1: like I there's an artist element that I respect more 1398 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,920 Speaker 1: about the band now, thank you. Then just like, hey, 1399 01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: let's make a man and put out some songs. Yeah. 1400 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,360 Speaker 1: You can't trick me either, because I'm amazing. Yeah, I 1401 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 1: mean you see that sniff out the bull crap. Sometimes 1402 01:06:57,560 --> 01:06:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, this is a joke. Yeah, and that's I'm 1403 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 1: glad you see that. That's one of the biggest things 1404 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:02,960 Speaker 1: we talked about that and that's we try and do 1405 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,640 Speaker 1: video series stuff. We were to get across that, dude, 1406 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:08,360 Speaker 1: But you know what I'm telling you, don't waste your 1407 01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:10,200 Speaker 1: time with it. Just put out good songs and your 1408 01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,680 Speaker 1: fans will then find it and then everyone like Coldplay, 1409 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,720 Speaker 1: do you think people knew it first? It took years 1410 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:18,680 Speaker 1: first to figure it out. Don't focus on that because 1411 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 1: nobody cares. Also, nobody cares, like really nobody cares. Man 1412 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,760 Speaker 1: give them a song, they find the song, they learn 1413 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:31,080 Speaker 1: more about you to give him another song. They learned. 1414 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Then you have fans like really, so and we've accepted, 1415 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,440 Speaker 1: we've accepted, you know what what our path is and 1416 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 1: what we're trying to do. It's gonna take time. It's 1417 01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,040 Speaker 1: gonna take work because it is. It is. It's you 1418 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 1: have a relationship with your fans, and there's that first 1419 01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 1: stage like the first singles, connect, the first date. Then 1420 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, if you have a hit, that's kind of 1421 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:49,720 Speaker 1: like and you just keep moving along, and it takes 1422 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 1: an album or two for people to really understand and 1423 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,640 Speaker 1: really I mean, and I think artists keep evolving and 1424 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,440 Speaker 1: it really is a relationship with fans, and but it 1425 01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:00,160 Speaker 1: takes a while. I think when you take that app 1426 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:01,760 Speaker 1: that does take off for people to figure out who 1427 01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 1: you are and then people really love who you are 1428 01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,040 Speaker 1: and stay with you. But if you do that, I 1429 01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,680 Speaker 1: think that then there's more longevity because your fans that 1430 01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 1: are not just like, oh, I love that song. It's cool, 1431 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,520 Speaker 1: it's catchy, it's I really love Land. I appreciate them. 1432 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,519 Speaker 1: I like to work, you know whatever it is, um, 1433 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,439 Speaker 1: but it's gotta start with just yeah, you're right. Put 1434 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 1: out some songs. People like them to listen, and nobody 1435 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 1: fell in love with could play because of their art. 1436 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 1: They fell in love with Yellow was freaking off exactly. 1437 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 1: You gotta trust me. I know you gotta have hit. 1438 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just that, you gotta have it. It's 1439 01:08:30,840 --> 01:08:34,960 Speaker 1: the name. Uh, we're run out of time. But who's 1440 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: in your class of artists? Not classes and good or bad? 1441 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,400 Speaker 1: But you guys kind of came into this earth together 1442 01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,960 Speaker 1: of music signing at the same time, like a few 1443 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 1: artists could they could have many hits and then but 1444 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:49,759 Speaker 1: who do you consider to be in your class? Well, 1445 01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,479 Speaker 1: you know Maren she signed like right around the same 1446 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: time we did. Now she has just exploded. She's coming 1447 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,880 Speaker 1: in next week. Yeah, she's she's awesome. We signed. You 1448 01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: never heard of her? She she signed at the same time, 1449 01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,640 Speaker 1: But I would I mean, we signed, and then we 1450 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,919 Speaker 1: took a while to actually get things. Give me some answers. 1451 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:13,759 Speaker 1: Same class Maren Ryan. I would consider Ryan heard, Kane Brown, 1452 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:20,120 Speaker 1: Jordan reagor uh like Brooke Eden. I'm thinking of people 1453 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: that were like on radio to the same time. That's 1454 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm asking for. So in five years we're 1455 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,320 Speaker 1: gonna be like we were in the same because all 1456 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 1: the guys are in different class. You know that the 1457 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,560 Speaker 1: Cole and Tyler farrs that you know, there are a 1458 01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: lot of these guys that kind of came up together 1459 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 1: the things that I was talking about earlier. I just 1460 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,120 Speaker 1: want to mention this before we get off of this, 1461 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:39,400 Speaker 1: is that when I was talking about artists, what I 1462 01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:46,160 Speaker 1: appreciate is people that go and take chances and being 1463 01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:49,599 Speaker 1: okay with failure as long as they took the shot 1464 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 1: that felt good and felt right to them. He didn't 1465 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,040 Speaker 1: listen to a lot of people going, hey, this isn't 1466 01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: gonna work on the radio. And who's done that recently 1467 01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:04,479 Speaker 1: and without commercial success to this point is Aubrey Sellers. Yeah, 1468 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:08,519 Speaker 1: and I'm a big fan of her record. Yeah, I've 1469 01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:11,920 Speaker 1: never I've never maybe i've seen her, I have that. 1470 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen her. I don't think 1471 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: it's there alive. But I love a record because nobody 1472 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:20,839 Speaker 1: else it's it's a full like country, bluegrass blues record. 1473 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,760 Speaker 1: They're no acoustics, no doubt about it. It's a country record, 1474 01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,519 Speaker 1: but it sounds like nothing else. And you know what, 1475 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,240 Speaker 1: it could fall on its face and no wake aby it, 1476 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 1: or it could really switch up an entire format. It's 1477 01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:35,599 Speaker 1: that kind of thing totally. The fact that she puts 1478 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:39,280 Speaker 1: herself out there to fail makes me love it. I 1479 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 1: love failure. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's it's just 1480 01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: and it's more interesting than just someone who even if 1481 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,040 Speaker 1: it works, it's like that you just don't want to 1482 01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 1: be a carbon copy of something. You don't want to 1483 01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 1: be like so and so Junior. You know, if there's 1484 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 1: a floor, you don't want to be Florger's line, Junior L. 1485 01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 1: We definitely definitely don't want Flora Georgia line first, like pease, 1486 01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,160 Speaker 1: God go ahead. But that's I think as an artist, 1487 01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:02,960 Speaker 1: if you're an artist, it's like you want to work 1488 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,120 Speaker 1: and you want to be successful. Yes, you want everyone 1489 01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:07,439 Speaker 1: to love you know who you are, but if you're 1490 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,480 Speaker 1: gonna do what you wanted to be because your original 1491 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,800 Speaker 1: and you offered something that other people weren't offering and 1492 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,200 Speaker 1: so yeah, and aubrus Sellers absolutely does that. I have 1493 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,479 Speaker 1: decided you are the Chris Martin country music to this right, 1494 01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:23,160 Speaker 1: I'll take it a little weird. You can sing, you're 1495 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,320 Speaker 1: passionate about it, like it all right. Good to see you, man, 1496 01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:27,800 Speaker 1: Good to see you. Thank you so much for having 1497 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:33,479 Speaker 1: men you download American Love Story down download it. He's 1498 01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,960 Speaker 1: on those streams. That's that's all. It's like Facebook do 1499 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,960 Speaker 1: metric full of craphic. But I'm glad you have much 1500 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 1: stream it right downloaded. That's where the key is. I 1501 01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: agree downloading. If you love an artist, download their music, 1502 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,679 Speaker 1: because I agree those real money. You know. You guys 1503 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,280 Speaker 1: gotta eat. Yeah, you gotta eat, and you gotta have 1504 01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 1: money for the next record. Oh that's like it's fifty 1505 01:11:55,920 --> 01:12:04,559 Speaker 1: million straight. Yeah, all right. Any questions, Ran, We've you've 1506 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,840 Speaker 1: been listening for? How long after that first meeting with 1507 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,360 Speaker 1: Jay did you quit your Bridge Stone job? Um? A 1508 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,880 Speaker 1: few months? Uh? Well I quit when he finally I 1509 01:12:14,040 --> 01:12:15,960 Speaker 1: started riding with him and some other people for a 1510 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,519 Speaker 1: few months and then he said, hey, you guys ready 1511 01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:19,920 Speaker 1: to come in here and make a record next week. 1512 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 1: That was how much notice we had. We were like sure, 1513 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 1: Like how long I'm gonna be in the studios? Like, 1514 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,479 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll stay in here until it's done. But 1515 01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: two weeks, three weeks with it, so we all kind 1516 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,800 Speaker 1: of could. You can't ask for three weeks off work. 1517 01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,120 Speaker 1: We all kind of lost our jobs after that. That's 1518 01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 1: why you have You have those jobs, you can lose them. 1519 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,880 Speaker 1: What were you making a bridge stone? You're working at 1520 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:46,559 Speaker 1: that wage like says uh seven eight bucks an hour 1521 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,760 Speaker 1: and free hot dogs you got the end of the 1522 01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,439 Speaker 1: night there and yeah, and I know you got one 1523 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 1: free hot dog when if you wanted. And in the 1524 01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:55,800 Speaker 1: night after they counted what you didn't sell, you could 1525 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,720 Speaker 1: have a burger. Whatever you didn't sell. Was well, it 1526 01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,600 Speaker 1: wasn't really a fair game, but it kind of was, 1527 01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:01,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, what are they gonna do 1528 01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,400 Speaker 1: with it? Yea, and by law they can't donate it. Yeah, 1529 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: they have to throw it out right. They donated to me. Yeah, 1530 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 1: you'll barely got donation, Mike. One more question is anything 1531 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 1: else you want to ask? How do you feel about it? 1532 01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:13,719 Speaker 1: You go, what do you think? I think this guy's 1533 01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,639 Speaker 1: he can't hear us? You think there's full of craping? 1534 01:13:16,040 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 1: Think I'm gonna put him back here, Okay, put it back. Yeah. Uh, 1535 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,080 Speaker 1: good to see you. Good to see you, man, think 1536 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:26,040 Speaker 1: so much. Download go see Lanko is that was going 1537 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,800 Speaker 1: to the river one piece of advice. Really good as 1538 01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 1: you get a hit solo. Hope my bands shout. All 1539 01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,880 Speaker 1: these other guys did the guys. I like you guys, 1540 01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:43,880 Speaker 1: Thank you man, but I'm only about four of you, right, 1541 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:46,080 Speaker 1: we gotta find the missing link. I don't. Yeah, that's 1542 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,640 Speaker 1: the weird. Last time I tell you guys outside the 1543 01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: hotel inside like the Hilton. Yeah, it's freezing cold, whiting 1544 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 1: on our car. Yeah, I was like CRUs or whatever. 1545 01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:56,000 Speaker 1: It was something like it was real brief. We were 1546 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,320 Speaker 1: like trying to say hi, but yeah, we were all 1547 01:13:57,360 --> 01:14:01,880 Speaker 1: freezing and it was like yeah, good good bye. All right, 1548 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,040 Speaker 1: we'll see you next time. I have thirty is over. 1549 01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:08,599 Speaker 1: Thanks our sponsors, Blue Apron Sleep number. We go buy 1550 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,719 Speaker 1: all that stuff and download Lanco. We go watch Lanko 1551 01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,639 Speaker 1: and tattoo Lanko on your body, all that stuff, yeah, 1552 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:18,680 Speaker 1: especially that one. We'll see. We'll see you guys next time. Thanks. 1553 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:25,400 Speaker 1: Thirty ones up by learning good