1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: R and B Money. Honey, we are thanks take valotility. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: We are the authority on all R and. 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: B ladies and gentlemen. 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: My name is Tank Valentine. This the R and B 5 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 2: Money Podcast. It's the authority on all things R and 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: B and instruments and instrumentation. See see see A lot 7 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 2: of y'all. Okay, are not well versed in the ways 8 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: of musicianship. Okay, you're standing on your drip. Huh you 9 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: you you might be standing on the tune. I ain't 10 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: mad at you stand on the tune. You know what 11 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: I'm saying. You know you you're standing on your social media's, 12 00:00:53,960 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 2: but you're not standing on uh the gifts that personify. 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: The thing that we do. How many instruments do you play? 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: M No? 15 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 3: Huh. 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Ladies out there was skin flut, that's all you play? 17 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: Huh nothing? 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 3: Huh? 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: This nigga's attacking, Yeah. 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: This this this man right here, this gentleman right here. 21 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, you play pimping, that's all you do. That's 22 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: that's the don play paper. We did. We don't pause. 23 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: That's the only that's what we don't do. We don't pause. 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 4: I'm not talking about you. 25 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: We gotta fell in the building. 26 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: Huh. 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: He don't play about his musicianship, he don't play about 28 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 2: his artistry, and the damn should don't play by this name. 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: Give it up for my brother. Yeah, my sack, my, yeah. 30 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: How you doing, yo? This man's thumach. 31 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 5: You Yeah, I got regular niggas. 32 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: You have to start listen to your story was like this. 33 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: That's a love language. 34 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: Wow. 35 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 5: That okay, I got it. So there's certain chords that 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 5: you play because you're you. Have we ever talked about that. 37 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 3: In the show. 38 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: Listen, man, my thumb is a lovel. It's gonna age. Well, 39 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 2: I'm getting ready to make a page from my yo 40 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: right here, right here. 41 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 5: Wow, you better make the page before this shipbody somebody else. 42 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: I got all kind of fake dumb as. 43 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,360 Speaker 2: Now, oh my brother. First of all, thank you man, 44 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: thank you for coming. 45 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: Man. 46 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. 47 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 5: I feel so comfortable. I'm gonna take my glass. 48 00:02:53,960 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you've been doing some cool stuff, man, Thank you, 49 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 6: really cool stuff, like so cool that I had to, 50 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 6: you know, I had to. 51 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: Be a part of it, and I appreciate that much. 52 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 2: One, you know, I want to start there and then 53 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 2: we'll we'll go back to the beginning, get it and 54 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: get into all the intricacies of of where you're from, 55 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: how you got your name, all of that cool stuff. 56 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: But that yams nigga when I say a vibe. 57 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: Crazy Like a lot of people explore the nineties and 58 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: you know, they they you know, they figured you know, 59 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 2: they figure out their way to just kind of snatch 60 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: some of the nuance and you know and just like, Okay, 61 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: I get it. I get what you're trying to do. 62 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: I get dead on. I felt like I was in Heigho, 63 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: I was graduating high school all over again. 64 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 5: That was a very authentic record. Oh many, thank you man, 65 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: Devin Morrison. I can't even take all of that compliment. 66 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, absolutely absolutely he was the student. 67 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: But it's like, what it made me realize is that 68 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: people are so hungry for that energy. Because just putting 69 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 2: out the word like y'all might need to sing this, 70 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,799 Speaker 2: it just went crazy. Shout out to Charlie Wilson because 71 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: that was the first that was my first time here. 72 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: That that's what opened my ears. I was like, what 73 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: is Charlie singing? First of all, his voice is he's 74 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: out of control. I'm like his attitude, you know, what 75 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: I'm saying. But then to go back to the originally, 76 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: Oh shit, I said, oh, this needs to be a thing, 77 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: and you made it a thing. This needs to be 78 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: a thing. 79 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping that there were millions of you know, 80 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: interactions and sales and lots of show money. 81 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 5: And uptick and uptick that's what they called it. 82 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: So there was plenty of uptick for for you too, 83 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: my friend, because y'all did that. 84 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, how did that? How did that record come back? 85 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 5: Something like this with just men talking and then making 86 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 5: music at the same time. 87 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: Right. 88 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 5: I used to make a lot of videos about my 89 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 5: observations when I travel, and I was like, in Africa 90 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 5: they got the yams that the women in America getting 91 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 5: surgery to get. That was the conversation, right, And so 92 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 5: I'm always talking about yams. And she got a yamtation 93 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 5: back there and a Yamborghini Green Eggs and Yam. That's 94 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 5: just been how I've spoken to that. You know, those 95 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 5: are past cars and Borghini right there. And so Devin, 96 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 5: being an equally hilarious young man, made an instrumental called 97 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 5: Yams and then we started to have a conversation over 98 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 5: this instrumental and you know, we were talking in tone, 99 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 5: and then we began to sing a little bit, and 100 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 5: then I guess eventually a song was birthed. You know, 101 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 5: I heard I'm supposed to do this when I talk 102 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 5: to people. 103 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: I like that, but supposed to. 104 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 5: Look left and right when you media training. That's all 105 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 5: these songs. Were just having fun, you know what I'm saying. 106 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 5: And like Devin is a student of commission in all 107 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 5: things nineties, you know, and you can absolutely he can 108 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 5: hear it's crazy, and so like usual, I'm just having fun, 109 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. Like he left and then 110 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 5: he texts back a bridge. I text back a response 111 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: to the bridge. He texts back, uh damn colder or 112 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 5: something like that. And then I put a sax solo 113 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 5: on it, and then Max here is it, my bass 114 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 5: player friend, and he's like, you gotta put this out, bro, 115 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 5: And he's telling me for years. 116 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: He's like, bro, cool seven years? What for three years? Maybe? 117 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah? Yeah? 118 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 5: Every year we play it during Thanksgivings. Max, you know, 119 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:57,359 Speaker 5: he would always do every Thanksgiving. Yes, He's like, bro, record, 120 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 5: He's like, come on, stop this drop this record. Just 121 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 5: it's like come on. We was having fun like, I 122 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 5: don't want to do all that. Finally, we just you 123 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 5: were taking yourself too serious. 124 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: Yes, I was, because we fight musicianship, we fight for 125 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: the cool. It's the code of musicians just don't want 126 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: to seem outside of the realm of true create creativity. 127 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: But it's like, when you're having your most fun, you're 128 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 2: probably being your most creative because it's it's not overthinking anything, 129 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: it's just it's just flowing, allowing it to be whatever 130 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 2: the moment calls for. 131 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 5: I think the first musician that I met that I 132 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 5: felt like was truly having fun was t Pain was 133 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 5: having a good time. Great example, when I met Tea 134 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 5: pay because at first I didn't realize how much of 135 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 5: a musician he was because nobody did, because you just 136 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 5: kind of wrote it off, just the public's ignorance of 137 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 5: what greatness really is. And then I meet him and 138 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 5: I'm in a studio with him, I'm like, oh shit, 139 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: this niggas amazing. 140 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: He's just having a good fucking time. 141 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 7: At no point was he serious at any moment during 142 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 7: the session, anytime I've ever run into him. He's just 143 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,559 Speaker 7: a fun, loving guy having a good ass time making 144 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 7: amazing music. And I think that it gave me a 145 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 7: sense of understanding freedom musically to me when I when 146 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 7: I you know, when I met him, I was just like, damn, 147 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 7: this is he's in a very free space. 148 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to add a person to your statement that 149 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 2: it's just that are animal spirit spirit animals in Jazzy 150 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: fat Oh yeah, Jazzy. 151 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: The Fizzle, the Fizzle Finz. 152 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Jazzy Fizzle been having a good time, great 153 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: respect always. 154 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: Oh boy, he's always having a good time. Briefcase Jazzy always. 155 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: But I even say that to to you and my 156 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 2: own self, like I've made great music under duress, but. 157 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: When I've had fun making music, that's what. 158 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 5: If you drop some of those fucking around records, we 159 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 5: probably go to the movie. 160 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: We have a yeah challenge, go to the moon this video. 161 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 5: Man, he drops these records thumb. 162 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: So what happens? 163 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 5: Okay, you put the record out and I've always liked your. 164 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: Music, thank you. 165 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 5: So I had heard the record before and then I 166 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 5: forgot about the record and heard it again in a 167 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,839 Speaker 5: new light through. 168 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: Fedy Yeah mm hmm. How does that process go though? 169 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 8: Does is it? 170 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 7: Is it literally just him taking the record and doing 171 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 7: his own thing. With it, or did he reach out 172 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 7: to y'all or like, you know, because this is just 173 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 7: a we're in a new music business. We're in a 174 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 7: I'll take care of it when it gets crack, you 175 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 7: know what I mean, or you know, we'll chase it 176 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 7: once it's cracking, whatever that is, you know what I mean? 177 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 7: So how did how was that process and were you 178 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 7: guys involved in his release of it? 179 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: Well? 180 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 5: I was on the road at the time, so all 181 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 5: I did was receive a text of the record and 182 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, that's cool. 183 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. 184 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 5: And so next thing I know, I get another text saying, YO, 185 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 5: is it cool if he drops it? I'm like sure, 186 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 5: cause again it's a record that we had fun with, 187 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 5: so I'm not it's not yes, you know what I mean. 188 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 5: It's not like it's not your baby. I was like, Yo, 189 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 5: have some fun with it. He had fun with it, 190 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 5: and even the cored choices he did, I thought it 191 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 5: was like hilarious the way he reinterpreted it. Me and 192 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 5: Devon having a good time, because Devon is more of 193 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 5: a stickler for you know, the arts, and he's like, 194 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 5: he didn't do the cord bir change seven should have 195 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 5: been a knife. I'm like, Yo, this is fire, you 196 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 5: know what I mean. So not to say Devin in 197 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 5: like it later on, but I feel like I'm always 198 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 5: down to just let art, just let it out, let 199 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 5: the people decide what happens to it. And people would 200 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 5: always ask me, we you but heard about it getting 201 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 5: even larger with Fetti. I'm just like, no, that's cool. 202 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 5: There's different audiences because I felt like it was a 203 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 5: huge record. 204 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: I didn't know Feedti had that record out. You didn't 205 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 2: know Ship when I did it. When we started the 206 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 2: challenge and did all that. Mine was Charlie Wilson. And 207 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 2: then and then people I saw people started attacking me like, yeah, 208 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: you need to give Freeddi Wap his credit. 209 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it got wild. I was like, 210 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: give Freddie Wap what credit? I was like, I was like, 211 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: this is day song. Yeah. 212 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 5: I knew Fetty's version through my son, because you know 213 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 5: what I'm saying, Like it was yeah, the younger generation, 214 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 5: like I knew your record through me knowing your music. 215 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 5: I knew his version through my son, you know what 216 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 5: I mean. So that was like my rediscovery of it. 217 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, Ship, wait, I know the song 218 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: I was like, wait a minute, you know what I mean? 219 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: So they cuts you out. They thought they. 220 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: Was like, you do you ain't you ain't tapping No, Fettie, 221 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: you ain't tapped in. 222 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: I like Fetty Way. I like the boy. 223 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 2: He got good songs, but he ain't not to originate 224 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: of this. His essence ain't why I fell in love 225 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: with this. 226 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: That was your argument. That was my argument. 227 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 5: Wastead of just been like, you know what, y'all wasn't 228 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 5: tapped in. 229 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know about the I was tapped into the sauce. Hallelujah. 230 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: Oh my my mind. There you go. Duplicators were replicators. 231 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: Wow. 232 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: But I went to the originator. I went to the sauce. 233 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 2: Look to the heels, from which comes my my god, so. 234 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 5: The gold around my next to talk, Let's go back 235 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 5: to the beginning. 236 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: Bro, Let's go back to the beginning, to this all 237 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: started for you, to where you know, I like to say, 238 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: when somebody looked at you and say that boy gonna 239 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: be some I'm like that boy got it? 240 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: Or you even said you even said to yourself, I'm 241 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: kind of nice. Yeah, yeah, the beginning. 242 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think when I was eight years old, right, 243 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:13,719 Speaker 5: this is back to the church days. 244 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's you go there, We're going to go there. 245 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 5: I used to always ignore the sermon and watch the musicians. Yeah, 246 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 5: that was my whole bot because they had their own 247 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 5: little community, communicating with the hand signals and not dressing 248 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 5: in church clothes. And I was like, they're having fun. 249 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 5: I like this. I don't want to hear this. I'm 250 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 5: eight years old. Of course I want to play tag 251 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 5: at the in the church. And so my parents noticed 252 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 5: that I was only gravitating towards this, and we're saying, like, 253 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 5: we got to pray over your hands. If you want 254 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,199 Speaker 5: to be in the music industry or the music you know, ministry, 255 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 5: let's make sure you're doing it right. So from there 256 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 5: they saw that I had an affinity for learning music. Quickly, 257 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 5: I'm hopping on the drums, I had natural rhythm. I 258 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 5: was hopping on the keys. I wasn't singing yet, but 259 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 5: I was just trying to play all the instruments, pick 260 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 5: the bass, pick it whatever. And They're like, Okay, he 261 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 5: gonna be somebody someday. That's when that started cool. And 262 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 5: so then the next iteration of that was when I 263 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 5: had to choose a related arts in middle school, meaning 264 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 5: you want to paint or you want to be in 265 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 5: a band. And so I was deciding. And we had 266 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 5: a class in our school that always had a subsidute teacher. 267 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 5: Because she never showed up in this particular subsidute teacher. 268 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 5: She had a little Yamborghini behind her. 269 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: All right, made you more interested in the class. I said, yeah, 270 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,359 Speaker 1: what's her story? So let's have a guy. 271 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 5: I was like a seventh eighth story. 272 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to know you know what I'm saying. 273 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 5: I said something in my spirit she might have needed. 274 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: She made need a management. 275 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 5: I didn't even know that word back then, but I 276 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 5: wanted to manage something. 277 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: For you to play over her hands from his hands. 278 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, we'll get there. I'm asking my boys, like, yo, 279 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 5: how do I get her heart? And he said, we 280 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: gotta do some research. I look at her binder. It's 281 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 5: a picture of Najie Davis and the binder. I hit 282 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 5: the Googles and I said, that's a saxophone player. I 283 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: want to be in the band. 284 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: Cool. 285 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 5: And so I'm in the band. I'm learning saxophone, like 286 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 5: I need to learn saxophone. Every Sunday, I'm like ear 287 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 5: pressed on the TV. Trying to like figure that out. Okay, cool, 288 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:30,479 Speaker 5: I'm gonna rady all that. I get sweet a saxophone. 289 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 5: I get sweet enough to learn my first song on saxophone, 290 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 5: which was Naked Marcus Houston. Wow, easy scale and I 291 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 5: can learn that, learned it, played it for and she 292 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 5: was like, huh, young man, you played naked for. I 293 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 5: like this guy's savage. Yeah, savage. You know the niggas 294 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 5: who wrote naked is sitting right next to you. I 295 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 5: promise on everything. 296 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 4: That's hilarious. 297 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: I was just listening to this term. 298 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 5: I'm like the nigga rot to produce the song that 299 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 5: you're talking about. Rhyme, that is cool. I'm putting my 300 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 5: chades back. This is too vulnerable. This is awesome, This 301 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 5: is too intimate. That hilarious. 302 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 8: To be young, to be young, to. 303 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: Be young man? What Yeah, that's the truth. You play 304 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 1: naked to the teacher I did. 305 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 5: This is sick. 306 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: You him, you are him? This is great. What a 307 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: good day. 308 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 5: Fuck learn sex, and then I'm gonna play naked and 309 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 5: tell her exactly what I would. 310 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: I would like to do. If there's any detention you 311 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: got for me, any extra credit? My next question is 312 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: she doing for the TN. 313 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: Now think where his music and musicianship takes us, but 314 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 2: it takes your places. 315 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: Around. 316 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 5: I'll be reflecting, like, man, we can really do a lot. 317 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 8: Man. 318 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, substitute teacher, wasn't there a lot? So cool? All 319 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 5: I was left with was the instrument. Continued to play. 320 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 5: It got kicked out of class a lot because I 321 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 5: wanted to learn other songs that you wrote unknowingly, and 322 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: so that's all I would do during class, Listen on 323 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 5: line wire whatever mixtape somebody brought me on the school. 324 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 5: You know what I mean, what's that? Okay, that's such 325 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 5: and such about. 326 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: To learn that? 327 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 5: That's all I did that a class cool. But then 328 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 5: I had a substitute teacher for band one day. It 329 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 5: was this dude, mister Hulkam, big black dude, listen to 330 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 5: Charlie Parker type of guy. And he was like, you 331 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 5: gonna be something. I'm not gonna kick you out today. 332 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put you into jazz band. So he puts 333 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 5: me in the jazz band and it's way better for 334 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 5: me because I can improve. And the best part was 335 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 5: that partner sheet music and it was like make it up. 336 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 5: I said, oh this for me. So every day, I 337 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 5: get to just make a solo up. Then I can 338 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 5: stay in class and just get that out. And I 339 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 5: feel like from there it just kept progressing. I'm like, 340 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 5: I don't want a jazz band, I want my own band. 341 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 5: I don't want to go to this college. I want 342 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 5: to drop out of college. It just kind of kept 343 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 5: compounding from there. 344 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 2: I feel like your generation was the generation that kind 345 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: of reshaped the idea of how you learn to play instruments, 346 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: because before your generation, it was always very much the 347 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 2: structure of Bach and Beethoven. It was just very much 348 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 2: fingers on the Middle Sea, thumb on the Middle Sea, 349 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: and you move from there. But I think your generation 350 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 2: started a thing where the music needed to meet the individual, 351 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Because like one of the 352 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: teachers that teaches my son, like, she was like, well, 353 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 2: what do you like And he's like, well, I like 354 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: Spider Man and she was like, okay, well let's learn 355 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 2: Spider Man. Yeah, And so he's he's excited. He's learning 356 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: the theory to Spider Man. But in his mind, he's 357 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: just learning Spider Man, learning Spider Man, but he's learning 358 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: all of the theory. He understands where the key. 359 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 5: Is piquing someone's interest, and if they taught us that way, 360 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 5: we wouldn't learn so much more. 361 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 2: But it was everything was this is how it's always been. 362 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 2: It was so much tradition, and I think your generation 363 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 2: was was the start of breath. 364 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 5: And if you come across a Yamborghini, Yamborghinia making you 365 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 5: come across want. 366 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: To learn, do wrong wrong. 367 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 5: So you're at college, you're at college, you're not, but 368 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 5: you're at Yeah, I'm at there. I think I wouldn't 369 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: say I felt like the man, but I knew I 370 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 5: was an outlier. I used to longboard and play saxophone 371 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 5: at the same time. 372 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: Hold on, man, that's. 373 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 5: Like that image is around on the net. You were 374 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 5: andre three thousand as what you saying, we go now 375 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 5: we're painting it. 376 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: Is he rich or homeless? 377 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 4: Hey man, maybe he's both because it's. 378 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 5: That is the dynamic this basketball photo you're making right now. 379 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's just hilarious. Bron What's I supposed to 380 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 5: be six supposed to be brothers. I'm supposed to be 381 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 5: your height? As what's going on? 382 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: He said? Quit the monkey coup? Oh Mann, I didn't 383 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: think it was gonna be like sorry, you had you 384 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: all had a question reaching home. 385 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: I was longboarding, but it's like ro Virginia. 386 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a hilarious line. 387 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 2: But it's like those eclectic type things and guys like 388 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 2: all the girls are like, who's the guy to be 389 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 2: riding a skateboard playing the saxophone? 390 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I don't know I got 391 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: practice right now. I don't know who that niggas, you 392 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 393 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 2: But this guy, Eric Benney kind of guy would get 394 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: all the yams. 395 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: It used to be so mad at you. It wasn't 396 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: you the guy's like, wait a minute. 397 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,159 Speaker 5: I was just trying to find my way, man, you know, 398 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 5: and uh I think I found. 399 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 2: So does that does that lead to any discovery and 400 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: that college space or is that after the fact in 401 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: terms of, you know, getting into the business or. 402 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: Drop your own music. 403 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 5: I did, but I think it was beautiful that I 404 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 5: could learn how trash it was, you know what I'm saying. 405 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 5: In my college humbled me because there were real artists 406 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 5: in college with clothing lines and with software to mix 407 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 5: their music and with just a lot of professional artistisms. 408 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 5: And so I was getting to college thinking I was 409 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 5: like the best in the world. All this like confidence 410 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 5: or whatever, but dropping music and losing talent competitions and 411 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 5: all that. 412 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: I liked that. I was like, oh, this is oh, 413 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: you're taking ls too. 414 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 5: I was taking so many l's, collecting them as I 415 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 5: was long, yeah, excuse me. 416 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 417 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 5: And so from that, the game theory and me activated 418 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 5: or I was like, I got to defeat you. I 419 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 5: got to not lose this talent competition. I need to 420 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 5: figure out my niche to figure out how to win. 421 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 5: And I credit college for that because I said, Okay, 422 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 5: I got to make beats from scratch because I'm really 423 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 5: good off the top of my head. Oh, I got 424 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 5: to show you how many instruments I can play. I 425 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 5: got to make a song about you right here, so 426 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 5: you know, no one else can do this. And after 427 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 5: that I got man comfortable. I was like, nobody can 428 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 5: do this because nobody is doing this. Then I started 429 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 5: to win, and then I was like, okay, I needed 430 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 5: those losses to appreciate this win. 431 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, because I was. 432 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: I think I was singing baby faces songs. Girls would 433 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: ask me to sing to them. 434 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 5: The timbre of your voice just told me a lot. 435 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you just you just went straight around. 436 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: I was only doing original gospel music at the time. 437 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: So if you wanted, if you wanted to know anything 438 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 2: about Jesus, I could hook you up. 439 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 5: The movie makes sense. 440 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: Now you want a little Holy GOLs right there for 441 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 2: you in a minute. You want to love song covers, 442 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 2: I hadn't hadn't even gotten to the space to where 443 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: I had even explored that part of my creativity. 444 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: Yet, that's cool. I just I just didn't know. 445 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 2: Like I wasn't until what two years out of high 446 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:06,120 Speaker 2: school that I decided to try r and b. 447 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: Let me try it. Church ain't paying me enough, and 448 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: I gotta eat the rail, gotta eat. They were starting 449 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: you out what one hundred and fifty a Sunday. 450 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 5: They paid me in chicken. But I understand what you're saying, though, Wait, 451 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 5: hold on, hold on, you're a love offering. Yeah, but 452 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 5: the love was a chicken. 453 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: Yes, it was dahn, that's real. I started out of 454 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: twenty five dollars a Sunday. I fought years to end 455 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: up at that one fifty. 456 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: M What you're gonna do with these days? Yeah? 457 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: They told me the Lord was gonna provide. I said, well, 458 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: when is that nigga coming through so I can talk 459 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 2: to him. 460 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 5: I wouldn't even been able to sell you niggas no weed, 461 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 5: trying to by the weed with a piece of chicken. Now, 462 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 5: you know, I used to trade chicken for a parking space. 463 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Here go baring. You were getting a lot of chickens. 464 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 5: I was getting the chicken and now I'm getting the 465 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 5: y Yeah. 466 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: All right, so get so. So we did traded chicken 467 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 2: for parking spaces. We have been collecting l's on our 468 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 2: long board, and and and and building to our ws. 469 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: Yes we have. 470 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 2: And you know, putting out our music, trying to figure 471 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: out how to be a professional in this thing. What 472 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: is what is your what is your breaking point? What 473 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 2: is what is what is that pivotal moment that says 474 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: I'm in the music business now? 475 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 8: Hmm? 476 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: I think twenty eighteen was when I shifted from SoundCloud 477 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 5: to the streaming platforms like the main ones, and that 478 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 5: was my R and B album. You know, it was 479 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: me trying to say I'm an artist. I know I'm entertaining, 480 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 5: I know I am talented, but these are records and 481 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 5: people are going to play these records in the future, 482 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 5: and it's going to be the thing, And I feel 483 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 5: like the tour I went on in twenty eighteen solidified 484 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 5: that I have to be looked at as an artist 485 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 5: because I'm like, I'm selling out these venues. People are 486 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 5: tattooing the lyrics on them like it's all the you're 487 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 5: an artist ISM's happening and purely independent. 488 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah at this point, yes. 489 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 5: It's just you know, me and the people you meet 490 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 5: along the way. Okay, so yeah, the record deal came 491 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 5: maybe before you get before you get to the record deal, 492 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 5: how did you know where to go? Meaning it's tour 493 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 5: right and saying you know you're selling out these venues. 494 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 5: Were you using the analytics or were you just did 495 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 5: you even know about the analytics yet? Of Okay, I 496 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 5: have a thousand fans and such and such, so I 497 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 5: can probably do a spot that fits two fifty. 498 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: Did you go through that process? 499 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 7: Because we want to give these artists who are getting 500 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 7: into the game and understanding of how not to lose 501 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 7: your ass. 502 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 503 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,399 Speaker 5: It's just like, oh, yeah, I'm gonna go do a 504 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 5: show in New York. Well, nigga, they don't know you 505 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 5: in New York. What are you talking about? Go figure 506 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 5: out or did you just take the chance. 507 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: That's what I want to know. 508 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's a great question. I always looked 509 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 5: at what the people were saying. Like SoundCloud, the way 510 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 5: it was structured was as that song is played, they 511 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 5: can comment if they like it, where they're from, whatever, 512 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 5: And so I would take that gather some data. I 513 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 5: was always trying to outsmart the system, right, and I 514 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,360 Speaker 5: always would go where the love is. So to continue 515 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 5: with answering that, I would say I would do a 516 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,639 Speaker 5: show and then figure out who was there, and from 517 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 5: that it would create the next show. And I think 518 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 5: I would just let that be deciding where I should go. 519 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 5: So my show on a rooftop in New York turned 520 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 5: into it a festival in DC because I was making 521 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 5: a beat and this dude was like, Yo, you should 522 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 5: do this thing called your Electro in DC. Then that 523 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 5: festival got me attention to say, yo, come do this 524 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 5: selection show in LA And I'm like, oh yeah, that 525 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 5: was mad Love in LA from the SoundCloud comments cool, 526 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 5: all right, it should be fine go to La. LA 527 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: is like Okay, there's a dude from the UK that 528 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 5: wants you to do this thing. I say, all right, 529 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 5: I'll go over there losing money. By the way, on 530 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 5: all of this, the plane ticket sucked up all that cash. 531 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 5: But I knew that people was the power. I've been 532 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 5: knew that because I was just like the only reason 533 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 5: that I was succeeding was because women championed me. They said, no, no, no, 534 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 5: he this a collected guy. 535 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: We choose him. 536 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 5: And so I always paid attention to what the people 537 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 5: liked and where they were at, and I just go there. 538 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 5: So I used to it was literally a non official tour. 539 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 5: It was like this show did this, and then I 540 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 5: was like, I've been on twelf for two years. Wow, 541 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 5: that was that was my story. So just paying attention 542 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 5: to people, I think it's good advice. I read the comments. 543 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 5: I organized the comments in a spreadsheet. I used to 544 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 5: like make my old older sistant, my best friend just 545 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 5: like categorize what type of songs they were responding to. 546 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 5: We looked at everything like game footage. Like I was 547 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 5: very calculated in the beginning and I'm still today. So 548 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 5: I think I answered that. 549 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: I love that absolutely. 550 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: But then at the other piece though, with the information 551 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 2: in terms of how you go from SoundCloud to the DSPs. 552 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta like, you gotta talk to people. You 553 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 5: have to almost harass people for information while you're not 554 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 5: in the in crowd yet, and you have to read 555 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 5: anything available and try to figure out the through line 556 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,719 Speaker 5: that connects it all. Because it was definitely difficult at 557 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 5: first figuring out what does this mean, what it splits, 558 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 5: what's the publishing? How do you figure out how to 559 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 5: get this there? But I felt like trying to be 560 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 5: open to trying to understand it, being vocal about that, 561 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 5: whether it's social media, in your conversations, it was leading 562 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 5: to more answers, like I met the dude that created 563 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 5: the stem platform that allowed artists to upload things and 564 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 5: they put it on the DSPs. I met them early 565 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 5: on a beach in LA while I was doing my 566 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 5: little street musician thing. So I just feel like, again, 567 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 5: a lot of this. 568 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: Is just he said, who I love that too though 569 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: the street streets. 570 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, we'll get them going. That's a 571 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 5: lot of who I am. But I've always been It's 572 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 5: all it goes back to relationships or currency, you know 573 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I was just like, I haven't gotten 574 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 5: to where I want to get to it because I 575 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 5: haven't met the right person, and so I would always 576 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: just go outside or do something clever on social media 577 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 5: until I would get closer to the understanding that I 578 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 5: lacked at the time. So yeah, when it comes to 579 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 5: how did I get my stuff on DSPs, I used 580 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 5: to email everybody long, annoying paragraphs of questions. I used 581 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 5: to follow the person that this person and followed and like, 582 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 5: I used to try to do all the things, and 583 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 5: it led to a little bit more understanding, and oh 584 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 5: I shouldn't do that, and I should do that, and 585 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 5: I understand this one, and I would just compound it. 586 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, so wow, that now I love the due diligence though. 587 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: That's the hunger you gotta have. I was very hungry, Yeah, 588 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: because you have to be in. 589 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: I mean, first, the people business is what we subscribe to. 590 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,840 Speaker 2: We're in the people business. Everything else is a byproduct 591 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: of that. You got to get the people there, or 592 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: get to the people in some way, shape or form. 593 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: That's where you build. But to ask to to not 594 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: be afraid to ask those questions, to not be afraid 595 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 2: to take those chances, is a different kind of hunger, 596 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 2: because then you have to start chipping away at the 597 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: pride and ego that goes along with your feeling like 598 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 2: you're good at your but understanding you're not there yet. 599 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 5: That's what Virginia did though. Yeah, like in terms of 600 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 5: joking ability, they're great in the DMV, Like they'll tell 601 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 5: you exactly how much they don't like what you're wearing 602 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 5: or what you're sounding, like the comments will cook you. Yeah, 603 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 5: it's all And I needed that because a lot of people, 604 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: this is what's in the way. They think they're so 605 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 5: amazing and untouchable. They don't need to go overseas because 606 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 5: America is only all that matters all that. If you 607 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 5: defeat that, I really feel like that's when you begin 608 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 5: to grow. And so once I got all of my 609 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 5: ego just just destroyed, then I got to build it 610 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 5: back up in a better way. I was like, Okay, 611 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 5: I know that I've spent ten thousand hours on being 612 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 5: in front of people making beats from scratch, So I'm 613 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 5: not scared about that. I'm not scared to talk to people. 614 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 5: I'm not scared of the nose. I don't care if 615 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 5: somebody thinks I'm annoying or lame. It's just like, you 616 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 5: know what I mean, I've already went through that so 617 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 5: I think that's why that that was that, you know, 618 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 5: that hyperbolic period of just building up my you know, 619 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 5: industry strength. 620 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: Hyperbolic. You went to school a little bit, he went 621 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: to one of the classes. 622 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 2: Hyperbolic is not like you know, you just walking and 623 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: chilling on the corner. This niggas just like, yeah, I 624 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: mean what you're doing with your hyperbolic today, Like, that's not. 625 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,120 Speaker 5: Done a lot of museum days. 626 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: I've done a lot of music. 627 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 5: Subsidiary my repertoire, my repertoire, Yeah yeah, trust me, that's 628 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 5: where you get the words from the museums. First big 629 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 5: record to me love Be like m hmm, it's from SoundCloud. 630 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 5: And that was what made me drop out of school 631 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 5: because it got one hundred thousand plays in a day. 632 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm out, this bitch, I'm out. 633 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 5: I know I was here. I said, not no more communications, 634 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 5: one on one, a hundred thousand. I was coming here 635 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 5: for this. I dot it about you an't even give 636 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 5: me a scholarship peace, he said. 637 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: Pe whoa like ten? Pe my repertoire? Are you kidding? 638 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: One hundred thousand and one day? 639 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 5: That's all that to me? I was like, I'm famous. 640 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 5: That's what I told my and then when Girls That 641 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 5: Dance came out, I said, oh, it's over, I'm it, 642 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 5: give me the plaque. But I knew at that time 643 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 5: that I'm missing something to get this plaqu because if 644 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 5: I didn't here yet, we'll be all right. Between Lovely 645 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 5: Lick and Girls of Dance, like those are the ones 646 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 5: where I was like, Okay, this is what famous. And 647 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 5: then when I started to see it can just keep 648 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 5: getting redefined. And I've been trying to do this for 649 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 5: like months now. I'm trying to like find and a 650 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 5: way to compare the music industry to sports. 651 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: I'm like, is it basketball? Is it football? 652 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 5: Just so I can gauge the wins a little bit 653 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: better because it's so nuanced, and do we win this? 654 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 5: Is this the plaque that says we got the ring? 655 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 5: Are these your rings? Or is this like a trophy? 656 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 5: Is this the MVP Award? And so I tried to 657 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 5: do that, and I felt like if I had a 658 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 5: metric that I wanted to hit and I hit it, 659 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 5: that's the ring. And so love Be Like was the 660 00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 5: first one, and I was like one hundred k like 661 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 5: that's it, and then it just kept increasing and increasing. Yeah, 662 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 5: I mean, it's it's multiple championships, absolutely, But the difference 663 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 5: is in music, you're truly competing with yourself. 664 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,320 Speaker 1: M m yeah, truly. 665 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 5: Like we can say, oh, well, the Grammy and you know, 666 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 5: I won this award at the end of the year, 667 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 5: and I guess that would probably be perceived to be 668 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 5: what our super Bowl is and our you know, NBA championship. 669 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 5: But the truth of the matter is that you're you're 670 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 5: really competing with yourself of where you feel that you 671 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 5: know that success lies, like you said, for you to 672 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 5: see that one hundred thousand, that's your super Bowl, that was. 673 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: Life changing for you. 674 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 7: And I think with music, we put too much on 675 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 7: you know, everybody else's things, you know, instead of just 676 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 7: being like, this is what satisfies me, this is what 677 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 7: I believe is the greatest shit in the world, you. 678 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: Know what I mean? 679 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,759 Speaker 7: Like that you even having that story and explaining that, like, yeah, 680 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 7: when you saw that one hundred thousand, because we can 681 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 7: have so many of those moments in the music business 682 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 7: that in you know, like in the NBA, you just 683 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 7: met you can make it to the league, and then 684 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 7: you try to get your contract, and then you try 685 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 7: to and then you but in music, every day you 686 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 7: can be satisfied by that song you just wrote or 687 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 7: this room being like maybe that's the one. There's satisfaction 688 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 7: in that that we have in music that we I 689 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,200 Speaker 7: don't I don't think I personally that. 690 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: I don't think that. 691 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 7: You know, other forms have that, that that instant gratification. 692 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 5: You know, I know how I feel. The dunk dunk, 693 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 5: the basketball cool, you. 694 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 7: Know what I'm saying talk about, But you know, seeing 695 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 7: a record go the way that they go and then 696 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 7: seeing people react to it the same, you know what 697 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 7: I mean, or even crazier, like I've never always say this, 698 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 7: I've never seen a woman throw their panties at somebody 699 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 7: for dunk and a basketball. She might have thrown her 700 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 7: panties about the contract he signed talk about it, But 701 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 7: I've seen panties get. 702 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,800 Speaker 5: Thrown off of a Oh yeah, we haven't panty talk. 703 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: We always have. This is the R and B Money Podcast. 704 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 4: Come on, rustles a little, Come on. 705 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 5: We haven't talk. 706 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,359 Speaker 1: That because him. 707 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 5: The other thing about music too, though, is that we 708 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 5: can get it all broke. Okay, we can get it 709 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 5: all broke. I talk about it, you know what I mean. 710 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 5: We can dive into that, you know what I mean 711 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,439 Speaker 5: when it's like, oh damn, you date him, that's cool. 712 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 7: I probably can't afford to go to the game he 713 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,560 Speaker 7: playing there. But you like this song rot, don't you? 714 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: Absolutely? 715 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,399 Speaker 5: Because at the end of the day, talk about it. 716 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,240 Speaker 5: It all comes down to the yams. 717 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: Y'all good at what y'all do. This is a good show, 718 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: R and B. 719 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: I don't care how you cut it, you know, I mean, okay, 720 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: how you slice it? Still a yam still yam man. Yeah, yeah, 721 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: you're freshly braided. I know her too. I know why, 722 00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,400 Speaker 2: just in case that yam is. 723 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: Look, it's the playoffs right now, he said, you freshly break. Yeah, 724 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: we know why. It's always the playoffs for rest, as. 725 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 2: In being in competition with yourself. It's just it's just 726 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: the progressions that make it all make sense. It's getting 727 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 2: a hundred more people in the building, it's getting a 728 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 2: hundred more spans that week. It's you know, I don't 729 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 2: I mean, I like the I love the award shows. 730 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 2: I love it. I get I get what it is. 731 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 2: But I've seen so many historians and even current artists 732 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 2: have so much success without it, great success. So it 733 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 2: goes back to what you're saying, like, yeah, it's it's 734 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 2: it's about you. It's about your progressions and your upgrades 735 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 2: and continuing to to be better and build that are 736 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: and that word continuing to spread of who you are 737 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,320 Speaker 2: and what you're doing them then then venues getting bigger 738 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 2: and bigger, you know. 739 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 5: Like I don't know you through the numbers. I know 740 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 5: you through the woman. Have you heard it now? 741 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: Yes? I have m Yeah, I like that record. 742 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 5: This man is dropping place today. 743 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 7: Like but seriously though, and that that is something that 744 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 7: that you've established within your artistry and your career, that's special. 745 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 7: You said it earlier, you were like, you know, I 746 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,839 Speaker 7: knew women were supporting me, you know what I mean? 747 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 7: And that that that you you you had your target audience. 748 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 7: You stuck to it, and they they become your introduction, 749 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 7: you know what I mean. It was It wasn't like 750 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 7: you know, the radio introduced me to you or some playlist. 751 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 1: Or that it literally the woman. It was just he's dope. 752 00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: He's dope. If you heard him, that's simple. And then 753 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: it became if you didn't hear him, think you don't 754 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 1: know about that? 755 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,880 Speaker 7: No painings for you, O, man, Like you've done, he bro, Listen, 756 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 7: you gott. 757 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:09,879 Speaker 1: Some fly ship, bro. 758 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 5: I appreciate that some fly ship really shout out women, 759 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 5: man shout out to talk. Yeah. 760 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 8: Yeah. 761 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 5: What's been your most successful record? 762 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:19,919 Speaker 1: Successful? 763 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 5: Definitely, okay, just because of the impact into places that 764 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 5: I wouldn't otherwise find myself, certain countries that I wouldn't 765 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 5: have been to, certain people wouldn't have discovered me. Like 766 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 5: it just opened up the most doors, and it's such 767 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 5: a great introduction when someone's trying to understand that I'm 768 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 5: a little left of center with my approach to R 769 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 5: and B. It's like, watch a video. You see exactly 770 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 5: what he be doing. He makes up songs, he's inspired 771 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 5: by women because you see her walking by the window. 772 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 5: The whole video plays a bunch of instruments and it's quick. 773 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,600 Speaker 5: I was like, cool, if that's all you know me from, 774 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,960 Speaker 5: fine by me. It's a good intro. What's the inspiration 775 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 5: of that record? The flight to Paris for the first 776 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 5: time because I hadn't been and when was that? When 777 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,959 Speaker 5: was it twenty seventeen maybe? And the woman walking by 778 00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 5: the window because I didn't think there were black people 779 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,080 Speaker 5: in Paris at the time, and I was surprised. I 780 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 5: was like, oh, and so I got to show off 781 00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 5: because I know you see me, see you see you. 782 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 5: So I'm about to play all these instruments and just 783 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 5: look at the window the whole time, glasses on. I'm 784 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,880 Speaker 5: just like it's for that. Yeah, And everybody behind me 785 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 5: was just like just gasping, like what is what's happened? 786 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:41,760 Speaker 5: Because I met old dude FKJ five minutes prior didn't 787 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 5: speak English. 788 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: Well, he said five minutes. Yeah. 789 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,800 Speaker 5: So as we're getting introduced to each other, he's warming 790 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,080 Speaker 5: his guitar up and that's the riff of the song. 791 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 5: And so I'm like, all right, we ain't got to talk. Then, 792 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 5: let's just come on. I got drums, start punching the 793 00:42:55,560 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 5: drum machine, and so yeah, it was just another in 794 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 5: the moment. So y'all got all my favorite things here, women, tea, instruments. 795 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,719 Speaker 1: Oh, let's give them. Let's just give him some backstory. 796 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: You know. He walks onto the pod. Uh, he's walking 797 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: in here, and we're like, man, you got we got water, 798 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,479 Speaker 1: we got uh, we got libations. You know what I'm saying. 799 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,800 Speaker 2: We did we to tequila on that little whiskey aged whiskey. 800 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We like whiskey of age. 801 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 2: And he says, yeah, yeah, I feel all that, But 802 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 2: where's the tea? I said what he said, it's supposed 803 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: to be R and B money. 804 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: You ain't got no tea. You know what I do 805 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:36,720 Speaker 1: have tea, motherfucker. 806 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 2: I got tea and I got a love cut trump 807 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,760 Speaker 2: me think I ain't ready. I just bought throw coats 808 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 2: with limited incognesia and I got mint tea. I got 809 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 2: Camra meals that saying, I got ginger tea for digestions. 810 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,719 Speaker 1: Just in case you know what I'm saying, you bounce an. 811 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: I got tea, all right, So. 812 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,680 Speaker 2: This man loves tea every time you see him. Just 813 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,200 Speaker 2: make sure maybe you'll come up with a brand of tease. 814 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 1: Are we branding something right now? If they cutting the check? No, no, 815 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 1: no the check. If they start in the LLC, you 816 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: can find me. But you got beverages, don't you? You gets 817 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,040 Speaker 1: you got some? You guess your don't think going right? 818 00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: I got I. 819 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,640 Speaker 5: Don't know if I got nothing. What I got? 820 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 3: What I got? 821 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, we got stuff closing opening, Okay, we can't talk 822 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,440 Speaker 5: about it yet. Actually you're talking about the jont in 823 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 5: the overseas situation. Listen, man, I'm big for health, and 824 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 5: as a man that acquired a little bit more access, 825 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 5: I've noticed that white people got all the healthy things 826 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 5: just right next to themselves, and I was like, I 827 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 5: want black people to have this knowledge, these resources, all this, 828 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 5: And I think it comes down to affecting culture because 829 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I love all the plant based vegan talk, 830 00:44:54,640 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 5: because our interpretation, unfortunately, is just replacing comfort food with 831 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 5: just impossible meet. And I don't think that's the that's 832 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 5: the word. Do anybody know what's in that? It's it's 833 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,720 Speaker 5: it ain't acgnesias. 834 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: Real quick, you know it's not. You cannot put it in. 835 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 5: The hold on, man, do you find a suspicious? 836 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 4: Don't you find a suspicious that we don't get all 837 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 4: the help? 838 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 5: Why it costs so much? Why fast foods so affordable 839 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 5: and near us? 840 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, what you find a suspicious? I find it suspicious? 841 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: My brother? Can I call you brother Tank? You can 842 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,759 Speaker 1: call me brother Tank. 843 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,320 Speaker 5: I find it suspicious. Then we can't even have nothing. 844 00:45:52,239 --> 00:46:00,160 Speaker 2: Thumbs up to my rap career. Let's start there. 845 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 5: Mm hmmm, h. 846 00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:05,920 Speaker 2: M h. 847 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 5: M hmmmm. 848 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 3: Top five. 849 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: Your top five. 850 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: Top five, Your top five R and B easigga, all 851 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 2: the these songs. 852 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, great, bring. 853 00:46:50,200 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 3: Let's tell a discus, tell these bussines, tackle tack. Yes, your. 854 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:26,919 Speaker 8: Top five, it's all types of off. 855 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: Let's say I shut it tear your top five all singers, 856 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: all right. 857 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 858 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 5: The first person that came to mind was DiAngelo. Yeah, 859 00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,120 Speaker 5: I'll start there, Okay, definitely, that's where I will start. 860 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 5: The second person popped my mind was j Moss. I 861 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 5: act like that out of control definitely. 862 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 8: Mm hmm. 863 00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 5: Third, I'm gonna go with Jamie Fox. Yeah, definitely. 864 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the cat, the Cat, the cat, musician, tip musicians. 865 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 5: Impact, Mary J. Blige, Yeah, how to do it? And 866 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:23,319 Speaker 5: then number five spot gotta go Stevie. Yeah, and see 867 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 5: defeated un defeated in the world. It's just multifaceted. Choose 868 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 5: multi everything and he can see so but we'll get 869 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 5: to that anyway. Your top five, top five R and 870 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 5: B songs. Okay, top five R and B songs. I 871 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 5: gotta access some cool to get this. They got you 872 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 5: both for this one. 873 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 2: Excuse me, all right. Image, So it's like it's like 874 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 2: you ski, but you you have the Ten Commandments written. 875 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 5: On your Ski Betray My Heart DeAngelo. I think that's 876 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 5: a good one. 877 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 1: Mm. I think it's suspicious. We don't talk about that 878 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: song enough. That's just me. I would say, hmmmm. 879 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:26,400 Speaker 8: Was it? 880 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: Was it? What you want to be? Y'all? Why a w? 881 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 1: Have you heard this record? 882 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 5: No? 883 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,840 Speaker 1: Where's my cellular device? Can you pass it? I was 884 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: listening to it on the morning all the while? But yes, 885 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: it is very beautiful. It is Where would you be? 886 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 1: Why a w? Oh? I love that you don't know 887 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: this song. You should listen to it. 888 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 5: It's very It could be a cover and I could 889 00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 5: just be a youngster. We'll see later. Cool butterflies MJ 890 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 5: why not? Yes, have to Marshall fancy the Dream? 891 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:02,839 Speaker 3: Hmm. 892 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 1: That's a good love song. 893 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 8: That one. What a vibe? 894 00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, would love to hear liveh missed mm hmm. 895 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 5: And J Moss Florida, Yeah, let's go to Florida talks 896 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 5: about the Temptations. 897 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: I really liked that one. It was an R and 898 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: B thing. It was a lot of controversy about him 899 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,480 Speaker 1: singing that he should be able to sing whatever he 900 00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,280 Speaker 1: wants to. It's an instrument. It's an instrument, many keys, 901 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 1: and he's amazing, wanted. 902 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 5: To be him growing up. I said, how many of 903 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 5: you is that in that choir? He just said, yes, 904 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:44,720 Speaker 5: I understand. 905 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 2: All right, we gotta we're gonna build. We're gonna build 906 00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 2: you a perfect R and B artist. We call it 907 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 2: the R and B voltron. And you have to pick 908 00:50:55,960 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 2: artists where you're going to extract huh uh uh okay, 909 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 2: the necessities from the materials. We're gonna we're gonna see 910 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 2: who you're gonna get the vocal from, who you're going 911 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: to get the styling from, who you're going to get 912 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 2: the performance style from, and who you're going to get. 913 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: The heart of the artists from the passion so good? Yeah, 914 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,839 Speaker 1: So let's start with the vocal. If you're building your 915 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: perfect R and B artists, who are you going to 916 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,640 Speaker 1: get the vocal from that one artist? Who the lead singer? 917 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,520 Speaker 2: Man, it ain't gonna be oltists who who they come 918 00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 2: to see? I gotta be honest, give me the vocals from. 919 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,840 Speaker 1: Cals, lot of that of that. 920 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh Now, if you don't want to find out 921 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 3: the hardway, hardway, now listen to the song is the record? 922 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:04,239 Speaker 1: Please? Well know all mom Mamma talked me a long 923 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 1: time ago, throw their lamb in there. 924 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, wow, wow, Okay, I can tell a lie. 925 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,279 Speaker 2: Robert Lee vocal, got it, got it? Who are you 926 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 2: getting the performance style. 927 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: From that performance? 928 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,560 Speaker 5: Give me Maxwell hm hmm yeah, with the new Maxwell, 929 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 5: with the Meganes, with the Megan Thees Maxwell. Yeah, yeah, 930 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 5: I've seen. Yeah, I said, this has long jevity. 931 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want the first tour knees got out 932 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:55,799 Speaker 1: of here, get that drop down and get your I'm 933 00:52:55,880 --> 00:53:01,920 Speaker 1: not I'm not not me lost me there, I respect 934 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: it thought. Okay, who you getting the styling from the 935 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: drip of the artists? The styling from get me on? 936 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:12,759 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, no, no. 937 00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 3: Do that. 938 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 5: No, the styling from the R and B because we're 939 00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 5: we're an odd bunch with the outfits. Whatever artists you 940 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 5: want to throw in there, though you're making your perfect 941 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 5: R and B artist for you, it's yours. 942 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: Who's got the drip? Mmm r n B. No, No, 943 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,480 Speaker 1: that wasn't really doing it for me. 944 00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 5: Back in the news day, Okay, okay, give me those 945 00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,360 Speaker 5: threads from Jay Holiday, the flannel with the hoodie in 946 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,719 Speaker 5: the back, the. 947 00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,000 Speaker 1: Hoodie that come out of the flannel. 948 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, uh suffocate, suffocate, I do exactly what? 949 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,960 Speaker 1: Come on? Now? You sure you know what I'm saying? 950 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 1: Your whole artist is gonna happen, Okay. 951 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,160 Speaker 5: Because that's when I'll know that the art is speaking, 952 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:09,400 Speaker 5: because you're not here for the clothes. 953 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: I need that. Ah Okay, it's kind of a dig 954 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: I'm roland. 955 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 5: Oh but no, no, no, understand that for that combination, 956 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 5: it would be viewed in this day and time as lumberjackish. 957 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 5: But that doesn't mean it's not a style that people want. 958 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 5: Jack one hundred thw thousand. 959 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:45,760 Speaker 1: You know we can do this. You know it's crazy. 960 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking you're gonna say dred the whole time. I'm like, 961 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:51,799 Speaker 1: you're gonna say dray. Yeah. 962 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:59,880 Speaker 2: That definitely came out of left Yep, none of wh 963 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 2: The passion of you threw this nigga off. He said, 964 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,919 Speaker 2: for the drip, I love, I just didn't know he dripped, Okay, 965 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 2: Hey said three thousand for the drip. 966 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay. Passion of the artist, the heart of the artist, 967 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: the heart gotta do Michael God, who wanted more than that? 968 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,520 Speaker 1: What is a nigga going through that? In between? 969 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 5: And it's understanding and held on to that thing in 970 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,759 Speaker 5: the air that holds you and said, what. 971 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:34,840 Speaker 1: About the elephants? 972 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 8: What about the saying? 973 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, that's heard. You care about 974 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,880 Speaker 5: the things that we can't even go see only you've 975 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 5: seen them elephants. We ain't got that type of money. 976 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 5: He was trying to put us up on Brazil, looking 977 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 5: to put us up. I've seen it's sad. 978 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:54,520 Speaker 8: Where you going? 979 00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:01,719 Speaker 1: What about Derek? What about the mountain to love? It's 980 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: burning love? What about lava? 981 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:09,320 Speaker 5: What? 982 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:17,520 Speaker 1: What about ants? What about lying and tigers in bears? 983 00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 4: Don't have a chance. 984 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: This is why you can't write songs with him, because 985 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,840 Speaker 1: saying what about lava? He can make anything sound like 986 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: it's supposed to be cool. 987 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 2: Michael doesn't care about lava. I can care about But 988 00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 2: if you look at java, it's so much of it. 989 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 2: It swhere, does it go? Does any does it can 990 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,160 Speaker 2: even help the lava? Can someone help us with the LoVa? 991 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,720 Speaker 2: And then and then it and then it dries and dies? 992 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,000 Speaker 2: Help us keep the lava, lava, keep the lava. And 993 00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 2: those of you who are making lava laps, how dare you? 994 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 2: How dare you extract lava from its place, from its ois? 995 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,400 Speaker 2: From its home, take it from It's must be stopped. 996 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to be lover belongs with LoVa. None 997 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:15,239 Speaker 1: in your lamps. M okay, Oh my god, that is 998 00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 1: on his teeth. 999 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 8: This guy, man, where are you going? 1000 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: Where are you going? Is this a little bill theme? 1001 00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: Is that about the record? You lost it? I think 1002 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:44,120 Speaker 1: I lost it? He throwing all I got it, I 1003 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 1: got I got I got I got it, I got it, 1004 00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: I got it, I got it. I ain't saying no names. 1005 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,200 Speaker 2: I ain't saying no names. Ain't saying no names. Saying 1006 00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 2: no name when you were who he was weird? Don't 1007 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:05,240 Speaker 2: say ship. I ain't saying no. 1008 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 5: It's a good show a lot. That's a very important segment. Okay, 1009 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 5: very important to the rest of those seams, tears. There's 1010 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 5: a question to be asked this segment of the show. 1011 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: I'm listening. 1012 00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:33,440 Speaker 5: God, I ain't saying no names. It's about your travels 1013 00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 5: and this ship music industry. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The 1014 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 5: story can be funny. Are fucked up? Are funny? And 1015 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 5: fucked up? Could be about your audit when you audited 1016 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:52,560 Speaker 5: label ship. The only rulee to this game and segment. 1017 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 5: You just can't say no names. 1018 00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 1: But this right here. I ain't saying no name. Okay, okay, man, 1019 00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,080 Speaker 1: what all right? Take time? Can you just put me 1020 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: in a minor for a seconds? I think musician nigga? Okay, 1021 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:22,160 Speaker 1: we could do that decent story, Max. You know I 1022 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:23,840 Speaker 1: got masked. I just got to figure out to clean 1023 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 1: this up. No, no, we want a dirty story. Dirty. 1024 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,200 Speaker 1: We want to tell them dirt, dirt. 1025 00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:35,760 Speaker 5: All right, we'll do it. We'll keep it light for 1026 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 5: the first ones. I think of the second one all right, boom. 1027 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 5: It's my first time in l A searching for a 1028 00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,840 Speaker 5: deal using my contacts that I have, and then I 1029 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,840 Speaker 5: land a meeting with a really well known executive and 1030 00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,000 Speaker 5: his partner and they're like, yo, meet us at the 1031 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:56,360 Speaker 5: top of Soho House. 1032 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,760 Speaker 1: You know, can I say names of place? You know? 1033 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm niggas be a man. 1034 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody there see the view all that my first 1035 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 5: time being there. I used to be at the rallies. 1036 01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 5: That's where I would do. 1037 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 8: That's what I would do. 1038 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 5: Me a little different, a guy like me. Yeah, I'm 1039 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,760 Speaker 5: sure they don't have the trouble pizza, you understand, I 1040 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 5: get it. Yeah, I just traded my longboard, so it's 1041 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 5: a different stage. So I show up to this meeting 1042 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 5: on time early actually, and at first they were asking 1043 01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:34,160 Speaker 5: if I worked there, and I said, these are my 1044 01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:35,960 Speaker 5: these are my famous clothes. 1045 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,840 Speaker 1: No, I don't work here. 1046 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 5: But they said, sir, you know use your lakers, now 1047 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 5: you understand. And I said, no, no, no, I don't 1048 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 5: work here. I'm not here to park the cars. I'm 1049 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:46,320 Speaker 5: here to get a deal. 1050 01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: So boom. 1051 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:51,480 Speaker 5: After a lot of you know, ego taming, I make 1052 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 5: my way up to the top of the top of 1053 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:57,240 Speaker 5: so's a beautiful view, nice layer of small and pollution 1054 01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:01,160 Speaker 5: just to coat the clouds of l a and a 1055 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:03,760 Speaker 5: little hero and needle right there in the distance, just 1056 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 5: being shared by a couple. 1057 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 1: Love. Wow. 1058 01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 5: And So now I'm here with my manager and we're 1059 01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 5: just waiting thirty minutes our hour thirty. I've already consumed 1060 01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:23,480 Speaker 5: the very expensive appetizers. I said, who's. 1061 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:23,680 Speaker 1: Paying for this? 1062 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:28,480 Speaker 5: Doesn't matter. Then two men, powerful men walk in. I said, oh, 1063 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 5: there's the money walking in my deals here. Let me 1064 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 5: just move my work clothes them see my chain from 1065 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 5: Patrick Henry Mall And so I, oh, yes, the kiosk 1066 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:40,480 Speaker 5: I love that. 1067 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 8: I love. 1068 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:44,280 Speaker 1: Yes, it's gotta fake it till you you understand. 1069 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 5: Well, so I'm I'm trying to talk to I'm like, yo, 1070 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:52,480 Speaker 5: so I'm gonna say go and I do this, and 1071 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 5: I play out his instruments no dah, and I'm just 1072 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,960 Speaker 5: like I'm looking out at the sky like this is 1073 01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,320 Speaker 5: my chance. I'm just telling him who I am and 1074 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 5: why I am the one he should sign. And then 1075 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 5: I looked down and one of them is sleeping, sleep, resting, 1076 01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:11,000 Speaker 5: and the other one is. 1077 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,160 Speaker 1: Just like, yeah, man, you know it's. 1078 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got back from London. 1079 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:17,840 Speaker 1: You know how that is. I said, no, I don't 1080 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 1: know how that is. I am broke. What is it? London? 1081 01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 1: But I'm not her American boy, well not her American. 1082 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 5: So he was sleeping and I was just like, well, 1083 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 5: wake up, mister West, and uh he woke up and. 1084 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: He said yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Can we do 1085 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: this over email? 1086 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:47,640 Speaker 5: And I said yes we can, and then he left 1087 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 5: to go to the bathroom. And I had to pay 1088 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 5: for this so on my father's credit card, this meal 1089 01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:54,240 Speaker 5: that we all enjoyed. 1090 01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,560 Speaker 1: He ordered the what is the meal out here? 1091 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 5: The salmon with the here with the potatoes, yes, and 1092 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 5: then those housemaid chips I believe, Yeah, two glasses of wine. 1093 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,520 Speaker 5: I think it was nineteen crimes at the time. Shout 1094 01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 5: out snoop, good partnership. 1095 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:17,000 Speaker 1: Didn't know. 1096 01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,640 Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, that was quite the bill. That took 1097 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 5: a while to pay off. And then when I would 1098 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,560 Speaker 5: see him in the future, he would just say he's 1099 01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 5: proud of me, and I'd be like, guacamole, but I 1100 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 5: ain't saying no names. 1101 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: I ain't saying no names. That's great, appreciate it, man, 1102 01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,280 Speaker 1: that was really good. Had to clean it up. I 1103 01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:49,520 Speaker 1: was like, he needed to take you to dinner, man, 1104 01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:50,680 Speaker 1: he needed to take. 1105 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 5: You. 1106 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,800 Speaker 1: Got brother, got to take you to dinner, just one dinner. 1107 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:57,640 Speaker 5: It could be at rallies. 1108 01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: I'd still show up. If anybody asked, you can we 1109 01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,840 Speaker 1: do this over email? You say no, we cannot. 1110 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:07,200 Speaker 3: Ship. 1111 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's tough. We're gonna do this now, we ain't 1112 01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,480 Speaker 1: gonna do it. It's good. 1113 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 2: That's a great story though. That's amazing, and it's it's real. 1114 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:21,080 Speaker 2: It's man, it's it's how this ship goes. 1115 01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:26,400 Speaker 1: You guys don't have to be the guacamole guy. You 1116 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 1: don't have to be to guacamolea. I have to be 1117 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:32,640 Speaker 1: the guacamolea guy. You might be with me and I 1118 01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,800 Speaker 1: might push the guacamole in your fucking face. 1119 01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 5: Talk to talk, Come on, man, talk to talk. Ship, 1120 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 5: Wake the funk up, right, Come on, guys. We don't 1121 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,400 Speaker 5: have to be those guys. Man, don't have to don't 1122 01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,520 Speaker 5: have to be those guys. Man, you either like it 1123 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,760 Speaker 5: or you don't like it. Tell someone you don't like it. 1124 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,800 Speaker 5: It's it's okay, and move on. We don't have to 1125 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:59,480 Speaker 5: be disrespectful, brother, migo. That story is great, great story 1126 01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,000 Speaker 5: top to bottom. And you you're you're still in the 1127 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 5: beginning stages of writing some really cool ship. Man, writing 1128 01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 5: a really cool story for yourself. It's impressive. 1129 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:09,640 Speaker 3: Man. 1130 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:10,920 Speaker 1: We support you. 1131 01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:11,280 Speaker 3: Man. 1132 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,200 Speaker 1: Suspicious that you haven't been here sooner, but that is suspicious. 1133 01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna take your head. 1134 01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:22,000 Speaker 5: A different product. 1135 01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Ain't no product. Baby, You're gonna see a lot of. 1136 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 8: A lot of in Brazil. 1137 01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,080 Speaker 3: Hello, this is. 1138 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: He speaks Spanish. 1139 01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:43,960 Speaker 2: I know that. 1140 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:46,560 Speaker 1: On the shoulders. 1141 01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 3: Baby. 1142 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 2: Okay, uh you you're killing them. Man, you gonna keep you. 1143 01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 2: It's amazing, amazing things for you. Hopefully you know, we'll 1144 01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,760 Speaker 2: get to be able to do some cool work with you. 1145 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,160 Speaker 2: Man sitting in the room and just I. 1146 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 1: Don't know how let the same background man ship have 1147 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 1: fun that. You know. 1148 01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:13,000 Speaker 2: You don't want that. You don't want that because it's 1149 01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 2: get different. This is illegal in eight countries. 1150 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:16,959 Speaker 1: You can't. 1151 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:21,120 Speaker 2: They don't even let me burn this. Motherfucking sir. It's 1152 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,920 Speaker 2: stan Bull. Can't go right, just trying to let you know. 1153 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:30,080 Speaker 2: But thank you, brother. I really got to say that, man, 1154 01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:35,640 Speaker 2: because you know, it's a it's a shortage of of 1155 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 2: of truly talented people that are standing on it, you 1156 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,240 Speaker 2: know what I mean. The compromise is real. Ultimately, people 1157 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 2: want to make money, they want to live, they want 1158 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 2: to be in in the know in the now, and 1159 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,959 Speaker 2: it's a long road to be talented in today's time. 1160 01:06:54,560 --> 01:06:57,840 Speaker 2: And you are doing it with style and grace, my brother, 1161 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 2: and you've been very successful. 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