WEBVTT - Ritual 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:04.480 Of the law and order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.280 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.320 --> 0:00:08.119 vicious felonies. 0:00:08.160 --> 0:00:11.719 These episodes are based on. These are our stories. Dune Done. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:32.080 Hello, Welcome to That's Messed Up An SVU podcasts. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:36.400 I'm Kara Klank and I'm Lisa and we talk sview 0:00:36.479 --> 0:00:39.320 true crime and sometimes we have guests. Today we don't, 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:43.080 which means more chit chat. And that's exciting, more chit 0:00:43.159 --> 0:00:46.559 chat for you. Listen, when I meet the listeners out 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:48.839 in the streets, they say, we want more chit chat, 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:52.680 and they tell me to burn Casey's flag. 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Yes, baby, new games. 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.360 I met someone from an SVU episode yesterday. 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:03.240 I met someone from an SVU episode on Sunday and 0:02:03.320 --> 0:02:06.640 I did say something and he kind of he put 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.320 his hand up in like what is this a little 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.320 growl and went like that. 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:14.480 But it was Henry Winkler. I met Henry Winkler last night, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:16.240 so that was a thrill. 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:21.760 Oh my god, did you mention his SVU episode? Yes, 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:24.920 we want him on the podcast. 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:29.800 Oh well, I did not do that hours I was 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:31.919 in a group, So okay, I I have a really 0:02:31.960 --> 0:02:34.440 really small part blink you'll miss it in Good Rich 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.640 with Michael Keat and Milakunis. So I went to the 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.240 premiere last night and it was fun. I got disrespected, 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:42.200 like anytime I go to a premiere where I only 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:45.040 have one line. So I'll get into that. I was 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:47.560 asked to move and get almost kicked out and if 0:02:47.560 --> 0:02:50.880 I'm in the right place four times, four times what 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:52.160 So I'll get into that. 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.000 But I'm standing outside with the director. 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.000 Hallie's like best friend from college, and my friend Jared 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.200 Goldstein and Henry Winkler go to the I think they're 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.120 family friends. The director's mom is Nancy Meyers. She was 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.440 there as well. I saw her, but I did not, 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:08.520 So Henry was just saying hi to. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:09.679 Her friend said. 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.360 Hi to and then reached out to introduce himself, and 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.200 so I said Hi, I'm Lisa, and then we just 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:16.919 stood there and I go, I'm a big SVU girl. 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:21.360 Yours is iconic. And then he went and he liked it. 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:23.600 He said that it was nice, but you know, I 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:25.800 went to sleep, so BoJack Horseman last night, and it 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.040 was his episode where he's at a funeral and someone 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.000 starts talking about Lonod to rescue to him. Oh my god, 0:03:31.560 --> 0:03:33.240 because I wanted to say I love your bo Jack, 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:34.960 but then I thought that would be like too obscure 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:40.520 and weird. But an icon it was exciting. Yeah, just 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.640 a loose Henry Winkler. Yeah, that's amazing, that's amazing. I 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:49.480 met Poppy loo Oo. Well, well we want to get her. 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.000 I think she said no, though. 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:53.080 She did well, she said no, but I didn't bring 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:54.720 it up. But we also already did her episode. It 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.560 was Dearly Beloved, where she plays a woman with a 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:58.480 Jewish last name, and I should have brought it up, 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.720 but I couldn't. I could remember what episode she was in, 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.640 like while we were chatting. But we talked for a 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:07.600 while and she's very sweet and has new stuff coming 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.000 out too. She's in some new show for Netflix called 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:13.080 like His and Hers or something, and she says it's dark, 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.120 so I'm excited to see what that is. 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:17.800 I like popular. I mean, I'm a Hacks girl, so yeah, 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:19.800 I love I told her. I was like, yeah, I 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:20.679 love you in Hacks. 0:04:21.839 --> 0:04:25.960 Yeah. So we both saw some peeps out and about 0:04:26.279 --> 0:04:26.680 did you. 0:04:26.640 --> 0:04:30.400 See the Vulture article that is Joel Kim Booster wrote 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.840 about not getting veneers and keeping your original teeth when 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:38.120 you get famous. No, yeah, it's it's pretty good. I 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:39.920 guess it was like teeth week because I'm watch What 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.680 Happens Live. They did Charlie Booth, is this your tooth? 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:44.280 And he had to guess if that was his tooth 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:47.800 or not? And then there is something to chew on. 0:04:47.880 --> 0:04:50.320 It's tooth Day, My favorite teeth, Jim Carrey's the World 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:54.440 It's Greatest teeth actor, the case of Jack Nicholson's baby teeth, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.120 like every like, there's just all this. 0:04:56.640 --> 0:04:57.480 I saw stuff. 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:00.120 And I also saw The Cut did an article like 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.960 a week or so ago about yeah, like veneers and 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:06.400 how some people regret them because I don't know. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.039 Like, yeah, I'm I'm just with it. I think Kirsten 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.760 Dunst has kept her teeth and Joel's keeping them, and 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.800 I guess he gets shit on but he's not doing it. 0:05:16.880 --> 0:05:20.320 And then they talk to people that are like, don't 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.240 fucking do it? Yeah, well you have to get them 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.240 redone and you don't have real teeth anymore. Like I know, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:29.840 they're like little weird spikes. God forbid, I mean my parent. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.359 It's just like if you don't need medical intervention, you 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.640 don't need it. And because it's also like maybe veneers 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:38.240 will be better or some people have good ones. I'm 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.359 sure Taylor has great veneers or whatever she's up to. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:42.840 But like most people, it's like, oh, I guess your 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.359 teeth aren' thought white or they're shaped weird or do 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:47.920 you have chicklets in your mind? You know, it's not 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:50.240 like we can't tell. It's like we know what it is, 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.800 so it's not And then it like makes you talk weird. 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:54.799 I know. 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:57.159 And if you're an actor, hey to tell you, babe, 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:59.719 that's your man. That's ruad and butter how you talk. 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.640 No, they're saying like in period pieces and stuff, not 0:06:02.680 --> 0:06:05.159 even about the teeth, but it's like when your face 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.680 is just pulled up, like what are we doing here? 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.640 Yeah, you can't be in this nineteen twenties show or whatever. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.760 I don't know. I'm just proud of Joel for keeping 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:17.680 his teeth. Wait. Speaking of talking about Joel, though, I 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:20.359 mean I must have seen. Oh not only have I seen, 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:24.080 I have personal information that Ali will keep yours. I've 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:24.640 been hearing. 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.200 I've been hearing some personal information from other people through 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:32.400 him as well, But just for the listeners, if you're 0:06:32.440 --> 0:06:34.599 not into the housewife world, like some of you aren't, 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:39.039 Joel Kimbooster r Pal is hosting like a dating show 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:44.480 with single housewives like Luanne, Shannon Badoor, Gizelle I think Gizelle, 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:48.960 and and he went on live and was ripping Shannon 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:53.159 Bador to shreds say that she's a was a post. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:55.119 Yeah, oh, I thought he went live. 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:57.680 No, it was a it was written, it was it 0:06:57.720 --> 0:07:01.520 was written stories Okay, then were asked to be deleted immediately, 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:04.280 but of course it's the Internet, so screenshots were taken 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:09.159 and yeah, he basically just said Shannon was evil but 0:07:09.200 --> 0:07:11.360 she was apparently being really terrible to the EP of 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.239 the show and humiliated her in front of the whole 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.760 cat like casting crew. My favorite thing is like people 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.000 in the comments of one of the Bravo accounts I followed, 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.320 well because I don't think it's huge, Like I don't 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.240 think it's giant news, Like you have to be a 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.200 psychopath that follows fifteen Bravo meme a counts to have 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.720 found this out, Like, yes, brav you. 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:32.600 Know what I mean, Like, I don't think the normal 0:07:34.240 --> 0:07:36.720 my entire feed the morning, I know, I. 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:38.720 Was sick in bed because I had a cold, and 0:07:38.760 --> 0:07:41.560 I was like, oh my god, that's just like scrolling 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:42.960 all of the shit. 0:07:43.200 --> 0:07:43.560 It's bad. 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.840 It's something that I would do. But in the comments, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.000 we were like, I can't believe it. We need more proof. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.560 We can't just go off this. I'm like, you can't 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:54.960 believe it. I can't believe that Shannon Badour was a 0:07:55.120 --> 0:07:58.480 nightmare to crewe have we not had that's the same show. 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:02.600 And that this comedian would like just make that up 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.000 and write these stories and risk, like potentially risk a job, 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:07.440 which I think he's fine. 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:08.720 Like his job is safe. 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:10.400 But like, well, at the end of the day, people 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:12.280 are talking about this show. No one was talking. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.360 About That's what I said. Yeah, I think the internet 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.840 is split people. Some people are like I can't believe it, 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:18.800 and other people are. 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.080 Like I knew it. Well, it's like the tree Huggers. 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.160 It's just like, Okay, we can watch this show for entertainment. 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:27.960 If you think Shannon or Teresa are great people who 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:31.400 deserve like joy and happiness, you're out of your fucking mind. 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:35.200 These are not good people and we've seen Shannon's awful 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:39.600 behavior for years or people were like, and he brought 0:08:39.679 --> 0:08:42.520 up the do I do love that ro He's like, 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:44.840 I don't even know what's tough to suffer means, but 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:48.120 ha haha. But even with the daughters, they're like, I 0:08:48.160 --> 0:08:52.400 don't know, and I'm like, I don't like Orange County girls. 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:54.920 Yeah that went to Baylor. 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:57.360 You think they know how to behave, Like I just 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:01.400 I just don't get the shock. Like you might like 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:04.000 someone or not, but to be shocked at they're behaving 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:05.680 in a way that we've seen them behave for a 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:08.520 decade on television is like I don't understand what the 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.280 viewers and you can still like her, but like there's 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.679 but they're all monsters. That's the thing that's I think 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.079 working with Housewives, I don't think Vicky is great Toakreue. 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.640 You know, it's like, I don't think. 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.079 I think the only reason this got pick up is 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:23.760 because she's in the middle of this like sort of 0:09:23.880 --> 0:09:27.480 victim storyline that people are like rallying behind her because 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:30.040 her ex is a nightmare. And in his post he 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:34.480 said I feel bad for John Janssen, which was so 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:39.160 crazy because John Jens is clearly a full scumbag, you know. 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:44.800 Anyway, this is so much housewife talk, not enough to day. 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.200 We got premieres of Salt Lake, we got oc we 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:52.160 got New New York like we got Potomac. We're back, baby, 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:57.360 I'm dying. I'm drot watching every night. It's like so exciting. 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:03.920 Oh so this is the premier. So it's at the grove. Okay, 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.120 my friend who I'm coming with, he gets a phone call. 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.440 He's running late. My anxiety does not handle that. So 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:10.120 I go on my own and it's more fun with 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:10.440 a friend. 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:14.080 So I go up there. I'm just standing. I'm talking 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:14.600 to one woman. 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.360 But as I check in, they tell me I'm I'm 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:21.440 sitting in the director's role row. I go, are you sure, 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.880 and they go, yeah, you're in Halle's row. It's here, 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:27.640 and I go okay, so I go. I sit down 0:10:27.720 --> 0:10:30.360 and immediately there's like some space, but these two women 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:30.920 are looking at me. 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.240 They're like, and I go they told. 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.880 Me to sit here, and then I just was feeling uncomfortable. 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.760 So then I went, I'll just go check. Would you 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:41.760 mind saving these though, just in case? And they go 0:10:41.840 --> 0:10:43.800 for sure, So I go and I go, hey, guys, 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.480 it's a little weird. Are you sure I'm in Halle's row? 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.760 Like it seems like family, and like, are you Henry 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.720 Wrightler's on this show? Like are you sure? And they go, yeah, 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:55.520 you're in the director's row. Hallie she asked for it, 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:59.440 and I go, okay, I get I guess. So I 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:01.640 go back and then there's a new little man sitting 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.600 there with these two other women and he turns around. 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:07.680 He goes, hey, so this is like Hallie's roe. I go, no, 0:11:07.760 --> 0:11:08.000 I know. 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:11.040 I went to double check because you're people keep making 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:13.720 sure I belong here or not. So then he felt 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:15.880 weird because I was like, no, I've asked. I don't 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:16.120 want to. 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.720 Sit here either. You've all made it very uncomfortable for me. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:23.400 And he's like, oh, no, it's fine. So he's her 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.000 best friend from college. Then I realized, oh, that's her sister. 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.760 So I'm like, oh, this is like legit, Like I 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.840 shouldn't be here, you know, I shouldn't. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.000 I feel weird. I don't know why they're telling me 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:35.600 to sit here. Jared comes. 0:11:35.640 --> 0:11:37.760 Then Jared leaves for to get pop corner or drink. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.200 A woman from the events coming comes up to me goes, hey, 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.600 we're gonna need you to move, and this is after 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.760 I could see there's come and I go, are you 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.319 kidding me? I go, I didn't want to sit here? 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.320 I go, I went to double check. They told me 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.400 twice I should sit here. She goes, we just need 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.040 you to leave, like move, and I went, okay, well 0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:56.160 I'm in the movie, like I don't because. 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:56.880 I go, where do you want me to sit? 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.400 She goes, you could just go over here and I go, 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:00.600 I don't know, I'm in it like i'd like, and 0:12:00.640 --> 0:12:02.680 she goes, okay, you can just sit in the cast thing. 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:05.520 So like I got two seats. Everything was fine. I 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.040 should have just sat in the cast seats immediately, but 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.720 I thought everything's very planned out, that's reserved, like I 0:12:10.800 --> 0:12:12.600 just kind of did what I wanted. And there were 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:15.400 like elderly people being like, I want thy aisle, and 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.600 I was like, I'm sorry, I have pee problems. I 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.160 have to sit in that like I'm like fighting with 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:23.200 her uncles and godparents, like I don't know, so obviously 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.080 I'm happy not to be in this row. 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:26.120 Oh my god. 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.600 I went to check like I didn't want to be there, 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.079 but I I'm embarrassed. So now I'm kicked out in 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.920 front of this little college friend of hers, and you know, 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.680 I just I hate it. And also this man is 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:38.760 gay and was just like so dismissive and not nice 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:40.320 to me. And then as soon as Jared showed up, 0:12:40.360 --> 0:12:43.400 he was like, hey, I think I know you. Everything 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.760 switched suddenly you wanted to know all about us. Everyone 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:48.800 wanted to fuck him last night, like every cater worried, 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.080 like everyone. So then we go to the after party 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:54.640 and it's fine. 0:12:54.800 --> 0:12:56.280 It's like, you know, it's fine. 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:58.840 So We're like walking around, We're and then I'm like, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:00.880 I'm just gonna smoke the joint real quick. 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.360 I'm gonna take a hit. So I walk outside. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:08.959 Have you been to Fannies the Academy Museum restaurant? 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:09.800 No? 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.679 No, I guess there's three premieres happening in this building. 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:16.400 I oh, listen. Did I end then I talking to 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.760 the head of catering for twenty five minutes? 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.319 We did? We did. That's after I was. 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:24.920 Rejected by everyone who we did end up just talking 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:29.040 to the head of catering. But I'm like he was hungry. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.320 I go, I'm just gonna step outside. So there's like 0:13:31.360 --> 0:13:34.760 sections with tables and bars. I walk, of course, outside 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:36.880 of the patio. I'm not a mine. I understand this 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:40.240 isn't And I go behind some fen like gate and 0:13:40.280 --> 0:13:43.400 I take a few hits and then I start going 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:46.679 inside and security goes, you should have done that out there, 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:49.760 like on the sidewalk, And to me, I'm like, I'm 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:51.840 not an asshole, Like I walked as far as I 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:54.800 thought would be appropriate, Like I am doing the thing. 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.360 It's not like I sat on the patio chairs, you know, 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.800 oh yeah yeah. And I went, well, he goes, you 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.480 should have gone all the way out, not in our grounds. 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.640 And I went, oh, okay, my bad, and I'm walking. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.000 He goes, should you even be here? And I went what? 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.280 And then I had to like show my little bracelet 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.600 and be like, yeah, I have the bracelet. Is that okay, sir? 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:16.200 I'm like, go fuck off. And then because at that 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.800 point I was like annoyed, and I was wearing a 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:20.920 very cute outfit, and so then I went back in 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:23.680 and he's like it was yeah, it was just like 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:25.520 I can't even believe it. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.560 I just don't get why those women or the gatement like, 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.400 how do they know who the fuck you are? Like 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.640 you could be fucking Nancy Meyer's like best friend from highol. 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.240 No, I think they've all been I mean not for 0:14:36.360 --> 0:14:37.480 a decade. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.520 You know what I mean, Like they would have now 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.560 these are her sisters and best friends. Like I understand, 0:14:41.600 --> 0:14:44.400 it's like cousins, it's godparents. They all know Henry Winkler. 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.920 Like I get it. But to me, I still think 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:48.440 it's cool. She wanted you in her row. 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:49.560 Originally she didn't. 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:51.320 She didn't know because when I saw her at the party, 0:14:51.400 --> 0:14:54.160 she hugged me, was so excited. She goes, I didn't 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.160 know you were here. I would have made an announcement 0:14:56.160 --> 0:14:57.080 when I talked about. 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:57.440 All the actors. 0:14:57.440 --> 0:14:59.440 I'm like, that would have been crazy if you mentioned 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:05.880 Mila Kunis, Michael Keaton, and then a girl with three lines, like, 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.760 but she was so happy to see me in kind 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:11.240 I didn't get the cur I should have gone up 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.120 to Michael Keaton. I was just in such a mood 0:15:13.120 --> 0:15:15.120 for being rejected all night that I was just like 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.880 in my head. But Melakunis and then I saw all 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:21.800 these people speaking Russian, so she brought a lot of family. 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.600 I love that she brings her trash Russian family all 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:25.800 over town because. 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.520 You should have gotten in there. They were not friendly. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:30.720 They did not look friendly. They are Russian. I don't know. 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.160 Yeah, I don't know if if you're Russian and watching, 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.680 you know what I'm talking about. Now, Julia says, I'm 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:38.720 like too sensitive when I see Russians out and about. 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:39.920 It really like affects me. 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.760 It affects me, oh, because like it's like, I don't know, 0:15:43.880 --> 0:15:44.880 I know they would. 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:48.200 Be happy maybe, but yeah they are. Well. 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.680 I went to this like a dyes the grocery store 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.760 that's by where I'm staying, and I spoke Russian with everyone. 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:58.160 An old lady asked me for help. But whatever. Ashton 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.680 Kutcher was there. Oh okay, you know there's been a 0:16:01.680 --> 0:16:05.560 lot of yes, there's been ugh on that Hocky talk. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.560 So my I was kind of shocked because Mila hasn't 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.080 done any process at all about anything. But Laura Benanti, 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.040 former guest, is in it. She wasn't at the premiere, 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:14.280 but she she's in the movie. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.440 Wow, that's fun. 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.680 Oh and the little kids. There's two little kids in 0:16:19.720 --> 0:16:21.360 it and they are stars. 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:22.080 Like it was cute. 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:23.800 And the girl at the premiere, she had like purple 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:25.080 tips like on her hair. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.320 It was cute, like and then were. 0:16:27.160 --> 0:16:29.400 You happy like how your part turned out and everything? Like, 0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.400 I mean, I know you said it's only a couple lines. 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:34.760 No I have like I have like prom curls that 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:35.560 I don't remember. 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.280 That look insane. 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.080 I also, I'm wearing my own like crop top, but 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.840 I tied it and it's just it's fine. They cut 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.720 almost everything because the then the little man was nicer 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:50.040 to me because I think he wanted to have sex 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:51.960 with my friends. So then he was like, oh I 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.120 saw an earlier cut where a lot more of your stuff. 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.320 He's like, didn't you have, Like, weren't you making fun 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.560 of Michael? I go, yeah, I was, But you know 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:00.080 they got it. 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:01.840 I bet he was trying to fucking backtrack because he 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:03.680 was being a dick. He was. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:05.639 He was being a dick, and it's just like I 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:07.160 but I I get Hollywood. 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:07.840 Everyone's crazy. 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.560 I'm like, I'm not trying to sneak into this row, right, 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:13.480 I am happy to sit anywhere like I went. I 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.919 I but maybe I should have just walked away on 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.240 my own feel when I felt like I shouldn't be 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:20.720 there but I didn't know how assigned seats they were, 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:21.000 like I. 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.280 Just do right, well you do were doing what you 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:23.800 were told. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.679 Yeah, but at least I was invited to the party 0:17:27.680 --> 0:17:29.720 this time. I mean a security guard did make sure 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:30.960 that I was invited. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:37.400 But well, you know, maybe he has like the security 0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:39.840 guard has like a weird thing about weed still he's 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:42.040 from the days of weed still being illegal or something. 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.120 No, when I walked in, I go, I think he's 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:44.800 an ex cop. 0:17:45.400 --> 0:17:48.440 Yeah I got ex cop vibes from him. 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:49.879 But whatever. 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:53.560 I either way, it was really fun. It is exciting, 0:17:53.920 --> 0:17:56.160 and Michael Katon is so talented. I teared up during 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.400 the movie multiple times. Really what makes to see it? 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.520 He is he's just really talented. There's a few scenes 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.000 where he's just it's just close ups of his face 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:07.280 like being emotional, and he's just really good. 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.240 He's really good, and he has such an interesting face, 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:11.879 and he can play so many different things. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.400 And I hope that we're getting funny parts too. Yeah, 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:15.199 I hope we're you. 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.119 Getting new generations of Michael Keaton and we're not just 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:22.199 getting like Glenn Powell, like hot boy like cutouts, you know, 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.399 Like I really hope we're gonna get like, who's glenned 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:25.200 to Michael Keaton? 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:25.760 What are you talking? 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:26.000 Like? 0:18:26.040 --> 0:18:26.840 Glenn Powell is. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:30.399 The fucking hot guy in Top Gun, oh, the Sydney 0:18:30.440 --> 0:18:32.760 Sweeney movie, in all the hot guy, he's the hot 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:34.760 guy or whatever. And it's like, fine, we can have 0:18:34.760 --> 0:18:36.160 a hot guy, but I just hope that we're also 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:36.880 getting like Mikey. 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.080 He's not my hot guy. I feel like Austin Butler's 0:18:39.080 --> 0:18:40.000 hotter Glenn Powell. 0:18:40.280 --> 0:18:42.639 That's the same, but same like hot guys, you know 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.440 what I mean. They're like Michael Keaton's like interesting looking 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:47.640 and can play all these weird parts and funny parts, but. 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:49.960 Can also be a handwek guy. I think he was, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:50.960 Yeah he is. 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:52.800 Yeah, I'm like he was, you know, but I guess 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:54.919 he's lived in Wyoming for over twenty years. 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.240 Oh really, yeah, I didn't know that. I mean, Anna 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:01.480 de Armis just moved to Vermont. People are people are cocooning? 0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:04.560 I don't know, well, especially because people aren't filming as 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:08.680 much in LA. I think people are going to like Toronto, Atlanta, 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.520 Jerseys getting tax cuts. Someone was telling me they're filming 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.919 a bunch of stuff in Ireland. Lately Vancouver. I just 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:18.040 think you can live anywhere now as an accer and 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:20.640 just like you're just going to these sets like it's 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:21.520 not the same. 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.320 Totally totally so true. 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:26.679 Wait, speaking of X Cop, and then we really do 0:19:26.760 --> 0:19:30.520 have to start the episode. I somebody one of you 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:34.520 beautiful listeners sent our account, our Instagram account, like a 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:38.440 TikTok or an Instagram reel or something of this guy 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:41.919 explaining how a cop in South Florida, I think it 0:19:42.000 --> 0:19:46.200 was South Florida, a cop somewhere took his wife's hair 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:50.120 from the shower and was planting it at crime scenes 0:19:50.960 --> 0:19:53.480 because he wanted he didn't want to be with her anymore. 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.359 He was planting it at crime scenes and incriminating her. 0:19:57.760 --> 0:19:59.879 And then when they found her hair and like ques 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:03.359 her or whatever, he was like, yes, she has been 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:07.840 acting really weird. He was trying to get her fucking incarcerated. 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.760 And how do they figure it out? And did he 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:14.200 get in trouble? Like what? I don't know? Go on, 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.560 I have to like google the full story. 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.320 Hold on, hopefully she had good enough alibis that they 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:21.520 knew it wasn't her or like where the crime is different? 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:23.320 Because if this guy's a cop. Then he knew where 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.840 to place it. Okay, it's okay. When I google it, 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:30.320 it's literally only coming up on TikTok. Hold time, a 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:32.480 policeman was collecting his wife's hair from the shower and 0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.680 placing it at crime scenes because he wanted her. 0:20:35.480 --> 0:20:37.080 Maybe it's fake. I don't know. 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.879 I just saw it. I just saw this on TikTok 0:20:40.920 --> 0:20:42.800 and I was like, that's wild. And of course it 0:20:42.880 --> 0:20:44.800 was an ex cop and people were like, never marry 0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:46.720 a cop. But now it's like, when I look it up, 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:49.560 it's only on TikTok and like Twitter, So maybe it's fake. 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:54.159 But you know who knows. I wanted to shut on 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:55.040 a cop for a sec. 0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:58.960 Yeah, it's only TikTok. We need another sort, we'll go 0:20:59.040 --> 0:20:59.439 into it. 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:02.600 That's where more and more people are getting their news. 0:21:02.960 --> 0:21:05.480 Well, I have another crime thing. I watched the documentary 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:07.520 I wish to remember the name, but it's on Netflix 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.360 and it's about a woman who is a corrections officer 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:14.200 for seventeen years. She was the assistant manager of it. 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:19.080 She was beloved, very kind, like the employees loved her, 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:22.080 the inmates loved her, like she gave everything up to 0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:27.280 this job. She had a heart and then she helped 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:30.439 an inmate escape and they went on the run, and 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.280 then they've had to investigate and they figured out she's 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.000 been dating him and they've been having phone sex, and 0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:40.280 you get to hear their phone sex tapes, and then 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.720 you see all the footage of like all the times 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.440 she has helped him escape or what's going on. And 0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:48.199 then I don't want to give it away if you 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.120 guys like watch, but it's interesting because all the inmates 0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:53.760 are like, that's real love. Man, they loved each other. 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:57.240 They loved each other. He like, oh he was did 0:21:57.240 --> 0:21:59.200 you do anything? And then all the people in her life 0:21:59.240 --> 0:22:01.080 are like, this is sad. 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:01.840 She was used. 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:03.800 This is a dangerous man, and they wanted to find 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:05.879 her because they're like, he's gonna turn it on her 0:22:05.920 --> 0:22:06.399 and kill her. 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:07.440 This is a bad person. 0:22:07.920 --> 0:22:11.240 And then the inmate confessional like tapes are like, man, 0:22:11.280 --> 0:22:13.840 they really had something special. And then her friends are 0:22:13.840 --> 0:22:16.040 crying being like we didn't know she was so lonely, 0:22:16.080 --> 0:22:22.000 you know, but it was very good. Oh my god, Yes, 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:23.960 I need to watch. I want to watch. 0:22:24.000 --> 0:22:26.320 Also, I don't know everyone's talking about how the Menendez 0:22:26.359 --> 0:22:28.840 Bryan Murphy's gonna get the Menendez Brothers out of jail. 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:32.480 Okay, well I heard there's also not that, but there's 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:37.000 a new doc about the abuse and detailing, and I 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.960 guess they have been in jail for close to forty years. Yeah, 0:22:40.600 --> 0:22:45.520 and if there is now proof and everything about the abuse, yeah, yeah, 0:22:46.240 --> 0:22:48.040 I don't know. I would have to look more into it. 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:52.119 But the TV show is very weird. I have it 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.720 on in the background of stuff, like Ari Grainer's in it. 0:22:55.520 --> 0:22:57.560 I'm watching the Chloe seven y eight, like about the 0:22:57.680 --> 0:23:01.000 Parents right now, Like I just like watch the performances, 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:04.800 but I'm not really into it. Yeah, I just think 0:23:04.840 --> 0:23:07.720 it's too I don't know, I want more real stuff. 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:10.080 I gotta watch this dock. I don't know much about them, 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:11.400 and I'm curious. 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:13.440 Yeah, I mean the last thing I watched about the 0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:15.480 Menendez Brothers was like eight years ago when they did 0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:18.760 Law and Order American Crime Story with Edie Falco and 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.160 like did the full read. 0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:22.640 You know, there's oh my god, but. 0:23:22.640 --> 0:23:24.480 Yeah that was like that was like that was like 0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:27.640 in twenty seventeen or eighteen or something. All right, well, 0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.560 let's get started. We've got a great show. This episode 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:34.200 is freaky, so don't go anywhere. 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:38.639 All right? Everyone? 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:44.439 Did I sound like what's her name? Laura Love Laura Delilah? 0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:49.720 I think it was Laura ritual Baby, Season five, episode fourteen. 0:23:49.760 --> 0:23:53.440 You're thinking ritual, Wow, sounds like a expensive facial. 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:56.200 No that's not no, not so what it's about to happen. 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:58.640 But Casey also made a weird face that he does 0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.560 not think about spot treatments when you here's the word ritual, 0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:04.480 But why do I Is there like a brand? 0:24:04.920 --> 0:24:07.600 Yes, because there's like a brand called Rituals. Isn't there 0:24:07.680 --> 0:24:12.040 or are we seeing origins? Isn't there a Rituals face brand? 0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:18.760 Ritual Prenate, there's Prenatal Rituals Cosmetics. Yes, there's a Rituals cosmetics. 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.879 Because the way Casey scrunches, I'm like, am I making 0:24:21.920 --> 0:24:22.719 this up? No? 0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:24.840 No, no, there's a cosmetics, Which makes sense that Casey 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:26.040 wouldn't know about that and we would. 0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:28.600 Yeah that I'm crashy. I don't know about this either. 0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.320 This looks like I've never seen this bottle of my 0:24:31.359 --> 0:24:33.399 goddamn life. 0:24:34.760 --> 0:24:35.160 Well wait. 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.000 I also wanted to point out that the air date 0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:39.280 of this episode is February third, two thousand and four, 0:24:39.440 --> 0:24:40.120 two three four. 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:43.159 I thought you'd kind of liked that. I bet we 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:43.800 had a funday. 0:24:43.760 --> 0:24:45.080 I bet I have had a fun day in high 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:49.080 school writing the date down two three four. All right, 0:24:49.680 --> 0:24:52.000 So two people who work for the park district are 0:24:52.000 --> 0:24:56.520 in the park. They're picking everything up from condoms, dog crap, needles, 0:24:56.640 --> 0:24:59.439 be careful, but pick it up. One's a veteran and 0:24:59.480 --> 0:25:02.040 he's showing, oh, a guy that seems like he's on 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.560 his first day of the ropes. The short one is like, 0:25:04.640 --> 0:25:07.920 whoa look at this and it's bowls of blood and beads, 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.160 and the tall ones like, yeah, it happens animal sacrifice. 0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:12.040 Put it in the bag. 0:25:13.560 --> 0:25:17.560 And the little one's like, I don't know, it's the body, 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:19.439 and the tall ones like, shut up, it's just a 0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:21.960 dead chicken. And then he goes, oh, it ain't no chicken. 0:25:22.080 --> 0:25:24.760 So we cut Tom Melinda Warner doing her work. The 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:29.159 victim is black male, seven or eight years old. I 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.639 don't like that they called him a male. That's a child. 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:36.200 Do they do that for kids? They have to identify 0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:39.720 the gender they do. There's just something that I'm like, 0:25:39.800 --> 0:25:42.040 would they say seven or nine female or they be 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:42.840 like girl. 0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:45.520 I just remember, like they wouldn't say boy. Yeah, I 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:45.879 don't know. 0:25:46.480 --> 0:25:49.040 It just reminded me that black boys have to grow 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.280 up faster and that they're seen as like adults. And 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:56.960 I was wondering if this is normal or if it's yeah, 0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:58.240 that kind of prejudice. 0:25:58.440 --> 0:25:59.560 So yeah, I thought about that. 0:26:00.200 --> 0:26:04.680 But it gets worse than calling yeah, listen, had arms, 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:08.800 legs they're missing. Stabler is there to get the rapport 0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:10.040 and scope out the scene. 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:11.639 It could be a ritual killing. 0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.040 And the bones were cut in the middle, not in 0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:17.000 the joints, and Melinda's like, easier ways to do this. 0:26:17.560 --> 0:26:19.639 So to me, I'm like, a professional, didn't do this. 0:26:19.880 --> 0:26:21.480 The bones are cut in the middle, but later we 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:26.240 find out it is very meticulous, So I'm confused already. 0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:29.520 So Benson and Stabler talked to the tall man and. 0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.080 He looks so sad that he saw a dead child body. 0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:35.159 And he's like, listen, I've seen some dead goats and 0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:38.000 other animals, but not a child, and then he goes, 0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:44.120 pretty freaky people in this city, yes, So Melinda calls 0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:46.600 them over. Stabler is like, animals I've heard of, but 0:26:46.640 --> 0:26:50.640 what religion sacrifices kids? And then Melinda goes, oh, yeah, 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:52.960 the boy's throat was cut while he was still alive, 0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:55.720 and then it's a close up on Benson and Stabler 0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:58.199 and their faces are just like we're in for a 0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:02.560 doozy and we start the credits. So we're back at 0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.080 the Emmy's office and the child died with when his 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:10.560 carotid artery was cut. Then he was dismembered. He died 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.320 about twelve hours ago. And then she says, not a 0:27:13.359 --> 0:27:16.680 hack chob you know, it was methodical, the bone cutting 0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.640 and everything, like they knew exactly what they were doing. 0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:22.520 And then Melinda starts explaining how flesh around the neck 0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.480 and limbs were flensed, and Stabler says, what we're all thinking. 0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:30.119 What So then there's like a dummy neck, headless person 0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:32.520 and she does a presentation of like how the cutting 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.880 happened and the flensing or whatever, and that the blood 0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:39.320 and the bulls do match the victim, but they'll do 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:44.359 a DNA test too. What doesn't the blood prove the DNA? Like, 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:46.320 what's the blood day, Like, the. 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:48.960 Blood type is the same, so it's likely his, but 0:27:49.000 --> 0:27:50.879 they got to do the DNA to confirm. 0:27:50.640 --> 0:27:52.800 Got to cut it, and she says she's never seen 0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:55.840 anything like it and that he was bled out by 0:27:55.880 --> 0:27:57.000 hanging upside down. 0:27:57.800 --> 0:28:00.160 Oh, I'm really sad. 0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:05.119 And then they asked like, can we id him and 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.480 she goes, yeah, there's an old scar in his stomach 0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:10.280 and that might help id the body. But other than that, 0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:12.560 there are no signs of abuse and the kid was 0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:15.720 well fed, so it's a healthy ass kid. And we're 0:28:15.720 --> 0:28:18.120 back at the priesting ready to fill in Daddy Craigs 0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.920 and get directions on what's next. But there's no hits 0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.840 or clues on the kid, and you know, they're just chatting, 0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:27.000 brainstorming as Munch walks in with some boxes and Munch 0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.720 talks to a professor of the occult who says that 0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:33.720 the bowls and the blood are very commonly used in Santoria, 0:28:34.359 --> 0:28:37.080 and Finn has the scoop on Santoria from his old 0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:40.920 drug policing days. I was first practiced by enslaved Africans 0:28:41.160 --> 0:28:46.080 who are brought to America and Christianity was forced onto them, 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.680 and so they switched and would call their old gods 0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:54.040 by saint names. And so that's like the candle the 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:57.960 Saints and the Santuria a mix and match and Finn 0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:01.440 has memories of like care Caribbean or Caribbean. 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:04.160 How do you say it? I say it both ways. 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.960 I don't know. I think Caribbean if you're talking about 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:09.080 a person, but I don't know. 0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:13.640 Oh okay, and Fit has memories of Caribbean and South 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:16.560 American drug dealers putting hexes on him. They threw grave 0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.760 dust on him and they would leave dead chickens at 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:25.120 the precinct. So Kragan stops the chatter and is like, okay, 0:29:25.240 --> 0:29:28.760 let's go with what we have. Ritualize murder by somebody 0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:33.240 who practices Santaia and go So we go to Martinez 0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.840 Imports and that's where the bowl and candle is from 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.280 that they found. So Benson and Stabler visit and they 0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:41.320 sell thousands every month, which is wild. 0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.200 I'm like thousands. It's like. 0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.760 Thousands of Santa Ria candles a month. And if that's 0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:51.160 so wiser store, so Dusty, get it together. But we're 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.959 kind of lucky right now. It's a new Saint candle, 0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.920 Saint Cecilia. So there might be soup. There might be 0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:02.120 scoop and soup. You never know. It shipped to three 0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:04.400 buyers and one of the buyers is in New York 0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.200 and it was sold to the Center of Study of Santaia. 0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.680 So the man in charge there, wearing a sweater vest 0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.040 and holding a New York Post style paper, says, oh, 0:30:14.120 --> 0:30:17.480 Central Park voodoo slings on the cover, So it must 0:30:17.480 --> 0:30:20.360 be our religion. But our religion is peaceful and chill, 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.200 and Sailor's like, this isn't about religious tradition. It's about 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.200 murder my friend. And Sailor's losing it. And this guy's 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:29.240 like the Supreme Court and religious freedoms, and Sailor's like, 0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:30.520 I don't give a shit. 0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:33.000 A candle you had here. 0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:36.160 Was placed a few feet away from a dismembered child. 0:30:36.520 --> 0:30:39.520 No one cares about your fucking religion. Get insulted, but 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:42.760 get move on. It's so fucking annoying to me, Like, 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.040 you don't respect Santaia. 0:30:45.480 --> 0:30:46.040 Shut up. 0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:50.800 There's bowls of blood, there's a headless child, and you're 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:53.320 like the Supreme Court said we can cut off a 0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.880 chicken's head. I'm like so annoyed with this leader, but 0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:58.880 I also get it. These people are probably rude in 0:30:58.920 --> 0:31:00.520 him all the time. But he says, fuck you, and 0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:02.360 you're big a treat. You need a cord order and 0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:04.440 you can find your way out, so they gotta go. 0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.040 So since they can't bully their way into a member list, 0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:09.160 they're now bullying case you know, back into breaking the 0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:10.400 law to get a court order. 0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:11.480 And you know the drill. 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:14.760 She's like the law constitution, and Stabler's like dead child 0:31:14.800 --> 0:31:17.800 with bowls of blood. And then Stabler calls the religious 0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:20.920 store owner a hostile and it's like, yeah, it takes 0:31:20.920 --> 0:31:23.960 one to no one. And then the candle also isn't enough, 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:26.680 Casey says, because like they were sold out of state 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:29.480 and sent and you can't prove that the candle was 0:31:29.520 --> 0:31:32.120 from the store. And Benson's like, listen, I talked to 0:31:32.160 --> 0:31:34.920 the other churches that have the candles. They haven't like 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:38.160 used those candles. Yet no one has those candles. And 0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:41.360 I love a spinoff called Candle Detectives. And so then 0:31:42.800 --> 0:31:46.320 Craigan points his finger and says, also, like they didn't 0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:49.440 drain the kid at the park. That's that's something to know, 0:31:49.640 --> 0:31:52.520 you know, they needed privacy. So maybe it was at 0:31:52.520 --> 0:31:55.120 the center, and you know, maybe it was a member. 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.800 So Casey, why don't you say, since they do sell 0:31:57.840 --> 0:32:01.000 the candles, maybe a child was bled out in their 0:32:01.240 --> 0:32:05.280 religious home. Now it's gone too far. So she suggests 0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:06.920 they go talk to the people that live and work 0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:09.120 around the center to see if they have any leads. 0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.440 And we meet an old white woman and she's like, boo, 0:32:11.560 --> 0:32:15.720 I hate them, and it's like, worry less about the 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.440 center and more about your roots. Two inches of outgrowth, honey, 0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:23.200 get to the salon spying on Santaia too much. 0:32:24.040 --> 0:32:24.840 But she was a tea. 0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.520 But this actress was a teacher in the Faculty, which 0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:30.400 I recently rewatched, and so that was exciting. 0:32:30.440 --> 0:32:31.600 Is that a blind spot for you? 0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.720 No? I actually think I saw the Faculty when I 0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:39.240 was really young and kind of blocked it out because 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:40.240 it scared me a lot. 0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:41.160 Yeah. 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.280 So she was the dead body in the closet that 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:47.560 like falls out. Oh and she was also in She 0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.400 Devil and Sex and the City's episode four Women in 0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.680 a Funeral and she did pass in nine, but we 0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:56.240 are lucky to have her here. And she does not 0:32:56.360 --> 0:32:59.040 like young people exposed to this stuff on school nights. 0:32:59.400 --> 0:33:02.760 It's at ten, there's so many kids and not one 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:04.760 more than eight years old, and she calls it a 0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.920 crying shame. During this time, munch in Finner at a 0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.360 restaurant and the restaurant workers like, oh yeah, pretty weird 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:13.080 shit happens over there, and he goes, one time I 0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.200 was closing up, I heard shrieking and drums and noises 0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.400 and animals. And Novak is using all this info to 0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.000 do a walk and talk with a judge to try 0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.120 to get a warrant. And the judge is like, girl, 0:33:23.200 --> 0:33:26.680 get real strange behaviors, not grounds for a warrant. Kids 0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.240 go there for youth classes that have been well documented, 0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.440 and the judge understands what racism is and it's nice 0:33:32.440 --> 0:33:34.960 to see that, you know, she knows what a racist 0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:37.760 in action looks like. And she doesn't like that all 0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:40.920 these old whites don't like the Sansoria and Novak again 0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:45.120 screams there's a dead boy, and Novak uses the words 0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.720 cut up and bled him like a pig. So the 0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:50.440 judge approves the warrant, and then the judge hopes this 0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:54.120 doesn't turn into a witch hunt. Mike Doyle's sexy asses 0:33:54.160 --> 0:33:57.200 on the scene with Stabler and Benson and the religious 0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.920 leader wearing all white and beads, and he is livid, 0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:04.400 and Doyle finds some chicken leftovers and Stabler can't find 0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.480 a list of the members anywhere, and accuse the leader 0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:09.680 of deleting them, and he says, fuck you, I know 0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:11.720 the law, and if you know anything about a religion, 0:34:12.080 --> 0:34:14.719 you know my people would never do something like this. 0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.839 Benson saunters over and goes, what makes you so sure, 0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:20.200 and the man goes, well, the child is found near 0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:22.600 a lake, and the lake is ruled by a saint 0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.920 that is a protector of children, and it would be 0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.080 blasphemous in front of the saint of children to do this. 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.320 And Stabler goes, what if the killer is a heretic 0:34:32.520 --> 0:34:35.560 and dude, isla, I know, I like that, And dude 0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:39.520 is like, whoa fuck. Maybe in Africa, but definitely not here. 0:34:39.600 --> 0:34:42.160 So then Benson goes, okay, let's she goes full ice. 0:34:42.440 --> 0:34:44.919 She goes, let's round up the African immigrants. Who can 0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:47.799 we harass. So Stabler says, give me the list of 0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:51.440 immigrants and that would do a human sacrifice, and I 0:34:51.480 --> 0:34:54.160 will o or I will harass everyone at every service 0:34:54.200 --> 0:34:56.959 and call the Department of Animal Control and the health 0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:00.400 Department will visit your dumb ass. And he goes, okay, okay, 0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.600 like this is blackmail, but I have the lists in 0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:07.160 my pocket, and here are the recent immigrants. You fucking 0:35:07.680 --> 0:35:10.319 aggressive guys. You know, one time when I was living 0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:14.040 in Williamsburg, an apartment by my coffee shop was throwing 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:15.640 a party, and so I went and they did have 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.960 a donkey, and then someone called animal control and peda 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.280 on the donkey. But I have a photo with the donkey, 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:25.359 and I was happy to meet the donkey. And then 0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:27.720 they were back at the coffee shopping like fucking someone 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:32.040 called peta, this is bullshit, and I'm like, I. 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:38.000 Just wanted to have a donkey at our party, all right. 0:35:38.160 --> 0:35:40.840 So we get the list, but Warner has something, and 0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.200 I'm sure it's gonna be graphics, sad and filled with 0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:47.560 clues and information. So Warner tested the victim's hair for isotopes, 0:35:47.600 --> 0:35:50.719 like get the fuck out of here, and so it's 0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:54.000 a chemical signature of a location. And his levels are 0:35:54.040 --> 0:35:57.239 in New York and he's been in. His isotope level 0:35:57.320 --> 0:35:59.480 shows that he's been in New York City for about 0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:04.600 four weeks. The bones, though, show a strontium level that 0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.960 she shared with some anthropologists who said that the levels 0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:10.400 are a match for Nigeria. 0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:11.720 So legit. 0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:15.839 The bone strownium levels led them to a city in Nigeria, 0:36:16.360 --> 0:36:18.080 and he's only been in New York for a month 0:36:18.160 --> 0:36:21.000 before he was killed. So then Benson goes, fuck, he 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.320 was brought here to be sacrificed. That's why nobody reported 0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:29.239 him missing. So Stabler then is like, you know, there's 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.600 no immigrant, there's no recent immigrants at the center, which 0:36:31.600 --> 0:36:34.760 means he just harassed a whole religious community for no reason. 0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:36.200 They're updating the captain. 0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.560 They spin out of the office to go to the 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:42.600 Immigration and Customs Enforcement and see if they have this 0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:45.399 child on file. So it's a walk and talk with 0:36:45.440 --> 0:36:48.360 this worker, and all their immigrant kids are doing fine. 0:36:48.400 --> 0:36:51.720 So this kid came to this country illegally. He checked 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:55.279 all local addresses of all their new boys and from 0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:58.640 Nigeria that are all legal. Everyone is safe, everyone is happy. 0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:03.040 But he he's not surprised that this boy came illegally 0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:06.680 because it's the third largest money maker after drugs and guns, 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:10.040 is the sale of human beings. And fifteen thousand kids 0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:14.280 are trafficked here each year. And Stabler goes in Africa 0:37:14.320 --> 0:37:19.000 and he goes, no America, you fucking here, and he 0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.040 sends them to talk to a woman at the consulate 0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:26.720 came a me Buddha who is in quotes passionate about 0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:30.680 stolen children. And they're in a windy staircase. Behind the 0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:34.000 woman she is gorgeous. And this is Erica Alexandra from 0:37:34.040 --> 0:37:38.360 Living Single and she was most recently an American fiction. 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:42.720 If anyone has seen that, yes. 0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:47.200 Kara famously told me it was a lighthearted comedy and 0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:49.240 a death, a death in the first ten minutes. 0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:52.880 I famously mischaracterized that movie a little bit. Yes, yes 0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:53.359 I did. 0:37:53.920 --> 0:37:56.760 I went and being like, this will be silly balling. 0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.279 I like tears, Yeah I have. I told you when 0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:01.920 I was in charge of renting a movie for my 0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:04.000 family and I was like, okay, I have to pick 0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.279 something that's not perverted. I don't want to watch sex 0:38:06.280 --> 0:38:08.279 scenes with my family. What am I gonna get? And 0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:14.440 then I got The Banger Sisters and that is about 0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:17.799 two aged sluts reminiscing about their slut times and like 0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:21.080 you truly saw there the found they had a polaroid 0:38:21.120 --> 0:38:24.440 collection of Dix and there were photos of I was 0:38:24.520 --> 0:38:27.920 just like their daughter's fucking in the pool. It was 0:38:27.960 --> 0:38:30.600 a tough, yeah, tough watch. I remember my dad going 0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:34.240 and getting Clementines. It was like so uncomfortable. 0:38:36.480 --> 0:38:38.600 But I guess I void anything with the word bang 0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:40.480 in it with your parents. I guess, you know. 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:42.759 I just thought there was I didn't even but I 0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:44.440 don't even know if I knew, Like when did that 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:47.400 come out that I didn't understand what banger meant like, 0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:49.800 but it's like head banger. 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:50.759 Like I didn't get to that. 0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:53.120 I came out in O two, So you were, what 0:38:53.400 --> 0:38:56.279 like fifteen, I was too old to not know that 0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.839 this was going to be perverted. But you know, we 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.520 Goldie Haun, Susan Sarandon. How could we not? 0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.320 Yeah, that house like good pal fun. 0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:09.000 Right, Like, how would I have known that it was 0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.920 gonna be this weird situation? 0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:16.600 But you know, a good family story, one for the books. 0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.120 So anyways, Erica Alexander's here and she's very passionate and 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:22.520 she's gonna help them. So she's gorgeous. She's wearing a 0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:26.440 matching like head piece and dress. It's a maroon color 0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:29.759 gold jewelry, and she's explaining, most Nigerians are people that 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.160 are super educated and like doing great, but rural places, 0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:37.400 tradition dies hard, and it's possible that they might sacrifice humans. 0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.760 But she's like kids disappearing like from Africa. That happens 0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.400 all the time to Europe in the US for slave labor. 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:48.600 This isn't you know? This is about child labor, sexual labor, sweatshops, domestics. 0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:50.919 So they sit in her office and they learn about 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:52.759 all this, and Benson asks if there have been any 0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.560 missing children reports from Bendian City and she says, no 0:39:56.719 --> 0:40:00.359 boys that age, but someone that works the switchboard at 0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:02.560 the consulate said there was a call two days ago 0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:05.239 from a girl worried about her missing brother, and then 0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.480 the caller hung up before she got any more info. 0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.759 And the name is a Johnny. And Sailor says, can 0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.480 we check phone records to find the info? And she 0:40:13.560 --> 0:40:16.880 says yes, no worries like have at it, but only 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.319 and then, but you know, only for this investigation. So 0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.279 we're in Craigan's office having a meeting. They are all 0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:24.279 as shocked as we are that they just shared their 0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.719 phone records and much as like Americans would never help 0:40:27.719 --> 0:40:30.560 in this way, and Staybor goes much shut up. She 0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:34.000 knows we're not interested in state secrets. He does not 0:40:34.080 --> 0:40:36.839 take much seriously today. And then Benson comes in with 0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:39.920 some files. She there's been eight calls to the consulate 0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.520 switchboard at the time. The sister called so much in 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:44.640 Finn go to this rich ass looking house and there's 0:40:44.680 --> 0:40:46.680 a maid that looks like one hundred one Dulmatian made, 0:40:47.120 --> 0:40:48.560 and she's like, you can't come in. 0:40:48.920 --> 0:40:49.359 But in the. 0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:51.760 Distance they see a young black girl cleaning the floors, 0:40:51.880 --> 0:40:55.160 and so then Fing goes, says a Johnny, and you 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.160 see the girl make a face and the old woman goes. 0:40:57.000 --> 0:40:59.640 No bye, and no one near by that name Chris. 0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.480 Supposed the door, and Fin shoves his way in, and 0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:04.759 the girl is so cute. Her name is Naima, like 0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:08.120 from America's Top Model season four, and she confesses to 0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.480 Finn that yes, she did call and ask, and she's like, 0:41:10.520 --> 0:41:13.040 did they find a Johnny? And so they will have 0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.000 to tell her her brother is dead, which is sad, 0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:18.200 but there are children's services. Finn is talking to her. 0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.880 She says she works from six a m. To midnight 0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:24.600 and can't go out. How much housework is there to 0:41:24.600 --> 0:41:28.319 do eighteen hours, even if it's a giant house. I'm like, 0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:32.160 what what possibly needs to be done for that many. 0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:32.680 Hours a day? 0:41:33.480 --> 0:41:35.839 I never even really know what people's maids are doing 0:41:35.880 --> 0:41:39.040 from like you know, nine to five, Like every day 0:41:39.120 --> 0:41:41.040 you have eight hours of housework in your I mean, 0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.240 I guess these people have big houses and there's cooking 0:41:43.280 --> 0:41:46.520 and other shit to do. But Jesus multiple help too. 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.000 It's wilding cause. 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:50.920 I get six, Sam, okay, you're making breakfast for work. 0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.279 Yeah, and then it's like it should be wrapped up 0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:58.320 by eight latest. I mean, this is also illegals, so 0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.160 none of this should be happening. She should be at 0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.200 the mall. So she found out about her brother because 0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.959 the evil rich lady was watching the news and they meant, 0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:09.920 you know, they mentioned the scar on the stomach, and 0:42:10.000 --> 0:42:12.640 so she knew it was her brother. He had a 0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:15.880 scar from falling off a tree while climbing it. And 0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.279 so then of course these men showed up said we're 0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.760 going to take you to America, to a grade school, 0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:23.200 and it's like, come on, no one's ever just trying 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.160 to help you. She explains that when she got to America, 0:42:26.239 --> 0:42:28.000 she was in a giant room with tons of beds 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:30.080 and people would come look at them, and she was 0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:32.720 hoping to be taken together, but this woman only wanted 0:42:32.760 --> 0:42:35.840 her and I hope they fucking slit this bitch's throat, 0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:38.280 but they locked her in a cellar so she couldn't 0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.320 run away. And Finn and Stabler they meet in the 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.400 spyglassroom with the woman from the consulate and she's going 0:42:44.480 --> 0:42:47.399 to find their mother and send a Johnny's body back 0:42:47.440 --> 0:42:51.920 and help take care of everything. And I'm really excited 0:42:51.960 --> 0:42:54.359 because the woman in charge of the house is at 0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.640 a charity event. Oh it's so good, So there's gonna 0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:03.320 be a public arrest. So the consolent worker, like you know, goes. 0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.280 What she doesn't know is that charity begins at home. 0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.760 And it's like, all right, put that on a shirt, 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.000 and a bunch of old white rich ladies and hats 0:43:12.040 --> 0:43:14.400 are clapping, and we see her in all purple and 0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.560 she's like, I'm not going with you and an axe 0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:19.719 all proper, and it's like you're arrested for being a 0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:23.640 slave master, so you gotta go, and Finn goes. If 0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:27.200 you haven't heard, Lincoln freed the slaves and Peter Herman 0:43:27.320 --> 0:43:29.600 is her lawyer, which makes me understand why everyone hated 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:30.120 him at first. 0:43:30.200 --> 0:43:32.160 Like I know he did good work eventually. 0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:33.839 But like this is an example of like why they're 0:43:33.880 --> 0:43:37.000 like he defends yeah, yeah, ah, it smells. 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:39.360 Like what do they always say? Not pigs but something. 0:43:39.360 --> 0:43:41.920 They're the I'm also like obsessed with this event, Like 0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:44.759 it's all these women that are dressed in like crazy 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.160 like Chanelle suits and shit, and they're like and the 0:43:48.200 --> 0:43:53.080 flower chair is Mildred Worthington, Like it's all like that vibe, 0:43:53.120 --> 0:43:56.400 and it's so great to send someone in and be like, 0:43:56.520 --> 0:43:59.319 arrest this bitch for slave owning in the middle of that. 0:44:00.200 --> 0:44:02.919 It's so good. Well, I'm sure the rest of them 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.279 were like, oh jeez, could have been me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:44:05.280 --> 0:44:07.480 They're like oh, let go. Yeah. 0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:09.399 I'm sure they were all running to use their cell 0:44:09.440 --> 0:44:11.040 phones to call and have there. 0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.960 That is why the rich need to be murdered, Like 0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:17.800 you are so rich and you still need a slave, 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:22.120 Like yeah, you could pay a couple a couplet girls, 0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:28.200 good pay I just yeah, oh my god. So this 0:44:28.320 --> 0:44:31.600 bitch is in cement room bars going she's a domestic 0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:35.480 legal worker, and the rich lady is just like whatever, 0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.759 I gave a poor girl a job and stabled her. 0:44:37.880 --> 0:44:39.399 Goes, oh yeah, what do you pay her? 0:44:39.760 --> 0:44:42.719 She doesn't pay her, only room and board, no money 0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:44.520 at all, but then she has the audacity to go. 0:44:44.719 --> 0:44:46.719 It's more than she would get at home, and it's like, 0:44:46.719 --> 0:44:49.120 you don't think you should make zero at home. I 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:53.279 think she could make zero. When asked how she found her, 0:44:53.400 --> 0:44:56.480 she's being fucking cagy. You know, she doesn't know. It's 0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:59.360 none of their business. And they were like, listen, you 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:01.960 knew she was here illegally, and you did nothing. Slavery 0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.440 is a federal crime. Have fun in prison for ten years. 0:45:04.800 --> 0:45:07.480 And Finn does a very convincing speech and he's like, 0:45:07.719 --> 0:45:09.920 you're not gonna like the dress code and the joint 0:45:10.400 --> 0:45:13.480 and this woman makes me sick, and fucking tell them 0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:15.960 where you bought this girl? And the cont went to 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:19.320 a warehouse in Long Island City and bought a child 0:45:19.719 --> 0:45:22.520 and then sits at a charity event, This cold hearted bitch, 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.839 and I bet she will end up in jail. She's 0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:27.919 not getting out of this, we hope. So then they're 0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.160 like trying to be like, where did you buy where 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:32.200 did you get this girl? Where did you get this girl? 0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:35.239 And she is not playing ball, So Stabler runs out 0:45:35.280 --> 0:45:37.759 of focks to give, and so he gets up and 0:45:38.000 --> 0:45:41.440 dramatically to a Unicop is like Booker and then that's 0:45:41.480 --> 0:45:42.520 like Trevor's. 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:43.719 Like, no, no, hold on, okay. 0:45:43.800 --> 0:45:46.880 And finally she confesses I paid a fee. I don't 0:45:46.920 --> 0:45:49.560 know the Oh no, she's still fucking playing games. Oh 0:45:49.600 --> 0:45:52.960 the numbers disconnected. I don't remember this. I don't remember that. 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:56.400 And finally she screams, I went to a warehouse in 0:45:56.440 --> 0:45:58.960 Long Island City. And it's like, why didn't you just 0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:00.680 tell them? 0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:02.560 And you're not disgusted with yourself? 0:46:02.840 --> 0:46:05.680 What is in these people's I bet there are also 0:46:05.719 --> 0:46:08.239 people that would go out to dinners and be like, 0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:10.640 I'm not even racist, you know what I mean? 0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:15.320 Yes, fucking do right would fit right in with this group. 0:46:16.040 --> 0:46:19.960 So they go to Long Island City and it's one 0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:21.759 of more of the more of the chilling moments in 0:46:21.800 --> 0:46:24.719 the show's history. They had to astoreage unit and there's 0:46:24.800 --> 0:46:27.640 like an additional lock on the door and the facility. 0:46:27.719 --> 0:46:30.200 Dude's like, that's not our lock, that's a separate lock 0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:32.800 that they brought in, and it's a ton of children. 0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.680 They're all chained up. It's so sad. There's such cute kids, 0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:41.120 heartbreaking kids and chains everywhere. The detectives are stunned. And 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.520 I also just hate that this is a reality for 0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:46.200 so many people on the planet. And the detectives are 0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:49.560 showing the kids of Johnny's photo and one girl knows 0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:52.040 him and she says he cried when he was taken 0:46:52.080 --> 0:46:55.560 away from his sister. And a girl with a giant 0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:58.880 scar on her face is, you know, giving some scoop. 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:00.880 And then a really cute boy tells Benson, you know, 0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:02.960 they were friends and their beds were next to each other, 0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.279 and his name is Quasi. And a nice man took 0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.160 a Johnny. He brought them all candy. He was white, 0:47:09.160 --> 0:47:11.600 and the man liked a Johnny's doll that was made 0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:14.759 for luck. So that's all the info we got, and 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.000 thank god we got to free all these kids. And 0:47:17.800 --> 0:47:20.200 finn Is like, yep, the traffickers were gonna leave them 0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:23.600 there to die. So they basically the traffickers saw Johnny 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.360 was the body was found, saw that the heat was on, 0:47:27.120 --> 0:47:31.439 like locked with a separate drill type lock, dead bolt 0:47:31.480 --> 0:47:33.120 lock on the outside of the door, and we're just 0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:40.080 gonna let these chained children slowly starve to death. Oh horrible, 0:47:41.200 --> 0:47:43.440 so on, Oh my god, I forgot You're gonna have 0:47:43.520 --> 0:47:46.600 to report on what happened. Okay, So once the trafficker 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:48.920 person saw okay, But then in my head, I'm like, 0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:50.040 you can't let them loose. 0:47:50.800 --> 0:47:51.480 Let them loose. 0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:56.000 Yeah, so now we have a fucking new theory and 0:47:56.040 --> 0:47:59.280 I'm really into this. Finn goes, since it's a white person, 0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.880 you know, goes, maybe it could be someone that just 0:48:02.120 --> 0:48:05.800 knows about Santoria but doesn't practice it, And Sadler goes, 0:48:06.160 --> 0:48:08.880 but why would we need a Santaia cover story? 0:48:09.000 --> 0:48:11.560 What's it covering up? And Finn goes, human. 0:48:11.320 --> 0:48:14.680 Trafficking, it's you know, late laborer, but for sex, Like, 0:48:14.760 --> 0:48:17.240 this is what it is. Someone killed their fucking sex slave. 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:20.200 And this person knew about the doll, which means he 0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:25.240 knows about African folklore. So Craigan quickly TRACKFIC controls the crew. 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:28.640 Sabler goes to the Santa Ria Center because they only 0:48:28.640 --> 0:48:31.680 asked about members, but like maybe there was a random 0:48:31.680 --> 0:48:34.560 white in there. And then Finn goes to talk to Naima, 0:48:34.600 --> 0:48:37.400 the sister, to get scoop about the doll. And the 0:48:37.440 --> 0:48:40.560 doll scoop is it's a protector. It's a little statue 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:43.120 and it stays in a pouch for safety and the 0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.480 mom made the pouch herself, and since they have the 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.439 same doll, Finn looks at it closely and goes, oh, 0:48:48.440 --> 0:48:51.000 it kens, and then the girl goes, yeah, my great 0:48:51.000 --> 0:48:53.759 great grandfather made them with a special mark. And they 0:48:53.800 --> 0:48:56.240 haven't found her mother yet, but she wants to go home, 0:48:56.360 --> 0:48:58.160 but for now she is happy. They're going to help 0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.920 find her a foster home. And she is dealing with 0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:03.799 the death of her brother quite well and sadly, I 0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:06.200 think this girl, there's a lot of tragedy, and so 0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:08.279 she but she lets them have the doll for good 0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.960 luck to help find her mother, and he's really touched 0:49:11.000 --> 0:49:13.880 by having this doll. And then back at the center there, 0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:16.400 our leader is like, oh, we don't sell the candles 0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:19.799 to whites. Maybe other places let white do Santoria, not. 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:20.560 In my house. 0:49:20.760 --> 0:49:24.799 And so they're like yeah, but like could someone have 0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.040 like are you sure there weren't any whites, And then 0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:29.680 a light bulb. He remembers they had an art exhibit 0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:32.439 recently and a few white people did get to buy 0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:35.279 some stuff, and one of those people was Maggie Shay 0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.720 and she has a gallery and she says she buys 0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.640 lots of interesting things and uses candles at the gallery 0:49:41.000 --> 0:49:43.080 and house because she likes the way they smell. And 0:49:43.120 --> 0:49:46.279 she's like, what is this even about, and Stabler says, 0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:48.440 we're talking to tons of people. You're not special, so 0:49:48.520 --> 0:49:51.279 just answer our candle questions. And then they ask if 0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:54.040 she was at the gallery Mounder or Tuesday. She goes, no, 0:49:54.239 --> 0:49:55.800 I was actually out of town. I was in Ghana. 0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.239 I went on a buying trip and I found a 0:49:58.239 --> 0:50:01.319 great new artist and I was happy about it. But 0:50:01.560 --> 0:50:04.160 and so I cut my trip short, a month short. 0:50:04.280 --> 0:50:05.719 She goes, I got home Tuesday night. 0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:08.560 Must have been like a bullseye artist find like, you 0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:12.480 cut your trip a month short? Geez. Yeah, She's like, 0:50:12.520 --> 0:50:13.719 I found the guy. I'm out of here. 0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.799 And then, no matter how many times I've seen this, 0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:21.680 when Finn like comes out in the gallery holding the 0:50:21.800 --> 0:50:25.440 same good luck doll that matches Naimas, I get shivers 0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:27.880 like excitement, like all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, 0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:30.399 we're gonna get these motherfuckers. Yeah, and I get them. 0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:32.759 So he's like, oh, what's this doll? And she goes, oh, no, 0:50:32.800 --> 0:50:34.839 that's not for sale. That was actually a welcome home 0:50:34.880 --> 0:50:38.799 gift from my husband. Finn says, where did he get it? 0:50:39.320 --> 0:50:41.320 She goes one hundred and twenty fifth Street flea market, 0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:44.120 and so he's like, well, I would love to get 0:50:44.120 --> 0:50:44.919 one of these my life. 0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:48.920 My wife loves this dumb shit. So what's your husband's number? 0:50:49.719 --> 0:50:52.040 And so then her husband is a professor at Hudson 0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:56.200 Done Done, and he teaches art history. So let's go 0:50:56.360 --> 0:50:59.799 see Alan. And it's Michael Emerson and he, you know, 0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:02.880 I think he's a classic character actor. And the character 0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:05.920 is I'm a dork and a freak. Is that a 0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:06.840 good man to describe? 0:51:06.840 --> 0:51:09.680 Well him, I mostly know him from Evil, you know, 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:11.680 my favorite show that I talk about all the time. 0:51:11.719 --> 0:51:15.600 I know him from Evil, and he's a conniving little 0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:19.600 devil man, you know, but like he's supposed to be 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:22.839 kind of get on your nerves. And also I want 0:51:22.880 --> 0:51:24.880 to point out that the woman that plays the wife 0:51:24.960 --> 0:51:28.279 is Triny Alvarado, who no longer acts, but was the 0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:31.680 title character in the movie Stella starring Bette Midler, which 0:51:31.719 --> 0:51:35.360 I do bring up all the time because oh, actually. 0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.160 I don't think you bring it up enough because I 0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:38.480 don't even know it. Yeah. 0:51:38.560 --> 0:51:40.480 No, it's the one where nobody comes to the birthday. Oh, no, 0:51:40.560 --> 0:51:43.320 you played it in cinema Trix, Yes, yes, and nobody 0:51:43.360 --> 0:51:46.480 comes to the birthday party and I always call it, 0:51:46.560 --> 0:51:48.360 oh no, I don't want to be Stella on my birthday. 0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:50.279 I can't remember if Stella is her or the mother 0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:52.960 or Bette Midler's character. I'm pretty sure it's the daughter's character. 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:55.120 But anyway, she was an actress in a lot of 0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:58.919 stuff in the eighties and shit, but then not much lately, 0:51:58.960 --> 0:52:02.000 and I think she's quick the biz. But anyway, she 0:52:02.120 --> 0:52:04.279 was in Little Women. She was in the original Little 0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:04.759 Women with. 0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:10.680 Yeah, yeah, I'm I know him from Lost. I don't 0:52:10.719 --> 0:52:13.120 know her at all. I hope she's doing well. And 0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:16.920 you know, your guy was in an episode of Clause. 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:21.480 Do you remember that when Michael Emerson was in It 0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:22.439 was in Clause. 0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:25.280 Yeah, season one, episode nine, just one episode in Brosia 0:52:25.520 --> 0:52:25.799 like this, So. 0:52:25.960 --> 0:52:28.480 I don't remember that, but that is interesting because he's 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.040 married to Carrie Preston aka Elsbeth. 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.719 Oh yeah. Yeah. 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.840 She's someone in the nineties that was always like or 0:52:37.920 --> 0:52:39.480 early like when I was a kid. She was always 0:52:39.480 --> 0:52:42.120 nominated for an award. You know, she was like that 0:52:42.120 --> 0:52:44.560 Fifth Factor spot where you're like, who is this that 0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:47.879 was her always for me as a child. All right, 0:52:47.960 --> 0:52:50.840 So we got we got Michael Emerson, one of the 0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:53.600 best in the biz, and once you see him, you 0:52:53.600 --> 0:52:56.520 know tom foolery is afoot. And then I wrote, in 0:52:56.560 --> 0:52:59.799 the words of Alyssa Edwards, spooky ooky, So. 0:53:02.040 --> 0:53:03.400 I guess that's what I was feeling. 0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:07.160 He's like, l ol, how could I give for my 0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:10.279 wife be involved in an investigation for the police. And 0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:13.279 it's like, you know what you did? So they ask 0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:15.600 if he's a pro at African art. He goes, oh, no, 0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:20.040 that's that's my wife. My specialty is Tibetan sand paintings. 0:53:20.840 --> 0:53:23.759 These these these are rich kids. You don't specialize in 0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:27.440 Tibetan sand paintings if you're if you were raised working class. 0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:30.399 He said he'd had no idea how valuable the doll 0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:34.160 was until the wife told him. He offers to help 0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:36.720 find the doll by going next Saturday to the flea market. 0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:41.680 Identifying the man he feels very strongly about smuggling antiquities. 0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:44.439 He thinks it needs to be stopped and he could 0:53:44.600 --> 0:53:47.279 he will help. He says he's trying to get the 0:53:47.400 --> 0:53:50.880 Elgin marbles back to Greece and he's really proud of it. 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:52.920 And then we cut to Stabler taping a photo of 0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:56.759 Michael Emerson's face onto the precinct board, going Elgin marbles 0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:57.440 my ass. 0:54:00.440 --> 0:54:02.920 He goes, this is the guy slick as they come. 0:54:03.320 --> 0:54:06.040 So basically, he got a boy a toy slave for 0:54:06.080 --> 0:54:08.720 two months, but then his wife was coming home early 0:54:08.800 --> 0:54:11.360 and he had to stash the body, so he staged 0:54:11.400 --> 0:54:14.520 the ritual to throw everyone off the track. But then 0:54:14.520 --> 0:54:16.440 it's like, why keep the doll? Why not get rid 0:54:16.480 --> 0:54:18.359 of it? And Stabler goes a trophy duh. He gets 0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:20.919 his rock soft seeing his wife have it, and Finn goes, 0:54:20.960 --> 0:54:22.799 but it should have come with a beaded pouch. So 0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:24.920 now we have to find the pouch. We get search warrants, 0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:27.640 we start looking. We're at the Shay residence on East 0:54:27.640 --> 0:54:30.880 sixty fourth Street and Mike Doyle's doing some black light action. 0:54:31.440 --> 0:54:33.320 There's tons of bleach in the tub, but no blood 0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:36.720 and Benson's piss. Stabler has nothing either. There's no evidence 0:54:36.760 --> 0:54:39.640 anywhere in the house. Sabler calls the boys and munch 0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:42.520 infin also have nothing now, so munch Invent are back 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:46.080 at the Hudson in the office with the research assistant 0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:49.759 and she goes, hey, whatever you need, I'll help you. 0:54:49.840 --> 0:54:51.960 And Finn goes, well, we're looking for a beaded pouch 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.640 and she goes, oh, why didn't you say so? And 0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:58.360 then she hands over a beaded pouch and goes, doctor 0:54:58.440 --> 0:55:01.640 Shay gave it to me as a present. They go 0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:05.839 fuck so they go fuck z Essa up, so too 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:09.000 like public arrests. In one episode We Are Lucky. So 0:55:09.040 --> 0:55:10.960 he's teaching class. They arrest him in front of the 0:55:11.000 --> 0:55:14.959 whole class and he's stuttering. He's like, sop, I don't 0:55:14.960 --> 0:55:17.600 get it, Alan Shay, you're under arrest for the murder 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:20.520 of a Johnny Haruna and he denies. A lawyer and 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:22.000 he's like, I don't know why the hell I'm here, 0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:26.600 and he is really good. So Sabler is bringing up 0:55:26.640 --> 0:55:29.279 the pouch and how like there Johnny's mom made those 0:55:29.320 --> 0:55:32.000 pouches and like it's identical to the sisters. Like there's 0:55:32.000 --> 0:55:33.520 no way, and he's like, I have no idea who 0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:35.080 a Johnny is. I don't know what you're talking about. 0:55:35.239 --> 0:55:38.319 I bought it from a street vendor and he you know, 0:55:38.520 --> 0:55:42.000 it's like and then he goes, that's street vendor. Is 0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:47.200 the killer and you're letting him go, and he's just 0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.520 a really good actor. He just keeps being like, who's 0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:53.319 a Johnny, which reminds me of oh Mary, what? 0:55:53.800 --> 0:56:00.320 Why? The south of what? Who's Louis pees? 0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:05.480 And his eyes are so wide, But then he's still calm, 0:56:05.560 --> 0:56:10.319 so it's really yeah, he's great. Stabl Is like, so 0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:14.440 all cosmic coincidence, and I liked him saying cosmic. And 0:56:14.480 --> 0:56:16.800 he goes, so, you know, the same pouch and statue 0:56:16.840 --> 0:56:19.400 as a dead child and candles were all left at 0:56:19.400 --> 0:56:22.000 your wife, Like, come on, bro, you're connected to too much. 0:56:22.320 --> 0:56:24.960 This is not a coincidence. And then Stable goes, listen, 0:56:25.080 --> 0:56:27.680 I'm not that bright. You're the educated guy here. Would 0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:30.640 you buy this story? And he says yes, because that's 0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:34.680 what happened. So then they're like, well, why was Bleach everywhere? 0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:37.320 He goes what bleach? I was? I got the house cleans, 0:56:37.400 --> 0:56:39.560 my wife was coming home. I hired a cleaning service. 0:56:39.600 --> 0:56:42.160 What's the big deal? And Stable's like, I'll tell you 0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:44.560 what I think is going on. Your wife surprised you 0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:46.480 by coming home early, and you had to get rid 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:48.520 of the boy in a hurry. But you can't have 0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:51.080 him finger you so you murdered him and covered it 0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:52.359 up with sacrifice? 0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:53.280 You can't. 0:56:53.320 --> 0:56:56.640 So does this mean he's been like buying boys and 0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:59.759 sacrificing them forever and as a serial killer, Or it's 0:56:59.760 --> 0:57:04.279 the first boys killed and has let other slave boys leave? 0:57:05.280 --> 0:57:06.920 Or what what do you think? 0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:10.319 I don't know, great question, like they got this guy 0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:15.440 on his first one, or well maybe no. I think 0:57:15.440 --> 0:57:18.360 it's possible he's gotten other boys and killed them in 0:57:18.440 --> 0:57:20.520 ways where he's been able to fully dispose of the body. 0:57:20.560 --> 0:57:23.040 He did this one really quickly because she was coming 0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:27.160 home right Like, maybe he I don't know, figured out 0:57:27.280 --> 0:57:29.920 they buried these at his like country house. I mean, 0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:32.040 who knows what he did with the other victims. That's 0:57:32.080 --> 0:57:36.800 a good point, you know. Yeah, this is so, Stabler goes. 0:57:36.800 --> 0:57:40.040 You can't hide from me behind your fancy education. I 0:57:40.160 --> 0:57:41.120 smell you. 0:57:41.120 --> 0:57:43.680 You're nothing but a skelle who gets his rock soft 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:44.880 screwing other boys. 0:57:45.960 --> 0:57:47.560 Yes, Stabler, give him hell. 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.400 So Benson is with the wife who's like, no way, 0:57:50.480 --> 0:57:53.560 my husband is not a child's molestor Benson takes out 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:56.080 the two dollars for luck and says, who who do 0:57:56.120 --> 0:57:57.280 you think makes these? 0:57:57.720 --> 0:57:57.920 You know? 0:57:58.080 --> 0:57:59.800 You gave one to your husband. The other belongs to 0:57:59.840 --> 0:58:02.080 the sister of the murdered boy, and she goes, you're wrong, 0:58:02.400 --> 0:58:05.400 there's dozens of those, and then Benson goes, really, you 0:58:05.440 --> 0:58:09.120 really mean that you're an expert? Right, Violin starts strumming, 0:58:09.600 --> 0:58:12.960 it starts hitting her. Benson takes out the pouches and 0:58:13.120 --> 0:58:16.720 the wife goes, oh, so they can carry around their protectors. 0:58:17.200 --> 0:58:20.480 She's getting wet eyes, she's breathing heavy, she's realizing. She 0:58:20.520 --> 0:58:23.080 goes Monday evening, you know, she calls him in London. 0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:25.920 From London and goes, hey, I thought she was in Ghana. 0:58:26.000 --> 0:58:28.880 What the fuck is going on? Didn't she Ghana? 0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:31.840 But maybe she had to do a layover. She was like, Oh, 0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:33.320 I'm on my layover, I'm on my way home. 0:58:34.000 --> 0:58:37.920 Maybe yeah, yeah, I'm so suspicious. 0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:40.800 Monday evening she called him and I'm saying, you know, 0:58:40.840 --> 0:58:42.400 i'll be home early, and she's like, yeah, I thought 0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:45.160 he'd be happy, but he was fucking pissed and I 0:58:45.200 --> 0:58:45.919 didn't get it. 0:58:46.120 --> 0:58:47.040 And he was. 0:58:47.040 --> 0:58:48.439 Just like, I need more time to get the house 0:58:48.520 --> 0:58:51.240 ready and I need more notice. And she did ask like, 0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:54.280 why are you so angry and not happy to see me, 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:58.560 and she said that he apologized right away, covered his tracks, 0:58:58.680 --> 0:59:00.360 was like my bad, my bad, my bad. But it 0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:02.160 stayed with her and she kept thinking, oh, he's having 0:59:02.200 --> 0:59:05.680 an affair, and I interrupted them. She recognizes the photos 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:07.640 Benson shows her of the candles and said that she 0:59:07.720 --> 0:59:10.240 asked him what was up and that the candle was missing, 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:11.920 and he said he used it in one of the bulls. 0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:15.040 So then Benson asked for details about the bulls and 0:59:15.240 --> 0:59:17.440 the wife's had enough. She's like, I can't, I can't, 0:59:17.680 --> 0:59:19.880 And Benson is like, Maggie, you better help us before 0:59:19.920 --> 0:59:23.320 another child might die. And she's crying and swallowing hard 0:59:23.360 --> 0:59:25.720 and she's like, yeah, you know she I got called 0:59:25.720 --> 0:59:28.480 from London. He asked work, He's to our storage was 0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:31.200 where I keep all my inventory and the room is 0:59:31.240 --> 0:59:32.920 in the basement under the gallery. 0:59:33.440 --> 0:59:34.960 But she seems like a dumb bitch. 0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:42.120 Yeah, why would he need the key to your inventory? Right? 0:59:42.440 --> 0:59:43.880 Why is he kissed her? Coming home? 0:59:44.000 --> 0:59:44.080 Like? 0:59:45.040 --> 0:59:46.960 Why are you still like he could have never It's 0:59:47.000 --> 0:59:48.360 like he's clearly a child molester. 0:59:48.400 --> 0:59:52.160 Look at his eyes and there's blood down in the room, 0:59:52.280 --> 0:59:54.520 a trail of blood that leads to a crate and 0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:57.560 Finn and Munch opened the crate and Finn says, we 0:59:57.640 --> 1:00:00.480 got to get a medical examiner in here. So back 1:00:00.520 --> 1:00:03.360 at the precinct, the villain's in the interrogation room and 1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:06.240 Craigan's like, you're going to death row, bitch, And Sabler 1:00:06.280 --> 1:00:10.080 walks in with a Moroccan tilebox that he bought from 1:00:10.080 --> 1:00:13.720 a family in Marrakesh and he's like, oh, I was 1:00:13.760 --> 1:00:16.760 trying to ship it to Tibet, so whatever. He's looking 1:00:16.760 --> 1:00:19.760 at it with his bespectacled ass, and then Novak's like, 1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:22.600 cooperate and you go to jail for life or don't 1:00:22.640 --> 1:00:25.080 and you die by lethal injection. And he goes, I'm 1:00:25.080 --> 1:00:27.760 supposed to be intimidated. New York hasn't killed a person 1:00:27.800 --> 1:00:30.960 in forty years. And Novak's like, you're right, you're extra 1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:32.960 scum and I'm sure a jury would think that you 1:00:33.040 --> 1:00:37.160 suck so bad you're dead. Novak's like, hey, Professor Shay Gamble, 1:00:37.320 --> 1:00:39.880 it's your life. And then Craigan goes towards the tile 1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:41.880 box and he's like, let's see what's inside the box. 1:00:41.920 --> 1:00:45.120 And finally Michael Emerson goes no, no, no, and then goes, 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:47.880 I'll cooperate and they ask him, why did you do this? 1:00:48.240 --> 1:00:50.280 He goes, well, I couldn't risk body parts flowing in 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:55.200 the East River. You're right, he's murdered before. Yeah, he 1:00:55.280 --> 1:00:57.440 spills the beans on the trafficker he worked with. His 1:00:57.520 --> 1:01:01.160 name is Bosa and he's a facilitat and he greases 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:04.320 the wheels for international shipping. And he tries to give 1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:06.880 the number and Novak says, no, the number isn't good, 1:01:07.480 --> 1:01:09.480 not enough, And he goes, no, the number is good. 1:01:09.480 --> 1:01:11.280 I talked to him last week. So were you trying 1:01:11.320 --> 1:01:13.080 to get another boy? You sick? Fuck? 1:01:13.720 --> 1:01:16.480 So a new shipment is coming in tomorrow and it's 1:01:16.520 --> 1:01:17.680 book report time. 1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:22.240 So you know why does that mean? Okay, so wait, 1:01:22.280 --> 1:01:24.000 can I just say one thing really quick. 1:01:24.520 --> 1:01:27.920 I think I always thought that in that crate was 1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:32.439 like another boy, and now I'm realizing it's his limbs, right, 1:01:32.920 --> 1:01:33.240 m hm. 1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:35.080 I'm dumb in my mind. 1:01:35.120 --> 1:01:36.760 I was always like, oh, it was like another boy 1:01:36.800 --> 1:01:39.520 that he was like, I'm so dumb. Why did I 1:01:39.560 --> 1:01:40.240 always think that? 1:01:40.400 --> 1:01:42.760 But yeah, you're not dumb. It's a lot of body 1:01:42.760 --> 1:01:43.680 parts to keep trapped. 1:01:43.800 --> 1:01:44.960 No, I was like, I know. 1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:46.960 I was like, oh, this is like where he kept 1:01:47.000 --> 1:01:49.120 them like tied up, and this is like another boy 1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:51.000 and for some reason that's always been in my head 1:01:51.000 --> 1:01:52.520 that it's another boy, but it's the limbs. 1:01:52.920 --> 1:01:55.240 Wow wow learning. 1:01:55.080 --> 1:01:57.760 Okay, book report, Well what does that even mean? 1:01:57.840 --> 1:01:58.280 So whatever? 1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:02.280 This guy both Martin Bosa I wrote Mark, but it 1:02:02.360 --> 1:02:07.160 is Martin and he's a Nigerian citizen in the US 1:02:07.240 --> 1:02:10.480 on a work visa. Interpol knows about him. He's all 1:02:10.520 --> 1:02:12.680 about slaves and drugs and we need a plan to 1:02:12.680 --> 1:02:15.640 get him. And Munch is like, Okay, this guy's a psychopath, 1:02:15.720 --> 1:02:17.800 like he left a bunch of kids to starve to death. 1:02:17.840 --> 1:02:19.520 I'm sure he knows the heat is on him. Can 1:02:19.560 --> 1:02:20.439 we even get to him? 1:02:21.040 --> 1:02:22.320 And they're like, well, the only way to get to 1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:25.760 him is to try to buy a child. So Craigan's like, well, 1:02:25.800 --> 1:02:27.840 Benson is sta able of you go. The guy's gonna 1:02:27.840 --> 1:02:30.240 smell cop on you. So they're like, well, then let's 1:02:30.240 --> 1:02:33.840 send someone from his own country. Great thinking, Benson. So 1:02:33.880 --> 1:02:36.000 they send the consolate woman and Finn to meet the 1:02:36.040 --> 1:02:38.480 trafficker and they're doing a chat about how to buy 1:02:38.520 --> 1:02:41.120 a person and this is really really fucked. So then 1:02:41.200 --> 1:02:45.400 Finn and his wife they meet up with this guy 1:02:46.040 --> 1:02:49.560 Martin Bussa Bosa and he's scary as fuck, and the 1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:52.680 Erica Alexander is like, yeah, I just want someone who 1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:55.480 can cook and clean and keep house. I don't know 1:02:55.520 --> 1:02:57.720 what keep house means, but it seems like let the 1:02:57.800 --> 1:03:00.080 husband rape you, she said. But I don't know. It 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:02.320 could just mean keep it tidy. But why would you say, cook, 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:03.400 clean and keep house. 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:09.520 Yeah, I think it kind of means like everything in between. 1:03:09.480 --> 1:03:14.080 But yeah, dry cleaning or something. Yeah, maybe laundry. 1:03:14.680 --> 1:03:19.920 She says she can't stand American servants and asks for 1:03:19.920 --> 1:03:23.720 an obedience servant, and obedience is important above all else. 1:03:23.800 --> 1:03:26.760 She's good And when the trafficker asks what business he's in, 1:03:26.840 --> 1:03:28.080 he goes my business. 1:03:29.040 --> 1:03:30.120 So then this dude. 1:03:29.880 --> 1:03:31.920 Offers them straight up a five or six year old 1:03:32.000 --> 1:03:34.640 child so they can train her to their liking. Finn 1:03:34.640 --> 1:03:37.280 goes deal, and the guy goes, oh, make arrangements, but 1:03:37.680 --> 1:03:40.920 like he was suspicious because the guy was. 1:03:40.840 --> 1:03:42.000 Like, how long have you been married? 1:03:42.160 --> 1:03:45.280 And that one little hesitation of like Finn grabbing her 1:03:45.400 --> 1:03:47.800 arm and speaking like the dude new, the dude new 1:03:47.840 --> 1:03:50.960 he's a crimin. Yeah, so and Finn go knows that 1:03:51.000 --> 1:03:52.760 he's been blown. So the guy gets up and then 1:03:52.840 --> 1:03:54.520 like they all follow him out of the diner. There's 1:03:54.520 --> 1:03:57.240 a rundown and Finn just starts beating the shit out 1:03:57.280 --> 1:03:59.480 of this motherfucker and screaming. 1:03:59.040 --> 1:04:01.880 They're kids, you sick son of a bitch. He's bloody 1:04:01.880 --> 1:04:03.760 on the ground. They you know, keeps punching. 1:04:03.800 --> 1:04:05.680 Stabler has to run out of the car and pull 1:04:05.720 --> 1:04:07.560 them off, and they arrest him for kidnapping on the 1:04:07.600 --> 1:04:10.240 first degree. We're in cement room bars and he tries 1:04:10.280 --> 1:04:12.560 to say that his bargaining chip is his bloody face 1:04:12.600 --> 1:04:14.840 and that the cops beat up a Nigerian man and 1:04:14.880 --> 1:04:17.800 he doesn't think the police commissioner wants that kind of publicity. 1:04:18.160 --> 1:04:20.800 And then the consolate woman in Finn arrive and he goes, 1:04:20.840 --> 1:04:23.160 I'm not afraid of you, and Finn goes, not me her, 1:04:23.200 --> 1:04:26.160 and he goes why what can a woman do? And 1:04:26.200 --> 1:04:28.320 she goes, de porch you, And then the worry hits 1:04:28.360 --> 1:04:30.600 his face because of the accent. That doesn't sound like mine. 1:04:30.640 --> 1:04:33.280 I think I did like a like a British guy 1:04:33.480 --> 1:04:38.560 just and so she's like, she goes, well, your passport's 1:04:38.600 --> 1:04:41.959 being revoked and I'm sending you to Nigeria where you'll 1:04:41.960 --> 1:04:44.160 be in jail, and Finn goes they do fire squads 1:04:44.160 --> 1:04:46.960 there right, tie people up to polls, shoot their ankles. 1:04:47.160 --> 1:04:49.800 You're gonna get death. And this makes his eyeballs move 1:04:50.040 --> 1:04:53.640 great eyeball acting. He's worried and he's like, oh no, 1:04:53.880 --> 1:04:56.120 so let's gets him to reveal that another shipment of 1:04:56.160 --> 1:04:59.120 kids is arriving that night. But this guy is he 1:04:59.560 --> 1:05:01.600 being up the shipment of kids so he can serve 1:05:01.600 --> 1:05:04.720 his jail time in America instead of Nigeria. I wonder, 1:05:05.160 --> 1:05:07.360 I wonder if that's the deal, because I don't want 1:05:07.360 --> 1:05:09.439 my ankles shot, because that's what Finn said. They start 1:05:09.480 --> 1:05:11.000 from the bottom and shoot you all the way up, 1:05:11.000 --> 1:05:11.920 so you're just bleeding. 1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:15.280 Oh is that a detail I shouldn't have remembered. 1:05:15.560 --> 1:05:18.160 No, I just now that i'm remember now, Yes, I 1:05:18.560 --> 1:05:20.600 guess like the ankle shooting, I was like out and 1:05:20.640 --> 1:05:22.560 now I'm like, oh no, then they'll just move up 1:05:22.640 --> 1:05:25.440 your whole body so your brain is like alive for 1:05:25.480 --> 1:05:25.880 all of it. 1:05:25.920 --> 1:05:27.280 Fuck yeah, I never thought about that. 1:05:27.840 --> 1:05:31.720 Yeah, well, when you research and watch at two three 1:05:31.720 --> 1:05:37.080 in the morning, something that sticks with you, so so 1:05:37.160 --> 1:05:40.440 then uh, yeah, whenever we're both working on the dock 1:05:40.520 --> 1:05:41.160 at the same time. 1:05:41.160 --> 1:05:43.880 I'm always like, well, care is doing it in an appropriate. 1:05:43.360 --> 1:05:47.160 Hour, and I am three hours ahead. Yes, I am 1:05:47.200 --> 1:05:51.200 in the dock as well. So this gets him to reveal, 1:05:51.440 --> 1:05:53.400 you know, when you're just on such a fun lineup 1:05:54.000 --> 1:05:56.600 and that's yeah, like I want to go home. I 1:05:56.600 --> 1:05:58.960 had a meat brick, I had a sid, I had 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:01.720 a Jabuki, Drew Anderson, my friend Caitlyn. 1:06:02.240 --> 1:06:08.040 That's so fun. It was good people. So the cops 1:06:08.040 --> 1:06:10.480 stop the truck. So many kids in the truck. It's 1:06:10.560 --> 1:06:10.960 very sad. 1:06:11.000 --> 1:06:13.520 They're selling kids the lowest of the low and Finn 1:06:13.560 --> 1:06:16.680 is so fucked up about this case and he's just 1:06:16.720 --> 1:06:19.280 having a hard time. But hopefully the kids are going 1:06:19.360 --> 1:06:22.360 to have a better life. And Diane Neal when we 1:06:22.400 --> 1:06:25.120 interviewed her, said that this was her most haunting episode 1:06:25.160 --> 1:06:27.800 when we asked, and that is Dick Wolf Baby. 1:06:28.280 --> 1:06:30.760 This last shot of like them opening it up with 1:06:30.840 --> 1:06:32.240 like all the kids in the truck. 1:06:32.280 --> 1:06:33.800 I would say it's like a top. 1:06:33.800 --> 1:06:38.080 Iconic SVU image where you're like fuck, like, you know, 1:06:38.960 --> 1:06:41.400 because I think the idea of trafficking is like very 1:06:42.400 --> 1:06:45.000 abstract to a lot of people, and this is like 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:49.320 look at this, They're just being like trafficked, like like, uh, 1:06:49.920 --> 1:06:52.800 you know what am I trying to say any like 1:06:52.800 --> 1:06:53.840 like furniture, you know. 1:06:54.720 --> 1:06:57.240 Anyway, I don't want to hear about the crime. Let's 1:06:57.320 --> 1:06:59.440 change our owl structure of our podcast. 1:07:00.240 --> 1:07:05.680 I should also mention that in Evil, Michael Emerson is 1:07:05.720 --> 1:07:08.360 in a relationship for part of the series with Christine 1:07:08.400 --> 1:07:12.040 Latti aka So now I'm blanking Sonya Paxton. 1:07:12.200 --> 1:07:14.600 Yes, oh my god, girl, So you remember when, okay, 1:07:14.640 --> 1:07:16.160 you had to pick up my meds for me once 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:19.960 when I got COVID and had my earshit, and you 1:07:20.080 --> 1:07:22.600 changed the address because like obviously you wouldn't have used 1:07:22.600 --> 1:07:25.400 my Skoki address, so like it's been my LA address 1:07:25.440 --> 1:07:28.400 forever in Chicago. I forgot my meds, so I had 1:07:28.440 --> 1:07:31.240 to like reorder meds and they asked for my address, 1:07:32.520 --> 1:07:33.240 no recollection. 1:07:33.560 --> 1:07:35.800 Oh my god, you could remember where you used to live? Yeah? 1:07:35.960 --> 1:07:38.680 Absolutely not. Could not remember that app. Like I was 1:07:38.680 --> 1:07:40.680 like looking up in Google, Matt, and then finally went 1:07:40.680 --> 1:07:42.520 to the email and found my email chain with the 1:07:42.560 --> 1:07:45.880 moving company, and that's how I found my LA address. 1:07:45.920 --> 1:07:49.280 And it's like you only moved like six months ago. 1:07:51.080 --> 1:07:55.040 What the fuck? That's crazy? But yeah, that happens. You 1:07:55.400 --> 1:07:57.320 just blank out? Why did I blank out on Sonia Packston. 1:07:57.520 --> 1:08:00.320 She's my favorite evil ada with a heart of gold 1:08:00.360 --> 1:08:01.480 that I think has a comeback. 1:08:02.040 --> 1:08:03.840 Just no, one just want to drink with her. You 1:08:03.920 --> 1:08:05.640 just want to drink with her. I know, I know, 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:05.920 you know. 1:08:06.040 --> 1:08:09.000 I just want to have a little drinks with Sonya Paxton. 1:08:09.440 --> 1:08:20.200 All right, let's get to our crimes. Okay, this crime 1:08:20.800 --> 1:08:23.160 is there's two crimes. But the first one, the major 1:08:23.160 --> 1:08:27.160 one that this is based on, is the Adam murder case. 1:08:27.200 --> 1:08:30.240 And we love to talk about cases that were overshadowed 1:08:30.240 --> 1:08:32.720 by nine to eleven, and this is one of them. 1:08:32.960 --> 1:08:34.599 This happened. That's something we love. 1:08:35.080 --> 1:08:38.960 Yeah, Like, I think that's so interesting that like wasn't 1:08:39.000 --> 1:08:43.160 Shark Eyes guy like he was like a horrible serial 1:08:43.240 --> 1:08:46.240 killer and then like or like a horrible abuser. And 1:08:46.280 --> 1:08:48.320 then like we just oops, we were dealing with nine 1:08:48.320 --> 1:08:51.160 to eleven. We didn't notice like and yeah. 1:08:51.000 --> 1:08:52.920 A girl in the lake that was another one, but 1:08:52.920 --> 1:08:54.120 that was in an episode. 1:08:54.160 --> 1:08:55.120 That was an episode. 1:08:55.200 --> 1:08:58.160 Yeah, Scott Peterson, weren't we talking about like Lacy Peterson 1:08:58.160 --> 1:08:59.840 when she originally no. 1:09:00.439 --> 1:09:02.559 That that was the nine to eleven of the time 1:09:03.120 --> 1:09:04.240 because of that case. 1:09:04.439 --> 1:09:06.160 The case. 1:09:07.120 --> 1:09:10.400 Yeah, all these other cases didn't get attention because yes. 1:09:10.400 --> 1:09:12.080 But there are some other cases I feel like where 1:09:12.080 --> 1:09:14.599 it's like, yeah, nobody's really paying attention because like this massive, 1:09:14.680 --> 1:09:18.160 like geopolitical, huge thing has happened in the United States. 1:09:18.240 --> 1:09:21.040 I know, the imagine getting kidnapped, dragged into a basement 1:09:21.120 --> 1:09:23.639 and no one actually even notices because of nine to eleven. 1:09:24.000 --> 1:09:27.519 I know, the rebel, I know, but this happened in London, 1:09:27.600 --> 1:09:28.280 not the US. 1:09:28.439 --> 1:09:31.880 But on September twenty first, ten days after nine to eleven, 1:09:31.880 --> 1:09:35.880 two thousand and one, the torso of an unidentified male 1:09:36.000 --> 1:09:39.280 child ages four to eight years old, was found in 1:09:39.320 --> 1:09:44.000 the Thames near Tower Bridge, and he was wearing orange shorts. 1:09:44.920 --> 1:09:49.759 The police called the unidentified victim Adam, and forensic evidence, 1:09:49.920 --> 1:09:53.160 including mineral samples, much like what they did in this episode, 1:09:53.240 --> 1:09:55.600 linked to the boy to a rural area of southwestern 1:09:55.680 --> 1:09:59.439 Nigeria between ben and City, the same city that A 1:09:59.520 --> 1:10:03.759 Johnny is from. An Ebadon, which is a one hundred 1:10:03.800 --> 1:10:07.040 by fifty mile swath of land and ben And City 1:10:07.160 --> 1:10:11.640 is apparently known as the birthplace of voodoo. Authorities believed 1:10:11.760 --> 1:10:16.240 that have you seen a Skeleton Key. No, do you 1:10:16.280 --> 1:10:19.000 know what I'm talking about with Kay Hudson. Yes, I've 1:10:19.000 --> 1:10:20.479 heard of it, but I haven't seen it. 1:10:20.479 --> 1:10:22.479 It's one of my faves. Oh, I should give it 1:10:22.520 --> 1:10:24.439 a walk. What are your thoughts on it? Casey? 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:26.240 Do you think about it when you hear a voodoo? 1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:29.360 I haven't seen that movie in a really long time, 1:10:29.680 --> 1:10:32.280 but it's I remember it being kind of silly, but 1:10:32.320 --> 1:10:36.080 I do think about it sometimes with I guess we 1:10:36.160 --> 1:10:41.200 have different views on that movie. I was not silly. 1:10:41.600 --> 1:10:41.960 I was. 1:10:43.680 --> 1:10:47.439 Edge of my seat, terrified. Only think of Skeleton Key, 1:10:47.880 --> 1:10:51.719 the word of voodoo. Okay, oh yeah, and I opened 1:10:51.720 --> 1:10:54.200 and oh that's in the city. Okay, this is really 1:10:54.320 --> 1:10:56.360 like okay, interesting, it's pretty ripped. 1:10:56.400 --> 1:10:57.080 I will say. 1:10:57.560 --> 1:11:02.120 Authorities believed that Adam had originally been trafficked to the 1:11:02.240 --> 1:11:05.920 UK for a mooti or mut m uti. 1:11:06.040 --> 1:11:07.080 I don't know if I'm saying it wrong. 1:11:07.600 --> 1:11:11.040 A mouti ritual sacrifice which is performed by a witch 1:11:11.080 --> 1:11:14.000 doctor who uses the child's body parts to make medicinal 1:11:14.040 --> 1:11:19.120 potions called muti. According to the National Institute of Health, quote, 1:11:19.240 --> 1:11:22.160 ritual or muti murders are a form of human sacrifice 1:11:22.200 --> 1:11:25.280 practiced by some African tribes. The murder is carried out 1:11:25.320 --> 1:11:27.639 after body parts are removed while the victim is still 1:11:27.680 --> 1:11:32.000 alive end quote. So the post mortem on the Torso 1:11:32.160 --> 1:11:35.160 revealed that Adam had been poisoned and his throat had 1:11:35.160 --> 1:11:37.400 been slit to drain the blood, and his head and 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:42.000 limbs had been expertly removed. So it's literally this episode 1:11:42.160 --> 1:11:45.680 more forensics like his stomach contents indicated that Adam had 1:11:45.720 --> 1:11:47.640 only been in the UK for a few days or 1:11:47.640 --> 1:11:50.400 weeks before his death, much like the isotopes. 1:11:49.800 --> 1:11:50.839 That Melinda was running. 1:11:51.920 --> 1:11:54.800 Police in the UK, we're not able to find a 1:11:54.800 --> 1:11:58.120 match for Adam in missing children's databases in the UK 1:11:58.280 --> 1:12:01.600 or around Europe. They asked for the public's help, but 1:12:01.800 --> 1:12:03.760 people had their eyes on nine to eleven, Like it 1:12:03.880 --> 1:12:06.040 just wasn't getting a lot of interest. It wasn't getting 1:12:06.400 --> 1:12:09.200 people were not like calling in a lot of tips, 1:12:09.200 --> 1:12:12.160 It wasn't leading anywhere. Eventually, interest in the case in 1:12:12.240 --> 1:12:15.479 the UK did increase, like rewards were offered, but it 1:12:15.479 --> 1:12:18.240 didn't get that much publicity in Nigeria, which is where 1:12:18.240 --> 1:12:20.320 they needed it to get publicity because then hopefully somebody 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:21.559 could have identified him. 1:12:22.080 --> 1:12:23.479 So when they had nothing. 1:12:23.520 --> 1:12:25.960 By two thousand and two, officials from London went to 1:12:26.000 --> 1:12:29.000 South Africa and they actually met with Nelson Mandela, who 1:12:29.080 --> 1:12:32.519 made a public appeal for information about Adam. This was 1:12:32.560 --> 1:12:36.959 shown all over Africa, translated into many different languages, including Yoruba, 1:12:37.040 --> 1:12:39.440 which is the local language in that area of Nigeria 1:12:39.760 --> 1:12:42.840 where they thought Adam was from. They consulted detectives and 1:12:43.640 --> 1:12:46.760 Muti experts in South Africa and some thought that the 1:12:46.760 --> 1:12:49.960 orange shorts suggested that Adam was related to his killers 1:12:50.000 --> 1:12:54.479 because in Muti red is a color of resurrection, so 1:12:54.560 --> 1:12:57.000 at least they thought maybe one of at least one 1:12:57.000 --> 1:12:59.000 of the killers was maybe trying to make his soul rise. 1:12:59.040 --> 1:13:01.920 Again, red is not orange, but maybe it's close enough. 1:13:02.000 --> 1:13:02.400 I don't know. 1:13:02.800 --> 1:13:05.360 They also went to Nigeria and launched a campaign to 1:13:05.360 --> 1:13:08.120 track down Adam's parents, going to elementary schools, checking miss 1:13:08.160 --> 1:13:10.839 some person reports for children in the area, but nothing. 1:13:11.479 --> 1:13:15.320 In two thousand and two, social workers went to investigate 1:13:15.360 --> 1:13:19.800 a woman named Joyce Ocia Guede and she was a 1:13:20.120 --> 1:13:22.120 mother of two, because they were worried about the safety 1:13:22.120 --> 1:13:24.479 of the children. And then this woman, Joyce starts talking 1:13:24.520 --> 1:13:26.560 about ritual killings and all this, and a couple of 1:13:26.600 --> 1:13:29.519 the investigators are like, oh, bells are ringing, let's call 1:13:29.640 --> 1:13:32.360 Let's like, this reminds us of this Adam case. So 1:13:32.400 --> 1:13:35.559 they call in Detective Nick Chalmers, who had been working 1:13:35.680 --> 1:13:38.920 on the Adam case, and he searched Joyce's home and 1:13:39.000 --> 1:13:43.639 found clothes with the same kids and Company label as 1:13:43.880 --> 1:13:47.680 in the same sizes as adams shorts, So kind of 1:13:47.720 --> 1:13:51.799 circumstantial but interesting. They arrested Joyce, but they were unable 1:13:51.840 --> 1:13:54.760 to charge her because she kept changing her story. They 1:13:54.800 --> 1:13:56.920 thought she had mental health issues and they had like 1:13:57.120 --> 1:14:02.160 no evidence against her. So ten years go by, in 1:14:02.240 --> 1:14:05.439 March of twenty eleven, Joyce is back in the mix, 1:14:05.560 --> 1:14:08.080 telling authorities that Adam could be a six year old 1:14:08.360 --> 1:14:13.080 boy named Ike palmwasa and she showed them a photo 1:14:13.120 --> 1:14:14.640 of this boy and she claimed that she used to 1:14:14.720 --> 1:14:17.679 take care of this child back in Germany and after 1:14:17.720 --> 1:14:21.920 his parents were deported back to Nigeria, she took care 1:14:21.960 --> 1:14:23.519 of this kid, and that she told the press, she 1:14:23.560 --> 1:14:25.960 handed this kid off to a man named Bahwa who 1:14:26.040 --> 1:14:28.360 took the child to London. Kind of sounds like Bosa, 1:14:28.400 --> 1:14:30.040 I mean, like it's like they're really taking a lot 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:33.919 from this episode. In February twenty thirteen, she also contacted 1:14:33.920 --> 1:14:36.680 the BBC to say she wanted to spill everything she 1:14:36.760 --> 1:14:39.680 knew about the case. She said, oh, actually Adam's real 1:14:39.760 --> 1:14:44.400 name is Patrick Erhabor and not ike pamwasa and admitted 1:14:44.400 --> 1:14:46.639 that she had confused the photo that she showed them 1:14:46.680 --> 1:14:49.000 that this boy was still alive, and she got confused. 1:14:49.280 --> 1:14:49.599 She said. 1:14:49.600 --> 1:14:51.719 The man who took him to London, who she called Bawa, 1:14:51.840 --> 1:14:56.040 was also named Kingsley Ojo, a bogus asylum seeker who 1:14:56.080 --> 1:14:58.800 first came to London in nineteen ninety seven. Ojo, who 1:14:58.920 --> 1:15:02.240 used many different ideas, was arrested in London in two 1:15:02.280 --> 1:15:05.559 thousand and two by officers investigating the Adam case, and 1:15:05.680 --> 1:15:08.040 in his home they'd found a plastic bag, a mixture 1:15:08.080 --> 1:15:11.439 of bone, sand, and flecks of gold, very similar to 1:15:11.479 --> 1:15:14.439 what they'd found in Adam's stomach. They also found a 1:15:14.760 --> 1:15:17.680 video marked Rituals, which showed a movie, but in the 1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:18.840 movie an actor. 1:15:18.600 --> 1:15:20.360 Gets its head cut off. His head cut. 1:15:20.160 --> 1:15:22.839 Off, and Ojo said that the movie and the mixture 1:15:22.840 --> 1:15:24.960 belong to other people in the house and detectives could 1:15:24.960 --> 1:15:28.080 never like definitively link him to Adam's case, but in 1:15:28.080 --> 1:15:29.800 two thousand and four he did get four and a 1:15:29.840 --> 1:15:33.920 half years for smuggling people. So he was much like 1:15:33.920 --> 1:15:36.960 the character in the episode, not directly responsible for the 1:15:37.040 --> 1:15:41.240 murder or anything, but was a child trafficker. He contacted 1:15:41.400 --> 1:15:44.240 officers during his sentence much like this guy was trying 1:15:44.240 --> 1:15:46.599 to like give out info to like save his own skin. 1:15:47.120 --> 1:15:50.960 He contacted officers during his jail time and sentencing to 1:15:51.000 --> 1:15:53.880 offer help with the Adam case, but they deported him 1:15:53.880 --> 1:15:56.280 to Nigeria. They didn't believe he really knew anything. But 1:15:56.320 --> 1:15:59.599 then another article I read said that he did help 1:15:59.640 --> 1:16:01.000 them for a couple of years, but I think that 1:16:01.000 --> 1:16:03.679 they did he eventually didn't have anything, Like he gave 1:16:03.720 --> 1:16:05.920 them information about a woman that was ended up being 1:16:05.920 --> 1:16:07.840 a dead end, and he didn't really have anything. I 1:16:07.880 --> 1:16:09.680 think he was trying to save his own skin and 1:16:09.720 --> 1:16:12.920 not get deported. But Nick Chalmers, who was this at 1:16:12.920 --> 1:16:15.040 this point, retired. He said he'd always had an eye 1:16:15.120 --> 1:16:17.599 on Ojo and knew that, but also knew that Joyce 1:16:17.640 --> 1:16:20.800 had mental health problems and was on medication. So even 1:16:20.840 --> 1:16:24.920 this article that I found says the headline is Torso 1:16:25.040 --> 1:16:29.160 case boy quote unquote identified like, so the word identified 1:16:29.280 --> 1:16:31.639 is in quotes because it's like they're kind of putting 1:16:31.640 --> 1:16:33.960 out an article releasing what this woman Joyce is saying, 1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:37.479 but it's not definitive. And he has never to this 1:16:37.600 --> 1:16:40.320 day been successfully identified, and no one has been charged 1:16:40.320 --> 1:16:44.080 with his murder. But yeah, Ojo was arrested in with 1:16:44.240 --> 1:16:47.240 twenty others in a series of immigration linked raids across 1:16:47.439 --> 1:16:51.160 London in July twenty thirteen as well. So he's done 1:16:51.320 --> 1:16:53.960 multiple stints in jail time and is not stopping his 1:16:54.720 --> 1:16:59.439 people smuggling. And he's also from ben In City and yeah, 1:16:59.800 --> 1:17:02.720 that's that's right. It's very sad. They still don't know 1:17:02.920 --> 1:17:07.800 who this kid is. Another case. Originally this was only 1:17:07.840 --> 1:17:10.400 ever listed as being about the Adam case, but since 1:17:10.400 --> 1:17:12.679 it's been linked to another case and it seems pretty 1:17:12.840 --> 1:17:14.840 similar but in different ways. 1:17:15.280 --> 1:17:18.719 The Ifioma and Prosper udag Wu case. 1:17:19.400 --> 1:17:22.559 So Ifioma is a New York City child welfare worker 1:17:22.760 --> 1:17:25.600 and Prosper is her husband, and they are arrested in 1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:28.240 nineteen ninety nine on charges that they forced a Nigerian 1:17:28.280 --> 1:17:31.519 girl to be their servant for nine years, beating her 1:17:31.640 --> 1:17:35.600 to the point that she was scarred. Prosper Amica udag 1:17:35.680 --> 1:17:39.720 Wu and Ifioma Ezianu udag Wu, who lived in Elmsford, 1:17:39.720 --> 1:17:43.080 New York, were charged in a ten count complaint in 1:17:43.200 --> 1:17:46.639 New York Federal Court. They were accused of conspiracy, smuggling 1:17:46.680 --> 1:17:50.760 illegal immigrants, involuntary servitude, witness tampering, and making balse statements. 1:17:51.280 --> 1:17:56.800 Prosecutors said that if Yoma is employed by New York's CPS, 1:17:57.160 --> 1:18:00.559 where her duties include investigating child abuse case and that 1:18:00.640 --> 1:18:02.920 she'd been employed there since nineteen eighty eight, but she 1:18:02.960 --> 1:18:06.479 was suspended without pay when she got arrested. So yeah, 1:18:06.520 --> 1:18:11.200 her job involves investigating child abuse, like placing kids in 1:18:11.240 --> 1:18:13.800 foster homes, so it's really wild that she's like mistreating 1:18:13.800 --> 1:18:16.720 a child in her own home. Jerry Tritz, who is 1:18:16.840 --> 1:18:21.360 prosperous attorney, said his client believed that the girl was 1:18:21.400 --> 1:18:25.040 his daughter from a previous relationship. They are claiming that 1:18:25.439 --> 1:18:28.599 her family, the young girl's family tricked him being like, oh, 1:18:28.600 --> 1:18:30.760 this is your daughter from another relationship, like you need 1:18:30.800 --> 1:18:33.600 to take her in, And he denied that she was 1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:36.679 held prisoner and that said she graduated from public high 1:18:36.680 --> 1:18:38.599 school and was living with them and is now going 1:18:38.600 --> 1:18:41.400 to college and job's faery and they're giving her financial help. 1:18:41.720 --> 1:18:44.439 But in nineteen eighty nine, the girl was thirteen, the 1:18:44.479 --> 1:18:46.880 couple promised her a better life in the USA, but 1:18:47.040 --> 1:18:49.439 then once she was in New York, the couple, who 1:18:49.439 --> 1:18:51.720 had four kids, made her work without pay as a 1:18:51.760 --> 1:18:53.639 maid and a babysitter in their home in the Bronx. 1:18:54.680 --> 1:18:57.360 She was told she would be responsible for all household chores, 1:18:57.439 --> 1:19:01.400 including cooking, cleaning, yard work, laundry, caring for and feeding 1:19:01.439 --> 1:19:03.760 the children, and that she would not be paid. She 1:19:03.800 --> 1:19:05.760 couldn't speak to anyone, she was not allowed to use 1:19:05.760 --> 1:19:08.720 the phone. They took away her idea in documents. They 1:19:08.760 --> 1:19:12.040 threatened to harm her family, and they beat her very severely, 1:19:12.200 --> 1:19:14.160 and she had a lot of marks from being beaten. 1:19:14.240 --> 1:19:17.919 When she was eventually went to authorities. When she disobeyed 1:19:17.960 --> 1:19:20.519 rules or made mistakes, she was beaten by hand or 1:19:20.560 --> 1:19:23.400 with belts, slippers, brooms made of sticks like There's. 1:19:23.200 --> 1:19:26.000 A lot of horrible details. 1:19:26.120 --> 1:19:29.840 The Adaguos were charged with immigration fraud and involuntary servitude. 1:19:30.400 --> 1:19:32.120 He could face up to thirty five years. She could 1:19:32.120 --> 1:19:33.680 face up to twenty five. I don't know why there's 1:19:33.680 --> 1:19:36.879 a difference in their sentencings. At the arraignment. The defense 1:19:37.120 --> 1:19:40.280 their lawyers tried to attack this girl's credibility, saying she 1:19:40.439 --> 1:19:42.479 was treated well and that like, yeah, this guy was 1:19:42.520 --> 1:19:45.280 tricked into believing that this was her daughter. The family 1:19:45.360 --> 1:19:48.800 was like, we let the girl attend Evander Child's High 1:19:48.800 --> 1:19:50.960 School in the Bronx and Mercy College, and we even 1:19:51.000 --> 1:19:53.280 took her with us to Disneyland. It's like, yeah, you 1:19:53.320 --> 1:19:54.800 could like have a slave. I guess you would take 1:19:54.800 --> 1:19:57.120 your slave to Disneyland once a year. That doesn't like 1:19:57.240 --> 1:20:01.040 kind of absorb everything that's happened. But there was an 1:20:01.040 --> 1:20:04.800 assistant US attorney, Jennifer Moore, who was like, yeah, the 1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:06.839 girl only was allowed to go to school. Once neighbors 1:20:06.840 --> 1:20:08.800 started being like, what's up. You have four kids that 1:20:08.800 --> 1:20:11.040 are living a normal life, what's up with this girl? 1:20:11.400 --> 1:20:15.479 But the dogs are both naturalized Americans and were accused 1:20:15.520 --> 1:20:19.000 of making fraudulent statements to obtain citizenship, So there's a 1:20:19.040 --> 1:20:21.360 separate crime with this family. They had brought a ten 1:20:21.439 --> 1:20:24.080 year old girl to their home from Nigeria during the eighties, 1:20:24.360 --> 1:20:26.880 and that girl said that she was sexually assaulted by 1:20:27.640 --> 1:20:33.040 the mother's brother, Gregory Izianu, so she was sent back 1:20:33.040 --> 1:20:35.240 to Nigeria after she set the basement of their house 1:20:35.280 --> 1:20:39.600 on fire. A second girl, twelve, arrived in Nigeria and 1:20:39.640 --> 1:20:41.440 moved in with mister Izianu. 1:20:41.520 --> 1:20:43.160 This is the uncle in the early nineties. 1:20:43.560 --> 1:20:46.920 He sexually assaulted her and she became pregnant, and exact 1:20:47.000 --> 1:20:49.680 dates for the assault and fire were not available, but 1:20:49.840 --> 1:20:52.040 the brother was convicted of the sexual assault in nineteen 1:20:52.080 --> 1:20:55.920 ninety two. The girl was later returned to Africa and 1:20:56.000 --> 1:20:59.320 he served a one year sentence on Riker's Island before dying. 1:20:59.080 --> 1:21:01.559 In nineteen When I go to Africa, did she want 1:21:01.600 --> 1:21:02.200 to say? 1:21:03.320 --> 1:21:06.160 In the States? Like, I don't know. 1:21:06.240 --> 1:21:08.680 Maybe by the time, but maybe by the time she 1:21:08.760 --> 1:21:11.439 was like impregnated and sexually assaulted, she was like, I'd 1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:13.639 rather go back to my homeland and I don't really 1:21:13.640 --> 1:21:17.280 want to make a life here, or like she'd wanted 1:21:17.320 --> 1:21:18.720 to if she was who, I don't know. 1:21:18.760 --> 1:21:19.879 There was not a lot of information. 1:21:19.960 --> 1:21:25.000 I was like, if she like, if she kept the child, 1:21:25.080 --> 1:21:27.000 maybe she needed help raising it, like I don't know. 1:21:27.880 --> 1:21:30.320 And as part of the bronx DA's investigation into that 1:21:30.400 --> 1:21:33.040 rape case, they spoke with the Adoguos and the girl 1:21:33.120 --> 1:21:36.799 in question. In nineteen ninety two, and both times the girl, 1:21:37.200 --> 1:21:40.840 then sixteen, was ordered to say that she loved living 1:21:40.880 --> 1:21:42.720 with the family and taking care of the kids, and 1:21:42.760 --> 1:21:45.479 she said what they wanted her to say. So in 1:21:45.560 --> 1:21:48.800 nineteen ninety four, mister Adogwu presented this girl as his 1:21:48.920 --> 1:21:51.519 daughter to immigration and naturalization officials and got a false 1:21:51.560 --> 1:21:54.400 screen card for her, and in ninety six he ordered 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:57.120 her to begin working in Wendy's and Burger King restaurants, 1:21:57.160 --> 1:22:00.080 taking all her paychecks and putting the proceeds into his 1:22:00.160 --> 1:22:01.320 own bank accounts. 1:22:01.760 --> 1:22:02.120 Fucked. 1:22:02.560 --> 1:22:05.400 In nineteen ninety eight, the girl, now she speaks English, 1:22:05.439 --> 1:22:08.519 approaches a stranger with her story and the person, who's 1:22:08.560 --> 1:22:11.960 not identified by officials, helps her apply for a separate 1:22:12.000 --> 1:22:14.160 passport and she was able to put away nine hundred 1:22:14.160 --> 1:22:17.360 dollars in savings like smuggle money away from these people, 1:22:17.880 --> 1:22:21.080 but the applications and money were discovered by the mother, 1:22:21.520 --> 1:22:24.400 miss A dog Wou, and the couple used records of 1:22:24.439 --> 1:22:27.040 local phone calls from their home to discover the workplace 1:22:27.040 --> 1:22:29.080 of the person who had helped her, and the girl 1:22:29.120 --> 1:22:31.240 was forced to identify this person who had helped her, 1:22:31.479 --> 1:22:35.160 and then the mother then assaulted and screamed quote unquote 1:22:35.200 --> 1:22:37.599 at this person, according to The New York Times, until 1:22:37.840 --> 1:22:40.040 a huge fight they had in August of nineteen ninety 1:22:40.040 --> 1:22:43.719 eight where neighbors called the police. Neighbors did not report 1:22:43.760 --> 1:22:46.439 any suspicions to the police or child welfare officials about 1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:50.840 this case. And there was a guy named Chris Traverzo 1:22:50.960 --> 1:22:52.760 twenty four who told The New York Times that he 1:22:52.840 --> 1:22:55.559 vividly remembers the fight, and he goes, quote, I was 1:22:55.560 --> 1:22:57.479 sitting on my porch just back from work when I 1:22:57.520 --> 1:22:58.559 heard screaming next door. 1:22:58.600 --> 1:23:00.760 It was horrible. I told my parents about it, and 1:23:00.800 --> 1:23:06.320 they said, mind your own business end quote. So sadly, 1:23:07.040 --> 1:23:08.760 we see this all the time, where like people are 1:23:08.760 --> 1:23:11.880 being abused, and like neighbors are like, even though they 1:23:11.880 --> 1:23:16.800 are like something's up, they don't call anyone. So I 1:23:16.840 --> 1:23:19.200 don't actually know what ended up happening with those people. 1:23:19.400 --> 1:23:21.920 I don't know where they're whether they served jail time 1:23:22.000 --> 1:23:26.360 or not. There was no more information, but hopefully they did. 1:23:27.160 --> 1:23:32.640 Well we live in a nightmare, yes, and anyone that 1:23:32.680 --> 1:23:33.920 believes in God's an idiot. 1:23:34.040 --> 1:23:40.800 All right, let's move it along, No guest, just I 1:23:40.800 --> 1:23:42.800 guess sadness. 1:23:46.720 --> 1:23:49.479 This episode is this is a haunting one like just 1:23:49.560 --> 1:23:54.719 Michael Emerson's so creepy that like just's he barely seems 1:23:54.800 --> 1:23:57.479 sorry when he gets caught, like he's just kind of 1:23:57.560 --> 1:23:58.160 like no, and. 1:23:58.200 --> 1:24:00.960 He's never nervous, like that's you know, versus voice. He's 1:24:01.040 --> 1:24:03.640 very much like what But I wonder inside is you're 1:24:03.680 --> 1:24:06.559 heart beating when you're a socio or you still don't care. 1:24:06.760 --> 1:24:07.160 I don't know. 1:24:07.200 --> 1:24:09.439 Maybe that's how they like beat Lie detectors because they 1:24:09.439 --> 1:24:12.320 could just stay so chill and calm and not like 1:24:12.439 --> 1:24:13.840 an unaffected But. 1:24:13.840 --> 1:24:16.559 Yeah, ritual is one of the saddest and like to me, 1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:20.240 I just it breaks my soul. 1:24:20.320 --> 1:24:22.400 I don't know, it's sad. These are people's lives. These 1:24:22.400 --> 1:24:22.800 are kids. 1:24:22.840 --> 1:24:25.080 Kids are chained up, they're in trucks, they're being used, 1:24:25.080 --> 1:24:26.439 they're like doing labor. 1:24:26.479 --> 1:24:29.120 It sucks. This is like so sad to be a 1:24:29.160 --> 1:24:29.880 little boy. 1:24:30.000 --> 1:24:32.360 Like oh and you know, you guys, I know it's 1:24:32.360 --> 1:24:35.479 tough in other countries sometimes, but like no one's taking 1:24:35.479 --> 1:24:36.599 you to America for free. 1:24:36.640 --> 1:24:39.840 We gotta we gotta get that. Like I do not 1:24:39.960 --> 1:24:43.120 trust anybody, trust no one. 1:24:43.760 --> 1:24:48.040 Yeah, and they the story of Adam is so sad too. 1:24:48.200 --> 1:24:50.840 I mean, like again, another story that kind of got 1:24:50.920 --> 1:24:53.640 brushed aside a little bit because of the magnitude of 1:24:53.720 --> 1:24:56.360 nine to eleven and its presence in the press, but 1:24:56.520 --> 1:24:59.559 like I wish, I mean, it did sound like in 1:24:59.600 --> 1:25:02.360 the end the detectives pushed really hard and got Nelson 1:25:02.400 --> 1:25:04.519 Mandela to talk about it, and they tried to identify 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:06.479 this kid. It's just so sad that like a family 1:25:06.520 --> 1:25:10.639 never got closure and this like poor child was never 1:25:10.840 --> 1:25:13.400 like I mean, I guess they tried to like lay 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:15.559 him to rest in a respectful way, but he was. 1:25:15.520 --> 1:25:18.840 Like never identified. It's so terrible. But yeah, I don't 1:25:18.880 --> 1:25:23.080 know post mortem lessons, Uh, don't go out. 1:25:23.920 --> 1:25:25.559 If you go out of town for two months and 1:25:25.600 --> 1:25:27.479 you call your husband after a month and Sam coming 1:25:27.479 --> 1:25:29.759 home and he gets pissed at you, something is fucking 1:25:29.880 --> 1:25:32.960 up for sure, and hopefully it's just an affair. 1:25:33.600 --> 1:25:38.519 But yeah, I mean, because was he not going to 1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:41.120 kill the kid if she didn't come home early? 1:25:42.520 --> 1:25:44.240 Or is he always killing the kids? 1:25:44.600 --> 1:25:46.120 Or is this because its not the first time we've 1:25:46.160 --> 1:25:50.519 done this, Like it's kids, go, does he sell them? 1:25:50.560 --> 1:25:52.280 Like I just I don't want to, Yeah, I mean 1:25:52.320 --> 1:25:57.280 you would, I don't know, like maybe he has Yeah, 1:25:57.439 --> 1:26:00.000 that's a great question. Like, but he was in a hurry, 1:26:00.280 --> 1:26:02.680 like maybe he's killed other kids where he's gotten rid 1:26:02.720 --> 1:26:05.200 of them in a way where like they won't be found, 1:26:05.439 --> 1:26:08.120 you know, But this time he was like it had 1:26:08.160 --> 1:26:09.840 to be quick, so I may, like I mean to 1:26:09.880 --> 1:26:13.479 have the wherewithal to like chop up the body, plant 1:26:13.600 --> 1:26:16.240 part of it here, like and make it look like 1:26:16.320 --> 1:26:19.040 Santa Ria. Like it was like he actually had a 1:26:19.040 --> 1:26:21.920 pretty thought through plan considering his wife was coming home 1:26:21.960 --> 1:26:24.200 from I don't know what a six hour flight or something, 1:26:24.800 --> 1:26:27.280 but yeah. 1:26:26.840 --> 1:26:30.400 And gave the pouch. Yeah, and it shows everyone's a suspect. 1:26:30.840 --> 1:26:33.479 And it's like a disgusting look at like these rich 1:26:33.520 --> 1:26:35.840 people because like if anybody could afford to pay like 1:26:35.960 --> 1:26:40.519 above minimum wage, like good hours benefits two people. It's 1:26:40.520 --> 1:26:42.920 like the women like this woman who lives on Park 1:26:42.960 --> 1:26:44.479 Avenue or whatever and it is part of like a 1:26:44.479 --> 1:26:49.400 flower club, but instead she's like hiring some thirteen year 1:26:49.439 --> 1:26:52.120 old child that she bought to like work for no 1:26:52.240 --> 1:26:53.280 money as a slave. 1:26:53.439 --> 1:26:58.400 Like it's so wild, it's wild. Yeah, the rich are 1:26:58.479 --> 1:27:01.840 so cheap, and she thought she did nothing wrong. She 1:27:01.920 --> 1:27:03.560 was like annoyed to have to cooperate. 1:27:04.160 --> 1:27:07.559 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because she doesn't see that little girl 1:27:07.600 --> 1:27:10.759 as a person or you know, any of those children 1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:13.800 as people. But yeah, that scene at the end with 1:27:13.840 --> 1:27:16.280 all the kids like chained into the thing is really 1:27:16.320 --> 1:27:17.679 like burned in my brain forever. 1:27:18.040 --> 1:27:19.280 And I know I've like been. 1:27:19.200 --> 1:27:21.960 Vocal on this podcast about like, well, child trafficking is 1:27:22.000 --> 1:27:24.960 not like the numbers are inflated, Like I would say 1:27:25.520 --> 1:27:28.519 that from what I've learned and read about, Like the 1:27:28.600 --> 1:27:30.880 numbers are not as inflated. It's just like a lot 1:27:30.880 --> 1:27:34.160 of times they're being forced into servitude. It's not necessarily 1:27:34.960 --> 1:27:37.960 you know, sex slave and abasement, boogeyman type of stuff. 1:27:37.960 --> 1:27:39.000 But yeah, all the time. 1:27:39.080 --> 1:27:41.479 And I think what your point is and what people 1:27:41.520 --> 1:27:44.880 are trying to say is like it's families selling their kid. 1:27:44.920 --> 1:27:48.000 It's an uncle, it's an aunt. It's not stranger danger. 1:27:48.280 --> 1:27:50.800 It's not vans picking up your kid on their don't 1:27:50.840 --> 1:27:52.080 have to like tie your. 1:27:51.960 --> 1:27:55.880 Baby's ankle to the target, you know, shopping bart But 1:27:56.080 --> 1:27:58.160 if that makes you feel better, that's fine, But it's 1:27:58.160 --> 1:28:00.000 not like you care more about your kid. 1:28:00.160 --> 1:28:02.759 Just listen. It's some. 1:28:04.160 --> 1:28:07.920 It's like wellness, mother, like something happens. It's like quan 1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:09.479 on adjacent to me, you know. 1:28:09.640 --> 1:28:11.360 Yeah, it's like the episode of You're Wrong About That 1:28:11.400 --> 1:28:14.200 I always talk about starts with that like Wayfair thing, 1:28:14.200 --> 1:28:16.960 which was very cute adjacent and like that's where they 1:28:16.960 --> 1:28:18.960 get into all the child trafficking talk. 1:28:19.040 --> 1:28:22.360 But anyway, I gave that one. Yeah, I believe in 1:28:22.400 --> 1:28:27.760 the Wayfair one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember. Yeah, I 1:28:27.760 --> 1:28:29.840 remember talking to you and Julie about it and being 1:28:29.920 --> 1:28:33.240 like okay, and then I just like I didn't know 1:28:33.320 --> 1:28:35.519 until I listened to that You're Wrong about like how 1:28:35.720 --> 1:28:40.240 it really like went down. But uh now I own 1:28:40.320 --> 1:28:44.880 stuff from Wayfair, so yeah, I think it was. Yeah, 1:28:44.920 --> 1:28:47.120 it's okay. I don't think Wayfair is trafficking anybody, so 1:28:47.320 --> 1:28:49.679 you're good. I think everyone's trafficking. I think the whole 1:28:49.680 --> 1:28:51.519 government simpol I mean, I don't know. 1:28:51.800 --> 1:28:54.599 We'll see who what this p didty shit shows and 1:28:55.080 --> 1:28:57.400 if he will be murdered like an Epstein because he's 1:28:57.439 --> 1:29:00.880 got names. But I know there's like the woman I follow. 1:29:01.040 --> 1:29:03.200 I'm sure you know, she goes viral a lot. She's 1:29:03.800 --> 1:29:07.320 a really she's just like really articulate, like she just 1:29:07.400 --> 1:29:09.640 is so smooth in her communication, and she has a 1:29:09.640 --> 1:29:11.800 feminist podcast. And then like a dude speaks for the 1:29:11.840 --> 1:29:15.840 male perspective and she's really just like good at Gotcha's, 1:29:16.439 --> 1:29:20.600 but in a sweet, not aggressive way. But she was 1:29:20.600 --> 1:29:22.680 talking about the p did anything to this man? And 1:29:22.760 --> 1:29:24.120 we talk about this all the time, but it was 1:29:24.160 --> 1:29:29.040 like all these dudes were around him, all these friends, 1:29:29.080 --> 1:29:32.080 like all of you saw all of you saw that 1:29:32.640 --> 1:29:36.320 and none of you no man, like twenty plus thirty 1:29:36.439 --> 1:29:39.040 years and maybe they thought he was gonna kill them, 1:29:39.080 --> 1:29:42.280 but it's just like for money, for what you all 1:29:42.320 --> 1:29:44.360 had his back. You all knew he was abusing women. 1:29:44.439 --> 1:29:47.120 I think he killed kim Porter. Like you all sat there, 1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:49.200 you didn't know he beat Cassie? Fuck all of you? 1:29:49.800 --> 1:29:50.920 Do you know? Was there ever? 1:29:51.120 --> 1:29:53.960 Like you know how like for years there was gossip 1:29:54.040 --> 1:29:56.680 about Ellen being a bitch, and like for years there 1:29:56.720 --> 1:29:58.960 was like Louis c k whispers before that came out, 1:29:59.000 --> 1:30:01.880 and like so were there whispers about Diddy? Like I'm 1:30:01.920 --> 1:30:04.559 trying to remember if I've like heard about that minus 1:30:04.680 --> 1:30:06.439 like oh did he throws the white party? 1:30:06.479 --> 1:30:07.639 And did he has big parties? 1:30:07.680 --> 1:30:10.559 Like were there like people talking, well, I wore the 1:30:10.600 --> 1:30:13.320 Cassie stuff, and I think it was I think when 1:30:13.360 --> 1:30:16.479 I started finding out was Kim Porter his wife. 1:30:16.560 --> 1:30:18.759 I was like, oh, he killed her, Like that's when. 1:30:18.640 --> 1:30:22.960 I started becoming like, oh he's something's up. And then 1:30:23.000 --> 1:30:25.200 it was Dannity Kane's stuff. I feel like that's when 1:30:25.240 --> 1:30:28.479 I became in the know. But I do think black 1:30:28.520 --> 1:30:31.920 culture is not as mainstream, like I think the black 1:30:31.960 --> 1:30:35.080 community knew. I think people that are no hip hop knew, 1:30:35.160 --> 1:30:38.040 but like I don't think it mixes as much, like 1:30:38.080 --> 1:30:39.559 I don't think we know a lot. So now I'm 1:30:39.600 --> 1:30:43.880 getting all these like black conspiracy theories in my feed, 1:30:43.960 --> 1:30:45.800 and I am you know, because they also think if 1:30:45.840 --> 1:30:49.120 you don't, there's have you heard this Beyonce one? 1:30:49.400 --> 1:30:52.639 Like jay Z. I've heard that jay Z is next 1:30:53.160 --> 1:30:53.639 or something. 1:30:53.720 --> 1:30:56.439 Well, so I guess if you win an award where 1:30:56.479 --> 1:30:59.439 Beyonce was nominated, you have to think Beyonce and the 1:30:59.479 --> 1:31:04.280 people that haven't have all been murdered or all been 1:31:04.360 --> 1:31:08.679 killed left eye Aliyah Michael Jackson Like, if you don't 1:31:08.720 --> 1:31:12.240 like think Beyonce, there's just like I don't. 1:31:12.000 --> 1:31:13.360 Believe, oh my god. 1:31:14.320 --> 1:31:17.360 But and then they're like, that's why Kanye interrupted Taylor. 1:31:17.439 --> 1:31:19.559 It was like to save her life because she But 1:31:19.600 --> 1:31:21.519 I was like, I don't buy that. I'm sorry, no, no, 1:31:21.520 --> 1:31:27.240 no God, but this like feminist girl is just making 1:31:27.240 --> 1:31:28.840 a good point where it's like you all don't think 1:31:28.880 --> 1:31:30.479 you're the bad guy. And it's back to that French 1:31:30.520 --> 1:31:32.679 woman where the whole neighborhood was like raping her while 1:31:32.720 --> 1:31:34.839 she was drugged by her husband, where it's like, oh, 1:31:34.880 --> 1:31:37.479 you guys keep saying all these good guys, but like 1:31:37.520 --> 1:31:40.080 you sat around because even I just saw an interview 1:31:40.120 --> 1:31:43.320 where like a musician or producer, like someone I don't know, 1:31:43.960 --> 1:31:47.719 showed up to the studio and went out to smoke 1:31:47.760 --> 1:31:50.000 weed or whatever, but pet did. He was into his 1:31:50.040 --> 1:31:52.559 girl whatever, and then when he came back from outside, 1:31:52.560 --> 1:31:54.040 she's like, why would you leave me in there with him? 1:31:54.040 --> 1:31:56.840 He's such a creep, And that's when he figured out, 1:31:56.880 --> 1:31:59.640 like they've known for decades. It's crazy, you know, like 1:32:00.360 --> 1:32:01.120 and I think they've been a. 1:32:01.040 --> 1:32:01.360 Part of it. 1:32:01.400 --> 1:32:02.840 I think they've been to the parties and I think 1:32:02.880 --> 1:32:05.840 ash shit, and I mean and all the clips resurfacing 1:32:05.920 --> 1:32:08.799 about like poor Justin Bieber. 1:32:09.040 --> 1:32:09.639 I know, the. 1:32:09.600 --> 1:32:12.800 Bieber clip made me really uncomfortable. There's like a few 1:32:12.880 --> 1:32:18.200 like it, truly, like it's really sad, like Justin Bieber. 1:32:18.360 --> 1:32:20.400 You see the fear, You see the fear in him, 1:32:20.680 --> 1:32:24.360 Paddy like yeah, but now there's Salma Hayak. But they 1:32:24.400 --> 1:32:27.559 also a lot of this stuff is coming out from 1:32:27.600 --> 1:32:30.320 people that like think Hollywood is like the most depraved 1:32:30.320 --> 1:32:33.200 of it all, and it's like, honey, I don't know, 1:32:33.680 --> 1:32:36.400 like the Catholic Church, the government, what are we talking about? 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:39.120 I mean it's everything. Bad things are happening in our 1:32:39.160 --> 1:32:40.280 backyards at all times. 1:32:40.320 --> 1:32:41.360 I mean Hollywood is not. 1:32:41.800 --> 1:32:46.280 Yeah, but they love like it's all these Hollywood liberals 1:32:46.360 --> 1:32:49.479 like because now they're saying like Salma Hayek's married to 1:32:49.479 --> 1:32:52.240 this billionaire whose family owns like h like what. 1:32:52.240 --> 1:32:53.560 Is it mesh? 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:58.599 Yeah, and that's part of Balenciaga, and Balenciaga does child 1:32:58.640 --> 1:32:59.679 right Because then they were. 1:33:01.160 --> 1:33:03.639 On a like Graham Norton's cout what's his name? 1:33:03.640 --> 1:33:06.640 Not Graham gram Norton, It is the one that the 1:33:06.640 --> 1:33:09.320 British cutie like kay cuty okay, yeah yeah, and so 1:33:09.960 --> 1:33:11.840 and then it was like someone talking about Diddy and 1:33:11.880 --> 1:33:14.759 like Samahayak's eyes opened, like you know, but we're reading 1:33:14.760 --> 1:33:17.280 into all these things. But I think people knew about Diddy. 1:33:17.560 --> 1:33:20.320 Yeah, you can dots like you can connect a lot 1:33:20.400 --> 1:33:21.559 of different dots if you want. 1:33:21.720 --> 1:33:24.160 I also, maybe this was just a few years ago. 1:33:24.040 --> 1:33:27.040 But I was under the impression or I believe that 1:33:27.080 --> 1:33:29.960 he killed Biggie to get ownership of the music. 1:33:30.520 --> 1:33:34.160 WHOA wow, because. 1:33:33.920 --> 1:33:35.960 There's a meme where you know, Biggie has like one 1:33:36.120 --> 1:33:39.080 loose eye and they're like he knew he had to 1:33:39.160 --> 1:33:42.280 keep one eye on Ditty at all times. Oh, there's 1:33:42.320 --> 1:33:44.679 also like I don't know if it's changed. There's also 1:33:44.720 --> 1:33:50.320 another interview left it so Hard. There's also another interview 1:33:50.400 --> 1:33:53.160 where like P Diddy. Oh, it's with Mike Tyson and 1:33:53.160 --> 1:33:55.599 P Diddy tries to like touch him, and Mike Tyson 1:33:55.720 --> 1:33:58.599 like moves over, moves his hand and like stares him down. 1:33:59.560 --> 1:34:03.200 There's all this stuff's coming out. Everyone knew, yeah, And 1:34:03.240 --> 1:34:06.240 I mean, like whatever, there's power. People don't think they 1:34:06.240 --> 1:34:08.160 can do anything. People think if they speak up, they're 1:34:08.160 --> 1:34:10.320 gonna get killed. Like I know, there's a lot of 1:34:10.320 --> 1:34:15.720 different things involved, but it's fucked up that they that 1:34:15.479 --> 1:34:17.880 that it was allowed to happen, because it's like people 1:34:17.920 --> 1:34:20.120 like Ashton Kutcher, it's like you have power, you know. 1:34:20.560 --> 1:34:22.439 Well for him, it would be the most sinister if 1:34:22.600 --> 1:34:25.160 it came out, because it's like with the organization and 1:34:25.200 --> 1:34:26.960 like I save people for you know, it wouldn't be 1:34:27.000 --> 1:34:31.479 the first time. Yeah, Hank Hank Abraham's view, Yeah yeah 1:34:31.520 --> 1:34:32.360 episode Yeah. 1:34:32.400 --> 1:34:34.960 But also like but also the way he was like 1:34:35.040 --> 1:34:37.840 kind of weirdly standing by Danny Masterson and then was like, oh, 1:34:37.920 --> 1:34:42.200 just kidding what you know, Like I don't know, I 1:34:42.240 --> 1:34:46.240 don't know. It's wild. 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