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Speaker 1: Hi'm hello football fans. Make sure you check out the

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Speaker 1: new episode of the Dave Damnit Check Football Program. We've

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Speaker 1: got Josh Norman to the Carolina Panthers talking about this

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Speaker 1: contract situation, the Denver Broncos, Batman versus Superman and beyond.

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Speaker 1: little family reunion here Maurice Jones, Drew and He get together.

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Speaker 1: Here in Studio sixty plus, we're reacting to r G

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Speaker 1: out on iTunes for NFL dot com slash podcasts, the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast is still beeping with the Move

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Speaker 1: the Sticks podcast. Welcome back to another edition of the

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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jansas and

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Speaker 1: I am joined by room filled with traditional heroes. Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys in Welcome back? Mark? Hey,

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Speaker 1: thank you listener or uh yeah, listener tweeted at me yesterday,

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Speaker 1: when is Mark coming back? I miss his moodiness? Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, listen as long as you're missed. I don't

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Speaker 1: care for what read you absolutely missed. We missed you.

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Speaker 1: I mean of all the and I said this yesterday

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday Show, and I'll bring it up again. Of

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Speaker 1: all the damn days for you to miss the one

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Speaker 1: where Aaron Rodgers tells a podcast that he saw UFO.

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Speaker 1: I you know, you call for vengeance all the time.

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Speaker 1: This is this is what stirs me up. Do you

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Speaker 1: want to declare it? Why don't we have a podcast

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Speaker 1: on Tybee Island the next time West is out. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about being like a cynical contrarian the next time

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Speaker 1: Greg is out, or we'll talk about what it was

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Speaker 1: like to grow up in a cold town the next

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Speaker 1: time Dan's you know, wasn't easy. I mean, this is absurd.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I didn't know what. You know what.

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Speaker 1: Greg didn't like that, but he disagrees with this country. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guarantee Greg just not believe in UFOs. If I

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Speaker 1: had to take again, you already do that. So now

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Speaker 1: you're now you're the one pretending things. I knew it.

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Speaker 1: I knew it because I guessed at two minutes. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go back and listen because I'm well, here's the

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Speaker 1: thing that's happened since I've got an I've got an update.

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Speaker 1: I've listened to this podcast now, and it's about a

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Speaker 1: lot more than uh just aliens. It's about spirituality and

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Speaker 1: uh and gets into some very deep topics and I

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Speaker 1: would recommend it. Go listen to You Made It Weird

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Speaker 1: with Pete Homes and Aaron Rodgers and maybe make you

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Speaker 1: think a little differently about old Mr rod Would you

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Speaker 1: say Pete Holmes is now your favorite comedian? Uh? So, Mark,

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Speaker 1: why don't Just so you're on the record, you deserve

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Speaker 1: to be on the record on this um Your statement

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Speaker 1: on life outside humanity a statement I mean, I I

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Speaker 1: think I'm very open to the idea of stuff beyond

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Speaker 1: that whole topic, but I'm I'm open to believe in it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what would happen to your life if you became convinced

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Speaker 1: it would Well, I think it would change your perspective

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Speaker 1: that's probably toughest the minute that you go around saying

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Speaker 1: that you've seen anything like that, every know it all

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Speaker 1: on Terra Firmer comes out to tell you it can exist.

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Speaker 1: You're wrong, No one knows, but that's to me, that's

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Speaker 1: just strong man argument. Because I think this conversation that

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Speaker 1: Rogers has has had and I loved listening to it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm, you know, a skeptic. I don't think anyone's

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Speaker 1: come at it with that. I think people are, on

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. In general, people that say that they've

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Speaker 1: response overall response is ridicule or you don't believe them.

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Speaker 1: Not for Aaron Rodgers, not in this room, am I wrong?

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Speaker 1: For the most part, people want to believe I think,

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Speaker 1: seven or whatever when roswell, which is which is funny

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Speaker 1: because there's been no evidence since then too. Uh, But

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Speaker 1: if you dig there is evidence. We us roundly dismissed.

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Speaker 1: edge at all. You're misreading the situation, all right. So

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll do that later in the summer. But right now,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of football to talk about. Still, good

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Speaker 1: show coming up. I'm gonna give this a pre show

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Speaker 1: grade of B plus and I'll tell you why. Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah is back on the show today. You move the sticks,

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Speaker 1: of course, Uh building a mini empire here at NFL Media.

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Speaker 1: This is his time of the year. He is one

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Speaker 1: of the best um draft analysts really in the entire industry,

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Speaker 1: uh the football Um, uh what Globe, Well here's the

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Speaker 1: teams in the NFC that offered him big time jobs.

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Speaker 1: Record absolutely so deep bona fides. So we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: Then we will also get into some news. And there

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Speaker 1: was some huge news that came uh late in the

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Speaker 1: of Baylor University, who had a star Cross ride in

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Speaker 1: our nation's capital and now um calls home a new city,

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Speaker 1: a new city that Mark Sessler has ties to. I'm

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Speaker 1: like fourteen colleges. Mark's actually never lived in seven states.

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Speaker 1: Our listeners greater than that. Whatever, Bro, you just stole

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Speaker 1: that from Carl our listener. Sorry Carl with selective years.

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Speaker 1: the Irishman behind the glass. What's Someboddy. I'm just looking

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Speaker 1: forward to the Alien podcast, UFO podcast. I watch all

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Speaker 1: to get you for going away gift you have. It's interesting.

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Speaker 1: big fan of shot in Freud? Freud? How do you

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Speaker 1: It's all about timing in in life, you know. Patrick

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Speaker 1: Robinson signs in the first twenty four hours of free agency.

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Speaker 1: He's lucky if he gets into the speed round you

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Speaker 1: sign on May March four. He's the number two item.

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Speaker 1: And it's timing and free agency too. I think the

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Speaker 1: Colts deserve some credit for not going too crazy and

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Speaker 1: free agency this year. And I think this is the

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Speaker 1: perfect type of second wave of a free agency move

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Speaker 1: that they It's like, how much worse is your team

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Speaker 1: really gonna be because you have Patrick Robinson versus Sagenorris

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Speaker 1: Jenkins next year? I don't know. Maybe maybe you will

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Speaker 1: be a lot worse, good question, but I don't really know.

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Speaker 1: And they're gonna get him for like three million dollars

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Speaker 1: on on a small deal and with the draft coming

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Speaker 1: up because Dallas was pursuing him as well. I think

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Speaker 1: it makes Dallas a clear potential to go defensive back

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Speaker 1: very high in the draft. A huge need, so many needs.

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Speaker 1: In other news, the type of bit Buccaneers had the

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Speaker 1: first overall pick and last year's draft and took Jameis Winston.

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Speaker 1: Uh that left Mike Lennon and limbo with the franchise.

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Speaker 1: He's viewed as a talented um quarterback that had some

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Speaker 1: success before Winston got to town, and there's always been speculation.

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Speaker 1: It feels like for years now that he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: traded Glennon. Dirk Cutter, the Bucks coach, said Wednesday that

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Speaker 1: the idea of trading Glennon scares him a little bit.

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Speaker 1: He said a little Yeah. I'm on record saying that

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Speaker 1: I think Mike Lennon is a starter in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge Mike Lennon fan, so I'd love to

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Speaker 1: have Mike Glennon, just say, Mike bro on our football team.

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Speaker 1: But it's a business, and if something happens that he's

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Speaker 1: not with us, well, that's why we acquired Ryan Griffin

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Speaker 1: lest year. Yes, we always talked about that Ryan Griffin

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Speaker 1: trade from last year. But uh so, Michael, it sounds

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Speaker 1: like two lane starter. By the way, Ryan Griffin bang.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like Greg that the door is open for

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Speaker 1: a trade and it still makes sense. And I'll throw,

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Speaker 1: you know, my jets out there to kick some tires

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Speaker 1: on Mike Lennon. Well, Chris Wesleyan has been at the

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Speaker 1: front of this story. Chris and Mike Francisa. By the way,

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Speaker 1: that's Mike Glennon. Is the third off season where Glennan

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Speaker 1: trade talk is huge, But Wesleyans is really pushing this

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Speaker 1: Glennon to the Broncos narrative. Well, here's why it's in narrative.

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Speaker 1: But it's interesting to me on so many different levels.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I guarantee you there are coaches in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. There are scouts in the NFL who think

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Speaker 1: more highly of Mike Glennon at six hundred and seventy

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars this year than they do a brock

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Speaker 1: os Wild at thirty seven million. You're saying even if

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Speaker 1: you're saying, if you even took out the salary, even

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Speaker 1: if the salaries there are, there are scouts and executives

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Speaker 1: and coaches who would like Glennon is a stronger arm.

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Speaker 1: They have essentially the same qbrs and passer ratings. Glennon

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Speaker 1: did it with lesser talent around him. Uh, he's more

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Speaker 1: proven than Osweiler too. From the Bucks perspective perspective, it's

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Speaker 1: really interesting to me because he's entering the final year

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Speaker 1: of his rookie contract. They have holes on that roster.

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Speaker 1: There are different than the Bengals with McCarron. The Bengals

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Speaker 1: are a Super Bowl contender with McCarron having two years

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Speaker 1: left on his contract, they shouldn't trade him. But the

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Speaker 1: Bucks do. They have the luxury of sitting on Mike

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Speaker 1: Glennon and losing him next year. Get it, get four

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Speaker 1: year contract. You could pick up a second or third

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Speaker 1: round pick and get a starter on a roster that

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Speaker 1: needs starters. And if Jameis Winston goes down, your season's over. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more because why not going to the

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Speaker 1: playoffs with Mike Glennon and that roster right sell high?

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Speaker 1: I mean at the at the meetings, I was trying

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Speaker 1: to if I ever saw anyone on the Bucks, who

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Speaker 1: were they sitting with? Who are they talking to you?

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Speaker 1: Because that's when that I thought, maybe it goes down.

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Speaker 1: That's who the when they have those conversations. But Glennon,

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Speaker 1: at this point you can get something for him. There

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Speaker 1: are teams that legitimately need a quarterback. The Jets would

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Speaker 1: be very interesting. And Glennon in the pre draft process

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Speaker 1: was raved about by some people. They people that look

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Speaker 1: at certain NFL quarterback types and say this is what

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Speaker 1: you what you want? Glennan did all that, and then

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Speaker 1: I think it's a starter. He showed enough for why

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Speaker 1: not take a chance. I thought he was good as

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Speaker 1: a starter. I mean, I wasn't the only one that

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Speaker 1: I was really impressed with him as a starter. I

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Speaker 1: was more impressed then then Brocks, I think you have

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Speaker 1: but wait, your fails my basic test for quarterbacks. He

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Speaker 1: goes two or three quarters without moving the offense, and

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Speaker 1: that's why he got benched. For Josh McCown I, I think,

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Speaker 1: I look at Glennon and I just I want paid

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Speaker 1: more patients with all these quarterbacks, but someone that if

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Speaker 1: you can, if you have to trade a mid round

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Speaker 1: type pick for this, and it probably would be more

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Speaker 1: than that. At this point, I don't think, I think,

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Speaker 1: but what do you get? What do you get in

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Speaker 1: the third round in most drafts? If you look at

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Speaker 1: most third round picks, so many of them glenn and

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Speaker 1: three years ago, I'd rather have him now absolutely. How

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Speaker 1: about how about the mood by the way you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: you know, start the show. You know our listener missed

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Speaker 1: the moods of Mark ss slur and I did an

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Speaker 1: NFL now hit a little earlier, and I would put

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Speaker 1: Mark Seessler's mood after coming off of annual meeting as

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Speaker 1: energized and um thrilling. Have not slept into now I know,

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Speaker 1: but you, to me, you've been a lot of energy,

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Speaker 1: very positive, like you seem like you're engaged, like you

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Speaker 1: are crushing the NFL world right now. You know you're

529
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Speaker 1: coming off a big week and you're feeling your oats

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Speaker 1: kind of like a live wire right now. I am

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Speaker 1: counting the clock until my I was being genuine them.

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Speaker 1: The Giants lost ten games last year. Seven of those

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Speaker 1: defeats came by a combined total of eighteen points. In

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Speaker 1: five of those losses, they had a lead with a

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Speaker 1: minute seconds to play. It was a problem. So Ben McAdoo,

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Speaker 1: the new head coach, who is the new head coach,

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Speaker 1: but the old head coaches is strolling around on a

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Speaker 1: scooter go into the whirlpool at the Giants facilitia. Hey Tommy,

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Speaker 1: go home, Tommy. Hey, Tommy did good things for us.

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Speaker 1: It's very weird. He gave us due rings in a

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Speaker 1: lot of dignity and a lot of class. Well, Tommy,

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Speaker 1: down the home. Ben McAdoo has formed a six person

543
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Speaker 1: game management team to identify and correct big blues, big

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Speaker 1: problem with closing. Uh, but you hire a ten year

545
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Speaker 1: old who's played Madden. It's that really Madden does teach

546
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Speaker 1: you a lot about the clock management. But the task force,

547
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Speaker 1: it's a task force. It's just throwing money at it.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of the thing that I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: hiring outside. No, it's into since I guys they'll meet

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Speaker 1: once a week on a Friday or Saturday morning. Uh,

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Speaker 1: They're just he's trying to be proactive. I feel like

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Speaker 1: there's something a new head coach does because he just

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Speaker 1: wants to do something and he wants to New York.

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Speaker 1: Uh you think so, Yeah, come on, he's got a

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Speaker 1: six person task force to fix something that any coach

556
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Speaker 1: in the NFL should know how to do already. Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid can't do it. And he's a good coach, well,

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Speaker 1: and he reads a good coach, but he's horrible clock man.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, there, there are ways to do this.

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Speaker 1: Why don't you hire one analytics guy. Well, it's one

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Speaker 1: thing that I would one. That's why I was I

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Speaker 1: would never tell anyone that you've done this, because immediately

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Speaker 1: it's right. Let me listen, we're talking about it and

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Speaker 1: we're giving in zero creed and something said they did

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Speaker 1: it in Green Bay. That's where he got the idea.

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Speaker 1: Well after they had the same sort of troubles and

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Speaker 1: then they made a little I'm sure they're not, but

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Speaker 1: they're not the first team to do it or the last.

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Speaker 1: But you don't it's a bad time to advertise this.

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Speaker 1: Did you see Ben McAdoo in Florida? Yeah? Did he

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Speaker 1: get new wardrobe yet to match his weight loss? Is

572
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Speaker 1: he wearing like double XL polos? He looked his clothing fit.

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Speaker 1: I think he had corrected that by the combine. You know,

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Speaker 1: there was some common I think like a lot of

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Speaker 1: giant speed writers and we could ask Connor for but

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Speaker 1: talking just a few of the guys that, like Tom Coughlin,

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Speaker 1: outside of a few small instances, was not easy to

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Speaker 1: deal with. And I think that they were saying that

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Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo was a breath of fresh air for them,

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Speaker 1: covering the team. Who cares what they think? He told

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Speaker 1: me one quote, a guy was like Ben macabooya not

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Speaker 1: here that anyone that this this story would say, yes,

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Speaker 1: it would be you just did so it is. This

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Speaker 1: story reminds me of of the one thing I really

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Speaker 1: took from Michael Lombardi when he worked there here, when

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Speaker 1: he always said they never make statues for committees. They're

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Speaker 1: not They're never gonna be like that task force that

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Speaker 1: those meetings. That's what turned this ship around. And finally

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Speaker 1: in the news, Ruben Randall, a former New York Giant

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Speaker 1: himself wide receiver, has signed a deal with the Philadelphia Eagles,

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Speaker 1: a one year contract were three million with five thousand guaranteed.

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Speaker 1: Ranked number two, number number ninety two on our list

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Speaker 1: of the top ninety nine free agents. If you have

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Speaker 1: a problems, for bad for your son, problems, whatever you

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Speaker 1: can do running out of time to do? You know

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Speaker 1: us Pat Pat rob Patrick Robinson was around seventy two

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Speaker 1: or something. You know, we're told quite often that if

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Speaker 1: you can say something on the podcast, you should be

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Speaker 1: able to say it in writing. Rubon Randall is a

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Speaker 1: challenge for that. How do you trash the guy in

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Speaker 1: a story? How do you say this guy's lasted so

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Speaker 1: long in free agency and the Giants got rid of

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Speaker 1: him because he's a lazy route runner, doesn't show up

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Speaker 1: the meetings and it's responsible for an abnormal percentage of

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning's interceptions. Sam Bradford, he's all yours, maybe the

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Speaker 1: sam I said yesterday, I tweeted out the Sam Bradford,

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Speaker 1: the Riubbon Randall connection is going to be the goldilocks.

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Speaker 1: In fairness, he is basically replacing you know, Miles Off,

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Speaker 1: veteran we don't really want on the team number four receivers.

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Speaker 1: So isn't it crazy that he's you're guaranteed in this profession,

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Speaker 1: he's going to make five hundred thousand dollars to be

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Speaker 1: a guy that nobody has really any excellent guaranteed? Wasn't

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Speaker 1: we'll probably make the team? Right? Probably? Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying even if he's say he just absolutely stinks it

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Speaker 1: up and he's out, he still makes We talked about

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Speaker 1: the rules we want to change in the NFL. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I should have gone against a catch roll and

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Speaker 1: said I would like that. Now NFL media inside NFL

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Speaker 1: insiders are no longer allowed to repeat guarantees because they

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Speaker 1: keep messing it up and they can't distinct. They can't

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Speaker 1: uh make a difference between fully guaranteed and guarantee. You've

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Speaker 1: mentioned this guarantees. I think we should only report signing

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Speaker 1: bonuses and that's it. So the long arm of Roger

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Speaker 1: Goodell now extending into the media telling them what to do.

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Speaker 1: That it's a it's a big step that they would

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Speaker 1: be taking. Well, he does have a pretty long arm.

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Speaker 1: Let's get into that a little bit more. Should he

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Speaker 1: have that long and arm? Mark? You go first, I

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Speaker 1: will defer to Westleness. Um, all right, that's what's happening

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Speaker 1: in the news. If, by the way, got I should

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Speaker 1: I should surface this because it was quite wild. I

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Speaker 1: got a I think you saw this a tweet one

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Speaker 1: of our listeners of any house Plant. Yeah, hey, oh

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Speaker 1: Anny house Plant. I don't know if he is in

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Speaker 1: the band, or if it's his buddies band, or if

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Speaker 1: it's even a band at all, but it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a group called six Car Collision released a single, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you've heard about this, called hairs

639
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: Us Yes, and lyrically, the song is entirely comprised of

640
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: tweets from my history, and it's kind of sounds like

641
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: a pavement B side. I actually kind of like the

642
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: song even if it wasn't about my hair. Can we

643
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: hear a little bit of a Brandon Let's give it

644
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: fresh ears, honest ears, and then give a nice review

645
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: of it. Let's play, you know, to the chorus through

646
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: the course. Let's see the Reminders, The Darkest Time, Mah Eights,

647
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Speaker 1: The dwe Bow Province sent s get Jersey, He's a

648
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Speaker 1: sad ship ship good stocks, stock hair respects hair by

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Speaker 1: Six Car Collision Mark Seesler your review promising. I feel

650
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Speaker 1: like the high school version of me might have had

651
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: that on a mixtape or something. It's got a post

652
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: grunge sounds. Yeah, definitely pavements. Way off base as a

653
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Speaker 1: as a about Pete Jorn, I mean, maybe it's a

654
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Speaker 1: little pet Orn, you know, the production value it's I mean,

655
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: in my opinion that way off base as an opinion,

656
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: that's like a shot. I mean I'm saying I'm saying

657
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: just as a touchdown, and it feels more like a

658
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: like a I have that singer songwriter so full. This

659
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: is the only song that this band has released. I

660
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: need to Yeah, I could dig into that a little bit.

661
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: Maybe they you're doing songs about all of us, but

662
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: Six Car Collision hars this is the only one I'm

663
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: aware of right now. Um, so good job, guys, thank

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Speaker 1: you for that. You now have two songs for you

665
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: and none of the rest of us hands any I'm

666
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: amused for the audience. I guess maybe I don't know.

667
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 1: Listen the doors open. I would love to hear a

668
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: song about greg Or West and Mark, if anybody's out

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00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: there with a musical heart. I'm fine with the way

670
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: it is right now. But um, if they want to

671
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: do that, that's that's why it's got to be Mark.

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00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: All right, let's get let's get the DJ. You know

673
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: we haven't had this man. I want to say Man,

674
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: I mean man in the old studio sixty six and sometime.

675
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: He is the co host Are the popular podcast on

676
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: NFL Media, one that I admire greatly. Bucky Brooks is

677
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: his co host. But the man to my lamp right

678
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: now is Daniel Jeremiah a k A at move the sticks.

679
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: So you're getting ready to say the man that carries

680
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: a Bucky Brooks we couldn't get him, so so for

681
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: Daniel get him in here. Um, yes, Daniel Jeremiah. And

682
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm looking right now at your Twitter page. Uh A

683
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: nice graphic here in black and white. So that is

684
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: for the uh this, Um I say the show wrong.

685
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: It's mock Draft Live launched next week, so they have

686
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of this animation. And when you look at

687
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: that picture, I got a friend of mine that runs

688
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: uh is big in the tourism industry. Down the sandy

689
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: has been wildly successful. He's funny, dude. And looking at

690
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: that at this picture, he said, it's a tune Town

691
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: font with an O G glare. Wow. The way he

692
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Speaker 1: described that it's accurate, I thought like maybe one of

693
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Speaker 1: your kids made it for you, because it does have

694
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: that type of like a cart Yes. Anyway, and then

695
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: you have like a Snapchat image which really speaks to

696
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: what's going on. And when you talk big picture with

697
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: the it's DJ season, you're branding yourself. You're an important figure. Um,

698
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: you know. Daniel actually sat down and so I got

699
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: twenty two minutes. You know why you were a big

700
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: time and us you got like fourteen shows you gotta

701
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: do there. You guys doing a lot of stuff. The

702
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: Snapchat thing true story. I had signed up for a

703
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: while ago, and I'm like, only you know in Buck

704
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: even said the only fourteen year old girls do Snapchat?

705
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: Come on, you're not doing Snapchat? Then Helly Helly has

706
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: just gone all in on Snapchat. Just to bust on him.

707
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: I started cranking up my Snapchat and so then I'll

708
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 1: just do I mean, there's anybody even watching? What what

709
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: is it? Though? Do you have? You are? Really? We are?

710
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: We are really dating ourselves. That's why I actually true story.

711
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: I might I have nieces and nephews and I would

712
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: call him on the phone and be like, how do

713
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: I do this? What does this do? Okay? I don't

714
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: want to send out? So how do I send it

715
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: out to everybody? Like? It's literally been a learning process

716
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: kind of it, but it is kind of fun. It's

717
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: how that's how they communicate now. I mean I have

718
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,959
Speaker 1: one too, but I I signed up about six months

719
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Speaker 1: ago and have not logged one. So what's the icon?

720
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: Why is it a goat? I have some questions just texting?

721
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: What's video texted? You can take pictures or videos, but

722
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: you just send them to your and then and it

723
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: goes away whatever. Right, there's no history, and that's that's

724
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: why the like anyone, anyone thirty or under listening to

725
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: this right now just going, oh, I think, why do

726
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: you need it? You need any of You could ask

727
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: that about so many things that we're doing online right now. Dan, though,

728
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: when you're asked a question about this kind of stuff,

729
00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: I always come back to the old saying it's better

730
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: to hop on a moving train than to get run

731
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: over by it. That's inside of it is alright. So

732
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, former scout um, former college quarterback, not a

733
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: very good one man that's been involved in front offices

734
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: for NFL teams and still being recruited herely was again

735
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: he is if you read reports out there, this is

736
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: what it's all goes back to. DJ is on the

737
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: top of the mountain and uh this time of the year,

738
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: so let's let's talk about it. And we are the

739
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: first to say, DJ, we always are on the Around

740
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast that we are not college savants. We

741
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 1: really plug in on these guys for the most part

742
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: and draft day and moving forward, so we need to

743
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: lean on an expert like you to help us out.

744
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: So why the heck is is arnold from different strokes

745
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: on your piece of paper right now? Can we discussed

746
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: that before we get into uh that. What I'm holding

747
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: in front of me for people listening is the rundown

748
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: of today's episode. And sometimes I like to put a

749
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: cute little image underneath the rundown just it just like

750
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: lightens the room and like I don't know, if you

751
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: guys are talking about like Willis mcgahey or something, and

752
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: then there's let's talk about Willis or what who. That's

753
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You know, we'll see we've got a

754
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: linebacker from right, more miles jack from you like alright, well,

755
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: let's get in with the Let's start right there. Jalen

756
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: Smith right. Big knee injury. Knee injury that has led

757
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: to much consternation, but there is a fair say he's

758
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: almost like an X factor of this draft. The guy

759
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: at monster talent, if healthy, could go at the top

760
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: of the draft. And he's kind of a wild card

761
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: right now. Eighteen minutes left. Uh he is? Uh, look

762
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: he he would have been in the mix to be

763
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: my number one overall player. The highest grades that I

764
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 1: gave out this year just off the tape Lamy Tunsil

765
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: and not to get away in the weeds, but like

766
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: so it's a six point nine grade, right and I

767
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: gave the exact same grade of Jalan Smith. Those are

768
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: two highest grades I handed out just based off the tape.

769
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, he's in the mix to be

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00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: my number one overall player. With the seven scaler and

771
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: eight goes to eight, I've given out one I gave

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Speaker 1: out one eight oh of my career and who I'll

773
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: never do it again. No, this is going back when

774
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: I was scouting. So you gotta go, uh do you want?

775
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: I wanna? Do you want to take a couple of guesses,

776
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: but the market he ended up being the second pick

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00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: in the draft. M hm hm oh, Robert Gallery, No,

778
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: Robert goes back for a little bit further than that. Yeah,

779
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: you Sessler is just just a computer over here taking

780
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: it one more guests. It's supposed to be a transcendent player,

781
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: and I bought. I just went all in on him.

782
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: He did not end up being a transcendent player, a

783
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: solid career. It might be over now. Reggie Bush. Yes, interesting,

784
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: highest grade every game, they said. I was reading the

785
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,480
Speaker 1: John Feinstein book which DJ is a big, big player

786
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: in about the two thousand four Raven season, and he

787
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: says that the only unanimous eight point oh grades in

788
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 1: NFL history where O. J. Simpson and Bo Jackson. How

789
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 1: about that? Yeah, we we very rarely give him out.

790
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: So he's injured, he's coming off an injury. But do

791
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: you think it would be crazy, for instance, for a

792
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: Tennessee to take him one or or even Cleveland if

793
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: they didn't want to go quarterback at two? Is that

794
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: that Smith? Yes? You know that that crazy that you

795
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: is the best player on tape? What isn't it? Aren't

796
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 1: they almost over You're almost overrating the injury because it

797
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: happened last year. But it's a major injury, not a

798
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: standard a c L. And I'm not a doctor. But

799
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Speaker 1: when you talk to people around the league and you

800
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: start hearing names of Mark Arcas Lattimore and Efo ray

801
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: Olamo and these guys, I mean, it does that's not

802
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: I know, I need you'd appreciate you. I looked at

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00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: you when I said, uh no, But I mean like

804
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: he's literally the only person in America that's written article

805
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: is about Efo that does not live in Cleveland, and

806
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: he's written like, well when you can get him where

807
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: they did in the seventh round? But where what are

808
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: But you don't know what you're gonna play. I meant

809
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: from a pr angle, if you take an injured player

810
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: one or two, I'm gonna tell you that's gonna be

811
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: tough for you as a GM. Greg Rosen tell the

812
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 1: GM too message to the city, Well there it's gonna happen.

813
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna get taken early. Miles Jack is

814
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 1: gonna get taken early. And it's not No. Number one overall,

815
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: but they're in the mix. Miles Jack is gonna get

816
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: taken early from just from again from what I've heard

817
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: from teams where their doctors are on Jalen Smith, he's

818
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: not going to be selected early. I mean, so we'll

819
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: see how far into the draft we end up going out.

820
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: A lot of more ended up being what a fourth

821
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: round pick I think for the and never saw the field.

822
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: So that's a cautionary tale there, and I hate it

823
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: because he is a great player. If if you weren't

824
00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: gonna take tons of one for Tennessee, what do you

825
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: think the other options would be? I think, I mean,

826
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: first and foremost, I think they would love to get

827
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: out of there if they could. If there's a market

828
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 1: to get out of I think they'd be their first choice.

829
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 1: But if not, if they sit there, I think you

830
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: look at tunsl Um, you look at at Jalen Ramsey

831
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 1: as being another option there. I think they probably bring

832
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: him in put him at safety, which is weird. I mean,

833
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: we've never seen somebody go up there, and every time

834
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: Charles on our un path of the draft. When he

835
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: mentions that or Bucky has talked about Jalen Ramsey doing that,

836
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: all I can think of is, uh is shooter from Hoosiers.

837
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: No school this small has ever want to state championship,

838
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: Like that's just okay. Sometimes, well what is special about Ramsey?

839
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I pet the buzz on its huge. He's

840
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 1: first of all, just the uh you know, the character,

841
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: the intelligence, the work ethic, all that stuff that you

842
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: don't see that you hear about is just off the charts,

843
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,959
Speaker 1: ultra competitive, all about football. It's all he cares about.

844
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: He's played nicol he's played safety, he's played corner, he's versatile,

845
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: he's a rare athlete, and he's a long jump champion

846
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: in the A c C. So he checks kind of

847
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: all those boxes and he hasn't I mean also, he

848
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: hasn't mastered every single one of those positions because they

849
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: have moved him around. But I think once they kind

850
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: of settle him in, I mean, he could he can

851
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: be an all place is like a honey badger situation.

852
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: That's what I said. And actually I've had a team

853
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: friend that said to me, he's a bigger honey badger.

854
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 1: Or Michael Huff. You know what, we love Michael Huff.

855
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: We love Michael Huff, and Baltimore never had that that

856
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: type of a crew, but it was it was somebody

857
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: that played all over the place. This kid is is

858
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: physically stronger and tougher than Huff. Well, you were on

859
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: you're on the air today watching Carson Wentz is pro day.

860
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: That's the big news of the day and the just

861
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 1: watching you guys and seeing some of those fifty five

862
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: yard bombs in that talk coming out of it almost

863
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: reminded me of the reaction after JaMarcus Russell's I mean

864
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: it was people were loving this pro day, Like, what

865
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: were your thoughts on that pro day? And doesn't make

866
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: him even more likely to go number two? Well, it's

867
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: it's one of the better pro days I've seen. And

868
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: you know, from this vantage point, you know, being there

869
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: is different. When you're live, you get a better feel

870
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: for it. But just in terms of the four years

871
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: I've been doing it here, of all the workouts these quarterbacks,

872
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: that was as good as I've seen just in terms

873
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 1: of velocity, um accuracy, being able to change ball speeds

874
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 1: and stuff, which is big, and that's um something you

875
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: saw there the differences, you know, with the JaMarcus Russell

876
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: on this type of a comparison obviously totally different kids

877
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: and what what was said about them off the field,

878
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 1: plus even on the field with JaMarcus a lot of fastballs.

879
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know he had a great touch, And I

880
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: will say I gave a big grade to JaMarcus Russell

881
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 1: on the on the field, but this kid has has

882
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: really got the ability to touch it up and make

883
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: some some variety throws. Were you concerned about his abilities

884
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: with a wet ball? Oh? Yeah, the the water bottle.

885
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean I watched that and I'm like, what is

886
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: going on? Are we a little too much sometimes? Pouring

887
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: my take on it is? This was the North Dakota

888
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: State Pro Day. Obviously Carson wentz to the main attraction.

889
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: This is kind of their schools deal. So this is

890
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: the you know, script of workout. Let him go through that.

891
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: If you want to bring all the water bottles and

892
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: do all this stuff you want, If you want to

893
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: have them throw medicine ball instead of a football, schedule

894
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: up your private workout with him and then go do that.

895
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: But it just seems like the workouts over and Alsson

896
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: the Browns come in and they get to call the

897
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: shots on what happens here. This is kind of goofy

898
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: to make. They were the only coaching step there, I

899
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: guess the only head coach there because of weather though too. Yeah,

900
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: it was tough time getting speaks to use commitment just

901
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: driving through. The previous regimes set nobody to pro days

902
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks, so you have to It's good to just

903
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: get someone in there to watch. Do you think he's

904
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: a huge Jackson type of quarterback? I mean, if if

905
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: if he's number two and they take a quarterback, and

906
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: I know, you know, we already talked about Robert Griffin,

907
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: the third is now there, but let's let's still assume

908
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: that there's likely to take one of those two. Do

909
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: you think Golf or Wentz is more of a huge

910
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 1: Jackson style of player. The hard thing is, when you

911
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: have been in the league as long as Hugh Jackson,

912
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: you can make a case for either guy. Right, you

913
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 1: can look at and say he's had Carson Palmer. These

914
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: are all different shapes and sizes and styles of quarterback play.

915
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know that there's one, you know, between

916
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: him and Golf who really fits with Hugh better. I

917
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: just say from having worked for two teams in that division,

918
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: size was always a big deal dus, you know. And

919
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: the interesting thing of that, which you can kind of

920
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 1: contradict yourself, is we need a size to be able

921
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: to hold up physically well. Carson Wentz has been injured

922
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: in his career, and Jared Goff, whose skinnier, hasn't missed

923
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: a start, so that kind of, you know, quells that

924
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,279
Speaker 1: argument a little bit. But I remember Derrick Anderson and

925
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 1: we took and I've told the story a bunch, but

926
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: when we were in Baltimore, we had a choice in

927
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: the sixth round. It was Derrick Anderson and Ryan Fitzpatrick,

928
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: and that was kind of who we're gonna go with

929
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: to be who's going to be our developmental quarterback for

930
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: the future. And uh and I did all the quarterbacks

931
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: that year, and I ended up having Derek over him.

932
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: I thought he's bigger, he's stronger, he's got more upside

933
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: just in terms of his tools that he possesses. So

934
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 1: he fits the FC North a little bit better than

935
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick does. Now, Fitzpatrick did a nice job with the

936
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: Jets last year, but I'll still I mean, maybe a

937
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: lot of money. Maybe it's about the question and when

938
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 1: all these stats, because we had the Wentz Pro Day,

939
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: all these Brown's quarterback stats came up. You know, they're

940
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: win loss record, which doesn't get solely attributed to the

941
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: quarterback Derrick Anderson, when when you stack him up with

942
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: everything they've had in Cleveland, probably the best one that

943
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: they've had. Tweeted out something earlier this year when actually

944
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: last year, when he played well filling in for Cam Newton,

945
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: what would have been wrong if Cleveland hadn't just kept

946
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: Derek Anderson the entire time, that ridiculous shirt with all

947
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: the names just stop at Anderson. It wouldn't have been last.

948
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: But I think when you look at I don't know

949
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: where you guys would stack him up with backup quarterbacks,

950
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: and I think he's one of the best back all right.

951
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: By the way, it's obvious how much DJs the Browns

952
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: are gonna take him. It's funny. It's funny to me

953
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: because you know, look very early on in the process.

954
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: I'm not a jerk, so I don't do it. But

955
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: you almost want to save some of the replies that

956
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: you get on on tweets because when I came up

957
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: with my first one. I think on my first mock draft,

958
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: I had him going to to Cleveland, and then I

959
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 1: have him. He still remained in my seventh overall player

960
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: in the draft, and I got so so much vitriol

961
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: and people lost their minds. And then now it just

962
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: kind of become as we get closer to it's just

963
00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: kind of accepted. You know, even the drafts sarious to me. Um,

964
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 1: all right, DJ, so Mayock has the pound the table, guys,

965
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: that's his phrase. You should be making money, stand on

966
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 1: the table, stand on the table. First of all, do

967
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: you have a phrase? Um, I'm surprised you even can

968
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: say Mayak's name in front of DJ. You know, it's

969
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: like saying schefter around Ian rapidly. I don't know he

970
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: might get along well, I I uh, you know, that's

971
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 1: kind of that's that's total scout speak though. Alright, And

972
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: on the table, who are your guys? Who are you

973
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 1: guys that you love above all guys? I think we

974
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: just talked about what in wins, But is there a

975
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,080
Speaker 1: couple other guys maybe that you absolutely are in love

976
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: with at this time and you want to just I'm

977
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: gonna I've had another quarterback that I've kind of been

978
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: riding throughout the whole process, and I think it's gonna

979
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: be a value guy. I think you get him in

980
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: the third round. Maybe you can even get him in

981
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,959
Speaker 1: the fourth round. Brandon Allen from Arkansas. Everything everybody laughed

982
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: about the hand size and the whole massage deal, and

983
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, that guy. He is a good player. Man.

984
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: When you study him, it's like old miss Mississippi State,

985
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: two really really good opponents. He plays well in those games,

986
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: comes under center in that pro style system at Arkansas,

987
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: which I like the kid. You know. One of the

988
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 1: things Ozzy would always ask in interviews of players, which

989
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: I always took note of. He would always ask, and

990
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: you should do this when you're when you're trying to

991
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: hire people underneath you, guys as you to rise up.

992
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: I'm taking this entire network, um is, what's the toughest

993
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: thing you've ever overcome, you know, personally and in your

994
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: playing career? Because the NFL, if you look at the

995
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: guys that have flamed out, a lot of them never

996
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: had any adversity at all in their life or as

997
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: as a football player, and they couldn't handle. I mean, obviously,

998
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf is kind of the poster child for that right,

999
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: got some adversity, couldn't handle it. Um, you look at

1000
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: Brandon now and somebody who when he was struggling earlier

1001
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: in his career, they egged his his house, that egged

1002
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: his car at Arkansas. I mean, like anything would scare

1003
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: this kid away, just like I'm transferred, I'm not putting

1004
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: up with this anymore. He stuck it out. He stayed

1005
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: their battle through it, and that to me says a

1006
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: lot about who he is. That's like streets back up

1007
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: in Friday Night Lights, that he didn't say his hands

1008
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: was the biggest obstacle and that he's already overcoming. Is that?

1009
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 1: What's that box? Was that Frida Night boxes? Sarence? Oh yeah, Sarence,

1010
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: you're thinking of Varsity Blue like, but Sarence, and how

1011
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: is he pulling those hours? How is he pulling those

1012
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: he ain't taking care of He wants it more. He

1013
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: wants it more than you want more. He certainly wants

1014
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 1: it more than old what's his name? J D. McCoy, Oh,

1015
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: so spoiled the Tasty Freeze? Is that the name of

1016
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: that place? I believe? So we really dipped into fake

1017
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:28,359
Speaker 1: quarterback very quick um, we have a couple of minutes left,

1018
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: I do. Let's ask one more six minutes, six minutes.

1019
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: Let's ask one more question about this this college football

1020
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: game that people enjoy. By the way, I'm just curious.

1021
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: And then I got you, guys, r NFL fans. Let

1022
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: me ask you guys a question. Can we just go

1023
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: around the table and tell me. I know maybe you're

1024
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: not hardcore college fans, but who's your favorite college team?

1025
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,479
Speaker 1: Because I don't know, greg, who's your favorite college teams?

1026
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 1: The closest thing is too lane. You know where I went? Yeah,

1027
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: well the big Sean King I go ahead, and Northeastern

1028
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: disbanded their college teams. So Notre Dame. I grew up

1029
00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: as you were a Notre Dame fan. We got here

1030
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: was I was Notre Dame growing up? Now, I don't.

1031
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: I didn't graduate from many of these places at all.

1032
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: I have no no, no, no nothing. I have no

1033
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: school that I went and transferred like twelve. But my dad,

1034
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: my dad, and I grew up in upstate New York

1035
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,040
Speaker 1: before we moved, and my dad loved Syracuse, so I

1036
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: I stick with him on that one team. Other than

1037
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 1: obviously I grew up. I grew up the USC fan,

1038
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 1: so you're still a Southern California But I want to know. Okay,

1039
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 1: this is curious to me. You have no team that show,

1040
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: you have no team that you roote four. But how

1041
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: about is there a team you enjoy watching lose in

1042
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: college football? No? And I don't want to get too

1043
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 1: heavily into this, but I absolutely fear and loathe the

1044
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: n C double as an institution. Okay, there we go.

1045
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: By the way, he has did uh? He has uh?

1046
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: What you're talking about? Willis Arnold picture on his laptop.

1047
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: That's good. They remembers back when two lane was in

1048
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: the top ten. I can tell you my two lane story.

1049
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: I'll give me a two lane scouting story. Wow. Um.

1050
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: I go to watch JP Lossman and Weldy Moore. They're

1051
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: playing against Navy and uh. When you're when you're scouting quarterbacks,

1052
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: you always want to see him play live and only

1053
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: see him throw the football, but you can see him

1054
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: interact with their teammates. So I'm watching him and uh Man.

1055
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,600
Speaker 1: The first of all, you're a first round quarterback with

1056
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 1: a running back, and I think went in the second

1057
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: round right to this to the Steelers second or you

1058
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: should be able to beat Navy or at least be

1059
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: competitive here. This team one like to Tulane was terrible,

1060
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: and uh he was I wrote down in my notes too.

1061
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: He had all the wrist bands and all was too

1062
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: cool for school, like just this. It was such a

1063
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: bad vibe I got from him from that live game,

1064
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: so I was kind of I was off him. And

1065
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: there's a quarterback in this draft class that I got

1066
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: the exact same vibe on. But I'm not going to

1067
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: tell you who this it was. I'm not saying it's

1068
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: kind of cook. I believe there was the captain and

1069
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: there was a big divide. It was like a story back.

1070
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: There's a big divide on the team. If you love.

1071
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: I gave me Weldy More a big grade. By the way,

1072
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: I like at a fourth round to the Vikings. Is

1073
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: that what it was? I think I like m Weldy

1074
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: Moore any other two lane from Sorry, how much time

1075
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: to have after I have a question three and a

1076
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: half minutes okay, three and a half minute countdown? Where

1077
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: should as Eel Elliott go? Where do you think he's

1078
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: going to go? He's my sixth overall player, So I

1079
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,359
Speaker 1: don't argue with you know, people have talked about any

1080
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: chance he last to the Raiders at four. I think

1081
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: there's a chance. Yeah, I think there's definitely that would

1082
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 1: be a good match. The teams that the Cowboys kind

1083
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: of control this draft, what they do it for can

1084
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 1: kind of really kind of so they could go Joey Bows,

1085
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: so they could go quarterback. That's the whole thing. That's

1086
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,759
Speaker 1: the three the three people, and that will determine kind

1087
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: of what the Senior Bowl to the Cowboys. Yeah, no, exactly.

1088
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,280
Speaker 1: So you look at quarterback, you look at pass rusher,

1089
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: you look at running back, and if they whatever one

1090
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: they don't take could lead to somebody picking after ten, eleven,

1091
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,799
Speaker 1: twelve and that range getting a player they never thought

1092
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: they'd have a shot at. What about this, Do you

1093
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: see anyone guna head jumping up to number one? You

1094
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: know a lot of people were predicting this, but I

1095
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: don't see it because the teams that need you go

1096
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: up to number one only for a quarterback. That's it

1097
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: in this draft class, especially so if you're the Cowboys,

1098
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,239
Speaker 1: you're not gonna trade picks to go up there and

1099
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: get Somebody's gonna sit behind Romo for a couple of years.

1100
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: I've been adamant they should take one at four, but

1101
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: not trading capital to go up there. So take them out.

1102
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: But that means maybe they trade up to San Diego

1103
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: at three to get ahead of Dallas there. Yeah, but

1104
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: all the way up to number one, and then I

1105
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 1: look at San Francisco as another team, and that's just

1106
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 1: not really their style the way they do. They need

1107
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 1: every draft pick the team that the team you can

1108
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 1: make the case for that should If you're gonna trade

1109
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: all the way up there to get a quarterback, is

1110
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: the Rams. You're coming to l A. Maybe you can

1111
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: put a package together of picks and maybe a player too,

1112
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 1: and say we're gonna they go seven and nine, though

1113
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: if they hit up you've heard my you've heard my

1114
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 1: thing on that which I've changed. I just said that

1115
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: they should move to Indianapolis. Five hundred to St. Louis

1116
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 1: is what I used to say, because nothing epitomizes five

1117
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 1: hundred more than the Rams. So but they're moving out here,

1118
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: maybe this will be good for maybe they get over

1119
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: the hump here. The Eagles moved up to number eight

1120
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: report because they see this as like a ten player draft.

1121
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: What do you where's the tier. Where does the tier end?

1122
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: As far as Yourn, I kind of have it a that,

1123
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: uh you know, I have six players plus the two quarterbacks.

1124
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: So I kind of look at it as those eight guys. Um,

1125
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 1: so six position players, you know, outside the quarterback rain

1126
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: and then those two quarterbacks slide in there. Six players

1127
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: are the six players are? We look at Tunsil, Ramsey, Miles,

1128
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: Jack Bossa, de Forrest Buckner, and um gosh, I just

1129
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: got five? Who is my? Who's my? Oh? Ezekiel Elliott.

1130
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: You can check out Daniel Jeremiah's latest mock draft on

1131
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. You can check him out on Path

1132
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: to the Draft six pm Eastern NFL Network. Check out

1133
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: The Move the Sticks podcast with Bucky Brooks is a

1134
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: twice a week or once a week. We do a

1135
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: video the YouTube thing once a week and then the

1136
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: audio deal is twice a week. It's good to see

1137
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 1: you two have put your your differences behind you. The

1138
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: two dance we have we have it took a while,

1139
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:58,319
Speaker 1: actually took some therapy together. Well, he's like, it's look,

1140
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: he's he's like, he's the Mr Drummond to my Todd Bridges. Finally,

1141
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 1: before you go, are you a believer. You see the

1142
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers UFO story, I actually have not. I've been

1143
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: so immersed. He told the story on a podcast that

1144
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: he saw UFO in two thousand five, Um in New Jersey?

1145
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: Do you believe in life beyond us? I do not

1146
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 1: believe in UFOs? Okay, So does that answer your question? Yeah?

1147
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: I think I left the question to open ended. I

1148
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: got banged. I think we're still thrown off by the

1149
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: definition of UFO. Okay for another the next by the way,

1150
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,480
Speaker 1: alien life at the at the show, and then he

1151
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 1: hits me with the UFO question, spend your time wisely

1152
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: a closing shot at me. But I still respect the man.

1153
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: How could you not? Daniel Jeremiah move the sticks off

1154
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: to his next job check and looking good, by the

1155
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: way for a man the Blues, a body still looking great,

1156
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: very fit, save that for the body podcast, very swift,

1157
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: And there he goes, Daniel Jeremiah. What a man. He's

1158
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: on top of the world right now. He is. He's

1159
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 1: very sharp, and it is you know, I, as Greg knows,

1160
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: led to some consternation with Greg and I that you know,

1161
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: I get a little defensive about competing podcasts. But DJ

1162
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: and Bucky. They do their own thing, and they know

1163
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 1: there's stuff everybody should listen to it. If you're like

1164
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: a college fan, DJ knows so much, Like I would

1165
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,920
Speaker 1: love to like get him like tied up in a

1166
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 1: chair and have him drinks truth serum because there's so much.

1167
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: There's things he's telling us, but what he's what he

1168
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: knows about that he's not telling anyone. That's where the

1169
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: goods interesting. Your mind immediately went to tying him up. Well,

1170
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: when someone takes truth serum, right, don't they typically have

1171
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: them like you don't. But taking another man into like

1172
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: a dungeon area, like like a kidnapping scenario for his

1173
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: NFL knowledge. Nothing in the broom closet but one dangling

1174
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: one under white light bulb. Yeah, I mean that's you

1175
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: know we need. It's not a hotness thing trying to

1176
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: get information out of it. Okay, that's it for Thursday's

1177
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: edition to the Around the NFL podcast, Marks, thanks for

1178
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 1: coming back and being a live wire in a big spot.

1179
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 1: Great to see you again, great content. It's good to

1180
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 1: have you back. We will be back next week, uh Monday,

1181
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: maybe Tuesday, we haven't quite decided yet. With a brand

1182
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,480
Speaker 1: new show uh, talking about guess what, the football, but

1183
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: also some other thing, you know, a slice of life types, stuff,

1184
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: a little mirth in there. You never know what we're

1185
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: gonna talk about until then. This is Dan Hands is

1186
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: signing off for quiet Storm. It's not mail Man, that

1187
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: bears no DeVos and the oil has been vowing in

1188
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: the glass until next work. Still one of my favorite

1189
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: at M podcasts, ever, is when he hosted last year

1190
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: Dan when you were out on vacation yea, oh, it's

1191
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: so great. And he opens up and he's like, you know,

1192
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: welcome to Romfield. Hero. It's like you're wondering, You're wondering

1193
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: where Dan Hands is his No, he has been fired.

1194
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: So great. That's is that the last time he was on.

1195
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: I think, oh really, he wasn't on during the whole season. No, right, no,

1196
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't come back after that. That's great.