1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:01,040 Speaker 1: Ron An Indian. 2 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 2: If you're going to do this job, do it right. 3 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 2: That's what this is about. And if you're not going 4 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: to do this job right, didn't get the hell out 5 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 2: of my industry. You're stinking enough the car Doctor. What's 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: probably going on here is you probably have impending coil failure. 7 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron Anian the Car Doctor. 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 11 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. 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If you're looking for me 42 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: during the course of the week, I'll try and answer 43 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: each and every one of my emails. I do each 44 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: and every week, folks, I really do so if you've 45 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 2: got a problem or a question. Need information ron at 46 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: cardoctorshow dot Com. I think about technology, I have to 47 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: enforce to It's the business I'm in. I was reading 48 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 2: a recent issue of AC Delco News and it's titled 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: Looking Ahead Forward Collision Alert Operation and Settings. The FCA 50 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: system Forward Collision Alert is available on many late model 51 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: GM vehicles, ranging from Cadillac to Chevrolet, and is designed 52 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: to help drivers avoid or reduce the harm caused by 53 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 2: front end crashes when approaching a vehicle ahead much too quickly. 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: The FCA system warns driver with a red flashing alert 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: and rapid beeps. And I was thinking about this, and 56 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: I said, hey, this is great. This is technology. Look 57 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: at this. It's going to tell us if we're driving poorly. 58 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 2: But do we need it? I'm wondering if it's a 59 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: depend and see thing. And I just wanted to bring 60 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:06,119 Speaker 2: this up. You know, we spend way too much time 61 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: on the phone, way too much time texting, way too 62 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 2: much time looking at GPS's, and we spend way too 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 2: much I'm doing everything but driving, and I'm wondering if 64 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: somehow technology is making us more dependent and taking away 65 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: the critical thinking skills and reducing our skill level in 66 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: terms of operating a vehicle safely. Are we going to 67 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: become more complacent? Well, you know, the camera didn't warn 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 2: me that there was a car in front of me 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: slowing down, so I wasn't paying attention. I was busy 70 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: texting on my phone. I had the car set on 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 2: crews and the forward camera system didn't come on, and 72 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: I just let the crews run and I was busy 73 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: talking or I looked behind me to see what the 74 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 2: baby was doing, and I had the accident. I'm sorry, 75 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I just wonder if technology is really 76 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: all that it's cracked up to be. And from the 77 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 2: guy that has to fix it every day, I wonder 78 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: about it. But now I'm starting to wonder, you know, 79 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 2: his big brother instilling himself within our our mists, so 80 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: to speak. And I don't know. I don't know if 81 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 2: I want that. I don't know if I want a 82 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: camera telling me I'm driving badly. If I know I'm 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 2: driving badly, then I know I'm driving badly and I 84 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: should really be responsible and you know, take responsibility for 85 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 2: it and try to fix it. Just just some thoughts, 86 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 2: so you know your views and your comments are always appreciated. 87 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 2: Send them to me email Ron at cardoctorshow dot com. 88 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: By the way, this hour, we're gonna be giving away 89 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 2: an LMC truck gift card at twenty five dollars gift 90 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: certificate with either a hat or a T shirt. It's 91 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: a grab bag of sorts from the folks over at 92 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: LMC truck check them out at lmc truck dot com. 93 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: So we'll be giving that away to one lucky caller today, 94 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: and we encourage you, if you are a truck user, 95 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: get out to LMC truck dot com and they're looking 96 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 2: for stories about your vehicles. These people are very passionate 97 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 2: about trucks and SUVs and the like, and they want 98 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 2: to hear your story and how it came to be, 99 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 2: whether it's new or old, so you can find more 100 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 2: if you're trying to restore or just keep that newer vehicle. 101 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: Going LMC truck dot com. The phones are lit up, 102 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: they're backed up. Let's kick open the garage doors and 103 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: welcome Chris from Bergenfield, New Jersey. Some comments and thoughts 104 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: about alternator problems on Volkswagen. Chris, Welcome to the Car Doctor, 105 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 2: Sir How can I help. 106 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 3: I called you about a year ago, okay, and I 107 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 3: had the serpentine belt replaced on it, and this was 108 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 3: this was way before that, and the car started squoaling, 109 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: and the mechanics said it was at tentioner, right, the 110 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 3: tensioner was replaced, it still kept doing it. I took 111 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: it to another mechanic. He replaced attentioner. It still kept 112 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 3: doing it. And I called you and he said he 113 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 3: wasn't sure what it was why it was squealing, which 114 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 3: I guess, as if you're a good mechanic, you should 115 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: be able to find that out. Sure, And you said 116 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 3: it very well could be the alternator bearing in it, 117 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 3: So I told him just replace that, and he replaced 118 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: it technically the alternator's work, but it still kept doing it. 119 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: I also replaced a power steering pump, even though the 120 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 3: only problem problem I was having was with the noise 121 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 3: when I was trying to park. I wasn't having any 122 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: stress steering or anything. But I replaced it anyway, for, 123 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 3: you know, just to waste some money. 124 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, sometimes wasting that money makes you feel good though, 125 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 2: because at least you know you tried. 126 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a it's a diesel and there's a 127 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: there's a mechanic buying me who has a sign outside. 128 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: They specialize in diesel, so I went over there. Of course, 129 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 3: a timing belt is just about time. I have a 130 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 3: right around one hundred and ninety thousand on it, just 131 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 3: curious on what it would cost, if if it could 132 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 3: be a little less than the dealer And I said, 133 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 3: can you just figure out what's what's going on with 134 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: the noise on this thing too? He said it's the 135 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 3: alternator and he swapped it out. And if you look 136 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 3: for the prices of alternators, they vary. And he was saying, 137 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 3: don't buy the junk parts from some of these friends stores. 138 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 3: He says, he will not buy parts from them. And 139 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: I saw them going from like one fifty to like 140 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 3: four hundred dollars. Well, he bought the expense of one. 141 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: It is silent, right, That was it all along? 142 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 2: So it was a bad new alternator. 143 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, technically it works. 144 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: Right, but it was just noisy. 145 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, And he told me to take it back to 146 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 3: the first mechanic and tell him that he should be 147 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 3: able to get his money back for it. 148 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, and you know I say this to suppliers 149 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 2: all the time. You know, they come in, they want 150 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: me to buy the cheaper line. They want me to 151 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: buy the less expensive part because you know, they I 152 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: think their margins are higher because they're cheaper, and there's 153 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 2: they're they're more likely to sell more of those. Let's 154 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: face it, more people are probably buying cheap parts today 155 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 2: than they are buying expensive ones. And they're just trying 156 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 2: to make a number. But you know, we're, like I've 157 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 2: been saying, I've been saying this for a while, Chris, 158 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 2: We're at a parts race to the bottom. And you know, 159 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: it's all about how cheap can we make something, how 160 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: much money can we make on it, how much money 161 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 2: can we steal from the American public but not produce 162 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: a product that works. And it's a dangerous line and 163 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 2: it's a dangerous way of thinking. And you're just gonna 164 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: see more and more of it that it's a lot 165 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: like our society. I really believe that. You know, you 166 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: see the lines of the haves and the have nots increasing, 167 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: You're gonna see the lines of good parts and bad 168 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 2: parts increasing as it's going to become very decisive. If 169 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: you want good parts, it's it's four times the amount. 170 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 2: If you want to just get by with noisy, crummy 171 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: parts that kind of work but maybe not last as 172 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: long as they should. Well, it's this, and it's it's 173 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 2: it's gonna be a problem. It is, but there you go, 174 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 2: new never ever worked. Couldn't say it any better. 175 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 4: Yep. 176 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: So yeah, and and he and the one mechanic who 177 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 3: bought that part. He was telling me that he has 178 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: gotten bad water pumps. And he said the whole deal's 179 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 3: a wash. He sayss got to do the whole thing 180 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: over again. 181 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: Well, and the part I don't get is, you know, 182 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: one of the one of the biggest mistakes mechanics make 183 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: is they don't value their time, so they'll attempt to 184 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: sell their customer a cheaper job. Hey, I can be 185 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 2: cheaper than the next guy, because I don't want you 186 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 2: to come in here based on my talent. I want 187 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,119 Speaker 2: you to come in here based on my price. And 188 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 2: because of that, he buys the cheaper part. So the 189 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 2: parts house think it's okay to sell the cheaper part, 190 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 2: and they just perpetuate the problem. You know. In nineteen 191 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 2: eighty six, I'll take you guys back real quick for 192 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 2: a history lesson. In nineteen eighty six, General motors came 193 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: out with touch screen dashboards. Does anybody remember this? Buick, 194 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: Rivieras and Pontiacs and the like, they all had touch 195 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 2: screen dashboards. Crt screen dashboards. They were terrible. They were 196 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: so bad because people were people were having accidents. They're 197 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: driving along, they want to change the radio station or 198 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: the temperature control. They'd look down, they'd hit the touch 199 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: screen and there they would be. It would be such 200 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: distres active driving. They were losing people just hitting cars 201 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 2: or hitting trees. Literally to the point that I remember 202 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: when the model year came to an end nineteen eighty six, 203 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: the leftovers and the dealer lots, it just looked like 204 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: they had new cars to sell, but it was all 205 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 2: the ones they were trying to return or they couldn't 206 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: get rid of that they had to take off the 207 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 2: line because the eighty sevens were coming out. And my 208 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: point is if more people got together and said enough, 209 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 2: we're not buying any more junk parts, you would see 210 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: a major change in the in the in a shift 211 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: in the way that we approach order repair in this 212 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 2: country and the way people would think. And you know, 213 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 2: I still have hope for humanity, Chris, I really do 214 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: I think if you show them the right way, I 215 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 2: think people just go. 216 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 3: It seems like they will just go ten to save 217 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: one hundred fifty dollars or something and. 218 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: Get the right and get the cheaper part, and then 219 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: it's a problem. And I just I think if you 220 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,439 Speaker 2: show people the right way, you know, teach a man 221 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 2: to fish, and he'll he'll feed himself forever. And you know, 222 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 2: it just it just doesn't make any sense. Chris, I 223 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: I I'm glad you know, And I don't say that 224 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 2: I don't. You know, it's nice to get confirmation, but 225 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: I'm glad it worked out for you, and you know, 226 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: I just it was the only logical thought that went 227 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 2: through my head at the time. And sometimes you just 228 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 2: got to stick to your guns. Listen, how do you 229 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 2: think I feel. I'll diagnose a problem in the shop 230 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 2: and I'll buy a good part, and every once in 231 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: a while I get a bad new good part. It's 232 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: got to be the part, and it'll tear me up 233 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: for two days, and I'll prove it seven different ways. 234 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 2: It's a bad new part that's top of the line 235 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: best there is. Finally I break down, I order another 236 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: one and I was right. It was a bad new 237 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: good part doesn't happen. That often doesn't happen nearly with 238 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: the with the you know, commonality of older parts, but 239 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: the or the cheaper parts. But it does happen. Chris, 240 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 2: I gotta go. The clock's gonna take me. I appreciate 241 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: the call, sir. 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So let's go forward. 265 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: Let's get over and talk to David in Genesee, Idaho, 266 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: with some questions about a nineteen ninety nine GMC suburban. David, 267 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? 268 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: Well? Thanks, Ron, really please to talk to you. 269 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 2: Oh thank you, sir. 270 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: You've helped me solve a number of problems through the 271 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 4: years just by listening to your show. But anyway, I 272 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: have two three quarter tons suburbans, the ninety three and 273 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 4: ninety nine. The ninety three the breaks have always been great, 274 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,080 Speaker 4: and on the ninety nine they've always been poor. I 275 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 4: bought the ninety nine US. I can't say what they 276 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 4: were like new, but the ninety nine has a little 277 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 4: different style ABS system on it than the ninety three, 278 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 4: and I've read a lot of negative things about that 279 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 4: particular ABS system on the internet, and of course you 280 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 4: know who knows how accurate that is. But I'm actually 281 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 4: the point where I'm thinking about bypassing the ABS unit 282 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: and installing an adjustable proportioning valve just so I have 283 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 4: regular brakes. The brakes are just that bad on it. 284 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: I can go out and there's no codes. I can 285 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 4: go out in my pasture where I can hit the 286 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 4: brakes hard and you can hear the ABS working. The 287 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 4: front wheels you know, you won't won't slide, you can 288 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 4: hear it working, but the back breaks just don't seem 289 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 4: to ever do very much. And I wondered if that 290 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: was just the nature of that particular ABS system, or 291 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: if I replaced it with a new one, would it 292 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: work okay or what? 293 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 2: It's always nice to try and design something the way 294 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: you want, all right, I mean, let's start the conversation there. 295 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: This is a big block truck, David, yeah seven, So 296 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 2: it's nose heavy. 297 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: Full floating rear in it has the thirteen inch rear 298 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: brake shoes three and a half inches wide passive break shoes. 299 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, it's a massive brake system. I wonder, 300 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: what would happen is the ABS light on on the dashboard? No, okay, 301 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: So I wonder what would happen if we created a 302 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: problem like unplugged the wheel speed sensor, turn alturn on 303 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: the ABS light and give you functional normal brakes. I wonder. 304 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 4: I actually had read about that, and I did that 305 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 4: last summer. I guess it was and it seemed like 306 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 4: it was a little better, but it's still like a 307 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 4: soft pedal feel, right, And I've read that it's hard 308 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: to get the air out of the ABS system if 309 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 4: you get air in there. So I took it to 310 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 4: my local break slash transformation shop and they had the 311 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: snap on scan tool to activate the right because if. 312 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: The bubbles get if the bubbles get trapped in there, 313 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 2: that's a problem. 314 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, right, And that may have helped minimally, but it's 315 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: still you know, the ninety three suburban, the brake pedals firm. 316 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 4: Maybe you hit it and you've got brakes and this 317 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 4: I've actually in a couple of times when I was 318 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: trying to stop Quick pushed the pedal clear to the floor. 319 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: Is is the ninety nine a hydroboost system? David, is it? Yeah? 320 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: They both are, they both are. You know, I'm kind 321 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 2: of tempted to try and diagnose the ninety nine before 322 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: I make changes to it. I mean, I'm sure you can. 323 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: I'm sure you can bypass the brakes and make it conventional, 324 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: and I would just hate to see you do that 325 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: and then end up with, you know, the same crummy 326 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: brake pedal, so to speak. So you know, what I 327 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: want to know is do we have a do we 328 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: have an issue with the master or is the problem 329 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 2: in the ABS controller itself? Ultimately, yeah, then you know, 330 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: at two hundred and twenty thousand miles, maybe you do 331 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 2: come out the way to bypass it. So what I'll 332 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 2: actually do is I will at times, I will i 333 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: will make up plugs, and I've got an assortment of 334 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: brake line plugs, different sizes, different fittings where I've I've 335 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 2: I've peaned over and sweated the ends shut. Or I'll 336 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: find brass plugs that fit the master, and I'll just 337 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 2: block off the master and step on the brake pedal. 338 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 4: Oh got yea right, Okay. 339 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: It's got to be right there. If it's not right there, 340 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: I've got a bad master, right. 341 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 4: Now, I did change the master cylinder at one point 342 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 4: with no obvious change, and of course I know new 343 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 4: parts sometimes aren't any good either, but that's a good 344 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 4: I hadn't tried that, and that's something I will try. 345 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 4: And I don't mind spending the money to replace the 346 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 4: ABS system. If somebody could tell me, yeah, when you're done, 347 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 4: you're going to have really good breaks. I just haven't 348 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 4: talked to anybody who has been able to give me 349 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 4: any confidence that that would happen. 350 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 2: Right, And then the other question I've got is if 351 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 2: you apply the parking break and pump the pedal a 352 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: couple of times, does that change it? If I crimp 353 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: off the breakcods to the rear brakes, does that change it? 354 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,160 Speaker 2: Where does the mush for lack of a better way 355 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 2: to put it occur. And you know, that's really what 356 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: you've got to start to diagnose, David. The clock's gonna 357 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: take me, but you know what, I want to try 358 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 2: and help you if I can. We're going to be 359 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 2: sending the LMC Truck Prize your way at twenty five 360 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 2: dollars gift card with either a hat or a T shirt. 361 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: So stay on the line. Harry's gonna get your information 362 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 2: and maybe you'll find something in their product line that 363 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: might actually help you with this break problem or something 364 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 2: else that interests you. But by all means, get out 365 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 2: to mc truck dot com. They've got the stuff to 366 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 2: help guys like you with your trucks. And if you 367 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: need me during the week, send me an email Ron 368 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: at cardocorshow dot com. We'll be back right after this