Speaker 1: Check it down, then.
Speaker 2: H no down, then the numbers told the story.
Speaker 1: Now always down.
Speaker 2: It's one of those idiots will believe in the analytics.
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Speaker 2: Live from Bar Candidate at the d Downtown Kill Alexander,
Speaker 2: Kelly Bidlin. It is a Monday, it is football season.
Speaker 2: It is guessing lines. I've been in the cocoon, though
Speaker 2: not with Chrissy anymore, as you know. Not Chrissy's choice,
Speaker 2: not my choice. By the way, we have the empty
Speaker 2: chair for Chrissy. Can we show that as well? Rather
Speaker 2: than that that's Grissy right there as it is. That's
Speaker 2: where we should be, right there, Kelly. We're gonna give
Speaker 2: it a go. Though, we're gonna do our recaps, We're
Speaker 2: gonna give our guesses. You're gonna tell me what the
Speaker 2: line is, and for you the listener, this is still
Speaker 2: an interactive experience where you can guess along. Really a
Speaker 2: great way to start your handicapping. Boy oh boy, preseason
Speaker 2: week number four. That was rough. Wait what those counted?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well said we saw. We said that about
Speaker 1: Thursday night. The whole weekend felt that way. That's finny.
Speaker 2: I said the same thing last year. I was like, boy,
Speaker 2: we're preseason. Week four was something else.
Speaker 1: Oh it counts how many like quarterback fumbles, exchanges? Like
Speaker 1: just really, especially those early games yesterday. We will get
Speaker 1: to every single game in week number two, Survivor. Let's
Speaker 1: just start there real quick. Twenty one point four to two.
Speaker 2: Percent of all Circle Survivor entries bounced. I had one
Speaker 2: of my five bounds. I'm right in line. Uh so
Speaker 2: that means I'm a survivor. Hit it. No, it wasn't
Speaker 2: on top. Well, we're in mid season four.
Speaker 1: I won't drop no, not yet.
Speaker 2: The biggest culprit for Survivor entries was the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 2: Over a thousand of the total, nine two d and
Speaker 2: sixty seven entries were on the minnisol so to Vikings.
Speaker 2: The Seahawks were the next biggest culprit six hundred entries
Speaker 2: on the Seahawks and thirty one non submits Kelly thirty
Speaker 2: one entries not submitting racers A thirty one thousand dollars
Speaker 2: donation off the top. You know, I hesitate to sort
Speaker 2: of laugh because you never know, right, you never know
Speaker 2: what the circumstances are. Maybe there were deaths in the family,
Speaker 2: Maybe the person who bought them passed away between then
Speaker 2: and now. I don't know. They've got life in their way.
Speaker 2: You know, things happen.
Speaker 1: Things happen thirty one thirty one times. I don't know
Speaker 1: if things happened thirty one times.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, we'll get to everything every little nuance
Speaker 2: from week number one as we do week number two.
Speaker 2: Let's start with Thursday night. What do we got?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Thursday night guessing the lines? We started up Vikings
Speaker 1: at the Eagles eight fifteen Easters.
Speaker 2: And again, for those who are new, we've done this
Speaker 2: for thirteen years. The whole point of this exercise, I
Speaker 2: don't know what the line is. I will guess what
Speaker 2: I believe the line is. Kelly will tell me what
Speaker 2: it is. Chrissy used to do that, and then we'll
Speaker 2: sort of see if there is some betting to exploit
Speaker 2: within that process. So what is it again? Minnesota at
Speaker 2: Minnesota at philipdesk Al Right, let's start with the Vikings.
Speaker 2: The Vikings yesterday lose, as we just talked about, the
Speaker 2: biggest Survivor culprit for those in Circus Survivor and probably nationwide.
Speaker 2: They lose to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers outright second drive
Speaker 2: of the game. They lose by the way twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 2: They were about the third biggest favorite on the board yesterday.
Speaker 2: Vikings second drive, third and two of the Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: twenty six eight twenty three left first quarter scoreless. Game.
Speaker 2: Cousins fumbles on the snap exchange. Tampa Bay's Joe Tryon
Speaker 2: shoy Inca recovers. The next Vikings drive didn't come to
Speaker 2: hurt him on that first one. The next Vikings drive,
Speaker 2: same thing, another era third and six of the Minnesota
Speaker 2: thirty five h four left first quarter still scoreless. Cousin
Speaker 2: sacked by Antoine Winfield Junior. Winfield recovers at the Minnesota eighteen,
Speaker 2: but the Vikings d holds the Bucks to a three
Speaker 2: and out. The Bucks center for a Chase mclauchlam thirty
Speaker 2: six yard field goal three to nothing Tampa Bay that
Speaker 2: turned out to be the margin of victory. Vikings finally
Speaker 2: put it together second quarter. They go eighty three yards
Speaker 2: on their first possess of the frame, Cousins of Jordan
Speaker 2: Addison from thirty nine out seven to three. Minnesota yet
Speaker 2: a ten to ten game. After a Mayfield to Evans
Speaker 2: twenty eight yard touchdown pass, tied up with one h
Speaker 2: nine left in the half, the Vikings quickly went sixty
Speaker 2: two yards downfield in a ten to ten games. Second
Speaker 2: in one of the Tampa Bay thirteen with twenty three
Speaker 2: seconds left in the half, Cousins picked by Christian Izzian
Speaker 2: and it goes into the locker room. We go into
Speaker 2: the locker room, tied at ten apiece at halftime, and
Speaker 2: this is such an on brand Minnesota Vikings game and experience.
Speaker 2: At halftime Cousins twenty two of twenty nine for two
Speaker 2: seventy three, one touchdown, one pick, two fumbles lost, Jefferson
Speaker 2: seven for one thirty eight. Third quarter Bucks open up
Speaker 2: with what looked to be a field goal mcglalklin from
Speaker 2: thirty one, but after Evans had dropped by the way
Speaker 2: what might have been a would be touchdown on the
Speaker 2: previous play, but the Vikings jumped off side, so the
Speaker 2: Bucks get a new set of downs instead of the
Speaker 2: field goal. They take that off the board. They are
Speaker 2: set up with the first and goal at eight, third
Speaker 2: and goal at the seven, Mayfield to Trey Palmer touchdown,
Speaker 2: Bucks up seventeen to ten, and you're like, oh man,
Speaker 2: this could happen. Vikings, though, went seventy five yards Cousin
Speaker 2: of Madison from four out seventeen seventeen thirteen thirty seven
Speaker 2: left in the ball game. Team straight punts Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: fourth and one at their own thirty two with eight
Speaker 2: eighteen left. Mayfield barely converts, eventually leads to McLaughlin fifty
Speaker 2: seven yarder fifty seven, twenty to seventeen Tampa Bay. Then
Speaker 2: the Vikings held to a three and out. They punt
Speaker 2: on fourth and seven from their own twenty eight with
Speaker 2: four to zho three left. They would never see the
Speaker 2: football again. Baker converting a third and two with his feet,
Speaker 2: third and ten to Chris Godwin with two minutes left
Speaker 2: to seal the deal. Bucks win at twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 2: Cousins finishes thirty three to forty four for three forty four,
Speaker 2: two touchdowns, one interception, two fumbles lost, sack twice Jefferson
Speaker 2: nine for one to fifty thirty one combined third down
Speaker 2: attempts in this games that kind of game. But the
Speaker 2: Vikings were outgained or excuse me, they outgained Tampa Bay,
Speaker 2: I should say, three sixty nine to two forty two.
Speaker 2: They outgained him in passing yards three twenty eight to
Speaker 2: one sixty nine, but they were minus three in turnovers,
Speaker 2: and as I said, that led to three Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: points the eventual margin of victory. Philadelphia. On the other hand,
Speaker 2: those of us who had them in against the spread
Speaker 2: and contest at in actual bets, we probably got super
Speaker 2: super duper fortunate. Looked like it was going to be
Speaker 2: easy peasy, but my goodness. Uh. Opening drive, Eagles matriculate
Speaker 2: the ball down the field, but a third and goal
Speaker 2: from the six Matthew Jodon Sachs Jalen Hurts Elliott thirty
Speaker 2: two yard field goal. The Eagles settle for three to
Speaker 2: nothing lead. Seventh play in suing drive, Jones throws high
Speaker 2: and tended to Kendrick Bourne off his hands into the
Speaker 2: hands of Darius Slay seventy yards of the house, ten
Speaker 2: to nothing. Billy first play. Subsequent drive, Zeke Elliott first
Speaker 2: carry is a Patriot, tackled by Jordan Davis, bumbles recovered
Speaker 2: by Zach Cunningham at the New England twenty six. Four
Speaker 2: plays later, spurred on by a defensive hole that negated
Speaker 2: a sack hurts DeVante Smith from five out, sixteen to nothing, Eagles,
Speaker 2: Elliot misses the pat We're still in the first quarter.
Speaker 2: Two thirty nine left, Patriots three and out, Eagles three
Speaker 2: and out, Patriots three and out, Eagles three and out,
Speaker 2: Patriots three and out, Eagles three and out. Then the
Speaker 2: Pats go seventy one yards Jones to Hunter Henry from
Speaker 2: nine out sixteen to seven Philly four thirty four left
Speaker 2: in the second quarter, and you're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: what's happening here? Eagles three and out, Pats go sixty
Speaker 2: three yards, masterfully engineered by Mack Jones. Jones to Kendrick
Speaker 2: Bourn from nineteen out sixteen to fourteen, twenty five seconds left,
Speaker 2: and New England gets the ball first in the second half,
Speaker 2: but three and half Pats to start their third quarter drive.
Speaker 2: The Eagles end up with a field goal nineteen to fourteen.
Speaker 2: Then New England drives to the Philly twenty seven, but
Speaker 2: two holding calls on New England and the span of
Speaker 2: three plays forces them to punt, Eagles come back down
Speaker 2: forty eight yard Elliott field goal that jointd In off
Speaker 2: the upright twenty two to fourteen Philly with thirteen twenty left.
Speaker 2: Remember the spread is, you know, anywhere between three and
Speaker 2: a half and four and a half for folks. Here.
Speaker 2: Patriots convert a fourth and eight on the subsequent drive
Speaker 2: from the Philly thirty six Mac to Henry for twelve,
Speaker 2: but then fourth and three from the Philly seventeen with
Speaker 2: nine thirty nine left down eight Mac incomplete intended for Zeke.
Speaker 2: Did you have a problem with Bill Belichick going for
Speaker 2: that there nine thirty nine left down eight?
Speaker 1: Uh no, I didn't en that one. Not a huge problem.
Speaker 2: I didn't either. Some people do. Some people are well.
Speaker 2: Because it's Bill Belichick, we don't hold him to the
Speaker 2: fire on that. I had no problem with it. Eagles
Speaker 2: drive for another field goal Elliott from fifty one. He
Speaker 2: was great yesterday, at least beyond the missed extra point
Speaker 2: twenty five to fourteen Philly with five thirty three left.
Speaker 2: Then it got even more machugun of Pat's march downfield.
Speaker 2: In under two minutes, they go seventy five yards Mac
Speaker 2: to Bourne from eleven out Mac to Remandre with a
Speaker 2: lot of yak on a thirty two yard game being
Speaker 2: the big play, but with three thirty seven left, the
Speaker 2: would be two point conversion run from Jones is nullified.
Speaker 2: Trying to get the game to three nullified by a hold,
Speaker 2: and then New England fails to convert the conversion from
Speaker 2: the eight twenty five to twenty Philly first play from scrimmage,
Speaker 2: though on the subsequent drive for the Eagles three thirty
Speaker 2: five left, Hertz rushes for eight hit by Jabrill Peppers
Speaker 2: Marcus Jones recovers. New England takes over at the Philadelphia
Speaker 2: forty one with three twenty eight left, but they go
Speaker 2: backwards on a Jordan Davis Josh Sweat sack of Jones
Speaker 2: at the delay of game call in complete. On fourth
Speaker 2: and seventeen, Philly takes over again. New England still has
Speaker 2: the two minute warning and all three timeouts, though Philly
Speaker 2: takes over with two twenty left at home at their
Speaker 2: own forty eight. Eagles fourth and two at the New
Speaker 2: England forty four two minutes left up five What do
Speaker 2: you do? What do you do? Well? The Eagles decided
Speaker 2: to go for it incomplete intended for DeVante Smith. Did
Speaker 2: you have a problem with them going for it fourth
Speaker 2: and two in that situation?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Yes, that one I did a little bit.
Speaker 2: Pat's takeover with one fifty seven left, one time out left,
Speaker 2: needing a touchdown, they get to ball the philadel They
Speaker 2: get the ball all the way to the Philadelphia nineteen
Speaker 2: with one oh two left, nineteen yards away, but incomplete pass.
Speaker 2: Then a Jalen Carter sack, Then a two yard game
Speaker 2: to Stevenson and fourth and eleven where Kai Shan Boutique
Speaker 2: couldn't get his second foot in ball game. Eagles win
Speaker 2: and cover easy, peasy, as you said, twenty five to
Speaker 2: twenty never in doubt. Hurts twenty two for thirty three
Speaker 2: for one seventy one touchdowns, no picks, sacked three times
Speaker 2: nine for thirty seven on the ground. With that fumble lost,
Speaker 2: He's won eighteen of his last nineteen regular season starts.
Speaker 2: They were outgained. The Eagles were by the Patriots three
Speaker 2: eighty two to two fifty one. Nick Sirianni after the
Speaker 2: game quote, I'll definitely reevaluate some of the preseason stuff
Speaker 2: next year. Maybe I should have played Hurts a series
Speaker 2: or two this preseason. I already wrote that in my notes.
Speaker 2: You know, second thought, if I had to do it
Speaker 2: again over again right now, I'd say, yeah, I would
Speaker 2: have played Star one or two drives in the preseason.
Speaker 2: So Nick Sirianni lamenting the performance of his angles of
Speaker 2: his Eagles. All that being said, Minnesota at Philly, Minnesota
Speaker 2: was the most on brand performance ever. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 2: Baltimore and Minnesota both had like really on brand performances yesterday,
Speaker 2: Minnesota in defeat, Baltimore in victory. I'll say, Philly minus seven,
Speaker 2: this probably has to be that, right, no other number.
Speaker 1: We are seven and a half on Philly, seven and.
Speaker 2: A half with the hook, with the hook with the hook,
Speaker 2: which I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that, I think you're right. I
Speaker 1: think it would have to be seven. With Vikings dropping
Speaker 1: that game yesterday, it might be enough just to push
Speaker 1: it over to seven and a half.
Speaker 2: Are you worried about the Eagles or was that just
Speaker 2: rust like Sirianni was talking.
Speaker 1: That was a weird game to me, I don't really know.
Speaker 1: I thought Patriots probably should have won that game. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had nine lives at the end of the Eagles. That
Speaker 1: was for anybody he had was holding three and a
Speaker 1: half like you and I were. I had a buddy
Speaker 1: complaining he went four to one in the circu contest
Speaker 1: with the Eagles went.
Speaker 2: I went four and one, he went three and two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was complaining, didn't get five and oh. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: you have the Eagles. They're like, come on, man, we
Speaker 1: used to be happy. Right now we're four and one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll take the three and two and all. I'll
Speaker 2: happily go away with that, or three and two by
Speaker 2: the way, or a Steve Eszick says, well, you're out
Speaker 2: of the quarter right, You have no shadow when in
Speaker 2: a quarterly you're done. So seven and a half huh, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't have a huge problem with.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seven and a half, and it is seven and
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, almost everywhere I do see one eight
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not racing to the counter behind us to
Speaker 2: bet Minnesota by the way plus seven and a half, because, uh,
Speaker 2: we know how these how this goes with Minnesota. Minnesota
Speaker 2: and the Giants the most fraudulent teams last year, and
Speaker 2: OI did it start that way for both week number
Speaker 2: one in the NFL. So what we do Yeah, the
Speaker 2: recaps become smaller as the show goes on because we
Speaker 2: have covered everything. But we'll do this into Sunday, starting
Speaker 2: after the break. Guessing lines on a numbers game these
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Speaker 2: Back on a numbers game live here at bar Canada
Speaker 2: at the Degail Alexander Kelly Bidlin guessing some lines on
Speaker 2: a Monday morning for week number two. Just a couple
Speaker 2: of other random thoughts. On week one, all five new
Speaker 2: head coaches taking a loss. Shane Steichen with Indianapolis, Jonathan
Speaker 2: Gannon with Arizona, Sean Payton with the Broncos, new to
Speaker 2: a team that is Reich, Frank Reich with Carolina, and
Speaker 2: Demiko Ryans with the Houston Texans. All my season longs
Speaker 2: look good after one week anyway, ever, Flus first to
Speaker 2: get fired, Lafleora coach of the year, all season under
Speaker 2: on the Giants, all season over on the Commodores. What
Speaker 2: else did I have there? There was one more in
Speaker 2: there I can't remember. Now we'll get to we'll figure
Speaker 2: it out. Oh and the other thing, just another observation,
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley. Remember how much crap everybody gave him two
Speaker 2: years ago when he started playing games differently from everybody
Speaker 2: else and going forward on fourth down from everywhere on
Speaker 2: the field. Do we not owe him a collective apology now?
Speaker 2: Because everybody plays the game this way. Now. Now, you
Speaker 2: could say what you will about his defense sucking in
Speaker 2: him being a defensive coach, that's valid. But the point
Speaker 2: about him being somehow this reckless person, they all play
Speaker 2: his way now, everybody.
Speaker 1: And we're all look, no matter whether it's him or
Speaker 1: any coach in the NFL, we're still going to have
Speaker 1: gripes about when they decided to go first things. But
Speaker 1: that's like you said, everybody's doing things that they would
Speaker 1: have never done if he didn't start.
Speaker 2: Doing it anygever. Yeah, all right, let's go to Sunday morning.
Speaker 1: What you got Sunday first up? Packers at the Falcons
Speaker 1: one o'clock eastern.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a barn burner right there. I will say it.
Speaker 2: How many times this offseason did we say, why y'all
Speaker 2: so sure Jordan Love's gonna stink? Because I'm not the
Speaker 2: whole clipboard speech I used to give Green Bay beats
Speaker 2: the Bears and beats him big opening drive for the Bears.
Speaker 2: It started with this a fourth and one let their
Speaker 2: own forty. Speaking of that, and Eberflus decides we're gonna
Speaker 2: go for it justin field stuff for no game eleven play.
Speaker 2: Forty yard drive for the Packers starts it out, ending
Speaker 2: in an eight yard touchdown pass from Jordan Love to
Speaker 2: Romeo Dobbs seven to Zhing green Bay. Love also converted
Speaker 2: a third and thirteen of thirteen yards and Dobs on
Speaker 2: that drive field goal fest the rest of the half.
Speaker 2: It's ten to six green Bay. Now. The Packers take
Speaker 2: the opening second half drive seventy five yards a big
Speaker 2: Love to Jones fifty one yard pass play the key.
Speaker 2: Jones eventually in from one seventeen to six green Bay,
Speaker 2: and after Chicago three and out, green Bay goes fifty
Speaker 2: eight most on a thirty five yard touchdown pass and
Speaker 2: catch from Love to Jones twenty four to six green
Speaker 2: Bay six. Twenty two left to the third quarter, and
Speaker 2: the route was on, it seemed, but Jones grabbed his
Speaker 2: hammy on the way in. That ain't good. Next drive
Speaker 2: for the Bears, third and three at their own eighteen
Speaker 2: fields gets the ball poked out by Kenny Clark, recovered
Speaker 2: by Rasoul Douglas, but an unnecessary roughness called on to
Speaker 2: green Bay backed them up just enough so that a
Speaker 2: three and out resulted in a punt. And then when
Speaker 2: the Bears won sixty five yards feels darn now Mooney
Speaker 2: for twenty yard touchdown, two point conversion from Khalil Herbert.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden in the closing minute of the
Speaker 2: third quarter, it's twenty four to fourteen, and you're like,
Speaker 2: good the comeback beyond, but no fourth quarter first and
Speaker 2: tend the Chicago forty one for green Bay fourteen twenty
Speaker 2: one left. Love drops the ball, picks it up off
Speaker 2: the turf, hits a wide open Luke Musgrave for thirty seven.
Speaker 2: Next play Love to Romeo Dobson four out thirty one
Speaker 2: to fourteen green Bay. And then third play next drive
Speaker 2: fields staring down as receiver like look at him right
Speaker 2: in the eye. He hits Quay Walker in the chest.
Speaker 2: There's one problem Kway Walker plays for the green Bay Packers.
Speaker 2: That ain't good. Amazing runback by the Way forty two
Speaker 2: yards of the house, thirty eight to fourteen Green Bay
Speaker 2: ballgame with twelve thirty six left Love fifteen of twenty
Speaker 2: seven for two forty five in his opening game here
Speaker 2: of the season. Three touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked
Speaker 2: only once Aaron Jones nine for forty one on the
Speaker 2: ground in a touchdown, two catches for eighty six, but
Speaker 2: again he heard his hamstring on that final score. Green
Speaker 2: Bay was plus two in turnovers, the pick six putting
Speaker 2: the final nail in the coffin for Cargo early fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: And then there was Atlanta. By the way, green Bay
Speaker 2: wins that game thirty eight to twenty in the end.
Speaker 2: Then there was Atlanta. Atlanta wins their game against the
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers, but man was Atlanta bad. They win at
Speaker 2: twenty four to ten after a three and out on offense.
Speaker 2: This is early in the game. They allowed Bryce Young
Speaker 2: and the Panthers to matriculate down the field fourth and
Speaker 2: one at the Atlanta eleven. Was six fourteen left in
Speaker 2: the first quarter. Chewba Hubbard stopped for a one yard
Speaker 2: loss by Trey Flowers. Second Panthers drive, second and sixteen
Speaker 2: at their own eight. Bryce Young picked by Jesse Bates
Speaker 2: the third. Three plays later, first of the second quarter,
Speaker 2: ritterd of Bijan Nice nifty moves into the endz on
Speaker 2: eleven yard touchdown seven and nothing Falcon. Second quarter, Panthers
Speaker 2: go seventy five yards, fifty one of them on Bryce
Speaker 2: Young passes Young to Hayden Hurst from four out seven
Speaker 2: to seven. Falcons seventy four yards of total offense in
Speaker 2: the first half in a seven to seven game. Third
Speaker 2: quarter after the Panthers won up ten to seven on
Speaker 2: an Eddy Pinero forty three yard field goal. Next time,
Speaker 2: Carolina got the ball third and six at the Carolina
Speaker 2: forty with six forty eight left, Young picked again by
Speaker 2: Baits that led to a young hey coup forty nine
Speaker 2: yard field goal ten to ten, and then Carolina as
Speaker 2: it first in fifteen at the Atlanta forty nine, two
Speaker 2: twenty nine left in the third quarter, tie ball game.
Speaker 2: Miles Sanders hit by d Alfred fumbles Lorenzo Carter recovers
Speaker 2: seven plays later. Second of the fourth quarter, Algier in
Speaker 2: from three seventeen to ten Falcons fourteen to twelve left,
Speaker 2: Panthers punt, Falcons punt, Panthers punt, then a Falcons fifty
Speaker 2: six yard drive ending with another Algier three yard touchdown
Speaker 2: rush twenty four to ten, the eventual final score as
Speaker 2: the Falcons would never truly threatened. In the last quarter
Speaker 2: and a half of this game, Ritter Desmond Ridder ends
Speaker 2: up fifteen of eighteen for one point fifteen in victory,
Speaker 2: one touchdown, no picks. He was sacked four times. The
Speaker 2: Falcons could only muster thirteen first downs in this game
Speaker 2: and only two hundred twenty one total yards. They were
Speaker 2: plus three in turnovers. That's the whole story of the game,
Speaker 2: led directly to seventeen Falcons points. And again, while we
Speaker 2: talk about in the NBA, if you could just show
Speaker 2: me three point percentage marks in the box score, I
Speaker 2: can tell you who won ninety percent of the games NFL,
Speaker 2: it's all about the turn horse. I this is lazy,
Speaker 2: but I say to pick them out.
Speaker 1: You're close. It's Green Bay one, Green Bay one for
Speaker 1: this game, so you are certainly close. And yeah, that
Speaker 1: game yesterday with at one point Ritter at Burrow, We're
Speaker 1: battling back and forth for who could have the lowest
Speaker 1: yardage of the day. It was looking pretty pathetic at
Speaker 1: one point, but I mean the guy ends up being
Speaker 1: that efficient. The running games working you just like you said,
Speaker 1: that whole game was turnovers. But when you project forward
Speaker 1: in the NFC South. Can that be good enough to win?
Speaker 1: It might be you have a running game and play
Speaker 1: some defense.
Speaker 2: What's next?
Speaker 1: Up next, We've got to one o'clock Eastern Sunday. Raiders
Speaker 1: at the Bills. All right, Bill's sight unseen. They play
Speaker 1: the Jets tonight. You have any play on tonight's game
Speaker 1: of the way. I do not nothing tonight, but if
Speaker 1: this number keeps coming down, I'll be on the Bills.
Speaker 1: All right.
Speaker 2: Raiders yesterday get their win, their seventh straight win against
Speaker 2: the Broncos, different faces, same result. Broncos opened the game
Speaker 2: with an on side kick. Maybe it can all come
Speaker 2: down to that one decision at the beginning of the game.
Speaker 2: Because this was a seventeen to sixteen final, the Broncos
Speaker 2: Sean Payton decide to open with an onside kick that
Speaker 2: Denver recovered. But illegal touching negates at Kelly A good
Speaker 2: lesson in life. No illegal touching from you ever in
Speaker 2: any circumstance.
Speaker 1: We also should have done in April that Sean Payton
Speaker 1: was gonna onside kick for the first kick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally should have. So the Raiders start at the
Speaker 2: Denver forty four to fourth and one at the Denver
Speaker 2: thirty six excuse me, thirty five, twelve fifty four left.
Speaker 2: First quarter, Groppolo to DeVante for thirteen, then third and
Speaker 2: seven from the Denver nineteen with ten to fifty eight
Speaker 2: left in the quarter. Groppolo runs for it, converts but
Speaker 2: gets crushed. Frank Clark called for unnecessary roughness. Has to
Speaker 2: come out briefly. Garppolo does, but then third and goal
Speaker 2: from the three. He's back in. He hits the law
Speaker 2: firm of Jacoby Myers from three out, seven to nothing,
Speaker 2: Raiders on the short field on the on side kick.
Speaker 2: Broncos then go eighty six yards and eight thirty eight
Speaker 2: to tie it up. At set well to try to
Speaker 2: tie it up, but seven to six, Wilson to a
Speaker 2: little Jordan Humphrey from five out. Will Luttz misses the
Speaker 2: point after touchdown with forty four seconds left in the
Speaker 2: first quarter. Missed extra points never come back to haunt
Speaker 2: you kept. Oh never, never, never never.
Speaker 1: We only said on Primetime Action every single night.
Speaker 2: Was the final score of this game? Oh yeah, one
Speaker 2: point sure. After a Raiders field goal to go up
Speaker 2: ten to six, the teen's trade punts. Then the Broncos
Speaker 2: go seventy five yards and two eighteen, spurred on by
Speaker 2: a big eighteen yard Raiders Pi Wilson to Sutton from
Speaker 2: five out thirteen to ten Denver, twelve seconds left in
Speaker 2: the half, and the Broncos get the second half kick off.
Speaker 2: This set up beautifully, but the third quarter begins Let's
Speaker 2: and misses a fifty five yard and nine thirty two
Speaker 2: left third quarters still thirteen to ten, Raiders matriculate first
Speaker 2: in goal, the Denver one Groppolo fumble on the exchange
Speaker 2: from center lands on it second and goal. The one
Speaker 2: illegal formation second and goal, the six incomplete third and
Speaker 2: goal Groppolo intended for a mire abdua in the end zone,
Speaker 2: ball bounces in the year picked by Kareem Jackson. With
Speaker 2: two to one left in the third, Broncos matriculate seventy
Speaker 2: five yards from their own twenty but are stiming at
Speaker 2: the Raiders five, forced to settle for a Lutz twenty
Speaker 2: four yard chip shot sixteen to ten, Denver eight to
Speaker 2: fifty four left. Those of us who had a survivor
Speaker 2: play on Denver knew sense to what was coming. Raiders
Speaker 2: go seventy five yards and six plays, because of course
Speaker 2: they do, aided by roughing the passer play Garoppolo to
Speaker 2: Jacoby Myers from six out seventeen to sixteen, Raiders Broncos
Speaker 2: three and out. They have to punt with five I
Speaker 2: eight left with the Raiders up seventeen to sixteen. The
Speaker 2: Broncos would never see the ball again. Big play on
Speaker 2: third and seven from the Raiders forty four with three
Speaker 2: minutes left, Myers from Jimmy G for seven with Kareem
Speaker 2: Jackson getting nailed with an unsports and like penalty. Then
Speaker 2: another third and seven at the two minute warning the
Speaker 2: fleet of foot Jimmy G for eight. Ball game, Raiders
Speaker 2: win at seventeen to sixteen. Garoppolo twenty of twenty six
Speaker 2: for two hundred two touchdowns, one picked, he was not sacked. Myers.
Speaker 2: Jacobe Myers and his debut with the Raiders. Nine catches
Speaker 2: for eighty one and two touchdowns, ten penalties for ninety
Speaker 2: seven yards for the Raiders. That's our first. They got
Speaker 2: to clean it up for the season, but that's on
Speaker 2: brand for the Raiders with the penalties, Raiders get it done.
Speaker 2: That's my one survivor play that it was my frisky
Speaker 2: survivor entry and down goes that in Week number one, big.
Speaker 1: Win by the Raiders. Man, you know, as ugly as
Speaker 1: we want to call the game, that's a big win
Speaker 1: going into Denver and picking that up early in the season.
Speaker 2: Sight unseen at Buffalo. We don't know obviously what's gonna
Speaker 2: happen with Buffalo tonight. Obviously it injury will change this.
Speaker 2: But I said Buffalo minus a full ten because there
Speaker 2: was nothing about that game that made me think either
Speaker 2: team was any good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're DraftKings nine and a half, but it is
Speaker 1: about split nine and a half ten in the market
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: Okay, so those are all pretty on point, those guesses
Speaker 2: so far, those three anyway, Week number one, the point
Speaker 2: of this is to try to have some discrepancy between
Speaker 2: the guests, between the guests and the actual line, so
Speaker 2: hopefully we get into that the record on this show
Speaker 2: over the years. Seven. There was a famous Dolphins Steelers
Speaker 2: Monday Night game some years ago where I had it
Speaker 2: is seven. It ended up as a fourteen point spread
Speaker 2: that was bizarrow. One strange week on a Monday night game.
Speaker 2: We'll come back more of the early kickoffs next week.
Speaker 2: Week number two. In the NFL, looking for betting value,
Speaker 2: it's guessing lines, right here on a numbers game as
Speaker 2: the Sports Betting Network Gil Alexander Kelly Bidlin live from
Speaker 2: bar Canada at the d Our New Digs here the
Speaker 2: d Man.
Speaker 1: I missed these days, Gill. I miss Monday mornings after
Speaker 1: NFL Sunday. I mean a how great was NFL Sunday?
Speaker 1: But where I'm just looking at looking at the odds
Speaker 1: board and it's lighting up like a Christmas tree right
Speaker 1: where we finally get everybody posting numbers and everybody betting
Speaker 1: into him, bing bing bang.
Speaker 2: Every numbers movie we get tweets at beating the book.
Speaker 2: Chris House just sitting around waiting for Gil to come on.
Speaker 2: I want to see if he has any San Diego
Speaker 2: bones to throw. WTA no do tennis today. College football,
Speaker 2: baseball will get it. We'll get back to it tomorrow,
Speaker 2: I promise. Bainbridge Dewisee. Can't wait to hear your recaps,
Speaker 2: even though Chrissy will be sorely missed. Hope you have
Speaker 2: some explanation for why I've abel declined a holding penalty
Speaker 2: let Saints kick a fifty two yard field goal instead
Speaker 2: of backing them up for third and eleven, because I
Speaker 2: sure as hell don't there's a lot of we have
Speaker 2: another Vabel decision to get into that. Some people had
Speaker 2: trouble with I did not, but we'll get into that.
Speaker 2: Jesse Welch, I'll hit it for you. Gil, I'm a survivor.
Speaker 2: Hit it.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: You go four or five through, which is right on
Speaker 2: par with basically the field just over twey one percent
Speaker 2: out in Circus survivor. Gilly Ice, Butcher's my name, Gil.
Speaker 2: Can you ask your listeners in Virginia if anyone was
Speaker 2: able to do a teaser at Caesar Sports went yesterday
Speaker 2: from North Carolina. I couldn't ever find it, By the way,
Speaker 2: it would have been a lost cause because I was
Speaker 2: going to use one leg on the Steelers. Oh good
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Can I cut in real quick?
Speaker 2: Gill?
Speaker 1: Yes, I figured out, so was I telling you? We
Speaker 1: were telling these on Caesar's app. We couldn't get in
Speaker 1: six point teasers right. It was driving me nuts Friday night. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm at the Venetian. Yeah, Who's sportsbook now over there?
Speaker 1: Powered by William Mill We know William Hill Caesar's similar setup.
Speaker 1: So I'm in there making bets and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: figure out why can I put a six point teaser in? Well,
Speaker 1: I figured out the trick to the Caesars app Gil.
Speaker 1: It only takes about nine steps to finally get to
Speaker 1: a six point teams good. Yeah. So if anybody out
Speaker 1: there is having difficulties, feel free to tweet at me
Speaker 1: and I'll walk you through. I guess the customer service
Speaker 1: that Caesar should be doing. Of the nine steps you
Speaker 1: have to do to actually get a six point teaser.
Speaker 2: Caesars, I won't even get that far. Just make it work, it,
Speaker 2: just make it work to begin with. Also, I feel
Speaker 2: as though we're all this is from Jesse Wils. I
Speaker 2: feel as tho we're all collectively cheating on Chrissy. I
Speaker 2: feel dirty. This is very true me too. And then
Speaker 2: Mike Borel Gil. I don't want to dicker with the
Speaker 2: with the inner workings, but can't the suits understand how
Speaker 2: imported Chrissy is to guessing Liones You're still great, but
Speaker 2: I miss him. We all do the kicker digger, the
Speaker 2: kickery well that Chrisy always said that I don't want
Speaker 2: a dicker. Yeah, the lines he's traving Tribute toue, what's next?
Speaker 2: On ten am picking Tribute to Chrissy, we lost your
Speaker 2: mic by the way Ravens at the Bengals, he said.
Speaker 2: Ravens I mentioned this about the Vikings being on brand
Speaker 2: with their loss. Ravens were totally on brand with their
Speaker 2: win against the Texans scoreless game. After Houston held the
Speaker 2: Ravens to a three and out to start the game,
Speaker 2: Texans go for it fourth and one at their own
Speaker 2: forty seven ten to fifty nine left first quarter. Stroud
Speaker 2: sacked by Patrick McQueen for Patrick queen, pardon me for
Speaker 2: eleven yard loss, but ensuing drive third and six on
Speaker 2: the Houston sixteen Lamar picked by Steve Nelson. Ravens would
Speaker 2: score to go up seven to nothing late in the
Speaker 2: first quarter on a JK. Dobbins four yard run. Texans
Speaker 2: down seven to three late in the half, third and
Speaker 2: fifteen at the Baltimore forty two thirty one seconds left
Speaker 2: in the half. Roughing the passer penalty called on Baltimore
Speaker 2: leads to a Fairburn thirty eight yard field goal seven
Speaker 2: to six Baltimore at halftime. Third quarter, after Ravens forced
Speaker 2: to three and out from the Texas to start the half,
Speaker 2: Baltimore was seventy one yards three of three catches for
Speaker 2: forty one of those yards to Zay Justice Hill in
Speaker 2: from two touchdown Baltimore, followed by a two point conversion
Speaker 2: converted by Hill fifteen to six, and then it became
Speaker 2: sort of a routine win for Baltimore. Houston goes for
Speaker 2: fourth and won at their own forty two. On the
Speaker 2: subsequent drive, Damian Pierce stopped for no game by Rokwan Smith,
Speaker 2: again the theme everybody goes for it on fourth down everywhere.
Speaker 2: Five play drive for Baltimore, helped along by seventeen yard
Speaker 2: pi Hill in from two, twenty two to six Baltimore
Speaker 2: thirty one seconds left in the third quarter of Baltimore
Speaker 2: up twenty two to six, first in ten at their
Speaker 2: own thirty one, Lamar sacked and fumbled. MJ. Stort recovers,
Speaker 2: but the Ravens d holds Texas. The Texans rather to
Speaker 2: fairburn thirty six yard field goal twenty two to nine,
Speaker 2: thirteen forty seven left in the fourth. Baltimore adds a
Speaker 2: field goal twenty five to nine. Final. They may not
Speaker 2: may it has now come firm. JK. Dobbins lost for
Speaker 2: the season with a torn achilles attendon, so it was
Speaker 2: a costly win for the ravens Lamar seventeen of twenty
Speaker 2: two for one sixty nine, no touchdowns, one picks. He
Speaker 2: was sacked four times, six carries for thirty eight yards
Speaker 2: and a fumble lost. Zay Flowers nine catches for seventy eight.
Speaker 2: They actually were outgained by the Texans two sixty eight
Speaker 2: to two sixty five, thirteen penalties for one oh six
Speaker 2: for Baltimore. And then there was the curious case of
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals zero zero game after the team's traded punts.
Speaker 2: This was the peak of the of the game for
Speaker 2: the Bengals. Second and five of the Cincinnati twenty one
Speaker 2: for Cleveland Jerome Fod hit by Logan Wilson, fumbles recovered
Speaker 2: by Chadobi a woozy. That is where it peaked for
Speaker 2: the Bengals, because the Bengals then went punch punts, punch punts,
Speaker 2: punch punts, punts seven for seven to start the game.
Speaker 2: In fact, eleven punts in a fumble in the first
Speaker 2: thirteen combined possessions in this game. The Browns up three
Speaker 2: to nothing with one thirty six left in the half,
Speaker 2: they started their own thirty three. They go sixty seven yards,
Speaker 2: capped by a Deshaun Watson thirteen yard touchdown run with
Speaker 2: seventeen seconds left on the clock. Ten to nothing clear
Speaker 2: at the half. The Browns get the ball first in
Speaker 2: the second half. Burrow at halftime six of fourteen for
Speaker 2: thirty six yards, no touchdowns, no picksack ones. The Bengals
Speaker 2: had a total of three first downs twelve to three
Speaker 2: in the first down column in favor of the Browns.
Speaker 2: DeShawn was ten of twenty for eighty five at that point.
Speaker 2: Not much better, no touchdowns, no pick sack twice. Chubb
Speaker 2: ten for fifty seven. It was one ninety five ninety
Speaker 2: seven advantage to Cleveland total yards of the half. Third quarter,
Speaker 2: after holding the Browns to a three and out, Bengals
Speaker 2: don't have to punt for the first time. They go
Speaker 2: forty yards, helped by a pi Evan McPherson forty two
Speaker 2: yard field goal, ten to three Cleveland. Could the Bengals
Speaker 2: make this a game? Nope, couldn't. Third play in suing drive,
Speaker 2: Watson throws a miserable pass that goes right to a
Speaker 2: wide open Dax Hill. Again he plays for the wrong team,
Speaker 2: plays with the Bengals McPherson, though, misses a fifty one
Speaker 2: yarder that's followed by a made Hopkins thirty four yarder.
Speaker 2: It's thirteen to three late third quarter, and then another
Speaker 2: Cincinnati punt, another Hopkins field goal from forty three, sixteen
Speaker 2: to three. Bengals drive fourth and four from their own
Speaker 2: thirty one ten thirty two left. Burrow sacked by Miles
Speaker 2: Garrett three plays later to Sean de Harrison Brian from
Speaker 2: three out twenty four to three after a two point
Speaker 2: conversion and for all intents and purpose of the competitive
Speaker 2: portion of the game was over. In fact, after another
Speaker 2: three and a half for Cincinnati, Burrow would be pulled
Speaker 2: from the game for Jake Browning. That's how would end
Speaker 2: twenty four to three. Burrow fourteen of thirty one for
Speaker 2: eighty two, right after signing his two hundred seventy five
Speaker 2: million dollar extension. Two point six yards per attempt, wow
Speaker 2: gave up two hundred and six rushing yards of the Browns.
Speaker 2: Browns out first down the Bengals twenty one to six,
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty to one forty two in total yards.
Speaker 2: Bengals were plus two and turnovers that didn't help them.
Speaker 2: They're punter Brad Robbins ten punts, ten punts for a
Speaker 2: total of four hundred and nine yards. Was this the
Speaker 2: most surprising performance of the week to you the Bengals, Oh,
Speaker 2: we don't have your mind anymore. Well, between that and Seattle,
Speaker 2: that would be the debate. I'll say, Cincinnati minus three
Speaker 2: and a half, hopefully r Mike works and a half. Okay,
Speaker 2: three and three and a half and ha okay, okay,
Speaker 2: a couple three still out there, he says. I got
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati minus three and a half, so close, but
Speaker 2: you still there are some threes out there, he says,
Speaker 2: Hu DraftKings just went to three, just went to three,
Speaker 2: just went to three and a half.
Speaker 1: Everywhere we're alf okay.
Speaker 2: Don't we don't have you? What's the next game? And
Speaker 2: I'll go Seahawks and Lions, everybody, Seahawks and Lions. Lions
Speaker 2: of course, coming off the Thursday night went against the
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs, New Digs. We're working it out so
Speaker 2: we don't have to get into that game. But Seattle again,
Speaker 2: between them and the Bengals, for the most surprising performance.
Speaker 2: The Bengals generally Seattle when it comes to the pro
Speaker 2: betters that we talked to all of last week, and
Speaker 2: again this drives home the point that I was making.
Speaker 2: You know, most of this offseason, none of us knows
Speaker 2: a damn thing. Seattle against the Rams, they get crushed
Speaker 2: thirty to thirteen. Seattle thirty six yard field goal on
Speaker 2: their open drive, followed by sixteen plays seventy five yard
Speaker 2: touchdown to drive for the Rams. Kyron Williams in from one,
Speaker 2: seven to three Rams. Seattle then goes seventy five yards
Speaker 2: on twelve plays, no third downs needed, Gino to Metcalf
Speaker 2: from ten, ten to seven Hawks, thirteen to seven game,
Speaker 2: now the Hawks in front. The Rams try to cut
Speaker 2: it to three with a Maher fifty seven yard field
Speaker 2: will try. It was block blocked. It ends up with
Speaker 2: a Jason Meyer's thirty nine yard field goal to try
Speaker 2: to add to the lead, but he joints it off
Speaker 2: the right, up right with thirty one seconds left in
Speaker 2: the half. No good. Then Meyer misses a sixty four
Speaker 2: yard at ten for the Rams last play of the half,
Speaker 2: still thirteen to seven Seahawks, though going in to the
Speaker 2: locker room, Rams go seventy six yards to start the
Speaker 2: second half. This is where you're like, oh, my God,
Speaker 2: Kiron Williams, the fifth round pick out of Notre Dame
Speaker 2: last year, in from seven fourteen to thirteen Rams, they'd
Speaker 2: never relinquish the lead again. In fact, the Seahawks would
Speaker 2: never score again. Rams out of Maher thirty eight yard
Speaker 2: after forcing a Seattle three and out, then after forcing
Speaker 2: a Hawk's punt, the Rams go seventy six yards to
Speaker 2: two at well on the receiving end of fifty of
Speaker 2: those yards are in from one Rams up twenty four
Speaker 2: to thirteen In the shaker of the day nine to
Speaker 2: forty five left another Seattle three and out, followed by
Speaker 2: a Maher fifty four yarder to make it twenty seven
Speaker 2: to thirteen Rams with four to fifty seven left thirty
Speaker 2: to thirteen. Final genos sixteen of twenty six for one twelve.
Speaker 2: Add his performance to some of the anemic offensive quarterback lines.
Speaker 2: On the box scores one touchdown, no picks, two sacks.
Speaker 2: The Seahawks only mustered thirteen first downs, there were two
Speaker 2: of nine on third downs. They only had one hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty total yards. They were outgained four twenty six
Speaker 2: to one eighty three thirty four to ninety five in
Speaker 2: the passing game thirty nine twenty three to twenty thirty seven.
Speaker 2: That's thirty nine minutes and twenty three seconds to twenty
Speaker 2: thirty seven disadvantage in time of possession. In fact, in
Speaker 2: the second half, the Rams ran forty eight plays and
Speaker 2: the Seahawks ran thirteen. I got Detroit minus four and
Speaker 2: a half. Here Kelly's holding up sides. He says, it's
Speaker 2: Detroit minus five and a half. Okay, I think I
Speaker 2: might have my first play. That seems like a little
Speaker 2: bit of an overreaction. Seattle's getting five and a half
Speaker 2: because you can't. You can't overreact to these first games
Speaker 2: that much, did you. He's just making hand signals. He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Gil, I can't talk. That could be
Speaker 2: the first play week two, right there, Seattle, I think
Speaker 2: get him a five and a half. We'll come back
Speaker 2: more early games. Right here on the Numbers game and
Speaker 2: visa these sports Betting network, it's Skill Alexander. It's Kelly
Speaker 2: Bilan live from Bark, Canada at the d again for
Speaker 2: the DK network audience, and you're like, well, what is
Speaker 2: all this? He's going through all the games and then
Speaker 2: he's making a guess. This is an exercise that we
Speaker 2: have done, you know, thirteen years, ten of which we
Speaker 2: did with Chrissy Andrews, my Mishpocha who runs at the
Speaker 2: South Point Hotel Sportsbook down at the tip of the strip.
Speaker 2: And what it is is, I'm in a cocoon. Once
Speaker 2: I watched the games yesterday, I don't know the lines
Speaker 2: for week number two. I make sure that I don't
Speaker 2: know them. I eschew all looking at any kind of
Speaker 2: media to know that, and I give my best guess
Speaker 2: as to what the line is. It's not about my guess.
Speaker 2: You can guess along with it. It's about wherever the
Speaker 2: difference is between the guests and the actual So what
Speaker 2: with the games that we just went through, I guess
Speaker 2: four and a half on Detroit over Cincinnati. You tell
Speaker 2: me that it's five and a half, Kelly, that's the
Speaker 2: first one where I'm like, oh, that is a little much,
Speaker 2: because again, if you just go back before yesterday, right, right,
Speaker 2: would that be five and a half, Because I wasn't
Speaker 2: really that high on Detroit to begin with.
Speaker 1: It's not even that. It's go back before Thursday, right right,
Speaker 1: Thursday Thursday? And I think you're right, But I guess
Speaker 1: The only one is this is still in that dead
Speaker 1: number range, right from the four and a half to
Speaker 1: five and a half. Yeah, so I think it's more
Speaker 1: because I kind of circled this one too. It's wait
Speaker 1: to see if we tick up to a six at
Speaker 1: any point this week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with that, and it would be
Speaker 2: a by on absolutely. And by the way, the recaps
Speaker 2: get short, come come our number two because we will
Speaker 2: have gone through all of them. One more lengthy one,
Speaker 2: I believe, coming up. What do you got here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and real quick before we get to that for
Speaker 1: you know, for the new audience that might be tuned
Speaker 1: into this for the first time. I think this is
Speaker 1: a good practice skill. Like we talked to professional handicappers
Speaker 1: all the time that have their own power ratings set
Speaker 1: for the NFL. This is a little bit more like
Speaker 1: I would suggest if you're an NFL better that's just
Speaker 1: getting into betting the NFL, you know, even semi seriously
Speaker 1: or more or more seriously. This is a practice, the
Speaker 1: practice that you do every week, a practice that you
Speaker 1: should get into yourself for just predicting what you think
Speaker 1: the line should or guessing what you think the line
Speaker 1: should be, seeing how that matches up to the sports book.
Speaker 1: It's an easier way instead of formulating your own power
Speaker 1: ratings and going down that hole.
Speaker 2: Well, the biggest thing is we often the instinct that
Speaker 2: we have here Monday morning is often the right one,
Speaker 2: and then we spend the rest of the week convincing
Speaker 2: ourselves otherwise. We have lots of guests on the show.
Speaker 2: They give reasons for why they might not agree with you,
Speaker 2: and oftentimes again, if you just come back to this,
Speaker 2: it's your best.
Speaker 1: Pace, which was you all last year? A well last year? Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go keep going.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to read all the two I just
Speaker 2: want to read these. Now we have your mic back,
Speaker 2: I just want to read a couple of weeks real quick.
Speaker 2: Clone Okay, this is clone Bone and Kevin Kelly finishing
Speaker 2: the rest of guessing lines from the restroom. Sounds like
Speaker 2: that with his microphone out Mike Zill's Duke ninety. Hey,
Speaker 2: it looks like Chrissy pulled Kelly's microphone, like he pulled
Speaker 2: Vesi's heading privileges Joe Abraham Chris has sabotaged Kelly's mic.
Speaker 1: I hope we had no parlay card issue.
Speaker 2: Steven Vegas Stephn Vegas when he says, what a gil
Speaker 2: just guess for Detroit Seattle? I had minus three? Okay,
Speaker 2: so he's even lower than me. So that's what this
Speaker 2: is all.
Speaker 1: About, absolutely all right. Keith von Cruzen Sunday one, Eastern Chargers.
Speaker 2: At Titans, Chargers at Titans Chargers in defeat yesterday, thirty
Speaker 2: six to thirty four, talk about on brand. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: it's the same old Chargers. Miami opened. What a game
Speaker 2: this was. They opened the game by going seventy three yards.
Speaker 2: The Chargers two, led by sixteen yard completion to Tyrek
Speaker 2: in a thirty five yard a to waddle from Tua,
Speaker 2: but first and goal to two two of fumbles on
Speaker 2: the exchange room center. Nick Williams recovers at the six,
Speaker 2: and then the Charges go ninety four yards cap by
Speaker 2: an Eckler one plunge seven and nothing. Chargers. At that
Speaker 2: point you're like, oh, same old Dolphins. Dolphins then go
Speaker 2: seventy five yards mostered in from two after a big
Speaker 2: two at a river creak craft completion and a face
Speaker 2: mask later on, Chargers and Dolphins tied at seven, three
Speaker 2: and out for the Chargers. Miami matriculates again seventy two
Speaker 2: yards and settle for Jason Sanders twenty three yard chip
Speaker 2: shot to go up ten to seven. Three drives Miami unstoppable,
Speaker 2: but only up a field goal. Chargers come right back downfield.
Speaker 2: They go seventy five yards fifty five on an Eckler
Speaker 2: scamper longest run of his career, fourteen to ten Chargers
Speaker 2: after Herbert hits parum from one out nine oh seven left,
Speaker 2: second quarter, then to Miami three and out. Charges forced
Speaker 2: to pun Miami with a fourth and seven at the
Speaker 2: Charges forty two two thirty one left, two at a
Speaker 2: Durham Smith for ten first down to extend the drive.
Speaker 2: Five plays later, two at a creak Craft one yard
Speaker 2: touchdown past seventeen fourteen Miami one forty two left in
Speaker 2: the second quarter. Then Dicker sinks a fifty yarder to
Speaker 2: tie it up for the Chargers with nine seconds left
Speaker 2: in the half. It's seventeen to seventeen and you figure, oh,
Speaker 2: they're going into the locker room like this. Nope, tu
Speaker 2: to waddle. Remember there's nine seconds two at a waddle
Speaker 2: for twenty two. Then with two seconds left, a PI
Speaker 2: on J. C. Jackson mental error Sampers forty one yard
Speaker 2: field goal twenty to seventeen. That ends up being all
Speaker 2: they needed to win the game. That field goal. Remember
Speaker 2: those nine seconds.
Speaker 1: How did Jackson not like feel or notice like the
Speaker 1: two safeties he had helping behind him, he like took
Speaker 1: out the took him out like it was a you know,
Speaker 1: receiver was gonna catch and walk into the end zone.
Speaker 2: Brutal. Like we said, those Tampa Bay too, you know,
Speaker 2: those Minnesota turnovers left to three led to three Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay points. That's all they needed for the margin of victory.
Speaker 2: How about that for the margin of victory. Here first
Speaker 2: drive of the second half, Chargers go seventy five yards
Speaker 2: Herbert in from one, twenty four to twenty Chargers. Then
Speaker 2: Miami drives downfield. This is a boxing match. They have
Speaker 2: a third and twelve with the Charges twenty six four
Speaker 2: to thirty nine left. Third quarter two a pick by
Speaker 2: Jackson this time. Jackson redeems himself, but the Chargers, starting
Speaker 2: at their four, forced to punt fourth and fourth and
Speaker 2: thirteen from their own one bad punt from JK. Scott.
Speaker 2: Dolphins get the ball to Charges thirty five. One play
Speaker 2: two a to Tyreek for thirty five it's twenty seven
Speaker 2: to twenty four Miami two twelve left third quarter, just Haymakers.
Speaker 2: Chargers then go seventy five Herbert to Eckler for thirty five.
Speaker 2: The big play Josh Wall Kelly in from two with
Speaker 2: fourteen minutes left, thirty one to twenty seven Chargers. Miami
Speaker 2: settles for a Jason Sanders forty five yard field goal
Speaker 2: with ten oh three left to cut the lead to
Speaker 2: thirty one to thirty. Then Chargers get a Dicker twenty
Speaker 2: five yarder thirty four to thirty Chargers. Miami starts at
Speaker 2: their own twenty five three to fifty three left. Third play,
Speaker 2: third and ten from Miami twenty five three forty seven left,
Speaker 2: two out of Tyree for forty seven. I have no
Speaker 2: idea how the ball got through him. Five plays later,
Speaker 2: third and goal from the Chargers four two out, a
Speaker 2: Tyreek touchdown. Once again, I have no idea how the
Speaker 2: ball got through thirty six thirty four. Sanders misses the
Speaker 2: pat with one forty five left. You're like, oh, the
Speaker 2: door is open.
Speaker 1: Left him too much time.
Speaker 2: Same old Dolphins, and then out of nowhere Kelly. All
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the Miami defense shows up for the
Speaker 2: first time in the whole game. First and ten at
Speaker 2: the Chargers thirty five with one thirty eight left, intentional
Speaker 2: grounding on Herbert when he was pressured, then sacked by
Speaker 2: Zach Sealer on second down. Then after picking up seventy
Speaker 2: on third and thirty, Herbert sacked again, this time by
Speaker 2: Jalen Phillips and Justin Bethel ballgame, Miami wins thirty six
Speaker 2: thirty four, Herbert twenty three of thirty three for two
Speaker 2: twenty eight, one touchdown, no picks, stack three times five
Speaker 2: of eighteen on the ground with a touchdown Eckler. He
Speaker 2: filled up the box score sixteen for one to seventeen
Speaker 2: on the ground with a touchdown four for forty seven.
Speaker 2: In the passing game, they were outgained. The Chargers were
Speaker 2: by the Dolphins five thirty six to four to thirty three.
Speaker 2: We'll get the Dolphins a little more later, four sixty
Speaker 2: six to one ninety nine. In the passing game plus
Speaker 2: two and turnovers, the Chargers were the to of fumble
Speaker 2: lost at the Chargers two yard line on the opening
Speaker 2: drive being the huge one, but the Dolphins get it done.
Speaker 2: Chargers lose Tennessee the complete opposite kind of game Tennessee
Speaker 2: in the Saints, Tennessee loses sixteen to fifteen. Amani Hooker
Speaker 2: of the Saints on the opening kickoff was stripped. The
Speaker 2: Titans had to settle for a field goal, Get used
Speaker 2: to a field goal Fest three to nothing, six to
Speaker 2: three Tennessee. As the teams traded field goals third and
Speaker 2: ten at the Tennessee fourteen car hit ruled in complete
Speaker 2: on the field whistle blows on review looked like a fumble.
Speaker 2: Titans would have to settle for the recovery, but instead
Speaker 2: of air scoop and score instead ruled incomplete. Blake group
Speaker 2: thirty three yard field goals six to six. Following drive
Speaker 2: third and five at their own thirty six forty eight
Speaker 2: left second quarter, Tannahill looking for DeAndre Hopkins, forces it
Speaker 2: into coverage. Marshawn Latimore picks it up at the Saints
Speaker 2: Gang capitalized, forced a punt, Titans go down get a
Speaker 2: Folk thirty one yard field goal Nick Folk nine to
Speaker 2: six Tennessee. How bad was Ryan Tannehill and he sucks?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, was he bad?
Speaker 1: Ryan Levis already started.
Speaker 2: Derek Carr third and eight at the Tennessee thirty one
Speaker 2: thirty seven seconds left in the half, picked by Amani Hooker,
Speaker 2: nine to six. At the half, teams were Both teams
Speaker 2: were two of fourteen combined on third downs in this game.
Speaker 2: The Titans were zero for six in the first half.
Speaker 2: To that point, they were two of fourteen. Third quarter,
Speaker 2: fourth play of the half, Tannehill picked by Marcus May Downfield,
Speaker 2: Saints get it at their own seven, get a big
Speaker 2: Cardo a Lobve forty five yard game. They settle for
Speaker 2: another fifty two yard field goal from group nine to
Speaker 2: nine is a group of Group I don't know. Teams
Speaker 2: trade punts third and five for Tennessee at their own
Speaker 2: sixteen three to fourteen left in the third quarter. Tannahill
Speaker 2: picked by Paulison Adebo five plays thirty three yards Karda
Speaker 2: Rashija heat from nineteen owne sixteen to nine Saints. We
Speaker 2: finally have a touchdown that would be the winning score
Speaker 2: because next drive, Tannehill first and ten at the New
Speaker 2: Orleans forty seven fleeflick or Tannehill misses a wide open
Speaker 2: Chickazima Conkuo eventually settles for a Folk forty five yarder.
Speaker 2: Sixteen to twelve. New Orleans eleven twelve left. After forcing
Speaker 2: a Saints punt, Titans started their own twenty seven six
Speaker 2: forty two left, get to a fourth and six at
Speaker 2: the New Orleans eleven two to twenty left, with all
Speaker 2: timeouts and two minute warning left, they elect to kick
Speaker 2: a field goal down for Folk from twenty nine to
Speaker 2: sixteen to fifteen. Did you have a problem with that?
Speaker 2: Pearls was texting me, owing me up. Yeah, have a
Speaker 2: problem even with the timeouts on the two minute warning. Interesting,
Speaker 2: I did not, I did not. Saints, I get it,
Speaker 2: but yeah, problem. Well, Saints start with two twelve left,
Speaker 2: needing a first down. They get just that third and
Speaker 2: six car to Rashid Rahichi. Pardon me, Rashid Shaheed forty
Speaker 2: one yard game with one fifty five left, but Shaheed
Speaker 2: led out of bounds on the catch. Titans still have
Speaker 2: two timeouts left, but third and fourth of the Tennessee
Speaker 2: twenty Jamal Williams for eleven. He actually gets the ball
Speaker 2: poked out Kevin Byard by Kevin Bayered, but Williams lands
Speaker 2: on it. Ball game sixteen to fifteen. New Orleans Tannehill
Speaker 2: sixteen of thirty four for eight, no touchdowns, three picks,
Speaker 2: sack three times, Derek Henry just fifteen of sixty three
Speaker 2: but two of fifty six in the passing game. Hopkins
Speaker 2: seven for sixty five in his debut. I said the
Speaker 2: Chargers minus four and a half on the road against Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Chargers minus three painted everywhere has not moved from the opener. Really, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I got that one circle too, Gilly. We might
Speaker 1: be another super chat.
Speaker 3: I like the Seahawks and I like the Chargers. Wow,
Speaker 3: it's only three three. Tannehill's terrible, terrible, terrible. We'll come
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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right. Continuing with Week two guessing line.
Speaker 2: By the way, just a couple other notes here. Johnny Ringo,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be heartbroken without the I like your number better? Yeah,
Speaker 2: how many of those did Chrissy like my number better? On?
Speaker 2: I wonder can we get a shot at Christy again?
Speaker 2: By the way, everybody real quick five show. There's Chrissy
Speaker 2: right there. Two and a half a show, Two and
Speaker 2: a half a show. Rob Platt's Good morning, Gillan Kelly.
Speaker 2: I know this is off sports talk, but I just
Speaker 2: wanted to send my prayers to all the people that
Speaker 2: were affected and still dealing with the tragic and discussing
Speaker 2: events of this day. He says, twenty four years ago.
Speaker 2: It was actually twenty two years ago.
Speaker 1: Amen.
Speaker 2: US Canadians will hashtag never forget. Absolutely, yeah, twenty two
Speaker 2: years since since nine eleven in two thousand and one,
Speaker 2: My goodness, twenty two years. We all remember where we were,
Speaker 2: that is for sure. This is from Las Vegas, Chris,
Speaker 2: no artful way to segue from that. But he says
Speaker 2: about your Caesar's complain he says, he goes six point teasers, easy,
Speaker 2: try a seven point teaser on the Caesars app. He
Speaker 2: said that was he said, they didn't let you slide
Speaker 2: the bar to seven without it bringing you back to six.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no explanation. This is what you're gonna get.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get an air message, and then what you're
Speaker 1: gonna do is you're gonna slide it over to six
Speaker 1: and a half, and then it's gonna go to an
Speaker 1: air message again. It's gonna allow you to slide back
Speaker 1: to six, where you'll finally see the odds and then
Speaker 1: you can input your bed.
Speaker 2: Gill I swear to Chris Felika at Live Text that
Speaker 2: he goes, you mean the Chargers are poorly coach Daniel
Speaker 2: Jones at Gito Smith stink. Justin Fields isn't gonna be
Speaker 2: the MVP. The forty nine Ers are really good. I'm
Speaker 2: stunned by all of these. The more things change, the
Speaker 2: boy they stay the same. He also has a new
Speaker 2: numbers game Bingo card. He says a homeless person at
Speaker 2: the bar, Mike's go out, Jackpot's lot machines, club music
Speaker 2: over speakers, then go for all all right, we.
Speaker 1: Gotta get to a whole one team. We got a
Speaker 1: butcher all right. On Sunday, one Eastern Bears at Bucks.
Speaker 2: Okay, we talked about both of these games. Bears lose
Speaker 2: to the Packers big and Tampa Bay upsets the Vikings.
Speaker 2: Chicago Tampa Bay Fields, by the way, in that game
Speaker 2: and defeat was twenty four to thirty seven for two sixteen,
Speaker 2: one touchdown, one pick. You sacked four times nine for
Speaker 2: fifty nine on the ground of fumbles law one fumble
Speaker 2: lost as we talked about, and the Bears minus two
Speaker 2: and turnovers, the big one the pick six to Rasul Douglas.
Speaker 2: By the way, let me just say this about Fields,
Speaker 2: and I have ever fleus to be the first coach fireds.
Speaker 2: I'm no fan, but Field's escapability is something to be whole. Sure,
Speaker 2: he's amazing to watch in that regard. Anyway, Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: Mayfield and victory was twenty one of thirty four for
Speaker 2: one seventy three, two touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked ones.
Speaker 2: The Vikings were outgained by Tampa Bay as we mentioned,
Speaker 2: three sixty nine to two forty two, three twenty eight
Speaker 2: to one sixty nine, or the Vikings outgained Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: three sixty nine to two forty two. Uh, but they
Speaker 2: were minus three in turnovers, and as we mentioned those
Speaker 2: three Tampa Bay points where the margin of victory that
Speaker 2: those turnovers led to. I will god, this is hard.
Speaker 2: Is Chicago still like a tick of a favorite minus
Speaker 2: one and a half.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, No, this is Bucks three everywhere, I think
Speaker 1: pretty much everywhere open one or two two and a
Speaker 1: half still out there open two and a half most
Speaker 1: places I saw yesterday. But it is Bucks two and
Speaker 1: a half. Three is what we're looking like in this game.
Speaker 2: So I don't think it should be three. But this
Speaker 2: is one where I'm not racing to bet.
Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, no, I hear you. I think that
Speaker 1: that that Bears team.
Speaker 2: This is the game I want no part of. This
Speaker 2: is the megapod question. I don't think I want any
Speaker 2: part of this game.
Speaker 1: My only respe I responded the way I did to
Speaker 1: your fields this capability thing, because it's you. You. You
Speaker 1: might have just nailed the entire list of positives when
Speaker 1: it comes to the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 2: That's exactly so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not racing to bettit either, all right. I
Speaker 1: want to keep on Cruz Deer Sunday one Eastern Chiefs
Speaker 1: at Jags.
Speaker 2: The big one, all right, that is the That is
Speaker 2: a nice game. Chiefs of course coming off the Thursday
Speaker 2: night defeat, so they'll be on extra rest here. We
Speaker 2: do have to go through the Jags game. The Jags
Speaker 2: beat the Colts and somehow managed to cover. This is
Speaker 2: another one where if you have the Colts that you
Speaker 2: didn't cover, yeap oh geez. After three three an ounce
Speaker 2: to start the game, two from Indianapolis, one from Jacksonville,
Speaker 2: third and seven from the Jacksonville h third and seven
Speaker 2: to four Jacksonville the Indianapolis nine, Lawrence to Ridley on
Speaker 2: a scramble seven to nothing Jacksonville. Calvin Ridley coming back
Speaker 2: from the ARLA in Florida with a touchdown monster game
Speaker 2: and suing drive. Colts go seventy five yards, culminating in
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson designed run two yards up the gut start
Speaker 2: the second quarter seven to seven. Next Jaggs drive Lawrence
Speaker 2: intended for Tank Bigsby intercepted by Tony Brown on the bounce,
Speaker 2: but Jags d holds on Richardson's soft for no gain
Speaker 2: on fourth and one at the Jacksonville sixteen with eleven
Speaker 2: to fifty eight left in the second quarter. By the way, Kelly,
Speaker 2: Colts also failed to convert a fourth and fourth at
Speaker 2: Jacksonville forty two with eight fifty five left second quarter
Speaker 2: on an incomplete pass intended for Michael Pittman Junr. So
Speaker 2: it's still seven to seven. By the way, I was
Speaker 2: asking Kelly, you know, oh, what did you think about
Speaker 2: this sport down? And you said, appropriately you're on the air,
Speaker 2: there's a thousand fourth downs down. Really, you have no
Speaker 2: idea what's what when you're doing a show, if you're
Speaker 2: doing a show during this, so I'll stop asking you.
Speaker 2: Jaggs then go fifty eight yards of the house on
Speaker 2: a Lawrence's Zay Jones eighteen yard touchdown pass. By the way,
Speaker 2: that was a thing of beauty at Zay Jones catch
Speaker 2: in the corner fourteen to seven, Jacksonville four fifty six
Speaker 2: left first halp and Suing drive first and ten at
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville forty one four nineteen left. Second quarter, Richardson
Speaker 2: Deon Jackson, hit by Andre Cisco fumbles. Angelo Blackson recovers
Speaker 2: for Jacksonville, but the Jags can't capitalize. Forced to punt.
Speaker 2: Third quarter after the Jags forced to a three and out.
Speaker 2: Forced into a three and out, Indianapolis goes sixty three
Speaker 2: yards Richardson to Pittman Junior for thirty nine fourteen to fourteen.
Speaker 2: First touchdown pass of Richardson's career. Who was the best
Speaker 2: rookie performance yesterday, by the way with the court Oh,
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson, Yeah, I think so. I was beyond impressed.
Speaker 2: Jags follow with a field goal drive Brandon McManus from
Speaker 2: forty five to seventeen to fourteen Jags. Now, after the
Speaker 2: Colts go three and out, the Jags go ford fourth
Speaker 2: and one at the Indianapols forty nine. Lawrence to having
Speaker 2: ingram no gain, turned the ball over four plays later,
Speaker 2: still seventeen to fourteen Jags three to nineteen left third quarter,
Speaker 2: fourth and one for the Colts of the Jacksonville forty two.
Speaker 2: Dion Jackson hit for a four yard loss, actually fumbles
Speaker 2: after getting hit by Tyson Campbell and recovered by Devin Lloyd.
Speaker 2: Next play, now, this is with Jacksonville up. Lawrence sacked
Speaker 2: by DeForest Buckner, fumbles. None of the Jags really react.
Speaker 2: The whistle doesn't blow. Tank Bigsby of the Jags has
Speaker 2: the ball standing upright and not moving. It gets slapped
Speaker 2: out of his hands by an alert Zye Franklin. Buckner
Speaker 2: picks it up twenty six yards, scoop and score to
Speaker 2: the house touchdown, Colts twenty one to seventeen. They are
Speaker 2: beating the Jaguars. Could this happen? Teams trade three and
Speaker 2: ouns Jags fourth and one at the Indianapolis forty eight.
Speaker 2: How many fourth downs were attempted in this game alone?
Speaker 2: My goodness, thirteen oh one left Trevor Lawrence stuff for
Speaker 2: no game. So the Colts have the ball up in
Speaker 2: this game and it would take two scores for them
Speaker 2: not to cover. Well, guess what happens? Colts forced upunt
Speaker 2: Jamal Agnew returns at forty eight yards, flips the field.
Speaker 2: Jags started at the Indianapolis forty six. They end up
Speaker 2: with a fourth and two of the Indianapolis fifteen with
Speaker 2: seven to twenty six left. They go for it, convert
Speaker 2: on a Lawrence to Zay Jones four yard completion. Three
Speaker 2: plays later, Bigsby in from one twenty four to twenty one.
Speaker 2: Jacksonville ensuing drives second play second in ten at their
Speaker 2: own twenty five. Richardson pick by Tyson Campbell three plays later,
Speaker 2: ets Enn from twenty six thirty one twenty one Jacksonville
Speaker 2: with four to oh eight left. They are gonna cover?
Speaker 2: Or are they? Colts started at their own twenty five
Speaker 2: four oh eight left matriculated down the field threatening the
Speaker 2: back door cover convert a fourth and five at the
Speaker 2: Jacksonville eight with one twenty eight left on a Richardson
Speaker 2: five yard run which knocked him out of the game.
Speaker 2: It ends up fourth and goal at the one with
Speaker 2: fifty two seconds left total. Plankoh Gardner, Minshew, they're all plink.
Speaker 1: O the place you would love to have Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: two right, fourth and one. Oh, just fall forward with
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson.
Speaker 2: Let me just say this, ladies and gentlemen, if you
Speaker 2: ever ever forget that these games are all plink oh please.
Speaker 2: Week one should be a reminder. Minshow in Minshew incomplete
Speaker 2: intended for Pittman ballgame. Colts having no timeouts left thirty
Speaker 2: one to twenty one Jags Lawrence twenty four of thirty
Speaker 2: two for two forty one, two touchdowns, one Picky a
Speaker 2: sack twice. Ridley in his first game back from the
Speaker 2: infamous Parlan in Florida eight catches for one on one
Speaker 2: in a touchdown. Is this the game of the week?
Speaker 2: I would say Casey's blanket minus three. I'm gonnay, it's
Speaker 2: a blanket minus three at Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting line movement on this game. We did see threes.
Speaker 1: It is two and a half everywhere there, although except
Speaker 1: we do have a two in the Warwick get plays
Speaker 1: too right behind his here at SERG Sports doo w Yeah, yep,
Speaker 1: So coming on down on that number.
Speaker 2: A little bit, Kelsey gonna play. Sounds like that's all
Speaker 2: I like it. Yes, if it's two or two and
Speaker 2: a half, I'll take the show.
Speaker 1: They were pulling the whole sounds like he could have
Speaker 1: gone on Thursday if they really needed to wanted to
Speaker 1: hold him out.
Speaker 2: Big game this week. Oh there's still though, There still
Speaker 2: is no Chris Jones, So maybe I should pause.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely, I guess I in Jacks, I
Speaker 1: guess I thought would look a little bit better yesterday.
Speaker 1: But the Colts Anthony Richardson was really really impressive to me.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll keep on cruising here. Sunday one Eastern
Speaker 1: Colts at Texans Colts we just talked about.
Speaker 2: Richardson was twenty four for thirty seven for two twenty three,
Speaker 2: one touchdown, one pick. He was sacked four times, ten
Speaker 2: carries for forty yards in the touchdown. Speaking of rookie quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: c J. Stroud in defeat. We talked about the game
Speaker 2: against Baltimore. Twenty eight for forty four for two forty two,
Speaker 2: no touchdowns, no picks. He was sacked five times. He
Speaker 2: did have four carries for twenty yards, but he lost
Speaker 2: a fumble. Houston in the and out gain Baltimore. As
Speaker 2: we mentioned, two sixty eight to two sixty five. Houston
Speaker 2: also had nine penalties for eighty eight yards in Tamico
Speaker 2: Ryan's first game as a head coach. Boy, oh man,
Speaker 2: what should this be? I have Houston minus one and
Speaker 2: a half? Am I way off on this?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, you're like all over it? It is Uh,
Speaker 1: it is Houston minus one at DraftKings. There's a couple
Speaker 1: one and a half's out there, one or one and
Speaker 1: a half Houston.
Speaker 2: If you had asked me to guess about my guesses,
Speaker 2: I would have said I would have been way more
Speaker 2: off on this than I was on the Bears Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay game.
Speaker 1: Yeah. If if you'd posted three either way on this game,
Speaker 1: I don't think I'd be shocked.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't want any part of this either. I well,
Speaker 2: no outcome would surprise.
Speaker 1: Assuming Anthony Richardson will play in this game? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I nothing unless I don't know, if this ticks up
Speaker 1: a little bit, maybe Colton a teaser. I was impressed
Speaker 1: with richardson yesterday. Man, I'll tell you they like small
Speaker 1: winning we for me could have been huge. I was
Speaker 1: loaded up with matt On. Those Richards were Richards and
Speaker 1: rushing props. The only reason he didn't get there because
Speaker 1: the guy passed so well. I mean, he was completing
Speaker 1: passes early in the game that he just didn't he
Speaker 1: didn't have to.
Speaker 2: Well, let's do that review so here. I was three
Speaker 2: and two in the contest. I deserve Dallas. That was
Speaker 2: my favorite play of the week. We'll get to that obviously,
Speaker 2: easy peasy. And I think I deserve Baltimore. I don't
Speaker 2: think I deserve Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Yep, me either.
Speaker 2: And in my two losses, I certainly earned the Pittsburgh loss,
Speaker 2: and then what was my other loss I can't even
Speaker 2: remember now. I had Seattle, Oh Denver. Denver was my loss,
Speaker 2: and I think I earned that. I mean that could
Speaker 2: have gone but there was no bad beat involved anyway.
Speaker 2: So I mean the could I have just as easily
Speaker 2: been two and three, absolutely right, right, And that's probably
Speaker 2: That's probably a short week in terms of what could
Speaker 2: have gone either way. Usually there's two or three of
Speaker 2: those gone three and two.
Speaker 1: I didn't have Jags as one of my one of
Speaker 1: my plays, but I had him as a bet like
Speaker 1: there are. There are a lot of lucky bets I
Speaker 1: won yesterday for all the for the weeks that we
Speaker 1: know were coming. Gil where we're gonna to complain about
Speaker 1: a bad beating too, I will take it today where
Speaker 1: I want a couple of lucky bets.
Speaker 2: That's exactly that's exactly right. We're going to keep track
Speaker 2: of which could have gone our way gone against us
Speaker 2: right now, I am one luckier than the.
Speaker 1: Plus two in plus yeah plus one.
Speaker 2: And by the way, just in general, how much more
Speaker 2: of a money making vehicle is college football than this?
Speaker 2: This is my sugar? Oh yeah, totally, Oh but we
Speaker 2: love it so more. Week two lines to guess on
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Speaker 2: at beating the book. Let me just read a couple.
Speaker 2: These are all tribute to Chrissy. Chris Folica. Feels like
Speaker 2: an empty Monday now that I will not hear Chrissy Telgil,
Speaker 2: I like your number better. This is from Nicholas Griggs.
Speaker 2: I'll especially miss hearing Chrissy. Chrissy's phone notifications. You always
Speaker 2: know when he received an email that's correct.
Speaker 1: We have a let. We have a lot of serial abusers.
Speaker 2: Of that here at Visa and Buddhist Man. Chrissy unplugging
Speaker 2: Kelly's headset Mike Cable mid segment is a heel turn
Speaker 2: that almost nobody expected. Oh man, so so far, so far.
Speaker 2: I like the Seahawks and the Chargers.
Speaker 1: The best Chargers are my favorite so far. It's not
Speaker 1: a game I bet yet. But as we were kind
Speaker 1: of just talking break or coming right into breaking, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know whether to bet this three
Speaker 1: to hour hope that it goes to a two and
Speaker 1: a half. I just don't know who's betting on the
Speaker 1: Titans after yesterday.
Speaker 2: A surprising line to me, Yeah, I think that's are
Speaker 2: we in the afternoon yet?
Speaker 1: By the way, uh first afternoon game four oh five
Speaker 1: Eastern forty Niners at the Unstoppable Rams. By the way,
Speaker 1: that's yes, I lost money on that.
Speaker 2: Those Rams and the Seahawks are the one that they
Speaker 2: quote unquote sharp betters got the most wrong.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, were the sharps all over Seattle?
Speaker 2: Oh my god?
Speaker 1: I thought it was all the squares like meta that.
Speaker 2: Were until the move at the end. I guess, but
Speaker 2: I'm just saying anecdotally over this summer. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But and we even talked about it on Friday, like, yes,
Speaker 1: I probably made too much of it. But like the
Speaker 1: Stafford and his receivers thing, Stafford carved it up with
Speaker 1: nobody wide receivers out there.
Speaker 2: Get into that a second, because I think I have
Speaker 2: a bet that I'd like to suggest, By the way,
Speaker 2: that was the uh, that was the thing about the
Speaker 2: losing the Broncos entry. I had five entries. Uh, two
Speaker 2: were on the Ravens, two were on the Commodoores, and
Speaker 2: one was on the Broncos. And again I will say
Speaker 2: that you played a win, but the first five weeks
Speaker 2: we don't know anything. Just try to play it, you know,
Speaker 2: try to survive.
Speaker 1: I one got through, No big deal, You're one game
Speaker 1: easy all the way with the Commanders.
Speaker 2: By the way we got we got super fortunate with
Speaker 2: that get even. I can't even be upset about the
Speaker 2: Broncos because you know I would have had the Seahawks
Speaker 2: if not the Broncos on that one. Niners oil boy?
Speaker 2: Who did was I? Was I wrong about this one?
Speaker 2: And I'm a Niners guy? Why did I? Why did
Speaker 2: I talk myself into the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Because Mike Thomas ever had a losing season as a
Speaker 1: Steelers head coach.
Speaker 2: Come on, you do this start for your under After
Speaker 2: the Niners held Pittsburgh to a three and own on
Speaker 2: the opening drive, Niners first drive, fourth and one at
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh forty five eleven thirty four left first quarter,
Speaker 2: zero zero game, perty to Kittle for eleven three plays later,
Speaker 2: perty do I yuke from eight out, seven to nothing,
Speaker 2: Niners first touchdown of the NFL season, by the way,
Speaker 2: for anyone. When the Niners scored that ensuing drive third play,
Speaker 2: third and five at their own thirty two eight oh
Speaker 2: eight left, first quarter, piket picked by Sharvarius Ward, they
Speaker 2: settle for a Jake Moody forty one yard field goal.
Speaker 2: Ten to nothing, Niners four to thirty eight left first
Speaker 2: quarter totally yards. First quarter Niners one hundred and forty
Speaker 2: Steelers two. After Steelers third straight three play drive to
Speaker 2: start the season, the Niners go sixty eight yard. It's
Speaker 2: pretty dauke from nineteen out, seventeen to nothing, Niners thirteen
Speaker 2: thirty left in the second quarter. Next Steelers drive, picket
Speaker 2: throws it right to Fred Warner, who drops it. Could
Speaker 2: have been even worse another three it out instead. Steelers
Speaker 2: first five possessions, zero first downs, one net yard. But
Speaker 2: the Steelers start the six drive down twenty to nothing
Speaker 2: with one thirty five left in the half at their
Speaker 2: own five. They go ninety five yards, culminating in a
Speaker 2: picket to Friar mooth three yard touchdown pass with nine
Speaker 2: seconds left in the half, twenty to seven. Here come
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Nope, perdy by the Way fourteen for twenty
Speaker 2: one one fifty four first half, two touchdowns, no pick
Speaker 2: sack ones two twenty two to seventy seven total yards
Speaker 2: advantage for San Francisco even after that ninety five yard
Speaker 2: drive sacks included by the way fourteen to six advantage
Speaker 2: on first downs twenty one ozh six to eight fifty
Speaker 2: four in time of possession first half in favor of
Speaker 2: the Niners. Third quarter it ended right here. Second play,
Speaker 2: just when you thought, okay, could the Steelers make this
Speaker 2: a game? Nope, McCaffrey sixty five yards the house twenty
Speaker 2: seven to seven. Niners, Momentum gone. Pittsburgh punt, San Francisco
Speaker 2: pont Pittsburgh punt first and ten for the for the
Speaker 2: Niners at the Pittsburgh thirty eight perty sacked by T. J. Watt, fumbles,
Speaker 2: Watt recovers. Steelers end up with the fourth and fourth,
Speaker 2: the San Francisco eight, with two h six left in
Speaker 2: the third quarter. They go for it down twenty pick
Speaker 2: it incomplete intended for Friarmouth Niners going to win it
Speaker 2: thirty to seven perty nineteen for twenty nine for two
Speaker 2: twenty two touchdowns, no pick, sack three times three for
Speaker 2: twenty on the ground, he lost the fumble McCaffrey twenty
Speaker 2: two for one point fifty two in a touchdown. He's
Speaker 2: pretty good. I Uke eight catches one twenty nine, two touchdowns,
Speaker 2: out gain Pittsburgh three ninety one to two thirty nine.
Speaker 2: The outtime of possession them thirty seven twenty three to
Speaker 2: twenty two thirty seven. They did have eleven penalties for
Speaker 2: eighty five yards. The Rams, as we talked about, already
Speaker 2: beat already beating the Seahawks. Stafford ended up twenty four
Speaker 2: of thirty eight for three thirty four at Well two
Speaker 2: two at Well six for one nineteen. And you're ready
Speaker 2: for a long shot offensive rookie of the year play.
Speaker 1: You have it to me.
Speaker 2: Pooka Nkua. Yeah, Pooka Nakua. Everybody of the Rams ten
Speaker 2: catches for one hundred and nineteen yards on fifteen targets.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Michael Montesano's son. He was all over
Speaker 2: this first fifth round pick out of byu Puka Nakua
Speaker 2: ten for one to nineteen on fifteen targets they held. Seattle.
Speaker 2: The Rams did to thirteen first downs, two of nine
Speaker 2: on third downs, one hundred and eighty total yards, again
Speaker 2: outgaining them four twenty six to one eighty three, thirty
Speaker 2: four to ninety five in the passing game, thirty nine
Speaker 2: twenty three to twenty thirty seven in time of possession.
Speaker 2: They outscored Seattle twenty three to nothing in the second half.
Speaker 2: All of that said, I'll say San Francisco by a
Speaker 2: full touchdown seven on the road.
Speaker 1: This was I think most shocking result to me of
Speaker 1: the week, and it is dead seven everywhere San Francisco
Speaker 1: seven painted across the board. If I like it, you're
Speaker 1: absolutely on it, and that might actually end up being
Speaker 1: a bed for me.
Speaker 2: Okay on the Niners.
Speaker 1: On the Niners, Okay, yeah, I don't trust Show me again, Stafford,
Speaker 1: Show me again against them. This is not the Seahawks
Speaker 1: defense that you're going up against. Is the Niners defense.
Speaker 1: Show me it again against that defense.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Four O five Eastern Giants at Cardinals.
Speaker 2: Giants and Cardinal Oh boy, Giants. Case you missed this
Speaker 2: last night, well you didn't miss much. Giants take the
Speaker 2: opening drive all the way to the Dallas eight yard line.
Speaker 2: This is the first drive of the game, and you're like, oh, boy, Giants, boy,
Speaker 2: they are something special. That's the peak of their game
Speaker 2: right there. Third and two. Andrew Thomas, who hadn't false
Speaker 2: started all year last year, fall starts. Then John Michael
Speaker 2: Schmidz Junior snaps the ball over Daniel Jones' head. Jones
Speaker 2: recovers for a fourteen yard loss. Then Graham Gno. Forty
Speaker 2: five yard field goal blocked by Noah Igbanaghini, who jumps
Speaker 2: over the line blocks the kIPS, blocks the kick, scoops
Speaker 2: it and takes it to the house. Six to nothing Dallas.
Speaker 2: Brandon Aubrey hooks the extra point wide left. Next Giants
Speaker 2: drive three and out. Micah Parsons with the sack to
Speaker 2: force the punt. Cowboys next drive, third and fourth, their
Speaker 2: own thirty two big dack to Lamb forty nine yard
Speaker 2: passing catch eventually leads to a Brandon Aubrey twenty one
Speaker 2: yard chip shot nine to nothing Dallas, three twenty one
Speaker 2: left in the first quarter. You're still like, Okay, what's
Speaker 2: only nine to nothing? Sirt ball game? Sure, subsequent Giants
Speaker 2: drive after DeMarcus Lawrence sack on first down two plays later,
Speaker 2: third and nineteen from their own sixteen two thirty left
Speaker 2: in the first quarter, Jones intended for Saquon perfectly timed
Speaker 2: hit by Trayvon Diggs. Ball pops up in the air,
Speaker 2: snatched by Deron Bland twenty two yards to the hiszy
Speaker 2: sixteen to nothing Dallas twenty two left in the first quarter.
Speaker 2: And now you're like, oh boy, Giants three and out.
Speaker 2: I mean, I like the Cowboys big. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I like the misplay second quarter, Dallas matriculates after
Speaker 2: three and out. Dallas matriculates settle for a thirty eight
Speaker 2: yard field goal from Aubrey nineteen to nothing, ten to
Speaker 2: fifty five left. Next drive, and here's where it just
Speaker 2: gets comical. First play, first and tenth the rown, twenty five,
Speaker 2: Jones picked by Stefan Gilmore. They take over. Dallas does
Speaker 2: it the Giants thirty eight five plays later, pollared in
Speaker 2: from two twenty six to nothing, Dallas eight h three left,
Speaker 2: eighty bar the door down twenty six. Giants convert a
Speaker 2: fourth in five of the Dallas forty eight twenty two
Speaker 2: to Waller throw the ball. The waller come on, but
Speaker 2: it ends at a mystic a no thirty six yard
Speaker 2: attempt at that point is just comical, twenty six to nothing.
Speaker 2: It remains into the half and then third quarter. Dallas
Speaker 2: takes the opening drive seventy five yards and four minutes
Speaker 2: fifty nine seconds. Pollared in from one out thirty three
Speaker 2: to nothing with fumble luck thrown in by the way
Speaker 2: when Pollard coughed it up and Dallas recovered at the four.
Speaker 2: No point in continuing other than why we're Dak Pollard
Speaker 2: in lamb still in the game? Fourth?
Speaker 1: No idea? I mean, okay, I was screaming about that
Speaker 1: last night, but then I remembered earlier in the day,
Speaker 1: Gill when I when I wondered multiple times, hey, shouldn't
Speaker 1: a lot of these teams maybe be playing some of
Speaker 1: these guys in the preseason, So I may I kind
Speaker 1: of backtracked and thought, maybe it's some of that going on.
Speaker 2: But I go, in Dallas's case, you win at forty
Speaker 2: to nothing, get him out of the game. Jones ends
Speaker 2: up fifteen or twenty eight for the Giants for only
Speaker 2: one oh four, no touchdowns, two picks. He was sacked
Speaker 2: seven times, thirteen to forty three on the ground. Giants
Speaker 2: held at one hundred and seventy one total yards. They
Speaker 2: were minus three and turnovers led directly to fourteen Dallas
Speaker 2: points Arizona first. They just handed this game to Washington.
Speaker 2: Washington tried to give him the game. Arizona wouldn't take it.
Speaker 2: First quarter, first intenth to Washington eight for the Commodes.
Speaker 2: Howell sacked by Cameron Thomas, fifteen yard un sportsman like penalty.
Speaker 2: Three plays later, Another fifteen yard penalty on the Cardinals
Speaker 2: two plays later, a thirty seven yard PI because you
Speaker 2: can't cover the incomparable Terry McLaurin. Two plays later, Howel
Speaker 2: to Robinson from eight out, seven to nothing, Skinnies seven
Speaker 2: to three, Commodores first intended on twenty nine, fourteen to
Speaker 2: fifty four left second quarter, Howell hit as he throws
Speaker 2: picked up by Zavian Collins Matt Prater from fifty four
Speaker 2: to seven to six. Washington first and ten at the
Speaker 2: Arizona nineteen for the Taco holders, seven to six, eight
Speaker 2: fifty five left second quarter, Antonio Gibson hit by Victor
Speaker 2: jimuki Je. Zaven Collins recovers seven to six, game, third
Speaker 2: in ten in their own twenty six, one oh two
Speaker 2: left in the half. Howell sacked by Dennis Ardeck, fumble
Speaker 2: scoop by Cameron Thomas two yards of the goal line, touchdown,
Speaker 2: Arizona thirteen to seven, Cardinals thirteen to ten at the half.
Speaker 2: After the Commanders, the Commandeers and matriculate sixty nine yards
Speaker 2: and forty six seconds and get a sly thirty yard
Speaker 2: field goal. Howell first half fifteen of twenty four for
Speaker 2: one to sixty nine, one touchdown, one pick, sack, four
Speaker 2: times fumble loss. Washington football team sixteen first downs, Cardinals
Speaker 2: five in the first half one seventy one to oneif
Speaker 2: seventeen total yards advantage, but they were minus three in
Speaker 2: turnovers minus three and turnovers down three. Third quarter Cardinals
Speaker 2: opened up half of the field goal drive Prader from
Speaker 2: thirty seven to sixteen to ten, Skins punt cards, punt
Speaker 2: Skins punt cards have third and fifteen from their own
Speaker 2: thirty five nine seconds left in the third quarter. Montes
Speaker 2: sweat sacks, Dobbs, fumbles drawn, Payne recovers. Washington takes over
Speaker 2: seven plays later, third and goal the six. Howel takes
Speaker 2: it in himself and the Burgundian gold leads seventeen to sixteen,
Speaker 2: eleven forty eight left, and after the team's trade punts
Speaker 2: Arizona once again with Dobbs fumbling, Abdula Anderson recovering, and
Speaker 2: Washington goes on to hold on to the game. Based
Speaker 2: on those turnovers, twenty to sixteen, two thirty three left
Speaker 2: is when they went up. They never relinquished the lead.
Speaker 2: We'll get the guests on that and all the other games.
Speaker 2: That big matchup between the Giants and the Cardinals next
Speaker 2: numbers game VSA the Sports Betting Network again tomorrow. On
Speaker 2: the show, we'll get into the great tennis weekend, obviously
Speaker 2: Coco Goff and Novak Djokovic winning the US Open. We'll
Speaker 2: get into just an amazing stretch of baseball where, by
Speaker 2: the way, you see this, like Felika texted me yesterday,
Speaker 2: it goes you see, the Yankees got no hit through
Speaker 2: ten and a third. Yesterday we're all watching football, so
Speaker 2: we're locked in. The Yankees got so again. The Yankees
Speaker 2: got no hit through ten and a third and this
Speaker 2: won the game.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, no, I did not I did not
Speaker 1: see that against the Brewers.
Speaker 2: We'll have to talk about that. The edl wild card
Speaker 2: for the race for the third spot is super tight
Speaker 2: for with four teams, so we got to get into that.
Speaker 2: And of course college football. Boy, do I have a
Speaker 2: message for all you people who are modeling against Colorado.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, stop with the modeling. Yeah, college football, it
Speaker 2: was fun, Henoflage football. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: A couple weeks.
Speaker 2: Let me just do the guess on the on the
Speaker 2: we'll get through a bunch of these now. Because the
Speaker 2: Giant Car Giants at Cardinals, by the way, Dobbs in
Speaker 2: defeats Washington won that twenty to sixteen. Dobbs was twenty
Speaker 2: one of thirty for one thirty two. Not the worst
Speaker 2: thing when you just met everybody, Yeah, for real. Two
Speaker 2: fumbles lost. He was sack three times. First fumble, of course,
Speaker 2: led to the game tying touchdown in the fourth and
Speaker 2: the second essentially sealed the win for Washington. Though it
Speaker 2: wasn't straightforward for Washington down the stretch. Four to fifty
Speaker 2: eight total combined yards in this game forty eight to
Speaker 2: two ten in favor of Washington, only thirteen first downs
Speaker 2: for the Cardinals. I will say the Giants will still
Speaker 2: be huge favorites on the road in quotes huge because
Speaker 2: they're on the road. I'll say it's no man's land
Speaker 2: of minus five and a half.
Speaker 1: Four and a half, no man's land four and a half.
Speaker 2: It was between four and a half and five.
Speaker 1: Yeah, four and a half. And you know what, I know,
Speaker 1: they got absolutely destroyed last night. It feels a little
Speaker 1: light to me. I think this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: little bit of an.
Speaker 2: Over I said this about the Commanders, I said last week,
Speaker 2: I said, this is a must win. This is a
Speaker 2: must win for them to beat the Cardinals, the tanking Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Rights, yes, they almost did, and they almost did it.
Speaker 2: They almost didn't. This is a must win for the Giants, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is a win for the Giants because again, as
Speaker 2: tough as and we were railing about how tough you know,
Speaker 2: the Jets first six week gauntlet was, well, my goodness.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're the New York Giants, you you
Speaker 2: lose this game to Arizona. Do you know what you
Speaker 2: have after this? After this game, you are at San
Speaker 2: Francisco home Seattle, at Miami at Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Oh, that season kicking ugly real quick.
Speaker 2: That is a must win game, must win? All right,
Speaker 2: what's next?
Speaker 1: Afternoon on Sunday, Sunday four twenty five, Eastern Jets at Cowboys.
Speaker 2: All right, Jets unseen Jets of course again two point dogs?
Speaker 2: Is it now to Buffalo at home tonight? What is
Speaker 2: the number?
Speaker 1: Let's see, we're sitting yeah, pretty much two everywhere, even
Speaker 1: one one and a half at MGM.
Speaker 2: I have no pre flop on this. This will be
Speaker 2: an end game thing. Aaron Rodgers debut for the Jets,
Speaker 2: so sight unseen on them at Dallas, Dak in that
Speaker 2: win last night. I mean again, Dak didn't have to
Speaker 2: do much, thirteen of twenty four for one three. The
Speaker 2: big thing is he snapped his streak of seven straight
Speaker 2: games with a pick, didn't throw a pick.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: They held the Giants. The Cowboys did to one hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy one totally yards and again we're plus three
Speaker 2: in turnovers. That was the story, leading directly to fourteen
Speaker 2: Dallas points. Sight unseen on the Jets. I'll see Dallas
Speaker 2: minus four minus three.
Speaker 1: All right, well we'll see the Jets, which I don't
Speaker 1: think they really adjusted. So we're sitting three, which I
Speaker 1: think that was the line. Okay, before you know, before
Speaker 1: Sunday but that.
Speaker 2: Was my line of about Dallas. That reason why I
Speaker 2: was my favorite pick, not only because I'm low on
Speaker 2: the Giants, but the line I used was, Dallas, if
Speaker 2: you're as good as you're supposed to be, you should
Speaker 2: crush the Giants.
Speaker 1: That was most of my bets yesterday were pre season
Speaker 1: conviction bets, right it was. I laid it with the Jags,
Speaker 1: I laid it with the Eagles, laid it with the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: simply because of that high on those teams against teams
Speaker 1: I'm not higher.
Speaker 2: By the way, I didn't bet this, but imagine people
Speaker 2: who had highest scoring team, lowest scoring team. If you
Speaker 2: had the Packers, let's just say in some universe you
Speaker 2: had the Packers of the highest scoring team, and then
Speaker 2: the Cowboys go out and drop forty to nail you
Speaker 2: last night, and the convers of the other part. If
Speaker 2: you had the Bengals lowest at three and then the
Speaker 2: Giants put up a goose egg, that would be I.
Speaker 1: Didn't even think about that. That's a good.
Speaker 2: Point, brutal, you were holding your Bengals tickets like this
Speaker 2: is the greatest bet I've ever made.
Speaker 1: So there are a couple three and a halves out
Speaker 1: there for that game that I guess at Pop this morning.
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's going Cowboys way, which I guess
Speaker 1: would be no surprise with us not seeing the Jets yet.
Speaker 1: Next up in the afternoon, four twenty five Eastern Commanders
Speaker 1: at Broncos. Who's excited for this? Oh boy, Howell Howell?
Speaker 2: And what's the total on this? I wonder, Howell, you
Speaker 2: tell me what's the total on this?
Speaker 1: The total on this is thirty eight and a half
Speaker 1: thirty nine, thirty eight and a half through nine.
Speaker 2: Sam Howell in victory for Washington. Actually it was nineteen
Speaker 2: of thirty one for two h two, one touchdown, one pick,
Speaker 2: but he was sacked six times and again lost that
Speaker 2: funnel which was the scoop and score that put Arizona
Speaker 2: up thirteen to seven. And then Russell Wilson in defeat,
Speaker 2: the one point loss, the miss extra point loss to
Speaker 2: the Raiders, in which Sean Payton for all of his
Speaker 2: schmack talking, listen, you had a whole game to make
Speaker 2: up for it, but that on side kick backfired on
Speaker 2: You spotted the Raiders, almost almost spotted them a seven
Speaker 2: to nothing leader, or set them up to go up
Speaker 2: seven to nothing. Wilson was twenty seven of thirty four
Speaker 2: for one to seventy seven, two touchdowns. No Pixy was
Speaker 2: sacked two times. They had ten penalties for eighty three yards.
Speaker 2: I guess Denver minus three. I'm also gonna guess I'm
Speaker 2: probably low on this.
Speaker 1: Denver three and a half, three and a half over
Speaker 1: Atfkings and that.
Speaker 2: Is I say this as a Washington guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's three and a half.
Speaker 2: But if that gets the three, I may take them.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, man, I didn't see many positives that's gonna
Speaker 1: be I have. I don't want anything to do with
Speaker 1: that game.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 1: If I do anything would be under a pass, even
Speaker 1: at thirty eight and a half thirty Now, you're probably right,
Speaker 1: I'll probably pass like that. It is gross. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I saw a ton out of the Bronco.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of games we saw yesterday and teams
Speaker 1: we saw that I think are still tricky to figure out.
Speaker 1: So what did we see? Some high completion percentage from
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, But it's all dink and dunk stuff, right.
Speaker 2: There are so many bad quarterback lines. Yeah, there really are. Again,
Speaker 2: maybe this I mean again the joke about being a
Speaker 2: fourth game of the preseason. There's there's a kernel of
Speaker 2: truth that rings in that, because it's like, this is
Speaker 2: kind of what that is, these guys having anemic lines
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me. I would love to know what the
Speaker 1: average completion across the board was for average distance of
Speaker 1: completions yesterday, because.
Speaker 2: It was so low Burrow and Ritter and Chino, I know, terrible, horrible.
Speaker 1: Okay, cruise on to the Sunday night game, Dolphins at Patriots.
Speaker 2: That's a Sunday night game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got two on Monday night. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh that's a good that's a good Sunday night game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: Tua was twenty eight for forty five in that win,
Speaker 2: that thirty six to thirty four win over the Chargers,
Speaker 2: for four hundred and sixty six yards, three touchdown, one pick.
Speaker 2: He was not sacked. He did lose that fumble at
Speaker 2: the two yard line on the opening drive. Ty Reek
Speaker 2: eleven for two fifteen, two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He's good.
Speaker 2: So Tua was is the second quarterback now in Miami
Speaker 2: history with multiple four hundred plus yard games, Dan Marino
Speaker 2: of course being the other. And for Tyreek that's his
Speaker 2: tenth career game with ten plus catches and one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty plus yards. Tyreek said before the season he
Speaker 2: wants to he wants to have two thousand yards receiving. Well,
Speaker 2: he's more than ten percent of the way there. They
Speaker 2: outgained the Chargers five thirty six to four to thirty
Speaker 2: three again, four to sixty six to one ninety nine
Speaker 2: in the passing game, and they were minus two and turnovers.
Speaker 2: That big fumble at the two yard line could have
Speaker 2: been huge. And then there's the Patriots. Mac Jones in
Speaker 2: defeat thirty five of fifty four for three to sixteen,
Speaker 2: three touchdowns, one picks, He was sacked twice. They outgained
Speaker 2: Philly the Patriots did three eighty two to two fifty one.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Miami minus.
Speaker 1: Three on the road, Dolphins two and a half at DraftKings.
Speaker 1: Right now, well, I think this opened three. Let me
Speaker 1: check this is two and a half two basically everywhere
Speaker 1: now I found it opened three.
Speaker 2: So again again with that Philly Patriots game, we ended
Speaker 2: up cashing. We probably weren't on the right side. And
Speaker 2: New England, I will say this, their defense did look spectacular.
Speaker 2: Nick Sirianni was giving them all kinds of praise after
Speaker 2: the game. So I don't want to make the mistake
Speaker 2: of even though we got away with it week one,
Speaker 2: I don't want to make the mistake of underrating them again.
Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, no, no, I feel the same way.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: In the Dolphins team was a team that I was
Speaker 1: I feel like I was higher on the most preseas
Speaker 1: and I don't have any interest yet betting this, betting
Speaker 1: this game. I mean it would be Dolphins or past still,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going there.
Speaker 2: What was your biggest takeaway from the from both of
Speaker 2: these games? So the Eagles Patriots was that more Eagles
Speaker 2: were just rusty and you underrated the Patriots. I think
Speaker 2: both of those things are true. And then in the
Speaker 2: Chargers Dolphins, what's the biggest takeaway that, like Brandon Staley's
Speaker 2: still the defense still doesn't like again Nick Bosa.
Speaker 1: I think two wildly different.
Speaker 2: Khalil Mack, Ac Jackson can't stop.
Speaker 1: We've added all these guys on this defense. We every
Speaker 1: offseason we rave about how much better this defense is
Speaker 1: going to be, and it still just gets absolutely blitzed
Speaker 1: by the Dolphins, Like it's I think that one is
Speaker 1: just wow. This this feels I'm high on both the
Speaker 1: Dolphins and the Chargers. What I was what I was
Speaker 1: high on about them was their offense and can either
Speaker 1: one of you show me some semblance of defense? Right, Well,
Speaker 1: we didn't get that yesterday. Eagles Patriots, So to say,
Speaker 1: it feels like same old Dolphin, same old Chargers as
Speaker 1: we could go into Week two, as we go into
Speaker 1: the rest of the season. That other game you bring up,
Speaker 1: I mean a guy was on the air, but it
Speaker 1: made it even more confusing because Eagles jump out to
Speaker 1: a sixteen to nothing.
Speaker 2: Start and then the Patriots kind of dominated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's like three and out, three and out,
Speaker 1: three and out for the Eagles, and the Patriots are
Speaker 1: moving it.
Speaker 2: As we documented, the Patriots had roughly seventy five chances
Speaker 2: to win.
Speaker 1: They really did. The one thing I don't believe is
Speaker 1: that Bill Belichick is going to be fine going forward
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones throwing the ball what fifty one times?
Speaker 1: Is that what he had finished with? I don't think
Speaker 1: that's going to be the game win for the Pats.
Speaker 2: Fifty four past, fifty four past steps all right, the
Speaker 2: two Monday night games on the other side. What we
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Speaker 2: Joshua Dobbs quote, I think a huge jump is in
Speaker 2: store for the Arizona offense.
Speaker 1: Unquote I'm amazed at how positive josh Dobbs always is.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy, like he was the guy when
Speaker 1: he first got there. He's like, you know, I'm confident
Speaker 1: we're gonna be ready, And I'm like rolling my eyes, like, dude,
Speaker 1: you got two weeks from one of the worst rosters
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I don't think you're going to be ready.
Speaker 2: Tyreek Offensive Player of the Year odds eleven to one,
Speaker 2: FanDuel nine to one. DraftKings MVP Tyreek one hundred to one. Again,
Speaker 2: they don't give that.
Speaker 1: MVP going in.
Speaker 2: They just don't give it to him.
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year, go for it. I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't hate that bed at all.
Speaker 2: Let me just before we get to the Monday night games.
Speaker 2: By the way, two Monday night games, huh Yeah, in
Speaker 2: case you missed the memo, yeah, which I like I
Speaker 2: did apparently. Yeah, there's sounds vaguely familiar.
Speaker 1: There are three instances this year where we will have
Speaker 1: staggered Monday night football games. So not what we've seen
Speaker 1: a couple of times over the past couple of years.
Speaker 2: Right, it started a couple of years, right, it was
Speaker 2: like we always have the opener.
Speaker 1: It was all double headers, doubleheader So it's not a
Speaker 1: true doubleheader. You're getting staggered starts. So it's gonna be
Speaker 1: seven to fifteen Eastern and eight fifteen eastern next Monday
Speaker 1: for these two games. So first one up Saints at Panthers.
Speaker 2: Saints and Panthers thriller, Oh god, Saints did squeak by
Speaker 2: the Titans sixteen to fifteen, and Carolina losing to Atlanta
Speaker 2: where Atlanta basically did nothing. Derek Carr yesterday was twenty
Speaker 2: three of thirty three for three zero five and his
Speaker 2: debut with the Saints one touchdown, one pick. He was
Speaker 2: sacked four times and no lave eight for one twelve
Speaker 2: and then Carolina, Bryce Young and the Panther's not winning
Speaker 2: continues a streak. The number one overall pick has not
Speaker 2: won his first start since two thousand and two, when
Speaker 2: David Carr did it, oh fourteen and one over the
Speaker 2: last twenty years.
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me to actually do that, did you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Op, hey, Kelly open, what do you think the
Speaker 2: who do you think the last uh number one pick
Speaker 2: overall to win one.
Speaker 1: Car but which brother was at David?
Speaker 2: David? You are correct? Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good for you.
Speaker 2: Bryce twenty of thirty eight for one forty six in
Speaker 2: his debut one touchdown, two picks. He was sacked twice,
Speaker 2: three carries for seventeen yards minus three and turnovers again
Speaker 2: for Carolina out gained Atlanta two eighty one to two
Speaker 2: twenty one, but those three turnovers led directly to seventeen
Speaker 2: Falcons points. That's all you need to know. Yep, I
Speaker 2: don't know NFC South rivalry throat. I'll say Saints by
Speaker 2: three on the road.
Speaker 1: It is Saints three, is what we're seeing right now.
Speaker 1: I go to see if there is any other numbers
Speaker 1: out there. Now it's a couple three and a halfs,
Speaker 1: a couple three and a halves out there, but mainly.
Speaker 2: Three's all right? What's the second one in night and
Speaker 2: in that total flying up as we speak for some reason? Wow?
Speaker 2: What's okay?
Speaker 1: Second, it was thirty nine. Now I'm seeing forty and
Speaker 1: a half. Forty one's lighting up forty two green across
Speaker 1: the board. Wow, okay. Eight to fifteen Eastern Browns at Steelers.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good game. Yes, that's a good game.
Speaker 2: Cleveland in victory over the the just absolutely mor An
Speaker 2: Bengals yesterday. Deshaun was sixteen for twenty nine for one
Speaker 2: fifty four. I mean, even that's terrible, right? What I
Speaker 2: got more than one or two texts about DeShawn yesterday?
Speaker 2: Like is he washed one touchdown, one pick? He was
Speaker 2: sacked three times, five carries for forty five yards and
Speaker 2: a touchdown. Nick Chubb eighteen for one oh six two
Speaker 2: hundred and six total rushing yards for the Browns. Talk
Speaker 2: about on brand Brown's out first down the Bengals twenty
Speaker 2: one to six, three fifty to one forty two in
Speaker 2: total yards, utter domination. And that was with the Browns
Speaker 2: being minus two in turnovers. Six straight home win for
Speaker 2: the brown versus the Bengals. Wow, that's amazing actually. Uh?
Speaker 2: And then Pittsburgh in defeat against the Niners. Can he
Speaker 2: pick it thirty one to forty six for two thirty two,
Speaker 2: one touchdown, two picks. He was sacked five times. Drake
Speaker 2: and Jackson had three of them for the Niners. Drake
Speaker 2: Jackson leads the sackboard. They were outgained by the Niners
Speaker 2: three ninety one to two thirty nine. They were out
Speaker 2: time of possession thirty seven twenty three to twenty two
Speaker 2: thirty seven. TJ Watt though two forced fumbles, and a
Speaker 2: fumble recovery. Yeah, he always does his thing, but they
Speaker 2: lose thirty to seven. They get blasted. I am going
Speaker 2: to not go crazy with week number one, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna say Pittsburgh is a split between a pick him
Speaker 2: and the three. I'll say minus one and a half
Speaker 2: on the Steelers. They are favorite Browns one and a half,
Speaker 2: Browns one and a half. I think I like the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Could be great teaserleg two total forty one.
Speaker 2: I like this. Fool me once, fool me again?
Speaker 1: Is that how it goes? So?
Speaker 2: I think in the end, I like just reviewing these
Speaker 2: just based on the initial reaction. Now again, will I
Speaker 2: hold to these? Come contest picks this coming week? Come bets?
Speaker 2: But I think it's the I think I should. I
Speaker 2: think it's the Seahawks, the Chargers. Seahawks who are five
Speaker 2: and a half point dogs to the lines, I think
Speaker 2: that's a little high.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: The Chargers are only three point favorites on the road.
Speaker 1: I think, oh boy, we better hurry up. Okay, we
Speaker 1: got line movement going on. I was gonna say, but
Speaker 1: we have three and a halves. It is mainly three
Speaker 1: and a halves across.
Speaker 2: The board now and that at Tennessee.
Speaker 1: There's a couple out there still.
Speaker 2: And then I think the third one is I kind
Speaker 2: of like Pittsburgh Monday Night, kind of like Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a couple of lines to update Chargers, mainly
Speaker 1: three and a halves.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, I'm going to it behind us three and
Speaker 2: a half.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet I'm gonna bet a three uh right
Speaker 1: as we get off the air, because there are a
Speaker 1: couple still available.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The other significant one here the forty nine ers game.
Speaker 1: That what was that seven when we just did it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Eight eight and a half now? Oh man?
Speaker 2: So why we do this Monday morning? Yep? All right,
Speaker 2: let's just talk the biggest before we get out of here.
Speaker 1: Biggest anything tonight for you? If his number keeps coming down,
Speaker 1: I might end up on the bills, but I have
Speaker 1: a feeling I'm gonna be looking for that in game.
Speaker 2: Biggest Week one overreactions, what do you think people will
Speaker 2: be most prone to. I'll give you a choice. Okay,
Speaker 2: we just talked about one of them. Hill's gonna win
Speaker 2: m VP, right, people canna be oh m v P
Speaker 2: one hundred to one. That doesn't usually happen for non quarterbacks. Yeah. No,
Speaker 2: people are gonna be like, oh, the Browns are gonna
Speaker 2: win the AFC North.
Speaker 1: That defense is incredibly is incredibly good. But I got
Speaker 1: more than I was, but not shocked by that. Shawn
Speaker 1: was not good, he was not great. He wasn't great.
Speaker 2: That the Cowboys are the most complete NFC team, is
Speaker 2: that an overreaction that people will have.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's an overreaction.
Speaker 2: San Francisco is the most complete.
Speaker 1: Come on, Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's over Hey, forty and the
Speaker 2: Eagles are too. The Eagles just might have had a bad.
Speaker 1: Game because I have these Niners slotted three and we'll
Speaker 1: do our power rankings again this week, but I had
Speaker 1: them third in those group of three NFC teams because
Speaker 1: of that, I was most impressed with them yesterday.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying, anybody who thinks, oh my god,
Speaker 2: what I saw last night makes makes the Cowboys better
Speaker 2: than the Eagles of the Niners period, I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: slow down on Yeah, no, no, no, they might be, but
Speaker 2: let's this is relax.
Speaker 1: No, I think I had I had Eagles and Cowboys
Speaker 1: kind of one, A, one B heading into this season,
Speaker 1: no matter whichever order you wanted to put it as
Speaker 1: top of the NFC. Yeah, so you know, forty to nothing,
Speaker 1: I think that just kind of yeah. I don't want
Speaker 1: to say proves anything like that. You're not gonna see
Speaker 1: forty to nothing wins very often, but you know, good
Speaker 1: showing by them. So that's what I'm saying, that forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers being that dominant over the Steelers. Okay, I
Speaker 1: gotta start, I gotta shut up and start showing them
Speaker 1: a little bit more respect.
Speaker 2: Than I was. Some people are gonna think the Lions
Speaker 2: are Super Bowl contenders after that Thursday night game, I would.
Speaker 1: Not, Okay, who's the fourth best team in the NFC?
Speaker 2: After Week one? You'd have to say the Lions. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's like one, two, you're ready to go. Hold on,
Speaker 2: it's one, two, three, I'm holding my hand way up.
Speaker 2: And then it's right, yeah, four, four, right, it's not close.
Speaker 1: Well that is probably four or five.
Speaker 2: And then yes, Lion, Seahawks, Seahawks. And then I mean
Speaker 2: the other one I was gonna say is is you
Speaker 2: know people are gonna be like is Jordan Love? Some
Speaker 2: people are gonna be like well, or think that that's
Speaker 2: an overreaction. But we were saying on this show. I
Speaker 2: was saying here all off season, I think Jordan Love's
Speaker 2: actually gonna be good. So that to me is not
Speaker 2: only not an overreaction, that was a pre reaction to that,
Speaker 2: I think he is gonna be good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a I mean, look, we both have
Speaker 1: division tickets on the Packers. Is that a bit of
Speaker 1: a gamble?
Speaker 2: Is?
Speaker 1: Of course, it's a bit of a game. We have
Speaker 1: no idea really what Jordan Love's gonna look like, but
Speaker 1: we thought, you know, him sitting behind and they still
Speaker 1: have they still have pieces there. I mean, Romeo Dobbs
Speaker 1: looked great yesterday. The running backs, Aaron Jones, we don't
Speaker 1: I guess we don't know what's gonna happen with him
Speaker 1: after he went down yesterday. But Christian Watson didn't even
Speaker 1: play in that game. Like, they do have some weapons there.
Speaker 2: What I mean, if Jones is hurt, they gotta we
Speaker 2: gonna watch that. Hammis Hammies are quirky like that. What's
Speaker 2: the thing you saw week one here? So far? Obviously
Speaker 2: one game left, but you were like I knew it
Speaker 2: and I couldn't understand why everybody else was saying it
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying like, oh look, I have these
Speaker 2: bets and they look good after week one. But there
Speaker 2: was something that I don't even have a bet on
Speaker 2: that I'm like, I didn't I never understood this, and
Speaker 2: I saw nothing in week one to lead me to
Speaker 2: think that these people were right about. For me, it
Speaker 2: was the Bears. Like I didn't understand these people were
Speaker 2: all about the Bears. And the reason that I bet
Speaker 2: Eberflus for first coach fired is because if that goes
Speaker 2: sour quickly, like if they lose this game, if they
Speaker 2: lose this game, who they got again? It's like some
Speaker 2: game they should they have every reason to win.
Speaker 1: I was trying to come with an answer your question.
Speaker 2: Chicago was playing Tampa Bay. If they lose to Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay and they go oh in too Everflus is squarely
Speaker 2: on the hot set.
Speaker 1: I think they will too. I said it last week.
Speaker 1: I think Tampa's live. These are this beginning part of
Speaker 1: the season with some of these pieces you did, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just from I'm gonna go with two winners that
Speaker 1: I didn't see coming, and one of them I had
Speaker 1: a bet on one I didn't. Rams and Stafford were
Speaker 1: incredibly impressive to me. I did not see that coming.
Speaker 1: And not that I was high on the Broncos, nor
Speaker 1: did I have a bet on them. But the Raiders
Speaker 1: going into Denver and picking up a win.
Speaker 2: It's a good win. Yeah, but but I don't think
Speaker 2: they're any good, which leads me to believe, like, imagine
Speaker 2: if that's up, because I'm I'm anti Sean Payton with
Speaker 2: all the things he said about random people, like obviously
Speaker 2: with h with Hackett. Yeah, but then he goes after
Speaker 2: Russell right here, and then he starts with the on
Speaker 2: side kicking, Oh that could be up. We shall see.
Speaker 1: Well, good thing they didn't invest their whole future, that's right,