1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I am all in Again. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: I Am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio Podcast. 3 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in Podcast, one 4 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: of the productions iHeartRadio, iHeart Media, iHeart Podcasts. Episode to 5 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: Luke Steiner, we have the one and only Mary Sue 6 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: Millican and Sue Fenneger. And let me tell you a 7 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: little bit about these two. They are legendary culinary icons. 8 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,199 Speaker 1: Yes they are, and you may know them from two 9 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Hot Tomali's and Top Chef Masters. Welcome ladies, Susan and 10 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: Mary Sue. Great to have you on the show. How 11 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: are you today? 12 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: Hi, thank you, It's great to be here. 13 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: It's good to have you. It really is. My favorite 14 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: people in the world are chefs, I tell you, especially 15 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: the ones that will take an autograph photo of payment. 16 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: And season one episode of twenty ps, I Love You, 17 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: we are presented with Emily Gilmore's idea of a packed 18 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: lunch for Rory at children. It includes a leg of 19 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: lamb sandwich strudle and that is Richard's recommendations and here's 20 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 1: some things to get us off the lunch pad. Packed lunches. 21 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,559 Speaker 1: They play a role in family moments on TV shows 22 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: or in life right, whether it's Rory school Days or 23 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: Suki's gourmet takes on classic What makes a packed lunch 24 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: truly special for you two. 25 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 4: That's such a great question because we once did all 26 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: the food for a film called Tortillas, which was based 27 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: on an Ang Lee film that was based that was 28 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 4: called Eat Drink Man Woman. I think so. Anyway, when 29 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: they in both cases once one was Chinese Family Chinese 30 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 4: America and the other was Mexican American. That's the one 31 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 4: that we did all the food for. And at one 32 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: point there's a lunch going to school with the granddaughter 33 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: and of the chef and he goes through so much painstaking, 34 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: you know, to pack it and layers and different you know, surprises, 35 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: and it's really really sweet. It really it reminds me 36 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: of when my kids were young, and you know, I 37 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 4: cut their sandwiches in the shape of a heart. 38 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Any quick chef approved hacks for keeping those packed lunches 39 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: fresh and exciting without spending hours, don't it. 40 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 5: We don't have kids, so I never had to pack 41 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 5: a lunch for kids, so, you know, very so I 42 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 5: never I don't think I ever packed a lunch unless 43 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 5: you know, I was packing a lunch, for us to 44 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 5: go to the beach or for us to you know, 45 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 5: go do something. 46 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: I think the important thing is you have to wrap 47 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 4: everything kind of carefully. If it's wrapped well, it lasts 48 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: really well. 49 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: Right, this dynamic duo right here, how'd you guys get started? 50 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: How'd you first cross paths? What led you to join 51 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: forces in the colinary world. 52 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 5: Well, we this is way back, this is in the 53 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 5: late seventies. We met because we're both from the Midwest. 54 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: I'm from Ohio, Marys who's from Michigan. We ended up 55 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 5: meeting at a restaurant in Chicago called Lapero Ca and 56 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 5: we were the only two women in the kitchen. 57 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 3: So we bonded in a big way, in a big way. 58 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 5: Especially because it was a very traditional French kitchen. And 59 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 5: you know, we were sort of determined, I know, we 60 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 5: were just we would work, you know. 61 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: Come in early, stay late. 62 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 4: Try to prove ourselves, always try to be as better 63 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: than the guys, which. 64 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 5: We were, but by far, well we worked harder than 65 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 5: all of them for sure. 66 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 67 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 4: And then by the end, when the chef went on vacation, 68 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: he asked the two of us to be in charge 69 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 4: of the kitchen, which was a huge, huge honor, and 70 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 4: I don't know, it didn't take but a couple of years. 71 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 4: After that, we both went to France, to Susan, to 72 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 4: the south of France, meet to Paris to do apprenticeships, 73 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 4: and then you know, soon after that, we just got 74 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 4: the idea that we'd open restaurants together someday somewhere. 75 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 5: That was after two bottles of wine in Paris, well, 76 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 5: when we were definitely had had too much to drink 77 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 5: and it was raining, and then there was a rainbow, 78 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,679 Speaker 5: and we decided we should open up a restaurant sometime. 79 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 5: And we couldn't figure out what city, what city it 80 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 5: should be, but. 81 00:04:58,760 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 3: We both ended up. 82 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 5: I came back to La because I had been in 83 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 5: La before working at Mammay Zone under Wolfgang Puck, and 84 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 5: Mary Sue went back to Chicago. But but we eventually, 85 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 5: within like maybe six eight months, we came back and 86 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 5: had City Cafe, which was our first little restaurant together. 87 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 5: It was talk about working long hours. We were opened 88 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: like seven am to midnight, seven days a week. 89 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 6: Wow. 90 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: And that was forty four years. 91 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 6: Ago, right right? What a business? 92 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: And where was City Cafe? 93 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 4: Where was it on Melrose in La and the you 94 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 4: know punk rock era of Melrose Avenue. 95 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 5: Right next to Lai Works, there was the soap plant 96 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 5: was across the street. Our address was seventy four oh 97 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 5: seven and a half because the space was like nine 98 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 5: hundred square feet in total. 99 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 4: Gosh, it was great. 100 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: It was great. 101 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: What a hustle that must have been. Man, you guys 102 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: just working your tails off. 103 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, well just imagine imagine this we were. We had 104 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 3: both come back. 105 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 5: Mary Sue was working in a restaurant in Paris. I 106 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 5: was working in a restaurant in the south of France, 107 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 5: both of them very high end. We come back. We 108 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 5: opened this little city cafe with a full menu, no 109 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:27,679 Speaker 5: stove in the kitchen, no automatic dishwasher, just the three 110 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 5: pots sink and it was Mary Sue and I and 111 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 5: the dishwasher. And we had two hot plates like two 112 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 5: saute pans and two habachi's on the ground and the 113 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 5: parking lot where all the customers park after we'd come 114 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 5: from these three star restaurants. 115 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: But you made it work. 116 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: We did. We got our first gourmet ride up there. 117 00:06:49,920 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: Fantastic. Well, you helped redefine the La food scene, right, 118 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty much what you guys did. So 119 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: what was the turning point when you realized you were 120 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: creating something game changing in La in the food scene. 121 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 3: I don't think we have yet. 122 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: You ever realized it because you're so busy. Russian, Russian, Russian, right. 123 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 6: Well. 124 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 4: I do remember Julia child coming in. She was super 125 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: tall and a dear friend. But the first time we 126 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 4: met her, she was eating in the front and we 127 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 4: were so excited, and we look out the little square 128 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 4: window in the kitchen door and peak, peek and see 129 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 4: what she was doing, and tell the bus ploy, you know, 130 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 4: give her a lot of water. So she has to 131 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 4: go to the bathroom because the bathroom was in the kitchen. 132 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 4: Sure enough, Julia comes walking into the kitchen. Oh my gosh, Hello, 133 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 4: that was such a delicious meal. And you know, she's 134 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 4: so tall, and our kitchen was so tiny. We had 135 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 4: stuff hanging from the ceiling. We had no room really. 136 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 5: And we had one double door because then we finally 137 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 5: had put a stove in. We put one six burner 138 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 5: stove in, and we had one double door refrigerator where 139 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 5: we put everything, and that was right in front of 140 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 5: the bathroom door. 141 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: So I was on the floor. 142 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 5: Organizing the little you know, double door reaching and Mary 143 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 5: Sue was getting you know, getting something out of the oven, 144 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 5: and we both hear this voice and we were sort 145 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 5: of blowing. Obviously we knew it was her, and so 146 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 5: it was embarrassing. All the food was on the floor. 147 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 3: It was just like, oh my god, what a mess. 148 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 5: But she became such an amazing supporter for us and 149 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 5: really great friend, and we did many things with her 150 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 5: after that, and just she was, you know, a role model. 151 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 5: She was humble and fun and she didn't take herself 152 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,479 Speaker 5: too seriously. 153 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 3: She was great. 154 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: Man. That's like Babe Ruth walking in mentoring you guys. 155 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's amazing. 156 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 4: That's like if you're a baseball player. 157 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: Right, if you're a baseball player, or you know, I 158 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: mean ate a lot too, like you appreciated a good meal. Man. 159 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: That's uh, that's quite a feather in your caps there, 160 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: Julia Child, throw that name down. 161 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 5: I'll tell you, okay, if we're name dropping, yes, please 162 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,839 Speaker 5: do another. Amazing I think when there's two more, I 163 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 5: think things that happened that I can remember that are 164 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: like the most incredible things. 165 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: One thing was we got we had a show on 166 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: casey r W. 167 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 5: We had pitched it to Ruth Seymour that we wanted 168 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 5: to do like a five minute political food show, and 169 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 5: she was like, no, that's the stupidest idea I've ever heard, 170 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 5: But you can do a food show, and so we did. 171 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 4: We'll call it Good Food and yeah, because I wanted 172 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 4: to talk about like the horrible pest de sides on 173 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 4: apples for school children. You know, Meryl Street had come 174 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: out and against it. And I had a baby that 175 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 4: was just like just being born, and I was so outrageous, said, 176 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 4: that is the so unappetizing and such a bad idea. 177 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 4: You just come on and doing food, a food show 178 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 4: called a good food show, and then you can weave 179 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 4: your little messages in here and there. And it was 180 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 4: actually really amazing because a week later we were on 181 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,559 Speaker 4: the radio doing we had no idea how to host 182 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 4: a radio show what we did for seven years. 183 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I mean I had no idea 184 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: how to host a podcast, but I've been doing it 185 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: for four Yeah. 186 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 5: But the amazing thing is, at some point in this 187 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 5: Saturday Night Live did a spoof on our show, really 188 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 5: and they came in and then came in and did 189 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 5: an ass tire. 190 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: They did you know those the two of them where 191 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 4: they say, you know and tune in next week, we'll 192 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 4: have a whole hour show about salt. 193 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: And we felt like we had a ride. 194 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,319 Speaker 1: I remember that was based on you guys. 195 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, we felt like we had ye But she said yeah, she. 196 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 4: Said she'd been driving around town and listening to our show, 197 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: and we were like, are we that boring? Yeah? 198 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: But so you're also in the food truck business, right, 199 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: How did that? How'd that get off the ground? How 200 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: did you start that? Yeah? 201 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: That was we love that. I mean that that's been like, 202 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 3: I know, sixteen twenty years. 203 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, Roy CHOI started it really to 204 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 4: be fair. He and I love Roy. He's got the 205 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: Kogi truck. But when he kind of went viral with 206 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 4: you know, the very beginning of social media and like 207 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 4: where you could find his truck that we loved the 208 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 4: idea right away. We went out and bought a truck. 209 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 4: And we're amazed at how it's how great it is 210 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 4: to be able to bring your kitchen to somewhere where 211 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 4: you can serve people nice, hot, delicious food immediately. 212 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 5: And and I think it was you could do it 213 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 5: in a way, in a way where it was affordable, 214 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 5: so that someone could come if they couldn't afford to 215 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 5: eat at your restaurant, but they could come to the truck. 216 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 5: And I you know, it's what I love about food trucks, 217 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 5: the same as street food all over the world, is 218 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: that it's an equalizer. It doesn't matter if you have 219 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 5: a lot of money or you have very little money. 220 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 5: It's sort of people love if it's a great food 221 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 5: truck or a great street stand, people love it, and 222 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 5: it doesn't matter. And so it's really an equalizer. And 223 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 5: so we were able to do that. We love the 224 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 5: idea of what that did because it made you way 225 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: more visible out there in the city. 226 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: So you too would be in the truck often prepping 227 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: the meals. Would you drive the truck to the locations too, No, 228 00:12:56,280 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: you had a driver, Yeah, you had a driver. And 229 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: how many staff were in the kitchen with you? Just 230 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 1: the two of you or was there some extra. 231 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: Help in the beginning? 232 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 6: Yeah? 233 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: I think just the two of you. 234 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, But then you know, we would have you know, 235 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: we got to the point where we could have you know, 236 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 4: up to three people. It would fit in the kitchen. 237 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: I mean it's not that big, it's a small shruck. 238 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 4: So what the driver usually also is a cook and 239 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 4: or the order taker, and so you know you can 240 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: it comes in so handy. During the fires, we brought 241 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: our truck to many different locations and fed thousands of people, 242 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: fifteen hundred people in like a two hour time span. 243 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 4: It was it's amazing. 244 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, how do you feed fifteen hundred people 245 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: in two hours? 246 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 4: Well we have a ye're like, you're standing right next 247 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 4: to each other in a NonStop. 248 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: So what do you make and what are you serving? 249 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: What are you preparing? 250 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 4: Well, the one I'm thinking of we had mac and 251 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 4: cheese for the kids, these were people whose homes had 252 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 4: burned down. We had tarioki steak for and then we 253 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: had a fish, a beautiful fish salad that one of 254 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 4: our colleagues here in town made because we got a 255 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 4: bunch of fish donated and we didn't have the manpower 256 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 4: to do it. So one of our chef friends, Nikki Nakayama, 257 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 4: made a fish salad, and so we had these choices. 258 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 4: You could have mac and cheese, fish salad or steak 259 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 4: tariaki or we also had a tofu tariaki, so you know, 260 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 4: and we were just putting them out as fast as 261 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 4: we could and people coming up and grabbing whichever one 262 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: they wanted. 263 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 5: Nice, and we did I think one foot one of 264 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 5: the days I worked in Alta Dina, we did a 265 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 5: vegetarian curry, so people who were vegetarian, we did a 266 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 5: braised brisket and then we always served like some. 267 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: Fresh veg vegetable. 268 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 5: We did broccoli I think with a sesame sauce on it, 269 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 5: and it's just nonstuff. I mean, even at that event, 270 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 5: we ran out of the vegetable, so we had gotten 271 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 5: there was the food bank was there. We got a 272 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 5: case of apples and I started making apple salad to 273 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 5: go with the brisket, and with that just chopping up 274 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: like for one hour straight as fast as I could, 275 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 5: chopping up apples, mixing it with salt, pepper, olive oil 276 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 5: and taheen. So you know, but you're just, I mean, 277 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 5: at that point, you're just you know, you're trying to 278 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 5: put out as much food that's fresh and delicious to 279 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 5: give someone a warm meal and they could take one, 280 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 5: or they could take ten or however many dings. 281 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's great, that's great. 282 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: They're known for Mexican food. But so when the National 283 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 4: Guard came to Santa Monica to help early on, we 284 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: would do a lot, like five hundred burritos every morning 285 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 4: to take them over to the Santa Monica Police Department 286 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 4: in Indy. 287 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: Look at you, Yeah, wow, that's true. You know, I learned. 288 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: I love to cook. I'm not a professional chef by 289 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: any stretch, but it's how I cooked. My wife was 290 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: with my salmon, the way I prepared my salmon at 291 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: the time. And I don't even remember how I used 292 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: to do it because now it's just like I put 293 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: some sauce on it, put. 294 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 6: It in the oven, and there you go. 295 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: But I learned something every time I do one of these. 296 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: I learned about how to use the pasta water in 297 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: the sauce to make it bind to the pasta right, 298 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: so there's no more water stuff. So that's a little trick. 299 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: So what are the what are the most underrated ingredients 300 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: you think people should be using more in their kitchens? 301 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: And maybe it can help me with my anchovies. 302 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 4: I think anchovies are incredible. People think they don't like them. 303 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: They don't even know, you know, they don't even know 304 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 4: When I put anchovies in they say, oh my god, 305 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 4: this is so delicious. But if you said, would you 306 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: like to have something with a little anchovy season it's 307 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: like a seasoning. 308 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: It's like salt, your right. 309 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 4: I just think it makes everything tastes better. 310 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 5: I mean I think, you know, people get in habits 311 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 5: of what they if they're cooking, what they use at home. 312 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 5: I mean there's so many there's like, for example, o 313 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 5: hasanta is an amazing orb. 314 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 3: Most people don't even know what it is or use it, 315 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: but I think it's like one of them. 316 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 5: I mean, where people love basil, o hasanta is as interesting, 317 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 5: if not more, but it's not used. And so people, 318 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 5: you know, tend to sort of stick with what they know, 319 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 5: or like Cole Robbie or you know, cell reroot. You 320 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 5: know they're I mean up, were at our restaurant in 321 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 5: Palm Springs, Alice b. We do this salad that goes 322 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 5: with the bronzino that's prize and cell reroot, and people 323 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 5: are always asking, like, what was that salad on the 324 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 5: side of that dish? I mean, celery root you can 325 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 5: see in every grocery store. But it's interesting. 326 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 3: I mean that people. I think since COVID, I think people. 327 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 5: Are using more ingredients now than they were, because people 328 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 5: are cooking at home more now than we do. 329 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, if. 330 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: You could cook for any TV character, Okay, all right, 331 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: because this is a podcast based on TV show, who 332 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: would that character be, not the actor or the actress, 333 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: but the character, right, Who would that character be? And 334 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: what would you make them? Mary suit go first. 335 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 4: Well, the first person who who popped into my head 336 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 4: was I dream of Genie. 337 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: I could cook for her, okay, because. 338 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 4: She just did so many nice things for people, you know, right, 339 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 4: I mean that's why I love to cook. I like 340 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 4: to cook to give back. I love to people get 341 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 4: him excited. 342 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: What would you cook for her? 343 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 4: I would make her well, first, I'd have to ask 344 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 4: her twenty questions about what she like, and but I 345 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 4: would imagine she I would make her birthday dinner. I 346 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 4: would make a birthday cake for her with really delicious 347 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 4: butter cream. And I'd probably make her a really nice, 348 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 4: you know, not too fattening meal because she's always you know, 349 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 4: looking after her. 350 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: Weight, right right, right? TV character meal? 351 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah? 352 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 5: Probably, I think it'd be very fun to cook for 353 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 5: Tony Soprano and uh and what was his wife's name? 354 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 3: I'm blanking on her name? 355 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 5: Missus missus soprano. Them is a couple I would love. 356 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 5: I think they would have been very fun to hang 357 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 5: out with. 358 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: What would you what would you cook them? 359 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 3: Definitely not Italian? 360 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 6: Not Italian? 361 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, huh. 362 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Maybe you know, maybe I do 363 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 3: like a. 364 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 5: Like a ribbi stuffed with roasted garlic, and you know, 365 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 5: maybe a Jimmy Turia and crispy fingerling potatoes or something. 366 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: Oh man, man, I'm hungry. You guys are making me hungry. 367 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,840 Speaker 1: Is your food truck going out every day? Are just 368 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 1: special special bookings and special parties in that kind of thing? 369 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 370 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 5: I mean right now, we're still collaborating with World Central 371 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 5: Kitchen to feed that. 372 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: Some of the vacuies like three days a. 373 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 5: Week with the True but otherwise it's private parties or 374 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 5: if there's big like like let's say, for example, like Coachella, 375 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 5: not Coachella, but sometimes but big events where there's maybe thousands. 376 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: People, but it's usually caterings or private parties by miss Wedding. 377 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: Well, you too must be expensive. 378 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 4: Very We always wanted a restaurant that our friends could 379 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: afford to eat in, because we've worked in restaurants that 380 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 4: you know, the parking lots were filled with rolls, Royces 381 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 4: and Mercedes, and we didn't really ever want that kind 382 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 4: of restaurant. So we've always really been focused on accessibility. 383 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 4: But I have to tell you about a dinner party 384 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 4: I had about ten years ago. A friend of mine 385 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 4: is a good friend of Peter Krause, and he brought 386 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 4: his then girlfriend Lauren Graham over. I think she might 387 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 4: have been instrumental in the program that year. This podcast 388 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 4: is about she. 389 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: Might have been. There's a rumor going around that she 390 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: was may or may have been in some episodes. 391 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 4: I had never actually seen the show because I think 392 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 4: during the time when Gilmore Girls really exploded, I was 393 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 4: like Susan and I were in the kitchen like twenty 394 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: four hours a day or eighteen at least, and then 395 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 4: sleeping for six So when she walked in, I of 396 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 4: course didn't know who she was. They came over to 397 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,479 Speaker 4: my house, and when my sister found out later that 398 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 4: I'd cooked for Lauren Graham, she just. 399 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 3: Was crazy excited. 400 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 4: She and her two daughters were huge Gilmore Girls watchers. 401 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Right. Well, so let's say, and you're a little more 402 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: familiar with the show now, right, Yeah, a little bit, 403 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: A little bit. I'm not saying you're experts, but so, 404 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: so you know I played a character named Luke and 405 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: I had a diner. Right. 406 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 4: Oh cool? Yeah yeah yeah yeah. 407 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: So you haven't really seen the show all right. 408 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: So. 409 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 5: I think I did way bad. 410 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: I did. 411 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: You haven't seen the show at all. 412 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 4: I didn't know it was you? Who was Luke? 413 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: I did my. 414 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: Reason, I don't look the same, I didn't. 415 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 3: I knew that's who you was younger than we all were. 416 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: I had a little more hair. Yeah, I didn't need glasses. 417 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 4: So you had a diner? Was it fun? 418 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Luke Steiner? Sure? Yeah. So here's the question you 419 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: come into Luke Steiner, right, what would you order? And 420 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: if you haven't seen the show, I can't ask you 421 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: where you'd sit because you don't know the layout. 422 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: Right, well, I'd want to sit at the counter. 423 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: There you go that, there you go there it is 424 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: that I had a out, obviously, what would you. 425 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 3: I'd want to be? I love diners. 426 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 5: They are my favorite place to eat, so do I 427 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 5: so do I They're like and old and old, you know, 428 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 5: go to Snug Harbor all the time, you know. 429 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 3: I love old diners, though. 430 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: Diners are coming back. You know, it's like, oh yeah, 431 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: it's really something we used. 432 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 5: To go for business lunches or breakfast, I mean all 433 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 5: the time, and I would get the exact same thing, 434 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 5: and I still do it for all these years. 435 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: I'll get cottage. 436 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 5: Cheese, side of avocado, side of bacon, rye toast, extra 437 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 5: virgin olive oil and hot sauce. 438 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 6: There you go. 439 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: Can't beat it with a stick. Can't beat it with 440 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: a stick. 441 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 4: I like a tune them melt myself? 442 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: Did you say? 443 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: Luke's absolutely? You know, you know what do you want 444 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: right now? Caesar? 445 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 5: Tune them out? 446 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: Excellent? But you haven't seen the show, so yeah, anyway, ladies, 447 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: it has been an extreme pleasure. Please he's come back, okay. 448 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean I have a list of questions that I mean, 449 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: I barely you know, we barely crack the surface of 450 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: this thing. So come back sometime, okay, and we'll be 451 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: in touch. 452 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 4: I have time now, so I'll watch a bunch of 453 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 4: old Gilmore girls and then when I come back, I 454 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: will have a much better Don't believe her. 455 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: Don't believe her, Mary Sue Millican, Susan Feniger, A pleasure, 456 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: Keep on truck and thank you for all you do 457 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: for the LA community. Quite admirable of you and all 458 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: the best too. 459 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 3: Thanks for coming so much, all right, thank you, all right, bye. 460 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: Bye, and that's going to wrap it up here everybody. 461 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for downloading. 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