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Speaker 1: episode of the Gangster Chronicles podcast. Nombout my parties, Jack,
Speaker 1: Jill and you know America for the long the longest
Speaker 1: time has been in factuated with gangsterism, whether from crips
Speaker 1: blood to the Italian mafia, and today we have one.
Speaker 1: You can almost say the face of the mafia, right
Speaker 1: he say the bull. That's the pleasure, is all Lars.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off the top and just get it
Speaker 1: out the way. We want to say the epitome of gangster. Yeah, definitely, League,
Speaker 1: and I have you and James in the same room,
Speaker 1: as you know, I think you guys that I don't
Speaker 1: listen comparison. No, Kobe and Jordan here, don't compare us that. No,
Speaker 1: listen what I'm saying, bro, Your first melodies are a
Speaker 1: lot of like you know from you know me looking
Speaker 1: at him, you know some of the way you were
Speaker 1: raised and came up, some of the principles you had.
Speaker 1: You gotta see a lot of the same ideology. So
Speaker 1: we had a little better looking than him. But you know,
Speaker 1: I want to get this question off the way because
Speaker 1: I filter your pain when you heard the taps from Giancatti.
Speaker 1: What was going through your mind when you heard him
Speaker 1: on the wire taps? Well, first of all, anybody could
Speaker 1: get caught on the white attack, so it didn't bother
Speaker 1: me too much. It was stupid. He talked about things
Speaker 1: we did years ago. When you get away with the crime.
Speaker 1: You don't go bulliting about years later. And but he
Speaker 1: did and he got caught. That didn't bother me too much.
Speaker 1: There was a lot of lines on those tapes, and
Speaker 1: that bothered me a little bit. I didn't understand why
Speaker 1: there was a lot of complaining about me. But towards
Speaker 1: the end, what he did is he met with the lawyers.
Speaker 1: The tapes were so bad. All the lawyers, the biggest
Speaker 1: lawyers in New York said, you can't beat this case.
Speaker 1: The tapes of plan his day. You're dead. Look to
Speaker 1: take a play, look to do something. So he devised
Speaker 1: an idea of what to do, is that he was
Speaker 1: going to use the tapes control the lawyers to tell
Speaker 1: the jury is you could hear the tapes. John got
Speaker 1: his complaining against about this animal. It's him killing everybody
Speaker 1: taking over doing this. John is complaining about him, hoping
Speaker 1: that the jury would convict me and set him free.
Speaker 1: So when this idea came up being him that I
Speaker 1: was in prison whatever already eleven months waiting for trial,
Speaker 1: I said, John, is that what you really want to do.
Speaker 1: The cops, the ages, they're our enemy, but they're doing
Speaker 1: their job. They gotta put the bad guys away were
Speaker 1: the bad guys. That's their job. Me and you were
Speaker 1: tight with their brothers, were friends. You're backing them up
Speaker 1: to me. That's a rap move. So I told him,
Speaker 1: you really want to do that? And he told me,
Speaker 1: saying me, you gotta take the weight. It falls like that.
Speaker 1: It looks like that. I'm the boss, and the boss
Speaker 1: is gotta be free. You're sure you wanted others? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I got in touch with the government. I flipped
Speaker 1: that flip side and went my own way. Basically, that's
Speaker 1: what happened. I've been arrested all my life, murders, double murders,
Speaker 1: somebody committed, somebody didn't commit, never flipped, and they always
Speaker 1: asked me that I hated that, but that I was
Speaker 1: so close. It was like my brother, my closest person
Speaker 1: to me, just threw me to the dogs. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: let it happen. So when when he tried to pretty
Speaker 1: much force you to get you to take the whole
Speaker 1: rap and he get away with it, so that made
Speaker 1: you feel like I'm nothing but a pond. Now you're
Speaker 1: using me. So that makes you feel like, Okay, what
Speaker 1: if I flipped the strip and say, funk that I
Speaker 1: ain't taking a rap for that, great great point, great point,
Speaker 1: because I'm not on the tapes talking. He's on the
Speaker 1: taps talking. So if you want me to flip the script,
Speaker 1: I would say that easily. Brother, you're on the fucking tape,
Speaker 1: your care talking. You want me to take the fucking weight.
Speaker 1: You should be telling me, Sammy, you're not even on
Speaker 1: these tapes. You could beat this fucking case. Bill gets
Speaker 1: a separation, separate trials. If you can beat the case,
Speaker 1: it ain't on them fucking taps talking about it. I am,
Speaker 1: so you should take the way. If it was me,
Speaker 1: I would take the weight. I'm on the tape, I'm
Speaker 1: doing the talking. I'm the one that created this indictment.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut you loose. You loose if you can.
Speaker 1: It's like they're the enemy, not us. Whoever wins wins
Speaker 1: amongst us. We gotta fight for each other. But I
Speaker 1: can cut you loose. After the case, I cut you loose,
Speaker 1: not that I'm gonna may help. The government can pick
Speaker 1: you so I could get out. I think that self
Speaker 1: explains everything. And then some people say it's full of ship.
Speaker 1: But there's so many documents, so many people who flipped
Speaker 1: after this and it's it's documented. It's history now, it's
Speaker 1: documented history. So you know that's the thing where John Gotti.
Speaker 1: Now do I hate him? People saying there's that new thing?
Speaker 1: If he was out and now everybody to kill I
Speaker 1: should have made the fucking app But I don't hate him.
Speaker 1: We will attach that the hip. I feel sorry how
Speaker 1: he died like a door him prisoner. We played chess.
Speaker 1: He was playing checkers and I played chess. I checked
Speaker 1: me in. He made the wrong fucking moves. I was
Speaker 1: never pieced all my life. My raptur is as long
Speaker 1: as anybody's. And they always asked me, Sammy, will you
Speaker 1: get no time? And even he was in, I cooperated.
Speaker 1: I been for the last year's ten different cases. I've
Speaker 1: been a witness for the defense against the government to
Speaker 1: get people out. What guy cooperates him does that too.
Speaker 1: They got to hate me for that. So when I
Speaker 1: got in trouble in Arizona with an ecstacy case taking
Speaker 1: over Arizona Ecstasy, they smash me. I lent them money
Speaker 1: to buy exstacy and I got the twenty fucking years.
Speaker 1: It was payback for the government. We got him and
Speaker 1: I got slammed. Even in that case, they asked me
Speaker 1: to text like it's her. The paper said absolutely not.
Speaker 1: I don't want to use the language I didn't use.
Speaker 1: But I had said, no, Gus, the chronicles use it,
Speaker 1: you can use it. That's what the people love, right.
Speaker 1: So that's the way it is. That's what happened with
Speaker 1: John Gotti. Stuff like that. So we aren't supposed to
Speaker 1: have no heavy ship. But no, go ahead, bro, but
Speaker 1: I know normally gonna ask me no bad questions because
Speaker 1: he goes I got a gun on little thing. He
Speaker 1: already told me, told them when they pulled it. I
Speaker 1: pulled in the parking lot, I said, now let's send
Speaker 1: me run. Before I started my daughter, he was this
Speaker 1: big guy. And then when I sit him talking to you,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not gonna meet my gun. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know the thing is with saying me like he
Speaker 1: was just saying that, Um, you guys are so much
Speaker 1: identical from the up bringing standpoint, and you know, something's
Speaker 1: real interest. And I was having this thought the other night.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, a few twists in your youth,
Speaker 1: you may have turned off to be one of the
Speaker 1: biggest Fortune five hundred leaders in this country. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, who would say that she wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been the next you know Bill Gates or you know,
Speaker 1: big captain of industry or whatever. And you grew up
Speaker 1: in Vincent Hurst, Brooklyn, right bank. How was your youth
Speaker 1: coming up? Well, what really started to be off that
Speaker 1: wrong path is I'm just section So I have a
Speaker 1: back then when I was a kid, and to a
Speaker 1: lot of years ago, they didn't even know what that was.
Speaker 1: They just showed you a fucking stupid that's it. And
Speaker 1: then who wished any timeline? So I'm growing up. The
Speaker 1: most I got was an eighth grade education and I
Speaker 1: was not quit school. They threw me up. They made
Speaker 1: my parents come in. If you don't sign him out,
Speaker 1: he's gonna you know, it's bullshit jail for youth. So
Speaker 1: that started me off. I was in a gang and
Speaker 1: the a's in the ice Brooklyn. It was swamped with
Speaker 1: mafia dudes and they were my idol looking up at them.
Speaker 1: They were the man um and I grew that way.
Speaker 1: When I was nineteen, I got drafted into the military
Speaker 1: during the Vietnam War. I was trained to kill. I
Speaker 1: never went to Vietnam. Um, you needed a certain amount
Speaker 1: of time. When my name came up, only had eight
Speaker 1: months left. They said no, you have to have a year,
Speaker 1: and I never went. I came out. I hooked up
Speaker 1: with a gang right away. I was on the ramps.
Speaker 1: Life life, gangy life was a bunch of stupid kids. Stealing,
Speaker 1: caused stilling. There's still in that fights all kinds of ship.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that vicious of a game. We four it
Speaker 1: would kick ass. We didn't kill nobody, but we didn't
Speaker 1: shoot people. But it was as tough as it could be.
Speaker 1: So I got out of the on me at twenty
Speaker 1: one years old, and I was back in the game
Speaker 1: at twenty three years old. You couldn't do nothing in
Speaker 1: my neighborhood if you weren't connected, Three or four or
Speaker 1: five guys would come to your row. You opening that
Speaker 1: club fucking like at the piece, so you couldn't below.
Speaker 1: So at twenty three years old, I hooked up with
Speaker 1: the Combo family as an associate. I liked the guy
Speaker 1: showed his spireau tough guy X fighter, and I liked
Speaker 1: what he said. I'm never gonna write to you. I've
Speaker 1: never been a backstad. Whatever I answer you to do,
Speaker 1: I've already done, and I'll do it with you. So
Speaker 1: it wasn't somebody given owners. It was music for my
Speaker 1: fucking ears. Even to belong to a family. Music to
Speaker 1: my ears. I had a good mother, father, legitimate people.
Speaker 1: I'm far from stupid. When I was in the in
Speaker 1: the mafia, it's common knowledge. I owned six construction companies.
Speaker 1: I mean I had the power of the mafia. I
Speaker 1: used the unions. I did all kinds of things black.
Speaker 1: I just asked me about our relationship with black people.
Speaker 1: In the movies, they portray it one way. The reality
Speaker 1: is me and the people around me, and the people
Speaker 1: I knew were like this. They dealt numbers on a
Speaker 1: small land. We doubt numbers and the bigger and we
Speaker 1: were the bank. So when they went to you know,
Speaker 1: get rid of the too much work on too much
Speaker 1: money on the number, they would give it to Ower Banking.
Speaker 1: There was dropping beld with blacks. We did everything with
Speaker 1: that not a fact. I'm gonna give you a quick
Speaker 1: story title my captain and I wasn't made yet. I'm
Speaker 1: still just a tough kid. With the game being no family,
Speaker 1: I would switched from the Columbus to the game. You know,
Speaker 1: he said, there's a smooth little church on the block
Speaker 1: where the black people go. Yeah. Yeah, the kids are
Speaker 1: breaking balls over that. Go over to read these kids
Speaker 1: the riot act them all. They're good people. And I
Speaker 1: went down. I told to the kids. The reverend or
Speaker 1: a priest whatever he was, gets in touch with me, Sammy, thanks,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I heard what you're dad, this
Speaker 1: and that the other thing. And he invited me to
Speaker 1: go to church. I never waited to about charge, but
Speaker 1: he was a nice guy. I said, let me go.
Speaker 1: I willed. I went there that day. They had, you know,
Speaker 1: a mask's like everybody else. And it was cool. And
Speaker 1: I left and I was shaking his hand goodbye, and
Speaker 1: he says, if you like to make a donation, we
Speaker 1: got a football team. They're all black. Back then it
Speaker 1: was separated. If you like to make a donation. I
Speaker 1: had just previously made a score. I had a park
Speaker 1: for momy. I said, yea, I'll make a donation. I said,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna buy with it? He says, football. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't have outfits. They don't have this, they don't
Speaker 1: have that. How much does it cost for the whole
Speaker 1: thing to buy all of them uniforms? And stuff agetting
Speaker 1: the number. It wasn't la much. It was a number,
Speaker 1: but dock then it wasn't a big number. What it
Speaker 1: would mean now? I gave it to and uh. Title
Speaker 1: taught me the difference in caring about people and what
Speaker 1: they're like and what they do. It must have been
Speaker 1: a week after that. I'm on the corner with my friends.
Speaker 1: A car pulls up. Four or five six big black
Speaker 1: guys got out. Hey, Samy, we got let it. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the funk that was. It came over
Speaker 1: and this guy says, you took care of our uniforms.
Speaker 1: Chopolin told me, I mean, don't you didn't make a
Speaker 1: donation you we could. We all got new uniforms and
Speaker 1: we could play anybody ever Fox which you need somebody
Speaker 1: give me a call, okay. I shook his head, went away.
Speaker 1: But that's what growing up to us. It wasn't like
Speaker 1: the movie. They were part of us in a neighborhood. Now,
Speaker 1: of course, there was some racism hearing it, and people
Speaker 1: thought a certain way, but that's everything. When Italians came in,
Speaker 1: they didn't like Italians. Some people don't like Italians. Some
Speaker 1: people don't like black some people don't like Jews. Some
Speaker 1: people don't like something that exists. But the biggest racism
Speaker 1: I ever saw in my life is when I went
Speaker 1: into the military. I knew about it in New York,
Speaker 1: you know, there's mad all that blue ship. But when
Speaker 1: I went in and in the first place, I went
Speaker 1: with the four Tacks in South Carolina, in the Sifour,
Speaker 1: I've seen racism like I never seen in my life.
Speaker 1: And uh I even told story. I did a video
Speaker 1: about it. There was a guy from the Bronx. He
Speaker 1: was a black guy, and we had KP dooty, so
Speaker 1: went online and went serving there's big long spoons. Fucking
Speaker 1: hillbillies came. Why. I hear him telling him the black guy,
Speaker 1: hey boy, do this, Hey boy. I knew that would
Speaker 1: bought him, so look didn't seem to bought him at all.
Speaker 1: They came to me and guy put out a track
Speaker 1: and I would say, serving beans or something, and I'm
Speaker 1: putting it in his thing. That's tripping over and I stopped.
Speaker 1: Hey boy, when I'll tell you to stop, that's when
Speaker 1: you stopped. It's calling me boy now and he throws
Speaker 1: all the fucking food on the count and I whappered
Speaker 1: right in the fucking head, the double kid. The guy
Speaker 1: behind him is his frindal. He hits me. They had
Speaker 1: metal tracks almost not me over black eye dropped right
Speaker 1: the funk over side phone blows. I get my senses.
Speaker 1: I jumped over me and him a fucking fright and
Speaker 1: have to join. We're on the MP's call, sitting on
Speaker 1: the floor and uh, big guy comes in, big black guy,
Speaker 1: big heavy set black guy. You like helping black people. Boy, Now,
Speaker 1: I wasn't stupid. He thought I was helping the black guy,
Speaker 1: who wasn't that way at all. The black guy was
Speaker 1: helping being so I took advantage of that. So I
Speaker 1: said that when we from New York and we think
Speaker 1: a little different, and he went, that means So I
Speaker 1: got away. The black guy said and said, you used
Speaker 1: that situ. So I mean, I don't know. You know,
Speaker 1: you see these mafia movement and stuff, and uh, it's
Speaker 1: really not that way, not in my neighborhood, not in
Speaker 1: my lifetime. We had good relationships with them. I did
Speaker 1: time with flat hat Nickels. I talked to a bout
Speaker 1: him in the video. A sweetheart of a guy that's
Speaker 1: a big time games, a big time. My My question
Speaker 1: is um, what what was the transition that you went
Speaker 1: like you said he was part of the Colombo family,
Speaker 1: being went to the game, being on family. Why was
Speaker 1: the transition the transitions they was, they started using me
Speaker 1: more and more. The boss of this through a captain
Speaker 1: comment in Persico, send him for me all the time.
Speaker 1: Shorty's brother Ralph had a son, and he gets into
Speaker 1: an argument when his brother, Shorty, why the fund you
Speaker 1: keep taking Sam of there? I want my son to
Speaker 1: go there. So they opened the books and he gets
Speaker 1: made I want my son, not him, and surely said, listen,
Speaker 1: I ain't brand him there. He's asking family and he's
Speaker 1: doing whatever the funk he's told. So how to shut
Speaker 1: me down? How to stop this rising starts? He makes
Speaker 1: up this fucking Bulson story about a guy who was
Speaker 1: with us who got killed, bumped into his wife in
Speaker 1: a place where I was with seven eight guys a
Speaker 1: week or two after he was killed in a in
Speaker 1: a in a bank price and I saw that when
Speaker 1: I got it, and it's annoyed to share. The abused
Speaker 1: a little bit, and uh he brought it back that
Speaker 1: I abused huh and hit huh because I wanted to
Speaker 1: have sex when I was human though he twisting the story.
Speaker 1: But he didn't realize when he twisted the story that
Speaker 1: there was five, six seven guys there in the vote
Speaker 1: with me when it happened. So when I went home,
Speaker 1: I was married a ready. They he called out my
Speaker 1: wife and his head. You know her husband is dead.
Speaker 1: He tried to bang Ralph free wrong his wife. So
Speaker 1: when I got home, I said, this safe is very technical.
Speaker 1: Tell me exactly. He said, that's exactly what he said.
Speaker 1: I got a gun and I went to this house.
Speaker 1: I was gonna killing run at the blow away, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't home. And when I turned around to go
Speaker 1: back to my car had to come behind me by
Speaker 1: my ass. She saw it and she told him. So
Speaker 1: they knew where I went there to kill him. When
Speaker 1: I was called in, they talked to me that the
Speaker 1: same we're gonna do. I told him the story the
Speaker 1: best I could, and I said I was gonna kill him.
Speaker 1: Told what he did. They gave me right, Actually, bosses
Speaker 1: gave me right. I said, what he did, you did
Speaker 1: the right fucking thing, but not in his house in
Speaker 1: front of his wife. I said, I was born in
Speaker 1: that area, but I was gonna kill him. So he said,
Speaker 1: he's short. His brother with we're not can allowed us.
Speaker 1: We know we can't keep us together. So there's people
Speaker 1: talking for you from the Gambino family. Bosses up on top,
Speaker 1: and decision was switching. They come from the Colombo family
Speaker 1: into that get a family, and that's how I wind
Speaker 1: up with this old man title captain. And the man
Speaker 1: was to me, he actually looked like my father was
Speaker 1: the shortest my father, and he was a sweetheart, and
Speaker 1: it to me he was my father something like he
Speaker 1: was well respected. Um that don't bother you. Like, loyalty
Speaker 1: is supposed to be everything. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and I think listening to you and and the way
Speaker 1: I lived my life, I believe loyalty is everything. You
Speaker 1: will go far with loyalty. But then you have people
Speaker 1: that hate or resent what you're doing and how other
Speaker 1: people perceive you. So now they started to hate you,
Speaker 1: Like I got this a lot, But did you ever
Speaker 1: feel like they've wanted you out because of who you
Speaker 1: was and the things that you did? And not only
Speaker 1: didn't did they want to be where you was at
Speaker 1: but and and you was in a way pretty much
Speaker 1: of them coming a lot, So did you feel like that.
Speaker 1: There was no loyalty with these people, and now I
Speaker 1: gotta be a different way. I didn't feel that with everybody.
Speaker 1: I felt it with certain people. When you're betraying me,
Speaker 1: I'll betraying. I'll do any how fuckings are killing and
Speaker 1: do anything to come at you. But if you show
Speaker 1: me loyalty, and there was a lot of loyal I
Speaker 1: don't want to put people down. There was a ton
Speaker 1: of loyal people, and I always showed respect and loyalty
Speaker 1: everything I've done in my life. That's how I've gotten respect.
Speaker 1: When I started doing this social media stuff, when it
Speaker 1: at a prison four years ago, I said, everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: break my ass off sucking remarks. Bullshit that happens a
Speaker 1: little bit everybody in their mother I got a naming
Speaker 1: nine point two percent positive ready one and people from
Speaker 1: New York, I won't mention Name's going to help the
Speaker 1: people and get in touch with me. Italian guys, Mafia
Speaker 1: guys were still mafia guys, Black guys, Hispanic guys. Guys.
Speaker 1: I did time in prison. I mean, so I feel
Speaker 1: as people getting in touch with me who I was
Speaker 1: from the forty fifty years ago. How bit if a guy,
Speaker 1: could you have but been if guys forty years ago
Speaker 1: called you up now I didn't know the whole story,
Speaker 1: and they saying me, how you feel that I ain't
Speaker 1: doing I'm watching your videos. I'm watching yourself come down.
Speaker 1: I did a couple of interviews with what the hell
Speaker 1: is his name? That the black guyed fat school batman,
Speaker 1: and I was asked to do that. I did it
Speaker 1: with pistol pete, you know, and every time I was asked, helped.
Speaker 1: That's what I do. But if you're kind of at
Speaker 1: me sideways, bro, I told guys in prison, I'm not
Speaker 1: a big guy, a small guy physically. I'll fight like
Speaker 1: a backstad but I'm small. But I told guys in
Speaker 1: prison when I got into big arguments with a guy
Speaker 1: real big, I'm telling you killed me, motherfucker, because I'm
Speaker 1: telling you what I'll do. I'm not taking this fucking
Speaker 1: b I'll come back tonight when you're sweeping. I'll stick
Speaker 1: a fucking shanking your fucking trunk. I'll guarantee you. And uh,
Speaker 1: that's my philosophy. I treat people good. I respect people.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about black people, my granddaughters by by racial
Speaker 1: Uh shold my daughter. My shows. A black guy, I
Speaker 1: would say, hey, people get out. I welcomed him. They
Speaker 1: named Dave. He's pretty well a little black guy. So
Speaker 1: I don't do anything when any of that bull shooting
Speaker 1: out against people. I tell people. You know a lot
Speaker 1: of people say, we'll stop talking to kids. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna talk that kids. I'm not gonna tell them what
Speaker 1: to do. Here's what I'm gonna tell them. You want
Speaker 1: to make money, you want to go stay over, you
Speaker 1: want to do some drugs, bro, here's what I did.
Speaker 1: I did twenty two years and fucking prisons. I was
Speaker 1: shot twice, two different times. So you're gonna wind up
Speaker 1: dad or in prison. So enjoy yourself. Do what the
Speaker 1: funk you want. But my advice is there's a lot
Speaker 1: of easy money to make money. Well we're doing right
Speaker 1: now in this room. There's guys Will Cameras who's editing
Speaker 1: is a normal, is a powerful name. From what I
Speaker 1: hit you, guys are all respected. There's a way to
Speaker 1: do it, funk going in prison. Definitely going to prison.
Speaker 1: And you know, one of the biggest things I see
Speaker 1: h always, like I told you, you and James remind
Speaker 1: me of a lot of LIFs living next stories. Your
Speaker 1: move came up young and sixuuations to where it looked
Speaker 1: like you as kind of misunderstood and where nobody helping you. Guys,
Speaker 1: you're mixing the dix Letsia right, you had to a
Speaker 1: few teachers asked right, Well, there was one teacher, he
Speaker 1: was the principal. You know, we were playing Oki and
Speaker 1: these cops caught us. They brought us into the school.
Speaker 1: I was still a little drunk, and uh, the guy,
Speaker 1: the principal was talking to the other teachers and you
Speaker 1: know that's how these people are, see how they are
Speaker 1: these grease balls. Now, it's like using the N word
Speaker 1: to a black guy ball. But it doesn't bother me
Speaker 1: at all because like rappers use the N word, Italians used,
Speaker 1: don't bother me grease balls the end. So I listened
Speaker 1: to him. Then he's swalking and I said, listen, bro hey,
Speaker 1: shut up. And then he continues talking and he says, say, day,
Speaker 1: it's the upbringing these grease bulls. Now, when he said
Speaker 1: it that way, I took it that he's talking about
Speaker 1: my mother and father, legitimate people. He's putting their down
Speaker 1: now for the nationality or race it. Do you want
Speaker 1: to call and I got up. I said, let me
Speaker 1: ask you. Of course, I just wiped the fucking shot
Speaker 1: and I broke his fucking draw and I got thrown
Speaker 1: out and I put it put into six D school.
Speaker 1: So I just went through a rough life. When I
Speaker 1: was dealing with construction, I used to work in the
Speaker 1: hood all the time. The housing projects we would do.
Speaker 1: You know, they would get contracts and I would go
Speaker 1: in and do the jobs and work in those neighborhoods.
Speaker 1: And I would work with black contractors, you know, they
Speaker 1: had I was working with a Jewish contract and he
Speaker 1: had trouble in the neighborhood because while they're building and
Speaker 1: they got a gate around the building, but at night,
Speaker 1: the black people go in and robbed, rob them blind.
Speaker 1: He said, what well I do send me it's not
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Go down at night? Stop it?
Speaker 1: We're going to stop it? Yeah, how are you gonna stop?
Speaker 1: I'll say, I went there. It was a black I
Speaker 1: can't think because his names are bulleds, a wad name.
Speaker 1: And I grabbed him. I said, bro, you're got it.
Speaker 1: You're the man in the neighborhood right, yeah, whom My
Speaker 1: name is Sami Himity Ball what you're doing is crazy. Bro,
Speaker 1: this is your neighborhood. I'll let this contractor pay you
Speaker 1: for security, legitimately, put your friends around, let the neighborhood
Speaker 1: know this is your job. Highest some of them and
Speaker 1: I'll get you to contract. You'll do that, yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it just for you. That's gonna make
Speaker 1: me strong with the contract. I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: If I could stop you, and I can help him
Speaker 1: with you and yours, and now I could help him
Speaker 1: with this minority groups in these neighborhoods, that's making me stronger.
Speaker 1: But you got guys who know how to paint, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, then I get you security and paint the contracts,
Speaker 1: open up a business, and I hope you. So I
Speaker 1: went back and I talked to the guy. He says, who,
Speaker 1: because we we got somebody who has God dogs good good,
Speaker 1: Try that first and we'll tell you what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: They're gonna beat up to God, they're gonna eat the dog,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna rob your job. Blood. So if you
Speaker 1: could do it my way, you can do it your way.
Speaker 1: How much is this gonna cost me? It's gonna cost
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck A normal contractor is for security, a
Speaker 1: normal contract for pain? They they could do those things.
Speaker 1: I stand behind it. They'll do it, and nobody will
Speaker 1: touch your job no more. I want a little lecture
Speaker 1: for that guy, all right, Sandy, I could put it
Speaker 1: on your contract when you pay the Yeah. And I
Speaker 1: don't know how many jobs I would him for you.
Speaker 1: If I a job and puss in the spot and
Speaker 1: I was having problems, even the union pressure couldn't get
Speaker 1: this guy to budget, I would get in touch with
Speaker 1: be a favor, get a bus. All of those guys
Speaker 1: with the bad daddas and the nights, they go down
Speaker 1: to the job and create a problem when we work
Speaker 1: making money that way, there's all kinds of ways to
Speaker 1: make money, legitimate. Shooting me, trying to killing each other.
Speaker 1: I look at this thing into and you once against
Speaker 1: me over there, took a brother brother, too much of us.
Speaker 1: I mean, you killed each other. Bro. People seeing Sammy
Speaker 1: and when they hear your name, they you know, a
Speaker 1: dootmatic you think of this monster. But sitting there listening
Speaker 1: to you, you have a lot of people even with
Speaker 1: being Sammy the book, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So where's the bad guy? I want to talk to
Speaker 1: the best sent me. Well, let's gun called me and
Speaker 1: motherfucker's called us. What do you say my thing is?
Speaker 1: But when you say that's that was the way that
Speaker 1: y'all had it back then. Was like the power of
Speaker 1: the respect and the and the and the mouthpiece to
Speaker 1: to negotiate was better than the power of the pistol
Speaker 1: for the way. Oh absolutely, Listen, when you got certain
Speaker 1: powers and you use your head. Uh, look what normal
Speaker 1: is doing. I mean I don't know hold the all
Speaker 1: and but I hear it about him all over the place.
Speaker 1: That's where I'm here. And you guys, But if you
Speaker 1: use your head and talking to these kids, not you personally,
Speaker 1: but if you use your head and you do things,
Speaker 1: you can make money. Listen, people love people who got
Speaker 1: balls and brains together. They'll love you even more. People
Speaker 1: fear you because you're nasty and you've got balls and
Speaker 1: you're using it up way, but use the balls and
Speaker 1: brains in a positive way. They were only still fee you,
Speaker 1: but they'll love you. The hardest combination to get is
Speaker 1: when a guy loves, fears and respects you. It's a
Speaker 1: hard combination. I met with Mark Woolburg I met with
Speaker 1: my said Mark, and he's the greatest guy. I really
Speaker 1: liked Mark bug Willburger Heart, I said, how do you
Speaker 1: do this? Wow? Every time I go to a doctor nurse,
Speaker 1: So you know, Mark Woolburger, I said, every woman named
Speaker 1: the country wants to bang you and every guy wants
Speaker 1: to beat you. How did you get those two groups
Speaker 1: to love you at the same time. And he's a
Speaker 1: perfect example. He was a bad boy growing up. I
Speaker 1: hope I don't get in trouble with Mark, but he
Speaker 1: was a bad boy growing up. Then he rapped and
Speaker 1: he did something else. Then he did movies, rest this issue,
Speaker 1: and he's a great guy. So you could use those things.
Speaker 1: Norm's example, your example, your example, the people in this room.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get some of these people in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I don't get a reception like this, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: and that way. I don't get that. You know he's
Speaker 1: gonna educated talk, right. You know, you guys are doing
Speaker 1: the right thing. I hope the show up takes off
Speaker 1: and goes triple with this, if that's possible. But it
Speaker 1: was really going me for one. I mean, I'm like like, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm listening to you because I grew up just like that. Um,
Speaker 1: I thought being the bad guy was the right way.
Speaker 1: Now that I'm older, I see being a good guy.
Speaker 1: I get more out of being honest about myself and
Speaker 1: about where I live, and I'm and I'm reaping the
Speaker 1: benefits from it, and I just being humble with ain't
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with it. It don't make you, we need it,
Speaker 1: don't make you this punk and man I'm in. I
Speaker 1: mean your life inspired mine because I'm listening to you
Speaker 1: and I'm like, damn, I that's what I did. Like
Speaker 1: I used to tell the guys in the Motorcycle Club,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna do nothing that that. I ain't gonna
Speaker 1: ask you to do nothing that I haven't done. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm the boss. I'm taking off first. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. If I don't fight, we don't
Speaker 1: have to. So I'm listening to you and it's like, wow,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe all of our life it's pretty much
Speaker 1: the same thing. Because he has to re repeat itself
Speaker 1: and wow, your storious wet we Honestly, we have people
Speaker 1: like Ralph Spiro trying to pull me down to get ahead.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm like a step step black. He
Speaker 1: wants to step by me and get ahead. We have
Speaker 1: people doing that right now. I see society. Right now,
Speaker 1: I look at society and I see things that are
Speaker 1: going on, and all of these things trying to make
Speaker 1: one race against the other. To me, I'm a shoot dunk,
Speaker 1: I'm a gangster. I see it. That's so clear to be.
Speaker 1: Maybe the other people they don't see it. I see
Speaker 1: it that if they want people black and white people
Speaker 1: to hate each other and fight and everything's racist today,
Speaker 1: why I look at it? Why where they get that?
Speaker 1: You know, Becausian black, I be doing great sports people, singers, entertainers.
Speaker 1: Hip hop took over the old book music, and why
Speaker 1: are they doing that the same fucking thing to have
Speaker 1: us fight, hold us to funk down while these rebbal
Speaker 1: elites fucking wind up with all the cash and we're
Speaker 1: not looking at them because we're busy fighting, busy bigger
Speaker 1: than amongst each other. You know, I've heard you mentioned
Speaker 1: hip hop a couple of times, and that's the thing, um,
Speaker 1: Like I said, gangsterism has influenced the whole world, like right,
Speaker 1: and you being a major rapper, major figure, pioneer, now
Speaker 1: you know source of hip hop industry. You remember back
Speaker 1: in the nineties when everybody started naming itself after Italian monsters. Monsters. Um,
Speaker 1: you had a million godies around, We had a million compouns,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean? They were names
Speaker 1: after the notorious gang. How did you guys feeling the
Speaker 1: jay limited for all these rappers naming itself go and
Speaker 1: all this other stuff. Well for me, and then then
Speaker 1: heard my name in a couple of hipps probably too much.
Speaker 1: When I worked out. I love that be to work out.
Speaker 1: There's no better music to me to work out. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be hip hopping around on a little
Speaker 1: the places. Especially that beat motivates me when they work out.
Speaker 1: You know, when I was young, my son and my
Speaker 1: daughter noticed people bull time here ull time of course,
Speaker 1: okay bull time do them And somebody had come to me,
Speaker 1: my daughter, the son, somebody and said, you know, you
Speaker 1: can get involved with them doing what and pop it
Speaker 1: or whatever. They will make it. Back then, I think
Speaker 1: they were the original almost I said, no, what the
Speaker 1: fucking mistake I made to kick right up the spoor
Speaker 1: was times? But so they were around, and they were
Speaker 1: right from my neighbor that I believe they. I believe
Speaker 1: they were right from Cody own and by right yea,
Speaker 1: so they were right from Tony And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So all this bullshit that we didn't get long or
Speaker 1: of course there was an arguments and price there were
Speaker 1: always is, but it's not It wasn't that racial when
Speaker 1: don't get black people like they're making and that nothing happens,
Speaker 1: you know, because they're telling was heavily involved in the
Speaker 1: music industry back yes, absolutely, to what extent? How much
Speaker 1: con trove do you think that they know? They had
Speaker 1: tremendous control. They had these music stations that was his name,
Speaker 1: something Freed or something, and they could get your record
Speaker 1: played on their music station, you know, so they had connects.
Speaker 1: You guys control radio. When the resolustry, I think in
Speaker 1: a lot of ways it probably steel is about of
Speaker 1: control because those contracts they're giving these keys. So it's
Speaker 1: always been like that as far as the music is
Speaker 1: business is concerned. You know, we didn't control a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff back in the days as far as the
Speaker 1: record business, publishing and royalties and all that stuff. So
Speaker 1: you heard me speak on that a lot about what
Speaker 1: was owned as far as masters and who would do
Speaker 1: whatever you could do a record deal and only get
Speaker 1: too per the record, and you did everything. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was just the times it was in. And today
Speaker 1: you're still going on like that. You see people getting
Speaker 1: into these three sixty deals where I advance you a
Speaker 1: little money, but I'm gonna taken ownership, you know. So
Speaker 1: I don't think nothing has changed to this day. It's
Speaker 1: different hands. That's that's always doing. James saying no way,
Speaker 1: you know, you know what, and I keep saying that
Speaker 1: you guys are kid experience. As I'm listening to this
Speaker 1: sound like some ship James and saying exactly that sounds
Speaker 1: like some stuff Peo would say. And I love as
Speaker 1: you said one of your things, you go everywhere. You
Speaker 1: always had your guns right the first time out? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. I always had it the first time. I
Speaker 1: not not any more of the times have changed. When
Speaker 1: I cut out in uh ninety five, uh fairly part
Speaker 1: of ninety six. Yeah, I was held all the time.
Speaker 1: All that's on because the times were different that we
Speaker 1: couldn't come. I knew they were gonna come, but I
Speaker 1: was ready and uh I was just gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: will ended in the streets, will do it. But now
Speaker 1: the times are completely different. You know a lot of
Speaker 1: guys sacked them off. They don't kill people no more.
Speaker 1: They don't do a lot of things. So what happens.
Speaker 1: And now I know a lot of cops and and
Speaker 1: and FBI agents. I knew them. I've actually became friends
Speaker 1: with them. Some of them some of them go guys,
Speaker 1: some of them are not. But uh, what they said
Speaker 1: is that when you don't create vicious crimes, their squads
Speaker 1: that are working on you, when your gang and or
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, they go down, they focus on
Speaker 1: the worst of the worst. So in thirteen they're killing
Speaker 1: people like they were confetti for no reason at all.
Speaker 1: I like your bike, they kill you. So the FBI
Speaker 1: now takes those agents that are working on you. I'm
Speaker 1: that sage p but you and they put them on down.
Speaker 1: So God go kill him from so hopeful basically seven
Speaker 1: three no more. Let spend this energy, this money on
Speaker 1: him because they're doing a boding crimes, right, So let's
Speaker 1: focus on them, right, So you're smart in a way
Speaker 1: that mafia is backed away from you, don't see. Like
Speaker 1: when I was younger, and even before I went away,
Speaker 1: it was like the Jesse James that it was sucking
Speaker 1: a bouties everywhere every time he turned around. So when
Speaker 1: you stop that, you're not gonna take that kind of heat,
Speaker 1: and then you're not gonna get the truly he is
Speaker 1: the sentences. You're gonna get life for our pro thirty years,
Speaker 1: fifty years, and hundred years. You're finished. You don't miss
Speaker 1: you don't miss that, that that vibe, that that energy
Speaker 1: that you used to be, you know, to come and
Speaker 1: if I'm on the gamest right now, on the gangster,
Speaker 1: but I got my family and my friends, people who
Speaker 1: wanted to make people. I deal with people I like,
Speaker 1: I'm cool if I don't like you, said her and you,
Speaker 1: I get the funk away from I don't know aboutege
Speaker 1: shipful is that? And I'm not calling back to prison
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna go back to prison because these
Speaker 1: guys are sucking asshole exactly just like fun. You got
Speaker 1: to prison for something, right, you know that She's like,
Speaker 1: my fuckers, you don't have to funk with I'm gonna
Speaker 1: funk with you and you ain't gotta fun. Let's see
Speaker 1: just this. Then you're got to do children. But I say,
Speaker 1: you know you don't spoke nothing about the truth today
Speaker 1: because with success it brings a certain amount envy and
Speaker 1: jealousy that we all had those little texts montherfuers. We
Speaker 1: don't even know they're saying ship about it. He only
Speaker 1: just made up the bonus, you know, just I'm talking
Speaker 1: about saying on him and say, oh and if we
Speaker 1: ens him the age where most pomers will leave anything
Speaker 1: that's on the left up. I wanted to see it.
Speaker 1: I am from Mars and I am want to destroy
Speaker 1: this climate. The next tree farm was a fall y'all
Speaker 1: want send me a dollar? I guarantee you if I
Speaker 1: get a grown enough message that this will be open.
Speaker 1: Smother from sending me money will believe it well, because
Speaker 1: from doing that, I meant get menderstand man, what we
Speaker 1: have here is the same wool. And then you have
Speaker 1: other people. You have gangsters by nature that was born
Speaker 1: to be what Sammy and for you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then you have guys that sat around the table
Speaker 1: and listen to those stairs and they said believe that
Speaker 1: they are gangsters. Those are what you call the water
Speaker 1: down catch. You know what I'm saying, that met him
Speaker 1: that room. But it is the truth that that sitting
Speaker 1: there comes they simply a basement with of the things.
Speaker 1: He's a jerk ball for this is comes up with
Speaker 1: someone last he's a bitch, say he's never gonna even
Speaker 1: come to your face and say that he's not gonna
Speaker 1: come to mind as old as I am need gonna
Speaker 1: do it. This is a big ship thing. This is
Speaker 1: gone and the people out there. It happens on this
Speaker 1: like he said, on this YouTube and all these channels.
Speaker 1: It's happening because people want to put him down. That
Speaker 1: should make you want to listen to him more. Because
Speaker 1: some jerk office saying that, hundreds of thousands of people
Speaker 1: saying he's a dry buff that maybe he is, but
Speaker 1: when this little turmites sitting in their mommy's fucking bason
Speaker 1: and hitting fucking computer ships, listen to this guy, right, sure,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask this questions? Not pretty sure because you
Speaker 1: know the face won't though hopefully well break. You mentioned
Speaker 1: that you were heavily a ball for the unions. Right yeah,
Speaker 1: where the fund is? Jimmy off I was gon said,
Speaker 1: because anybody so nobody here about these guys that they
Speaker 1: have a fun with out with this guys think like
Speaker 1: is he around? And he funked up somehow like he's
Speaker 1: missing for a reason. He's he's missing for a reason.
Speaker 1: You know. I'll tell you guys real quick. Jimmy Hoff,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Hof was a good guy. He was in the unions,
Speaker 1: he control the unions, and he was with the mafia.
Speaker 1: He had problems with the Kennedy's and all that ship.
Speaker 1: They took it away from they put it away. Now
Speaker 1: you can't control it. He's commit the felon. They the
Speaker 1: mafia put somebody else in from Darning while he was
Speaker 1: in prison. When it came out, they called him, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: you always work with us, you will, good guy. There's
Speaker 1: nobody who knows that when you're better than you. So
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do when I leave this guy in
Speaker 1: because he's really working, go with us, but you're gonna
Speaker 1: watch over him. You're gonna be a guy from him
Speaker 1: to you to us. And you never really got a
Speaker 1: piece in the party. Said, that's mort, that's mort. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. He was told, this isn't a
Speaker 1: candy story. This ain't you know. It's just as well
Speaker 1: tell you what he said. No, say, you know, I
Speaker 1: gotta live that county and God knows when he went,
Speaker 1: but he's gone. He ain't relaxing. He ain't relaxing. Sit
Speaker 1: and Pema Colas no work. I was because we kind
Speaker 1: of kept this interview a secret coming up to it,
Speaker 1: because that's just what we do. More paceybody, yeah, everything,
Speaker 1: and it came in first, so we were really excited.
Speaker 1: We thank you for coming up here. No questions like
Speaker 1: actually these movies like TV shows like The Sopranos and
Speaker 1: things like the hot flows of those shows too. We have.
Speaker 1: The Surprisers was really really well done. There was the
Speaker 1: Cavalcanti family and Easy. It was one of the ten
Speaker 1: or fifteen percent true, any five percent. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: do a scripted show now, I want to reverse any
Speaker 1: five percent true, ten ten percent about how they will
Speaker 1: do what they want. That's number one. Number two. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's in any contracts. So why people
Speaker 1: spoke to you and you answer your question about Julie
Speaker 1: off and you may be answered you only one seventeen
Speaker 1: dollars and sixty guys, stay a little bit boy, you
Speaker 1: know no, So you know because we watch the shows,
Speaker 1: Like I said, America's effectually the thing that she's put
Speaker 1: off the games. You're gonna go for usurprous to mini society,
Speaker 1: to all these movement of all these the lifestyle, it's
Speaker 1: the lifestyle. It's the lifestyle of the underworld. You know,
Speaker 1: just the being able to, you know, articulate new stuff
Speaker 1: when you want to do it your own rules. You know,
Speaker 1: a crew of a family, you know, boys together, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's what fascinates people about the gangster lifestyle.
Speaker 1: It's a different codebody want to be tough. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta be tough, Like I gotta be tougher than you
Speaker 1: just because you bigger, mean, don't mean you can vote me.
Speaker 1: So I gotta show you that I'm tougher than you. No,
Speaker 1: they shoot me because the big dudes come off as
Speaker 1: the ones the mot abilities and whatever. Yeah. So see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So when you're seeing got this show,
Speaker 1: we got to shoot you type of mother, I gonna
Speaker 1: be getting shot. Yeah. I think I astual. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, let's see what people might have been some
Speaker 1: real kid involved that that seemed like it was a
Speaker 1: it was fairly accurate. Wasn't accurate at all. That's never
Speaker 1: There was a lot of a lot of beans ship.
Speaker 1: There's not about well, we can't wait to you do
Speaker 1: something so people can see the real way, because if
Speaker 1: they saw a real they're going to be scared of
Speaker 1: of trying to live their life. No, I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: it's good to be. We're all games. We're about to
Speaker 1: finish this up. I ain't live unless you're fucking feeming.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna eat together a little bit. And I
Speaker 1: took someselfs down down with so many women. It might
Speaker 1: be called me on that because being retoed, if you
Speaker 1: know how to handle it and be a blue guy,
Speaker 1: you know what, the strongest fucking is gonna say something crazy,
Speaker 1: A fall out of one, No, the most powerful funking one.
Speaker 1: I had a friend of mine who was dying against
Speaker 1: in tremendous pain last few days, and I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: him and it was smiling. When it's smiling about love,
Speaker 1: you've a pain? Want to get this? Is that nonsunicol m.
Speaker 1: I know it's a tremendous paint. I could be cool,
Speaker 1: block and let me get yourself nervously. Why you smile?
Speaker 1: All the love I had with my family and my
Speaker 1: close friends, That's what I'm looking at now. I don't
Speaker 1: feel love pain, right? I feel love well, that blue
Speaker 1: men fuck away that blue me right. Love is a
Speaker 1: short thing. I'm gonna talk about a black hand man
Speaker 1: want The kid did so much for black people, not
Speaker 1: going gun one night, one punch needs fun. He used
Speaker 1: common sense, he used love and compassion, and they bowed
Speaker 1: black people from here, dah was it the whole job
Speaker 1: but a little while love And like you said, you're
Speaker 1: a tough guy. People look up to you in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood when you walk, when you're tough guy, they love
Speaker 1: the ship at you. When you give them opportunities. You
Speaker 1: call that kid over your trouble a sawbuck in his
Speaker 1: pocket or something. And when the favorite if you can
Speaker 1: help me with my company and you ticket, they love you.
Speaker 1: That's a true tough guy. You don't have to act
Speaker 1: like a tough guy. You don't have to fucking do
Speaker 1: anything crazy. He only has to do that when he
Speaker 1: has to. But if you do those other things, like
Speaker 1: I said, this guy's a perfect example. As big as
Speaker 1: he is fucking six poll americic for almost aids R
Speaker 1: I ever missed. But he's a sucking sweetheunt. I could
Speaker 1: I could tell and I and I'm good at character,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a heavyweight and you you'll live. You'll
Speaker 1: I see it, I feel it. I don't even know
Speaker 1: you up until to that. And whoever that fucking guys
Speaker 1: the camera beat me and fucking chat, well, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: figet that he beat me in chest it. They're gonna
Speaker 1: let that sat it again. I tried to achieve right,
Speaker 1: he hasn't. I'm I'm gonna get it with this. I
Speaker 1: got this one last person. I'm gonna give you a
Speaker 1: date of location, December six five, Smaller Stackhouse podcast around.
Speaker 1: I planned it, I put it together, I ran it,
Speaker 1: conducted it. It's on my podcast. Um, you can hear
Speaker 1: it the whole story I've been I got nine episodes
Speaker 1: out in season one. Season two is out right now.
Speaker 1: I'm no. I got three episodes out and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about my life sting blood Jack. But what about what's
Speaker 1: the name of the podcast? I would think, and y'all, y' y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all gonna put it on my link is not gonna
Speaker 1: be on a Bunna made page. That was gonna because
Speaker 1: that was a dumb little false heads to young was
Speaker 1: the bush that that's all chime to go? You got
Speaker 1: in the power because I guess this podcasting. You know,
Speaker 1: guy was bad with his maid and just doing a
Speaker 1: bunch of crops. I mean that's you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it was a sound thing, but like maybe kind
Speaker 1: of you know quick you know what, it's something or
Speaker 1: a lot of dances. What you mad? I'm going you
Speaker 1: want to die a woman? Who I'm truck Now I'll
Speaker 1: kill with you. Go back a woman, but not in
Speaker 1: your fucking ask with your maid. And now your maid
Speaker 1: is telling your wife, yeah, you go do the issues.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, go you got a ton of money,
Speaker 1: a ton of gs. Go do your thing. So it's
Speaker 1: just abandon him. It's like one more sorry before we go.
Speaker 1: This is an important one. My guy Tylo used to
Speaker 1: go to the the next restaurant, neighborhood restaurant with his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: In the two guys called is goodman and wants you
Speaker 1: the line you take his wife there. So one night
Speaker 1: he was in the restaurant, Tyler's telling man. So I
Speaker 1: went in there and I'm sitting with my bomana. The
Speaker 1: door opens up and call again being on Bosters Bold
Speaker 1: Bosters walks in with five guys. You don't say you
Speaker 1: know you don't buy a drink, you don't do, not
Speaker 1: know you're doing is a little about yet Oh that's it.
Speaker 1: So it's very cheating. So called ambito sits down, Tyler
Speaker 1: shitting it's for mom. What did the guys get up?
Speaker 1: Comes over there many time? Why you don't know? It
Speaker 1: roses your girlfriend? I don't know by name? Rosy? Yes,
Speaker 1: sit over here, go sit next to the h in
Speaker 1: the end. Check it's next to color there. So Carl Van, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, tell us toy, you come here up, don't you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's your wife on the cage? Yeah, he says, what
Speaker 1: do you think these people who work at what they're saying? Nothing? No? Nothing, none?
Speaker 1: They remember saying nothing. No, of course they're they're friend.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about what do
Speaker 1: you mean behind your black put it to this. Oh
Speaker 1: she's so much better looking than your wife. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. So you love your wife and you don't
Speaker 1: even speculate, but her feelings would be what people were
Speaker 1: talking about being all right, an, let me ask you
Speaker 1: another question. Talk do you love me? Of course? Of
Speaker 1: course I love you. I don't I hope that you
Speaker 1: don't love me like you love your wife. Now that
Speaker 1: is another words. If you can't show your wife literally fat,
Speaker 1: literally shot, well I canna trust you love me. So
Speaker 1: I heard not easy, a lot of sense. So with
Speaker 1: that I close. I'm gonna go eat your food and leave. Well.
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