Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I couldn't wait to have my next guest,
Speaker 1: my brother from another mother. It's been a wild baby.
Speaker 2: It's been a while, but I mean, we're talking about
Speaker 2: a future Hall of Famer at the tightest spot, one
Speaker 2: of the greatest who have ever played the game, the
Speaker 2: one and only Travis Kelsey of the rating, two time
Speaker 2: defending Super Bowl champion, Kids City Chief.
Speaker 1: What's up, Big Time? Are you doing?
Speaker 3: Man? Man, It's so good to be on here with this.
Speaker 3: It's been too long, man, it's been too long. I
Speaker 3: miss your big guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I miss you too.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I mean, damn, how times have changed.
Speaker 2: I mean, the brother got the new Heights podcast, God
Speaker 2: damned near three million subscribers, about to win another Super
Speaker 2: I mean, every way I turn around, I'm like, he's
Speaker 2: living a good life.
Speaker 1: How is life treating Travis Kelce these days?
Speaker 3: Man? Man, I can't complain about a single thing. I
Speaker 3: wouldn't if I could, But I just I'm enjoying playing
Speaker 3: football right now at the highest level. You know, we're
Speaker 3: back at it. Punch started taking into the dance and
Speaker 3: we're rocking and rolling. Baby.
Speaker 2: You know what, I applored your response, because I thought
Speaker 2: the response that you gave to people that were acting
Speaker 2: as if y'all were running from or avoiding playing, wishing
Speaker 2: that you couldn't play the but the Cincinnati Biggles, I'm like,
Speaker 2: excuse me, Yeah, he should have cursed the entire football
Speaker 2: world out for saying such a thing.
Speaker 1: Are you shocked that even after all the success.
Speaker 2: That you guys have had, that you have people still
Speaker 2: chirping about y'all along the lines of something like that.
Speaker 3: You know, you would think that Andy Reid has gotten
Speaker 3: the respect from the rest of the league that every
Speaker 3: single time he's he's on the football field, he's playing
Speaker 3: to win the game. You know. Obviously we had bigger
Speaker 3: fish to fry, and at that point, you know, getting
Speaker 3: healthy and ready for this this final stretch was the
Speaker 3: biggest thing. But Coach Reid, anytime he's there, he's making
Speaker 3: sure he's motivating and challenging guys to be at the
Speaker 3: best and go out there and play a you know,
Speaker 3: play a game to win it. And so I think,
Speaker 3: you know, everybody's gonna chirp and say what they want,
Speaker 3: but I know the integrity of the team here and
Speaker 3: we were going out there to win that game.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, my point is I I certainly would not
Speaker 2: accuse y'all a losing on purpose or whatever, but.
Speaker 1: I was discussed.
Speaker 2: I said five first down to the whole damn game.
Speaker 2: I'm my good lord at Mercy. I mean, I expected
Speaker 2: better than that from the third year.
Speaker 1: For crying out loud, but it is what it is.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, y'all are.
Speaker 2: Raining two time defending Super Bowl champions. Do you believe
Speaker 2: y'all have a better chance to win it this year
Speaker 2: than you did last year?
Speaker 3: Even the year before, you know, setting ourselves up with
Speaker 3: the with the one seed, having everybody have to come
Speaker 3: through Arrowhead. I think this year it was such a
Speaker 3: different It was such a different team, such a different feel.
Speaker 3: We were barely winning football games at the end of
Speaker 3: the game, so there is always that that feeling of
Speaker 3: we gotta be better, we gotta be better, we gotta
Speaker 3: be better. And right now we're playing our best football man,
Speaker 3: and I'm definitely feeling confident, confident heck that this team
Speaker 3: can make a run at it.
Speaker 2: Confidence there's no reason it shouldn't be there, Travis. But
Speaker 2: I got to ask this question, when you consider the
Speaker 2: fact that y'all have home field advantage and the road
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl has to come through Arrowhead Stadium.
Speaker 2: I know that's a plus, but one could easily juxt
Speaker 2: opposed that to saying there's a bit more pressure because
Speaker 2: last year, after beating Miami, they had no chance to
Speaker 2: get y'all whether the minute the mediaologist said it was
Speaker 2: gonna be the freezer type.
Speaker 1: I knew Miami was done. They had no chance.
Speaker 2: Okay, but then after that, you go up against Buffalo
Speaker 2: in Buffalo, you beat them. You go to the AFC
Speaker 2: Championship game against Baltimore, and Baltimore you beat them. So
Speaker 2: looking at that, could one make the argument that there's
Speaker 2: even more.
Speaker 1: Pressure on y'all now.
Speaker 2: To be the first three peat Super Bowl champions in
Speaker 2: NFL history. But you got home field advantage, or if
Speaker 2: you could win on the road last year, why wouldn't
Speaker 2: you be able to win at home this year?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think anybody challenges me more than me.
Speaker 3: You know, I've put the expectations on myself and this
Speaker 3: team more than anybody could put it on put it
Speaker 3: on us. And that being said, you know, I like
Speaker 3: you were saying that I've won someone else's stadium, and
Speaker 3: I've won them in my stadium. I've also lost in
Speaker 3: my stadium. So handling this situation the right way, playing
Speaker 3: playing with the momentum of the crowd, not letting the
Speaker 3: you know, the game get too big, and and uh
Speaker 3: and and you know, I think the biggest thing is
Speaker 3: when you have home field advantage, you got to set
Speaker 3: the tone early. You got to set the tone early,
Speaker 3: come out hot and and let the crowd be a
Speaker 3: part of it, give them something to get riled up
Speaker 3: for and cheer four and let the other team feel
Speaker 3: like they're in a hostile environment. But you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's it's all mentality, man, It's all mentality. And what
Speaker 3: we're doing out on the field. We love Arrowhead and
Speaker 3: how crazy it gets, but we know we got to
Speaker 3: handle business on the field.
Speaker 2: And by the way, I got to throw myself on
Speaker 2: the swore let America. No damn it. I mean, you're
Speaker 2: my brother from another mother. But I've lied to you
Speaker 2: for years. I've been telling you I'm gonn get the
Speaker 2: Arrowhead stadium and I haven't done it yet.
Speaker 3: So I come on, man, come on me, it saw me.
Speaker 1: I got to get the freezing ass Arrowhead Stadium. But
Speaker 1: let me let me ask you.
Speaker 2: This, and I say this, half half, you know, playing halfway? Playing, well,
Speaker 2: you're gonna stop lying to the American public and telling
Speaker 2: them you thinking about retirement.
Speaker 1: I know you thirty five.
Speaker 2: Years of age, you just completed your twelve season, But
Speaker 2: damn ninety seven catches, eight hundred and twenty three receiving yards. Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at you this year. Andy Reid, ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, damn sure, ain't going nowhere. The Arrowhead Faithful
Speaker 2: ain't going anywhere. What you're doing talking about you might,
Speaker 2: you might contemplate with time and for.
Speaker 3: Listen, I'll it changes every single day. Man. I love
Speaker 3: everything that I'm doing in this building. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, you know, I'm not having that
Speaker 3: that extreme success on the field as I as I
Speaker 3: have individually. Man, But I'm excited. I'm excited for these
Speaker 3: next couple of games to play up at Arrowhead, to
Speaker 3: finish this season off, and I'll reevaluate it like I
Speaker 3: always do, and I'll probably tell myself how much I
Speaker 3: love this thing, and I'll come back next year. But
Speaker 3: it's just it's something that you have to you have
Speaker 3: to keep in the perspective man. And and I never
Speaker 3: want to get to the point where I'm not helping
Speaker 3: this team win or I'm hurting this team more than
Speaker 3: I'm helping this team. So as long as I'm coming
Speaker 3: out here playing good football and enjoying coming into the
Speaker 3: building every day with my guys, you'll see me in
Speaker 3: a Chiefs uniform.
Speaker 2: Well, let me remind you of some stats. I just
Speaker 2: want to throw this out at you.
Speaker 1: Last year you had.
Speaker 2: Ninety three receptions.
Speaker 1: This year you had ninety seven.
Speaker 2: Now you had about nine hundred and eighty four receiving
Speaker 2: yards this year is and the eight figures, I get
Speaker 2: that part. They're the playoffs, the Rob Travis and you
Speaker 2: had thirty two receptions with three hundred and fifty five yards. Okay,
Speaker 2: I mean I don't see the kind of drop off
Speaker 2: that you're alluding to educate football lovers out there about
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 1: That you think you might be missing now compared to
Speaker 1: what you may have had last year and years.
Speaker 2: Prior that has you contemplating stuff on a day to
Speaker 2: day basis.
Speaker 3: Well, the biggest thing is is some of the most
Speaker 3: fun you ever have in this game is having the
Speaker 3: ball in your hands. And that being said, making guys
Speaker 3: miss with something I always prior to myself on and
Speaker 3: really like that was the staple. You know, I made
Speaker 3: the play more than what it was supposed to get.
Speaker 3: So if I got a deep cross at eighteen yards,
Speaker 3: I'm not just catching the ball and getting tackled. I'm
Speaker 3: turning that eighteen yard game into twenty thirty forty plus
Speaker 3: yard game. And over the past years, being able to
Speaker 3: make guys miss just it's gotten a little bit tougher,
Speaker 3: and whether or not they just know my moves and
Speaker 3: I gotta switch it up, or I gotta, you know,
Speaker 3: break through tackles or find another way to trick them
Speaker 3: so I can make a miss. But that's the biggest thing,
Speaker 3: is being able to make guys miss in space and
Speaker 3: getting those extra yards that aren't necessarily in the scheme
Speaker 3: of the play.
Speaker 2: You're confiding in me about it, so it's safe to
Speaker 2: assume it's a conversation you've had with Andy Reid, it's
Speaker 2: a conversation you've had with Patrick Mahomes. What have they
Speaker 2: told you about what they see from you out on
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 3: You know, I haven't really talked to anybody about this.
Speaker 3: You know, I think I'm still enjoying playing the game,
Speaker 3: and when I'm in the building, I'm working to get better,
Speaker 3: working to get you know, those that extra you know,
Speaker 3: strength or that extra quickness to be able to make
Speaker 3: guys miss. It's it's a NonStop like staircase of success
Speaker 3: here and weekend week out. Coach Read has challenged us,
Speaker 3: our tight end room has challenged me to to do
Speaker 3: more of that throughout the season, get more than what
Speaker 3: we're just to getting on the catch. And it's a focus.
Speaker 3: It's a focus that is uh that's been there since
Speaker 3: the since the since I've got here in Kansas City.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm I'm not contemplating it too much,
Speaker 3: but at the same time, I'm always trying to be
Speaker 3: better than I am right now.
Speaker 2: Well, I got I got a personal complaint from my
Speaker 2: brother from another mother. I got a personal complainate right here,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Tell you what it is.
Speaker 3: Travis.
Speaker 2: You know when you used to go in the in zone,
Speaker 2: I mean, my brother got flavor. You understand, all white
Speaker 2: dudes don't have this kind of flavor that this brother has.
Speaker 2: The Travis Kelsey and the dances that you will come
Speaker 2: up with in the end zone. I mean that stuff
Speaker 2: was epic. I think you kind of dial that back
Speaker 2: a little bit. And dare I say you got a
Speaker 2: little bit conservative. Might be a spike here, you might
Speaker 2: slap a high five. I don't see the flavor, the celebrations,
Speaker 2: the dance.
Speaker 1: Moves that you used to rock anymore.
Speaker 2: I understand you ain't catching a whole bunch of touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I get that point. You got other people to do
Speaker 2: that for you. But you're still getting the end zone
Speaker 2: from time to time. And I know you go do
Speaker 2: it in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: What's up with that?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 1: What what happened to that flavor?
Speaker 3: Bro? I mean, would I think you just called called
Speaker 3: me out? Man? I think I need to get back
Speaker 3: to it. I think I need to get back to it.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, the next one I get in there,
Speaker 3: I'll make sure I get jiggy for you. Man. It's
Speaker 3: definitely a part of just loving the game, man, and
Speaker 3: enjoying the game, and having the showmanship to to play
Speaker 3: with the crowd and play with the teammates, and and
Speaker 3: the excitement after you score a touchdown. So I think
Speaker 3: you just, you know what, you might get me back
Speaker 3: into my old.
Speaker 1: Way right, get back in your own way.
Speaker 2: That way, you're gonna stay a few more years in
Speaker 2: Kansas City.
Speaker 1: You don't need to go nowhere. Listen, we don't need
Speaker 1: we don't need to be a Tyreek Hill. I know
Speaker 1: that's your former teammate, and you love him, And I
Speaker 1: got love for Tyreek Hill. I think I love him
Speaker 1: to death because I think he's elite.
Speaker 2: I personally believe the biggest mistake, how do you leave
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahos?
Speaker 1: How do you leave Patrick mahol.
Speaker 2: That you want to get the money. But if you're
Speaker 2: go leave and you're gonna get the money, Travis, you
Speaker 2: can't go out and say your next quarterback is gonna
Speaker 2: be comparable to Patrick Maholes.
Speaker 1: Could you at least give me that? Could you at
Speaker 1: least give me that, Travis.
Speaker 3: At least that you know what? You know, we love
Speaker 3: the Cheetah. And he was he was he was being
Speaker 3: a good teammates what he being, so I respect him
Speaker 3: saying it. And he was being hopeful and and and
Speaker 3: Tua came out and had an unbelievable year last year.
Speaker 3: Obviously he's had the concussions and everything, but there's nobody
Speaker 3: like Patrick Mahomes and everybody knows that. But he was
Speaker 3: just being a good teammate trying to shout out his
Speaker 3: new QB. We missed the guy and uh and I
Speaker 3: still love him to death. Man, that Chita will forever
Speaker 3: be one of the most explosive players that have ever
Speaker 3: played this game. And uh and and and a true
Speaker 3: brother to me. Man.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, man, let me let me get a little
Speaker 2: personal with you right here, because you and I have
Speaker 2: known each other for years. I got a lot of
Speaker 2: love you, you know me. I don't ask a bunch
Speaker 2: of questions. I ain't gonna ask one. I ain't gonna
Speaker 2: ask a bunch of questions now. But we're gonna get
Speaker 2: a little personal here for a second. Ruh, How's life
Speaker 2: my brother, Amy Travis Kelsey? Off the football field?
Speaker 1: You you you living a little bit better than most.
Speaker 1: Could you explain?
Speaker 3: And I'm enjoying all aspects a lot that man. You
Speaker 3: are happy and I couldn't be happier to have that.
Speaker 3: You know, that confidence and that comfort off the field
Speaker 3: and all the support I could ever ask for in
Speaker 3: the stadium.
Speaker 2: Man, Yo, Travis, I got a confession to make, bro all.
Speaker 2: I never really listened to her music before I went
Speaker 2: to her concert.
Speaker 1: Travis, it's the greatest confert I've been through my life.
Speaker 3: It's off the change.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. It's the greatest concert I ever
Speaker 1: been to in my life.
Speaker 2: I mean, and my daughter's hood within me because they
Speaker 2: got me to take.
Speaker 1: Ten of their friends.
Speaker 2: And that was two thousand Apartmas twousand dollars on that
Speaker 2: damn concert, two thousand dollars. By the way, I ain't
Speaker 2: got your money. I ain't got your money, Travis. I
Speaker 2: ain't got a damn sore. I don't have her money.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't.
Speaker 2: I said, this better be worth it, and I gotta
Speaker 2: confess it was so damn good.
Speaker 1: I went back twice.
Speaker 3: Steven Nicks, Oh yeah, we went.
Speaker 1: I went twice. I went to two Taylor Swift concerts.
Speaker 3: Broil had you singing along the second time. You started something,
Speaker 3: and ain't that something?
Speaker 1: Ain't that something?
Speaker 2: With that being said, when you look at your life
Speaker 2: right now, has that added to your football talent and
Speaker 2: your estimation or has it been I'm going to compare
Speaker 2: it to a fighter, whereas you starving, you struggling, you
Speaker 2: going out there and you hardcore because you got to
Speaker 2: go and get it and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: you hit the jackpot with everything that you're doing, super
Speaker 2: Bowl championships, you know, herd in your life and what
Speaker 2: have you. It's the equivalent of waking up in silk
Speaker 2: a jump? Is it trying to go in that box
Speaker 2: and ring and get it done? Where would you describe
Speaker 2: your mentality to be at this particular moment in time
Speaker 2: knowing how well everything is going for you or both
Speaker 2: personally and professionally.
Speaker 3: Well, I think personally, you know, that's the beauty of
Speaker 3: being in a very strong relationship, is that you get
Speaker 3: that support to be able to come in and focus
Speaker 3: on your craft, focus on being the best version of you.
Speaker 3: You know, that's why I wanted to be at the concert,
Speaker 3: supporting her and being there for her, making sure she
Speaker 3: feels comfortable and supported and everything she's doing in life.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think I'm as focused as I've
Speaker 3: ever been on my job and being the best player
Speaker 3: that I could possibly be a weekend, week out for
Speaker 3: this team. And you know it's because I'm uh. I
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about things in off the field.
Speaker 2: There were people that looked at you at the beginning
Speaker 2: of the season and felt like you weren't in peak condition.
Speaker 2: And they didn't blame her, but they were saying, you
Speaker 2: be is so supportive.
Speaker 1: Of her in traveling so much that took away from you.
Speaker 1: How did you.
Speaker 2: Feel when you were hearing that kind of noise about
Speaker 2: yourself at that time?
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing is you have to be true
Speaker 3: to yourself. You know, people are saying things. You got
Speaker 3: to be able to reflect and look at yourself and see,
Speaker 3: you know, why are they saying these things? And I
Speaker 3: was still playing high I was still playing at a
Speaker 3: high level, you know, knowing all that had been said,
Speaker 3: we were winning football games, which is all I ever
Speaker 3: cared about. And on top of that, this building knew
Speaker 3: how hard I worked and how much focus I have
Speaker 3: on football throughout the year. So it's just what's true,
Speaker 3: what's real? And how do we become better knowing that,
Speaker 3: you know, what I'm putting out on the field may
Speaker 3: not have been my best, or how do I keep
Speaker 3: getting better throughout knowing that the roles have changed a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 2: What kind of conversations did you have with your brother
Speaker 2: Jason about such subjects. This is a guy that's a
Speaker 2: champion obviously playing in the NFL for as long as
Speaker 2: he did. Damn it, I don't even remember him missing
Speaker 2: a game in thirteen years for crying out loud. And
Speaker 2: by the way, I love your brother on ESPN.
Speaker 1: He's a welcome teammate. He's a really good he's a
Speaker 1: really good guy.
Speaker 2: I love talking to him whenever I get the opportunity
Speaker 2: to do so. But what kind of conversations were you
Speaker 2: having with him about how you were looking or how
Speaker 2: you were feeling at that particular moment in time, and
Speaker 2: how you were feeling about ultimately continuing your playing career.
Speaker 3: You know, I've been so fortunate to have Jason always
Speaker 3: two steps ahead of me. It's two years older than me.
Speaker 3: We followed each other to Cincinnati University of Cincinnati. We
Speaker 3: followed each other to be under a coach Andy Reider,
Speaker 3: get drafted by coach Reid. And I've seen how it's
Speaker 3: done the right way, you know, both from on the
Speaker 3: field and off the field. I think my brother is
Speaker 3: a great model of success, you know, in the city
Speaker 3: of Philadelphia, just as much as he is at the
Speaker 3: Link And and I love him for it. And I
Speaker 3: don't necessarily even have to have a lot of questions
Speaker 3: for him, but just have a talk about life with
Speaker 3: him and and I can get a lot out of that.
Speaker 3: Out of that, I think my brother, My brother's biggest
Speaker 3: thing is you know, when you come into the building,
Speaker 3: do you still feel you know, the energy, do you
Speaker 3: still feel the excitement and uh and do you still
Speaker 3: feel like you can do it at a high level
Speaker 3: weekend week out, knowing the seasons are only getting longer
Speaker 3: with the man in the seventeenth game and another playoff
Speaker 3: seed or another playoff team into the playoffs. So it's
Speaker 3: just hearing him talk about how the end of his
Speaker 3: career came about and how he how tough of a
Speaker 3: decision it was for him. I can get all all
Speaker 3: the you know, I can get set in the right
Speaker 3: direction by just being an here.
Speaker 1: I tell you this much.
Speaker 2: Man, I wish he had a retired because I think
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles would even be better off if he
Speaker 2: was still there. And then we learned after he departed
Speaker 2: that that was one of the reasons Jalen Hurts was
Speaker 2: struggling because he was deferring the Jason and you know,
Speaker 2: with a lot of stuff that was going on, I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: damn it.
Speaker 1: How come you didn't beg him to stay?
Speaker 2: You should have begged them to stay in an additional year
Speaker 2: or two. That's where I'm going with that. But I
Speaker 2: tell you this too is as well. When I think
Speaker 2: about your brother and your New Heights podcast, I want
Speaker 2: you to talk about how that came about, how that unfold.
Speaker 2: You guys got what a two point five million subscribers
Speaker 2: for crying a line and deserve it, by the way,
Speaker 2: congratula it's one that I got.
Speaker 3: It's one that.
Speaker 2: I got for the moment, dammit, all right, and you
Speaker 2: deserve a moment just for them. You know I'm coming,
Speaker 2: you know I've always coming. But but here's the deal.
Speaker 2: How did that come about? And how do you feel
Speaker 2: about you two doing that? And what kind of impact
Speaker 2: y'all are having, not just in football but beyond.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I think that's been the goal
Speaker 3: for a lot of football players in this league, is
Speaker 3: to set yourself up because we know this this game,
Speaker 3: it isn't forever, and you got to be able to
Speaker 3: set yourself for what happens after football. And me and Jason,
Speaker 3: we uh to be honest, we just we missed each other.
Speaker 3: We hadn't had those conversations every single week, and now
Speaker 3: we have two hours set aside every single week to
Speaker 3: talk football, catch up on things, and just be brothers.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, you got that aspect of wanting
Speaker 3: to set yourself after set yourself up after football, and
Speaker 3: then everybody always said before New Heights, me and Jason
Speaker 3: worked on two completely different sides of the spectrum. You know,
Speaker 3: he's a he still wears flip flops in the snow
Speaker 3: and I like to, you know, bundle up and and
Speaker 3: and and look fresh and uh, you know, have fun
Speaker 3: with the things that I wear, where Jason is just
Speaker 3: about a Neanderthal in that world. Uh. And they did.
Speaker 3: They just never saw the similarities until you get us
Speaker 3: into the same room and hear us talk at like
Speaker 3: a lunch table or a dinner table. You don't really
Speaker 3: realize how close we are brothers. Knowing that we're only
Speaker 3: two years of pardon, I've been following him throughout my
Speaker 3: entire life, man, So I wanted to show showcase that
Speaker 3: and let people know, you know, how strong of a
Speaker 3: bond and how much we support each other and what
Speaker 3: a true brotherhood looks like.
Speaker 2: Well, now that you've done that, what do you too,
Speaker 2: like talking about most outside of football. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: outside of football on the podcast. The kind of information
Speaker 2: or the kind of subject matter you want to disseminate
Speaker 2: to the public. What do you enjoy tackling most?
Speaker 3: You know what the most fun I have is, uh
Speaker 3: is talking about my childhood, my love for sports, and
Speaker 3: what really sparked me to get into the profession that
Speaker 3: I am that I have today. And I think having
Speaker 3: ex players come on and having the stars of my
Speaker 3: childhood and and and Jason's childhood come on and talk
Speaker 3: about what made them great and just the stories of
Speaker 3: you know, what they went through. I think that's the
Speaker 3: funnest part is being able to just talk to Jason
Speaker 3: about our childhood and tell the fun stories about being
Speaker 3: in the Kelsey household as well as, you know, the
Speaker 3: things that we love to do as kids and now
Speaker 3: as adults.
Speaker 2: Are you prepared and as Jason prepared for the fact
Speaker 2: that as y'all continue to grow and shine, because the
Speaker 2: podcast is not going away as your audience grows, I
Speaker 2: know you're going to want to continue to do it.
Speaker 2: With that being said, you're going to have to find
Speaker 2: yourself being a bit critical of folks out there when
Speaker 2: they ain't getting the job done, when they mess up,
Speaker 2: and you as a three time super Bowl champion, him
Speaker 2: as a champion when you think about what y'all are
Speaker 2: bringing to the table in that regard, are y'all prepared
Speaker 2: to have to deal with all of that?
Speaker 3: And you know what, I think that's what makes guys
Speaker 3: like yourself so good is the ability to be true.
Speaker 3: And I think You've always been true to me in
Speaker 3: my career. You've called me out on numerous times, and
Speaker 3: I've always accepted that, and I've always, you know, reevaluated
Speaker 3: what I've been doing because you do. You always keep
Speaker 3: it real and you always keep it honest, and that's
Speaker 3: why I love listening to you, big dog. But I
Speaker 3: think I think that is a talent in itself. I
Speaker 3: me personally, I like to shine light on everybody and everything.
Speaker 3: I don't really like to take too many shots of
Speaker 3: people unless I've been truly disrespected. So it is, it is.
Speaker 3: It has been a bit of a challenge being able
Speaker 3: to call things out and be confident and try and
Speaker 3: be critical without chopping somebody down. But it's definitely something
Speaker 3: that that I'm working on, for sure.
Speaker 2: I try, I try to make sure I don't get
Speaker 2: personal and that a guy knows that when I'm being
Speaker 2: critical of you, I'm not rooting against you.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you ain't doing what.
Speaker 2: You're supposed to be doing your ability to do that.
Speaker 1: You get that. I get that, Jason gets that.
Speaker 2: But you know as well as I do, not just
Speaker 2: in the NFL, but in professional sports, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of cats that don't get it and don't embrace it
Speaker 2: that way.
Speaker 1: How do you deal with that?
Speaker 3: Well, what's real and what's not real? I was talking
Speaker 3: about it earlier, about watching film and seeing you know
Speaker 3: how the success I've had in the past is compared
Speaker 3: to the success having now. And I think it's the
Speaker 3: same in the media. You know somebody is saying something.
Speaker 3: What's warranting them for saying that? Why? What's the reasoning
Speaker 3: for it? You have to be confident in your abilities,
Speaker 3: but also confident to to keep trying to find ways
Speaker 3: to better yourself, better your team and uh, and you
Speaker 3: always got to separate reality from from what's not real.
Speaker 3: And what's real for me is the building I walk into,
Speaker 3: the faces that I go to work with, and uh,
Speaker 3: then the people that I love at home and you know,
Speaker 3: that's what That's what you really gotta know, differentiate and
Speaker 3: be comfortable in your own skin. Man, you can't get yeah.
Speaker 2: Appropriate question to ask With that Lombardy trophy hanging above your.
Speaker 3: Head right there, y'all shine to it.
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go.
Speaker 2: That ain't your office, though, I mean, is that's your
Speaker 2: I got brad Z's I got you so. So here
Speaker 2: you are on the verge of possibly being the first
Speaker 2: team in NFL history to three P as super Old champions.
Speaker 2: It's one thing to compartmentalize and say, we just hear
Speaker 2: we going for the chip. Obviously y'all said it on
Speaker 2: stage after y'all beat San Francisco in the Super Bowl
Speaker 2: last year. We going for a three P first team
Speaker 2: in order to pull it off.
Speaker 1: What would that mean to y'all?
Speaker 3: Man? You know, I've always been trying to chase greatness
Speaker 3: my entire life. I've been so fortunate to be able
Speaker 3: to come here to Kansas City and have to fill
Speaker 3: the shoes of a guy like Tony Gonzalez. And then,
Speaker 3: you know, when when you start to have your own success,
Speaker 3: you start to really feel the urge to keep to
Speaker 3: keep being greater than what you've been in the past,
Speaker 3: and no team has ever done it three times in
Speaker 3: a row, man. And I don't know why, but last
Speaker 3: year I felt like I wanted it more than I
Speaker 3: had in previous years because it was the upper echelon
Speaker 3: of teams that had gone back to back. You know,
Speaker 3: they were considered dynasty teams. They were considered teams that
Speaker 3: you know, took over an entire decade of football and
Speaker 3: remember for ever, and those teams being able to get
Speaker 3: it done a third time all fell short. And I
Speaker 3: see that as an opportunity to be the greatest dynasty
Speaker 3: or the greatest you know, team of the decade, however
Speaker 3: you want to call it. But I just have it
Speaker 3: in me to really want that for the guys that
Speaker 3: I've gone to war with in this building and have
Speaker 3: seen work so hard to be able to get it
Speaker 3: to this point.
Speaker 2: Man, Travis, let me throw this out at you, Bro,
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey all time NFL rank as a tight end.
Speaker 2: Receptions third behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten, receiving yards
Speaker 2: third behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten, touchdown catches fifth
Speaker 2: all time.
Speaker 1: If you three, pat, is it possible that in a
Speaker 1: month's time. Travis Kelsey says, I did it.
Speaker 2: We three ped it. Look at my numbers. I'm done.
Speaker 2: My football career is over.
Speaker 3: Man. You know I think I think I'm so deep
Speaker 3: in chasing this one right now. I can't even fathom
Speaker 3: what football would be like, uh not in like not
Speaker 3: playing football as a profession. Man, I still love coming
Speaker 3: into the building every single day. Does it get hard, Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I'm not. I'm not doing it for the stats.
Speaker 3: I'm doing it for the greatness the legacy that we've
Speaker 3: created here in Kansas City with with Pat, with Chris Jones,
Speaker 3: with Coach Reed, coach Bags, you name all the guys
Speaker 3: in the building. Man, it's been it's been so much
Speaker 3: fun coming into building with these guys. So I can't
Speaker 3: fathom what it would feel like just being able to
Speaker 3: say I'm I'm satisfied, because I'm still hungry to go
Speaker 3: and get something right now.
Speaker 2: You know, I remember when Time Brady was winning Super Bowls.
Speaker 2: He had a supermodel for a wife that wanted him
Speaker 2: to retire.
Speaker 1: Is miss Swift? Is she encouraging you to continue to
Speaker 1: play or to resis because it is a violent sport?
Speaker 3: And oh yeah, she's fully encouraging me to enjoy playing
Speaker 3: this game. And she loves coming to Arrowhead and coming
Speaker 3: to the games and cheering for me. So I got
Speaker 3: all the support in the world to keep chasing these dreams.
Speaker 1: Andy Reid the best coach ever.
Speaker 3: The greatest to ever do it weekend week out. The
Speaker 3: wins are there, the Super Bowls are there. He's gone
Speaker 3: every everywhere he's gone, he's won, and and he's done
Speaker 3: it in a in a way that's that's so much
Speaker 3: respected by everybody that plays for him.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you noticed. Andy Reid, and I
Speaker 2: go back to my Philadelphia days.
Speaker 1: I love that. Oh yeah, I love that.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to him soon. But Andy Reid, what
Speaker 1: makes him special? I know he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 2: As a football coach, but I'm talking about it from
Speaker 2: a personality standpoint. For him to be his age, to
Speaker 2: be around as long as he is, and to be
Speaker 2: so relatable to the modern day player while still having
Speaker 2: structured discipline.
Speaker 1: Every coach can't pull that off. How does he do it?
Speaker 3: Well? He's tough, and he shows his toughness every single day.
Speaker 3: He shows his desire to be at his best every
Speaker 3: single day. I'd laugh about it all the time. I
Speaker 3: never see his truck leave this parking lot. Man, this
Speaker 3: guy loves, loves being accountable and loves coming in and
Speaker 3: being his best for this organization in this city. And
Speaker 3: I just I think it's a it's a unique blend
Speaker 3: of being able to be relatable to everybody, no matter
Speaker 3: how old he gets and how young these players are
Speaker 3: getting in the league. He always has the ability to
Speaker 3: relate to guys. And that's big in the football world
Speaker 3: because these days, these days get long, and you know,
Speaker 3: it's just it gets difficult coming in and doing the
Speaker 3: same routines for twenty weeks out of the year. So
Speaker 3: being able to relate to everybody, being able to have
Speaker 3: that toughness to respect out of everybody, and on top
Speaker 3: of that being true, he's always real. He'll tell He'll
Speaker 3: tell you when you're slacking, no matter if you're a
Speaker 3: time Pro bowler or the rookie on the team, He'll
Speaker 3: tell you when you're slacking and when you need to
Speaker 3: pick it up. And honestly, because you relate to him
Speaker 3: so well and he has so much toughness, it typically
Speaker 3: just turns into a challenge for you to get better,
Speaker 3: and I think he does that better than anybody in
Speaker 3: the league, on top of just being able to be
Speaker 3: creative and have fun, you know, making up these plays
Speaker 3: in the building and always putting his players in the
Speaker 3: best place to the best situations to have success on
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 1: Too quick last questions before I let you go.
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes three super Bowl titles in five years. If
Speaker 2: y'all had an offensive line, it would have been four.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, he is what
Speaker 2: it comes down to. A lot of people look at
Speaker 2: him and they say he's the best ever ever. Others
Speaker 2: look at at Joe Montana four rings, Others look at
Speaker 2: a Pat of Tom Brady seven rings. The three peat
Speaker 2: will cement it, okay, But without the three p you
Speaker 2: look at Patrick Mahomes right now, based on the guys
Speaker 2: that I mentioned, he's the best on the planet.
Speaker 3: To you ever ever do it? The best ever do it?
Speaker 3: And and and to be honest, I think, you know,
Speaker 3: obviously I'm a little biased. I think I've been on
Speaker 3: the receiving end of a lot of Pat Mahomes throws
Speaker 3: that have just blown my mind that he could even
Speaker 3: make these throws sometimes. But his ability, his natural ability
Speaker 3: to make plays, him make plays, break break tackles, throw
Speaker 3: the ball across the field. It's it's he's done it
Speaker 3: in a way that no quarterback has ever played this game.
Speaker 3: And uh, and he's won at a very very high level.
Speaker 3: H you know, with with the world count them out
Speaker 3: a few times, and and I think that, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: his ability to lead, just like Coach Reid, and his
Speaker 3: ability to come in and motivate guys and make guys
Speaker 3: better on this team is second to none, man. And
Speaker 3: I just I see it every single day, just like
Speaker 3: I see it with Coach Reid, his attention to detail,
Speaker 3: how fast he thinks, how fast he can get the
Speaker 3: ball out, his ability to make every throw. And then
Speaker 3: on top of that, you got the wins and the
Speaker 3: suit proposed to do it.
Speaker 2: Is there somebody that you think is the toughest competition
Speaker 2: waiting for you?
Speaker 1: Or does it matter?
Speaker 3: I said this on on New Heights. Man, I want
Speaker 3: to play the best man, whoever that is, whoever were presented.
Speaker 3: I want them to be at their best, and I
Speaker 3: want it to be you know, a challenge that's uh,
Speaker 3: that's worth fighting for. Man. I just love I love
Speaker 3: this time of the year. I think it's it's my
Speaker 3: favorite time of the year. I've been hoping I can
Speaker 3: press fast forward just to get to this point. But
Speaker 3: know that the NFL doesn't work like that. But whoever,
Speaker 3: we we get an arrowhead. I'm fired up and I'm
Speaker 3: ready to compete and just give them, give them our best.
Speaker 2: My very last question, is it all right for us
Speaker 2: to call you a swifty?
Speaker 3: Is that all? I'm the number one swift, number.
Speaker 2: One, right, number one, even more than Mama, even more
Speaker 2: to Mama.
Speaker 3: Sees you already know. I'm right there. We're neck and neck,
Speaker 3: we're right there, we're tired at the top.
Speaker 1: Nothing but love for you, my brother, is so good
Speaker 1: to see you.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: You know I'm gonna catch you down the road. I'll
Speaker 1: be at the super bow. I'll try to get the
Speaker 1: arrow here before.
Speaker 2: I can't make any promises what it's cold, whether it's cold,
Speaker 2: I can't make any promises. But I miss you, my man.
Speaker 2: And and yes I'm coming on New Heights. When you call, man,
Speaker 2: I'll beat there.
Speaker 3: You're the best to ever do it, Steven love you
Speaker 3: appreciate your having men.
Speaker 1: Thanks a lot, my man.
Speaker 3: All right now,