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Speaker 1: tough part of the show. Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about some of the overnight developments there.
Speaker 3: The big top line news is President Donald Trump mobilizing
Speaker 3: several hundred United States Marines active duty service members, sending
Speaker 3: him to Los Angeles for some sort of law enforcement
Speaker 3: support mission. Still a lot of questions surrounding that. We're
Speaker 3: going to show you some of the video and other things.
Speaker 3: Clashes breaking out between lapd between protesters, last night there
Speaker 3: was some looting as well, so we'll show everybody some
Speaker 3: of the images. We're going to talk about a little
Speaker 3: bit polling. I teased that yesterday there's been some CBS
Speaker 3: News widespread polling about Donald Trump and immigration. This is
Speaker 3: a big segment of our discussion yesterday with Crystal over
Speaker 3: the popularity of Trump's program and also just broadly why
Speaker 3: a lot of this fight is being picked. Right now,
Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about Palantineer. This is a story that
Speaker 3: I missed, but Ryan, you're really going to be driving
Speaker 3: this one. This is Laura Lumer is getting involved. Tim
Speaker 3: Dillon is alleging that there's widespread buying off of influencers
Speaker 3: regarding Palenteer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he really is the George carl I think he's
Speaker 1: the George Carlin of our generation.
Speaker 3: I said that yesterday China, We're going to give everybody,
Speaker 3: and I know this is flying under the radar, but
Speaker 3: it's tremendously important. United States and China negotiators met in
Speaker 3: London yesterday just for the second round of trade talks.
Speaker 3: Everybody's basically on pins and needles on what the hell
Speaker 3: is going to happen here? The tariffs were off while
Speaker 3: I was gone. Thank you, President Trump for removing the
Speaker 3: crisis that you caused.
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Speaker 3: all that did not go down even though the tariffs
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Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of car seats are made in China.
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Speaker 3: And also you know another thing I learned recently is
Speaker 3: you know, these car seats don't even last that long.
Speaker 1: You can't donate them, right, like because and it's like
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Speaker 3: I think this is too safetiest, but like, you can't
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Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm gonna have parenting Twitter and all those
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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I just I think
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Speaker 3: Okay, good, I'm glad they do all right. The only
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Speaker 1: But that's a whole other story.
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Speaker 3: Yesterday we had our Gaza Flotilla guest, and of course
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Speaker 3: the d n C. I'm really excited for Ryan to
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Speaker 3: is just I mean, I know it's fun to dunk
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Speaker 3: Los Angeles from President Trump. You know. It's actually a
Speaker 3: little bit crazy because literally moments before that announcement was made,
Speaker 3: Trump had actually given a statement where he had I
Speaker 3: wouldn't say it ruled out per se of sending in
Speaker 3: the Marines, but he's like, I think that we have
Speaker 3: it more under control. I have a few more details
Speaker 3: that I can say. So it's a little complicated the
Speaker 3: way this is being done. Trump has not invoked the
Speaker 3: Insurrection Act, So this is from US Northern Command. They
Speaker 3: say they have quote activated the Marine Infantry Battalion that
Speaker 3: was placed in an alert status over the weekend. Seven
Speaker 3: hundred Marines with second Battalion, seventh Marines' first Marine Division
Speaker 3: will seamlessly integrate with the title ten forces under Task
Speaker 3: Force fifty one who are protecting federal personnel and property
Speaker 3: in the Greater Los Angeles area. The activation of the
Speaker 3: Marines is intended to provide Task Force fifty one with
Speaker 3: the adequate numbers of forces to provide continuous coverage of
Speaker 3: the area in support of the lead federal agency.
Speaker 1: Task Force fifty.
Speaker 3: One provides a rapidly deployable capability to partner with civil
Speaker 3: authorities and deity entities in response to homeland defense and
Speaker 3: homeland security operations. So effectively, what they are saying is
Speaker 3: that these seven hundred active duty Marines are being placed
Speaker 3: under the same Task Force fifty one, which is basically
Speaker 3: now comprised of the twenty one hundred National Guardsmen that
Speaker 3: were mobilized by Trump previously, as well as these seven
Speaker 3: hundred Marines, basically to supplement that mission. It does not
Speaker 3: appear from what I can see in front of me
Speaker 3: is that they will be quote, they have been trained
Speaker 3: in de escalation, crowd control, and standing rules for the
Speaker 3: use of force that are similar under the National Guardsmen. Effectively,
Speaker 3: it's like using active duty soldiers as National guardsmen here
Speaker 3: in the fourth I'm not trying to downplay it. I'm
Speaker 3: just genuinely confused because this is such an extraordinary situation.
Speaker 3: I mean, I actually cannot think really of the last
Speaker 3: time that active duty US military members were actually deployed,
Speaker 3: you know, without the consent and actually without the not
Speaker 3: only the consent, but like the invitation right of the
Speaker 3: governor of a state that was already pretty extraordinary. Not
Speaker 3: happened since nineteen sixty five under LBJ, And so this
Speaker 3: time around, I mean, it is difficult to contextualize. The
Speaker 3: Marines have not yet arrived, we don't really know what
Speaker 3: they're doing. But the image nonetheless is going to be
Speaker 3: I mean shocking. It's a shocking development here from Donald
Speaker 3: especially considering I mean, we will show people video from
Speaker 3: last night, but I mean, but from by all accounts,
Speaker 3: it does not appear to have been worse than the
Speaker 3: previous two days of some of the rioting of protesting
Speaker 3: that was happening in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: It's less yeah, yeah, and maybe they're like planning their
Speaker 4: amphibious landing on Venice Beach or whatever wind up in
Speaker 4: downtown Los Angeles. Let's start with a four before we
Speaker 4: get into some of the other images.
Speaker 1: A four.
Speaker 4: This is Gavin Newsom saying that he's going to sue
Speaker 4: the federal government.
Speaker 1: That's for you know what.
Speaker 4: On the one hand, you could dismiss as you know,
Speaker 4: procedural or paperwork arguments. On the other hand, you could
Speaker 4: say that this is you know, goes to the fundamental
Speaker 4: nature of power sharing between the states and the federal government.
Speaker 4: He calls it quote an unprecedented power graph. He argues
Speaker 4: multiple things. One, he says the getting the National Guard
Speaker 4: deployed was invalid because there is no insurrection, there is
Speaker 4: no rebellion. It's just it's just a protest, and that
Speaker 4: no kind of it's not the kind of protest that
Speaker 4: the cops haven't been able to handle over many decades
Speaker 4: and over the history of the United States. And he
Speaker 4: also says that the law requires that you work with
Speaker 4: the governor and that the governor be the one that
Speaker 4: deploys the National Guard, and that's not just paperwork, because
Speaker 4: what it does is it requires the buy in of
Speaker 4: both entities. It keeps everyone together. If the government written
Speaker 4: large is defined by its monopolization of the use of force.
Speaker 4: If you now have a upily where you know, you've
Speaker 4: got National Guard, you've got some members over here who
Speaker 4: are responsible to this state actor, and then you've got
Speaker 4: another state actor that also has men and women under arms,
Speaker 4: and you're sending them into the same streets. You know,
Speaker 4: that's that's not how this is envisioned to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, as you said, with some of
Speaker 3: the images, let's go ahead and put some of these
Speaker 3: up there on the screen. I'll just kind of narrate
Speaker 3: kind of what we see here. This is just some
Speaker 3: collated footage that we see. I want everybody to keep
Speaker 3: in mind that everything you're seeing here is LAPD, who
Speaker 3: as I said yesterday, I mean, look, I think one
Speaker 3: of the distinguishing characteristics between this and BLM is that
Speaker 3: I said previously, I don't think that democratic leaders are
Speaker 3: like really justifying a lot of this going on right now.
Speaker 3: In fact, you know, LAPD, as you can all see,
Speaker 3: is like pretty ready to rock and roll from what
Speaker 3: we see right now. I mean, the justification appears to
Speaker 3: be that this would free up LAPD resources. But you
Speaker 3: can see here right now, you know, this was after
Speaker 3: I believe that there was like a declared online assembly yesterday.
Speaker 3: People are not heating Crystal's warning and they do continue
Speaker 3: to wave Mexican flags there in the streets of Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Here we had some we had some looting and several
Speaker 3: retail establishments. Of course, people very very upset at over
Speaker 3: immigration detention, just like they were over George Floyd, which
Speaker 3: is why Apple stores and Adidas rep places.
Speaker 1: Have to be looted.
Speaker 3: But as you can see, you know, in front of you,
Speaker 3: there are several arrests and other things that have taken
Speaker 3: place that does look like police it is. This is
Speaker 3: another thing that's just so difficult to distinguish when the
Speaker 3: police start to gear up in military camo. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is something that goes all the way back to
Speaker 3: Ferguson with the militarization of a lot of American police forces.
Speaker 3: Like when you literally can't even tell and you have
Speaker 3: to look the shield as to what it is, we shouldn't,
Speaker 3: you know, overplay it either. There were a lot of
Speaker 3: peaceful protests that happened in the streets of Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: As you can see in front of you. There were
Speaker 3: marches that happened in some of the streets as well
Speaker 3: as across the United States and several different pockets around
Speaker 3: that was happening. This is getting quite a bit of attention.
Speaker 3: These were some images that were tweeted out by Governor
Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom of National guardsmen who were sleeping on the floor.
Speaker 3: This was Governor Newsom's critique here saying that Trump basically,
Speaker 3: you know, sent the National Guard in without proper planning
Speaker 3: and without proper planning or resources. It is funny, because
Speaker 3: I'm not funny for the people to the floor, that's terrible.
Speaker 3: But actually I do remember that this was a similar
Speaker 3: controversy here in Washington after the January sixth riots. If
Speaker 3: you'll remember, we were living in the Green Zone Ryan
Speaker 3: after January six here in Washington, and I distinctly remember
Speaker 3: walking by parking garages and just seeing like a thousand
Speaker 3: guys sleeping on the floor in January in a park,
Speaker 3: cold concrete in January. You know, they were definitely here
Speaker 3: for what exactly, So because of a qwanon Ryot, I
Speaker 3: feel kind of similarly about this. I mean, there's no
Speaker 3: real reason at least in my opinion, outside of optics.
Speaker 3: But we will get to the polling for a lot
Speaker 3: of this. But I mean, I think it fits with
Speaker 3: a lot of the Trump administrations straps, inviting fights over
Speaker 3: you know, basically extraordinary uses of power, and in this
Speaker 3: particular case, trying to pick a fight where he does
Speaker 3: believe he feels strongest politically. And part of the reason
Speaker 3: for that is we talked a lot about this yesterday.
Speaker 3: I'm curious what you think is that. I think it's
Speaker 3: really important to contextualize what's happening in Los Angeles. But
Speaker 3: it's also important to contextualize that probably ninety percent of
Speaker 3: the country has never been to Los Angeles, maybe even
Speaker 3: ninety five percent of the country. So when you are
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh or Detroit, or Georgia or Charlotte, North Carolina,
Speaker 3: any of these places, you don't know anything about LA.
Speaker 3: All you're watching is the video about what's happening over there.
Speaker 3: And with images like this, regardless when you're watching CNN,
Speaker 3: Fox or anything, you're going to be seeing the Mexican flag,
Speaker 3: you're going to be seeing some of the or if
Speaker 3: you're on social media, you're going to be seeing some
Speaker 3: of the looting. You may even be seeing some of
Speaker 3: the peaceful protesting and all of that as well, but
Speaker 3: you are going to get the impression that things are
Speaker 3: really hot and on fire in the city, and that
Speaker 3: means that drawing attention to that and then the conflagration
Speaker 3: surrounding it at an level is really one that Donald
Speaker 3: Trump is inviting.
Speaker 4: And there's a bunch of discussion kind of in the
Speaker 4: center left around the question of how smart are the
Speaker 4: protests for Democrats or how smart are the protests for
Speaker 4: opposition to Trump, which ignores the fact that doesn't matter
Speaker 4: what anybody thinks, like this is not a centralized, like
Speaker 4: Soros planned thing.
Speaker 3: Well you should speak on that, because there is actually
Speaker 3: a lot of right wingers who do believe that this
Speaker 3: is like massively or by the way, I've always found
Speaker 3: that incredibly stupid, Like there's this theory in the right
Speaker 3: that every left wing protest is like organized and supported
Speaker 3: by NGO. Now, I won't deny that these people don't
Speaker 3: have email lists or whatever bust people in or any
Speaker 3: of that, but I mean, I was living here in
Speaker 3: the city during BLM. I can pretty much just guarantee
Speaker 3: you that it wasn't because of organization. I mean I
Speaker 3: think it was like again, literally people being at home,
Speaker 3: mass psychosis, just believing in this cause. Whatever I find,
Speaker 3: we've litigated that to that. My point though, is that
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody for us, my white liberal neighbors,
Speaker 3: to all go out into the streets. Oh exactly, for Bilam,
Speaker 3: they went because they were upset. I think people are
Speaker 3: upset here too. I think it's fine. You know, we
Speaker 3: live in democracy, it's right.
Speaker 4: And the different groups that get tagged as being central
Speaker 4: to these these protests happening had the same budget ten
Speaker 4: years ago, two years ago, you know, six months ago.
Speaker 4: Yet they didn't weren't able to get people out on
Speaker 4: the streets because right, sure you can get and you know,
Speaker 4: when it's like an NGO protest, everyone there is wearing
Speaker 4: the same T shirts. There's like forty five people, they
Speaker 4: all know each other, they're on the clock. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 4: so those are literal paid protesters, but nobody has the
Speaker 4: money to go beyond like a couple dozen of those
Speaker 4: kinds of people. You need an actual spark, and you
Speaker 4: need gasoline, and then you get people out onto the
Speaker 4: streets and what the Trump administration has been doing was
Speaker 4: effectively guaranteed to create this reaction and arguably designed to
Speaker 4: create this reaction because they love it, Like they absolutely
Speaker 4: adore these images that they're getting. Let's let's Trump do
Speaker 4: the thing he's really wanted to do. Send in the Marines.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there is real like on the right in particular,
Speaker 3: there's still a lot of anger about the way that
Speaker 3: the BLM protests we're.
Speaker 1: Going to restorel well, I mean, you can smash it.
Speaker 1: It's bi directional.
Speaker 3: Nobody's forcing people to loot Adidas in Apple stores, Okay,
Speaker 3: and every person who does. You know, all right, you
Speaker 3: know it's not twenty twenty anymore. You don't have CNN
Speaker 3: panels talking about riot is the voice of the unheard.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you're kind of an idiot and you're going
Speaker 1: to jail.
Speaker 3: But I will say, you know, on that front, that's
Speaker 3: this whole like tone policing around protesters.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I still think it's important.
Speaker 3: Actually, I think it's important for opinion leaders and others
Speaker 3: to learn lessons politically and for people to recognize, like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is really bad. Like well, I mean, on January
Speaker 3: sixth and all that there was at least what a.
Speaker 1: Two year or three year period were really like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like that didn't turn out so well for us.
Speaker 3: It ended up being fine, I guess in the end,
Speaker 3: and people largely forgot about it. But I mean, I
Speaker 3: don't think we could deny that. In twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3: If you remember a lot of the more like Jen
Speaker 3: six adjacent Republicans who ran, they all lost, right, I mean,
Speaker 3: Doug Mastriano, David Purdue, remember a day against Raffensburger.
Speaker 1: We had Brian Kemp survive.
Speaker 3: Like it was important actually in its time to not
Speaker 3: necessarily carry Lake, you know, to be a peer as
Speaker 3: one of these people who saved degress extreme. It gave
Speaker 3: Democrats the United States Senate. And that's arguably the reason
Speaker 3: that what we have, like the inflation reductionists so many
Speaker 3: ten pulp, whether you like them or not, that is
Speaker 3: actually did have an impact.
Speaker 1: Sure it didn't end up having in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I do think like that level of people
Speaker 3: advising them to be smarter or whatever, I don't think
Speaker 3: it's a bad idea because sure maybe some Mexican flag
Speaker 3: waivers are always going to do it. But it does
Speaker 3: matter to have like a top down kind of commentariat
Speaker 3: telling people and be like this is not good, Like
Speaker 3: you are inviting your own destruction to a certain extent,
Speaker 3: and I think people like you and Crystal I have
Speaker 3: spoken up against that destruction and you're like, that's not
Speaker 3: what we want to see. So just don't give people
Speaker 3: what they want, which is generally a good ruin politics.
Speaker 4: By the way, it's it's interesting though that the security
Speaker 4: forces never get tone policed, like you never hear it,
Speaker 4: not even even on Fox.
Speaker 1: I only not on Newsmax.
Speaker 4: Hey buddy, maybe you shouldn't on camera aim your weapon
Speaker 4: at an Australian reporter and pull the trigger.
Speaker 3: I did see poor people criticize that at least at
Speaker 3: least I don't know if it's I don't watch Newsmax Confession,
Speaker 3: but it may have been Fox.
Speaker 1: I actually have no idea.
Speaker 4: Or like plain clothes, Ice spoons should stop going around
Speaker 4: masked because there was just this case in Philadelphia where
Speaker 4: a guy went into like like a barber shop or something,
Speaker 4: and or beauty shop or something and was masked and
Speaker 4: dressed like a fake Ice agent. Because ICE agents are
Speaker 4: now putting on these bandanas refusing to identify themselves, you know,
Speaker 4: zip tying people and dragging them off the street. And
Speaker 4: so this guy went in and he's like Ice and
Speaker 4: he like zip tied this woman and then took like
Speaker 4: a thousand dollars because everyone's like, oh wait, we're not
Speaker 4: allowed to get in front of ICE or else we're
Speaker 4: going to get arrested too, and nobody toned.
Speaker 1: Police is the other side.
Speaker 4: But so the point is I think this is this
Speaker 4: is what Trump wants, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's
Speaker 4: good for Trump.
Speaker 1: As we're going to get into it, I really don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, one of the important things that I what
Speaker 3: I tried to highlight yesterday is like one of the
Speaker 3: reasons why I thought, at least yesterday we're doing this
Speaker 3: in real time. While I'm like, I think it isn't
Speaker 3: that positive for Trump? Is?
Speaker 1: I think, whoever this is.
Speaker 3: Just generally on these types of social issues, whoever seems
Speaker 3: crazier usually is the person who loses. And if you
Speaker 3: look at the last couple of months for the Trump
Speaker 3: administration on immigration, you had the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case, right,
Speaker 3: you had El Salvador Seacott.
Speaker 1: You did not largely have an elevator.
Speaker 3: Of stories for ic deportation raids or you know, gang
Speaker 3: criminals rape whatever, Like that's not what the main story was.
Speaker 3: But then you flip it and you're like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: now you have people waiting Mexican flax, burning waymos in
Speaker 3: the street. Now you know ad looting and all this.
Speaker 3: People think may think I'm obsessing about the looting. I'm
Speaker 3: trying to highlight for you what boomers are going to
Speaker 3: be seeing in Alabama. Like I'm trying to I want
Speaker 3: people to really know how like important these images are
Speaker 3: going to be against for anyone like marginally right wing aligned.
Speaker 3: This is spreading like wildfire across the entire Internet, and
Speaker 3: that is going to inform a lot of the way
Speaker 3: that they're going to think and behave for Republican politicians
Speaker 3: and support vice versa. By the way, if you're somebody
Speaker 3: on the left, I mean, I know there's massively viral
Speaker 3: of images. I think it's like Kirk Russell's son like
Speaker 3: speaking back to the cops, like you should be ashamed
Speaker 3: of yourself or whatever. I see it on Twitter it's
Speaker 3: guy fifty eight thousand retweets. So I mean, look, everybody's
Speaker 3: living in their own in from environment, and people should
Speaker 3: understand that. I still think we're probably in net positive territory.
Speaker 1: But there are a couple of things.
Speaker 3: The marine image is going to be a crazy one
Speaker 3: that I mean's just crazy.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: They have an active dute in the United States Czy
Speaker 3: Marina on the streets of Laston.
Speaker 1: That's nuts, all right. Like I believe one of the
Speaker 1: only times.
Speaker 3: In US history that active duty soldiers were mobilized for
Speaker 3: a domestic law enforcement situation was one hundred and first
Speaker 3: Airborne in nineteen fifty seven with President Eisenhower around that desegregation.
Speaker 3: Can I forget exactly, I mean, it's the governor who
Speaker 3: stood in.
Speaker 1: The schoolhouse store. I don't I don't remember.
Speaker 3: The name of it exactly, but I mean that's kind
Speaker 3: of what we're talking about in terms of its precedence.
Speaker 3: Another one here is this looming threat to arrest Gavin Newsome.
Speaker 3: So this is something Gavin floated yesterday. He was like,
Speaker 3: go ahead and arrest me. Donald Trump actually spoke on it,
Speaker 3: was asked about it yesterday, endorsed the idea.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen, Gavin.
Speaker 5: He's daring Tom Holman become an erecto should he do it.
Speaker 3: I would do it if.
Speaker 5: I was Tom.
Speaker 6: I think it's great Gavin, but I think everything he's done.
Speaker 1: A terrible job.
Speaker 6: Look, I like Gavin news and he's a nice guy,
Speaker 6: but he's grossly inconfidence. Everybody knows. All you have to
Speaker 6: do is look at the little railroad he's building. It's
Speaker 6: about a hundred times over budget. We're putting a flag
Speaker 6: fall over there under budget. I always do under a
Speaker 6: crime has he committed. I think his primarily primary crime
Speaker 6: is running for governor because he's done such a bad job.
Speaker 6: What he's done to that state is like what Biden
Speaker 6: did to this country, and that's pretty bad. It's the
Speaker 6: wrong philosophy.
Speaker 3: So that was Trump saying, basically endorsing the idea of
Speaker 3: arresting Newsome quote, I would do it if I were Tom.
Speaker 3: I think it's great. Tom Homan here, that's who he's
Speaker 3: referencing there. Actually did react to that, and so far
Speaker 3: has said that nothing news is done is the rest worthy.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and play at a five.
Speaker 7: Please didn't the reporter asked you, well, could he governor?
Speaker 7: Governor Newsom or or mayor basby arrested? I said, well, no,
Speaker 7: one's about Blahl. They crossed the line to wait a crime.
Speaker 7: Absolutely they can. So there was no discussion about wrestling Newsom,
Speaker 7: and it told you know what he's done.
Speaker 1: He failed. He failed that date.
Speaker 7: He waited two days of that city burning and people
Speaker 7: getting hurt off she was being assaulted before before he
Speaker 7: made any declaration of an awful on lawful assembly. He
Speaker 7: late to the game. President Trump isn't late to the game.
Speaker 7: Men and women advice are not late to the game.
Speaker 7: And men and women he's the men women the board
Speaker 7: joke made la safe for that day. But you're not
Speaker 7: hearing any of this. Oh, hear's a rhetoric about Ice
Speaker 7: being racist and Ice being Nazis and terrorists, and Governor
Speaker 7: Newsom feeds that.
Speaker 1: So that's what.
Speaker 3: And he gave another interview to CNN just yesterday saying
Speaker 3: that he's like he hasn't done anything yet, absolutely has
Speaker 3: not done anything yet to have a bad governor, I
Speaker 3: mean in a sense I actually want because you know,
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think he should be arrested.
Speaker 1: I think it would be pretty insane.
Speaker 3: It kind of would be the best thing that could
Speaker 3: happen to Gavin Newsom for his wife career. I was
Speaker 3: wondering I wanted to get your reaction as to that,
Speaker 3: because I mean, obviously Newsome initially dabbled in kind of
Speaker 3: his Steve Bannon podcast and he was like Charlie Kirk right,
Speaker 3: and he was he was kind of trying to enter
Speaker 3: the bro sphere.
Speaker 1: But I would say during this crisis, like.
Speaker 3: He kind of has, you know, stepped up as a
Speaker 3: resistance style figure and anything he does as oppositional as
Speaker 3: he can to the Trump administration, I do think he
Speaker 3: could be you know, something like this could be very
Speaker 3: beneficial to him and could change his kind of future
Speaker 3: orientation as a democratic leader.
Speaker 4: And he likes to walk a tightrope, and this is
Speaker 4: the tightrope that the kind of tightrope he likes to
Speaker 4: walk because he wants to be able to be out
Speaker 4: on the edge pushing back against the Trump administration's authoritarianism.
Speaker 4: But he doesn't want us seem like he's endorsing burning
Speaker 4: a a Waymo car or looting an Apple store. But
Speaker 4: he does want to endorse the right to peaceably assemble
Speaker 4: and protest. He does want to push back against you know,
Speaker 4: Trump's across the board. We're going to find everyone and
Speaker 4: deport them, including green card holders, while not endorsing you know,
Speaker 4: criminals who are staying here. So like, I think he
Speaker 4: kind of enjoys that effort to like balance all of
Speaker 4: those different things.
Speaker 3: And as long as he is the face of like
Speaker 3: this standing up against Trump and that's where you want me,
Speaker 3: that's exactly kind of where he wants to be. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is all in the political realm, I do think,
Speaker 3: which is I mean, it's pretty nuts, like marines are
Speaker 3: on their way to Los Angeles and it is It
Speaker 3: is curious too, because I mean, by Trump's own comments,
Speaker 3: he said, he's like, yeah, I think things are calming down.
Speaker 3: And look, I understand, you know, we just play videos
Speaker 3: of looting or whatever.
Speaker 1: I would also say in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: I hate to say, this is like not exactly the
Speaker 3: place where looting is particularly uncommon. I don't think it
Speaker 3: should be that way, but you know it's not something
Speaker 3: like LAPD is dealing with for the very first time.
Speaker 3: So this is what we see right now in terms
Speaker 3: of the situation there.
Speaker 1: I guess the big jump.
Speaker 3: That would have to take place next, which I know
Speaker 3: it sounds crazy about with the sending of active duty troops.
Speaker 3: The big one would be in evoking of the Insurrection
Speaker 3: Act because the troops are still being sent under this
Speaker 3: Title ten authority, and the Marines are still being actually
Speaker 3: placed in the same like unit as these National guardsmans,
Speaker 3: which means they're not out on the streets like conducting
Speaker 3: law enforcement behavior. I believe of like a National guardsman
Speaker 3: can't even make an arrest unless a cop is like, hey,
Speaker 3: you should you know, detain this person. It purely is
Speaker 3: like being able to deploy tear gas and defense or
Speaker 3: whatever of federal effectively creating a perimeter with shields around
Speaker 3: the federal property.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and some of the pro January sixth people on
Speaker 4: the right are so salty about getting accused of carrying
Speaker 4: out an insurrection that now they see they everything is
Speaker 4: an insurrection. Comically, see insurrections everywhere. It's like, guys, you
Speaker 4: sack the capital to try to interfere with the transfer
Speaker 4: of power, Like there's a reason people threw the I
Speaker 4: word in there. That's different than a protest over immigration
Speaker 4: or police violence that happens in the downtown.
Speaker 3: But they're like, well, you're trying to inhibit like a
Speaker 3: lawful activity of deportation is.
Speaker 4: The law right, But you're not trying to change the regime. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And an insurrection is trying to change the regime, which
Speaker 4: is what they were trying to do on January sixth,
Speaker 4: by their own not just admission, but proud like that.
Speaker 1: That's what they were standing up for. They're going to
Speaker 1: save the republic seventeen seventy six. Yeah, well that's a
Speaker 1: little bit of an IQ test.
Speaker 4: Also doing the whole seventeen Your whole motto is seventeen
Speaker 4: seventy six. And then you've been crying ever since that
Speaker 4: you got accused of an insurrection.
Speaker 3: Ran. If you are looking for intellectual consistency here, you
Speaker 3: are in the wrong place, my friend.
Speaker 1: Right when you just need to read some book, I'll
Speaker 1: see my way out.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Right. With the deportations and some of the polling, let's
Speaker 3: go ahead and move to some of this. There's some
Speaker 3: data that has been coming in on this. And by
Speaker 3: the way, it is not you know, it is not uniform.
Speaker 3: It is kind of all over the place, and this
Speaker 3: is part of the ride. The circumstances are around this matter.
Speaker 3: CNN's Harry Enton breaking some of this down. Let's take
Speaker 3: a lesson.
Speaker 8: Donald Trump, the president picking a fight on this and
Speaker 8: to an extent, you see Los Angeles Mayor Karen Vass
Speaker 8: a Democrat, and the California Governor Gavin.
Speaker 1: Newsom pushing back.
Speaker 8: So what a voters see in terms of their perceptions
Speaker 8: of Republicans the president or Democrats, say Gavin Newsom on
Speaker 8: this issue.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the American electorate believe that the Democrats don't have
Speaker 5: a clue on the issue of immigration. I mean, you
Speaker 5: could just take it here closer to trust more and immigration.
Speaker 1: Democrats versus Republicans. Got three different polls.
Speaker 5: For you across the board. They all tell the same story.
Speaker 5: Republicans lead on the issue of immigration. You see it here,
Speaker 5: CBS plus six, You see it here, CNN plus six,
Speaker 5: you see it here, IPSOS Bigger plus nineteen. No matter
Speaker 5: what poll you look at, no matter which way you
Speaker 5: cut it, the American public is with the Republicans. The
Speaker 5: American public is with Donald Trump, and to a much
Speaker 5: greater extent than they were in term number one. And
Speaker 5: it's not just on the broad issue of immigration. It's
Speaker 5: on the specifics as well in which the American public
Speaker 5: is with Donald Trump and the Republicans. And that is
Speaker 5: why Donald Trump is eager to take on this fight
Speaker 5: and eager for those scenes.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what we were saying, you know, yesterday, and
Speaker 3: I do think it's something people really need to keep
Speaker 3: in mind. I would say, you know, really, the only
Speaker 3: immigration issue of the last thirty days which has been
Speaker 3: net positive for the Democrats was the Kilmar Albrego Carcia case.
Speaker 3: Of course, noteworthy the Trump administration did, you know, basically
Speaker 3: bow down to the Supreme Court and they brought him
Speaker 3: back here to face.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's a trial, right, I mean, by
Speaker 3: the way, you know, this guy's now free to give interviews.
Speaker 3: He's gonna have a defense team, like I'm sure he'll
Speaker 3: probably have like multimillion dollar defense.
Speaker 1: We have discover.
Speaker 3: I said yesterday, I really hope it doesn't take a
Speaker 3: plea deal because I actually wanted to go a trial.
Speaker 1: I'm serious.
Speaker 3: I want to be able to see all of the evidence,
Speaker 3: just to break some of this down that Harry was
Speaker 3: talking about. Let's go ahead and go through some of
Speaker 3: the slides, shall we. Let's put them up there on
Speaker 3: the screen. So this is Trump administration's program to deport
Speaker 3: immigrants illegally in the US. Fifty four percent approved, forty
Speaker 3: six percent disapproved. I will say that disapproved number has
Speaker 3: gone up, so people should keep that in mind. Dermostatic
Speaker 3: public opinion is definitely on its way as some of
Speaker 3: this becomes reality.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next part, shall we.
Speaker 3: Trump's deportation program is making people in the US quote
Speaker 3: safer forty two percent, less safe thirty percent, no change,
Speaker 3: twenty seven only really thirty percent there in the less
Speaker 3: safe category.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one we have here.
Speaker 3: Trump of the administration is prioritizing the deportation of dangerous criminals
Speaker 3: fifty three percent, forty seven percent those who aren't dangerous criminals.
Speaker 3: I will say, I mean, actually on this one, what
Speaker 3: you really have seen is kind of a shift and
Speaker 3: a push by Steven Miller and others to take place
Speaker 3: in workplace raids. You know, not necessarily even quote prioritizing
Speaker 3: dangerous criminals and others, but really just prioritizing the removal
Speaker 3: of people who are here illegally. Let's continue with some
Speaker 3: of these breakdowns. This, though, is why I think that
Speaker 3: this is all really happening when the nation's attention is
Speaker 3: all on immigration. As you can see here, Trump's tariffs
Speaker 3: and trade, Trump's goals versus Trump's approach, fifty percent of
Speaker 3: people are like, Yeah, Trump's goals I like. Thirty seven
Speaker 3: percent of people, though, say Trump's approach is something that
Speaker 3: they like. In terms of the dislike numbers, sixty three percent.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're going to do a supermajority status over there.
Speaker 3: Let's get to the next one, shall we. Here you
Speaker 3: see the impact of new tariffs on prices. You see
Speaker 3: in the short term, seventy seven percent that's going to
Speaker 3: increase prices, four percent say decrease, and only nineteen percent
Speaker 3: say have no impact and or not sure. And so
Speaker 3: if you think about really what's happening, this is.
Speaker 1: The whole thing.
Speaker 3: Forty five percent approved, fifty five percent disapprove. But it's
Speaker 3: fifty percent approved. On immigration, fifty percent disapprove, and on
Speaker 3: the economy it's forty two approve fifty eight Economy is
Speaker 3: weak for him. Immigrant remains basically the only real thing
Speaker 3: that they have left, in my opinion, especially after squandering
Speaker 3: a lot of the goodwill that they initially had coming
Speaker 3: in on Doge. But anything you want to say before
Speaker 3: we get to like some of the specific poems is.
Speaker 1: Real quickly on that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, immigration polling has the volatility of a Tesla stock.
Speaker 4: You look at twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, the country is
Speaker 4: actually kind of siding with Trump like that, and Trump
Speaker 4: says and believes, and I think rightly so that his
Speaker 4: seizing of that issue really catapulted him through the nomination
Speaker 4: and also then to the White House. When the images
Speaker 4: of the kids in the cages and the Muslim band
Speaker 4: and all this stuff like hits the American public in
Speaker 4: the face, they recoil and it flips, and you get
Speaker 4: this kind of massive support for immigration. You get yard
Speaker 4: signs and suburbs all over the country. Then under Biden,
Speaker 4: you have millions of people because you got these twenty
Speaker 4: twenty kind of shut down of the border because of COVID,
Speaker 4: So you've got all this pent up kind of pressure
Speaker 4: on the border that gets lifted at the same time
Speaker 4: Biden comes in millions of people coming across the border,
Speaker 4: and opinion flips back again.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think that's really what changed everything, because because it
Speaker 3: was a massive change in the status quo, and it
Speaker 3: was particular, it was a material, it was a genuine change,
Speaker 3: which I think a lot of people ignore.
Speaker 1: Like this is one of the things, right, and it's
Speaker 1: true throughout history like that.
Speaker 4: You know, you'd have periods of American history where you'd
Speaker 4: have massive inflows of immigration and then you'd have a
Speaker 4: reaction to that and have it shut down for a
Speaker 4: long time, and then you'd have loosening up again. So
Speaker 4: maybe things are moving faster now if if Trump overplays
Speaker 4: his hand, the public has shown a willingness to you know,
Speaker 4: pivot on a dime on this issue.
Speaker 1: No, I think it could be punishing.
Speaker 3: That's part of the reason why I do think that
Speaker 3: they are risking it with some of these because if
Speaker 3: it's seen as over zealous, militarized one that is uh,
Speaker 3: one that is extreme relative to where things are. I
Speaker 3: have no idea where things are going to fall, because
Speaker 3: I also think the appetite for a lot of people
Speaker 3: of crushing protests is pretty high. Let's go and put
Speaker 3: this eight up there on the screen. This is an
Speaker 3: interesting one. It kind of gets into some of the
Speaker 3: nitty gritty Americans believe LA protests should be handled by
Speaker 3: state and local authorities. This is a UGOV poll just
Speaker 3: literally came out yesterday. Who do you think it should
Speaker 3: be the lead in responding to protests? Fifty six percent
Speaker 3: say state and local, twenty five percent say the federal government.
Speaker 3: Nineteen percent say not sure. It's a little hard some
Speaker 3: of these, you go.
Speaker 4: Ahead, interesting question where the parties are very much divided. Yes,
Speaker 4: because the only people in the country who believe by
Speaker 4: a significant margin that the federal government should take the
Speaker 4: lead are Republicans, even Independence by fifty six to twenty
Speaker 4: here right say it should be state federal. Obviously, you know,
Speaker 4: overwhelming majority of Democrats believe that. So it's this situation
Speaker 4: where Republicans are in the vast minority on the question,
Speaker 4: but within the Republican base.
Speaker 3: Well, that's this question, that's that's that's kind of what
Speaker 3: I don't want to move away from. Do you approve
Speaker 3: disapproved of the protests? Thirty six percent approve, forty five
Speaker 3: percent disapprove. Not sure is nineteen percent. So that's one
Speaker 3: where I mean, I think these people should really take notice.
Speaker 3: I mean this, by the way, BLM was more popular
Speaker 3: at its initial outbreak than this is. And if you
Speaker 3: really look at some of this here you have right now,
Speaker 3: things are all over the all over the place, like,
Speaker 3: for example, do you believe the protests in Los Angeles
Speaker 3: against ice are quote mostly peaceful thirty eight percent, mostly
Speaker 3: violent thirty six twenty six not sure. So the more
Speaker 3: media that plays of violence like that's largely what's going
Speaker 3: to inform.
Speaker 1: A lot of this.
Speaker 3: I also again want to give a multifaceted picture. Do
Speaker 3: you approve or disprove the Trump Administration's handling of deportations?
Speaker 3: Thirty nine percent approve, fifty percent disapprove. So there's a
Speaker 3: lot of movement, you know, within this, And that's why,
Speaker 3: you know, it's funny because I see so much of
Speaker 3: this happen right now where people who speak out against
Speaker 3: like the Trump administration specific action are criticized as you
Speaker 3: interlow whatever. But it's like, guys, the public does pay
Speaker 3: attention to process. I get it, it's annoying, it's nitpicky
Speaker 3: or whatever. But you know, if anything, if you're quote
Speaker 3: on the team, paying attention to process really matters, especially
Speaker 3: for something like this, because you can see you actually
Speaker 3: have a net positive issue and then a net negative
Speaker 3: in terms of how the way that you are handling it.
Speaker 3: And that's why I think that this marine deployment in particular,
Speaker 3: I mean, also, who knows how long this is going
Speaker 3: to stay. One of the worst things about the jan
Speaker 3: sixth thing. There were National guardsmen in our streets here,
Speaker 3: Ryan for what four months? When did the first come
Speaker 3: down at the Capitol? It took months, by the way,
Speaker 3: I mean, that's crazy. The United States Capital is one
Speaker 3: of the most accessible places in America, I think.
Speaker 1: Which I think I thought it was never calm down.
Speaker 1: I thought so too.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, one of the cool things about
Speaker 3: the capital is constituents can just walk in there and
Speaker 3: like heckle their member of Congress. I encourage people to
Speaker 3: do it. It's it's really fun to watch. Actually, but
Speaker 3: that just stopped overnight. Of course the members loved it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, But the point is is that around Washington,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've seen this. When I came to college here,
Speaker 3: you could go up to the White House fence.
Speaker 1: Now not gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Lafayette Park. I think maybe in the last two years
Speaker 3: people have been able to go. During BLM, it was
Speaker 3: basically just shut down for like three years, which I
Speaker 3: think is nuts.
Speaker 1: Is bad.
Speaker 3: You know, these are like the nation's monuments, capitals, et cetera.
Speaker 3: And now here we have in the Los Angeles it's like, okay,
Speaker 3: so they're being sent there as you and I know
Speaker 3: it takes months, maybe even years for.
Speaker 1: People to be sent back.
Speaker 3: You want an active duty US Marine, you know, occupation
Speaker 3: or whatever around the federal liberation. But it sounds secks
Speaker 3: for them too, you know, Liberation Day. They don't want
Speaker 3: to live in downtown Los Angeles. It's a shipple compared
Speaker 3: to twenty nine pobs. Although apparently they don't like it
Speaker 3: there either because it's too hot, so whatever.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 4: When I moved to this city, you can actually drive
Speaker 4: along Pennsylvania Avenue.
Speaker 3: Oh those pre nine eleven right, Yeah, I've seen videos
Speaker 3: of that. I've never seen it. Yeah, yeah, you're just
Speaker 3: sitting in trafficking. It's like if you watch really old
Speaker 3: episodes of the West Wing from like nineteen ninety nine,
Speaker 3: you'll see car You're like.
Speaker 1: Wait, you could drive in front of the White House.
Speaker 1: You're like, that's crazy.
Speaker 4: When they shut it down, the whole city is like
Speaker 4: that's a major thoroughfare.
Speaker 1: That's how we get across that city. How are you?
Speaker 3: I don't shut down Membrane? What post pre nine eleven
Speaker 3: Washington d C? What was like it was the Golden age?
Speaker 3: It certainly was okay, So that's with polling, We don't
Speaker 3: last point of this.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, this is this will be as interesting
Speaker 4: as a trivia question a year from now, like what
Speaker 4: was the polling like at the beginning of this, because
Speaker 4: we have no idea where.
Speaker 1: This is headed. We truly don't, and that's that's going
Speaker 1: to change everything.
Speaker 3: Well, that's another question too around how the protesters themselves
Speaker 3: handle this in Los Angeles, because if you continue to
Speaker 3: see more looting or more Mexican flags and or you know,
Speaker 3: Waymo's being although I believe WEYMO has been shut down now,
Speaker 3: or you know, general like burning, you're going to see
Speaker 3: NetPro But if you just see these permanent drone helicopter shots,
Speaker 3: you know, and that doesn't even seem like it's particularly bad,
Speaker 3: I think public opinion could sway pretty quickly. And it
Speaker 3: is a big question too about how the rest of
Speaker 3: the nation will respawned. As of yet, have not seen much. No, no,
Speaker 3: there's nothing big going on in New York, nothing big
Speaker 3: going on. I mean there's little pockets, few things, San Francisco, Dallas.
Speaker 1: These are a few hundred people.
Speaker 3: These are not you know, ten even ten twenty thousand, like,
Speaker 3: let alone the millions that we originally saw back in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, we talked earlier about the
Speaker 4: disorganized nature of this and and I elevated that. But
Speaker 4: it is worth underlying underlining that they did arrest the
Speaker 4: head of the SCIU in California. But I'm that brought
Speaker 4: to people familiar with it.
Speaker 3: Can you lay out exactly what happened, because I know
Speaker 3: that that had happened, but I have not read this.
Speaker 1: It was like four days ago or so. It was
Speaker 1: David Whareta.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he's related to Dolores where to
Speaker 4: it was a legendary kind of civil civil rights and
Speaker 4: immigration rights figure, labor organizer, but so he's the head
Speaker 4: of the SCIU in California. And they were protesting these
Speaker 4: a bunch of arrests and detentions of people in this
Speaker 4: basement of this federal building. People who were being kept
Speaker 4: for many hours in pitch dark, being given you know,
Speaker 4: very little food and water over that period of time,
Speaker 4: just treated like, you know, treated absolutely horribly. And so
Speaker 4: there were very small protests around this, partly organized by
Speaker 4: SEIU in defense of their comrades, and they arrested the
Speaker 4: head of the state Chapter of the s CiU and
Speaker 4: then a bunch of people came out. So you can
Speaker 4: call that organized in the sense it's literally organized labor,
Speaker 4: because this is an organized group of people who were
Speaker 4: like they arrested, where to they did what not? Because
Speaker 4: he's here illegally using that kind of almost a loophole.
Speaker 4: What's the charge. The charge would be obstructing like you know,
Speaker 4: a lawful like immigration arrest or something. But I call
Speaker 4: it a loophole because if you're protesting the general policy
Speaker 4: of like the treatment of immigrants, and a cop is
Speaker 4: like move out of the way, and you're like, no,
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here protesting. You can arrest them for civil
Speaker 4: disobedience normally, and that's you know, that's typically how this
Speaker 4: miss this goes a little misdemeanor in said they're saying, ah, boom,
Speaker 4: you are, you're trying to obstruct a federal you know,
Speaker 4: carrying out of immigration duties. And so they arrested him
Speaker 4: for that and they're still holding him and so that
Speaker 4: that is what really kicked off the protest.