1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,599 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, Saga and Crystal here. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: Independent media just played a truly massive role in this election, 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 2: and we are so excited about what that means for 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: the future of the show. 5 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: This is the only place where you can find honest 6 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 3: perspectives from the left and the right that simply does 7 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 3: not exist anywhere else. 8 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 2: So if that is something that's important to you, please 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 2: go to Breakingpoints dot com. 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I have no idea including twins. 21 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: I was like, comforting and taking care of one screaming 22 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: child is enough, but to have two of them there 23 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 3: at the same time, they're on different crying schedules and 24 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 3: feeding schedules, I think I would actually lose my entire minds. 25 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: So I think I respect. I have so much more 26 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: respect for you. 27 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 4: I was thinking, I can't wait to go toe to 28 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 4: toe with Saga because he's going to be so depleted. 29 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: Because I said. 30 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 4: Yesterday, like playing in the NBA when one team has 31 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 4: played like four games. 32 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Well, especially that last night we had a streamer on 33 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: our hands, I'm just running circles around him. There, I know, I. 34 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 3: Said yesterday, I said, any bad take that I have 35 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 3: for the next year, you can just blame it on 36 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 3: sleep deprivation and me being I tweeted out my health 37 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 3: statistics yesterday. 38 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: A lot of people enjoyed that. 39 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 3: By the way, it's all worth it. I don't care, 40 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 3: but it is funny. All right, So let's go ahead 41 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,839 Speaker 3: and see what we have in the show today. 42 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: Let me the show bar. All right, this is the 43 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: tough part of the show. Los Angeles. 44 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: We're going to talk about some of the overnight developments there. 45 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 3: The big top line news is President Donald Trump mobilizing 46 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: several hundred United States Marines active duty service members, sending 47 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 3: him to Los Angeles for some sort of law enforcement 48 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 3: support mission. Still a lot of questions surrounding that. We're 49 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 3: going to show you some of the video and other things. 50 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: Clashes breaking out between lapd between protesters, last night there 51 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: was some looting as well, so we'll show everybody some 52 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: of the images. We're going to talk about a little 53 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: bit polling. I teased that yesterday there's been some CBS 54 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 3: News widespread polling about Donald Trump and immigration. This is 55 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: a big segment of our discussion yesterday with Crystal over 56 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 3: the popularity of Trump's program and also just broadly why 57 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 3: a lot of this fight is being picked. Right now, 58 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about Palantineer. This is a story that 59 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 3: I missed, but Ryan, you're really going to be driving 60 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 3: this one. This is Laura Lumer is getting involved. Tim 61 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: Dillon is alleging that there's widespread buying off of influencers 62 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: regarding Palenteer. 63 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, he really is the George carl I think he's 64 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: the George Carlin of our generation. 65 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: I said that yesterday China, We're going to give everybody, 66 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 3: and I know this is flying under the radar, but 67 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 3: it's tremendously important. United States and China negotiators met in 68 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: London yesterday just for the second round of trade talks. 69 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: Everybody's basically on pins and needles on what the hell 70 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 3: is going to happen here? The tariffs were off while 71 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 3: I was gone. Thank you, President Trump for removing the 72 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 3: crisis that you caused. 73 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: Many car seat. 74 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: Owners, however, have not yet shocker right, you will be 75 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: shocked to learn that car seat prices, stroller prices, and 76 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 3: all that did not go down even though the tariffs 77 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: went on. 78 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: We're going to read, sure it's a main stroller manufacturing. 79 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: Ninety nine percent of car seats are made in China. 80 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: You know that. Ninety nine safety? 81 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: And also you know another thing I learned recently is 82 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: you know, these car seats don't even last that long. 83 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 1: You can't donate them, right, like because and it's like 84 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: maybe I'm maybe cartel. 85 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: I think this is too safetiest, but like, you can't 86 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 3: donate a car seat. I mean, if you're in a 87 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 3: car wreck, that's one thing, But if you have a 88 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: perfectly good car seat, it really can't give it to somebody, 89 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: you know. 90 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 1: I think that's Nuts's corret. Sorry, I think it's crazy. 91 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm gonna have parenting Twitter and all those 92 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 3: people coming after me. 93 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. I just I think 94 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: it's wrong with you. 95 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: Okay, good, I'm glad they do all right. The only 96 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: reason not to want to use car seat is because 97 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: they shit all over them. 98 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: But that's a whole other story. 99 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: All Right, you can tell the things that are happening 100 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: in my life theo Von This is the segment. 101 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Unfortunately we're not able to get to you. 102 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: Yesterday we had our Gaza Flotilla guest, and of course 103 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 3: we wanted to prioritize that and talk about that. So 104 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 3: we're there's gonna be a couple of clips that we 105 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: want to talk about from theovon and jade Van's appearance 106 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: that came over the weekend, some interesting moments in particular 107 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: the d n C. I'm really excited for Ryan to 108 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 3: break some of this down for me because the DNC 109 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: is just I mean, I know it's fun to dunk 110 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: on them, but it's pathetic at this point. You know, 111 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: they've got this new YouTube show and we'll show you 112 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: how many views it Got's about how many views we 113 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 3: get every you know, five minutes or so around here total. 114 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: But you know what's even more pathetic is their leadership. 115 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 3: Is the guide now who's basically quiet quitting his job, 116 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 3: the new DNC chair. We're going to talk about talk. 117 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: I missed Taco Trump. I just have to appine on 118 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: that at some point. And then Ryan, You've got some 119 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: great got some great recording on Israel, which I'm very. 120 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: Excited for updates from the region. 121 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, but of course we've got to start the show 122 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 4: with Justin Baldoni's. 123 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: You know, I'm usually pretty into pop culture, but I 124 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: really could not tell you because I feel like things switched. 125 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: Every one, like people on the internet was on Blake 126 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 3: Lively side, and then there was like a countersuit with 127 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: voice memos and then Justin bald east side. 128 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: I know, but I don't know enough about the case. 129 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 1: The case. We talk about it. Whatever, you guys stick around. 130 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: I got to be honest. 131 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 3: My Blake Lively stock was very high coming out of 132 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 3: Gossip Girl, but since then, I'm like, I'm sorry, Like, 133 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: you know, we haven't seen anything good her. Her performance 134 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: in the town is like legendarily bad. Her Boston act, 135 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: it was horrible. I'm like, just stick to Serena, okay, 136 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 3: and you know, you guys have your mint mobile money now, 137 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 3: so just shut up b Taylor Swift's friend and. 138 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: Leave us long. No Taylor Swift dumpter? Did she really 139 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: I have a lot to tell you that God? 140 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: Yes, all right, all right, Well, there we go before 141 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: we get to any of the news, of course, So 142 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: we do have our free monthly trial going on right now. 143 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:41,840 Speaker 1: That's right. 144 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 3: You can go to breakingpoints dot com and sign up 145 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 3: for a one month free trial at BP free. That 146 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 3: is the promo code that is available to you. It 147 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: is actually going to end on Friday, So this is 148 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: your last chance, just this week to be able to 149 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: take advantage of that BP free at breakingpoints dot com. 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Yeah, but and that's 154 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 4: it's a Lucra. 155 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: And we never have people appreciate that. 156 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 3: I mean, we have left like oceans of money on 157 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: the table as a result of because we believe in 158 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 3: the monthly subscription model. 159 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, please please give us the black best. 160 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 4: So if we do not get enough monthly subscribers here, 161 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 4: Soccer and I are going to do blue choo, okay, blue. 162 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: Choo, No manscaped okay, manscaped blue chew? What are the 163 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: other ones out there? Draftking, Oh, everyone knows how I 164 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: would feel about that. 165 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: The DraftKings Man, make sure you can you imagine the 166 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: so you can bet now? Will there be a Parley 167 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: cho parlay? 168 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Blue Chew manscaped fan dual Draftking specially. 169 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: If you don't want that. 170 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: Travisy Yeah, sorry, Steak dot com as well. There's so 171 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 3: it's I will listen to so many of these what 172 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: else A g one? And I'm trying to think of 173 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: some of the other more popular Oh better, help, better, help, 174 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: You're a real man, don't worry. You can still get help. 175 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: I better. It's funny because now we're giving him free promo, 176 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: but everybody knows that Joe. Let's end voice them all. 177 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm trying to think of some other failed DTC 178 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: companies out there. Extraordinary news there, Ryan, I'm out of 179 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: Los Angeles from President Trump. You know. It's actually a 180 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: little bit crazy because literally moments before that announcement was made, 181 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 3: Trump had actually given a statement where he had I 182 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: wouldn't say it ruled out per se of sending in 183 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: the Marines, but he's like, I think that we have 184 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: it more under control. I have a few more details 185 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 3: that I can say. So it's a little complicated the 186 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: way this is being done. Trump has not invoked the 187 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 3: Insurrection Act, So this is from US Northern Command. They 188 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: say they have quote activated the Marine Infantry Battalion that 189 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: was placed in an alert status over the weekend. Seven 190 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: hundred Marines with second Battalion, seventh Marines' first Marine Division 191 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 3: will seamlessly integrate with the title ten forces under Task 192 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 3: Force fifty one who are protecting federal personnel and property 193 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: in the Greater Los Angeles area. The activation of the 194 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: Marines is intended to provide Task Force fifty one with 195 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: the adequate numbers of forces to provide continuous coverage of 196 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: the area in support of the lead federal agency. 197 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: Task Force fifty. 198 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: One provides a rapidly deployable capability to partner with civil 199 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 3: authorities and deity entities in response to homeland defense and 200 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 3: homeland security operations. So effectively, what they are saying is 201 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: that these seven hundred active duty Marines are being placed 202 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: under the same Task Force fifty one, which is basically 203 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: now comprised of the twenty one hundred National Guardsmen that 204 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 3: were mobilized by Trump previously, as well as these seven 205 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 3: hundred Marines, basically to supplement that mission. It does not 206 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: appear from what I can see in front of me 207 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 3: is that they will be quote, they have been trained 208 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 3: in de escalation, crowd control, and standing rules for the 209 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 3: use of force that are similar under the National Guardsmen. Effectively, 210 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: it's like using active duty soldiers as National guardsmen here 211 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: in the fourth I'm not trying to downplay it. I'm 212 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 3: just genuinely confused because this is such an extraordinary situation. 213 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 3: I mean, I actually cannot think really of the last 214 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: time that active duty US military members were actually deployed, 215 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: you know, without the consent and actually without the not 216 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: only the consent, but like the invitation right of the 217 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: governor of a state that was already pretty extraordinary. Not 218 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: happened since nineteen sixty five under LBJ, And so this 219 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: time around, I mean, it is difficult to contextualize. The 220 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: Marines have not yet arrived, we don't really know what 221 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: they're doing. But the image nonetheless is going to be 222 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 3: I mean shocking. It's a shocking development here from Donald 223 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 3: especially considering I mean, we will show people video from 224 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: last night, but I mean, but from by all accounts, 225 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 3: it does not appear to have been worse than the 226 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: previous two days of some of the rioting of protesting 227 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 3: that was happening in Los Angeles. 228 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 4: It's less yeah, yeah, and maybe they're like planning their 229 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 4: amphibious landing on Venice Beach or whatever wind up in 230 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 4: downtown Los Angeles. Let's start with a four before we 231 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 4: get into some of the other images. 232 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: A four. 233 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 4: This is Gavin Newsom saying that he's going to sue 234 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: the federal government. 235 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: That's for you know what. 236 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: On the one hand, you could dismiss as you know, 237 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 4: procedural or paperwork arguments. On the other hand, you could 238 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 4: say that this is you know, goes to the fundamental 239 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 4: nature of power sharing between the states and the federal government. 240 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 4: He calls it quote an unprecedented power graph. He argues 241 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 4: multiple things. One, he says the getting the National Guard 242 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 4: deployed was invalid because there is no insurrection, there is 243 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: no rebellion. It's just it's just a protest, and that 244 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 4: no kind of it's not the kind of protest that 245 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 4: the cops haven't been able to handle over many decades 246 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 4: and over the history of the United States. And he 247 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: also says that the law requires that you work with 248 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: the governor and that the governor be the one that 249 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 4: deploys the National Guard, and that's not just paperwork, because 250 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 4: what it does is it requires the buy in of 251 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: both entities. It keeps everyone together. If the government written 252 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 4: large is defined by its monopolization of the use of force. 253 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 4: If you now have a upily where you know, you've 254 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: got National Guard, you've got some members over here who 255 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 4: are responsible to this state actor, and then you've got 256 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: another state actor that also has men and women under arms, 257 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 4: and you're sending them into the same streets. You know, 258 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: that's that's not how this is envisioned to go. 259 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, as you said, with some of 260 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 3: the images, let's go ahead and put some of these 261 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: up there on the screen. I'll just kind of narrate 262 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: kind of what we see here. This is just some 263 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 3: collated footage that we see. I want everybody to keep 264 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 3: in mind that everything you're seeing here is LAPD, who 265 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 3: as I said yesterday, I mean, look, I think one 266 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 3: of the distinguishing characteristics between this and BLM is that 267 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 3: I said previously, I don't think that democratic leaders are 268 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 3: like really justifying a lot of this going on right now. 269 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 3: In fact, you know, LAPD, as you can all see, 270 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: is like pretty ready to rock and roll from what 271 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 3: we see right now. I mean, the justification appears to 272 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 3: be that this would free up LAPD resources. But you 273 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: can see here right now, you know, this was after 274 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 3: I believe that there was like a declared online assembly yesterday. 275 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 3: People are not heating Crystal's warning and they do continue 276 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: to wave Mexican flags there in the streets of Los Angeles. 277 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 3: Here we had some we had some looting and several 278 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: retail establishments. Of course, people very very upset at over 279 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: immigration detention, just like they were over George Floyd, which 280 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: is why Apple stores and Adidas rep places. 281 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: Have to be looted. 282 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: But as you can see, you know, in front of you, 283 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 3: there are several arrests and other things that have taken 284 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 3: place that does look like police it is. This is 285 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: another thing that's just so difficult to distinguish when the 286 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: police start to gear up in military camo. I mean, 287 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 3: this is something that goes all the way back to 288 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: Ferguson with the militarization of a lot of American police forces. 289 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: Like when you literally can't even tell and you have 290 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 3: to look the shield as to what it is, we shouldn't, 291 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: you know, overplay it either. There were a lot of 292 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 3: peaceful protests that happened in the streets of Los Angeles. 293 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 3: As you can see in front of you. There were 294 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 3: marches that happened in some of the streets as well 295 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: as across the United States and several different pockets around 296 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: that was happening. This is getting quite a bit of attention. 297 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 3: These were some images that were tweeted out by Governor 298 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom of National guardsmen who were sleeping on the floor. 299 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: This was Governor Newsom's critique here saying that Trump basically, 300 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 3: you know, sent the National Guard in without proper planning 301 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 3: and without proper planning or resources. It is funny, because 302 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 3: I'm not funny for the people to the floor, that's terrible. 303 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 3: But actually I do remember that this was a similar 304 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: controversy here in Washington after the January sixth riots. If 305 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 3: you'll remember, we were living in the Green Zone Ryan 306 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 3: after January six here in Washington, and I distinctly remember 307 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: walking by parking garages and just seeing like a thousand 308 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 3: guys sleeping on the floor in January in a park, 309 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,559 Speaker 3: cold concrete in January. You know, they were definitely here 310 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 3: for what exactly, So because of a qwanon Ryot, I 311 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: feel kind of similarly about this. I mean, there's no 312 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 3: real reason at least in my opinion, outside of optics. 313 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 3: But we will get to the polling for a lot 314 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: of this. But I mean, I think it fits with 315 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 3: a lot of the Trump administrations straps, inviting fights over 316 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: you know, basically extraordinary uses of power, and in this 317 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 3: particular case, trying to pick a fight where he does 318 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 3: believe he feels strongest politically. And part of the reason 319 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 3: for that is we talked a lot about this yesterday. 320 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 3: I'm curious what you think is that. I think it's 321 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 3: really important to contextualize what's happening in Los Angeles. But 322 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 3: it's also important to contextualize that probably ninety percent of 323 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 3: the country has never been to Los Angeles, maybe even 324 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 3: ninety five percent of the country. So when you are 325 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh or Detroit, or Georgia or Charlotte, North Carolina, 326 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: any of these places, you don't know anything about LA. 327 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 3: All you're watching is the video about what's happening over there. 328 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 3: And with images like this, regardless when you're watching CNN, 329 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: Fox or anything, you're going to be seeing the Mexican flag, 330 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: you're going to be seeing some of the or if 331 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: you're on social media, you're going to be seeing some 332 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: of the looting. You may even be seeing some of 333 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: the peaceful protesting and all of that as well, but 334 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 3: you are going to get the impression that things are 335 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 3: really hot and on fire in the city, and that 336 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 3: means that drawing attention to that and then the conflagration 337 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 3: surrounding it at an level is really one that Donald 338 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 3: Trump is inviting. 339 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: And there's a bunch of discussion kind of in the 340 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 4: center left around the question of how smart are the 341 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 4: protests for Democrats or how smart are the protests for 342 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 4: opposition to Trump, which ignores the fact that doesn't matter 343 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: what anybody thinks, like this is not a centralized, like 344 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 4: Soros planned thing. 345 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: Well you should speak on that, because there is actually 346 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: a lot of right wingers who do believe that this 347 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: is like massively or by the way, I've always found 348 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 3: that incredibly stupid, Like there's this theory in the right 349 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 3: that every left wing protest is like organized and supported 350 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: by NGO. Now, I won't deny that these people don't 351 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: have email lists or whatever bust people in or any 352 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 3: of that, but I mean, I was living here in 353 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 3: the city during BLM. I can pretty much just guarantee 354 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: you that it wasn't because of organization. I mean I 355 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 3: think it was like again, literally people being at home, 356 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 3: mass psychosis, just believing in this cause. Whatever I find, 357 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 3: we've litigated that to that. My point though, is that 358 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody for us, my white liberal neighbors, 359 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 3: to all go out into the streets. Oh exactly, for Bilam, 360 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 3: they went because they were upset. I think people are 361 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: upset here too. I think it's fine. You know, we 362 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 3: live in democracy, it's right. 363 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 4: And the different groups that get tagged as being central 364 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: to these these protests happening had the same budget ten 365 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 4: years ago, two years ago, you know, six months ago. 366 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 4: Yet they didn't weren't able to get people out on 367 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: the streets because right, sure you can get and you know, 368 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: when it's like an NGO protest, everyone there is wearing 369 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 4: the same T shirts. There's like forty five people, they 370 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 4: all know each other, they're on the clock. Yes, yeah, 371 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 4: so those are literal paid protesters, but nobody has the 372 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 4: money to go beyond like a couple dozen of those 373 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: kinds of people. You need an actual spark, and you 374 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 4: need gasoline, and then you get people out onto the 375 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 4: streets and what the Trump administration has been doing was 376 00:16:54,600 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: effectively guaranteed to create this reaction and arguably designed to 377 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: create this reaction because they love it, Like they absolutely 378 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 4: adore these images that they're getting. Let's let's Trump do 379 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 4: the thing he's really wanted to do. Send in the Marines. 380 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, there is real like on the right in particular, 381 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 3: there's still a lot of anger about the way that 382 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: the BLM protests we're. 383 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: Going to restorel well, I mean, you can smash it. 384 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: It's bi directional. 385 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 3: Nobody's forcing people to loot Adidas in Apple stores, Okay, 386 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: and every person who does. You know, all right, you 387 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 3: know it's not twenty twenty anymore. You don't have CNN 388 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 3: panels talking about riot is the voice of the unheard. 389 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you're kind of an idiot and you're going 390 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: to jail. 391 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: But I will say, you know, on that front, that's 392 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: this whole like tone policing around protesters. 393 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. I still think it's important. 394 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: Actually, I think it's important for opinion leaders and others 395 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 3: to learn lessons politically and for people to recognize, like, hey, 396 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: this is really bad. Like well, I mean, on January 397 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 3: sixth and all that there was at least what a. 398 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: Two year or three year period were really like, yeah, 399 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,959 Speaker 1: you know, like that didn't turn out so well for us. 400 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 3: It ended up being fine, I guess in the end, 401 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 3: and people largely forgot about it. But I mean, I 402 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 3: don't think we could deny that. In twenty twenty two. 403 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 3: If you remember a lot of the more like Jen 404 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 3: six adjacent Republicans who ran, they all lost, right, I mean, 405 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:17,199 Speaker 3: Doug Mastriano, David Purdue, remember a day against Raffensburger. 406 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,360 Speaker 1: We had Brian Kemp survive. 407 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: Like it was important actually in its time to not 408 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 3: necessarily carry Lake, you know, to be a peer as 409 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: one of these people who saved degress extreme. It gave 410 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: Democrats the United States Senate. And that's arguably the reason 411 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 3: that what we have, like the inflation reductionists so many 412 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: ten pulp, whether you like them or not, that is 413 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 3: actually did have an impact. 414 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: Sure it didn't end up having in twenty twenty four. 415 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: But anyway, I do think like that level of people 416 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: advising them to be smarter or whatever, I don't think 417 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: it's a bad idea because sure maybe some Mexican flag 418 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 3: waivers are always going to do it. But it does 419 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: matter to have like a top down kind of commentariat 420 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 3: telling people and be like this is not good, Like 421 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: you are inviting your own destruction to a certain extent, 422 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 3: and I think people like you and Crystal I have 423 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 3: spoken up against that destruction and you're like, that's not 424 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 3: what we want to see. So just don't give people 425 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 3: what they want, which is generally a good ruin politics. 426 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: By the way, it's it's interesting though that the security 427 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 4: forces never get tone policed, like you never hear it, 428 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 4: not even even on Fox. 429 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: I only not on Newsmax. 430 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 4: Hey buddy, maybe you shouldn't on camera aim your weapon 431 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 4: at an Australian reporter and pull the trigger. 432 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 3: I did see poor people criticize that at least at 433 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 3: least I don't know if it's I don't watch Newsmax Confession, 434 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 3: but it may have been Fox. 435 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: I actually have no idea. 436 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 4: Or like plain clothes, Ice spoons should stop going around 437 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: masked because there was just this case in Philadelphia where 438 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 4: a guy went into like like a barber shop or something, 439 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 4: and or beauty shop or something and was masked and 440 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 4: dressed like a fake Ice agent. Because ICE agents are 441 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 4: now putting on these bandanas refusing to identify themselves, you know, 442 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 4: zip tying people and dragging them off the street. And 443 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 4: so this guy went in and he's like Ice and 444 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 4: he like zip tied this woman and then took like 445 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 4: a thousand dollars because everyone's like, oh wait, we're not 446 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 4: allowed to get in front of ICE or else we're 447 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 4: going to get arrested too, and nobody toned. 448 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: Police is the other side. 449 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 4: But so the point is I think this is this 450 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 4: is what Trump wants, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's 451 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 4: good for Trump. 452 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: As we're going to get into it, I really don't know. 453 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: I mean, one of the important things that I what 454 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 3: I tried to highlight yesterday is like one of the 455 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 3: reasons why I thought, at least yesterday we're doing this 456 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 3: in real time. While I'm like, I think it isn't 457 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 3: that positive for Trump? Is? 458 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 1: I think, whoever this is. 459 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,479 Speaker 3: Just generally on these types of social issues, whoever seems 460 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 3: crazier usually is the person who loses. And if you 461 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 3: look at the last couple of months for the Trump 462 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: administration on immigration, you had the Kilmar Abrego Garcia case, right, 463 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: you had El Salvador Seacott. 464 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: You did not largely have an elevator. 465 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 3: Of stories for ic deportation raids or you know, gang 466 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 3: criminals rape whatever, Like that's not what the main story was. 467 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 3: But then you flip it and you're like, oh, well, 468 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: now you have people waiting Mexican flax, burning waymos in 469 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 3: the street. Now you know ad looting and all this. 470 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 3: People think may think I'm obsessing about the looting. I'm 471 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: trying to highlight for you what boomers are going to 472 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 3: be seeing in Alabama. Like I'm trying to I want 473 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 3: people to really know how like important these images are 474 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: going to be against for anyone like marginally right wing aligned. 475 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 3: This is spreading like wildfire across the entire Internet, and 476 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 3: that is going to inform a lot of the way 477 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 3: that they're going to think and behave for Republican politicians 478 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 3: and support vice versa. By the way, if you're somebody 479 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 3: on the left, I mean, I know there's massively viral 480 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 3: of images. I think it's like Kirk Russell's son like 481 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,919 Speaker 3: speaking back to the cops, like you should be ashamed 482 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 3: of yourself or whatever. I see it on Twitter it's 483 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: guy fifty eight thousand retweets. So I mean, look, everybody's 484 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: living in their own in from environment, and people should 485 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 3: understand that. I still think we're probably in net positive territory. 486 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: But there are a couple of things. 487 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 3: The marine image is going to be a crazy one 488 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: that I mean's just crazy. 489 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: Right. 490 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: They have an active dute in the United States Czy 491 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 3: Marina on the streets of Laston. 492 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: That's nuts, all right. Like I believe one of the 493 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: only times. 494 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 3: In US history that active duty soldiers were mobilized for 495 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: a domestic law enforcement situation was one hundred and first 496 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 3: Airborne in nineteen fifty seven with President Eisenhower around that desegregation. 497 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 3: Can I forget exactly, I mean, it's the governor who 498 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 3: stood in. 499 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: The schoolhouse store. I don't I don't remember. 500 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: The name of it exactly, but I mean that's kind 501 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 3: of what we're talking about in terms of its precedence. 502 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 3: Another one here is this looming threat to arrest Gavin Newsome. 503 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: So this is something Gavin floated yesterday. He was like, 504 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 3: go ahead and arrest me. Donald Trump actually spoke on it, 505 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 3: was asked about it yesterday, endorsed the idea. 506 00:22:56,440 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen, Gavin. 507 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 5: He's daring Tom Holman become an erecto should he do it. 508 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: I would do it if. 509 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 5: I was Tom. 510 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 6: I think it's great Gavin, but I think everything he's done. 511 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: A terrible job. 512 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 6: Look, I like Gavin news and he's a nice guy, 513 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 6: but he's grossly inconfidence. Everybody knows. All you have to 514 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 6: do is look at the little railroad he's building. It's 515 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 6: about a hundred times over budget. We're putting a flag 516 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 6: fall over there under budget. I always do under a 517 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 6: crime has he committed. I think his primarily primary crime 518 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 6: is running for governor because he's done such a bad job. 519 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 6: What he's done to that state is like what Biden 520 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 6: did to this country, and that's pretty bad. It's the 521 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 6: wrong philosophy. 522 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: So that was Trump saying, basically endorsing the idea of 523 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 3: arresting Newsome quote, I would do it if I were Tom. 524 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: I think it's great. Tom Homan here, that's who he's 525 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 3: referencing there. Actually did react to that, and so far 526 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: has said that nothing news is done is the rest worthy. 527 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and play at a five. 528 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 7: Please didn't the reporter asked you, well, could he governor? 529 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 7: Governor Newsom or or mayor basby arrested? I said, well, no, 530 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 7: one's about Blahl. They crossed the line to wait a crime. 531 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 7: Absolutely they can. So there was no discussion about wrestling Newsom, 532 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 7: and it told you know what he's done. 533 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: He failed. He failed that date. 534 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 7: He waited two days of that city burning and people 535 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 7: getting hurt off she was being assaulted before before he 536 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 7: made any declaration of an awful on lawful assembly. He 537 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 7: late to the game. President Trump isn't late to the game. 538 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 7: Men and women advice are not late to the game. 539 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 7: And men and women he's the men women the board 540 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 7: joke made la safe for that day. But you're not 541 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 7: hearing any of this. Oh, hear's a rhetoric about Ice 542 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 7: being racist and Ice being Nazis and terrorists, and Governor 543 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 7: Newsom feeds that. 544 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: So that's what. 545 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: And he gave another interview to CNN just yesterday saying 546 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 3: that he's like he hasn't done anything yet, absolutely has 547 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: not done anything yet to have a bad governor, I 548 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 3: mean in a sense I actually want because you know, 549 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think he should be arrested. 550 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: I think it would be pretty insane. 551 00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: It kind of would be the best thing that could 552 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 3: happen to Gavin Newsom for his wife career. I was 553 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: wondering I wanted to get your reaction as to that, 554 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 3: because I mean, obviously Newsome initially dabbled in kind of 555 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 3: his Steve Bannon podcast and he was like Charlie Kirk right, 556 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 3: and he was he was kind of trying to enter 557 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 3: the bro sphere. 558 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: But I would say during this crisis, like. 559 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: He kind of has, you know, stepped up as a 560 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 3: resistance style figure and anything he does as oppositional as 561 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: he can to the Trump administration, I do think he 562 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,640 Speaker 3: could be you know, something like this could be very 563 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: beneficial to him and could change his kind of future 564 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: orientation as a democratic leader. 565 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 4: And he likes to walk a tightrope, and this is 566 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 4: the tightrope that the kind of tightrope he likes to 567 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 4: walk because he wants to be able to be out 568 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 4: on the edge pushing back against the Trump administration's authoritarianism. 569 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 4: But he doesn't want us seem like he's endorsing burning 570 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 4: a a Waymo car or looting an Apple store. But 571 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: he does want to endorse the right to peaceably assemble 572 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: and protest. He does want to push back against you know, 573 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: Trump's across the board. We're going to find everyone and 574 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 4: deport them, including green card holders, while not endorsing you know, 575 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 4: criminals who are staying here. So like, I think he 576 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 4: kind of enjoys that effort to like balance all of 577 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 4: those different things. 578 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 3: And as long as he is the face of like 579 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: this standing up against Trump and that's where you want me, 580 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 3: that's exactly kind of where he wants to be. I mean, 581 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 3: this is all in the political realm, I do think, 582 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: which is I mean, it's pretty nuts, like marines are 583 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 3: on their way to Los Angeles and it is It 584 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 3: is curious too, because I mean, by Trump's own comments, 585 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 3: he said, he's like, yeah, I think things are calming down. 586 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: And look, I understand, you know, we just play videos 587 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: of looting or whatever. 588 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: I would also say in Los Angeles. 589 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: I hate to say, this is like not exactly the 590 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 3: place where looting is particularly uncommon. I don't think it 591 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: should be that way, but you know it's not something 592 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 3: like LAPD is dealing with for the very first time. 593 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 3: So this is what we see right now in terms 594 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 3: of the situation there. 595 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I guess the big jump. 596 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: That would have to take place next, which I know 597 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 3: it sounds crazy about with the sending of active duty troops. 598 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 3: The big one would be in evoking of the Insurrection 599 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 3: Act because the troops are still being sent under this 600 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: Title ten authority, and the Marines are still being actually 601 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: placed in the same like unit as these National guardsmans, 602 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 3: which means they're not out on the streets like conducting 603 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: law enforcement behavior. I believe of like a National guardsman 604 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 3: can't even make an arrest unless a cop is like, hey, 605 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 3: you should you know, detain this person. It purely is 606 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 3: like being able to deploy tear gas and defense or 607 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 3: whatever of federal effectively creating a perimeter with shields around 608 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: the federal property. 609 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, and some of the pro January sixth people on 610 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 4: the right are so salty about getting accused of carrying 611 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 4: out an insurrection that now they see they everything is 612 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 4: an insurrection. Comically, see insurrections everywhere. It's like, guys, you 613 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 4: sack the capital to try to interfere with the transfer 614 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 4: of power, Like there's a reason people threw the I 615 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 4: word in there. That's different than a protest over immigration 616 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 4: or police violence that happens in the downtown. 617 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: But they're like, well, you're trying to inhibit like a 618 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 3: lawful activity of deportation is. 619 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 4: The law right, But you're not trying to change the regime. Yeah, 620 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 4: And an insurrection is trying to change the regime, which 621 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 4: is what they were trying to do on January sixth, 622 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 4: by their own not just admission, but proud like that. 623 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: That's what they were standing up for. They're going to 624 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: save the republic seventeen seventy six. Yeah, well that's a 625 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 1: little bit of an IQ test. 626 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 4: Also doing the whole seventeen Your whole motto is seventeen 627 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 4: seventy six. And then you've been crying ever since that 628 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: you got accused of an insurrection. 629 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 3: Ran. If you are looking for intellectual consistency here, you 630 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: are in the wrong place, my friend. 631 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: Right when you just need to read some book, I'll 632 00:28:58,680 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: see my way out. 633 00:28:59,400 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 8: Yeah. 634 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 3: Right. With the deportations and some of the polling, let's 635 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 3: go ahead and move to some of this. There's some 636 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,239 Speaker 3: data that has been coming in on this. And by 637 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 3: the way, it is not you know, it is not uniform. 638 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 3: It is kind of all over the place, and this 639 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: is part of the ride. The circumstances are around this matter. 640 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 3: CNN's Harry Enton breaking some of this down. Let's take 641 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 3: a lesson. 642 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 8: Donald Trump, the president picking a fight on this and 643 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 8: to an extent, you see Los Angeles Mayor Karen Vass 644 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 8: a Democrat, and the California Governor Gavin. 645 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: Newsom pushing back. 646 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 8: So what a voters see in terms of their perceptions 647 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 8: of Republicans the president or Democrats, say Gavin Newsom on 648 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 8: this issue. 649 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, the American electorate believe that the Democrats don't have 650 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 5: a clue on the issue of immigration. I mean, you 651 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 5: could just take it here closer to trust more and immigration. 652 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: Democrats versus Republicans. Got three different polls. 653 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 5: For you across the board. They all tell the same story. 654 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 5: Republicans lead on the issue of immigration. You see it here, 655 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 5: CBS plus six, You see it here, CNN plus six, 656 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 5: you see it here, IPSOS Bigger plus nineteen. No matter 657 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 5: what poll you look at, no matter which way you 658 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 5: cut it, the American public is with the Republicans. The 659 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 5: American public is with Donald Trump, and to a much 660 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: greater extent than they were in term number one. And 661 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 5: it's not just on the broad issue of immigration. It's 662 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 5: on the specifics as well in which the American public 663 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 5: is with Donald Trump and the Republicans. And that is 664 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 5: why Donald Trump is eager to take on this fight 665 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,280 Speaker 5: and eager for those scenes. 666 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 3: That's exactly what we were saying, you know, yesterday, and 667 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 3: I do think it's something people really need to keep 668 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 3: in mind. I would say, you know, really, the only 669 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 3: immigration issue of the last thirty days which has been 670 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: net positive for the Democrats was the Kilmar Albrego Carcia case. 671 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: Of course, noteworthy the Trump administration did, you know, basically 672 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,479 Speaker 3: bow down to the Supreme Court and they brought him 673 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: back here to face. 674 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 6: Yeah. 675 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's a trial, right, I mean, by 676 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: the way, you know, this guy's now free to give interviews. 677 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,320 Speaker 3: He's gonna have a defense team, like I'm sure he'll 678 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: probably have like multimillion dollar defense. 679 00:30:59,360 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: We have discover. 680 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 3: I said yesterday, I really hope it doesn't take a 681 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 3: plea deal because I actually wanted to go a trial. 682 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm serious. 683 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 3: I want to be able to see all of the evidence, 684 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 3: just to break some of this down that Harry was 685 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 3: talking about. Let's go ahead and go through some of 686 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 3: the slides, shall we. Let's put them up there on 687 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 3: the screen. So this is Trump administration's program to deport 688 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 3: immigrants illegally in the US. Fifty four percent approved, forty 689 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 3: six percent disapproved. I will say that disapproved number has 690 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: gone up, so people should keep that in mind. Dermostatic 691 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 3: public opinion is definitely on its way as some of 692 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: this becomes reality. 693 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: Let's go to the next part, shall we. 694 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: Trump's deportation program is making people in the US quote 695 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 3: safer forty two percent, less safe thirty percent, no change, 696 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 3: twenty seven only really thirty percent there in the less 697 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: safe category. 698 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: Let's go to the next one we have here. 699 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 3: Trump of the administration is prioritizing the deportation of dangerous criminals 700 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: fifty three percent, forty seven percent those who aren't dangerous criminals. 701 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 3: I will say, I mean, actually on this one, what 702 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 3: you really have seen is kind of a shift and 703 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 3: a push by Steven Miller and others to take place 704 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: in workplace raids. You know, not necessarily even quote prioritizing 705 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 3: dangerous criminals and others, but really just prioritizing the removal 706 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 3: of people who are here illegally. Let's continue with some 707 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 3: of these breakdowns. This, though, is why I think that 708 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: this is all really happening when the nation's attention is 709 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 3: all on immigration. As you can see here, Trump's tariffs 710 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 3: and trade, Trump's goals versus Trump's approach, fifty percent of 711 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: people are like, Yeah, Trump's goals I like. Thirty seven 712 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 3: percent of people, though, say Trump's approach is something that 713 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 3: they like. In terms of the dislike numbers, sixty three percent. 714 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: I mean, we're going to do a supermajority status over there. 715 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 3: Let's get to the next one, shall we. Here you 716 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 3: see the impact of new tariffs on prices. You see 717 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 3: in the short term, seventy seven percent that's going to 718 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: increase prices, four percent say decrease, and only nineteen percent 719 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: say have no impact and or not sure. And so 720 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 3: if you think about really what's happening, this is. 721 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: The whole thing. 722 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 3: Forty five percent approved, fifty five percent disapprove. But it's 723 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 3: fifty percent approved. On immigration, fifty percent disapprove, and on 724 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 3: the economy it's forty two approve fifty eight Economy is 725 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 3: weak for him. Immigrant remains basically the only real thing 726 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: that they have left, in my opinion, especially after squandering 727 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 3: a lot of the goodwill that they initially had coming 728 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 3: in on Doge. But anything you want to say before 729 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 3: we get to like some of the specific poems is. 730 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: Real quickly on that. 731 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, immigration polling has the volatility of a Tesla stock. 732 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 4: You look at twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, the country is 733 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 4: actually kind of siding with Trump like that, and Trump 734 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 4: says and believes, and I think rightly so that his 735 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 4: seizing of that issue really catapulted him through the nomination 736 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 4: and also then to the White House. When the images 737 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 4: of the kids in the cages and the Muslim band 738 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 4: and all this stuff like hits the American public in 739 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 4: the face, they recoil and it flips, and you get 740 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 4: this kind of massive support for immigration. You get yard 741 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 4: signs and suburbs all over the country. Then under Biden, 742 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 4: you have millions of people because you got these twenty 743 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 4: twenty kind of shut down of the border because of COVID, 744 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 4: So you've got all this pent up kind of pressure 745 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: on the border that gets lifted at the same time 746 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 4: Biden comes in millions of people coming across the border, 747 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 4: and opinion flips back again. 748 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 749 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: I think that's really what changed everything, because because it 750 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: was a massive change in the status quo, and it 751 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 3: was particular, it was a material, it was a genuine change, 752 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: which I think a lot of people ignore. 753 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: Like this is one of the things, right, and it's 754 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: true throughout history like that. 755 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 4: You know, you'd have periods of American history where you'd 756 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 4: have massive inflows of immigration and then you'd have a 757 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 4: reaction to that and have it shut down for a 758 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 4: long time, and then you'd have loosening up again. So 759 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 4: maybe things are moving faster now if if Trump overplays 760 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 4: his hand, the public has shown a willingness to you know, 761 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 4: pivot on a dime on this issue. 762 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: No, I think it could be punishing. 763 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: That's part of the reason why I do think that 764 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,839 Speaker 3: they are risking it with some of these because if 765 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 3: it's seen as over zealous, militarized one that is uh, 766 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 3: one that is extreme relative to where things are. I 767 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 3: have no idea where things are going to fall, because 768 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 3: I also think the appetite for a lot of people 769 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,439 Speaker 3: of crushing protests is pretty high. Let's go and put 770 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 3: this eight up there on the screen. This is an 771 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 3: interesting one. It kind of gets into some of the 772 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 3: nitty gritty Americans believe LA protests should be handled by 773 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 3: state and local authorities. This is a UGOV poll just 774 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 3: literally came out yesterday. Who do you think it should 775 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 3: be the lead in responding to protests? Fifty six percent 776 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 3: say state and local, twenty five percent say the federal government. 777 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 3: Nineteen percent say not sure. It's a little hard some 778 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,399 Speaker 3: of these, you go. 779 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 4: Ahead, interesting question where the parties are very much divided. Yes, 780 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 4: because the only people in the country who believe by 781 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 4: a significant margin that the federal government should take the 782 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 4: lead are Republicans, even Independence by fifty six to twenty 783 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,880 Speaker 4: here right say it should be state federal. Obviously, you know, 784 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 4: overwhelming majority of Democrats believe that. So it's this situation 785 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 4: where Republicans are in the vast minority on the question, 786 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 4: but within the Republican base. 787 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 3: Well, that's this question, that's that's that's kind of what 788 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: I don't want to move away from. Do you approve 789 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 3: disapproved of the protests? Thirty six percent approve, forty five 790 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 3: percent disapprove. Not sure is nineteen percent. So that's one 791 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 3: where I mean, I think these people should really take notice. 792 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 3: I mean this, by the way, BLM was more popular 793 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: at its initial outbreak than this is. And if you 794 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 3: really look at some of this here you have right now, 795 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 3: things are all over the all over the place, like, 796 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 3: for example, do you believe the protests in Los Angeles 797 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 3: against ice are quote mostly peaceful thirty eight percent, mostly 798 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 3: violent thirty six twenty six not sure. So the more 799 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 3: media that plays of violence like that's largely what's going 800 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,400 Speaker 3: to inform. 801 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: A lot of this. 802 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 3: I also again want to give a multifaceted picture. Do 803 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 3: you approve or disprove the Trump Administration's handling of deportations? 804 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 3: Thirty nine percent approve, fifty percent disapprove. So there's a 805 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: lot of movement, you know, within this, And that's why, 806 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 3: you know, it's funny because I see so much of 807 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 3: this happen right now where people who speak out against 808 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:00,040 Speaker 3: like the Trump administration specific action are criticized as you 809 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,879 Speaker 3: interlow whatever. But it's like, guys, the public does pay 810 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 3: attention to process. I get it, it's annoying, it's nitpicky 811 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 3: or whatever. But you know, if anything, if you're quote 812 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: on the team, paying attention to process really matters, especially 813 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 3: for something like this, because you can see you actually 814 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: have a net positive issue and then a net negative 815 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 3: in terms of how the way that you are handling it. 816 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 3: And that's why I think that this marine deployment in particular, 817 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 3: I mean, also, who knows how long this is going 818 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 3: to stay. One of the worst things about the jan 819 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 3: sixth thing. There were National guardsmen in our streets here, 820 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 3: Ryan for what four months? When did the first come 821 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,959 Speaker 3: down at the Capitol? It took months, by the way, 822 00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 3: I mean, that's crazy. The United States Capital is one 823 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 3: of the most accessible places in America, I think. 824 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: Which I think I thought it was never calm down. 825 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,120 Speaker 1: I thought so too. 826 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, one of the cool things about 827 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 3: the capital is constituents can just walk in there and 828 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 3: like heckle their member of Congress. I encourage people to 829 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 3: do it. It's it's really fun to watch. Actually, but 830 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 3: that just stopped overnight. Of course the members loved it. 831 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, But the point is is that around Washington, 832 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: I'm sure you've seen this. When I came to college here, 833 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 3: you could go up to the White House fence. 834 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: Now not gonna happen. 835 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: Lafayette Park. I think maybe in the last two years 836 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 3: people have been able to go. During BLM, it was 837 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 3: basically just shut down for like three years, which I 838 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:15,280 Speaker 3: think is nuts. 839 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: Is bad. 840 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 3: You know, these are like the nation's monuments, capitals, et cetera. 841 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 3: And now here we have in the Los Angeles it's like, okay, 842 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 3: so they're being sent there as you and I know 843 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 3: it takes months, maybe even years for. 844 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 1: People to be sent back. 845 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 3: You want an active duty US Marine, you know, occupation 846 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 3: or whatever around the federal liberation. But it sounds secks 847 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 3: for them too, you know, Liberation Day. They don't want 848 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,320 Speaker 3: to live in downtown Los Angeles. It's a shipple compared 849 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 3: to twenty nine pobs. Although apparently they don't like it 850 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 3: there either because it's too hot, so whatever. 851 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 7: I don't know. 852 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 4: When I moved to this city, you can actually drive 853 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 4: along Pennsylvania Avenue. 854 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 3: Oh those pre nine eleven right, Yeah, I've seen videos 855 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 3: of that. I've never seen it. Yeah, yeah, you're just 856 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: sitting in trafficking. It's like if you watch really old 857 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 3: episodes of the West Wing from like nineteen ninety nine, 858 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 3: you'll see car You're like. 859 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 1: Wait, you could drive in front of the White House. 860 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: You're like, that's crazy. 861 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 4: When they shut it down, the whole city is like 862 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 4: that's a major thoroughfare. 863 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 1: That's how we get across that city. How are you? 864 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 3: I don't shut down Membrane? What post pre nine eleven 865 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 3: Washington d C? What was like it was the Golden age? 866 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 3: It certainly was okay, So that's with polling, We don't 867 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 3: last point of this. 868 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 4: I think, yeah, this is this will be as interesting 869 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 4: as a trivia question a year from now, like what 870 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 4: was the polling like at the beginning of this, because 871 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 4: we have no idea where. 872 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,879 Speaker 1: This is headed. We truly don't, and that's that's going 873 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: to change everything. 874 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 3: Well, that's another question too around how the protesters themselves 875 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 3: handle this in Los Angeles, because if you continue to 876 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 3: see more looting or more Mexican flags and or you know, 877 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,239 Speaker 3: Waymo's being although I believe WEYMO has been shut down now, 878 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 3: or you know, general like burning, you're going to see 879 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 3: NetPro But if you just see these permanent drone helicopter shots, 880 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 3: you know, and that doesn't even seem like it's particularly bad, 881 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 3: I think public opinion could sway pretty quickly. And it 882 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: is a big question too about how the rest of 883 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 3: the nation will respawned. As of yet, have not seen much. No, no, 884 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,839 Speaker 3: there's nothing big going on in New York, nothing big 885 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 3: going on. I mean there's little pockets, few things, San Francisco, Dallas. 886 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: These are a few hundred people. 887 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 3: These are not you know, ten even ten twenty thousand, like, 888 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,360 Speaker 3: let alone the millions that we originally saw back in 889 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 3: twenty twenty, right. 890 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 4: I mean, I you know, we talked earlier about the 891 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 4: disorganized nature of this and and I elevated that. But 892 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 4: it is worth underlying underlining that they did arrest the 893 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,399 Speaker 4: head of the SCIU in California. But I'm that brought 894 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:33,320 Speaker 4: to people familiar with it. 895 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 3: Can you lay out exactly what happened, because I know 896 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 3: that that had happened, but I have not read this. 897 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 1: It was like four days ago or so. It was 898 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: David Whareta. 899 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's related to Dolores where to 900 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 4: it was a legendary kind of civil civil rights and 901 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 4: immigration rights figure, labor organizer, but so he's the head 902 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 4: of the SCIU in California. And they were protesting these 903 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 4: a bunch of arrests and detentions of people in this 904 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 4: basement of this federal building. People who were being kept 905 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 4: for many hours in pitch dark, being given you know, 906 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,480 Speaker 4: very little food and water over that period of time, 907 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 4: just treated like, you know, treated absolutely horribly. And so 908 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 4: there were very small protests around this, partly organized by 909 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 4: SEIU in defense of their comrades, and they arrested the 910 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 4: head of the state Chapter of the s CiU and 911 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 4: then a bunch of people came out. So you can 912 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 4: call that organized in the sense it's literally organized labor, 913 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 4: because this is an organized group of people who were 914 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 4: like they arrested, where to they did what not? Because 915 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 4: he's here illegally using that kind of almost a loophole. 916 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 4: What's the charge. The charge would be obstructing like you know, 917 00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 4: a lawful like immigration arrest or something. But I call 918 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 4: it a loophole because if you're protesting the general policy 919 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 4: of like the treatment of immigrants, and a cop is 920 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 4: like move out of the way, and you're like, no, 921 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 4: I'm sitting here protesting. You can arrest them for civil 922 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 4: disobedience normally, and that's you know, that's typically how this 923 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 4: miss this goes a little misdemeanor in said they're saying, ah, boom, 924 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 4: you are, you're trying to obstruct a federal you know, 925 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 4: carrying out of immigration duties. And so they arrested him 926 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 4: for that and they're still holding him and so that 927 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 4: that is what really kicked off the protest.