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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: He also live on a Choose the edition of Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily. I am merely Bo. He is the great Z.

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Speaker 2: I do. Yeah, it's interesting. Normally, well, you know you

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Speaker 2: don't sound great.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm like eighty percent. I'm gonna I'm battling. I

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Speaker 3: got through the morning, and I'm optimistic that I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: be all right.

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Speaker 1: I was not.

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Speaker 3: I was on the equivalent of one, which is this guy?

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Speaker 3: What is that on this Let's let's get this all right.

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 4: First of all, it's a he's not even looking. He

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Speaker 4: looks like missed it.

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Speaker 3: It looks to me like if looked to me like

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Speaker 3: if he were paratrooped into like skyfall, he could have

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Speaker 3: helped James Bond with Javier Bardam like. There was I'm

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Speaker 3: pretty sure that was some sort of an English field jacket.

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Speaker 3: I'm guessing there was some sort of perhaps water resistant

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Speaker 3: fabric on that, perhaps a wax jacket a barber.

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Speaker 2: If you will let me think that. You should have

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Speaker 2: seen him at this game.

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Speaker 4: He had like a a dark chocolate camel hair carcoat,

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Speaker 4: collar popped. He had a cashmere like camel colored swack

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Speaker 4: it underneath it with another short cowboy boots and he

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Speaker 4: was like and jeans that by his standards were I said,

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Speaker 4: they look these look like mc hammer pants on you.

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Speaker 4: He's normal, yeah, he said, apparently he was. He's he

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Speaker 4: decided he's got to rain in the he's got to

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Speaker 4: rain in the tightness.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, it's what the people want. And I

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Speaker 2: think we created an index. I think we did.

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Speaker 3: I also think when you are in places like Denver

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Speaker 3: or Dallas, it is infectious to not wear cowboy boots

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Speaker 3: or to wear them.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you want to put them on? And I

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Speaker 2: got news for you.

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Speaker 3: I've got a couple of pair and you you wear

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Speaker 3: them around and you're like, okay, yeah, I.

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Speaker 2: Could do some damage. It was great.

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Speaker 4: I was dead on the sidelines before the game with

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Speaker 4: with I mean at the top of the pendulum, luminaries

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Speaker 4: in that in that orbit, luminaries and.

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Speaker 2: There it is he deal through. Oh go, that's so good.

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Speaker 2: And to your point.

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Speaker 4: So there was a guy who walked by and like

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Speaker 4: wave to uh the J Dubbs and J Dubbs way

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Speaker 4: back to him, and I was like, okay, I was like,

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Speaker 4: I need the story. This guy's walking by. He's in

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Speaker 4: a big stetson if I use that properly, and I

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Speaker 4: felt confident about it. Yeah, it's a brand for Big

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Speaker 4: Black One and uh cowboy boots, full mustache or whatever, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 4: how do you know this guy? He's like, he's like

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Speaker 4: he's a guy who lived near us and would help out,

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Speaker 4: you know, around the house with the kids and stuff

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Speaker 4: like that. And then he's like you moved down or

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Speaker 4: he's gone full cowboy and I'm like, I was like,

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Speaker 4: I love this guy.

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Speaker 2: To meet this guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think that's what happens. Yeah, and you're

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Speaker 3: seeing a lot more of it. That Yellowstone Show I

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Speaker 3: think has brought it out even more.

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Speaker 2: Cowboy culture, people of the cowboy culture, all of that.

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Speaker 3: Beyonce did a Western album, so I think everybody's all

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Speaker 3: jacked up about us.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen the reply yet, Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, well it's it's as you thought it would be.

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Speaker 3: It was you know what all right, let's talk about it. Well,

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Speaker 3: let's let's do this, because I have a lot to

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Speaker 3: say about it. To be honest with you, in the

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Speaker 3: last couple of years since Kevin's been here, you pour

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Speaker 3: over losses typically with an incredible amount of disdain and

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Speaker 2: And what what just happened?

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Speaker 4: I was entertained, I believe I quoted Maximus Desmus Murdius

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Speaker 4: at one point.

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Speaker 2: The game is that are you not entertained? It's fun?

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Speaker 2: It was fun. Here's the reality.

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Speaker 4: We can only say these things because there truly were

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Speaker 4: no stakes. The sad reality is that this season is over.

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Speaker 4: And and Riz went on a big rant about this

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Speaker 4: this morning. He was very mad that people were saying

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Speaker 2: And basically, you know, the.

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Speaker 4: Fact that we people think that they could have fun

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Speaker 4: fact that we're out of it. And I'd say, yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's just okay. It's the reality of the situation. If

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Speaker 4: that game were for like, if we went in there

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Speaker 4: be after that game the seven seed and the loser

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Speaker 4: was not, it's a completely different tone. Today's context. It's

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Speaker 4: all context. So the fact of the matter is we

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Speaker 4: were out of it. We went there, we did I think,

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Speaker 4: checked so many boxes and we'll talk about those. But

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Speaker 4: at the same time you lose which big picture is

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Speaker 4: honestly okay? Yeah, because this you're we talked about like

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Speaker 4: good losses. That's a loss where you come out of

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Speaker 4: it not thinking we're a rudderless ship. You don't come

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Speaker 4: out of it thinking, oh man, there's no talent on

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Speaker 4: this team.

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Speaker 2: Man, we're bad. What are like?

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Speaker 4: No, you come out of it being all right, there's

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Speaker 4: stuff here that we clearly can do at a high level.

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Speaker 4: It opens the door for you know, potentially Jamis coming

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Speaker 4: back because guy just threw from more yards than anybody's

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Speaker 4: single game. You know, Jerry Judy is looking like he

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Speaker 4: has been unlocked and is a number one. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that is a performance that he put on knowing what

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Speaker 4: that game meant to him. Yeah, and quite frankly should

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Speaker 4: have had over three hundred yards because he was wide

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Speaker 4: open for an eighty nine yard touchdown that Jamis overthrew

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he So.

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Speaker 4: I just thought there was a lot to take away

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Speaker 4: from it. So it's not Man, this team sinks him.

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Speaker 4: We need to win to prove to ourselves, you know

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Speaker 4: that we can be good. Yeah, you want to win

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Speaker 4: some more games down the stretch, of course, I get that.

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Speaker 4: But that game gave you all you wanted, you felt.

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Speaker 4: I think you should have felt pretty good about a

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Speaker 4: lot of things that happened. It was unfortunately. That's kind

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Speaker 2: We don't know if he will be, but you know

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Speaker 2: that's that's that's in the brochure.

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Speaker 4: That's why you know it's been a little bit more

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Speaker 4: challenging for him to land somewhere as a full time guy.

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Speaker 2: I think that he's shown, without a shadow.

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Speaker 4: Of a doubt that he is one of the thirty

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Speaker 4: two best quarterbacks on planet Earth. I don't even think

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Speaker 4: that's even He's probably one of the best twenty four

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Speaker 2: Well, I think he's definitely one of the top ten

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Speaker 2: throwers of the football. Yes, or maybe it was man

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Speaker 2: all runs together, it was last night.

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Speaker 4: If only we could have somebody who like was like

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Speaker 4: Jamis but didn't throw the picks. I'm like, well, then

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Speaker 4: you're talking about Justin Herbert and the homes and that's

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Speaker 4: top five arm talent and and and yeah, like that's franchise,

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Speaker 4: franchise quarterback. I'll tell you Burrow, that's Herbert. Pocket movement

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Speaker 2: And as it ended with three interceptions, the last one

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Speaker 2: surely it was bad. He just missed a throw to

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Speaker 4: Nick Benito on the first one made a heck of

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Speaker 2: Nick Benito, yeah, and I just was. I stopped him

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Speaker 2: for a second. I was just like, hey, man, like

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Speaker 2: this told my coloriest resident. I tell you them.

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Speaker 4: I've been on the sidelines or whatever for full seasons

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Speaker 4: for you know, over a decade. I have never seen

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Speaker 4: linebacker like I've seen TJ. Watt drop and make interceptions,

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Speaker 4: but it's usually they underestimate either how athletic is. They

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Speaker 4: in there and he catches it. This one, he was

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Speaker 4: in his zone. He covered an out, he came back

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Speaker 4: and covered a second receiver and then saw and broke

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Speaker 4: and picked it like he looked like a corner of

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Speaker 4: in your rest of you're having a great season, you know,

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Speaker 4: when you watch their tape, he jumps out and in

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Speaker 4: this game he was had a sack almost you know,

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Speaker 4: forced to fumble, got the pick six. He said, you

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Speaker 4: know it was a pretty impressive guy. Not a huge

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Speaker 4: guy either, no shorter than I am, and honestly gotten

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Speaker 4: not all that much bigger. I think he's listened to

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Speaker 4: thirty five, So if he's listed it to thirty five, yeah,

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Speaker 4: probably he's probably not two thirty five.

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Speaker 2: No h but just incredible.

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Speaker 4: But there was so much that Jamis did well in

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Speaker 4: that game. His ability to maneuver in the pocket is

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Speaker 4: throws and accurate throws on the run. As bad as

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Speaker 4: the throw on the pick six was, the throw on

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Speaker 4: fourth down to Elijah Moore was perfect.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I said this a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: Like you and I have always been, We've always been big.

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Speaker 4: Jamis fans like, why is he not starting in this league?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: And I think you see, you see, you see I

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Speaker 3: still think he's I do too. But and maybe he'll

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Speaker 3: be here next year, God willing that's the case.

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Speaker 2: But what.

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Speaker 3: What you what what Jamis allows for is he allows

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Speaker 3: for this fan base, this team, everybody around it, for

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Speaker 3: you to see some fun football fun.

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Speaker 2: It was really fun fun.

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Speaker 3: And he makes you he has the courage to stand

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Speaker 3: in the pocket and he will take hits. And he's

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Speaker 3: not the pocket. He's not drifting in the pocket. He

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Speaker 3: stands in the pocket. Oh, and he steps from it.

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Speaker 4: He can, He gets left, he gets right, He maneuvers

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Speaker 2: And so he allows for what you saw from our

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Speaker 2: from our receiving corps, where you have receivers all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, Jerry Judy's like fifth of the league in

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Speaker 2: receiving after that game.

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Speaker 4: Jerry Judy, since he's taken over, Yeah, in his five

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Speaker 4: games with him, is now number.

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Speaker 2: One in the league in yards per game with Jameis

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Speaker 2: wins James.

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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, So it allows for that. It allows for

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Speaker 3: Elijah Moore to have eight for one hundred and eleven.

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Speaker 3: It allows Chief to catch nine and become the second

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Speaker 3: leading tight end catcher in the history of this franchise.

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Speaker 3: But it allows for the offensive line to know where

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Speaker 2: That was another thing.

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Speaker 4: Our pass protection has been better, and it's in many

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Speaker 4: and navigats by it. Look, if anything, this run with

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Speaker 3: He's so much fun and everybody loves him. The other

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Speaker 4: I mean, I still think that you that's a position

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00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,439
Speaker 4: that you could look at early, just being kind of

438
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 4: cognizant of everything that's going on at that position in

439
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 4: your organization.

440
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,719
Speaker 2: It's always good to have weapons, you know.

441
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 4: But no, you're right if you bring Elijah wants to

442
00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 4: stay here and you can get like a little hometown

443
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 4: discount for him.

444
00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:07,680
Speaker 2: He knows.

445
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 4: If you went the next season with Judy Elijahn Tilman,

446
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 4: I don't think there's anything in chief and much healthier

447
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 4: by that point, Nick Chubb, I don't think there's anything

448
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 4: wrong with what you've got on offense.

449
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 3: I thought Akman and Buck were largely sensational. I think

450
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 3: Akman's the best color analyst right now going on television.

451
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,880
Speaker 3: I think you're the best on radio, but I think

452
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 3: he's great on television. But the one thing that they

453
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,439
Speaker 3: struggled with was Nick Chubb, and they kept talking about

454
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 3: it's been this many minutes since Nick Chubb has played,

455
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 3: it's been this many plays since he's hadn't been in

456
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 3: and it was like, yeah, he's he's coming off of

457
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 3: two catastrophic surgeries. This isn't Nick Chubb from a year

458
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: ago prior to injury. And that was the only it

459
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 3: was weird how they just kept kind of hitting it

460
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 3: and talking about it in the broadcast, and I I

461
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 3: thought it was very common sense as to why there's

462
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,920
Speaker 3: going to be times when he's not there and he's

463
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 3: he's not what he once was. I'm not suggesting he

464
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 3: won't be at some point hopefully next year he is.

465
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,199
Speaker 3: He has a great offseason, and that's it. But I

466
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 3: don't think it's fair. I don't think it's out of

467
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 3: bounds to say it'd be hard to imagine it this year.

468
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 2: Listen, here in the middle of.

469
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 4: It, here's the reality of the situation, right, this is

470
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 4: a horrific injury. This is a horrific injury that's going

471
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 4: to take a while to go. You know, Nick Chubb

472
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,119
Speaker 4: and drome Ford at the same number of carries in

473
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 4: this game, and Jerome Ford doubled him up in yards

474
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 4: for the season. Drome Ford's averaging four point eight yards

475
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 4: of carry. Nick Chubb's averaging three. Yeah, you know, Nick

476
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 4: Chubb has twelve more carries than drome Ford. Drome Ford

477
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 4: has one hundred more yards than Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb's

478
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,919
Speaker 4: longest run so far as fifteen yards. He has a

479
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 4: ten and a fifteen.

480
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,960
Speaker 3: Well that's it pass, Yes, that was the longest. That

481
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 3: was way from scrimmage, wasn't it.

482
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 2: It was that made it on the broadcast there you go, Yeah, yes,

483
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: it was nineteen yards there, but you got even space.

484
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 2: It's just not the gear that next gear isn't there yet.

485
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 4: The ability to get to that gear quickly. It used

486
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 4: to be boom and now I'm gone. And that's common

487
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 4: with this type of an injury. And so you're going

488
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 4: to see where he's at next year. But I think that, yeah,

489
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 4: you should be. If you're the Browns, you feel what

490
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 4: you're seeing with Jerry Judy and Jery Jew's avings sixteen

491
00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 4: yards of catch, eight hundred and eighty yards ten yards

492
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 4: of target, he's going to go well, he will have

493
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 4: his first thousand yard season in his career.

494
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is.

495
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,239
Speaker 4: Contract is going to look like an absolute steal by

496
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 4: the end of this year, and he's under it. For

497
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 4: a few years. So that's a big feather in your cap,

498
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 4: you know. I think Elijah you can probably bring back

499
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 4: on a very reasonable deal, and he's proven to be reliable,

500
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 4: I think in very big situations. There are multiple games

501
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 4: where on third downs where we needed it or fourth

502
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 4: downs where we needed it, that's where the ball went.

503
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 4: You think about the win over the Ravens. He was

504
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 4: massive down the stretch in that game on some big

505
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,640
Speaker 4: third downs and obviously in this one had that catch

506
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 4: on fourth down on what could have been the go

507
00:23:59,080 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 4: ahead drive.

508
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: It was fun.

509
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 4: It's really incredible. Here's just to kind of put it

510
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 4: in perspective. Jamis two hundred and thirty attempts to Shawn

511
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 4: two sixteen Jamis seventeen hundred and sixty three yards Deshaun

512
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 4: eleven forty eight. Jamis eleven touchdowns to Shawn five yards

513
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 4: per attempt seven point seven versus five point three. And

514
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 4: here's a big this to me, this is actually a

515
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 4: very These next two are are very very big air

516
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 4: yards per attempt for Jamis's seven point twenty five, it

517
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 4: was five for DeShawn. Yards per completion for Jamis's thirteen

518
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 4: was eight for DeShawn.

519
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's what it looked like.

520
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 3: One other thing I want to ask you about on

521
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 3: the other side of the defensive side, and obviously you're

522
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:48,639
Speaker 3: watching every play this team plays all season long, is

523
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 3: has Denzel Ward played himself into All Pro recognition this year?

524
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: Is paying attention to our program at all? He look

525
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: his feet home, He's got his feet give all night

526
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: in the what's your problem? You're in the villa last night.

527
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: Probably gotta rub down before you cut the early flight out.

528
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 5: What in the hell? The girl almost slept on my

529
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 5: lap on the flight home?

530
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: He was like, across three you.

531
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 5: Okay, So I'm awake because the headrest comes up to

532
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 5: the middle of my back on the flight. So there's

533
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 5: nothing I'm doing on this one that's gonna.

534
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 4: Let me also, let me jump in real fast. Okay,

535
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna propose a very simple math problem to you.

536
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

537
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, We're gonna use these as examples. Okay,

538
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 4: it right along with the water bottle.

539
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 3: A water bottle in the middle, and we kind of

540
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: have a water bottle sandwich with two pieces of paper

541
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: on the outside.

542
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 4: If we go like this, the water bottles still in

543
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 4: the middle, we're both. It's we have the same distance

544
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 4: from each other. Everybody should recline reclination on the flight,

545
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 4: because what's happening now is nobody reclines.

546
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: They reclined. Nobody will reclined.

547
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 5: Why I don't recline.

548
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: You're not a recliner. No, I recline on a red eye,

549
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 2: But I don't. He doesn't. Duh Do you try to?

550
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 5: Or you're just like I can't mean i'd wake up.

551
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: He's I literally put my head against the screen in

552
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 5: front of me and like balance that.

553
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 2: Way he's watching.

554
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 5: I was, by the way, fantastic series.

555
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 2: I bet that would be very good.

556
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 5: It's very well.

557
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 3: Some people do the thing where they like put put

558
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: the pillow like in front of him and just lean over.

559
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 3: The only chance I have to sleep on a plane

560
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 3: is unless and there's been plenty of times it's been

561
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 3: so tired that it could sleep anyway.

562
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 5: But like if I go against the window, I can

563
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 5: sleep when I'm against the window. He loves himself the

564
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 5: window seat.

565
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah you got switch switch with you?

566
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 5: No, And I was good, like I I understand what

567
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 5: what it is.

568
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: And just get through it. Yeah, you just like I

569
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: probably slept again.

570
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 5: Have that Rocky Mountain Air shoot you home because we

571
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 5: at home at two and a half hour.

572
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably slept a good two hours of two

573
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: and a half Do you try to sleep while your

574
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 2: loading planes?

575
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: I just closed my eyes and I just am like

576
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: I refuse to open them.

577
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: Same like whatever I'm doing, I just same. I just

578
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 2: keep them closed no matter what I need. I think

579
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: on the window for a lot.

580
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 4: But then at one point I had to like my

581
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 4: back was because I had to come this way, and

582
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 4: I think I was on I.

583
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: May have been on your back.

584
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 5: You were sleeping on my bag, Yeah, because there's no

585
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 5: overhead room. I don't know. We're on a Dreamliner and

586
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 5: there's no overhead. I don't know where the space goes,

587
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 5: but there's never.

588
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 3: Space seven six Yeah, I think that's not the overhead compartment.

589
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 5: Been you're well, and that's as big a plane as

590
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 5: you're gonna have for the rest of the year. It's

591
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 5: all short.

592
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pittsburgh, So this was don't you think everybody should

593
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: Let's just all agree, we're all going to reclaim. Everybody

594
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 4: gets the exact same amount of room, and now we're

595
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 4: all in a better sleeping position. What happens is people

596
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: won't recline, so somebody does recline, and then I get

597
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 4: called out like an by mo pedman coming home from

598
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 4: Seattle and guess what.

599
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: Not sad that I did it? No, you did the

600
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 2: right things. Especially if I was in the aisle seat,

601
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: I'd have to.

602
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 3: I will say this the only pushback I'll give, and

603
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 3: I'm not even know if I want to qualify it

604
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 3: as a pushback is if if I'm not going to

605
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: try to sleep well. For sure, they reclined as the

606
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 3: most uncomfortable way you can sit in a plane, because

607
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 3: there is no it's just you're like all the grows down.

608
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: I'm talking red eyes only, red eyes only. I can

609
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 4: I have no problem co signing that. Or I would

610
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 4: also add any flight that takes off before seven am.

611
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 2: Sure you should be able to that. That should be

612
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 2: the same rules, like when they don't turn the lights on,

613
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: like the same thing. Just keep it. They're they're telling

614
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: you what they want you to do. It's like sometimes

615
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 2: it's when when traffic infuriates me. If we all go

616
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: the same speed, we can all be moving.

617
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 3: Everyone's moving, baby, Everyone's moving. I had a great zipper

618
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: merge today at the drop.

619
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: Off I think that.

620
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 3: We even got a text, even got a text from

621
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: one of the moms and she said, but it's so

622
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 3: nice you let us sit you me in.

623
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: I said, I didn't known such thing. It's a zipper merge.

624
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: You go, I go, you go, I go, like boom

625
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: and it's moving.

626
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 4: Let's not get in one lane and leave another line

627
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 4: completely open for eight miles and then pull out when

628
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 4: people are like, wait, this is a lane that's open.

629
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: If I wasn't allowed to driving the lane, guess what

630
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 4: would be here?

631
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: Lane closed? Right, that's right. It forced me on a lane. Yeah,

632
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: the zipper merge. But I think everybody ask Denzel Warrick,

633
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, I say, did I not? What did

634
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 2: I say on the broadcast when I said to Z,

635
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: he is you've watched every game? Yeah? Is he?

636
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: I feel like he's doing enough to warrant All Pro?

637
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: Are we going to win enough? And is he going

638
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 3: to get enough games?

639
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 4: I think so, I said, I think I think he

640
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 4: should be a first team All Pro this year, leading

641
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 4: the league and passes defense.

642
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: He said nineteen, he's got the two picks.

643
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 4: Now, really you could get him credit for the other pick.

644
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: If we're being totally honest. I mean, he batted that

645
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 2: ball in the air.

646
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 4: Greg News was in the right place first time, made

647
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 4: a good catch, but he was certainly right there to

648
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 4: do that.

649
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: So this is no.

650
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt he's playing. I think he is

651
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 4: a first team all Pro. I think he will be,

652
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 4: and I'm pretty sure that would be his first He

653
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 4: has not been all pro, not even second.

654
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: He's been Pro Bowl a lot, three times, three times,

655
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: but he's never been All Pro. So I think he's

656
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: playing at a level.

657
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Speaker 5: But my concern and it's Tuesday, and I mean we

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Speaker 5: literally got home twelve hours No.

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Speaker 2: Not even he talking twelve ply six hours ago.

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Speaker 5: I got home six hours ago. I have a travel

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Speaker 5: meeting already for Pittsburgh at like four o'clock.

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Speaker 2: Isn't that just hop in your car?

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Speaker 5: Well, some people get to do that, so I would

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Speaker 5: do that.

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Speaker 2: We could do that. Don't you could do that? Give

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Speaker 2: no why?

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Speaker 5: There's only so many parking passes, There's only so many things.

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Speaker 5: I'll be on a bus Saturday at noon.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, probably do is just drive and then

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Speaker 2: leave my car at the hotel.

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Speaker 4: What does it say is to be fair, Gibbe is

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Speaker 4: here where the bus departs from Also true, the bus

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Speaker 4: for me departs the wrong way, exactly opposite way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thirty some minutes the wrong way, right yeah.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, no, ze girl did hit the dens out there.

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Speaker 4: And I'm, you know, here for the interest of the company.

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Speaker 4: And this is why jenks I told him, I don't

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Speaker 4: need a hotel room. I'm good, I'm good. Don't worry

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Speaker 4: about me, buddy, don't worry about me. Let's go put

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Speaker 4: that right the people. Let's go put that right in

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Speaker 4: the old profit category right in there.

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Speaker 2: Chu ching. So there you go.

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Speaker 3: H it goes in the books forty one to thirty two.

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Speaker 3: Denver a winner over the Cleveland Browns out in the

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Speaker 3: Jameis Winston from the podium. Also Jerry Judy on what

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Speaker 3: was it despite the loss A probably very special homecoming

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Speaker 3: for him. We'll get to all of that coming up.

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Speaker 2: He listen to Clevelandrounsalyen eight fifty ESPN.

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Speaker 6: They have more in Woods to the right. Knickstands on

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Speaker 6: the fifteen. Jamis from under center at the eighth with

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Speaker 6: Woods coming back in motion. Play fake to Chuck prowing.

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Speaker 7: Up into the end zone, caught touchdown David nut Choko

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Speaker 3: game day, it is your quarterback, Jameis Winston.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's tough for any team to win when you

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Speaker 8: have two defensive touchdowns that quarterback gave them, played good offense,

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Speaker 8: played well. I didn't do a great job.

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Speaker 2: Jinas Jerry coming back to Denver obviously a lot of

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Speaker 2: emotion in that and tell them to the friend to

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Speaker 2: go out and perform the way he did. What does

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Speaker 2: that say about him?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: He he's phenomenal.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 8: Uh we we we knew at the beginning of the week.

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Speaker 5: What time.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 8: Uh, he he was hungry. Uh, he was preparing, and

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Speaker 8: he was ready to get back here and show up

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Speaker 8: and show out. And he and he did that, and

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Speaker 8: uh it's import it's unfortunate that uh we didn't get

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Speaker 8: this win for him. Uh, but I'm happy that he

725
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Speaker 8: had a career day. I'm happy that he did amazing.

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Speaker 8: Uh but he's an amazing receiver.

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Speaker 9: He said that the first throw, H wasn't a scripted

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Speaker 9: place your second rd.

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Speaker 2: On the first player.

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Speaker 8: Uh. Yeah, he he made some big plays. I I

731
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Speaker 8: just I I gotta play better. That's that's the biggest thing.

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Speaker 5: So chans tin you likelogizes, Yeah, I did.

733
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Speaker 2: It was my fault. I does it.

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Speaker 5: That's evident.

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Speaker 8: Had two touchdowns, two touchdowns by the defense, pick sixes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been here before.

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Speaker 5: I gotta play better.

738
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Speaker 8: I am moving forward.

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Speaker 4: I mean, what what do you do.

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Speaker 6: To try not to do those kind of plate?

741
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Speaker 8: You get better. You make the play when it matters most.

742
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Speaker 8: That's what great quarterbacks do, They make the play.

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Speaker 2: What what ever, when you.

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Speaker 10: Say you've been here before, does that make it more frustrating,

745
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 10: cause obviously you think you're a better point you quarterback?

746
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I am I I am, I am a be

747
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 8: I am a better player, you know. Uh, but A

748
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Speaker 8: and in times like this, you know.

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Speaker 2: That's.

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Speaker 8: It's it's a opportunity to continue to go off out

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Speaker 8: the Lord, even through the toughest circumstances.

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Speaker 2: I know 'em better than this, I know.

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Speaker 8: I'm I'm like, I'm just praying for the Lord to

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Speaker 8: deliver me from pick sixes.

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Speaker 2: Like that's just that's not me.

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Speaker 8: Like a phenomenal game offense do some great things, but

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Speaker 8: I mess it.

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Speaker 3: Up, especially after uh the first one right back with

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Speaker 3: the guy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that doesn't matter it, it doesn't matter. It's about finishing.

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Speaker 8: It's about executing when your team needs you the most.

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Speaker 8: I take pride in that. And uh, i'm'a i'm'a i'm'a

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Speaker 8: keep working. I'm'a fix it.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 8: I apologize to the guys, I know, but you know,

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Speaker 8: I s I'm still gonna get a glory to the Lord. H.

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Speaker 8: Nothing's gonna change from a mental perspective, but the physical perspective.

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Speaker 8: I'm'a continue to work and I will be better, especially

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Speaker 8: in the fourth quarter when you have to be the best.

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Speaker 11: Can she got a relatively short turn around, you know,

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Speaker 11: shortly come off a fun night road money NIGHTEVI but does.

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Speaker 2: That help that it's Pittsburgh, it's a team you just

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Speaker 2: saw all of the days ago. Does that help with not.

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Speaker 5: Just you know, do you play white?

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Speaker 2: But also emotionally come you off with this year? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Man, that this this this wa this was a tough

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Speaker 8: one man in front of that the whole world, the

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Speaker 8: h from the whole world. Uh I I messed it

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Speaker 8: up for us and from the whole world. Uh, but uh,

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Speaker 8: i'm'a continue uh to get better.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 8: We're gonna put this one behind us, and uh and

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Speaker 8: Lord willing, we go to Pittsburgh and and finish strong, finish.

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Speaker 8: It's about finishing. It's about showing up when you need

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00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 8: to show up most. Uh That's what great players do. Uh.

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Speaker 8: I believe I'm a great, a great prayer, a great

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00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 8: a great player, and I have to I have to

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Speaker 8: continue to uh exemplify that uh consistently, over and over

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Speaker 8: play after play.

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Speaker 3: Process for you.

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Speaker 8: Uh. It it it's simple.

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Speaker 2: It's it's one player at a time.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: It's it's prayer.

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Speaker 5: It's it's acting.

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Speaker 8: Why it's it's uh more prayer, it's acting for deliverance.

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Speaker 1: Of that.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 8: And it's and it's just going to work. It's it's

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Speaker 8: being accountable for lay your teammates. No, I'm a bounce

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00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 8: back and and being about it, not saying it. That's

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Speaker 8: that's the easiest way chance to I would be better

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Speaker 8: for this team, for my family, uh, for this organization. Uh,

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Speaker 8: that's the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Jamis from the podium following the loss last night in Denver,

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Speaker 3: Jerry Judy had himself a night. It obviously meant a

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Speaker 3: lot to him to be able to perform in that way,

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Speaker 3: albeit in a loss. Here is your wide receiver number one.

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Speaker 3: On his return to Denver, I.

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Speaker 2: Heard it that was a lot of bulls. Hunt sounded

812
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: like what that means. There was a lot of catches too.

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Speaker 2: Would have been better in a win. I would have

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Speaker 2: given it all up had we won.

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Speaker 4: The guest, of course, I loved him saying that, But

816
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Speaker 4: he else said, you don't boo people unless like you

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Speaker 4: know that they're That means you've got their attention, that

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Speaker 4: you know that I'm talented. Otherwise it wouldn't be doing

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Speaker 4: to me if you thought I was just a JABBRONI

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Speaker 4: I'm not worth it.

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Speaker 5: Well, no, ye, it's like last night, you know. I

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Speaker 5: mean they gathered all the fans gathered behind the ESPN

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Speaker 5: set because Van Pelt was live on the field afterward,

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Speaker 5: similar to what Amazon does. Yeah, and you know they've

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Speaker 5: got players coming out. But like at one point they

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Speaker 5: break out into a Judy sucks chant and I'm like, hey, buddy,

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Speaker 5: not probably not the right chance. Kids think I think

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Speaker 5: your defense might suck. Yeah, but he got Levi Wallace.

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Speaker 4: But I mean if I was Riley Moss, but I

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Speaker 4: think he's only in the second year, I would be like,

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Speaker 4: back the bank up, back the truck up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm not there. And it was a disaster. Disaster, yeah,

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Speaker 2: total disaster.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was fun to see. It was

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Speaker 3: fun to see a receiver doing that. And we've done

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Speaker 3: it now, you know, two straight Decembers. He had Amri

837
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Speaker 3: last year with the game he had with Joe and

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Speaker 3: now this game.

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Speaker 4: For Jamis has two of the top eight passing games

840
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Speaker 4: in franchise history. The guys Joe have five games three

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Speaker 4: I don't know, because Jameis has had explosions.

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00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 2: Let's look we look at Flacco's game log. Definitely got

843
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Speaker 2: a couple of them.

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Speaker 4: What it was his biggest game from a yard standpoint,

845
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 4: he has three hundred at half. Yeah, but he didn't

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Speaker 4: end up with I think he ended up crazy in

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Speaker 4: then let's.

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Speaker 3: Say was that at Houston we had three hundred and

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Speaker 3: half twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 5: Here we go.

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Speaker 4: So he had three seventy four and three sixty eight

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Speaker 4: Chicago and Houston and that Jets game he ended up

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Speaker 4: with only three h nine.

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Speaker 2: Like games he had three hundred and a half. Yeah,

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00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 2: three seventy four, three sixty eight. So they're on there.

856
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 2: So those two are on there.

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Speaker 4: If Jamis has two of the top eight and his

858
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Speaker 4: second one is he's got see Jameis has three ninety

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Speaker 4: five and four ninety seven, So maybe not maybe not.

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Speaker 2: No Joe, maybe on the outside looking in. Jeez, it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Three ninety four ninety seven. That's a video game.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, so Flacco's best performance, it would be good for

863
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Speaker 11: fifteenth single game all time.

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Speaker 2: Fifteenth. Yeah, there's US two eight two in the top eight. Jeez.

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Speaker 4: And this actually toecillianis it didn't even need to look

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Speaker 4: it up. He knew from but Bernie through I guess

867
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Speaker 4: for four eighty nine in a playoff game. So this

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Speaker 4: was the regular season record was Josh McCown in overtime

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Speaker 4: in Baltimore in twenty fifteen. Ye, but Bernie in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Let's see.

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Speaker 4: He said, I don't even need to fact check it

872
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Speaker 4: because I remember it like it was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Four fourteen is the best that I see from a Wait,

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Speaker 2: that's regular season, old police, ye old, please hold on

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Speaker 2: a four see postseason.

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Speaker 4: I have a feeling, Andrew, would I feel like he's

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Speaker 4: got to be one hundred percent for eighty nine on

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Speaker 4: the dot against the Jets.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. Yeah, yeah, there's no doubt in my mind. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: He was like, don't even have verify it for eighty nine.

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Speaker 4: So he has the record for most yards ever thrown

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Speaker 4: by someone in a clean Brown's uniform.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's amazing.

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Speaker 3: And Jerry had himself a night nine for two thirty

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Speaker 3: five and a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thirteen targets should have been three hundred. Jamie should thrown

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Speaker 4: for almost six hundred. Yeah, that was an eighty nine arner.

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Speaker 5: We didn't.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we got any more yards at drive.

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Speaker 2: It was eighty nine. So yeah, I mean he was

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Speaker 2: a wide open.

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Speaker 6: Broncos have a second and four Browns territory forty yard

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Speaker 6: line and Nix has the shotgun stop under pressure, Miles

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Speaker 6: hit him, ball thrown knocked, but they are picked off.

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Speaker 6: Newsom Craig Newsom has it at the.

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Speaker 7: Browns thirty one yard line.

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Speaker 6: Miles brought the pressure hit Nick says he threw into

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Speaker 6: traffic and nus and pulled it out of the air.

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Speaker 2: Who cut that?

909
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Speaker 5: This might be my favorite part of the show right now?

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Speaker 2: Who cut that?

911
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 5: Because the look in the audible that came out at

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Speaker 5: his boss has it played?

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Speaker 2: And you turned around?

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Speaker 5: I was like, perfect, Gabe, that's a perfect highlight.

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Speaker 2: Gabriel Man Gabriel little boy.

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Speaker 4: You let it breathe just a little bit, but enough

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Speaker 4: I did. Let I let it breathe plenty on that.

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Speaker 4: But then I was gonna give bo everything he wanted.

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Speaker 4: Coming off of that, I mentioned that was his league

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Speaker 4: leading nineteenth PBu, that that was he's playing like a

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Speaker 4: first team.

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Speaker 2: We're looking for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I gave Denzel out of the credit that you

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Speaker 4: wouldn't have necessarily been able to gather from the in

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Speaker 4: the moment, and that's, you know, provide the color.

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Speaker 2: But Gabriel, Gabriel a black and white world. Apparently, I

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Speaker 2: thought we talked about this last week.

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Speaker 4: Man, he's not the g man anymore. It's Gabriel. It's Gabriel.

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Speaker 4: Now it's loyalty. Now you can come, you can come back.

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, we'll see if he can get there.

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Speaker 2: Look Atide, I don't I don't know if he's I

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Speaker 2: don't know if he's looking at me with like's. I

933
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Speaker 2: think he's hurt. Anger, I think he's hurt. He's broken.

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Speaker 2: All right, let me ask let me ask you another question.

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Speaker 5: God, too many things, young Gabriel, Young Gabriel, do you

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Speaker 5: when you when you're cutting it?

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Speaker 4: Are you just is the mindset. We don't want any

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Speaker 4: of the girl in there. So as soon as the

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Speaker 4: siliano's done, cut or do you listen to what I

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Speaker 4: have to say and add and decide that I'm listened

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Speaker 4: and I don't like it?

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Speaker 2: Cut?

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Speaker 11: Well for rejoins, I don't go into the game and

944
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Speaker 11: cut it whole. What is in the share drive?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, sounds like somebody just likes to do the bare

946
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Speaker 4: minimum and not create original beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Don't look at me because it wasn't.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, if you want me to, I will start making

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Speaker 11: every rejoin just you.

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Speaker 2: No, that's not what I want. I just wanted, especially

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Speaker 2: because that was an opportunity that wanted.

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Speaker 5: I want rejoins that have no siciliano play by play.

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Speaker 2: No, it's a team, that's why we It is a

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Speaker 2: rich tapestry.

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Speaker 4: I I I definitely there were I had a couple

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Speaker 4: that you could have put in there that would have

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Speaker 4: been standalones where I had some funny baby, I'll do

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Speaker 4: the play, And.

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Speaker 2: Then some of them aren't even about They're not even

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Speaker 2: about plays, don't even need to be the young the

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Speaker 2: young boy dressed as a horse running out to get

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Speaker 2: the They put a guy in a horse out it

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Speaker 2: Ken and he's wearing like a horse head.

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Speaker 5: He runs and gets the te I mean he might

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Speaker 5: have been three or four. I think it was get

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Speaker 5: the tea and the whole stadium erupted.

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Speaker 2: I loved it really good. That's a cool stadium they

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Speaker 2: I saw it.

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Speaker 3: I guess I was unaware that they have that horse

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Speaker 3: Blucifer like their own version of it, spinning fire on

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Speaker 3: top of the stadium.

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Speaker 5: I did not notice that until last night either. I

973
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Speaker 5: was like, wait a minute, where did that comeing?

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Speaker 2: Not just the no like now now the white guy,

975
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Speaker 2: but it also shoots, yes, the same guy, same guy.

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Speaker 2: I don't like that. Yeah, Blucifer. I don't even look

977
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Speaker 2: at him him. Thanks terrifying. No part of it.

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Speaker 5: Stupid airport in the middle of it is awful.

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Speaker 3: I wonder if they thought at one point it would

980
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Speaker 3: like would the city move out that way or what?

981
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Speaker 2: But it's just a mess.

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't know. And it's one of the

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Speaker 5: only cities we have to go through like t s

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Speaker 5: A before we get.

985
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Speaker 2: On the plane.

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Speaker 9: Oh why International, So then we have to walk through

987
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Speaker 9: a hangar and then it's literally like a tenth of

988
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Speaker 9: a mile walk on the tarmac We're literally walking.

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Speaker 5: There's like there's vehicles coming by. I'm like, are we

990
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Speaker 5: safe out here? Like I have to get to that

991
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Speaker 5: and that plane is not close to where I currently am.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things around the sports world.

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Speaker 3: A Z's al Shaer has been suspended three games for

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Speaker 3: his hit on Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence. It is second

995
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Speaker 3: such hit that he has done and not surprising at all.

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Speaker 4: Not surprising in the least. I thought that they were

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Speaker 4: going to make a statement. I thought I understand what

998
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Speaker 4: demecha Ryan's was doing and obviously knows him from their

999
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Speaker 4: day's night, But like I was surprised.

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Speaker 2: That he didn't.

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Speaker 4: They kind of put it on quarterbacks, and I do

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Speaker 4: think there's some balance that needs to be reached there.

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Speaker 4: But we see quarterbacks slide hundreds of times in NFL

1004
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Speaker 4: Sunday and we don't see that. I mean, and watching

1005
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Speaker 4: if you watching real speed, understand how bang bang it was.

1006
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Speaker 4: But at the same time, that's fine. That is still

1007
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Speaker 4: I it And really I saw it happen. Every time

1008
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Speaker 4: I was like, whoa.

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Speaker 2: It saysn't it's not even the I mean, it's it's

1010
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Speaker 2: the hit, it's the forum and then afterwards fighting and

1011
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 2: throwing people down, and he's unfortunately got a long history

1012
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 2: of fines and I think that was his third unnecessary

1013
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Speaker 2: roughness of this season alone.

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Speaker 4: You know, It's kind of like in the NBA when

1015
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Speaker 4: you start getting racking up Flagrance and they do something.

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Speaker 4: I think they wanted some domestic because that one was

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Speaker 4: I mean that was terrifying.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes it was the Niners. I actually had to

1019
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Speaker 3: so I drafted McCaffrey number one overall in the one

1020
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Speaker 3: fantasy league that matters for me. And now he's done

1021
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Speaker 3: for the year, and so we were smart enough to

1022
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Speaker 3: pick up Jordan Mason right away, and he's been really good.

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Speaker 3: And now we get the news that Jordan Mason is

1024
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Speaker 3: placed on IR. I don't even know who's next. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I picked up whoever is next. I picked him up

1026
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Speaker 3: because why not at this point, I assume that he'll

1027
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Speaker 3: get twenty carries in eighty seven yards and two touchdowns.

1028
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Speaker 3: But it's like, it's just you can only have so

1029
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Speaker 3: many injuries, and they're well passed, well passed, well passed. Honestly,

1030
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Speaker 3: would this might really benefit them? Though, because all of

1031
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Speaker 3: a sudden, Matt Roster comes back healthy and I understanding

1032
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Speaker 3: they have some cap stuff. That roster comes back pretty healthy,

1033
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Speaker 3: and now you're drafting high in the first and second round.

1034
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Speaker 3: That could be a big time bonus. Freddy Kitchens will

1035
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Speaker 3: be a head coach again. He'll be the interim coach

1036
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Speaker 3: of the North Carolina football team after mac Brown and

1037
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Speaker 3: the university parted ways before the team's lost to NC

1038
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Speaker 3: State on rivalry weekend. I did not recall that Freddy

1039
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Speaker 3: was at North Carolina. I thought he's at South Carolina.

1040
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Speaker 5: In the year when there was some reports that Carolina

1041
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,919
Speaker 5: that mc brown was going to step down, his name

1042
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 5: popped up. We were all like, Frederico amazing. You know

1043
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 5: how much I hate North Carolina, but now I might

1044
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Speaker 5: have to No.

1045
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Speaker 2: You love Freddy.

1046
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Speaker 5: I love Freddy.

1047
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Speaker 3: I mean all those years in Arizona, like tight ends

1048
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 3: coach had the stability, all those things comes here tight

1049
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: end coach, heer ends up being the head coach and

1050
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 3: then it's just bounced all over hip. Yeah, that's a

1051
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 3: tough business. Correctly so, art Model will not be considered

1052
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: for the Pro Football Hall of Fame in the contributor

1053
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Speaker 3: category and for Houston fans, but Adams won't either either.

1054
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 2: One of those guys will be considered.

1055
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Speaker 3: I do think it's odd that Jarah gets in and

1056
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Speaker 3: Bob Kraft can't.

1057
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Speaker 2: I guess it's spight.

1058
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 3: Is it just still spygate to Flake Gates spie?

1059
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Speaker 2: Like, how does Jerah get in and Bob doesn't?

1060
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 4: There's definitely Larry David couldn't have a field day with

1061
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:43,240
Speaker 4: the Spike stores that exist in the National Football League.

1062
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, isn't that weird?

1063
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: I mean, like, I mean, listen their spie against it.

1064
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Speaker 4: He spided Belichick.

1065
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Speaker 2: If we're to believe.

1066
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Speaker 4: They calls to Atlanta, right, I wonder if they wish

1067
00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: they had Belichick down there, right?

1068
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Speaker 2: I bet they probably do.

1069
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, second hour of the program is next.

1070
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Speaker 3: We will lead it off with the Joe Thomas half

1071
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Speaker 3: hour of the program. It listen to Cleveland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 6: Juty alone to the short side right now, he's going

1076
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Speaker 6: to motion and set upon the numbers. Jamis waiting for it.

1077
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Speaker 6: Has it looking right looking? Looking bluffing back quarter?

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Speaker 8: Good?

1079
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Speaker 7: Joku? Does he have it touchdown. He's second of the game.

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1085
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Speaker 3: Zee and I kind of gave our perspective Hoff on

1089
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: what it was like watching this one. We kind of

1090
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Speaker 3: settled on, Yeah, it would have been nice to win,

1091
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Speaker 3: but at least it was fun. Where was your head

1092
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 3: watching what you saw last night?

1093
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Speaker 10: Great minds, think alike, boys, because that's exactly what I

1094
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Speaker 10: was thinking. Like, my biggest complaint early in the season

1095
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 10: was that it was just not fun to watch. Trust me,

1096
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 10: I've just through plenty of Browns losing, plenty of seasons

1097
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 10: where I was on that field and we were losing games.

1098
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 10: But there were times that was fun. But at least

1099
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 10: you felt like you were going out and you were

1100
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 10: making some entertainment on the field. Things were happening. Where

1101
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 10: As a fan it was worth watching, it was exciting,

1102
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 10: and this beginning of the season it was just not

1103
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 10: fun to watch. It wasn't fun being a fan. It

1104
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,479
Speaker 10: was disappointing. You didn't need expectations, it was all those things.

1105
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 10: But last night you just again with Jamis, you just

1106
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 10: got to forget about everything that had happened up to

1107
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 10: this point and you just got to watch a fun

1108
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 10: game with a shootout, with guys making plays, taking risks.

1109
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 10: It was fun. My son did not want to go

1110
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 10: to bed last night. I mean it was like nine

1111
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 10: thirty and he's just been sick the last two days,

1112
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 10: but he didn't want to leave the TV. And you know,

1113
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 10: we're not going to make the playoffs, but let's at

1114
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 10: least be fun the rest of the season.

1115
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was fun, And of course it is

1116
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 4: disappointing that you lost the game, but the reality of

1117
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,280
Speaker 4: the situation, if I was saying earlier, if this game

1118
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 4: was for you know, we had the same record as them,

1119
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: and the winner was going to be after this game

1120
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,680
Speaker 4: the seventh seed in the playoffs. It's a totally different

1121
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 4: feeling after, but unfortunately that wasn't the reality of this

1122
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 4: situation and this season for the Cleveland Browns, and so

1123
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 4: in many ways, you kind of got everything you wanted.

1124
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 4: You got clear signs of what can be not only

1125
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 4: in the present but in the future in terms of

1126
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: what your receiving core can be, what Jerry Judy can be,

1127
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: what Jameis Winston frankly can be for you as a quarterback,

1128
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 4: should he, you know, be a member of this Cleveland

1129
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: Browns franchise beyond this year, and I think he's making

1130
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 4: a strong case to be, so, you know, and you

1131
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: also didn't hurt what's coming after this season, which as

1132
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 4: soon as the season ends, everything is onto trying to

1133
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,239
Speaker 4: put together the best team in twenty twenty five, and

1134
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 4: we haven't had a first round pick in a long time,

1135
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,360
Speaker 4: and having that first round pick towards the top of

1136
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 4: that first round will be very, very important because that

1137
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: means your second round pick is at the top and

1138
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 4: your third round and you have an opportunity maybe to

1139
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 4: bring in some young talent on those rookie contracts, which

1140
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 4: is going to be huge given you know, our our

1141
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: salary cap situation and everything going forward. So that's kind

1142
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,799
Speaker 4: of where I came out with it. Like I would

1143
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 4: have loved to have won the game. It would have

1144
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 4: been awesome. Playing spoilers great and I know that the

1145
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 4: Denver Broncos have been a thorn in the side of

1146
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 4: Browns fans for a very long time. But you got

1147
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: a lot of confirmation about a lot of things last

1148
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 4: night that are very very positive and also didn't necessarily

1149
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 4: hurt the future. For what is a present that is

1150
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 4: tough to you know, really understand where you are.

1151
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, what do you want the rest

1152
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 10: of the seasons? You want to learn about the guys

1153
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 10: that you have and the guys that potentially are going

1154
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 10: to be around here next year, and you want it

1155
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 10: to be fun. It was both of those things last night.

1156
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 10: I think it was one of those games where most

1157
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 10: other fans outside of Cleveland and Denver were thinking, I

1158
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 10: don't know if I want to stay up and watch this,

1159
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 10: but if they started watching, I guarantee they watched at

1160
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 10: the end because it was a fun game and that's

1161
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 10: what the Browns have been under Jamis Winston, and I

1162
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 10: think that's the best thing we can say going forward.

1163
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 10: Let's learn more about our players, the guys that are

1164
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 10: going to be here, the guys that maybe we need

1165
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 10: to replace. And I thought we did a lot of

1166
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 10: that last night. We had a tremendous growth out of

1167
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 10: the receiving corps. I mean, Elijah Moore's shown that he's

1168
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 10: got potential to be a big time guy. Jerry Judy

1169
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 10: obviously had one of the great performances from any receiver

1170
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 10: in a Browns uniform of all time. And you got

1171
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 10: a guy now in Jamis who's a lot of fun

1172
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,879
Speaker 10: and maybe fits his way in somewhere with this team

1173
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 10: next season.

1174
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 4: You have to wonder if the people at Amazon are saying,

1175
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 4: maybe we messed up Brown Bengals right now has the

1176
00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 4: potential it feels like to be like a fifty to

1177
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 4: fifty Yeah, just barn Burner, I mean, and so far

1178
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 4: in prime time, we've delivered two spectacular games, the Steelers

1179
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: game and this one.

1180
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 2: We're spectacular.

1181
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, there's no question. Yeah, it certainly would be entertaining.

1182
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 3: Hoff have you what you've seen from Jamis since he's

1183
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 3: been in and what the offense has done with him

1184
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,760
Speaker 3: at quarterback? Does it make you think about next year

1185
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 3: and if Jamis could be more than just a fun

1186
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 3: ride at the end of the season, but perhaps a

1187
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: guy who could be here to start next year and

1188
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 3: maybe even beyond.

1189
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 10: I definitely would like to have him in the mix.

1190
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 10: I think one of the things that Brown's management has

1191
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 10: made clear in the last few weeks is that there's

1192
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:48,080
Speaker 10: going to be some type of a quarterback competition going

1193
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 10: into the season next year, and I would certainly love

1194
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 10: to have Jamis there. I think he's a guy that

1195
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 10: is a good locker room guy. Obviously, guys like to

1196
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 10: play with him. Guys will play for him. The receivers,

1197
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 10: they will play hard and run their routes the right

1198
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 10: way because they know that, hey, if I even a

1199
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 10: little bit open, the ball is gonna come my way.

1200
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 10: And so I think he would really do a good

1201
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 10: job if he was in the mix to potentially win

1202
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 10: that starting job. And I think he's proven that he

1203
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 10: can also, if he doesn't win it, be a very

1204
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 10: good soldier in the locker room as a backup quarterback

1205
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 10: and then be very serviceable and win you a lot

1206
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 10: of games potentially if he has to step into the

1207
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 10: starting role, if he was going to be that backup.

1208
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 10: So I think that the good is that he has

1209
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 10: proven that he's still Jamis Winston and he's still going

1210
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 10: to throw his picks to the other team. So nobody's

1211
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 10: going to swoop in probably and pay him thirty million

1212
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,959
Speaker 10: a year to be their starter somewhere else. So there's

1213
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 10: a chance that we could find a way to make

1214
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,880
Speaker 10: it fit under our salary cap and still have him

1215
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 10: around even if he is a backup quarterback. So maybe

1216
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 10: there's some silver lining there with him being Jamis only

1217
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 10: more so than this game and instead of being the

1218
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 10: guy that's got thirty thirty touchdowns and only a couple interceptions.

1219
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 10: So I think that maybe that serves us well next season.

1220
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 10: But I definitely think that the fans be on board,

1221
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 10: and it seems like the players be on board to

1222
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 10: keep them around for next season.

1223
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he said it's fun. It certainly is a fun thing.

1224
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 4: And I want to get your take on this because

1225
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 4: something we've talked about it before, but I thought it

1226
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 4: was on full display again last night. And one is

1227
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 4: just the subtle pocket movement of Jameis Winston. Sometimes it's

1228
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 4: not so subtles able to climb up, get out kind

1229
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 4: of at those forty five degree angles, eyes downfield and

1230
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 4: make plays. And it also just feels like the line

1231
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 4: has such a better understanding of where he will be

1232
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 4: at all times that it's really kind of creating a

1233
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 4: situation where we're getting better protection and the and lanes

1234
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 4: at least escape lanes to get out and make plays.

1235
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Or is that what you're seeing too? Yeah?

1236
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 10: I totally agree. And I think one of the things

1237
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 10: I really like about Jamis is when his first or

1238
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 10: second read is not there and he feels like he's

1239
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 10: got to move in the pocket, he doesn't take one

1240
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 10: hand off the ball, right. He really does a good

1241
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 10: job of kind of rolling his shoulders forward. He puts

1242
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 10: that ball in that power position, kind of like a

1243
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 10: basketball player, you know, in that triple threat position where hey,

1244
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 10: even if somebody is going to come down with the

1245
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 10: tomahawk and try to get that ball out, like, he's

1246
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 10: got a firm grasp on that ball while he's keeping

1247
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 10: his eyes down the field and using the peripheral vision

1248
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:23,040
Speaker 10: to be able to find space to move in the

1249
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 10: pocket or potentially escape the pocket. And then as soon

1250
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 10: as he gets out, now boom, Now he's looking down

1251
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 10: the field. And I think that's made him pretty dangerous

1252
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 10: and one of the reasons why defensive coordinators probably staying

1253
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:35,919
Speaker 10: up at night before they have to face him because

1254
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 10: they're going, man, he does a good job moving in

1255
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 10: the pocket, keeps his eyes down the field, and if

1256
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:42,919
Speaker 10: we don't, if we sent a blitz and don't get home,

1257
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 10: like he's letting it rip for fifty sixty yards.

1258
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: Down the field.

1259
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 10: So it's a really really high risk, high reward proposition

1260
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 10: to try to blitz the guy. And so I think

1261
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 10: he's made himself from a technique and a discipline standpoint

1262
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 10: as far as pocket movement, going through his and his progressions,

1263
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 10: I think he's really done a good job like sharpening

1264
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 10: and honing up on his technique all those years as

1265
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 10: a backup in New Orleans and then now being later

1266
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 10: in his career, he really does a great job with

1267
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 10: those little movements in the pocket. And now if you

1268
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 10: could only just cut down on some of those bad

1269
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 10: decisions where he just trusts his arm a little bit

1270
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 10: too much. But I guess that's part of.

1271
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: The fun I had.

1272
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 3: My middle brother was he was in his early thirties

1273
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: at the time. He's dating a woman in her early

1274
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 3: thirties as well, and he said he goes Man's she is,

1275
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: she does this, this is perfect, this, this and this,

1276
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 3: and he goes. He goes, but this's just this one thing.

1277
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 3: And I said, well, buddy, that's it's a really big thing.

1278
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 3: And I said, the other thing about it is is

1279
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 3: she's fully formed and James is fully formed. So it's

1280
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 3: all of this, it's all of it. He makes you

1281
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 3: defend every blade of grass. He gives you a shot always.

1282
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 3: He's fun as hell to play with. As evidence by

1283
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 3: what we're doing offensively, the guys like block them for him.

1284
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 3: He's an incredibly genuine individual. The person that that you

1285
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 3: see folks on TV is the same person who's here

1286
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 3: in the morning, same person who leaves at night. He's

1287
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 3: often the first time here, he's often the last to leave.

1288
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 3: That's his operation. But he will also throw it to

1289
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 3: the other team and he'll put the ball in harm's

1290
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 3: way a lot. Last night there were three picks, there

1291
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 3: were there were a lot that were in the vicinity

1292
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 3: of trouble.

1293
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 4: Sure, and so that that's he's fully formed. Yeah, this

1294
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: is what you get. I do think that it is.

1295
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 4: It's enough, and I'll take it. By the way, this

1296
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 4: is much better. I take I think if we were

1297
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 4: fully formed on defense, which we are not obviously, I

1298
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 4: do think we could this could be a very winning

1299
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 4: brand of football for the Cleveland Browns. And and you

1300
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 4: want him it really for the majority of the game.

1301
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: It was four hundred and four and one pick. It

1302
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 4: was a throw you can't miss inside on a on

1303
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 4: an outward thinking route, and he just it was just

1304
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,600
Speaker 4: a bad throw that got away from him. At the end,

1305
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 4: You're trying to make a play and you know, I

1306
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 4: probably should have loft at it. But I like what

1307
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 4: I'm seeing from a man too, and I also like

1308
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 4: what I'm seeing from Ken Dorsey and watching it last night,

1309
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 4: what I noticed was a lot of the motions. There

1310
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 4: were a lot I felt a lot more pre snap

1311
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 4: motion than perhaps we had earlier in the year, and

1312
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 4: a lot they weren't. They weren't necessarily eye dress or

1313
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 4: eye candy motions. I thought a lot of them were

1314
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 4: to try to either create movement at the second level

1315
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 4: and they thus, you know, change the rushing the run

1316
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 4: defense gaps and try to get things that way, but

1317
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 4: also just to create some last second confusion and force

1318
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 4: quick communication. And then also to give you some of

1319
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 4: those pre snap you know, man Zone tells and I

1320
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 4: thought it was masterful. I mean, you go back to

1321
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 4: Nick Chub touchdown when we come out and those three

1322
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 4: tight ends go out to the right. All of a

1323
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 4: sudden there's the Broncos kind of don't know what's going on,

1324
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 4: and then nobody ends up covering Nick Chubb. That play

1325
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 4: was over before you know, even snapped the ball.

1326
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's fun to watch Dorsey's offense and see how

1327
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,440
Speaker 10: he's kind of morphed a little bit to try to

1328
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 10: accommodate the things that Jamis does really well. And I'm

1329
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 10: gonna use the I don't know, maybe it's just that

1330
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 10: time of years, just how we are as fans, but

1331
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 10: I'm wondering allowed to myself, like, hey, is this a

1332
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 10: winning formula? Like obviously we understand there's going to be

1333
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 10: some turnovers, but can we buy the type of offense

1334
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 10: we run minimize some of that and then because of

1335
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 10: who Jamis is, right, you probably don't have to pay

1336
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 10: him as much as a Tier one or tier two quarterback.

1337
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 10: You know, could you get good enough play from him

1338
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 10: with a really good defense and a better running game

1339
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 10: because the running game really hasn't been all that good

1340
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 10: at any point this season, like, can you be more

1341
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 10: of an under center play action like not ask Jamis

1342
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 10: to win every game and potentially put him into those

1343
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 10: situations where he is more likely to throw those interceptions

1344
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 10: with some easier you know, play action under center type

1345
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 10: stuff and a better run game and the defense that's

1346
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 10: maybe a little bit more fully formed, Like is that

1347
01:02:57,960 --> 01:02:59,840
Speaker 10: enough of a formula where you can live with some

1348
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 10: those interceptions because you're going to win the majority of

1349
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 10: games when you do those things, even with the interceptions.

1350
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,800
Speaker 4: Right now, See, your whole goal is you want to

1351
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 4: eliminate those things, but you don't want to take away

1352
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 4: what is the essence of what makes them so effective

1353
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 4: in the ability to throw the football. So it is

1354
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: a catchway too. And I think you're right, that's that's

1355
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 4: the question. Is a winning formula, I definitely think it

1356
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 4: can be. I still think there are things that need

1357
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 4: to be cleaned up, you know, on his side, and

1358
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 4: he would you know, he said that and ask for

1359
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,840
Speaker 4: some divine help afterwards from to be delivered from the

1360
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 4: pick sixes. And I think no, defensively, we have just

1361
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 4: been it feels like too many big plays yea, And

1362
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 4: we've been victimized to that, and it's really kind of

1363
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 4: been a theme for a few years now where we

1364
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:46,520
Speaker 4: have just kind of those big plays. And I'll tell

1365
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 4: you about that ninety three yarder to Mims on that

1366
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 4: side if we were playing the inverted cover too, that

1367
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,560
Speaker 4: it's just an unbelievable throw. I mean, that ball is

1368
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 4: exactly where it has to be at the exact moment

1369
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 4: it had to be right there. But if we can

1370
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 4: limit it, I definitely think it's a winning formula. You know,

1371
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 4: Jamis's I think played pretty well. Like if you told

1372
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 4: me half that we could be a team that's going

1373
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 4: to go out there and consistently be in the twenty

1374
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 4: four point range, Like, I think we're gonna win a

1375
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 4: lot of games, even if at times you do give

1376
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 4: the opponents a pick six or even a short field

1377
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 4: due to a turnover.

1378
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I think because it's just human nature to

1379
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 10: sort of reflect back on when you were a kid

1380
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 10: and you were maybe at the height of your fandom,

1381
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 10: and so for me it was in the mid nineties

1382
01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 10: when the Packers won their Super Bowl and they had

1383
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:33,360
Speaker 10: Farv and Homegroom and all these guys, and far through

1384
01:04:33,360 --> 01:04:35,360
Speaker 10: a lot of picks like he had a lot of

1385
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 10: Jamis in him. But it was a winning formula because

1386
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,600
Speaker 10: they had a good defense and defensive coordinators were so

1387
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 10: worried about Farv thrown for four hundred and five touchdowns

1388
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,960
Speaker 10: that they had to change their defensive scheme to try

1389
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 10: to take away some of those things. And it gave

1390
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 10: you a lot of easy completions. It gave you a

1391
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 10: lot of easy things that you could do to go

1392
01:04:57,880 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 10: down the field. And I mean they were very successful.

1393
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,240
Speaker 10: They wont to won a Super Bowl, they went to

1394
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 10: another one, and they had a tremendous run. So yeah,

1395
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm with you. Like, if let's just say

1396
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 10: going in the next season, Jamis is the starter. However,

1397
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 10: we get to that situation and he's got all training

1398
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 10: camp to work with his guys. Dorsey has all training

1399
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 10: camp and offseason to really look at everything that Jamis

1400
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 10: has done this season and say, all right, these are

1401
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,920
Speaker 10: the things that he does really, really well, and he

1402
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 10: has confidence in everything the defense does to him, and

1403
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 10: he has a low margin for throwing the ball potentially

1404
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 10: to the other team. And then ay, these are the

1405
01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 10: concepts that maybe are putting him in a situation where

1406
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 10: he's more likely to throw the ball to the other team, Like,

1407
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 10: can we see a better version next year than what

1408
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 10: we're seeing right now? And could it potentially be a

1409
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 10: winning formula, especially when you're sitting in a situation where

1410
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 10: if there's not an obvious answer, they'll get a quarterback

1411
01:05:56,520 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 10: in the draft. There's obviously the salary cap situations. Sean's

1412
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 10: still in her contract, Like, maybe this is the best option,

1413
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 10: and this potentially could be a winning option for next

1414
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 10: season because of an ability with Jamis to threaten defenses

1415
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 10: and make him cover every blade of grass. And when

1416
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 10: you have a full season with one guy, he's gonna

1417
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 10: get a little bit better and you're gonna understand the

1418
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 10: plays you want to call for him that he sees

1419
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 10: even better than the stuff maybe that we're putting in

1420
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 10: right now.

1421
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 3: Here's the minimum, fellas, And this is something that maybe

1422
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 3: we didn't see a month ago. We had thought that

1423
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 3: the only internal quarterback solution was Dorian Thompson Robinson, and

1424
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 3: that part has changed. His play sure has forced that

1425
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 3: change to where you can now open your eyes to

1426
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 3: another option, and quite honestly, a much more proven option

1427
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 3: and a much more high ceiling option for the immediate future.

1428
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 4: So when one that your receivers are like gonna say, yes,

1429
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 4: we want to play with with this guy.

1430
01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I gotta be honest with you. I and it.

1431
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 4: I liked Jamis so much, and in some ways it's

1432
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 4: both right and wrong. Right on one level, Jamis is

1433
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 4: proving to be, as you said, fully formed the good

1434
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 4: of Jameis, which is the guy who led the league

1435
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 4: in passing and the one overall pick. And then also

1436
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,440
Speaker 4: at times, you know, the backbreaking bad of Jameis and

1437
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:18,919
Speaker 4: we've seen that as well, and so you kind of knew,

1438
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 4: and I think our point was at the time, you

1439
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:24,360
Speaker 4: got to know what dtr is to happen idea, because

1440
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 4: he's in house's not a rookie contract for you for

1441
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 4: a couple of years, and we know that we were

1442
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 4: gonna have, you know, money issues at that in that

1443
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 4: position group obviously with Deshawn's contract. So yeah, but the

1444
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 4: way that he is playing the good has been so good,

1445
01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 4: and it has been so it's kind of have a

1446
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 4: rejuvenatory quality or aspect to it that is very important,

1447
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 4: and I think is allowed for Elijah to to blossom,

1448
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 4: for said Tilman to blossom, and for Jerry Judy to

1449
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,680
Speaker 4: be exactly what everybody's out he was gonna be when

1450
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 4: he was drafted out of Alabama, and that's a stud absolutely.

1451
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 2: All right, gentlemen, let's go one thought around this.

1452
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 3: We've spent a lot of time on Jamis, so let's

1453
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 3: go to Jerry Judy and let's start with the Hoff.

1454
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 3: Your impressions of what you saw out of Jerry Judy

1455
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 3: last night in Denver, Hoff, I.

1456
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,479
Speaker 10: Think he showed us all the potential that he has

1457
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 10: and what type of receiver he can be when he's

1458
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:29,600
Speaker 10: playing great football. He's highly motivated and he feels like

1459
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 10: he can get the football, and I think I wanted

1460
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 10: to piggyback off of what you guys are talking about.

1461
01:08:34,760 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 10: Real quick, go ahead, So here's my open conversation. Would

1462
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:44,080
Speaker 10: you rather have a quarterback as a receiver as one

1463
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 10: of the pass catchers, a quarterback that doesn't throw the

1464
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 10: ball because he's not sure and he holds onto it,

1465
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 10: or would you rather have a guy that just cuts

1466
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,480
Speaker 10: it loose all the time and some of them are interceptions,

1467
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 10: And I think you get a lot more out of

1468
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,680
Speaker 10: your pass catchers and they're willing to live with some

1469
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 10: of the mistakes and they're gonna play harder for you

1470
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,600
Speaker 10: if you got a quarterback that's cutting loose all the

1471
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 10: time rather than the guy that's afraid to throw it,

1472
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 10: and you got guys running wide open that he's not

1473
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 10: throwing the ball to. And I think that was some

1474
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 10: of the issues that we had with Judy and Elijah

1475
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 10: Moore in weeks and years past, because they were open,

1476
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 10: guys weren't throwing the ball. And so if I'm a

1477
01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,799
Speaker 10: receiver that's getting open and I'm not getting the football,

1478
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 10: I'm thinking, well, why should I run my next route

1479
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 10: super hard because I'm probably not gonna get the ball

1480
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 10: even if I do get open. So I do think

1481
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 10: that this version of quarterback play is a lot better

1482
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 10: for all of the skilled players and all the guys

1483
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 10: on offense because you can live with some of the mistakes,

1484
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 10: but it's hard to live with guys that are running

1485
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 10: wide open when the ball doesn't go to where it's

1486
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:43,200
Speaker 10: supposed to go.

1487
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 4: Well part of it too, and you talk to the

1488
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 4: receivers is it doesn't matter if you're the third progression.

1489
01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 4: You got to run every route like you're the first

1490
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 4: progression because the ball will come if that's where his

1491
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 4: eyes take him.

1492
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 2: And you're open, the ball will come.

1493
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 4: You go back to the Saints game, both touchdowns, Judy

1494
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,800
Speaker 4: was the third read, Elijah wh Or is a third read.

1495
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 2: So it keeps them.

1496
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 4: I think they're engaged, and they know he got three

1497
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 4: guys who had eight catches, two with nine in this game.

1498
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,519
Speaker 4: That's gonna get That's gonna get people engaged, and they

1499
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 4: are gonna be very, very happy to be to be

1500
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 4: running routes knowing that, Hey, I got a good chance

1501
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 4: to get the ball, and I got a chance to

1502
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 4: make big plays and I got a chance. And what

1503
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 4: it means ultimately is we have a better chance to win,

1504
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 4: and I have a better chance to get paid. And

1505
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 4: that's I think that's the reality of the league, the business.

1506
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 4: And by the way, Hoffro, I'm guessing everything that you

1507
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 4: just said. We're also describe to a certain extent the

1508
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 4: offensive line, right. I mean, they know where he's gonna be.

1509
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:34,840
Speaker 4: They know that the ball's coming out. He's not gonna

1510
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 4: hold it. He's not gonna drift in the pocket like

1511
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 4: it checks every box.

1512
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 2: It just does.

1513
01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: It's yeah, it all wins on that side of it.

1514
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,040
Speaker 3: Let me ask you about the offensive line play because

1515
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 3: that's one of the other things Gea wanted to hit on.

1516
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 3: The one thought, what are you seeing from the group

1517
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 3: now that this incarnation of it has played a couple

1518
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 3: of games.

1519
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:57,800
Speaker 10: Well, it's nice to see some of the guys coming

1520
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:01,000
Speaker 10: back and being healthy, you know, something we haven't really

1521
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 10: had most of the season. But I think Jack Conklin's

1522
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 10: playing great football, Wife Teller's playing good, Joel's still playing great.

1523
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 10: It's great to have Ethan Poseig back, Jermaineafetti being out there.

1524
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 10: You know, he's not a top level starter, but I

1525
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:16,000
Speaker 10: think he's doing a good job and they understand what

1526
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 10: they get because as a coach, you would much rather

1527
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 10: have a guy that's not quite as good of a player,

1528
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:25,280
Speaker 10: but you have consistency and you know what you're gonna get. So, hey,

1529
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 10: it's third and long. He's got a good pass rusher.

1530
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:28,920
Speaker 10: We've got to put somebody over there to chip him

1531
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 10: or the double team. That's okay, because now I know

1532
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 10: what I'm gonna have versus a guy that's up and down,

1533
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 10: and you really have no idea because the one time

1534
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 10: you leave them one on one, he does something stupid,

1535
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 10: gives up a sack, and then now we're spending double teams,

1536
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 10: and we're spending resources leaving some of our receivers in

1537
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 10: to double team for a guy who's plenty good enough

1538
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 10: to block the defensive end one on one, and so

1539
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 10: I think he gives you that consistency and steadiness that

1540
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,280
Speaker 10: an offensive coordinator likes at left tackle. And I think

1541
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 10: they did a great job blocking for Jamis last night.

1542
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 10: I thought Jack Conklin, it was really fun to watch him,

1543
01:12:01,320 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 10: you know, after all the injuries that he's had in

1544
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 10: the last few seasons, play great football, move around really well.

1545
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 10: I mean, I think he's one of the guys that

1546
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:12,120
Speaker 10: doesn't always look great getting off the line of scrimmage.

1547
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 10: He doesn't have like the picture perfect first couple kicks,

1548
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 10: but he always puts himself in perfect position. He's always

1549
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 10: in great balance and you can't go through him, and

1550
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 10: he's got strong hands and he locks down on guys,

1551
01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 10: and from a quarterback's perspective, to just know that you

1552
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,479
Speaker 10: always have space over there to the right side, it's

1553
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 10: a great feeling. And I think this offensive line is

1554
01:12:32,360 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 10: really doing a nice job, especially in the pass protection,

1555
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:38,400
Speaker 10: just settling in and being the line that we thought

1556
01:12:38,439 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 10: they'd be all season.

1557
01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:42,519
Speaker 4: I got to get your take on this. There was

1558
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,599
Speaker 4: a play that happened yesterday that I thought was incredible.

1559
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 4: Is Jerome Ford's long run and Ethan posk went from

1560
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 4: snapping the ball and whatever the protection of the scheme was,

1561
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:55,719
Speaker 4: I'm guessing he was pulling from center, but he snapped

1562
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 4: it and got out and picked off a blitzing nickel

1563
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 4: from the right side. Who's blitzing off the right edge

1564
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 4: and he picked that up and that created the lane

1565
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 4: and Ford I think at the longest front the day

1566
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 4: is maybe nineteen yards something like that. I mean for

1567
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 4: a center, and he's a big center. Ethan Postic is

1568
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 4: a big, big man. I thought that was an incredible play.

1569
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was an awesome play. And I hope we

1570
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 10: get to break that one down on Nexus and Joe's

1571
01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,040
Speaker 10: because I think that was a masterful play by Ken

1572
01:13:19,080 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 10: Dorsey the way it was dialed up. So I'd love

1573
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 10: to watch that play again in the film Move with Uz.

1574
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 10: But it was so cool because it was a center trap.

1575
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,400
Speaker 10: Noted it was a center trap. Yeah, make a note

1576
01:13:29,439 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 10: on that one. And so for a center to be

1577
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 10: able to snap the football, go backwards, get around your

1578
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 10: guard and then kick out somebody that's blitzing from the edge.

1579
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 10: That's tough. I mean, that's something that like Pro Bowl

1580
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 10: type centers are able to do, and usually big guys

1581
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 10: don't have the hip mobility to be able to get

1582
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 10: that done. But obviously it was a huge play. It

1583
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 10: was well timed, and when you've got a center that

1584
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 10: can move like that, that is what Kevin Stefanski and

1585
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 10: Ken Dorsey have always really liked. To be able to

1586
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 10: run some of those pin pull type concepts, catch teams

1587
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 10: and bad defenses, man coverage, blitz of things like that,

1588
01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 10: where you can take advantage of a seam or a

1589
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 10: gap that's not covered. That's huge for a team. And

1590
01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 10: to be able to get explosive plays in the run

1591
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 10: game is so important, especially when you got a quarterback

1592
01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 10: that does like to wing it and throw the ball

1593
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 10: down the field. Because now you've got an offensive or

1594
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 10: defensive coordinator going, all right, we can't give up the

1595
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 10: big play in the passing game, but oh crap, we're

1596
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 10: giving up big plays in the run game too, And

1597
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 10: so they don't really know what to call, they don't

1598
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 10: know what to lean on in those situations. So I

1599
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 10: think for us to utilize a little bit more of

1600
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 10: that pin pull running concept type stuff. To be able

1601
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 10: to hit some of these gaps and get some explosive runs,

1602
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 10: I think would be a big step for this offense.

1603
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:41,799
Speaker 10: And it'd be great to see that next week.

1604
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,120
Speaker 3: If you had some comments last night on the quarterback

1605
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 3: slide issue which cropped up over the weekend, on the

1606
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 3: hit that Trevor Lawrence took, elaborate if you would, sir,

1607
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 3: on what you witnessed, and maybe a fix that would

1608
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 3: make sense for everybody.

1609
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 10: Yeah, So this is something that I've been thinking about

1610
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,400
Speaker 10: for a few years now and it really bugs me.

1611
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 10: It's almost like a flop in basketball, and they've obviously

1612
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 10: tried to get the flops out of the game because

1613
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 10: it was getting pretty egregious. And I think the quarterback

1614
01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 10: slide and the quarterbacks fake like you're going to go

1615
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,519
Speaker 10: out of bounds, it's something that's gotten a little egregious,

1616
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,960
Speaker 10: and naturally, if the referees in the NFL are not

1617
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 10: going to take a hard line stance on ay of this,

1618
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 10: and they keep just saying, hey, protect the quarterback, protect

1619
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 10: the quarterback, quarterbacks have continued to just push it a

1620
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 10: little further and further before they slide, and a lot

1621
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 10: of times the slide is happening at the very last

1622
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:39,200
Speaker 10: second because they're trying to steal every half yard, every

1623
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 10: foot that they can on the field before they slide

1624
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 10: or before they try to run out of bounds. And

1625
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 10: we've even seen Mahomes and Josh Allen act like they're

1626
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 10: about to go out of bounds and then quick run

1627
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:49,680
Speaker 10: a couple more steps up the field and then go

1628
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 10: out of bounds. And defensive players are put in such

1629
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,320
Speaker 10: a buying because they don't know, Hey, I know I

1630
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 10: can't hit the quarterback, but at the same time, if

1631
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,559
Speaker 10: he's a runner, I got to get him down. Well,

1632
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 10: he looks like he's gonna slide, he looks like going

1633
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,360
Speaker 10: to run a bounds. I got to layoff. And it's

1634
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 10: become very difficult for defensive players to be able to

1635
01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 10: know exactly, Hey, when should I hit the guy or

1636
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,080
Speaker 10: when should I just do nothing and let him slide.

1637
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 10: And the slide originally was put into the rule book

1638
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 10: to completely protect quarterbacks and a way for quarterbacks when

1639
01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 10: they're in the open field to give themselves up well

1640
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 10: before they even have a situation where they're almost going

1641
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,840
Speaker 10: to come in contact with a defensive player, but now

1642
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 10: they're forced to split hairs on at the very last second,

1643
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 10: these quarterbacks are running right up into their legs and

1644
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 10: then it's almost sliding into them. And I think it's

1645
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 10: put in a game that happens at one hundred miles

1646
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 10: an hour all over the field, and now with quarterbacks

1647
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 10: being as athletic as they are, it's to the point

1648
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,640
Speaker 10: right now where it's too difficult for defenders to consistently

1649
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 10: get their job done on do I need to tackle

1650
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 10: the quarterback or do I need to lay off? And

1651
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 10: the NFL needs to one have a penalty fifteen yard

1652
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 10: unsportsman like if you fake thot or if you think

1653
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 10: like you're going to go out of bounds and then

1654
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 10: you try to truck somebody or you try to steal

1655
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,160
Speaker 10: some extra yardage, And they need to start enforcing the

1656
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 10: rule that's in the rule book that says the moment

1657
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 10: you start to slide at all, that's where the ball

1658
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 10: is down. It's not as soon as your leg goes

1659
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,759
Speaker 10: out or when your knee is down, Like the second

1660
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,639
Speaker 10: you start to slide, you're down. And they also need

1661
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 10: to make it a point of emphasis that if you're

1662
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 10: a quarterback and you're going to slide, it has to

1663
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 10: happen well before you're even close to a defender. Otherwise

1664
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 10: that defender feels like you're a runner and he needs

1665
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 10: to get you down, and what that'll happen. The consequence

1666
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 10: of all this happening now, if they make that a

1667
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 10: point of emphasis, is going to be we're not going

1668
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 10: to have those situations that awful, ugly situation that we

1669
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 10: saw with Trevor Lawrence this weekend where a defender was

1670
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 10: coming in and Trevor was not sliding real late, but

1671
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 10: he was still sliding as he got close to that defender.

1672
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 10: And now the defender has already started making the tackle,

1673
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 10: and now he asked to at the last second try

1674
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 10: to roll his body out of the way to not

1675
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 10: hit the quarter back at all. If they're sliding well

1676
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 10: before that even happens, we're not gonna have these situations

1677
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 10: where we're getting personal files because the defensive players are

1678
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 10: hitting the quarterback, because it's happening so far before the

1679
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 10: defense that it doesn't become an issue anymore.

1680
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 4: That I agree with a great deal of that, Hoff

1681
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 4: I do think, like when you watch this one, if

1682
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,280
Speaker 4: he was initiating the tackle, Why is he going that

1683
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 4: low anyway? And whyse forearming a guy in the head.

1684
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:28,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I think that this one. We see guy

1685
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 4: slide all the time. This is a one in a million.

1686
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 4: I don't know the last time I saw somebody slide

1687
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,679
Speaker 4: and get crushed like that, So I think it does happen.

1688
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 4: I was just saying to I'm with you, I think

1689
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 4: you need to penalize anything that mimics either stepping out,

1690
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 4: you know, trying to slide. The stepping out of bounds

1691
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 4: parts hard because position players do that all the time.

1692
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,559
Speaker 4: But I was saying with bo joking, kind of half joking,

1693
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 4: you know, are we gonna get the point where like

1694
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 4: a quarterback's just run in, he just has to wave

1695
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 4: his hand like it's a fair catch, and that's it

1696
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,600
Speaker 4: plays dead as soon as he waves his hand, you

1697
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

1698
01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 2: I do get.

1699
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 4: I sympathize as somebody who has had the great pleasure

1700
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 4: and privilege to watch, you know, one hundred football games

1701
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,520
Speaker 4: at least more than that from the sideline.

1702
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: I believe me.

1703
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 4: I appreciate how quickly things happen, and I don't it's

1704
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 4: hard to even have it come through on television I

1705
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 4: do think that we all kind of know though with

1706
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 4: the eye test. It's kind of like certain rules, right,

1707
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 4: Is that a catch? Like everybody knows it's a catch?

1708
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 4: Like that one was immediately I was at a sports

1709
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 4: bar in Denver and it was like in Unison that

1710
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 4: one jumped right off the screen as being unique.

1711
01:19:35,240 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 10: I'm not defending the hit of Trevor Lawrence. Let me

1712
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:42,840
Speaker 10: be clear. What I'm saying is that because quarterbacks have

1713
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 10: continued to push, how late they've lied, and how NFL

1714
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,760
Speaker 10: has continually always come down on the side of the

1715
01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 10: quarterback in those situations about hey, defend the quarterback. You

1716
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 10: can't hit him, but oh wait, now we still got

1717
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 10: to get him down at some point. It has led

1718
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 10: us to this situation where defenders are in conflict. They

1719
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,800
Speaker 10: don't know if they need to hit the quarterback or

1720
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:05,880
Speaker 10: if they need to lay off on them. And a

1721
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:08,160
Speaker 10: lot of times they are jumping or they are going

1722
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 10: to tackle and at the last moment they have to

1723
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 10: turn their body to try to avoid them. But if

1724
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 10: we didn't allow this to continue to creep, where the

1725
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 10: quarterbacks are sliding closer and closer to the defender, you

1726
01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,679
Speaker 10: wouldn't even have this situation where a guy is going

1727
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 10: in dirty, malicious, trying to hit the quarterback and then

1728
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 10: the guy slides like we saw with Trevor Lawrence.

1729
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 4: And I guarantee that that was shown around every locker

1730
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Speaker 4: room for every game that was played subsequent to that,

1731
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Speaker 4: because I don't know if you know, yessuha when bo

1732
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 4: Nick slid. There was one where Jordan Hicks was right

1733
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 4: there and he just froze, didn't even move at him,

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01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:47,240
Speaker 4: and obviously you could see why that happened.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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01:20:47,640 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 4: You have to penalize a fake slide that where somebody

1737
01:20:50,920 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 4: gets people to lay up and then they go ball

1738
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,400
Speaker 4: should be dead right where they start that and a

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01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 4: penalty agreed, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, hof One other thing I wanted to get to

1741
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,040
Speaker 3: you before we bid, you would do my friend one

1742
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 3: I'll do. Let you do, pick your own adventure. Pittsburgh

1743
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 3: having another winning season under Mike Tomlin. They clinched that

1744
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 3: with a win in Cincinnati. Cincinnati maybe being on a

1745
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 3: top of any NFL Most Disappointing team list. Burrows playing

1746
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 3: at an MVP level, it's not enough. Or Baltimore in

1747
01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 3: what is going on with Justin Tucker and missing field

1748
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: goals and it cost him again.

1749
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Speaker 10: I'm most perplexed by the Justin Tucker thing because he's

1750
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 10: been the greatest kicker in NFL history, the most clutch,

1751
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 10: the guy with the biggest leg, and then all of

1752
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 10: a sudden, he's got this yips. And of anybody that

1753
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 10: you would ever expect to get the yips, he's about

1754
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 10: the last guy on that list. And especially for a

1755
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 10: team that's competing, that's expecting to get great play out

1756
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 10: of their kicker like they always have, It's just so

1757
01:21:50,560 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 10: confusing and perplexing as to why this is happening to

1758
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 10: him and why he hasn't been able to pull himself

1759
01:21:55,479 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 10: out of this slump.

1760
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 2: It's wild.

1761
01:21:58,120 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 3: All right, we'll get you out of here on this one.

1762
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 3: What was the best bite of food you had over

1763
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:02,719
Speaker 3: the weekend?

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01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 10: Oh baby, oh baby, that is a wonderful question.

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01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 10: I went with the cress and rolls with the bottom,

1767
01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:14,439
Speaker 10: the warm crest and roll to the top, but which

1768
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 10: was so good. But actually we had like a pumpkin

1769
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 10: chocolate chip cheesecake with a vanilla custard that was a

1770
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 10: really fantastic bite just there, like the Graham cracker crust,

1771
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 10: crustiness with the creamy pumpkin cheesecake and then like the

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01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 10: little chocolate chip bites, and then you contrast that with

1773
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,880
Speaker 10: the cold creamy ice cream that kind of mixed it

1774
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 10: all together like a little cement mixer bucket. It was

1775
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 10: lovely as it went down the gullet. And so I

1776
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 10: think that was probably my favorite bute. I want to

1777
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,160
Speaker 10: hear from you guys, Doud. I got to hear what

1778
01:22:49,240 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 10: your your favorite bites were.

1779
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,519
Speaker 4: So my favorite bite was towards the end of the

1780
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,160
Speaker 4: night when I walked in and I saw the carcass

1781
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 4: of the of the bird, and I said, you say it,

1782
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 4: it's like there's some simeat here. I started ripping and dipping.

1783
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:05,919
Speaker 4: Just rip a hunk of meat, dipping in the gravy,

1784
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:09,960
Speaker 4: boom and repeat, and it was really delightful. Also, my

1785
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 4: Nani made the official Nani made a very good kind

1786
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:16,679
Speaker 4: of like sweet potato castrole with the marshmallows and some nuts.

1787
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: Candy.

1788
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Speaker 3: Man, it was that's dessert, Yes, yes it was. We

1789
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 3: had a The wind for me was I always it's

1790
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Speaker 3: a lot of people. We do like a buffet style,

1791
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 3: and so everybody kind of goes through. I'm always towards

1792
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 3: the end, and Uncle Dave had done a great job

1793
01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:34,960
Speaker 3: on the carving, and there was yet it separated whites

1794
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 3: and darks, but it was kind of in a in

1795
01:23:36,479 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 3: a pan that had you know, kind of like rounded

1796
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,719
Speaker 3: walls on it. And as I was getting to the back,

1797
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,799
Speaker 3: I saw it kind of glistening and what had happened

1798
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 3: was a lot of the turkey juice had gone to

1799
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 3: the bottom of this operation, almost creating a bit of a.

1800
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 2: An aujou if you was.

1801
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:56,160
Speaker 3: And in that auju was a fully formed turkey leg.

1802
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 2: Oh what a gift, like just sitting there an.

1803
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely waiting, and I thought, well, I don't need anything else,

1804
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,719
Speaker 3: you can have all of this other stuff on the side.

1805
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 3: Just get me that guy. And he was all dip

1806
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 3: or lacquered up. He was lubed up and ready to go.

1807
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 3: And away we go. Yep, Yeah, that was it.

1808
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 2: So that Crispy Crispy. I don't know if it was

1809
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 2: a new dip. I don't know what it was. But

1810
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:21,439
Speaker 2: I don't know if.

1811
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 4: It's easy off. I mean, it's in play, it's in play.

1812
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1813
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 2: All right, Happy Thanksgiving to you and your family. Buddy.

1814
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you.

1815
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 10: I appreciate it.

1816
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Speaker 4: Tick care all right, your great clips, great clip of

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Speaker 4: the game coming up next year's to cleveand Browns Daily

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1819
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Speaker 6: Second and goal on the five for the Browns, they

1820
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Speaker 6: go empty, double tight to the rights. Game is to

1821
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Speaker 6: throw looking left.

1822
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Speaker 5: It's caught.

1823
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Speaker 2: It's a touchdown.

1824
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Speaker 1: Neck shut.

1825
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Speaker 7: Oh and we are tied at thirty one.

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Speaker 3: Great clips, It's going to be great. This was the

1835
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Speaker 3: portion of the game where our pets heads were falling off.

1836
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Speaker 3: So we had a ninety three yard touchdown from Denver

1837
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Speaker 3: and then came this from Jerry Judy.

1838
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Speaker 6: With the Blake clock winding down, Jamis has this hap

1839
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Speaker 6: takes a deep prop in. He wants a deep shot.

1840
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Speaker 7: De Park pylon Hi stepping and falling backwards into the

1843
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Speaker 7: end zone. Touch down, Browns seventy yards.

1844
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Speaker 4: Yes, ah yeah, joy, Yes, a young Gabriel.

1845
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Speaker 2: He pulled the old oakie dooke on me. I turned

1846
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Speaker 2: around and goes there I was Gabriel. There, I was

1847
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Speaker 2: laugh heaven breath. So by the way, today, happy birthday

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Speaker 2: to the great Moads. Yeah. Former Acting Secretary of the

1850
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Speaker 2: US Navy.

1851
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Speaker 10: Yes.

1852
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Speaker 2: Yes.

1853
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Speaker 4: And then yesterday I had one of the craziest encounters

1854
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:31,480
Speaker 4: I've had at a stadium.

1855
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Speaker 5: All Right, I'm in.

1856
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Speaker 2: A filibuster for a second. Let's see.

1857
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Speaker 4: I need I need a Wikipedia, I need the history

1858
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Speaker 4: of them, and give me one no, no, no, hold

1859
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Speaker 4: on one second. Yes, Michael Morrell. I met Michael Morrell yesterday,

1860
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Speaker 4: who was the director of the c i A, the

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Speaker 4: acting director of the c i A from July one,

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Speaker 4: November ninth, twenty twelve to March eighth, two thousand and thirteen.

1864
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Speaker 2: And he was he's a huge Browns fan. How cool

1865
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Speaker 2: is this?

1866
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 4: And he was there. He knew somebody at the game

1867
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:17,920
Speaker 4: and was holding the parabolic mic. Just wanted to come

1868
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:18,799
Speaker 4: out to direct.

1869
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Speaker 5: He was one of the pair of ESPN parabolic people.

1870
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 2: That's amazing. And he came in. All Bright brought him

1871
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 2: into our series, like, hey, he really wants to meet you.

1872
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,679
Speaker 4: I'm like, whoa, that's awesome. I didn't have enough time

1873
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 4: to get in any questions. Yeah, knowing where the bodies

1874
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 4: are wow, yeah right yeah. I always like that in

1875
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 4: any sort of d strong at that time, strong at

1876
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Speaker 4: the top level.

1877
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Speaker 2: Yeah, very very strong, top levels of government.

1878
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Speaker 3: Very patriotic the uh like anytime there's like any sort

1879
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Speaker 3: of international espionage espionage movies. Yeah, and they never say

1880
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Speaker 3: c ag at Cia. They just say our friends from Langley, Langley.

1881
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Speaker 2: I just like that. Yeah, for sure, easy worth our

1882
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Speaker 2: friends from Langley. Oh okay, all right, guess it's sorted. See.

1883
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Speaker 2: I like that a lot. That's great. Yeah, that's big

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Speaker 2: time luminary there. Yeah. I was pretty pumped about that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's very good. Big down is a quote, huge time, Yeah,

1886
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Speaker 2: very good. All right, There you have it.

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Speaker 2: Where are you well?

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Speaker 3: You've been out so did you watch any Christmas movies

1906
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:21,439
Speaker 3: this weekend? There's no no fam so you did you do?

1907
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 3: Do it on your own?

1908
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 2: So you gotta you gotta catch up? Yeah, I gotta

1909
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Speaker 2: get big. Yeah, but we're out land yet so much

1910
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Speaker 2: going on.

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Speaker 3: It's peaked. I don't know enough there's enough time for it.

1912
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Speaker 3: I don't know if there is either. We watched we

1913
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Speaker 3: the first one. We always watched this home alone. So

1914
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 3: we watched it Thanksgiving night. We watched it, and every

1915
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,960
Speaker 3: year I pick up something one other little.

1916
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:46,520
Speaker 2: Intricacy to it.

1917
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 3: It's really remarkable how at the end John Hurd, whom

1918
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 3: pretty sure in the Sopranos Tony Pistol whips at one

1919
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 3: point that as the dad of Kevin like comes in,

1920
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 3: is like, hey man, how you doing?

1921
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 2: Are there any groceries?

1922
01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 3: Like he's not nearly as bought into what just has

1923
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,480
Speaker 3: occurred that you've left an eight year old in Chicago?

1924
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Very kind of like, hey, good to see you.

1925
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, very, it's his codeaway. He's not like hugging his kid,

1926
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:17,720
Speaker 4: like won't let go of it, Like that's what can

1927
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Speaker 4: you imagine? Like you just hold them and just say,

1928
01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 4: my god, thank god, you're okay. He's like, no, no

1929
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Speaker 4: big deal. Yeah, went well was it?

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Speaker 2: Uncle Frank guy's a real crud guy was a total

1931
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Speaker 2: crud A villain.

1932
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Speaker 5: He really was.

1933
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Speaker 2: Certainly he was one of the villains. He's like he

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Speaker 2: and Hans Gruber might be the two biggest Christmas movie villains.

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Speaker 2: I don't a problem with that. I'm not gonna fight

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Speaker 2: young diehards a Christmas no way, no, no no, And

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01:30:41,720 --> 01:30:44,679
Speaker 2: who knows it's it's fun. It's just the way Jade

1938
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Speaker 2: wants us all to uh to have one of our research.

1939
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Speaker 2: This is very very I would love one kind. So

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Speaker 2: el large, large, gibbe double X.

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Speaker 5: Let's go three, just to be on safe say.

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Speaker 3: Here hour hand official real estate provider. Hey, guess what

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Speaker 3: back tomorrow. Cleveland, it's that time, fifty Cleveland.

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