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Speaker 2: He am I the a hole eyo tattoo. All tattoos

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Speaker 2: equal tramp stamps, yes, which equals you a tramp. Actually, movie,

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Speaker 3: In my soul.

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Speaker 1: I tricked some guys again, Okay, idiot that I had

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Speaker 1: a god awful tattoo.

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Speaker 3: One day I'll figure something out. We actually get a tattoo. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Just just like I just need to start to drop,

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Speaker 1: maybe on the thigh. Maybe it's the tear drop right

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Speaker 1: where the only Oh god, Okay, let's read this story.

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Speaker 3: My sister is twenty eight. I'm twenty six male.

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Speaker 1: My sister and has always had a strained relationship with

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Speaker 3: When Enn went to college, she met her.

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Speaker 3: Ooh oh baby.

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Speaker 1: They would do a lot together and worked closely on

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Speaker 3: Oh oh god, Oh the way you move that pin.

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Speaker 3: Oh the way you fold that paper, you make me want.

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Speaker 2: To fold meby Oh god, the way you hold punch

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Speaker 3: With your wiener. Oh dear, this is this is Sam's pillowtokic.

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Speaker 1: They would do a lot together and work closely on

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Speaker 1: so who are we talking about again? So okay, I

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Speaker 3: So who are the two people?

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Speaker 2: And the art professor is like, probably enough to be

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, drop me like one of your French girls.

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Speaker 3: They were like, we totally misinterpreted it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe you can't stop us now. The mother daughter relationship,

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Speaker 3: But ten years later they're very close.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I mean this just sounds like it

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Speaker 3: The year friendship. Oh.

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Speaker 1: Now, about a month ago, the professor died unexpectedly in

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Speaker 3: Also the brother, like why is the brother interpreting it?

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, I think you should let your hate

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Speaker 1: out of your grief process. Yes, agreed. I am a therapist.

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Speaker 2: betterhead dot com.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not only fans.

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Speaker 1: I thought it would be a much more appropriate medium

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Speaker 1: It's it's painful how fucking blind Op is to like this,

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Speaker 1: But and you know what else people should get Sam.

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Speaker 2: When I got home, my mom was waiting for me

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Speaker 1: That's the mature thing to do. Or you could just

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