Speaker 1: What's that at the foot of my bed. It's spooky.
Speaker 1: I'm really sure it's dead. It's coming this way. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, I said.
Speaker 2: I.
Speaker 1: Days, Hey boo, it's me Roz. Halloween is over. Thank
Speaker 1: you for sticking around. I have a conversation with Matt
Speaker 1: Bronger coming at you. Before we get into that. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, a bunch of people sent me. What
Speaker 1: a lovely way to start my November. A bunch of
Speaker 1: people sent me a clip from recent guest and one
Speaker 1: of my favorite comedians of all time, Patton Oswalt. I'm
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel Live dropping my name and this podcast, and
Speaker 1: he was talking about eBay haunted dolls and that was
Speaker 1: so cool. Thank you, Paton. He's the best. But I
Speaker 1: wanted to read a ghost story that was sent to
Speaker 1: me from a listener and it was left in a
Speaker 1: five star review, which you could do as well. If
Speaker 1: you want me to read one of your ghost stories,
Speaker 1: put it in a five star review on Apple Podcasts,
Speaker 1: or you could just leave a five star review anyway. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this one comes from Janine and it says this
Speaker 1: happened in my basement apartment in Red Deer, Alberta. Canada.
Speaker 1: I was having an afternoon nap in my bedroom. I
Speaker 1: was dreaming that I was fighting someone while I was
Speaker 1: working at the time. I was a police officer. In
Speaker 1: my dream, I was physically fighting. Someone was holding me
Speaker 1: back with their arm across my chest. In my dream,
Speaker 1: I could feel the pressure on my chest. And I
Speaker 1: woke up laying in my bed. I could still feel
Speaker 1: the pressure on my chest. There was a boy approximately
Speaker 1: eight to ten years old sitting on my chest, screaming
Speaker 1: in my face. I could not hear anything, but I
Speaker 1: could see him clearly. He had a black and white
Speaker 1: checkered flannel shirt wavy hair. As I woke up, he
Speaker 1: became more transparent until I could no longer see him.
Speaker 1: The more awake I became, the more freaked out I was.
Speaker 1: As I woke up, I could no longer see him,
Speaker 1: but I could feel his presence in the room. I
Speaker 1: knew exactly when he left the room, but did not
Speaker 1: see him. Go oh my god. The craziest thing is
Speaker 1: that this was in the afternoon, and this little boy
Speaker 1: with his flannel on is just screaming in your face. Okay,
Speaker 1: who's ghost child? Get your ghost child? Ghost parents, if
Speaker 1: you're listening all right, because this sounds like when I
Speaker 1: go to Target. Every time I go to Target, there's
Speaker 1: always some little kid running around going through my shopping basket.
Speaker 1: Get your ghost children. They shouldn't be climbing up on
Speaker 1: people when they're taking naps. That's my message for ghost parents. Okay,
Speaker 1: Matt Broner's on the show today. You know him from
Speaker 1: his many television appearances and his hilarious stand up. He
Speaker 1: has a new special out called Doug. He'll tell you
Speaker 1: about that at the end of our conversation. So let's
Speaker 1: just do it. Let's go for it. Go to patreon
Speaker 1: dot com slash ros dress for Les link in the
Speaker 1: description of this episode to listen to full length episodes.
Speaker 1: I just did one about Massachusetts Massachusetts spookin Us. Also
Speaker 1: check out the video versions of these episodes. The one
Speaker 1: with Curly dropped last week and the one with Matt
Speaker 1: will be out any day now on YouTube. Okay, here
Speaker 1: we go, time for some Matt Bronger on with the show.
Speaker 1: You guys. I'm joined by Matt Bronger. Hello, how are you.
Speaker 1: I'm so good? Yeah, it's Halloween time it is. You're
Speaker 1: a horror fan?
Speaker 3: Huge?
Speaker 1: Yes, what's the best horror movie you've seen in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two.
Speaker 4: Wow, oh well it's a member, so I must have
Speaker 4: seen my one for the year.
Speaker 3: I think was it was X. I think me two.
Speaker 1: Now what do you think of Pearl?
Speaker 3: I liked Pearl a lot in it.
Speaker 4: Really, I didn't know what to expect, and I will
Speaker 4: say I don't like prequels generally speaking.
Speaker 3: I just I want to keep the act moving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you know what would the barn was built
Speaker 4: from that we're having this down in But it's it.
Speaker 3: I did like it. I think mea goth is just
Speaker 3: Banana's town.
Speaker 1: She would win an oscar one day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not for that, because it's too It's.
Speaker 1: But like when the credits are rolling, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, oh my god, you that last shot.
Speaker 1: Takes you for what she does that monologue. It's like,
Speaker 1: I think, just one take.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that blew me away.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with me too. I can't wait for the
Speaker 1: next one. Did you see Barbarian No?
Speaker 3: I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 4: And my friend wrote it and directed it, Zach Craiger
Speaker 4: from the Whitest Kids. You know, when I was when
Speaker 4: I was trying to kind of break into the New
Speaker 4: York comedy scene. I'd already been doing in La for
Speaker 4: a while, and I was kind of just like or
Speaker 4: more trying to get club owners to notice me. I
Speaker 4: opened for them for a couple of weekends and they
Speaker 4: were just like great, yeah, come on, and their fans
Speaker 4: were like super cool to me. And so I've had
Speaker 4: some real fun times with that guy.
Speaker 3: And he's like, I.
Speaker 1: Couldn't realize it was a comedy person.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was a sketch group called the Whitest Kids, you know,
Speaker 4: And yeah, he was always He went on to be
Speaker 4: in like movies and various TV shows and things, and
Speaker 4: I just it's one of those things that just popped
Speaker 4: up where you know, when you see some friend of
Speaker 4: someone you know in the on the liner and the
Speaker 4: announcement or something, you're.
Speaker 3: Like, is that the same person?
Speaker 4: So I was like whoa, And I just DMed him
Speaker 4: and I was like congratinate. He's like thanks man, it's
Speaker 4: been a long time, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just what's.
Speaker 1: Like, Jordan Peele? I mean, what is it about funny
Speaker 1: people that could be so scary?
Speaker 4: I think we find things. I think it's like we're
Speaker 4: we're we're funny. Because we find the interesting, if that
Speaker 4: makes any sense. And to me, horror because the stakes
Speaker 4: are so high is and it's and it's just unabashedly
Speaker 4: so schlocky in its own way, and because it's it's
Speaker 4: disrespected on the same level that stand up is, and
Speaker 4: both of them kind of should be which good you know,
Speaker 4: It's that that lends itself one lends itself to the other.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I've always like one thing I always loved about horror
Speaker 1: is like everyday life is being flipped on its head
Speaker 1: for some reason, whether it's a ghost or it's a killer,
Speaker 1: or something is being flipped in the world that we
Speaker 1: are used to. And I feel like comedy too, it's
Speaker 1: like finding the funny and something that we're used to.
Speaker 1: It's like just looking at things in a deeper way. Maybe.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And also what we do is kind of horrifying to
Speaker 4: get on stage in front of a bunch of strangers.
Speaker 1: It is terrified.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Dana Gould had.
Speaker 4: The best line about like you have to be uh oh,
Speaker 4: is it like a you have to take take the
Speaker 4: the mental health level. I'm butchering his thing, But it's
Speaker 4: like of with a grain of salt of people who
Speaker 4: get on stage for a living and beg for love
Speaker 4: from strangers.
Speaker 3: Like we're kind of imbalanced.
Speaker 4: We kind of have something in common with that person
Speaker 4: who's like, you know, why does this person go kill?
Speaker 3: Is it to be noticed? Is it is? It is
Speaker 3: to make their mark?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: You know? So you're saying Michael Myers should have just
Speaker 1: been Mike Myers like it?
Speaker 4: Maybe he should have just gone yeah, And but I
Speaker 4: think he'd be more like a Stephen Wright type, just
Speaker 4: like one yeah, because he's pretty like dry, yes, very dry.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't. I don't know exactly why.
Speaker 4: I just grew up reading horror and really getting you know,
Speaker 4: I was a kid of the eighties, so just seeing
Speaker 4: those posters and being like what is that movie?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like this is.
Speaker 4: Making everything else look uninteresting to me because that looks
Speaker 4: really fucked up?
Speaker 1: And so are you where when it comes to paranormal
Speaker 1: what do you think of all that stuff?
Speaker 4: I don't generally speaking like, I'm not what I call
Speaker 4: a hardcore believer, but I do, and you know, let's
Speaker 4: get deep. I do talk to God. I do, uh
Speaker 4: as I was I was raised very what else should
Speaker 4: just say Christian? But I would say very progressive Christian.
Speaker 4: But that sounds alien. Now you know where. I grew
Speaker 4: up in a church that was burned down the thirties
Speaker 4: for allowing black parishioners and had gay uh members of
Speaker 4: the of the flock, and and and all all manner
Speaker 4: of people, which is weird because it was almost like
Speaker 4: an anti Catholic Catholic church. It's still there whereas and
Speaker 4: it's in It's in Portland, Oregon. It's called Saint Andrew's.
Speaker 4: And it's like, I don't go to church because I
Speaker 4: will say this, My hardest thing is not so much
Speaker 4: a belief in the divine. My hardest thing is congregation
Speaker 4: is standing with a bunch of people going we all
Speaker 4: believe this right. It would be as hard for me
Speaker 4: as standing around and going. Now, the best, the best
Speaker 4: band and of all time is one two three. Everyone
Speaker 4: say the best band. We know, the best band even
Speaker 4: no matter what you say, I'm gonna be like yeah sometimes,
Speaker 4: but other times I like this band.
Speaker 3: I don't want to listen nuance all the time. I mean, yes,
Speaker 3: there's no no nuance.
Speaker 4: And I feel like God is bigger than the name,
Speaker 4: bigger than a face, bigger than a sex, bigger than
Speaker 4: an individual.
Speaker 3: It's like an energy.
Speaker 4: But like even I don't like saying that necess ssarily,
Speaker 4: but I think there's we we've just through through through biology.
Speaker 4: We know there's far more that we can't see that's there.
Speaker 4: I think the biggest argument for any kind of paranormal
Speaker 4: thing that I've ever heard of is an event that
Speaker 4: was so say traumatic.
Speaker 3: Or or or uh uh hard or or amazing or
Speaker 3: whatever like it.
Speaker 4: Let the person's the person's death left a stain in
Speaker 4: some way where they could you know, we're you know,
Speaker 4: like the same person keeps seeing this this woman in
Speaker 4: a garter going up the stairs.
Speaker 3: You saw her too, what she do? She turned around,
Speaker 3: she looked at me.
Speaker 4: She looked at me, and to me, it's almost like, oh,
Speaker 4: you're seeing a spiritual photograph.
Speaker 3: So that's an argument I've heard that. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: I could see that.
Speaker 1: Well, and it might not even be a death.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like we all, I think been told from movies
Speaker 1: or whatever that it's just like someone died right here
Speaker 1: and now they're but like it could just be like
Speaker 1: she had a great day one day, and that good
Speaker 1: mood is just chilling on the staircase.
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's when. That's when her uh, her horrible, miserly
Speaker 4: husband fell down the stairs and died, and no one
Speaker 4: knew how happy she was. She hit it and it
Speaker 4: took everything in her and not smile.
Speaker 1: See. I was thinking recently, like I am so like
Speaker 1: I'm against the grain. I'm not like everyone else. I
Speaker 1: feel like if I died in a place, I would
Speaker 1: purposely not haunt it so that everyone would think. Everyone
Speaker 1: would want me to like, that's what you want me
Speaker 1: to do? Yeah, I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 4: I always felt like people people looked at ghosts as
Speaker 4: being scary for the wrong reasons. To me, people were
Speaker 4: always like, oh, that ghost is gonna kill me. That
Speaker 4: ghost is trying.
Speaker 3: To make me stay with it all that forever.
Speaker 4: And I was like, no, if I saw a ghost,
Speaker 4: my heart would break because I'd be like, oh, that
Speaker 4: can happen. You can just be stuck in this fucking
Speaker 4: house that is so depressing, so depressing, you know.
Speaker 3: You want to leave.
Speaker 4: There's a family that moves in, and all you're thinking
Speaker 4: about is your family that you'll never see again.
Speaker 3: Are they ghosts like me?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 3: Look at me? Hey? Yeah, free me do a ritual something,
Speaker 3: Send me somewhere else. This sucks. I'm tired of this house.
Speaker 3: I hate the paintings you put.
Speaker 1: Up the exactly that's not what my house is supposed
Speaker 1: to look like.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so that that to me an eternity just
Speaker 4: in a house and being invisible, I would I would
Speaker 4: go insane.
Speaker 1: That's why they always say that when people start refurbishing houses,
Speaker 1: that's when like the ghosts come out.
Speaker 3: Really yeah wow wow.
Speaker 1: That or like, I don't know, I just I always
Speaker 1: think of I think there are some ghosts that are like,
Speaker 1: this is the gig of a lifetime. This is so fun.
Speaker 1: I could just creep people out all day. I love it.
Speaker 1: And then there's other ones where I think it is Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like they're stuck. They're just yeah, well that sounds
Speaker 1: like hell it does.
Speaker 4: But you know, the thought just a crickane to me
Speaker 4: that I haven't had before, which is maybe they kind
Speaker 4: of have them memory of fish, you know, where they don't.
Speaker 4: It's just it's the same five seconds over and over.
Speaker 4: They never know, so they're just around.
Speaker 1: But maybe they're not.
Speaker 3: They don't have the same sense of time as us, right,
Speaker 3: kind of thing. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of different ways that can exist.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think about Like I was
Speaker 1: just thinking about vampires, and it's like vampires love to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm going to live forever. Like have
Speaker 1: you heard global warming? Like that's not the bad. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be around for the next two hundred years.
Speaker 3: Lusk. No. Yeah, And that's a good point.
Speaker 4: It's it's you'd think vampires will be out at the
Speaker 4: front lines at the climate crisis. They wouldn't just be
Speaker 4: throwing on paintings. Look, I didn't want to come out
Speaker 4: like this, but I'm real, Okay. I feast on the
Speaker 4: blood of the innocent.
Speaker 3: It tastes the best.
Speaker 1: Why they so quiet's they're nocturnal.
Speaker 4: That would be interesting if all of these monsters come
Speaker 4: out of the woodwork and just go listen. We usually
Speaker 4: pray on you, but we need this. We all need
Speaker 4: this big blue marble just as bad as you do. Okay,
Speaker 4: I talk to the werewolves. They never come out, you know,
Speaker 4: and they're furious and they're going to start. Really they
Speaker 4: usually kill roughly a dozen campers per part.
Speaker 3: And they just saved the meat. You know. It's all
Speaker 3: this stuff in there and.
Speaker 1: Well, where's Bigfoot? Bigfoots the one her house is getting
Speaker 1: torn down every day? Where's Bigfoot?
Speaker 4: There was a guy in that I remember reading him
Speaker 4: by the news in Oregon when I was a kid
Speaker 4: who he he fully claimed he got captured by a
Speaker 4: family of sob squatch. Yeah, then like he was the
Speaker 4: he was their kid's pet. They keep him in a
Speaker 4: cage and the kid would take him out and ship
Speaker 4: and he's like look and he's like he was like
Speaker 4: in his forties.
Speaker 3: He escaped, Yeah, he escaped.
Speaker 4: He escaped by he found he found berries that would
Speaker 4: poison them and they got sick.
Speaker 3: Why where It's like, of course he took him back
Speaker 3: to where they were and they've brushed the ground and they've.
Speaker 4: I mean, I was just like, look even if which
Speaker 4: of course he was just saying that to get attention.
Speaker 4: God bless him, God bless I believe in making his
Speaker 4: own little.
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you about somebody I recently heard about.
Speaker 1: This story has been making the rounds. This was on
Speaker 1: a ABC affiliate called w FAA, and it's a house
Speaker 1: in Gainesville, Texas where this woman named Linda Hill she
Speaker 1: owns it. And here's just a quick little news report.
Speaker 1: It's like a revolving door.
Speaker 6: The longest anyone stayed in this house was six months.
Speaker 6: Linda Hills says she and her husband had no idea
Speaker 6: why in the mirror after ten tenants moved out in
Speaker 6: less than two years, someone told them it was haunted.
Speaker 3: Did you actually believe that?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 3: That changed.
Speaker 6: While she was taking a shower and I was in
Speaker 6: here through the curtain, a dark figure whispered, looking good,
Speaker 6: and then he turned and walked off. Linda assumed it
Speaker 6: was her husband until her husband walked in.
Speaker 1: And he said, who were you talking to? And it
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: He swore it wasn't him.
Speaker 1: It really is haunted.
Speaker 6: Rumor has it. The house used to be a bordella,
Speaker 6: which may explain why the ghosts here are how do
Speaker 6: I say this sexual?
Speaker 1: Yep, okay, no other way to put it.
Speaker 6: Audio recordings have caught the ghosts talking dirty.
Speaker 1: Oh baby, oh baby. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I like it like that, and I would like to
Speaker 6: talk about something else, like this door, which is pretty snug.
Speaker 6: Even when Linda pounds it shut, it finds a way
Speaker 6: to open. For those reasons and many more, Linda gave
Speaker 6: up on finding tenants and gave the house a name.
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's pretty much yat Okay, I mean I'm
Speaker 4: not laughing at that.
Speaker 3: Uh poor older woman getting.
Speaker 1: Oh baby, oh baby. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and.
Speaker 4: Just the idea of a ghost going looking good the
Speaker 4: room just a creep.
Speaker 1: Ghost, nigga. Really, I mean there's a part of me
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been guilty of being like someone
Speaker 1: just said it was so hot, Like can you guys
Speaker 1: believe that? Like someone was just hitting on me.
Speaker 3: The ghosts won't shut up about how hot I am.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I looked up a little bit about this house.
Speaker 1: So it was built in the mid eighteen fifties. It
Speaker 1: was said to be a bordello in a speakeasy at
Speaker 1: one point. It was purchased in two thousand and four
Speaker 1: by Linda Hill. She rented it out as a series
Speaker 1: of apartments, but people kept breaking their leases. There's a
Speaker 1: room in the downstairs area known as the dead area,
Speaker 1: where electricity does not run through. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: According to legend, during the bordello days, two men got
Speaker 1: in a fight over one of the ladies that was
Speaker 1: working there and it ended in a death. In the
Speaker 1: upstairs room, there's a cat ghost that has been recorded meowing,
Speaker 1: and people report feeling it brushed by their legs. There's
Speaker 1: a cowboy ghost that scratches ladies, and there's a room
Speaker 1: with ample amounts of X rated audio recordings from ghosts
Speaker 1: that have been captured in that room, and men report
Speaker 1: feeling quote curious and pleasurable sensations as if being touched
Speaker 1: by the ghosts. Wow, so there's some horny stuff going
Speaker 1: on in Gainesville, Texas.
Speaker 3: The cowboy scratches them.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: Okay, Now does the cowboy have like lacquered nails? Because
Speaker 4: I'm asking, I mean, look, it could be as to
Speaker 4: all sorts of types, right.
Speaker 3: You know, like a real butch type you do this
Speaker 3: a little bit more metro and as these as these
Speaker 3: nails sing Listen.
Speaker 1: I know a couple of cowboys that were acrylic nails.
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm sure that type good.
Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, I just I just feel like
Speaker 4: it's pretty progressive for that era, you know, like you
Speaker 4: hear that to me is like my favorite kind of
Speaker 4: like I love I love quote unquote I hate the term,
Speaker 4: but like deviant history where you.
Speaker 3: Find out you find out about like some Yeah, but.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about think about like my grandparents.
Speaker 1: The stuff that used to go down.
Speaker 4: Well, the thing in our grandparents' days, it was common
Speaker 4: as all hell where it was like, you know, if
Speaker 4: I was of that era and like I had a son,
Speaker 4: he'd be like, oh, taking bordello, so he learns you
Speaker 4: just you just did it. It's kind of one of
Speaker 4: those things and like not to be like, oh it
Speaker 4: was so much, so much more of a better time sexually.
Speaker 4: Oh no, not at all, but it was interesting that
Speaker 4: you would have to have this. It's almost like letting
Speaker 4: the steam out where not for like young men necessarily,
Speaker 4: but for everybody where it's like.
Speaker 3: I'm a housewife. I don't like dudes.
Speaker 4: I love my husband for who he is, but I
Speaker 4: got to go dancing down at Lydia's least once a week,
Speaker 4: or you know that kind of thing which went on
Speaker 4: all the time, I mean total during World War Two
Speaker 4: when all the guys went away to fight, there was
Speaker 4: just rampant hookups in the suburb Bordellos.
Speaker 1: I love that word too. It is have you ever
Speaker 1: seen Bordello of Blood? Yes, the Tells from the Crib.
Speaker 3: That's a fun one movie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this so okay. So if we go back
Speaker 1: to that theory of like a ghost being stuck in
Speaker 1: a place. So there's like maybe some guy that was
Speaker 1: there that maybe is the guy that died in this
Speaker 1: fight over one of the ladies that worked at the bordello,
Speaker 1: and now he just gets to stare at this woman
Speaker 1: when she showers.
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of hilarious poetic justice.
Speaker 3: That's just the.
Speaker 4: Johns, No actual ladies, ladies, it was just dudes. That
Speaker 4: just just the ghosts of drunk corny dudes, O baby
Speaker 4: baby so much.
Speaker 3: Rather than women. Yeah, just chilling, you know, having their time.
Speaker 1: Seriously, these guys that are just there, Like.
Speaker 4: I paid my money to watch you paid eighteen cents
Speaker 4: in your day. You're gonna have to pay a little
Speaker 4: bit more to watch me in the shower.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: But they shared this on the view and Joy Behart
Speaker 1: said that she has had sex with ghosts after this aired,
Speaker 1: after they were talking about it, and she's like, I've
Speaker 1: had sex with ghosts. And then it just kind of
Speaker 1: like they let that slide. But it was like it
Speaker 1: made headlines and people kept sending me like Joey bayher
Speaker 1: had sex with ghosts.
Speaker 3: I remember that. Yeah, that's been Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Okay, let me tell you about
Speaker 1: another thing. Uh. This is a story about a painting
Speaker 1: called The Hands Resist Him. It's a haunted painting. Okay,
Speaker 1: so let me give you a little presentation here.
Speaker 3: Okay. The year.
Speaker 1: Was two thousand. Cargo pants as far as the eye
Speaker 1: can see, a dozen eggs were going going for eighty
Speaker 1: nine cents, and a haunted painting on eBay sold for
Speaker 1: one thousand and fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I thought the song was gonna go. I thought
Speaker 1: it was gonna go more smooth. Actually, so the seller
Speaker 1: on eBay put up this painting. It was a bidding war.
Speaker 1: Over thirty thousand people were looking at it. It started
Speaker 1: at one hundred and ninety nine dollars. And this painting,
Speaker 1: the reason it was such a great thing in two
Speaker 1: thousand was because the person that posted it wrote, when
Speaker 1: we received this painting, we thought that it was really
Speaker 1: good art. A picker had found it in an abandoned brewery.
Speaker 1: Behind it. At the time, we wondered a little why.
Speaker 1: We wondered a little why a seemingly perfect fine painting
Speaker 1: would be discarded like that. But now we don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: let me show you what.
Speaker 3: It looks like, yeah, I want to see this thing.
Speaker 1: So this is the famous painting the hands resistant. Now
Speaker 1: it's really creepy. It's a little boy. Now, this is
Speaker 1: like a doll girl, like she doesn't have any eyeballs.
Speaker 1: And then there's these hands reaching through the glass. I
Speaker 1: don't know this little moon up there?
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, And the boy has like a forty five
Speaker 3: year old face.
Speaker 1: He kind of does. Yeah, he's kind of got like
Speaker 1: he's reeting her.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's like a mechanic, so.
Speaker 1: It says the people that posted it wrote. One morning,
Speaker 1: our four and a half year old daughter claimed that
Speaker 1: the children in the picture were fighting and coming into
Speaker 1: the room during the night.
Speaker 3: Jesus.
Speaker 1: Now, I don't believe in uf FOS or Elvis being alive,
Speaker 1: but my husband was alarmed. To my amusement, he set
Speaker 1: up a motion triggered camera for the nights. After three
Speaker 1: nights there were pictures. The last two pictures shown here
Speaker 1: are from that stakeout. After seeing the boys seemingly exit
Speaker 1: the picture under threat by the girl, we decided the
Speaker 1: painting has got to go. Please judge for yourself before
Speaker 1: you do. Okay. So this is their photos they believe
Speaker 1: depict the girl her little thing that she's holding morphed
Speaker 1: into a gun. Okay, oh, and she's like trying to
Speaker 1: creep out the little boy. And then they took this
Speaker 1: picture that they believe suggests that the little boy was
Speaker 1: actually leaving the painting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it just looks like the light is moved. Her
Speaker 4: face looks different though a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently they can move and do whatever they want
Speaker 1: on the painting.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: This was all found behind a brewery. So the history
Speaker 1: of the painting. So it was done by somebody named
Speaker 1: William stone Ham. He was contracted by the Charles fine
Speaker 1: Garten Galleries and Beverly Hills in nineteen seventy two. This
Speaker 1: was the only piece in his entire show that was sold.
Speaker 1: He eventually took a break from painting to work for
Speaker 1: Industrial Light and Magic and LucasArts Entertainment, but he since
Speaker 1: has returned. The inspiration was a photograph of him when
Speaker 1: he was five years old. He's quoted as saying that
Speaker 1: the hands and the glass are the other lives. The
Speaker 1: glass door is the thin veil between waking and dreaming.
Speaker 1: The girl doll is the imagined companion or guide through
Speaker 1: this realm. So many people have reported that by looking
Speaker 1: at this painting, they have had all kinds of sensations,
Speaker 1: including fainting, feeling their throats tighten up, crying for no reason.
Speaker 1: Their children are acting crazy when they see it. Author
Speaker 1: DK O'Neill wrote a fictionalized book about the painting, and
Speaker 1: he says that he printed off a copy of it.
Speaker 1: He went out of town. He comes back after a month,
Speaker 1: his whole house, his air conditioning went crazy. His whole
Speaker 1: house is covered in green mold except for the painting.
Speaker 1: Wo the art critic who first reviewed the art gallery
Speaker 1: show in nineteen seventy two shortly died after and the
Speaker 1: gallery owner also died after them. But see, but as
Speaker 1: I was reading this, I'm like, they died like five
Speaker 1: years after me.
Speaker 3: It was like people died people. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The man who originally bought it apparently had sold it
Speaker 1: and then he died later.
Speaker 4: But so I'm like, yeah, I don't know, this doesn't
Speaker 4: seem like king touch.
Speaker 1: But the guy that did buy it, his name was
Speaker 1: John Marley. He was an actor who was in the
Speaker 1: Godfather who I believe he was the man that had
Speaker 1: the horse head next to Oh.
Speaker 3: We played the studio exact the head of the studio
Speaker 3: or whatever.
Speaker 1: I guess spelling times as I've seen that movie, but
Speaker 1: apparently that's the man that originally bought it, and then
Speaker 1: like a couple of years later he died. Okay, I
Speaker 1: was bought by a guy from my hometown of Grand Rapids, Michigan,
Speaker 1: and it's currently in the back room of his gallery
Speaker 1: and he hasn't had anything super natural happen. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of not convinced something.
Speaker 4: No, it's it's just everything is just a little bit too.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, kids do kids do nothing but lie.
Speaker 4: They just they just think it's interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: This is kind of based on the children, yes, saying
Speaker 1: that they saw it, the kids leaving the painting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's a messed up thing. If
Speaker 4: this thing these kids are coming out of the painting
Speaker 4: to message I love the idea. That's horrifying.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But then the stop action thing and it's just like like, well,
Speaker 4: you kind of zoomed in and that's.
Speaker 1: It looks like there's a light on the little boy
Speaker 1: where the part of the picture you zoomed in on.
Speaker 4: You did that, so it looks it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I saw it's not. There's no I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay. Now, I feel like if something
Speaker 1: bad happens to us, I apologize that I showed you
Speaker 1: that we just looked at it. Please don't.
Speaker 3: I've looked at so many things that are supposedly cursed.
Speaker 1: Oh you have?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, Like why haven't you? No, just pictures of.
Speaker 1: There's some things I'm afraid of. No, there's things that
Speaker 1: trust me, people bring up to me all the time.
Speaker 1: You should cover this on the show. I won't because
Speaker 1: I look at I read about it, and I know
Speaker 1: my ass I'm gonna on the show be making fun
Speaker 1: of how silly this little doll looks or whatever. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, pretty like, some things I'm afraid of, I'm
Speaker 1: afraid of because I have looked up curses and stuff,
Speaker 1: and like, for example, James Deane's car that is a
Speaker 1: terrifying one. So many people have passed involved in that car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let me tell you about a place
Speaker 1: that is believed to be evil. Okay, it's right in
Speaker 1: our backyard, Los Felis, California. That's where I live, the
Speaker 1: Los Felis Murder House.
Speaker 3: Yes, are you familiar I used to live around the corner.
Speaker 4: I lived on Rowena and that side street that goes
Speaker 4: right up it's right on that same street as the
Speaker 4: old monastery.
Speaker 1: Oh you're thinking, okay, wait, there's a couple of Low's
Speaker 1: feeless murders.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm thinking of the Manson one.
Speaker 1: You're thinking of that one, which I also used to
Speaker 1: live for six years. I lived right there as well.
Speaker 3: Amazing.
Speaker 1: So do you know who Zach Baggins is. He hosts
Speaker 1: to show ghost adventures. He's like paranormal bad boy. Like
Speaker 1: he's like the like paranormal guy, and he buys like
Speaker 1: lots of murder stuff. He likes that kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: He bought that house wow, and then he sold it
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter it. But there's the other Los Pheelis murder Mansion,
Speaker 1: which is it's more like by the Greek kind of
Speaker 1: Oh okay, it's more in that area. So the story
Speaker 1: basically is this doctor in nineteen fifty nine killed his wife,
Speaker 1: tried to kill his children, killed himself, and then the
Speaker 1: house just stayed empty until like I don't know, five
Speaker 1: years ago or something, which is empty for years, and
Speaker 1: then it's like been sold a few times and nobody's really.
Speaker 1: I think that there's just so many repairs and stuff
Speaker 1: that need to be done. They kind of stripped it
Speaker 1: down to the studs and it's like, I think it
Speaker 1: might be up for sale still because they're just like, what,
Speaker 1: first of all, it's called the murder House, I don't
Speaker 1: know who wants to live there, but also like it's
Speaker 1: millions of dollars of things that need to be done
Speaker 1: to it. So Zagbaggins also went to this house and
Speaker 1: did an investigation, okay, and he believes that it's evil. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I watched the special. It's a two parts special.
Speaker 1: I watched the first part. At one point, he's walking
Speaker 1: up the stairs and he experiences a gust of wind
Speaker 1: that smells like sulfur.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and he goes, do you.
Speaker 1: Guys smell that? And they're like no, but he says
Speaker 1: that it's that there's an evil in this house. So
Speaker 1: this clip was just posted by TMZ from the part two.
Speaker 1: They think that they caught a ghost chair using their technology.
Speaker 1: What is this technology called. It's like a three D
Speaker 1: laser scan called lie dar lea dar And this is
Speaker 1: something I think this is interesting, Okay, what.
Speaker 3: Is going on right, now, what are you here?
Speaker 4: You have to make sure you get and you can
Speaker 4: actually see the trajectory and the green line for all
Speaker 4: of our scans.
Speaker 1: You can actually do a trajectory to follow where the
Speaker 1: scanner went.
Speaker 4: So that's how we can eliminate noise.
Speaker 2: That is the person who's scanning.
Speaker 3: And what is that?
Speaker 4: It looks like there's a looks like a chair, is
Speaker 4: what it looks like to me.
Speaker 5: The guys are absolutely baffled because the laser scan is
Speaker 5: showing a phantom chair in one of the rooms.
Speaker 3: Almost like a chair, looks like a chair.
Speaker 1: It does look like a chair, as the team described
Speaker 1: a chair does a chair?
Speaker 5: They show us what an actual wheelchair would look like
Speaker 5: on the scan. They now demand to go back inside
Speaker 5: to see if there is indeed a chair in that room.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's this little backroom back here, yeah, right here,
Speaker 4: So there we are here right.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was about, oh my god, no way, no way,
Speaker 1: there's no chair. There's nothing here. There's so I don't know,
Speaker 1: ghost chair. Hmm, what do you think?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I wish I knew anything about that technology.
Speaker 1: And that's what the house looks like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that looks like been somewhere somewhere in my neighborhood
Speaker 4: for sure. And that's but it's I O. Our house
Speaker 4: is below like a block below Lost Feelis, which is great.
Speaker 3: That's where I want to live.
Speaker 4: But when you go north of Lost Feelis, that's where
Speaker 4: they are super money.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Well, also you know the Hubs and Haunted Hill House,
Speaker 1: the the original house and Haunted.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I've walked by it. Yeah, way up there.
Speaker 1: I love that house.
Speaker 3: It's incredible.
Speaker 1: It's right behind this house. And the crazy thing is
Speaker 1: they were filming that movie when the family lived there.
Speaker 1: Whoa nineteen fifty nine.
Speaker 3: I've seen this house. I've walked by the house.
Speaker 1: This house like it's on like a little cold, like
Speaker 1: a little dead end street. I don't know. I've been
Speaker 1: to it many times. I've been so fascinated by this
Speaker 1: house for years because people used to they used to
Speaker 1: say that, like because people have broke in a million times,
Speaker 1: like jump the fence, and people used to take pictures
Speaker 1: of like there's still Christmas presents because it happened during
Speaker 1: Christmas time, and like there's all these like old relics
Speaker 1: from the family. It's like the perfect like scary movie thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, this technology. Okay, so it
Speaker 1: uses laser to scan objects or services by measuring the
Speaker 1: time it takes for the reflected light to bounce back.
Speaker 1: So it's basically three D laser. I don't know any
Speaker 1: those chairs seem to appear and disappear on the laser
Speaker 1: scan despite there being no seat in the actual scan room,
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's it's one of those things where
Speaker 4: it just seems like ghosts, if they're real, are kind
Speaker 4: of just fucking with us, where it's like give them
Speaker 4: a chair, Oh my god. It's not anything like a
Speaker 4: dead man or you know, a screaming headless lady or something.
Speaker 1: It's just like, because I wonder like you would think
Speaker 1: of a ghost as being something connected to us.
Speaker 4: A living thing. Yes, at leased to give me a
Speaker 4: dog or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It could be because especially because
Speaker 1: it's empty. The house is currently empty, so maybe like
Speaker 1: the chair that's been there for sixty years somehow.
Speaker 3: And like.
Speaker 4: You know what we're talking about impressions. It's like, even
Speaker 4: if that is really like let's say that's a real thing,
Speaker 4: leaving an impression behind, we don't know how that works.
Speaker 4: Maybe that was a chair that someone would go sit
Speaker 4: in and cry a long long time, or was tied
Speaker 4: to and beaten and killed, or to get dark, you know,
Speaker 4: or maybe someone had some real, real good sex in
Speaker 4: that chair, you know, like you don't know, it could
Speaker 4: be a positive thing. So it's like that could have
Speaker 4: been an evil chair or a fun chair or.
Speaker 1: A sexy chair.
Speaker 3: Sexy chair, Oh baby, oh baby baby, looking good chair.
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 3: Yes? I do.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for EVP or ev Plase have you
Speaker 1: ever heard of EVP? Yes, electronic voice phenomena. So it's
Speaker 1: when people like Zach Beggins believe that they've captured a
Speaker 1: ghost speaking. I go to YouTube dot com and I
Speaker 1: type in EVP.
Speaker 3: Nice.
Speaker 1: I find people's EVPs from all over the country, sometimes
Speaker 1: the world, and I'm going to play you too, and
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me what you believe this
Speaker 1: ghost is saying, and then I'll give you some options. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll put on these headphones. Okay, okay. So this first
Speaker 1: one comes from Haunted or Not question Mark and it
Speaker 1: was recorded by by State Paranormal at the McPike mansion
Speaker 1: in Alton, Illinois. What is this ghost saying.
Speaker 3: Damn. It sounds like he's saying it's great, like you
Speaker 3: just ate a donut. He's like, it's great.
Speaker 1: It's really deeply.
Speaker 3: Oh that's creepy. That's real creepy.
Speaker 1: I hear Ben Veren.
Speaker 3: I think you're right it is. It sounds like Ben Veren.
Speaker 1: Okay, is it a I need a break? Be hungry,
Speaker 1: ce Henry or d It's just like somebody's stomach growling.
Speaker 4: Hmm. Now that you said the hungry or the Henry,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go hungry.
Speaker 1: They believe it's Henry.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Who Henry is. But wait, what is this? Okay, the
Speaker 1: my Pike mansion. Is there a Henry? Oh there was? Okay,
Speaker 1: it was originally the owner of the mansion was Henry
Speaker 1: Guest McPike, so maybe it was him or somebody with
Speaker 1: a deep ass voice talking to him. Okay. Next one,
Speaker 1: this is from Aaron Kindall and it was in their house.
Speaker 1: What's it saying?
Speaker 3: WHOA?
Speaker 1: That's kind of a longer one. I think that they
Speaker 1: edited the sound, probably to level it out and sound better.
Speaker 3: So it's a little Yeah, there's a lot going on, but.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you have any guesses.
Speaker 3: It's just so many syllables. I know it's yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Can give you some suggestions, some choices.
Speaker 2: Okay, is it A, I'll be up in the club.
Speaker 1: Is it B help me Melinda?
Speaker 3: Fuck? Is it C?
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Are you schmuck? Schmock? Did I say that right? Shmock?
Speaker 3: Smuck?
Speaker 1: Is it D? I'm beat? Let's end this please?
Speaker 5: Hm hmm.
Speaker 3: I would I like, uh, I like B and D.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's play help me Melinda fuck? Or I'm beat,
Speaker 1: Let's end this please.
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's helped me Melinda fuck it.
Speaker 4: It's just it's very uh, kind of warped sounding, becauld
Speaker 4: it's coming from the spirit realm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
Speaker 4: You know, I think it's like it's like a very
Speaker 4: sardonic person dying or something.
Speaker 1: Help me Melinda fuck fuck.
Speaker 4: Like and just like and he's asked a couple of times, yes,
Speaker 4: she's she's frozen in the doorway.
Speaker 3: Fuck.
Speaker 4: He was like, help Melinda. And then it was just like,
Speaker 4: help me Melinda fuck.
Speaker 1: And then he just exactly that's what they believe. It says, amazing,
Speaker 1: help me Melinda. I'm obsessed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he knows Melinda's not gonna help him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well that concludes that. Let's do one last thing.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna list off some paranormal thing, okay, and
Speaker 1: you're just gonna tell me if you have any thoughts, beliefs, anything.
Speaker 1: First up, synchronicities, what do you You probably have had them, right,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure. Do you read into it like it's
Speaker 1: a paranormal thing or what.
Speaker 4: Like, uh, someone burns their hand in a stove and
Speaker 4: you feel it kind of thing, or oh.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting what I mean usually like a sign
Speaker 1: like deja vu, or like I was just thinking that
Speaker 1: and then it happened.
Speaker 4: I've always felt like this, this is this is a
Speaker 4: good a good argument for any sort of paranormal anything.
Speaker 4: To me, deja vu always felt like I saw that
Speaker 4: in a dream, So you basically dreamed of the future,
Speaker 4: which is crazy to think about that.
Speaker 1: That to me is like paranormal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that could be a good argument, because I
Speaker 4: just don't know any other I think. I'm sure there's
Speaker 4: probably something chemical that happens when you but it's just
Speaker 4: like no, I've I've had I saw that and I
Speaker 4: heard that thing. This happened already, This happened already for
Speaker 4: me and I get it. I wouldn't say like it's
Speaker 4: once a week, but it's happened regularly enough in my
Speaker 4: life to go to just.
Speaker 3: Go, okay, well there's another deja vous.
Speaker 4: It doesn't it's dejevou to me is very eerie, always
Speaker 4: has been.
Speaker 3: It's not like one of those things like weird.
Speaker 4: It feels as if where I was like, no that
Speaker 4: I it is it.
Speaker 3: It's not as if it is.
Speaker 1: To me, it's confirmation. Yeah, maybe I'm just real spiritual,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, okay, I thought this is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It did happen. That means that this is supposed to happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It was like the kind of like dead zone.
Speaker 1: Ish in a way, you know, zone.
Speaker 3: Without you, but you never knew it was coming, so
Speaker 3: you never can.
Speaker 1: You think of times that that something like that has
Speaker 1: happened to you.
Speaker 3: No actual premonition, no.
Speaker 1: Or like are there certain things if you hear this
Speaker 1: song then you know that I don't know, Like okay,
Speaker 1: for me, I had this time period in my life
Speaker 1: where I was my life was a mess for maybe
Speaker 1: about ten years, and I would always be in my
Speaker 1: car like what the hell is my life? And then
Speaker 1: I would look and I would see a stray cat.
Speaker 1: I would see stray cats, and I kept thinking, like,
Speaker 1: this only happens to me. I mean whatever, sure, whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You could read into it a million
Speaker 1: different ways, but I just remember thinking like this, I
Speaker 1: always see straight cats when my life is like in shambles.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: Sure I'll see a stray cat from time to time now,
Speaker 1: but like, it was just like a weird thing where
Speaker 1: I'm like, this feels like a sign. I feel like
Speaker 1: these cats are like, girl, get it together.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's funny when you said when you when we were
Speaker 4: talking about me coming in on the show, and you
Speaker 4: were like, have you ever had a paranormal thing happened
Speaker 4: to you? I really haven't, but I remember being dead
Speaker 4: set on that I did in a moment, but then
Speaker 4: it passed. It was one of the scariest times in
Speaker 4: my life. My parents used to when we'd go to
Speaker 4: the Oregon Coast, we'd get another family and we'd rent
Speaker 4: a house, and houses in the coast at that point
Speaker 4: were like kind of these shambling, like old old houses,
Speaker 4: and like, you know, Orgon Coast is not a place
Speaker 4: you generally go to. It's like fun in the sun.
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, for a month. The rest of the
Speaker 4: year it's raining, it's gray. You know, you think you're like,
Speaker 4: there's definitely people doing rituals on the beach. This is
Speaker 4: such a fucked up place, and it's beautiful, but it's
Speaker 4: just very it's very Gothic in its own way.
Speaker 3: And I remember just walking around this house.
Speaker 4: Remember it was a sunny day and none of the
Speaker 4: sun was getting into the house, like the windows were
Speaker 4: very small and things. And I went up in the
Speaker 4: attic and I looked and at the very there's like,
Speaker 4: you know, you.
Speaker 3: Look through a crawl space.
Speaker 4: At that back of the crawl space was a woman's
Speaker 4: head smiling at me. And I almost felt on the stairs.
Speaker 4: It was that feeling where you feel like your heart's
Speaker 4: gonna stop. And it was in these moments that's just
Speaker 4: like that was so fucked up because I was convinced
Speaker 4: there was a ghostly head right there.
Speaker 1: Can I cut off the part when you revealed.
Speaker 4: It there's a boat, but it's one of those things.
Speaker 4: It's like, what are the odds that this magazine it's
Speaker 4: perfectly preserved back there like someone had hard it. Maybe
Speaker 4: someone angled it. I don't know, but it was like
Speaker 4: I remember having that and I'm just remembering. We we
Speaker 4: talked about how the correlation between comedy and horror. I
Speaker 4: have a bit on one of my albums about it's
Speaker 4: called the Ghost of the Two Man Party and and
Speaker 4: it's on it's on I think Shovel Fighter, and it's
Speaker 4: a story of my friend and I just getting wasted
Speaker 4: in college in his mom's house and his mom was
Speaker 4: out of town, and things just started moved getting moved
Speaker 4: around the house, and we were convinced that it was
Speaker 4: a ghost, and we picked up weapons and we went
Speaker 4: room to room.
Speaker 1: So you could kick that ghost ass well.
Speaker 3: And no, we know.
Speaker 4: We were like, oh, someone's here and we're terrified. Let's
Speaker 4: let's find them. And we didn't find him, and we
Speaker 4: then we just went, well, it's a ghost. I only
Speaker 4: bring it up because I've had the crazy amount of
Speaker 4: like college kids tell me they they used to listen
Speaker 4: to that, or you know, we all get high to
Speaker 4: listen because it's like it's funny, funny, and then you're like, ah,
Speaker 4: you scream, you know, because it's like the thought.
Speaker 1: That actually also terrified horrible. Well, one of my biggest
Speaker 1: fears of somebody living in the walls or like in
Speaker 1: the attic.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's a big mind for me too, which.
Speaker 1: Is also could be an explanation for a lot of
Speaker 1: ghost stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and maybe that person died in the wall
Speaker 4: and then it's a ghost, you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think of past lives?
Speaker 4: That's a tough one for me because I just it's like, well,
Speaker 4: so what does everything have past lives?
Speaker 3: Do cows? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, I think you know. A big thing I
Speaker 4: kind of rely on a rely on a lot in
Speaker 4: terms of any kind of explanation, is like, you know,
Speaker 4: energy doesn't and it just changes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I could see.
Speaker 4: Going from thing to thing, the thing the thing I
Speaker 4: I when I try to be positive in my life,
Speaker 4: especially now where it's like I definitely have depressive fits
Speaker 4: and have times where I'm full of anxiety and stuff.
Speaker 4: But it's like, in general, I feel like I go,
Speaker 4: I said this to my wife, is like I wonder
Speaker 4: what who I'm going to be next, because I've had
Speaker 4: a real good time being Matt Bronger, And I wish
Speaker 4: everybody would just say that about themselves, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean, and and just be like you know, not
Speaker 4: that it's all about having a good time, but kind
Speaker 4: of is.
Speaker 3: And so just think about and and and to not
Speaker 3: be so attached.
Speaker 4: One of the craziest ideas to me is like the
Speaker 4: fact that I'm going to die. Like if I died now,
Speaker 4: I just be wearing this shit, I'd be wearing shorts
Speaker 4: and high socks and walking around in the clouds forever
Speaker 4: and kind of this is.
Speaker 3: How i'd always look. That's so you want, Okay, that's
Speaker 3: that's a better idea. But I just think I just
Speaker 3: don't think we keep.
Speaker 4: Our physical form if we are, say like ghosts or whatnot.
Speaker 4: You know, But I kind of like, I've never heard
Speaker 4: you choose. I like you choose.
Speaker 1: I think it seems like you get to choose how
Speaker 1: or you're most happiest or something. I had a friend
Speaker 1: the other day. It's not really my story to tell,
Speaker 1: so I'll leave them anonymous, but they called me and
Speaker 1: said that their adorable dog who recently passed came back
Speaker 1: and visited them in a dream. Whoa, And the dog
Speaker 1: was like sick and older, but it was like a
Speaker 1: little puppy again. And my friend was like, this was
Speaker 1: not a dream.
Speaker 3: This was like that's cool here.
Speaker 1: So I think that sometimes you get to go back to.
Speaker 4: Like I'm only laughing because I just think I'm imagining.
Speaker 4: Let's say, like you or I, we die at the
Speaker 4: same time, and a couple of our friends die, you know,
Speaker 4: and we see them and we definitely have made some
Speaker 4: adjustments to ourselves, like a little younger or whatever. But
Speaker 4: like some of our friends are like, what are you
Speaker 4: doing those arms? You're not ripped like that?
Speaker 1: Yes I am.
Speaker 4: Someone's just stacked or what, like, you know, just like beautifully,
Speaker 4: like you know in Olympian woman shape.
Speaker 3: You're like, no, why not? I mean, are you?
Speaker 1: That happens on the Instagram people will tag me and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I was in that picture with you. You
Speaker 1: did not have those cheek bones? How did you do that?
Speaker 4: For like at least at least fifty years in heaven,
Speaker 4: we're just clowning them.
Speaker 3: We're just like, you're going to keep that. I don't
Speaker 3: know who you are? Can you tell me who you are?
Speaker 3: That way?
Speaker 1: If we get down here? Fun, Okay, let's do one
Speaker 1: last one. What do you think of time travel?
Speaker 4: I always thought that one was complete and under bunk,
Speaker 4: But now that you know, they'll they've had that thing.
Speaker 4: Where was it, Like, was it like a the smaller
Speaker 4: version of whatever that the smaller than a molecule or
Speaker 4: an atom disappears over here and appears of a here
Speaker 4: when they look under like real real, real, real deep
Speaker 4: kind of my microscopic, microscopic, microscopic levels of life. And
Speaker 4: so the thing will just go and it'll be over here,
Speaker 4: and they're like, well, we would have seen it, and
Speaker 4: it didn't. We slowed it down, it didn't zip, it
Speaker 4: was gone and then it was here. And so there's that.
Speaker 4: There's also the concepts that like Einstein would put across
Speaker 4: that like the time is not what we think it is,
Speaker 4: and it's like, yeah, we we're still basically apes. We're
Speaker 4: still basically like just going Yeah, but I think it's
Speaker 4: like you don't.
Speaker 3: Know so for me to go, I just didn't.
Speaker 4: I couldn't imagine how it would work to actually go
Speaker 4: back or go for like how would you make that happen?
Speaker 4: But there might be a time where someone I mean
Speaker 4: I'm scared of that. I'm very scared of someone using
Speaker 4: the technology for their own and yeah, because it's just
Speaker 4: there's one thing I believe and I believe in human greed,
Speaker 4: and it makes you know, it's that that that that that.
Speaker 3: Pebble of evil.
Speaker 4: You throw that into the in the mix, and it
Speaker 4: just pollutes the who pollutes the whole soup. So you know,
Speaker 4: it's it's interesting, but it's it's I that's that's the
Speaker 4: one thing you've said that that I go, I hope
Speaker 4: it's not real. I know, you know, like I don't
Speaker 4: really hope ghosts aren't real. I just think it's an
Speaker 4: interesting idea. And it's I like therow. I like the
Speaker 4: kind of Gothic romanticism of it, and a little bit
Speaker 4: and and and kind of having the the essence of
Speaker 4: the past kind of still be with us and and
Speaker 4: things like that, or the fact that I mean, Scott
Speaker 4: Thompson did a one, one person show about his his
Speaker 4: brother who died, and his brother had problems his entire life,
Speaker 4: and Scott had a breakdown at one point after he
Speaker 4: was gone and was like I'm just fucking, you know,
Speaker 4: just doing total Scott, like, I just I'm tired and
Speaker 4: I don't need this shit, and he goes, if you
Speaker 4: could just tell me you're okay. It was something like that,
Speaker 4: and a light turned on in his house. Like next
Speaker 4: to him and it's one of those and he's like,
Speaker 4: no bullshit. I know it sounds like bullshit, but it's
Speaker 4: like to me, I'm like, that's beautiful.
Speaker 3: That's beautiful.
Speaker 4: Just you know, not the fucking you just assume a
Speaker 4: form in front of you with glowing white too much brilliance.
Speaker 3: But just something.
Speaker 4: Like a little sign a song starts playing like something
Speaker 4: like that that just go.
Speaker 3: You know, I love the story.
Speaker 4: Of Houdini and his wife, which everyone would die first.
Speaker 4: Please let me know that it's and neither one day
Speaker 4: never she died first, and she never you know, he
Speaker 4: never got any evidence of her saying something. But at
Speaker 4: the same time, maybe you know that was that that
Speaker 4: was also her choice in a sense, to be like
Speaker 4: he thinks he wants this sign, but it's not going
Speaker 4: to do well for him.
Speaker 1: That Who knows, when you die, you might learn a
Speaker 1: whole set of rules.
Speaker 4: If nothing else. I hope we get real perspective. I
Speaker 4: hope you get like, oh that's what it's about. Yes,
Speaker 4: you know, okay, I thought, because that's the thing I've
Speaker 4: learned as I've gotten older, is I can, on a
Speaker 4: weekly bake basis take the stuff I learned the week
Speaker 4: before and throw away half of it and go, Nope,
Speaker 4: I thought it was this because I and I won't
Speaker 4: even I shouldn't say learned. I surmised, I know how
Speaker 4: it is.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. No, I don't.
Speaker 4: So you know, you you talk to me ten fifteen
Speaker 4: years ago, I would probably be a little more cynical
Speaker 4: on this thing, But now I'm just like, I just
Speaker 4: don't know.
Speaker 3: It's a cool idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. Well, and then maybe something will happen
Speaker 1: where you're like, Okay, I can't explain that, right, Maybe
Speaker 1: it'll open your mind. So what if if somebody was like, hey,
Speaker 1: we need you to stay in this hotel room for
Speaker 1: this job or whatever, and it is very haunted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what would you How would you feel about that? I
Speaker 1: would be scared.
Speaker 4: I would probably freak me out because I have a
Speaker 4: pretty fertile imagination and I've always been that. I always
Speaker 4: had that that fear that I think most of us had,
Speaker 4: where it's just like if I if I think of it,
Speaker 4: I'll manifest it. It'll come true because something dark is
Speaker 4: listening to me and has the power to make this
Speaker 4: thing form.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and will Well.
Speaker 1: I'm always like a ghost is probably so excited that
Speaker 1: I'm here, like they're gonna totally want to hang out
Speaker 1: with me.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean with the boring people that come to this
Speaker 1: hotel room, like this ghost is probably like jackpot.
Speaker 4: No no offense to those dudes, the paranormal dudes.
Speaker 1: Just show me the ghost.
Speaker 3: God, bro, bro, bro Bro, there's no.
Speaker 1: Chare Bro's wing that smells like soulfur.
Speaker 4: You show up and you're interesting and have a sense
Speaker 4: of style, and you're not literally every one of the
Speaker 4: Buffalo wild Wings six and field, that ghost will be like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, thank.
Speaker 1: You, thank you.
Speaker 3: Brad.
Speaker 4: Just sit with me and tell me what's going on lately,
Speaker 4: because I just keep having dudes in fucking affliction shirts
Speaker 4: that are too tight on their beer bellies and I'm
Speaker 4: I'm just getting fed of it.
Speaker 3: Listen, one or two, great, but give me a mix?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Is there more?
Speaker 1: How do we sell this show?
Speaker 3: I'm from the eighteen hundreds. Can you do you have
Speaker 3: any black friends? Oh my god, I never was allowed
Speaker 3: to have any like you just you know that kind
Speaker 3: of thing.
Speaker 1: See, I want to go someth for like queer ghosts
Speaker 1: and like, yes, show them what's up? Take them around. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: show them what it's like these days. Hey, this is
Speaker 1: about it. This is that we did.
Speaker 3: Oh I love it. This is so fun.
Speaker 1: Tell me about your special.
Speaker 3: It's called Doug.
Speaker 4: It's named after a terrible man I met on vacation
Speaker 4: with my wife, and it's just at twenty twenty, I
Speaker 4: had a special all set and then as you know,
Speaker 4: all the well there was a hoax that kept no
Speaker 4: all all these I put it all the dick joke
Speaker 4: and Portiums closed down. So my job went to But
Speaker 4: we had a kid, so I came to stay at
Speaker 4: home dad, and over the course of a year, I
Speaker 4: threw away a lot of my material because we did
Speaker 4: everything from have this kind of strangely healthy pandemic experience
Speaker 4: because I've just cocooned with this kid. But also we
Speaker 4: dropped it all, lost our minds, and drove thirty three
Speaker 4: hundred miles across the country from LA to Boston during
Speaker 4: an election year in an electric car with California plates
Speaker 4: through the South. So I got a lot of stories
Speaker 4: under that, a lot of which are just well I
Speaker 4: thought it was this, but no, it's this, and it's
Speaker 4: better than they've been telling us in terms of interactions
Speaker 4: and things like that, but also flashing back to my
Speaker 4: more garbage days where I was working horrible jobs but
Speaker 4: I was strangely happy and why is that? And then
Speaker 4: kind of my marriage to what I call a pirate
Speaker 4: woman like my wife is incredible. There's stuff I didn't
Speaker 4: even talk about because it would take up too much time.
Speaker 4: I was at my wife's first wedding and wasted and going,
Speaker 4: I'm not in love with that person, even though we
Speaker 4: hooked up like a week ago. Like I could write
Speaker 4: a book about the dysfunction of our relationship and how
Speaker 4: it led to a good thing and now and then
Speaker 4: it just ends in the story A funny story about
Speaker 4: this guy we met on vacation where we were definitely
Speaker 4: like the.
Speaker 3: Least rich people at this very exclusive resort.
Speaker 4: We got turned in all these frequent flower miles and
Speaker 4: we're like, let's go to Anguilla. And this really rich
Speaker 4: dude and his wife were so bad. I really think,
Speaker 4: especially speaking as a man, we need obviously many good examples,
Speaker 4: but of course, just like people need fresh air, we
Speaker 4: need bad ones too. You have to meet that guy
Speaker 4: and be like I can never fucking be you know.
Speaker 4: It's like I like to drink, I like to party.
Speaker 4: I will not be embarrassing at the expense of my kid.
Speaker 3: All that jazz. They were people who.
Speaker 4: Judged everybody and were, let's just say, racially insensitive.
Speaker 3: And we're in active resentment the fact that they had
Speaker 3: three kids.
Speaker 4: If they were ordered at gunpoint to appropriate or something
Speaker 4: where my wife and I hadn't even talked about having
Speaker 4: a kid yet. I don't even think we're maybe engaged,
Speaker 4: I forget. But it's just kind of this story of
Speaker 4: going through and it's got this crazy twist ending where
Speaker 4: I call someone out of the audience and it's a
Speaker 4: big reveal, and I did it for the better part
Speaker 4: of a year. This hour move stuff around, but I
Speaker 4: always close the dug story because I'd bring a stranger
Speaker 4: on stage and it's like a magic trick reveal. And
Speaker 4: I used to have to put out fires whenever i'd
Speaker 4: play a club or a theater, where people would just
Speaker 4: post it and I'd go, can you take this down?
Speaker 4: I'm saving it, and they'd go, oh sure, and they
Speaker 4: did to a man or a woman, a non binary person.
Speaker 4: They all took him down. They all took them down,
Speaker 4: and it was like, Okay, thank God. And so now
Speaker 4: this is the thing, and it's on video and demand now,
Speaker 4: so you kind of rent it like a like a
Speaker 4: cheaper movie or something. But I'm only doing that, you
Speaker 4: know, not only to pay for the production costs, but also
Speaker 4: kind of be like, ooh, save the reveal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't tell.
Speaker 1: So I love having like a magic trick or a.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I just wanted to be a cathartic hour
Speaker 4: where you just kind of just go I just want
Speaker 4: to forget what's going on in the world for a minute.
Speaker 3: But have a little bit of uplift, but just to
Speaker 3: have fun.
Speaker 4: Like I've kind of trying to I'm trying to promote
Speaker 4: it as something to be like just chill out, get
Speaker 4: friends together and watch it under like a party thing.
Speaker 4: I've had people that send me pictures of like everybody
Speaker 4: in the living room we're watching Doug kind of thing. So,
Speaker 4: and it's also a fun dichotomy because every other dog
Speaker 4: I met my life is awesome. Dougs are super chill,
Speaker 4: Like that was so ironic that this douchebag.
Speaker 1: Was nicked dog of all names, the one dog exactly.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well where do people find that?
Speaker 4: Just you just put in Matt Bronker or Doug on
Speaker 4: whatever app you're looking at. It won't not Netflix because
Speaker 4: Netflix is all free if you pay a script subscription,
Speaker 4: but literally any other thing that where that has like
Speaker 4: you can rent stuff.
Speaker 1: So amazing. Yeah, well thanks for talking.
Speaker 3: Super great. This was awesome, what a fun, fun podcast.
Speaker 4: And I loved having like a chance to just like
Speaker 4: riff with you but also be like, oh, let's get
Speaker 4: like a little sincere and weird, like talk about what
Speaker 4: we really believe based.
Speaker 3: On our life experiences.
Speaker 4: Like that was so fun because as soon as people
Speaker 4: say ghosts.
Speaker 3: But it's like, I like scary stuff, I like weird stuff.
Speaker 1: Like we all have thoughts on this step, whether we
Speaker 1: actually ever think about it or not. And I and
Speaker 1: I think it's a fun. It's fun to have this
Speaker 1: podcast because it kind of makes a lot of people
Speaker 1: think about this for the first time when they come on,
Speaker 1: or they've never shared their thoughts on this. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just I think it's an interesting way to to
Speaker 1: get to know people or to just I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just a different side of people that it's fun
Speaker 1: to explore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's not something you typically find people being
Speaker 4: comfortable talking about in like a cocktail party setting.
Speaker 1: Well, but you're awesome. I go to people and I
Speaker 1: tell me, what do you think of a ghost? You've
Speaker 1: been on a lost feel of murder mansion.
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's break in.
Speaker 1: Thank you Matt Broger. Check out his special. Are you
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