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Speaker 2: Welcome to this League Uncut in the rule of twenty

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Speaker 3: It's time, work's time. It's so time.

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Speaker 1: A hearty welcome in everyone to the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: this League Uncut. Mark Stein here with Chris Haynes. We

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Speaker 4: This This is I don't I get New Orleans. I

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Speaker 4: And lastly, on this guy, you know I sit coach

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Speaker 5: Be honest, you don't care. It doesn't matter who.

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Speaker 4: to ten two around this time of year. But we'll

438
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Speaker 4: see if I get them along, we'll see, I'll see

439
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 4: what type of mood he's in. But I'm gonna shock

440
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Speaker 4: you with my pick the most intriguing.

441
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 1: Okay that means that means it's not Bucks Pacers, then no.

442
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 4: It is Bucks Pacers with the Bucks Pacers. And if

443
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 4: I'm going with the Bucks Pacers, because there's been a

444
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 4: ton of storylines between these two teams throughout this season.

445
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 4: There was the end season tournament the Pacers took eliminated

446
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 4: the Bucks. There was Tyrese Halliburton tapping his wrist doing

447
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,879
Speaker 4: the dame, doing the Dame signal. You had Yanna's getting

448
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 4: a career high at home against the Pacers, and then

449
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 4: he trying to get the ball, but the Pacers took

450
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 4: the game ball and was trying to give it and

451
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 4: try to give it to a rookie who scored his

452
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 4: first point, not his first basket. He actually scored one

453
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 4: free throw. He made one of to his free throws,

454
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 4: and that caused Jannis to try to storm back to

455
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Speaker 4: get back there to the Pacers locker room. So it's

456
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: just a lot of talk we have, and I have

457
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 4: Malik Beasley come on my Bleacher Report Live obsession and

458
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 4: he said he wants to see the Pacers and you know,

459
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: they're not gonna know where hit him coming. Excuse me,

460
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Speaker 4: They're not gonna know what hit them when we come.

461
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Speaker 4: So that is the matchup, that is the series that

462
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Speaker 4: I'm looking for to. Even though Janni's looks like Giannis

463
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 4: won't be there for a little bit, I'm still looking

464
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Speaker 4: toward for to that matchup because I still think it's

465
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Speaker 4: gonna be competitive.

466
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Speaker 1: Do you think plays in any of that series?

467
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 5: I do. I think he makes it.

468
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 4: I think he can make a return at some point

469
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 4: in that series, Yes, I do.

470
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Speaker 1: Can they beat the Pacers without him?

471
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Speaker 4: I believe they're capable of of doing it. Can they

472
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Speaker 4: They got Milwaukee has home court advantage. You gotta give

473
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Speaker 4: him that. Yeah, I think they can. It's gonna be tough,

474
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: though Dame has to Dame has to be Dame. Dame

475
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 4: has to be Dame. One thing about Dame is that

476
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 4: he's comfortable in that lead role. So, uh, you know,

477
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 4: I know he's been getting treatment all this week. He's

478
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 4: been focused, narrowly focused, telling you focus. You know, we

479
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 4: have a there's a group chat that him and uh

480
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 4: that I'm in with him and a couple other people,

481
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: and he's really he's active on that chat, but not

482
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 4: this week. This week he's zoned in. He's laser focused.

483
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 4: So they're capable of doing. But that's the matchup I

484
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 4: want to see.

485
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Speaker 5: There's just so much. There's so much that happen between

486
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 5: these two teams this season.

487
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, the Pacers play at a faster

488
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: pace than just about anybody, although it has slowed to

489
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: bit some here late in the season. But obviously we

490
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: know they want to play fast and make the game

491
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Speaker 1: pacy for the Bucks. And how Milwaukee will cope with

492
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Speaker 1: that if they don't have Giannis for a game, for

493
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Speaker 1: two games, for three games, whatever, It is one of

494
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: the major question marks in the first round. But we

495
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: also have to say, you know, Tyrese Haliburton, he has

496
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: not been the same Tyrese Haliburton we saw before the

497
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. Before the hamstring injury, he was an All

498
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,959
Speaker 1: NBA lock and really one of the ten best players

499
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Speaker 1: in the league.

500
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Speaker 3: And his NO.

501
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: Numbers took a significant drop when he came back from

502
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: that injury. Shooting dip to the forty four percent range

503
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: from the field, his three point conversion went way down

504
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: below thirty five percent. Scoring dropped to about sixteen a.

505
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Speaker 3: Game, So.

506
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: That will be another thing to really watch in that series.

507
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: What is the state of Halliburton's game. I mean the Pacers,

508
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: they were only twenty three and eighteen. After acquiring Pascal Siakam,

509
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: I thought they would be better, but they finished the

510
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: season with a reasonable bump, and I'm sure they think

511
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: that they can shock the world and knock Milwaukee out

512
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: because again, Indye did win four of the five regular

513
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: season meetings, even though they were all before I mean,

514
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: I think they were all wrapped up by January third.

515
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 1: So it's been a long time since we've seen these

516
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: teams that really don't like each other. That is the

517
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: standout series in the East. I'm not gonna pretend it's not,

518
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: but just to be a little different and to expand

519
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: the convo, I do think Nick's six ers is another

520
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: good one that you know, New York wanted the number

521
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: two seed, even though that meant that they were gonna

522
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: get Philly or Miami. They wanted the smoke. They're gonna

523
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: get it now. Philly has to be feeling really good

524
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: about itself again to play such a tough team like Miami,

525
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: go down by fifteen, find a way to dig themselves

526
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: out of that hole. We know that gritty wins in

527
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs have not exactly been plentiful in Philadelphia over

528
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 1: the years, so that was impressive. And you know, the

529
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 1: state of Joel Embiid's health is another major health topic

530
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: that we need to keep our eye on because he's

531
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: only been back for ten games or so, and I

532
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: think you saw in the playing game there were times

533
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: he was clearly fatigued. He is still not anywhere close

534
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: to one, but still a great shot maker, drained a

535
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: few clutch threes, big pass to Oubre to spark that

536
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: fourth quarter surge, and just obviously having Embiid on the floor,

537
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: the gravity of what he's capable of offensively changes the game.

538
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a real That Knick sixer series,

539
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: I think is also gonna be really good.

540
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 5: I agree with you.

541
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Speaker 4: That would have been my number two pick in the

542
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 4: Eastern Conference. I'm looking forward to that. I actually have

543
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 4: Game two that Game one, so my first game will

544
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: be Monday, Nick Sixers, looking forward to that.

545
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 1: But don't you also have a Boston game in there.

546
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: Right after Nick Sixers. I got Game two Boston and

547
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 4: whoever they face?

548
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: Yea, see, even you, even you can't prepare because you

549
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: don't know who the other team is.

550
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 4: I'll be all right, issue, I'll be all right. I'm

551
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: I'm in much better position than Boston. I'll be okay.

552
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: I'll make producer Ryan any votes for Calves Magic.

553
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 6: See, the problem is, you guys are a bunch of elitists,

554
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 6: and I will take the NBA TV Invitational in Calves. Listen,

555
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 6: you got a young Magic team. They've been waiting for

556
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 6: their time to come back and finally win another playoff series.

557
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 6: You got Palo ban Cao. Could he be the next

558
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 6: big star in the Eastern Conference. And look the Calves.

559
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 6: They made a big move for Donovan Mitchell. It hasn't

560
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 6: necessarily paid off for a long postseason run. Is this

561
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 6: the year or is you know some of the whispers

562
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 6: we've been hearing that perhaps teams could start sniffing around

563
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 6: looking for a future Donovan Mitchell trade once again. So

564
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 6: I'll go ahead and take it. You guys. You guys

565
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 6: aren't taking it. You guys are making your little jokes,

566
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 6: taking your little pot shots.

567
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: Alrighty not me, r not me.

568
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 6: That's all star star, that's guilty by association.

569
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 5: Well, hey, well, this this is the question I have.

570
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 5: Rye up.

571
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 4: But first of all, I start, you know, I don't

572
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,959
Speaker 4: know what NBA TV did the start to make him

573
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: do that, just throw a shots like that. But Brian,

574
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 4: since you're selling it, you're promoting it, You're you're, you know,

575
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 4: selling the stars that we have in that series. Are

576
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 4: you saying that these two teams should not be an

577
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 4: NBA TV invitational and that they should be a TNT

578
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: ESPN primetime game.

579
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 5: Is that what you're saying?

580
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 6: Well, listen, I think NBA TV provides its own value,

581
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 6: so there's no need to say that there's any type

582
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 6: of promotion or demotion based off of the network that

583
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 6: you're on. And Plus, by the way, we got to

584
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 6: pull for the great Jamal Moseley, friend of the show

585
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 6: guest on the show, So I'll go, I'll go with

586
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 6: the Orlando Magic in the Cleveland Cavaliers.

587
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: Well, a couple things here. There is no question that

588
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: there is a great deal of curiosity bubbling league wide

589
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: about Donovan Mitchell's future and will he sign a contract

590
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: extent this offseason and if he doesn't, will that force

591
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: the Cavaliers to admit that they need to trade him

592
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: before losing him out right because he would only have

593
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: one guaranteed season left on his deal. And obviously how

594
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: well the Calves do in the playoffs figures to be

595
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: a factor in that extension calculus for Donovan Mitchell. So

596
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: you know what, though, Ryan, since you are so high

597
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: on this series, I think we're gonna make it a

598
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: feature of the next couple of pods that you We're

599
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: gonna We're gonna carve out a little time so you

600
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: can give us some updates on how that series is

601
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: playing out, because yes, we'll just you are you are

602
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,399
Speaker 1: the Calves Magic correspondent for this league on cot star Stein.

603
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 4: That would actually require require producer Ryan to get NBA TV.

604
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 5: Hey come on, now, come.

605
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: On, Producer Ryan has it. His day job is like

606
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, he's the glue of the whole Colin Cowhart operation,

607
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: so he watches every game copious notes.

608
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 3: I have no doubts.

609
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: I have no doubts that we will be getting some

610
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 1: glorious insights from the NBA TV Invitational. Calves Magic can't wait. Okay,

611
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: best series in the West, best first round series. Your

612
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: choices are Oklahoma City, which does not yet know if

613
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: they'll be playing the Sacramento Kings or the New Orleans Pelicans.

614
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 1: They will find that out for sure Friday Night, the

615
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: defending champion Denver Nuggets against the seventh seeded LA Lakers.

616
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: The Lakers, by the way, the first team in league

617
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: history to qualify for the playoffs three times via the

618
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: NBA Tournament twice as a number seven seed. Now is

619
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Speaker 1: a number eight seed. The Lakers are three and zero

620
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: in their pit history. Three qualifications for the playoffs through

621
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: the play in for the Lakers. Then there's the three

622
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: to six. This is tough. Minnesota Phoenix, the most successful

623
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: season on paper in wolve's history, and they've got to

624
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: open up in Round one against the Suns, team that

625
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: has won all three regular season matchups between the teams,

626
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: and in the series, not the season, the series that

627
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: I'll be covering Clippers Mavericks four to five, Act three

628
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 1: in the Luka Doncic Versus the Clip Show trilogy. Third

629
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: time in five years that the Mavericks and Clippers will

630
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: be hooking up in the playoffs. Chris Haynes, you get

631
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: the first pick. What is the best first round series

632
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: out of the four on offer in the West?

633
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Speaker 4: Well, that's a great slate of games in the Western

634
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 4: Conference field. I will say that I don't think you

635
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 4: can go wrong with pretty much any of those selections.

636
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna go similarly to what I did with

637
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 4: Milwaukee and the Pacers. I'm going with history. What's a

638
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 4: series that has history? And then I'm gonna take a

639
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 4: page out of producer Ryan's playbook. He gave a shout

640
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 4: out to coach Jamal Moseley came on, So I'm gonna

641
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: talk about the other head coach that came on our

642
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: show where we actually did a live show live from

643
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: Las Vegas.

644
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 5: I'm going with the Los Angeles Lakers and the Denver.

645
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 4: Nuggets because of their history, because coach Ham said he

646
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 4: wanted some get back for what Denver did to them

647
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 4: in the playoffs last year. In the Western Conference finals,

648
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 4: to be exact, they wanted this opportunity, and instant people

649
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 4: were talking about the Lakers should lose the game and

650
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 4: against New Orleans to try to beat the ninth or

651
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 4: ten seed for the eighth seed, just so they don't

652
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 4: face Denver in the first round.

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Speaker 5: Who does that? What competitor does that?

654
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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 4: How can you like lose the first playing game and

656
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Speaker 4: then just rish your whole season on trying to win

657
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 4: against a team that just won and they got some confidence,

658
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 4: Like it don't make any sense. If you're a competitor,

659
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,720
Speaker 4: you play to win. Lakers did what they were supposed

660
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 4: to do. They handle New Orleans. Now they're facing Denver,

661
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 4: and this is what I want to see. This is

662
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Speaker 4: what everybody wants to see. It might it might have

663
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Speaker 4: it been in the Western Conference finals as far as

664
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Speaker 4: what win people wanted to see them, But we want

665
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Speaker 4: to see this matchup. The history is there, let's get

666
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Speaker 4: it going. That's my intriguing matchup in the West Oknference.

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00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: Look, you go with Nuggets Lakers, and you are more

668
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: than entitled. I do just feel the need to remind

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Speaker 1: you that Darvin Ham, who we loved beyond words, having

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Speaker 1: on that line show in Las Vegas. But I do

671
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Speaker 1: need to remind you that if we're gonna make that

672
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Speaker 1: a requirement. Coach of the Year candidate Jamal Moseley in

673
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 1: the East, He's been on the show, Tylu Clippers Coach,

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Speaker 1: He's been on the show. Chris Finch, Timberwolves coach, has

675
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Speaker 1: even done a live show with us, like Darvin Ham

676
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Speaker 1: And I think I'm leaving somebody out. So I think

677
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Speaker 1: those are all the coach I think those are all

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Speaker 1: the playoff coaches who've been on with us. There might

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Speaker 1: be more that I just can't fully remember somebody.

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Speaker 4: Damn, Can I pick the whole field? Or do I

681
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 4: have to pick a series? I mean I gotta pick.

682
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Speaker 4: I gotta pick something you can pick.

683
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Speaker 1: No, we only want you to pick one series. I'm

684
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Speaker 1: just saying that a coach appearing on the show might

685
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Speaker 1: not work as the as the driving force behind.

686
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Speaker 4: Well, it worked for producer Ryan. And you just say

687
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Speaker 4: a word. And now that I said, now you want

688
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Speaker 4: to condemn me.

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Speaker 3: I was just shocked too.

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Speaker 1: I was just shocked at producer. I was caught off

691
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Speaker 1: guard that producer Ryan actually wanted to talk. I thought

692
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Speaker 1: I was throwing him a grenade but he was hyped that.

693
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Speaker 1: I put him in the corner to.

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Speaker 6: The coach that's still alive, Uh, coach Mike Brown of

695
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Speaker 6: the Kings.

696
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Speaker 3: Make Brown.

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Speaker 6: We don't know officially if they will be in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: As I left somebody out are still alive. So like sick?

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Speaker 6: What is that?

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Speaker 1: Six of the five or six of the sixteen playoff coaches?

701
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Speaker 1: And you said if Mike Brown's not in the playoffs yet,

702
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: but let's see if they can beat the Pels. But yeah,

703
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: so if Mike Brown makes it, that's one, two, three, four,

704
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Speaker 1: at least five playoff coaches have been on this show.

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Speaker 5: Hold on, what are the coaches again? You know what?

706
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Speaker 5: That's why I think coach fence. Thank you, coach Fence.

707
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Speaker 5: You know why I think coach Fence. He broke the.

708
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Speaker 4: Streak because for for a while, the all we did

709
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 4: was have black hair coaches over. I was like, what's what's.

710
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 5: Going on here?

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00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: Why we can't why wha why why do we only

712
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Speaker 4: get these black coaches here? I love them, I'll tackle,

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Speaker 4: I accept them. But thank you Coach Finch. The first

714
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 4: non black head coach to come on this league podcast.

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Speaker 5: I could say it.

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Speaker 1: So let me see We've had Coach Moseley, We've had

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Speaker 1: Coach Brown, We've had Coach Ham, We've had Coach lou

718
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Speaker 1: We've had Coach Finch. Am I leaving anybody out?

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Speaker 5: I believe that. I believe that's it. I believe that's it.

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Speaker 1: Because Jason Kidd and Rick Carlottle Jason Kidd and Rick

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00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: Carlisle came on my radio show, but they have not

722
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Speaker 1: yet been on this podcast.

723
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Speaker 5: Well, thank you, thank you, Coach Finch.

724
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 4: He made history on this league uncut podcast.

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Speaker 1: History history. All right. My choice for the sexiest first

726
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: round series? I bet you're thinking that I'm automatically gonna

727
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: say MAVs Clippers, and look, MAVs Clippers is really good.

728
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: But I mean, am I allowed to do it? Toss up?

729
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm really intrigued by Wolves Sons. Wolf's Sons is fascinating

730
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: to me because, again, this is ground we've covered in

731
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Speaker 1: the past. But the Minnesota Timberwolves thirty four prior seasons

732
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: in franchise history, they've only won two playoff rounds in

733
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 1: all that time, in thirty plus years. Poor Scott Shapiro,

734
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:30,359
Speaker 1: friend of the show and iHeart podcast, maestro, longtime, long

735
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: suffering Wolves fan. He's only seen his team win two

736
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 1: playoff rounds in thirty something years, so there's is huge

737
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: pressure on Minnesota. Plus you've got this crazy ownership scandal

738
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 1: that's hanging over the whole franchise. The Wolves were in

739
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: the mix for the number one seed the whole season.

740
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: They end up dropping to number three, even though they

741
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: finished only one game in the standings behind Oklahoma City

742
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 1: and Denver. And now the Wolves as a third seed,

743
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: they have to open up against the very dangerous Phoenix Suns.

744
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: And if the Wolves win that series, then they've got

745
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: a deal with Denver and the Nuggets will have the

746
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: home court advantage. So Minnesota's playoff path is about as

747
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: difficult as it could be. So look, obviously I am

748
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: going to be dialed in and locked in to Clippers

749
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: MAVs Part three, but I put Wolves and Sons right

750
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: in the same tier. Producer, Ryan, I guess for you

751
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: that leaves OKC and whoever makes that, whoever makes that,

752
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: whoever advances out of the plan, tell us why you're

753
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: excited about OKAC as the number one seede.

754
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 6: Well you know this is fitting if I do say

755
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 6: so myself. If you remember very early in the regular season.

756
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 6: I had said, I, go, are we supposed to be

757
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 6: buying into the Thunder? Do we think the Thunder are

758
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 6: for real? And you, Mark Stein, you laughed at me.

759
00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 5: You laughed at me.

760
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 6: We would be making a topic out of the Thunder.

761
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 6: And so guess what here we are. It is April,

762
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 6: the playoffs are ready to begin, and they are the

763
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 6: number one seed in the Western Conference. So look, we've

764
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 6: seen this before with the Thunder. They got young talent,

765
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 6: they draft, well.

766
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: Our seats are made up. I don't remember any of

767
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: these you know what I've been quoted for this second time.

768
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 6: Okay, I backed you up on the misquote from Chris,

769
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 6: but this was a real off air conversation.

770
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: So okay, this might have really happened, and I just

771
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: don't I really just probably don't.

772
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 6: You said it in jes like, no big deal, just

773
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 6: because I was fascinated to see this young Thunder team

774
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 6: start the regular season so strongly. But yeah, no, Look,

775
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 6: I think this is going to be fascinating to see

776
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 6: if this young group of players for the Thunder, which

777
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 6: have obviously shown great promise in the regular season, could

778
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 6: do it in the postseason. And I think there aren't

779
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 6: any questions about how long they'll be together, but obviously

780
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 6: the comparisons are always going to live. That is this

781
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 6: the next you know, Kevin Durant, Westbrook James Harden team

782
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 6: that can make a run to the finals. So there's

783
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 6: my pitch for why you should buy into the Thunder

784
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 6: in this first round of the playoffs.

785
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 5: So are the Thunder and whoever they play, are they

786
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 5: in the NBA TV what do you call it the ball.

787
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: NBA TV Invitational? I would say yeah, I would I

788
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: would say I would say that that's a likely scenario.

789
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: Well, producer Ry needs to subscribe to NBA TV so

790
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 4: he could watch both of his marquee matchups. Uh, and

791
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 4: definitely don't be on the road because you know it's

792
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 4: hard to catch NBA TV on when you're in a hotel.

793
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 5: Hey, listen, the playtales don't have it.

794
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,439
Speaker 6: The playoffs are all about role players understanding their job

795
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 6: and executing. And I understand my role here. It is

796
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 6: the NBA TV Invitational matchups and I'm just here to execute.

797
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: All right, Hold on, real quick, sell the series like

798
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 4: you sold Orlando and Cleveland. Sell this series, man, But

799
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 4: you know both scenarios, this one.

800
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 6: This one's okay both scenarios. Huh, all right, well man,

801
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 6: I am I'm gonna struggle with this one.

802
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 3: The East matchup was a lot easier.

803
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 4: Why is he struggling, stive? Why is he struggling if

804
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 4: this is his most He's composed. He shouldn't be struggling

805
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: if this is his series, if this is his pit o, man,

806
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: why was he struggling to sell?

807
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna give him a chance to redeem himself with

808
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: some coverage of this.

809
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yeah, the coverage is where I'll be able

810
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 6: to back this up.

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Speaker 5: You know, he couldn't sell it. He couldn't sell it.

812
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 5: We gave him the products. He couldn't sell it. You

813
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 5: will be a horrible drug dealer. Produce a Ryan horrible

814
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 5: drug dealer.

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Speaker 6: I guess, I guess I made the right choice in

816
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 6: not pursuing that.

817
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, let's try to end this show and restore

818
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: a touch of order here, although I'm not sure that

819
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: our final topic will exactly achieve that. But like I

820
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: said from the beginning, there were twenty five things we

821
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: could have talked about today, and you know we will

822
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,200
Speaker 1: as time goes on. We will get to future of

823
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: the Warriors, Let's see if the Kings actually make the

824
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: playoffs and see if knocking out the Warriors what that

825
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: can do for the Kings going forward. Let's see if

826
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: they can capitalize on that win Tuesday night and build

827
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: off that and actually get into the Final eight by

828
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: beating a week in New Orleans. Team We'll talk about

829
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Speaker 1: Team USA down the road. Obviously, we have plenty of

830
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: time to get into that, get into their roster, and

831
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: we didn't make any time to get into the Johntay

832
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: Porter story, which is just that's probably a podcast in

833
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: itself to see the league and the ruling they issued

834
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: this week to suspend him after an investigation that turned

835
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: up a number of gambling transgressions. But we can get

836
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: back to some of those topics in the future.

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Speaker 6: M H.

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00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: More timely and probably the more fitting end this week.

839
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Speaker 1: Just the other day on Inside the NBA, before that

840
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: Kings win at home over the Warriors, Chris Haynes was

841
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 1: summoned to give his pregame report from Sacramento on Inside

842
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: the NBA, and here's what happened.

843
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 5: Oh, I was the MVP in the Filipino league that

844
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Speaker 5: I'm in.

845
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 4: Hereat I'm not.

846
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Speaker 5: Philippa but you know I got I'm gonna guess.

847
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 7: I know I'm gonna get it trouble to ask this question,

848
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 7: how many the Filipino has been drafted into the NBA.

849
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Speaker 5: That's gonna question many?

850
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Speaker 1: Christ All right, enjoy the guy.

851
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 7: I know it's Filipino name too. What's the Filipino name?

852
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 7: You're right, man, was nice and.

853
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Speaker 1: Lots going on in that clip, Chris Haynes, Lots going on,

854
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this the minute. The minute you

855
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: finished speaking, one of my readers on my sub stack

856
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: instantly messaged me and said it was only a matter

857
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: of time before Haynes started talking about his rec league

858
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 1: play on inside the NBA. So it is well known nationally,

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00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: you know what I have to say. One of my

860
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: first takeaways though, watching that was the hey, EJ and

861
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: Shaq knew your whole rec league history. It started to

862
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 1: make me think, are these guys listening to the show.

863
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: Maybe they listen, Maybe Ernie is a frequent listener to

864
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: this league uncut and we just never knew it.

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna give you some background info that nobody

866
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Speaker 4: knows about.

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Speaker 5: Which would which would?

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Speaker 4: I think it would get you to understand how that

869
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Speaker 4: whole conversation came about on air. So prior to me

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Speaker 4: going on inside the NBA, you know, they have you

871
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 4: check in with the studio crew, make sure the sound

872
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 4: and everything is right, and they say, all right, check

873
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 4: in with Ernie.

874
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 5: Check in with the boys.

875
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,279
Speaker 4: So you say hi to Ernie, say hi to Shaq, Canny, Chuck,

876
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: make sure you can hear them, make sure they can

877
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: hear you.

878
00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 5: And usually, you know, obviously with those guys, we start talking.

879
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 4: And so Shaq said, you know what, I don't know

880
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,960
Speaker 4: what they were talking about before I came on, but

881
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 4: then when I got on again, we're off air at

882
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 4: this point. When I got on, Shack is including me

883
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,080
Speaker 4: in a two on two basketball game. He was like,

884
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 4: all right, final, forget, forget it.

885
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 5: It's Shaq. Shaq said, it's me and him versus Chuck

886
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 5: and Kenny.

887
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 3: And I heard that.

888
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh shoot, oh yeah, yeah, we got that shock.

889
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 5: And Shaq said you with me. I'm like, yeah, I'm

890
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 5: with your Shack. We got that.

891
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 4: And so then we were kind of talking about the

892
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 4: leagues I was in then. So Ernie heard all of this.

893
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 4: So that's why Ernie set me up. That's why Ernie said,

894
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 4: isn't that cleve.

895
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Speaker 1: So neither Ernie nor Shack have ever listened to this league.

896
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 4: I'm about saying that maybe maybe Ernie did for us.

897
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 4: Why he asked, I don't know, but Ernie asked a question.

898
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 5: That's what got that.

899
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 4: At the end of the clip, Ernie was like, Chris,

900
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 4: I'm sorry I asked. I'm I'm sorry I asked. And

901
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 4: so that's that's where that came up. So, uh, you know,

902
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna.

903
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 5: Try to get it going stun me and Shaq versus

904
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 5: Kenny and Chuck, and they thought I was playing.

905
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 4: I had to produce some receipts, so I had to

906
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 4: show I had to tweet out some pictures of me

907
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 4: holding the hardware, the championship trophy and the MVP trophy

908
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 4: and me. Remember I told you about how I get

909
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 4: my getting my team to bond, and I bought Filipino

910
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: head bands for the whole team. So you see me

911
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,320
Speaker 4: with the Filipino headband on and the picture I tweeted

912
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 4: out there. So uh, it's real over here in the field.

913
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's how that's how that came about.

914
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 5: Einstein. I'm gonna say this, that.

915
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 4: Video clip blew up and not just blew up in

916
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 4: the country, bullet blew up in the Philippines and most

917
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 4: of the most of the most of it.

918
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 5: And they're just laughing.

919
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 4: They appreciate, you know, being acknowledged because you know, basketball

920
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 4: is very huge in the Philippines over there, and I've

921
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 4: since got gotten a few offers so that they'll fly

922
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 4: me out first class and come watch some the Filipino

923
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 4: League Basketball League games.

924
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 5: So I'm I'm gonnaell, I'm gonna take them up on

925
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 5: that offer right right there. Stein.

926
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Speaker 4: See, that's what I'm telling you, Stein, you can join

927
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 4: my philip Filipino League starin and you don't know what

928
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 4: is in store for you.

929
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 5: We can both you know, we may.

930
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 4: Still both have a career covering the covering the PBA

931
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,720
Speaker 4: all over there, or me even going playing as an import.

932
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: The opportunity or maybe we need to all go there

933
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: and do the show from the Philippines.

934
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 5: Oh, they would love that. They would love that.

935
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 4: Love absolutely loved that, and they it was so much,

936
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,640
Speaker 4: so much outpoint of love from the Filipino community. They'm

937
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: just appreciate me even acknowledging the leagues. There's Philipino leagues

938
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 4: all across this country and they're competitive, man and so.

939
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 4: And the reason why I was laughing at Oh Star

940
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 4: to say this real quick, A bunch of my Filipino

941
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 4: brothers and sisters hit me back up with the response

942
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 4: that they said, I should have said so. When Chuck

943
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 4: asked how many Filipinos were drafted the NBA, A bunch

944
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 4: of people, brothers, sisters in my Filipino community hit me

945
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 4: up to say, you should have as many championship says

946
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,759
Speaker 4: as you got, Chuck. That's that's the response. They would

947
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 4: have been saying. Listen, I'm not like Chuck. I'm not

948
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 4: quick with it like that, you know what I mean.

949
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 4: Like I wasn't expected Chuck to go there, so I wasn't.

950
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 4: I wasn't quite ready, and I knew what Chuck meant.

951
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 4: Chuck meant like pure blood Filipinos, you know from the Philippines,

952
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 4: Jalen Green and Jordan Clarkson, you know Filipino descent.

953
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 5: Andre Andre blatch.

954
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: Too, he played for the He played for the Philippines.

955
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 4: Okay, but no, it was it was a cool segment.

956
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 4: Gave them some love. So that's how that's how all

957
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 4: of that came about.

958
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's two weeks in a row that this podcast

959
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: was either name checked or tangentially mentioned on Inside the NBA.

960
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: So that is a winning streak. We will gladly, gladly accept.

961
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: You're you're subscriber. You said, he's a he's somebody who

962
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 4: commented on.

963
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 1: Your Yeah, yeah, one of one of one of the

964
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: loyal readers of my sub stack. And like I said instantly,

965
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: in fact, I was actually about five minutes behind the

966
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: show real time, and he messaged me before how I

967
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: had even seen this exchange about your rec league career.

968
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: So then I hit play and fast forward and there

969
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: you were on screen to give an update, a preview

970
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: of Warriors at Kings, but it instead became an inside

971
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: the a spin off of this league uncut, which was

972
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: entertaining to watch.

973
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 4: Well, listen, you know, you're always taught as a journalist.

974
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: You know, as a reporter, you're not to be a

975
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 4: part of the story. And so I didn't go in

976
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,959
Speaker 4: going in to talk about my heroics on the basketball court.

977
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Speaker 4: But there was an opportunity that I saw and I

978
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 4: was asked a question, and that's how it got.

979
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Speaker 5: I blame Ernie.

980
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: I blame Ernie is a Ernie is a great instigator,

981
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 4: but then he knows how like quickly cut it off too.

982
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 4: You know, you see you can hear that clip like,

983
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: you know, all right, let's let's let's up cut this off.

984
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 4: We don't want to get castled. So uh, he's good

985
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 4: with starting it and then peeling it back like as

986
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 4: if he didn't do anything, as if he didn't contribute.

987
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: But you know that that was all that was.

988
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 5: So you know, it's always, you know, you always have

989
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 5: fun with those guys. You never know what to expect.

990
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm no Wheernie Johnson, but I'm gonna try

991
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: to put a bow on this one.

992
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 5: Now.

993
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: That is going to do it for this edition of

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00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: This League Uncut. As I mentioned, there were about ten

995
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: other things on our list that I was hoping we

996
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: could get to, and even just restricting us to what

997
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: we did talk about, this is gonna end up being

998
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 1: one of our longer podcasts. I think we've gone about

999
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,440
Speaker 1: an hour, maybe even over. So Chris will be heading east.

1000
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: I'm heading west in the first round. But we will

1001
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: find a way to get together again soon and we

1002
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 1: will be back next week with two new editions of

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00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 1: This League Uncut. As always, we kindly ask you to

1004
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: follow us, rate the show, review the show. We would

1005
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 1: love to get a five star review from you if possible,

1006
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: and you know, let us know if you are your producer, Ryan,

1007
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: we are expanding his role week to week. Are you

1008
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: enjoying that new wrinkle of the show, Let us know.

1009
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: And like I said, Chris and I will be back

1010
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: together again very very soon with the playoffs fully underway.

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00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: By that point, that's gonna do it. Thanks everyone for listening.

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00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 5: That's cold game.

1013
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 4: We announced that we're expanding Ryan's role, but now we're

1014
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 4: asking the audience to tell us if they lack it.

1015
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 5: Or that.

1016
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 4: I think we're supposed to do that before we announced

1017
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Speaker 4: the expatable.

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Speaker 3: And that'll do it for us. See you next time.

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Speaker 3: This league uncut it is and iHeartRadio production. Chris Haines

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Speaker 3: did Mark Stein