1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to ste Gotson Company Live podcast. Be 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday from three to 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: five pm Eastern noon to two pm. 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 5 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Find your local station for Stugotson Company Live at Fox 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day 7 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,240 Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 9 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Taylor. Please put this on the poll. 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson would be a better wide receiver or I 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: can't remember if I voted for Bill or not? Which 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: one will Bill Pollion be most remembered for? 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 2: That's right? 14 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 4: He was uh Lamar Jackson as a wide receiver back 15 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 4: today right this morning. 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 5: I also saw that he had a first round grade 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 5: on Tom Brady, the only person who has that claim 18 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 5: that they had that grade on him. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, Bill Pollion, listen, Izzy, we'll get your thoughts 20 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: on this in just a second. 21 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: It has taken over the sports Day Bill Belichick. But 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:06,559 Speaker 2: I've been. 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: Trying to get guests on, and we have Mike Francessa 24 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: on coming up at four o'clock. If you asked me, 25 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: what's the one guest you want on in America today 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: to discuss Bill Belichick being snubbed by Pro Football's Hall 27 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: of Fame. I would tell you it would be Mike 28 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,559 Speaker 1: Francessa one, Trey Wingo two. We got both of them, yes, yes, 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: but I'm the one booking the guest here. At all 30 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm getting from Taylor on this busy, busy day, mikey 31 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: A was getting it as well. Is top five athletes 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: if they were named after getting snubbed from the Pro 33 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 2: That's all I'm gotta rom um. 35 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 6: I mean, I take Tom Brady. 36 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: We'll get to Taylor's top five in a second. Your 37 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 2: thoughts here is? 38 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's funny that it's sort of taken 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 4: over the day in sports, because when I saw it 40 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 4: this morning, I was like, Ah, that's either going to 41 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 4: be really funny or something that we all just kind 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 4: of laugh off and say. 43 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 6: That was some bitter folk. But now I'm starting. 44 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 4: To think this was a brilliant move from his girlfriend 45 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 4: slash publicist. Jordan's last name I can't remember. 46 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, Hudson. Thank you. Okay, that's why you're 47 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: here at Taylor. 48 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 4: I appreciate that that in the top five list he's 49 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 4: about to deliver. 50 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: Guy. 51 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: They did Bill such a favor with this, Like I know, 52 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 4: in the long term, not a first ballot Hall of Famer. 53 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 6: That's something people are gonna remember. 54 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: But they're gonna remember it because he deserved it so much, right, right, 55 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 4: so it's not really gonna be haha, you're a second 56 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: ballot Hall of Famer. But what they did with this 57 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 4: is they let him. First of all, his speech next 58 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 4: year has so much, so much more so many more 59 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 4: hilarious elements to it. Right by waiting a year, he 60 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: probably just to stand up there and pause and be like, well, 61 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: I can stay here till next year if you want 62 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 4: me to. 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 6: That would be hilarious. He gave him a way better speech. 64 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 4: They gave him an entire year to get off of 65 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 4: this North Carolina stink that he's got on. And because 66 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: right now it would just be a little sad if 67 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick, North Carolina coach Bill Belichick with a how 68 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 4: many win team Taylor would just beyond that podium, four 69 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 4: win team beyond that podium, kind of clinging to Okay, 70 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 4: this is the only sort of success or fame I 71 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 4: have at the moment that I like. 72 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 6: Therefore, you know, thank you for letting me in. 73 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 4: If he waits this next year, he's all of a sudden, 74 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 4: this sympathetic figure, and again everybody knows he's what number 75 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 4: two behind Don Shula in all time wins. Like, of 76 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 4: course he should be a first ballot Hall of Famer. 77 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 4: I think this changes the narrative for watching him go 78 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 4: in the Hall of Fame. 79 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 6: And I think it's a brilliant pr move. 80 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 1: You have North Carolina being better this season than they 81 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: were last season. 82 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 2: You see improvement there. Huh? 83 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 5: Really is he on the Carolina insider? 84 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 2: I don't care. 85 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: If they are a loser team again, But that's what 86 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 4: this does. This allows him to get off of that subject. Oh, 87 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 4: I'm not the former Patriots coach who won six Super 88 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: Bowls and I'm now stuck with this Carolina team. I'm 89 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 4: the guy that those bitter old men didn't vote in 90 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 4: on the first ballot even though I should have. 91 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 6: And look at me. Now, I can joke about that, 92 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 6: I can talk about that. 93 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: I can still give my acceptance speech into the Hall 94 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 4: of Fame forever because there's not a separate wing for 95 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 4: first ballot Hall of Famers and I don't even have 96 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: to discuss North Carolina. 97 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: I like the idea of giving Belichick a year to 98 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: think about what he wants to say when he eventually 99 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: gets into Pro Football's Hall of Fame. 100 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 2: Because I like the idea of roasting Bill. 101 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: Pollion with its entire fifteen minutes, just an entire roast 102 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: of Bill Pollion for fifteen minutes upon getting into the 103 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. 104 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 2: But I do think this makes him a more sympathetic figure. 105 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 2: I do. I didn't think about that, and it most 106 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: certainly does. 107 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 5: Go ahead, Tylor, I'll give you a little preview what 108 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 5: Bill Belichick's speech is going to be? Thanks? 109 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 2: Put it on the poll? Is Bill the check speech 110 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 2: going to be thanks? Yes? 111 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 7: Or no? 112 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 4: It's a good question, Mikey asked, while spend more time 113 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 4: on the speech or getting ready for Syracuse football? 114 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: More time? Definitely the speech. 115 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 6: I don't know about that. 116 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean right now, yes, right, he is going to 117 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: go scorched earth when he finally gets in. It's a 118 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: great point by you. It gives him a full year 119 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: to take people out. And how about Tom Brady rushing 120 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: to his defense saying he's the greatest coach ever. If 121 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: I could only play for one coach, it would be 122 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. Hey, how about take some accountability for the 123 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: flake gate, because that's the reason apparently he's not getting in. 124 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 2: You wanted your balls to be smaller? What or. 125 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 6: Sometimes it helps? 126 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 4: Or you got Tom Brady to talk glowingly about you 127 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: out of the blue. 128 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 6: What would have had to happen to Bill Belichick outside 129 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 6: of some terminal illness. We don't want to go. 130 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 4: There where Tom Brady would come out and say glowing 131 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 4: things again about his former head coach. 132 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 6: It has to be this, yeah, unless maybe he got 133 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 6: fired from North Carolina. 134 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 4: Even then, Taylor, I don't think Tom Brady would come 135 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 4: out and say he's the greatest ever. They never should 136 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 4: have fired Immu said, ah, he took a stab. Didn't 137 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 4: really work out. 138 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 5: If Belichick got fired, Brady would come out and say 139 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 5: justifiable exactly exactly. 140 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 4: This is basically the only thing that could have happened 141 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 4: to Bill Belichick around this time where Tom Brady is 142 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 4: not necessarily forced to but pretty much has to say 143 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 4: these glowing things about Bill belichicks. 144 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 6: So if he accepts the. 145 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: Interview, mikey A, this is interesting because and I'm wondering 146 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: how you feel about it, because I think he's right. 147 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: We are conditioned you and I to not like Bill Belichick. 148 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: Belichick took the Jets head coaching job and after day 149 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: realized what a mess it was, and he left and 150 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: he drove up ninety five and he took the Patriots 151 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: head coaching job, and then he got Tom Brady and 152 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: he won six Super Bowls. But I do feel badly 153 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: for Bill Belichick, and I can't believe I'm saying that. 154 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: How about you, as a jet fit, don't. I don't 155 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 2: feel bad for him at all. 156 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 8: I'm happy. I hope he sits there with a miserable 157 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 8: look on his face and yeah, good for you. 158 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: Bill. 159 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: The only other time I even came close to feeling 160 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 4: bad for Bill is when he was violated by that 161 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: ring camera footage, right, because I mean, he just thought 162 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: he was outside loading up his car shirtless after one. 163 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: He can assume is a nice night with his girlfriend, 164 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 4: and here he is out for expos for everybody to see. 165 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 6: That felt a little intrusive. This, I definitely feel sorry 166 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 6: for him. 167 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 4: I think most people feel sorry for him, and I 168 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 4: don't think that they realize how genius of a planet 169 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 4: is because again, once he's in, Yeah. 170 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: But it's not his plan. You know what? I'm saying right, 171 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: his plan is to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. 172 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 4: But if you think about this, like, would you rather 173 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 4: your induction be more memorable, more of a positive experience, 174 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 4: and then be a Hall of Famer forever? Because nobody 175 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 4: says second ballot Hall of Famer Bill Belichick. They'll say 176 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame coach, You're a Belichick, and so I 177 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 4: think by I think if you were to just put 178 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 4: it out there on the table, I think it would 179 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 4: be a lot more positive experience. Now he can joke 180 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: about taking another year penalty for Spygate instead of. 181 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 6: Avoiding Spygate at all costs. 182 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: It would be the highest rated Hall of Fame ceremony 183 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: ever of all time. 184 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: You're right, because people are gonna be now be waiting 185 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: one full year to. 186 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Hear what Bill Belichick has to say upon getting inducted 187 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: at the bro Football's Hall of Fame. 188 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 5: Can I play Devil's advocate for here a second? 189 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 2: I mean you're going to anyway, all N't you what 190 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean? 191 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 5: And this is something I'm going to pitch to Mike 192 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 5: Francesa too. Oh Jesus, Belichick's record without Brady is eighty 193 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 5: three and one oh four. What if the Hall of 194 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 5: Fame voters got together and was like, hey, we kind 195 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 5: of needed to see you do it without Brady to 196 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 5: be this surefire first bout Hall of Famer and instead 197 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 5: your win percentage is worse than Todd Bowles. 198 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 199 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, so winds aren't a quarterback stat They're not a. 200 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: Coach's stattat are they put it on the poultailer. If 201 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: Tom Brady never wins that Super Bowl in Tampa, is 202 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick in the Hall of Fame today? 203 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 2: I mean, there were so many weird reasons as to 204 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 2: why belichicked it. Bruce Arian's gonna be a first ballot 205 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer. 206 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 4: Nobody would have complained if they would have stopped that 207 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 4: first North Carolina game after that first drive, just to 208 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 4: have the Hall of Fame ceremony right. 209 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: Then and there. 210 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 4: Yes, and so not only did he win those look 211 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 4: at that drive, get this man in the Hall of Fame, 212 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 4: and then continue the season in week two. 213 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 2: You're right, and nobody would have complained. 214 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Right the apex of his career, Michael Jordan, he got 215 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan to attending North Carolina football game. 216 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: I mean, that would have. 217 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 4: Been the perfect time right, just Jordan, Michael Jordan comes 218 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 4: down from the stands. It's like, you know what, I 219 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 4: want to give this speech to induct my man Bill 220 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 4: Belichick into the Hall of Fame, and again nobody would 221 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 4: have any complaints. 222 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 6: Instead, now he. 223 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 4: Has to wait a year, but it's still going to 224 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 4: be amazing drama. 225 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: Buddy Booger McFarland said that Mike Rabel there's a chance 226 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: that he gets in before Bill Belichick. 227 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: Because if they win the Super Bowl, he wants the 228 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 5: immediate into Canton. So in Booger McFarland's mind, there is 229 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 5: a potential for Rabel to get in before. 230 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 4: If the Patriots win this Super Bowl, it wouldn't even 231 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 4: be the most shocking super Bowl that they've won the 232 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 4: last seven, because that first one against the Greatest show 233 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 4: on Turf was the shocker and that should have put 234 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 4: Bill Belichick immediately into the Hall of Fame. 235 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: The Falcons won, that was a shocker as well. Well, 236 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 2: that's just a. 237 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 6: But everybody thought they were going to win that one. 238 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: Going in. 239 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 5: The Seahawks one was kind of a shocker to that last. 240 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 6: Play at the end of the rise, but not the 241 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 6: final result. 242 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 2: They were all shockers now. 243 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 4: That I'm thinking about it of Panthers really had their number. 244 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy shocked the world six separate times 245 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: and he's not a first ballot Hall of Famer. 246 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 2: It really is, Taylor. 247 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: I am glad that you have a question lined up 248 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: for Mike Fritz Sessa, who I book today. But it 249 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: freed up your time as I was booking the guest 250 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: today again, Mike Francesa four o'clock. 251 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: Trey Wingo going to. 252 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: Join us at around four twenty and we'll break it 253 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: up just a little bit with some bills. Talk with 254 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: Nate Geary Nate Geary sports on Twitter because he says, 255 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: this is like the Titanic sinking. What's going on in Buffalo, 256 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: and so whenever a guy listen, that's how I got 257 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: hooked in. When you tell me this is like the 258 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: Titanic sinking, right the beginning of the Titanic going down. 259 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: You have sucked me in and I will talk to 260 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: you for ten minutes. But Taylor has a top five list, 261 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: because I've been booking guests all day. So Taylor, announce 262 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: your top five, tell us what it is, and then 263 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: give us said top five. 264 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you for doing this. 265 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 5: So this top five list is top five athletes if 266 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 5: they were named after getting snubbed from the Hall of Fame. 267 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: So if they were named after, we just had to 268 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: paint this. So you're in the hospital, right, you have 269 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: a baby. 270 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 4: Yes, somehow this child has already been snubbed from the 271 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. 272 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: No, no, no. So the way you have to do 273 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: it is you happen to have two parents. It's a 274 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: strange obsession to have, but they are obsessed with Hall 275 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: of Fame snubs, okay, and they're so obsessed that they 276 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: want to name their kids after being snubbed by the 277 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. I think that's where Taylor is headed. 278 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: I know that because I've done liss like this before. 279 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 4: And so they're telling the nurse, Hey, listen, I know 280 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: the last name doesn't match our last name. 281 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 6: This is what we want to name Mark showd. 282 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 1: Yes now, now, mikey A, this is something I would 283 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: normally do. And so I'm not terribly confident that Taylor 284 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: has made the full transition. 285 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 2: To me, how do you feel, are you? 286 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: Where's your confidence level right now with Taylor delivering this list? 287 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 3: It's high right now. 288 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 8: Taylor seems really confident about it, and since you kind 289 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 8: of did his job, I'm assuming he did your job 290 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 8: very well. 291 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: All right, Taylor, do you have eddy oliyes? What do 292 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: you have here? 293 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:13,239 Speaker 5: So we have two ol first I Nope solo. 294 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: Nope solo so ego nope, nol too. I mean it was. 295 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 6: Hope Solo snubbed from a Hall of Fame. 296 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: No, no, but her parents are obsessed with snubs, and 297 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: so they instead of naming them Hope if they named 298 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: their nope. 299 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 8: Right, Okay, who's Hope Solo we're talking about Nope Solo? 300 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 2: Thank you, Mikey. I appreciate it. 301 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 5: O l I number two please hedeo no, no, yes, 302 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 5: thank you? 303 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 2: They no. 304 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 6: Is okay, you know what, not going to ask any 305 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 6: of questions, just leave it alone. 306 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: It's his list. 307 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 5: Number five Byron left out. 308 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so mister and missus left witch. 309 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: Okay, they are obsessed with Hall of Fame snubs and 310 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: they have decided. 311 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 2: To name their child Byron left out. 312 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 8: Okay, I'm not confident you have four better than Byron left. 313 00:13:59,080 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. 314 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 6: Iron left out definitely should have been an l I 315 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 6: pretty good. I like no better. 316 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 5: It's his list go ahead number four James not Worthy. 317 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: That's good. It feels. 318 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 8: It feels more Hall of Famous. 319 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. 320 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 6: It keeps you within the same family. 321 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: It does feel more Hall of Fame not worthy rather 322 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: than just no, oh my god. 323 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: All right, go ahead to Hiller. 324 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 5: Number three Denied Gordon. 325 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 2: I love that D Gordon. Yes. 326 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: So the Gordons, just so we're clear here, Okay, they're 327 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: obsessed with Hall of Fame snubs and so dkme out 328 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, what do we call them? Denied Gordon? 329 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 2: Okay, those pesky Gordon's is he? 330 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get you back in with number two here, 331 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 5: Purvis few votes short? 332 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 6: You did? 333 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: He's laughing. Wait you got it? Wait you lost me? 334 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 8: You got is he? 335 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 6: I thought you what's his name? 336 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 2: Purpose? 337 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 5: What purpose short? 338 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 2: Yes? 339 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 5: Really purpose few votes short? 340 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 6: Yes he I thound like a purpose Ellis. 341 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, no, I thought purpose Ellison as well, and 342 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: I was like, how does this work? 343 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 2: And that? But purpose short? You could have gone with 344 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: any short you. 345 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: Know, anyone okay, yeah, I don't know, but more famous 346 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 4: short but okay? 347 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? Or Mark few wow? Wow? Yes you want to 348 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: uh you want to redo the list? 349 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 5: No, but I do like Mark few vote short. All right, 350 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 5: the number one athlete if they were named after getting 351 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 5: snubbed from the Hall of Fame. Snubble Watson, that is. 352 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 2: That is good. He did have four better, but he 353 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: had one. 354 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 6: Does he get in with two masters? 355 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: Never failure? Snubb Snubble Watson, Yes too, Breen Jackets. 356 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 5: I was between Snubba Watson and there's a player on 357 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 5: the Wizard, bub Carrington. He was gonna be snub Carrington. 358 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 4: You would have got me on that way. It was 359 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 4: a baseball understand the game. Though there was a baseball 360 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 4: player Franklin Stubbs. You could have named them Franklin Snubs. Yes, 361 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: but it's your list. 362 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. 363 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Godson Company 364 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: Live Wheakda said three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific on 365 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 366 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: Mikey A, Why were you shaking your head? There? I 367 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 2: saw you're shaking your head. What's happening? 368 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 8: Well, we're about to have on a Bill's reporter who's 369 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 8: about to call the Bills the Titanic? Did he not 370 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 8: just hear Dan's update about the New York Jets Like 371 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 8: I take offense to anyone who is gonna call. 372 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:49,359 Speaker 2: When the Jets are fix your microphone? 373 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: But what Mikey is trying to say is what Jet 374 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: fans would not give for the last nine years. 375 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: Of Buffalo bill football. And he is so right about it. 376 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: Are you sure that that's just like Mikey having applause 377 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 4: behind it where somebody's giving him a really slow clap. 378 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 2: It was a good take, it was. I had to 379 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: clean it up for him, but it was it was 380 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: a good take. We would yes, we are. 381 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: The Titanic and how dare you would pay our territory. 382 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: We are the worst team in the NFL. We have 383 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: been sinking for forty years. Let's bring on Nate Geary 384 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: here Nate Geary Sports on Twitter. I can't believe I 385 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: forgot to kick it the dan for the update. I mean, 386 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: let me explain what happened here. Okay, well listen, I 387 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: mean you're not listen. You're part of the reason I forgot. 388 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: Okay. 389 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 4: I would tell you that. 390 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: You wrote it down. 391 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,359 Speaker 1: I understand that you wrote it down, but you forgot 392 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: to do tire rack. I'd the tire Iraq for you. 393 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't confident the guys at Sherman Oaks had tire 394 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 1: rack ready. 395 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 2: We're an open book on this show. I'm gonna share everything. 396 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 6: With you, sure, and I'll return to you. Nobody told 397 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 6: me to do the dire Iraq read. 398 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm not doing it by muscle memory. Just it's 399 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: only been seven days. 400 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: Mike francessa four o'clock Nate Geary Sports on Twitter is 401 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: where you can check him out Bills pregame halftime at 402 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 1: postgame show host WGR five point fifty, A legendary station 403 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: up there in Buffalo, Nate, how you doing today? 404 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 7: I'm very good, and I'm realizing some historical context here, guys. 405 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 7: Perhaps if there were gifts of the Edmond Fitzgerald, that 406 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 7: would have made more sense for me in hindsight. But 407 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 7: Titanics all we got, guys. Titanic's all we got. 408 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: Yes, But you realize why mikey A and I are 409 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: upset because what we would not give to have the 410 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: last nine years of Buffalo football down in New York 411 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: right like down in New York City, is what I'm saying. 412 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, of course, listen, it's been a great nine year 413 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 7: run for the Bills. I've been with the team in 414 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 7: you know, some role at the atter station at WGR 415 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 7: for the better part of like twelve years now. Before that, 416 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 7: my childhood was largely filled with exactly what you guys 417 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 7: are talking about, coaches whose names you don't remember, games 418 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 7: in which I left crying with my dad. So yeah, listen, 419 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 7: there's there's a lot of similarities between and Jets football, 420 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 7: but to your point, the last decade they veered in 421 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 7: different directions. 422 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 5: We'll say, yes, Nate, after the Titanic tweet, your next 423 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 5: tweet was the first head coaching hiring that will unite 424 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 5: both sides of the aisle. Everyone hates it. Everyone, the 425 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 5: most optimistic person you know hates it. It can't be 426 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 5: that bad. 427 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 7: Dennett, our beat reporter for the athletic Jobscalia, have put 428 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 7: out a tweet a pole of you know, do you 429 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 7: like the move? 430 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 2: Yes? No, you know? 431 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 7: And then there was a third option. I think eighty 432 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 7: four percent was no. So here here's what I'll say, 433 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 7: a lot of talk from the you know, I guess 434 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 7: if you want to talk about sinking shifts, we can 435 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 7: start first with the or with the press conference last 436 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 7: week with Terry Fagoula and Brandon Bean right, like the 437 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 7: debt really go as as I'm sure they expected it 438 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 7: to go. But I think that the vision from that 439 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 7: you know, press conference, if you're a Bills fan, is Okay, 440 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 7: they're turning a new lease. This is an opportunity to 441 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 7: bring new heads, new minds, new scheme into I think 442 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 7: a team that largely had hit its heat on the ceiling, right, 443 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 7: And if Sean McDermott is the guy that hit the 444 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 7: quote proverbial playoff wall, I'm gonna say that the guy 445 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 7: that was running the offense for the better part of 446 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 7: three years, who, by the way his unit offensively had 447 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 7: the ball in their hands with chances to win games 448 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 7: in each of the last three playoff losses, I'm not 449 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 7: sure that's exactly the shift people had in mind. I 450 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 7: think we all look at this in two different ways. 451 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 2: Guys. 452 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 7: We look at the process, right, which is pointing from 453 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 7: Sean McDermott, right, that was the big thing. Everybody here 454 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 7: in Buffalo is all about the process. Well, the process 455 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 7: was the shortest coaching search of any of the teams 456 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 7: currently that we're looking for head coaches. Right. The Raiders 457 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 7: have been doing this for four weeks five weeks now. 458 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 7: The Bills didn't even get to a second round of 459 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 7: interviews with any of these guys, So you know, it 460 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 7: seems rushed, It doesn't seem there was a huge plan. 461 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 7: And what it feels like all along is they were 462 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 7: just going to promote the guy that's been working alongside 463 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 7: Sean McDermott for the better part of three seasons. And 464 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 7: then the other piece to this is I just think 465 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 7: that there were a lot of people looking forward to 466 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 7: having somebody in house at the offensive coordinator position that 467 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 7: was also going to be a head coach, an offensive mine, right, 468 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 7: and I think someone that was going to bring new ideas. 469 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 7: Joe Brady kind of I mean the interview process where 470 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 7: you know, the owner throws Ian Coleman under the bus, 471 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 7: it kind of felt like everyone was like, well, he 472 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 7: threw on under the bus. He threw John McDermot under 473 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 7: the bus. And then it kind of came out the 474 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 7: AP reported, well, it was the offensive coaching staff that 475 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 7: really pushed for key On Coleman. So first of all, 476 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 7: the general manager will really more so the owner throws 477 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 7: the offensive coaching staff under the bus about a player 478 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 7: that is currently on the team. Oh yeah, we're gonna 479 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 7: go ahead and we're gonna make him the head coach. 480 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 7: So I just think looking at it from big picture, 481 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 7: and if you're a Bills fan, you feel like the 482 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 7: process was rushed. There was real note, there wasn't really 483 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 7: a plan. And on top of that, guys, you end 484 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 7: up with a guy that I think was in the 485 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,919 Speaker 7: crosshairs of a lot of Bill's frustration this year with 486 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 7: an offense that of course featured the league leading rusher, 487 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 7: but also saw an offense that I mean, let's face 488 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 7: the guys, I would have loved to have the Jets 489 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 7: receiver room this year. 490 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 2: What was the question? 491 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 4: So fired, go ahead, This is probably unfair of me, 492 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 4: but I look at Joe Brady just his face, and 493 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 4: I say, that guy stealing as a coordinator, Like he 494 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 4: is not going to be a head coach, So, uh, 495 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 4: what is the case for him? 496 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 6: Who is he? 497 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 4: What are his strengths necessarily and are there some sort 498 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 4: of hidden skills that we are unaware of because he's 499 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: only been a coordinator for you, So I don't know. 500 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 7: I mean, we've all been school of some capacity. 501 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: Guys. 502 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 7: It's sort of like we had the really cool teacher 503 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 7: who gave us the answers to the test and then 504 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 7: was like not not wink wink. He knows what Terry 505 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 7: and Brandon wanted to hear, right, I mean, he knew 506 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 7: what this organization really paired about, what they prioritize from 507 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 7: a personnel level. And I don't want to go as 508 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 7: far as saying that this appears to go with the 509 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,479 Speaker 7: guy that's the yes man. I think a lot of 510 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 7: what's been made of the relationship between Sean and Brandon 511 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 7: and the deterioration of it, was stemming from Shawn's belief 512 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 7: the roster wasn't good enough and Terry and Brandon's belief 513 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 7: that it was. I'm wondering if it was as easy 514 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 7: as you know Joe Brady saying, yeah, it's good enough, 515 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 7: and you guys have done a great job, and I 516 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 7: think I can work with this and we can win 517 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 7: a Super Bowl with this roster. And so I think 518 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 7: a little of it, guys, is just he knew the 519 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 7: answers to the questions and he was I mean, I'm 520 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 7: gonna say this, no beat reporter myself included, all of 521 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 7: us thought that there was really no shot Joe Brady 522 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 7: was gonna be the head coach. So this was a 523 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 7: surprise to a lot of us, and I think even 524 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 7: more so a surprise for Bill's fans as well. Sounds 525 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 7: like a surprise for you guys too. 526 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a surprise for everyone. NATEE. 527 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: How do you feel about how much involvement they allowed 528 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: Josh to have and who would be the next head out? 529 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it was. I think I tweeted it 530 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 7: like last week. That is the biggest non story in sports, 531 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 7: you know, surprised that a franchise whose greatest revenue generator 532 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 7: is going to have a say. And I think even 533 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 7: saying a say is probably dramatic because I think for me, 534 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 7: he was involved in the process much like the Ravens 535 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 7: were involving Lamar Jackson. You allow your and you want 536 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 7: to have active feedback for these head coaching candidates. You know, 537 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 7: what is Josh see in a certain play that might 538 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 7: differ from the way that Udinsky or another offensive coach 539 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 7: might look at those things. So I think having him 540 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 7: a part of the process is what I would have wanted. 541 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 7: And I'll tell you this because this is how we 542 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 7: do it in the sports industry. Guys in sports talk 543 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 7: is had the bills not included him, everyone would say, 544 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 7: how could you possibly not include Josh Allen he's the 545 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 7: most important. But so you know, it's just rage and 546 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 7: for whatever we've got to talk about for the day. Guys, 547 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 7: it's February. It's almost February after the super Bowl. What 548 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 7: the hell are we going to talk about? So yeah, 549 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 7: I think it was largely overblown. 550 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: Listen, you get the game, man, you really do. I 551 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 2: love you, Nate. I meany have. 552 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: Buffalo and NBA team, Please Nate something to talk about 553 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 4: after February. 554 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: Go ahead, Taylor, Nate. 555 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 5: You mentioned the divide between McDermott and Bean and Pagool 556 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 5: when it comes to the roster outside of the quarterback position. 557 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 5: How good is the Bill's roster actually to justify keeping 558 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,160 Speaker 5: being around and not only keeping him but promoting. 559 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 7: Him, Well, I think you have to silo this conversation. 560 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 7: I don't want to look at it just from what 561 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 7: does the roster look like right now? And maybe that's 562 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,119 Speaker 7: why Brandon being still around, Brandon being drafted, Josh Allen, 563 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 7: let's just follow his face to stay, guys, you get 564 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 7: and he did not hire Sean McDermott either, So I 565 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 7: think those two things really played into Brandon's you know, 566 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 7: quote unquote hour struggle or whatever people want to call it, 567 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 7: but he drafted one of the best quarterbacks in football, 568 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 7: and he hasn't had an opportunity to, you know, hire 569 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,360 Speaker 7: a head coach. And I do think those things mattered 570 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 7: in Terry Fogul's decision making. But when I look at 571 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 7: this roster, guys, it's I think, unequivocally the weakest roster 572 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 7: this team has had since Josh me Allen's rookie season. 573 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 7: And you know, you look at the wide receiver room, 574 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 7: that's the room that really gets a lot of attention. 575 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 7: You know, Palio Shaki has averaged up, the charge target 576 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 7: has reduced by thirty five percent or more over the 577 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 7: last three seasons he's been in Joe Brady's offense. It 578 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 7: feels like they don't really know how to use their 579 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 7: best receiver. Daltonton paid the guy that they really you know, 580 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 7: they drafted in the first round instead of moving up 581 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 7: to get JSN. You know, Okay, I guess that's fine. 582 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 7: So they going up with a tight end who his 583 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 7: you know, data, the numbers speak to him being a 584 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 7: very good player. He can't stay healthy. And then the 585 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 7: defensive side of the ball, they just keep sending pick 586 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 7: and pick and pick with the defensive line, and they're 587 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 7: not really seeing any uh, you know, returns on those investments. 588 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 7: So I look at this team as a whole, and 589 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 7: the premier positions defensive end, horner, wide receiver, the Bills 590 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 7: really don't have players like Christian Benford. A lot will 591 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 7: see what Max Harrison ends up being, but those premier physicians. 592 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 7: The Bills just don't have players that are at the 593 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 7: top fifteen or top twenty at their position, and they certainly, 594 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 7: like even really over this era, measures on against the Chiefs. 595 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 7: The Chiefs have like five, like five future Hall of Famers, 596 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 7: Bills have one. And I think that when you get 597 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 7: in those big moments, those big games, when you've got 598 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 7: a Chris Jones and Travis Kelce if Patrick Mahomes, that 599 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 7: stuff really matters, and those could be the differences between 600 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 7: you know, a dropped pass on fourth and eleven and 601 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 7: you know, a game winning field goal to beat the 602 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 7: finally beat the Chiefs. So the roster's not great, guys, 603 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 7: but I still think that they're a twelve thirteen win 604 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 7: team almost regardless of who the head coach is. 605 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 1: So Nate, if the Bill's got Josh Allen, some wide receivers, like, 606 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's say Stefan Diggs and Mac Collins, 607 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: do you think they would then be able to make 608 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: it to a Super Bowl? 609 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 7: Man having them both on the roster at the same 610 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 7: time would have would have some I think some you 611 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 7: know returns. But that's the thing, guys about Joe Brady. 612 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 7: He enters the picture after the Bills fired Joe Dorsey, Right, 613 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 7: they fired Dorsey and they bring in Joe Brady. And 614 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 7: at that point, Stefan Diggs was averaging over seventy six 615 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 7: yards a game. Enter Joe Brady. That average goes from 616 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 7: seventy six a game to thirty four a game. I 617 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 7: don't know that his offenses are complex enough at the 618 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 7: passing level. By the way, Aaron Kromer, who just retired 619 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 7: the Bill's you know, run game coordinator, he was calling 620 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 7: run plays, guys for the best part of their entire 621 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 7: offense wasn't even under Joe Brady's cooliage. So, you know, 622 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 7: I guess we'll just get back into me yelling about 623 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 7: Joe Brady. But at the end of the day, guys 624 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 7: like they need a number one receiver, and on top 625 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 7: of that, they probably need another good boundary receiver. To 626 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 7: round out what I think was just the weakest room 627 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 7: in football. And you know, not making that swing for 628 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 7: Jalen Waddell because you really wanted that pick to be 629 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 7: in twenty seven and not this upcoming year, I think 630 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 7: ends up being a huge whip for them. I think 631 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 7: having Waddle on the final stretch runt of this season 632 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 7: and in the playoffs, I think it changes the way 633 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 7: defenses have to defend the Bills. 634 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 4: So, yeah, you haven't watched that many Dolphins games. He's 635 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 4: just all right, Ny, I just who gets you out 636 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 4: of here on this? If this is indeed the Titanic, 637 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 4: what does it look like next year? 638 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 6: Second place in the AFC? 639 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: You know, tell me it's different, Nate. 640 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 1: I watched Nate, Nate, Nate, listen to me. John Gruden 641 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: turned down the Jets. Okay, I might turn I know, 642 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: but this guy desperately wants to get back into the 643 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: NFL and he said no to the Jets. 644 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: That's Titanic, Yes, yeah, yeah, it's Titanic. 645 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 7: Yeah. We're, like I said, we're more of a Great 646 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 7: Legs disaster. So I'll take that. I think, largely, guys, 647 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 7: I there's one thing I'm looking at, and this changes 648 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 7: every off season because you look at the next year's 649 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 7: schedule and you look at who they play every year, like, 650 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 7: oh my god, this is so daunting. Everyone's good, but 651 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 7: they play the NFC West. Next year they play at 652 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 7: the AFC North. Like they are going from I think 653 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 7: this year the easiest schedule they've had in Josh Allen's 654 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 7: career to probably the most difficult next year. And that's 655 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 7: to be the thing I look at and say, they're 656 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 7: probably going to be traveling. I think they're going to 657 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 7: be playing a game in Europe next year as well. 658 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 7: So if this team has got to play the Rams, 659 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 7: the forty nine Ers, the Seahawks in a regular season, 660 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 7: good luck. 661 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: Nate Geary Sports on Twitter, Nate, we appreciate the time. 662 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next season when you're off to 663 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: a five and oh start. 664 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 7: Can't wait wait. Thanks for having me. 665 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: Be sure to catch live editions of Steve Gotson Company 666 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific. 667 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: Iowa. Sam is the board app back in Sherman. Thank you. 668 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: How do you mispronounce that word? 669 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 6: It's single syllable. 670 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: I speak for a living and I speak too much. 671 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. This is Iowa, Sam. 672 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: This is a good job by you. 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Again, just search 682 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,239 Speaker 4: Stu Gotson Company Live and be sure to also check 683 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 4: out our original podcast Stu Gotson Company and God Bless Football. 684 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: Bomani Jones was on Stu Gottson Company earlier today. He's fantastic, 685 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: best in the business. And here is Balmani talking about 686 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback he trusts most in the Super Bowl. 687 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 9: I trust neither. Yes, I still call Sam Darnold same Donald. 688 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 9: I still believe that he is a better version of 689 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 9: the same player. I still think that you can, you know, 690 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 9: double a gap, det get up in his face and 691 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 9: he can still fall apart. The problem is Drake, So 692 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 9: it's tricky with him because he has been cheeks this postseason. 693 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 9: He has been Cheeks playing in terrible weather against incredible defenses. Right, 694 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 9: so you you you can make the counterpoints if you 695 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 9: want to make them. I just don't know, like the 696 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 9: ideas you're gonna get me into a place where you 697 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 9: say the person that I trust the most is h 698 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 9: it's saying Donald, I can't quite do it. 699 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 2: I'll tell you it is. Though. 700 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 10: This game got to make everybody feel like they pay 701 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 10: too much money for that Muffler, don't it? Like then 702 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 10: everybody have to look at the quarterbacks they have, like, look. 703 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: What's going on here? 704 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 10: And Drake May I mean and it's obviously Drake make 705 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 10: was very good this regular season, but it's been demonstrated 706 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 10: that you could get to the super Bowl and you 707 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 10: ain't eally got to do all have a guy that 708 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 10: do all that. 709 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: I don't know what he meant by double a gap 710 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 4: that thing or he's been cheeks postseason, but it sounded great. 711 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: It's a great point though, because the Dolphins, who gave 712 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: to a fifty five million a year, that's what he's 713 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: talking about, right, Uh, it has gotten them nowhere and 714 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: here are two teams. 715 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,719 Speaker 6: Well that was a Muffler reference. 716 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but I'm talking like Darnold's not a discount guy. 717 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 2: The other guy is. And they find themselves in the 718 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 2: super Bowl, And I do like his answer. I don't 719 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 2: trust either room either, you know. 720 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 4: I mean, if I'm a defensive coordinator going into the 721 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 4: Super Bowl and I here, but I don't say, hey, 722 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 4: just double a gap that thing. 723 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 2: I'll be like, have we thought about that? 724 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: We should double a gap that thing the right time 725 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: with Bomani Joe. Check out his podcast wherever you get 726 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: your podcast. Mike Francessa gonna join us coming up at 727 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: four o'clock, Taylor. You know Francessa well, you are familiar 728 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: with his work. He is going to take a flamethrower 729 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: Canton in the Hall of Fame, is he not? 730 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? I think I'm gonna try to push back a little, 731 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 5: see if there's any wiggle room there. 732 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: Really, you're gonna push back on Mike Francessa. 733 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 5: Huh, just to play devil's advocate a bit right? 734 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: You know that news Day ranked him the number one 735 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: sports radio personality ever of all time, right ahead of 736 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: Christopher mad Dog Russo is Newsday in New York publication. 737 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure I feel like it's a little biased. 738 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 2: I feel like it's Long Island, right. 739 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 6: I don't know the number one sports broadcaster of all. 740 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,000 Speaker 5: Time sport New York Sports Radio, New York. 741 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, New York sports radio host. I believe it was him, 742 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: Christopher mad Dog Russo. Steve Summer should have been third 743 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 1: of out list. He probably wasn't, though, is he? 744 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 5: You could have expanded that list to national, and Mike 745 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 5: Francessa was still finding his spot at number one. 746 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, first ballot Hall of Famer. 747 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 4: I mean I only have one radio station or one 748 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 4: radio area to compare that to, and that's South Florida. 749 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 4: So unless you wanna when you fight for Boog Shambi 750 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 4: as the number one all the time, I think frances 751 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 4: has probably got it. 752 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: I'd fight for me. I mean, what do you think 753 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 2: you're up there, Joe Ross? I mean. 754 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 4: They all bowed down to Hank Goldberg at Kaplan. Well 755 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 4: for overnights there's nobody better. 756 00:34:53,400 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 2: Am I leaving someone out? Hawkman Mark. 757 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: And you can check out an episode of whin Stegatson 758 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: Hawk which is on Stegotson Company. Thank you for taking 759 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: me there, mikey Hey, I appreciate it having heard your 760 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,839 Speaker 1: voice and the thundering of your microphone in almost an hour. 761 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 6: Slow clap for that one. 762 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 3: I'm not doing anything. 763 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: I can't believe. It is so rare in sports where 764 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: we all get outraged at the same time. And last 765 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 2: night it happened because Bill Palacheck is not a first ballad. 766 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: Hall of Paper like it was unanimous. Everyone agreed with 767 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 2: each other. 768 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 5: It is weird to see the Internet that united on something. 769 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: Yes, Mike Francessa, the greatest to ever do this, is 770 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: going to take a flamethrower to the Hall of Fame 771 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: next