1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha. I don't work to 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: Stephma ever told you production of I Heeart Radio. It's Thursday, 3 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: so that means is time for another happy hour? Happy hour? Yes, yes, 4 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: welcome everyone, no matter what day of the week it is. Yes, yes, 5 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: as I always drink responsibly if you choose to do so. 6 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: This is really just a space where we want you 7 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: to hang out with us and try to find a 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: moment of relaxation. Yes, this is a special episode. Yes 9 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: it is. Yeah, because we're introducing a new sub segment 10 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: of these happy hours that I'm calling Spoiled Thursdays. Well, 11 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: and I would also like to put this in here. 12 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: This is a sub segment of a sub segment. Like 13 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: we have the Happy Hour, and then there's Any's Corner 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: under the Happy Hour, and then there's Spoiled Thursdays. In 15 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: that one, there's another part would be called the unhappy Hour. Yeah. 16 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: So I got a lot of sub segments going on here, 17 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,559 Speaker 1: and I'd like to keep you all on your toes. 18 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: But yes, and Spoiled Thursdays, we're going to talk about 19 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: more recent pieces of entertainment. So if you don't want 20 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: to be spoiled on that piece of entertainment. Wait until 21 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: you catch up and then come back to us if 22 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: you care about being spoiled, because some people like Samantha, 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: I like it. Don't really mind. Before we get into it, though, Samantha, 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 1: what are you sitting on this happy hour today? I 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: am drinking on our local brewery, Monday Night Breweries, uh 26 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 1: Nor Water, which is their diversion of heart Seltzer's, And 27 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: this flavor is key lime cherry. So you would hate 28 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: it because you don't like fruit. Actually, this is not 29 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: supposed to be artificial, though I like it necessarily. Yeah, 30 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: they use the real fruits in such glottle jammy year. 31 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go ahead open it for you. So 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: if you don't like listening to cans being open, skip 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: five seconds as feeling. I got it. Everything's fine, Yes, 34 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: it sounds like everything is going swimmingly over there. What 35 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: are you drinking? Friend? So? I wish I had recorded 36 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: myself making this because for an honor of today's episode 37 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: where we're going to talk about the Disney Plush show 38 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: wand Division, I made a drink I call the Scarlet Twitch. 39 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: Actually only am calling it that for this episode, but 40 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: I used my famous in my book Color Changing Gin. Yeah, 41 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: as you put some butterfly pea flowers in gin, and 42 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: then I put edible glitter and you let it do 43 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: its thing. And then when you put it in, if 44 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: you add any acidity like lemon or lime juice, it 45 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 1: changes colors. So it's some of that. And then I 46 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: put in a lot of lime and then cranberry juice 47 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: and then finished it out with sparkling water. So it's 48 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: a nice Samantha can tell you to reddish color. Yes, 49 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: it's light red h otherwise could be seen as kind 50 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: of pinking. And it's really delicious. I didn't want to 51 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: put in that much cranberry juice to make the color 52 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: that I wanted, Yes, but the idea is there. It 53 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: is there. I like it. Yes, it's tasty drink. It's 54 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: very lime, a lot of like sour tanking lime notes happening. 55 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: I love that. M hm. Alright. So yes, we are 56 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: going to talk about the Disney Plus Show one division. 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: So we're a bit behind the times. I feel that 58 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: feels like forever ago, and that was coming out. It 59 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: really wasn't one preface that a B. Again, we were 60 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 1: debating on whether or not we want to do spoiled anything, 61 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: because people do get very upset. I just read the 62 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: Reddit section of am I the Ask, and they were 63 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: talking about a dude who goes to happy hours and 64 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: such just to spoil things for people, and it's a 65 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: jerk about it, to the point that he will find 66 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: out what you're reading and then look it up in 67 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: Wikipedia and tell you about it, even though he hadn't 68 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: actually read it, because he it just brings some joy 69 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: to make other people miserable. H And so people hate 70 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: the stuff really seriously, yes, which is why we were like, 71 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: do we don't me? Yeah, but there are so many 72 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: things that we want to talk about that our current 73 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: and I do think there's been movies on the back 74 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: of my mind that I feel like there's a really 75 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: great conversation, feminist conversation behind them. And then we have 76 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: originally it was gonna be Spoiled Saturdays. So this has 77 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: been a long time making. Yes, And there's a lot 78 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: of requests for you to give your opinions on these 79 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: shows and movies. So also we do hear you, we do, 80 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: so here we go, Yes, yes we do, but we 81 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: definitely don't want to be that guy at the bar. 82 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: Don't be that coworker people spoiling happy hours. I had 83 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: a friend that did that to me with the last 84 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: Harry Potter book. But the best part was he messed 85 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: it up. So I was really upset and I cried 86 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: and cried and cried because he told me the ending. 87 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: He like fl to the last and told me the ending, 88 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: but it didn't end at the part he flipped to. 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: It kept right, so he was wrong. I thought you 90 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: got me jokes on him. The joke is on him. Okay. 91 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: So the very brief plot of Wanda Vision is, let's 92 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,799 Speaker 1: see how to explain it's a weird show. I'm gonna 93 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: say that at the top, but basically it's dealing with grief, 94 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: and the premise is sort of you see Wanda maxim 95 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: Off are the Scarlet which she gets that name throughout 96 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: this show in a very idealistic suburban neighborhood with her 97 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: husband Vision and later her two children, and just sort 98 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: of these like increasingly weird events happening that are like, okay, 99 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: something's going on here. And then every episode is a 100 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: different decade of television kind of being represented, and usually 101 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: specific show or sitcom. So it's like I believe it 102 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: starts in the nineteen fifties, and then it goes up 103 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: to the present and this takes place after the most 104 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: recent Avengers movie, End Game. Then you get to see, yes, yes, 105 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: there's something happening outside of this like perfect Bubble or 106 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: in her head, perfect bubble. She's built herself. And there 107 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: are characters that we've seen from previous Marvel movies like Darcy, 108 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: You've got Monica Rambo. Yeah. Yeah, So that's the that's 109 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: the plot in general. And then we wanted to talk 110 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: about one of the most interesting things I thought about 111 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: this show when I was watching it. It's because it 112 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: does take place through the decades. You do get to 113 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: see these stereotypes around women on TV throughout, and it's 114 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: especially like at the beginning when I like the fifties women, 115 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: and of course, in the back of your head this 116 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: whole time, you're thinking, well, is it vision dead here? Um? 117 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, especially right in the beginning when you would 118 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: see Wanda trying to fit into this, you know, stereotypical 119 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: fifties housewife trope, and it just felt weird to see 120 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: her trying to do that because you know her as 121 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: a superhero, as one of the Avengers, and now She's 122 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: like trying to run a magic show and keep her 123 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: powers hidden and making cakes, right, chicken, lobsters, rabbits. It's 124 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: not a minute since I've seen this show, so I 125 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: feel like you could make something up and I'd be like, 126 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: when did that happen? So the rabbit was the main 127 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: Katherine Haunt Agnes m hm her pet oh yeah, which 128 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: I think has a bigger plot point in the comics, 129 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: but it is in reference to and the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 130 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: So there is Affin Hahn. Some of the actors in 131 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: this Catherine Hahn played Agatha. You have Cat Dinning's starcy 132 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: Um Andrew w k really yeah, threw me off. Threw 133 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: me off too. You have Randall park him love Fancy, 134 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: and then yes, you do have elizaeth Olsen as Wanda 135 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: maxim Off and Paul Bettany as a vision and then 136 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: randomly Evan Peters. Yes, I feel like he was just 137 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: such the throwaway character, Like I get what they were doing, 138 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: but the climax was so antichomatic that you're like, oh, right, okay, yeah, no, 139 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: it was. I mean, it was exciting, but it was 140 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: it was It did feel kind of anti climactic to me. 141 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: That is no shade on like anybody it was super 142 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: excited about it or even the plot line, but I 143 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: just yeah, I was kind of like, oh, well, I 144 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: mean because like not to go to forward. But like 145 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: in the end, it really he really has doesn't have 146 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: a lot of significance as you would hope for. It's 147 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: almost like tongue in cheek and You're like, maybe I'm 148 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: missing something. Maybe I'm missing something because there was all 149 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: these indications of the crossover of the universes, and I 150 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: know everybody people because I had had to come to 151 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: you like every week. I think we had to sit 152 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: down about it. But I thought maybe that's what was happening. 153 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: But in the end, it was just like kind of 154 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: a throwaway character of I'm not supposed to be here. 155 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,479 Speaker 1: My name is so is so Ralph, I'm Ralph. Yeah, 156 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: these universes are so big, and now that Disney has 157 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: twentieth Century and they have their own X men, as 158 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, I could talk about this and I confuse 159 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: everyone forever, but there's all of that going on, so 160 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 1: it's hard to say, like maybe it will be something 161 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: different when whoever next the sides, whatever story line is 162 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: going to go and be the cannon. I will say 163 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: there was some crossover and I don't know if it 164 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: was purposeful between Schill Agents of Child and the show. 165 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: And I really like Agents of Shield. I will say 166 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: I haven't been able to watch the last two or 167 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: three seasons because it's I kind of got, you know, 168 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: disenchanted with it, I guess the best word. But like 169 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: a few things, I was like, oh that I we 170 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: started watching some of the Ages of the Shield and 171 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: I was like, that person, isn't this one? And this 172 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: was like the because I my stupid, useless superpower is 173 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: that I can recognize people and know where they come from. 174 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: But I may not know their names right, so I'll 175 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: have to look it up. But I have a really 176 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: good recollection of faces and what other shows they've been in. Yeah, 177 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: I can attest that this is true. I'm weird on 178 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: that one, but yeah, I was able to do that 179 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: between the two shows, which made more sense since it 180 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: is an interlocking world sort of. Yeah, and I one 181 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: of the interesting pieces of news that came out recently 182 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: because we all were in part because the cast and 183 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: crew were teasing as about it, waiting for this huge cameo, 184 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: and it never really came right, and they recently said, well, 185 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: we didn't want to bring a doctor strange and be 186 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: a white guy savior like coming in to say the day. 187 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: I was like, well, I didn't have to save the day, 188 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 1: but all right, I appreciate the point. But they were 189 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: trying to pretend Evan Peters right, because other part was 190 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: that it was just could have been like the multiverse, right. Well, 191 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Paul Bettany was trying to tease and say, oh, I 192 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: was talking about myself. Mm hmm. I know that, but 193 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: I was like why why why? Yeah, that's interesting. I 194 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: mean I guess maybe it's the what is it white 195 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: vision at the end, Yeah, like he comes to himself 196 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 1: and that he comes back, and I guess he's out 197 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: there in the world and has collected all of the 198 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: original vision's memories. But that doesn't mean he's vision obviously. Yeah. Yeah, 199 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: I remember when that was the next day that like 200 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: weird thought experiment was trending on Twitter and I was like, 201 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: what the But then I watched the episode, Okay, so weird, 202 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: Yeah I did. I mean in terms of women in 203 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: feminism and I do you think like the whole seeing 204 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: that how when we were represented over the decades and 205 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 1: sort of that quick succession. It was pretty jarring and 206 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: pretty like, oh wow, yeah, the nineties was still real 207 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: messed up, huh all of that. And then I did 208 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: I feel like we should talk about witches because that 209 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: did end up being kind of the big reveal is 210 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: that Agatha slash Agnes is this witch and she was 211 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: in this coven that tried to kill her or restraining 212 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: her at least like restraining her powers, and then she 213 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: ended up killing all of them. Um, and it has 214 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: been sort of controlling this whole thing all along to 215 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: get to Scarlett, which is power are Wanda's power? And 216 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: I had so many friends I hate to be this person, 217 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: but even you you we we we talked about it 218 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: before this happened, where if you know the comics, unless 219 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: they are taking a big diversion, you're kind of like, yes, 220 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen. But I had some friends who 221 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: didn't know the comics, and they were so disappointed because 222 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: they were like, I want to wander Aga to go 223 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: fee witches together, like the best friends. Didn't one of 224 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: the comics actually have them doing that like they were. 225 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: She was, she was a mentor for her, so that's 226 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: what I like. I'm I'm hoping that it grows bigger 227 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: because Katherine Han ends up being alive. She's less power, 228 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: but she ends up being alive of course, so of 229 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: course that gives her an easy pathway into this world, 230 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: I really hope, because Katherine Hahn is a treasure. She 231 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: is a freaking treasure. Yeah, so is raynald Park. They 232 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: are freaking treasures. They should remain in this universe forever. 233 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: So I hope that's the case that they will bring 234 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: that about. But yeah, in the comics, originally she was 235 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: a mentor and not necessarily someone who was a nemesis 236 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 1: as pain in the show. Yeah, and that's that's always 237 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: been one of the hardest sales for me, Which is 238 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 1: funny because I love like supernatural stuff and which is 239 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: and all that, but it feels kind of odd in 240 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: this universe, especially if you're talking about the cinematic portion 241 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: of it, where even if it's like ridiculous movie magic science, 242 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: it's still kind of like science. And now it's like 243 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: which is right? But I mean, and that the whole 244 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: point was that she her power didn't reveal itself until 245 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: she was experimented on. Yeah, no, absolutely it's complete, like 246 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: just disconnecting my brain. It makes sense for me for 247 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: some reason. I'm like, we're going back to the sing 248 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: of them, which trials. So does it make it? And 249 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: this is a question because and because I think it's 250 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 1: purposeful obviously, um and what what they are trying to do, 251 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: especially with the pandemic and quarantine and the way that 252 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: we're releasing things. Of course they were always intended for 253 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: one division to be a little series and then moving 254 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: on to the big screen. But do you think them 255 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: doing that made that gap even more like apparent for you? No, 256 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I really think this is just 257 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: a total hang up of mine because like I was 258 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: that way with Thor where I've original I didn't really 259 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: care for Thor until Thor Ragnarok, which there are a 260 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: lot of reasons for that is not only because of 261 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: this sort of god element, but it just kind of 262 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: felt like, Okay, this seems it like is an outlier. 263 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: It stands out, but it totally makes I mean, it's 264 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: like you know, a universe where anything can happen. I 265 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: don't know why this is like right right, this is 266 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: the one thing that you don't believe. Everything else is fine, possible, 267 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: but this which thing, Hell, no, it's totally my own problem. Well, 268 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: and I would say for me, who who? Again? I 269 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: I do things based on entertainment and not necessarily because 270 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: of love. So I would not try to insult anyone 271 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: who is into these comics and who have grown up 272 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: with these comics and who feel really hard alliances and 273 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: allegiances to specific things about the comic. I did find 274 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: it really entertaining, and I think it to me again, 275 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: like it was the whole you're wait for the special 276 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 1: character that was unnecessary. Why they needed to do that? 277 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: Had they been quiet, I think know, been less jarring, 278 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: especially with Evan Peter showing. Don't get me wrong, I 279 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: was like, what he sees quicksilver from this and trying 280 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: to explain to my partner who was watching it with me, 281 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: who is not as good at putting two into characters 282 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: together as well as if he falls asleep in a 283 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: majority of the movies we watched. But like, it still 284 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: was not the impact that the a I think we're 285 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: trying to tease be again, the ending just didn't match. 286 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: I was like, that was it, that was the whole? 287 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: That was it? Okay? Cool? I guess but for me, 288 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:58,239 Speaker 1: like as again a spectator of just enjoying it as entertainment, 289 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: I really did enjoy it. I did have a hard 290 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: time with the first two because it was so slow 291 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: and build up. Looking back on it is not but 292 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: I know that was a trend in all of Twitter. 293 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: People are like, Okay, what is happening? Is it worth 294 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: continuing on? Do I need to keep watching it? Everybody's like, 295 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, it gets better. And then again, as 296 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: you were saying, the whole plot of grief, we can all, 297 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: especially this last year unfortunately, we can all understand that 298 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: depth of pain and trying to work that out in 299 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: ourselves and trying to work through it and what that 300 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,199 Speaker 1: looks like to work through it or if you can 301 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: work through it. And also this whole overlying arc of 302 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: the evil dude manipulating. Yeah, and I'm talking about the 303 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: director right, manipulating her grief for power and as a 304 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: whole different level. Yeah, and I think it's I'm assuming 305 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: it was purposeful. But to have a character you have 306 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: Monica Rambo who lost her mom, and then um you 307 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: have Diarcy and then Randall Jimmy running around and they're 308 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: all marginalized people are minorities, and they were the ones 309 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: that were like, no, she's greeting like we can't, we 310 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: don't have to attack her, right, like she needs help, right, 311 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: and she did. Also there's also underlying manipulation. Some white 312 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: man is doing this, Yes, yes, and I do. I 313 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to touch on that very briefly because Samantha 314 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: and I watched one of the Halloween episode together and 315 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: there is a line in there where the director calls 316 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: Monica sassy, and we both looked at each other like 317 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: like a sassy black woman trying to get herder shut 318 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: up when she's totally right. And then I did think 319 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: it was interesting. There was a lot of conversation around 320 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: the costuming in it, which I know I've talked about 321 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: a lot before, but I think it's hasn't been as resent. 322 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: But like in back in Bridge and I did the 323 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: feminism of Star Wars, I talked about that a lot, 324 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: about the importance of costuming and um, Elizabeth Olsen was 325 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: really vocal, but she wanted the original scarlet Witch outfitted 326 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: there and that was in the Halloween one. But then 327 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: at the end when she gets the new outfit and 328 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: you see this big fight between her and Catherine Han 329 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: in the air and they're so powerful. That was cool 330 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: to see too. Yeah, to see these two women and 331 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: and Catherine Hahn. By the way, it's also in Spider Verse, 332 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: and I kept being like, is she oh, yeah, she 333 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: is this a multiverse with her? But she is Dr Octopus. 334 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: I'm having a moment because of James Bond and octopusy 335 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: and just sexism in that that I don't like that 336 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: title in general. Whole different conversation. But yeah, I completely 337 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: forgot about that. Yeah, well that's what because or even 338 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: all that happened when Evan Peters was on and then 339 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: Spider Man had just come out and they cast out 340 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: for Malina to be in the New Spider Man with 341 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: Tom Holland and they already said it's a multiverse and J. K. 342 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: Simmons showed up in the Last Spider right, and so 343 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: that's why it was kind of like an extra layer 344 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: of will, wait, what's going on here? Because um, are 345 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: you doing a multiverse thing? Because you've already started doing that, 346 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,200 Speaker 1: But is Evan Peters part of that? Who's doing this? 347 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: Where is it coming from? And again like, yeah, we 348 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: I think people are expecting Dr Strange at one point, 349 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: because that is also a part of the comics. So 350 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: this is how okay, I must ask because I'm again 351 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a spectator. I feel very much enjoying what 352 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm getting. How much disappointment do you have when it 353 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: doesn't follow the script of the comics and or are 354 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: you glad it doesn't happen? I am actually really happy 355 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: you asked that, because I have a lot of thoughts, 356 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: but I try so hard not to be that person. 357 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: I am not a really I'm not a big protector 358 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: of it's only this and I'm going to be super 359 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: disappointed because I just think that's not a fun way 360 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: to be for you and for anybody else. But like, 361 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: you're not gonna enjoy anything, especially in a huge, sprawling 362 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: universe like Marvel, like where one character could have had 363 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: fifteen different platfoints at some at some point. So I 364 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: don't usually get mad at that as long as and 365 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: this can get really tricky Marvel if I feel like 366 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,919 Speaker 1: they get really far off what the heart of the 367 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: character is, that's what bothers me. Like if if I 368 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: can convince myself, I think, you know, maybe this isn't 369 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 1: what I happened. The comic books. But I can see 370 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: this character in their motivation doing this in this situation, 371 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 1: So I'm not really um protective. And there are certain 372 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: instances like, um, I think the movies have done this 373 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: really well, or they'll put in an easter egg where 374 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: maybe they didn't go that route that that the comics did, 375 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 1: but they'll make it like a little wink of like 376 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: for those in the know though, you know. And one 377 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: example of that was the Captain America when he leaned 378 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: in and said, hell Hydra in the elevator and in game, 379 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: because in the comps he does get all stit up 380 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: with Hydra. Very unpopular plotline though some type of way, 381 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: and people would feel some type of way. I think 382 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: if they actually put that on film, oh absolutely, I mean, 383 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: but that is the interesting thing, and we are we 384 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: are planning on doing um Falcon and the Winter Soldier. 385 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: But that is the interesting thing kind of about that 386 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: whole um show. But one thing I noticed about this 387 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 1: is there's a part of you that almost gets sad 388 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: sometimes that I know how things end and I don't 389 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: want I'm happy to see it play out and hear 390 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 1: other people's excitement. But I think that's one of the 391 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: reasons why I was talking to you about this, Samantha, 392 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: where I felt like the show is overrated, and I 393 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: think part of that is I didn't have that same 394 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: I was kind of like, Yep, this is how it goes, 395 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: and they did they did things differently to like they 396 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: were definitely surprises, but in general, I was like, yeah, 397 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 1: that's it. But also I'm starting to think that my 398 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: overrated is other people's normal, just because I'm super passionate 399 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: about things. Yeah, So I think, like, especially when it 400 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: comes to like Marvel and Star Wars, I'm like up 401 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: here all the time, and I'm indicating like the ceiling 402 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: that if I'm not like up there, then I think 403 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: it's overrated. But I still like it. I mean, there's 404 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: a reason why people want your opinions on this because 405 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: they know you know right for sure, Yeah, And I 406 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,719 Speaker 1: know I really think I like it, And I think 407 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: it's one of those things like maybe even if I 408 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: watched it again and I didn't have because that's another 409 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: issue of when you have these expectations of how it's 410 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: going to play out because you have read stuff, comics 411 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: or whatever, then you can get in your head about that. 412 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: And I think they can distract you. Oh yeah. In general, 413 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: I'm not protective. I think it's good to try new 414 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: things as long as you don't go like way away 415 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: from the heart of it. And I'm right yeah and 416 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: again yeah, I come from a person who only has 417 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: watched the movies in story, and I've asked you about 418 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 1: a few things, and I will read about it, like 419 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: the behind the scenes or other things that you should notice, 420 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: or here are the easter eggs? Love that, Love that, 421 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: But I don't know so for me, Like again, I 422 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: think Age of Ultron was one of the least liked 423 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: movies of all time. I liked it, and I'm like, 424 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: maybe it's because I don't quite grasp the level or 425 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 1: the depth or how far they fell off of what 426 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: was being done at that point in time. I don't know. 427 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: Maybe it was a weird accent. I do have the 428 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: thing about that, like why do they have this accent? 429 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: What is this accent? Why does it keep going away? 430 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: Which again I do love that they addressed that in London, 431 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: like what is with the stupid accent? Uh? And I 432 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: appreciate that, but like I enjoy it for what it 433 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: is and move on. Of course, I'm also a big 434 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: James Spader fan. I really hope he's not a creep. 435 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: I haven't done anything yet about him being a creepe, 436 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: so for now, i'll say that with that caveat. So 437 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: I enjoyed him playing Ultron as a sarcastic, you know, 438 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: nihilistic self in general, So I love that in itself. 439 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, again, I come from a complete review just 440 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: entertained me, and I'm just gonna watch it and moving on. Yeah. Yeah, 441 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: And I do think wand Division tried something really interesting, 442 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: like for a format of a show to be pretty weird, 443 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: where it's yeah, I got this kind of the Office 444 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: themed episode and it's got sort of a full house 445 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: and Brady Bunch themed episode, and I think that was 446 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: really fun. And I think for a lot of people 447 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: that was really really fun of like, oh yeah, I 448 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: remember that house or you know, from my childhood. And 449 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: I think that was Again, this is such a huge 450 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:49,640 Speaker 1: profitable Disney owned universe, and I there's a fear that 451 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: Disney will be like, you can't try anything interesting anymore. 452 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: So I think that was really cool that they did that, 453 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: and it was really interesting, and I think it worked 454 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: really well and people really liked it. And so far 455 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 1: Disney has been pretty willing for those experiments. But I 456 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: remember when it first came out, people like, this is weird. Yeah, 457 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: I definitely like this is slow, what's happening? Yeah, because 458 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: it was so different than Marvel One, but a lot 459 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: of other shows in general. Right. I think it was 460 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: also like the fact that it was satirical in a 461 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,680 Speaker 1: way that you know, when are we getting to the point? Yeah, exactly, 462 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 1: And two episodes seemed like a long time. Yeah, yeah 463 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: for sure. And then one of one other thing I 464 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: really wanted to touch on is we won't go into 465 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: depth about this because we talked about at a toime, 466 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: but motherhood was a big part of this show too, 467 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: Wanda's protective instincts and her desire for these children and 468 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 1: to protect these children. So that's something we see again. 469 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: I feel like one of the areas the show fell 470 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 1: down for me, which again I really liked it, but 471 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: I think I don't care about vision. I really didn't 472 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,679 Speaker 1: care about her kids. Oh No, that's just like the 473 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: It wasn't there like the emotional And I do think 474 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 1: because I was talking to someone else about this recently, 475 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: and I do think it's a tough sell to suddenly 476 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 1: be in one movie like, Okay, Wanda and Envision are 477 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: together and there in love, like deeply in love, and 478 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: you haven't seen any of that in this It's like, oh, 479 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: here are kids and we're in love with them, and 480 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, what right, You're right. I felt like 481 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: the original push for them to be together felt so 482 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: disingenuous it was jarring. I think it's come to the 483 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: point that we all have accepted it. We're like, Okay, 484 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: we'll just keep going with that. But isn't the next 485 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: plot point for Wanda these children. They're a big part 486 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,359 Speaker 1: of her story. And that was really funny when um, 487 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: one of my friends was like, what did she say? Like, 488 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: no way, is she's just gonna randomly get pregnant and 489 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: give birth to two children? Right, I just didn't say 490 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: anything like yeah, that was ridiculous, I will say that. 491 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: But again, a willing suspicion of disbelief throughout all these movies. 492 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: Oh sure, sure, I got no problem with that. But 493 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: and I think like all the actors just did great. 494 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: There's no shade to any of them. And Elizabeth Olsen 495 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: did a really great job of selling like maybe I 496 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: don't care so much about Vision and their relationship. But 497 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: I believe that she does, and she's grieving and it's 498 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: very sad, and like when her kids all disappeared, very 499 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: very sad. But that was one of the areas to 500 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,239 Speaker 1: because the whole premise of the show was kind of 501 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: her grief about Vision and her relationship with Vision. So 502 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: if I wasn't buying into that, I was kind of like, 503 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm not feeling it as emotionally as I think I 504 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: should be feeling it, right. I mean, again, we talked 505 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: about this even Star Wars. There's a lot of times 506 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: we're like, you just lost someone significant in your life, 507 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm sad moving on to see someone 508 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: who actually sits back and be like, no, this is 509 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: tragic and affects how I think and how I feel 510 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: and how I impact others. Again, we didn't talk about 511 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: the trauma, and when you talk about that, like, I 512 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: know that's men of Twitter to thing about what about 513 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: the towns people justice? For sure, I know that's a 514 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: great point because I feel like that's something not to 515 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: talk about this too much. But as someone who does 516 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: read like books or comics or sort of this outside entertainment, 517 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: like I read the whole book about Luke Skyward Walker's 518 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: trauma PTSD. That's not in the movies, but it exists, 519 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: and like the comics and books, and the same is 520 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: true with Marvel for sure, Like that stuff isn't necessarily 521 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: made for a twenty to thirty minute show were show 522 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: on Disney Plus, I totally get it, but I do 523 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: think that was one of my That was one of 524 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: the things that just didn't work for me. And then 525 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: just to wrap it up, I the ending where um 526 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: Wanta learns about her magic, has this grieving moment, let's 527 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: go accepts what's happened or do you know at least 528 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: isn't having a false perfect suburban town anymore, and she goes, 529 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: and at least from the end credit scene, it seems 530 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: to indicate she's really taking control of her own destiny 531 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: and she's going to learn all about her powers and 532 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: how to control them. And that was one of the 533 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: biggest issues some people had with endgame. Well not one 534 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: of the biggest, but she's technically like, if not the 535 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: most powerful Avengers. She's up there, and um so, I 536 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: feel like this is a real jumping off point for 537 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: her characters. We'll see where it goes well that has 538 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: been On the first episode of Spoiled Thursdays, we started 539 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: off with and we don't really have a structure to this, 540 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: which is gonna talk and I was like, oh, it's 541 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: gonna be a thirty minute episode. Here we go. We're 542 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: absolutely correct and we could keep going. 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