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Damn right, it's a great song. 21 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: Yeah that's your best one yet. Oh yeah, it's your 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: best one yet. 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: Sanford and Son was pretty good. 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 6: I stumbled on it. 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: Yes, Sanford Sundays is the whole time greatest stumbled stumbled upon. 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 6: A best song. 27 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: You know, by the way, anything great you have to 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: stumble upon Jonas. 29 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 6: But I was basically getting. 30 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 4: At, well, you've been firing off rounds from what I 31 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 4: hear before the show, So. 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 7: Dang, what are you talking about? 33 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 8: What are you talking on? Jonas? 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 3: Would you say Patty speaks? 35 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: Looks like, oh, that's that's rude. 36 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm going ham. Well, well he made the voice. It 37 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: was like, dang, does it looked like Cartman? It's much 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: taller than Cartman. Come on, it's not a more jack l. 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, matching the pis see that? Yeah it was. 40 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 8: That was pretty good. 41 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 3: That was that. 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 7: You don't watch South Park? 43 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 8: No, no, he doesn't watch that. 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: I'm more of a South Central guy. 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 8: Are you read ready to do that again? 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 6: No? 47 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 7: No, if I can h. 48 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: They didn't come out as good that time. 49 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 8: No, that was actually pretty good. 50 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't the best. I guess I ail firing off 51 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: shots right now? 52 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: What's that about? You know what you need? Dude? 53 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 7: Wipes? 54 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: You've ever wiped with a piece of dry toilet paper? 55 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 4: And wondered, is this as good as you gets? It's 56 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 4: not switched to life changing wet extra large plushable dude 57 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 4: wipes because weather just cleans better available Amazon and that 58 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: major retailers nationwide dude Wipe's best clean pants down. 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: All right, So, I mean that's just a wild ending, man. 60 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you stick the landing, but it's just that's 61 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: a wild ending for screws. 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 5: I don't know why they don't take my little model. 63 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 5: It's a breath then for your ass. Yeah, I do 64 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 5: feel like that holds true. 65 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: I do say that. I declare that that is it's 66 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: pretty good. That is pretty good. 67 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 7: Bro, could be taking that pants down. 68 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 8: I'm sure you would take it the wrong way. 69 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 3: Some people would. 70 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: But why why why would a breath mint be taking 71 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: the wrong way. 72 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: As people take people take everything the wrong way? 73 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: Now you want to you want to know what's crazy? 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: Jonas I use dude wipes and and even just yesterday, 75 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: it's like, man like, when I use dude wipes, I 76 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: think of a breath mint for my ass, and honest 77 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: to God, that's what's in my head in that moment. 78 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 5: Can I be honest to Yeah? I think I'm this 79 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 5: before to you guys. But I sincerely mean that you 80 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 5: get a free pass. You get one free pass, that 81 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 5: first one that comes out like first fart, can't smell it? 82 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: Really yeah, talking, I mean that's a selling point right there, man, 83 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean, come on. 84 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: What is happening right now? 85 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 7: What do you mean we're having to do? 86 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 5: That's what happens when the Ravens hired Jesse Miner. Yeah, 87 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 5: it's like a right. 88 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 8: Good high I see. 89 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 4: All right, So here's my question about the Jesse Mintor 90 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: higher with the Ravens, because Steve Bashatti sat up there 91 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 4: and said, Hey, if Lamar Jackson wants to be involved 92 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: with this whole hiring process, you know he's going to 93 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 4: get his ass up from Florida and be a. 94 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 3: Part of this whole thing. 95 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: And I'm looking at the hire of Jesse Mintor and 96 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,239 Speaker 4: I'm thinking, I'll bet Lamar never got on the plane. 97 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: I'll bet he never even showed up, because it just 98 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 4: it feels like a Listen, he spent a couple of 99 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: years with Harbott, the at the NFL level, at the 100 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: at the college level, spent time with the Ravens organization. 101 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 4: It just feels like, oh, well, we know him better. 102 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: Than the other guys. So we'll just bring him back 103 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 4: because he's familiar with how we operate around here. 104 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 3: Like it, It doesn't feel like this would have been 105 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: if you were. 106 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 4: Trying to maximize the back portion of Lamar Jackson's career, 107 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 4: that this would have been the direction you would have gone. 108 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean maybe I First off, I just sent 109 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 5: you a text as to five days ago at least 110 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 5: what I think Lamar has been up to. 111 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 8: But you're not wrong. 112 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 5: He most he might have been consultant in all this, 113 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 5: but I don't believe based on recent footage, he was 114 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 5: deeply involved in these head coaching interviews. But my big 115 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 5: question is, Okay, so you got your guy to help 116 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 5: the defense improve, who's the OC like? And I don't 117 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 5: mean that and in like a derogatory manner about any 118 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 5: defensive minded head coach. 119 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 8: We'll get to what I sent you. E just give 120 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 8: it a second. 121 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 5: But the reality is it's the same thing if you 122 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,159 Speaker 5: hire a defensive mind head coach in Buffalo. 123 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 8: Who's the OC? 124 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 5: Because you know that's as big, if not you know, 125 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 5: bigger of a higher when you've got a quarterback like 126 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson. When you have a quarterback like Josh Allen. 127 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 5: But again, I don't think, based on my research, guys, 128 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 5: that Lamar was heavily involved in these head coaching interviews. 129 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: I feel like he's a relative unknown guys. I don't 130 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: I know who he is. You know, Yeah, y'all want 131 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: to saw you look at it Lamar one more, y'all 132 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: want to address Lamar. 133 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 4: So I think that that's I do remember seeing that 134 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 4: a little while back, Lamar Jackson at a field trial 135 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 4: in what looks to be an altered state. 136 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: He appeared to be. 137 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: Just time traveling and was getting some to go food 138 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 4: at a at a food truck. You sure can, Reverend, 139 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 4: you can smoke it too. But I do wonder if 140 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: that was Lamar's first time at that food truck, because 141 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 4: it appeared like he was familiar with the surroundings. 142 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: So, I mean, it looked like some good food man, 143 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: you know, And that's like the that's the new thing, 144 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: the new wave is taking your good food to you know, 145 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: the food truck. I mean, go to where the fish are, 146 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: don't try to get the fish to come to you. 147 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: You know, That's what you know in the business, you know, 148 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: with brick and mortar becoming kind of weird, and you know, 149 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: all this technology changing how you're able to get a 150 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: hold of your food. I mean, lamar, Lamar did it? 151 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Like he got up, you know, he went to the 152 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: food truck and got him some while he was filling. 153 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: I wonder if he went to the food truck feeling 154 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: good after he saw this hire though. That's what I mean. 155 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: The guy did play receiver when he was a player. 156 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: Now I don't understand this whole flip flopping with guys. 157 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: You know that, you know he he wasn an offensive guy. 158 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: He just ended up coaching defense and more often than not. 159 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean I coached an I was an offensive coordinator 160 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: my last year of coaching high school football, and I 161 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: was a defense. 162 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 7: What happened? 163 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 8: What happened? 164 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 2: Looks like he's left the country. 165 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 4: Oh man, Now Bar's time traveling. 166 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 8: He's back here. 167 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: Damn I heard. 168 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: All the whole time. I'm not time traveling. I mean, 169 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: I could be it's Friday, but not yet. Now here's 170 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 1: the thing, right, it could be a great hire. He 171 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: is to me an obscure, unknown entity, so I can't 172 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: really judging one way or the other. I would say 173 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: the biggest question here is what group of people went 174 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: into the selection of him being the head coach. I 175 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: don't think this is an indictment on him. I don't 176 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: feel like there's I don't feel like I need to 177 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: attack him because the verdict would be out talking about 178 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: a new start, I said, I would want to see 179 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: a new start. I'm tired of retrades. But man, I 180 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: don't know who he is, so I would be curious. 181 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: I mean, do you guys have any like Q Do 182 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: you have any type of understanding, got background how they 183 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: went about, you know, how they went about. 184 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 8: Don't know how, But I've got a lot of background 185 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 8: on Jesse. 186 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 5: I played actually for his dad, His Dall was our 187 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 5: defensive coordinator my last two years during my time at 188 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 5: Notre Dame, and it's one of the reasons why he 189 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 5: transitioned from playing wide receivers you pointed out at Mount 190 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 5: Saint Joseph and then turning over to the defensive side 191 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 5: of the ball, which he's been on for the entirety 192 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 5: of his coaching career, starting a Notre Dame back when 193 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 5: he was a graduate intern my senior year and then 194 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 5: going to Cincinnati as a graduate assistant and so forth 195 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 5: from there. 196 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 8: So he's he's been on that side the ball for 197 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 8: a while. He's you know. 198 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 5: One of those like kind of young minds when I 199 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 5: mean you jump into it and you're in the NFL 200 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 5: in you know, kind of a you know, I wouldn't 201 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 5: say somewhat of a significant role, you know, after I've 202 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 5: had coached for a while. But also at the same time, 203 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 5: like you know, he's he's been a coordinator too, like 204 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 5: early in his career. He was probably twenty eight twenty 205 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 5: nine when he first started calling defense back in college, 206 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 5: So that kind of says a lot, right like when 207 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 5: you're and he might have been younger because I think 208 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 5: it at Indiana State he. 209 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 8: Called the defense. But he's he's been doing this kind 210 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 8: of for a while now. 211 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 5: It's just he's been hasn't been known up the NFL ranks, 212 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 5: but his dad's was was well known in coaching circles. 213 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 5: He built up a lot of credibility, I know with 214 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 5: the Ravens organization back when he first went there. And 215 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,719 Speaker 5: then obviously he has the uh, the voted confidence on 216 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 5: the hardballs, like that's that's a huge thing. And if 217 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 5: you think about too, when Baltimore went to Mike McDonald 218 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 5: as their defensive coordinator, which now looking at what he's 219 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 5: doing in Seattle and how that's worked out, it seems 220 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 5: like they have a pretty good feel how to pick 221 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 5: some of these guys. So I think he was impressive 222 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 5: enough in his first stint with Baltimore, even though it 223 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: was as a you know, assistant, that they've kept tabs 224 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 5: on it, and they feel like based on you know, 225 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 5: how he's continued to call defense at the college level. 226 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 8: He was really good at Michigan, you. 227 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 5: Know, back in the twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three 228 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 5: and spare me the whole you know, spygate stuff and 229 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 5: all that. Like with with Connor Stallions, they were damn 230 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 5: good and you know now it's La Chargers and now 231 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 5: he's through the head coach. So I think if you're 232 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 5: Baltimore and you say, hey, look, this is our identity. 233 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 5: We want to get back to playing really, really good defense. 234 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 5: Like you mentioned yesterday, var just about kind of Trent Dilfrid, 235 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 5: like it was a defensive mind of team. You're right, 236 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 5: and like when I we played against them. 237 00:11:58,360 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 6: What. 238 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: White, White, Wait, White Wait, what did you just say. 239 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 8: When you talked about like the Baltimore's defense. 240 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 6: Before that we're after that. What you said? You said? 241 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 6: What that was right, Rady. 242 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: When talking about Bethmore's defense, Godly, man, this is going 243 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: to be a great Friday. 244 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 7: Come on, go ahead, keep going man. 245 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 5: Well, the general point is that like, that's their identity, 246 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 5: that's who they are, it's it's they need to get 247 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 5: back to that. And then obviously you need to figure 248 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 5: out who you're gonna pair with Lamar Jackson to make 249 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 5: the offense work. But I look at this team, I 250 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 5: feel like they need to get back to putting the 251 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 5: fear of God in their opponents with their defense. And 252 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 5: and look, maybe that comes when you have ed Reed, 253 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 5: maybe it comes when you have Ray Lewis or some 254 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 5: of the other defensive players they had over the years 255 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 5: that are granted Hall of famers. But still there was 256 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 5: a mentality there too, and I think he's got the 257 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:57,439 Speaker 5: ability to bring that back. 258 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 8: And I think whoever. 259 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 5: They bring as the see it's gonna be a huge 260 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 5: move and they're gonna have to keep finding probably new 261 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 5: OC's if things go well, but I think this hire 262 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,719 Speaker 5: is one that could work for what they need most 263 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 5: right now. 264 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: There's also the other element that probably didn't get discussed 265 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: enough but the injuries were a real problem for Baltimore 266 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 4: this year, Like that was that was a real issue 267 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 4: and they couldn't stay healthy. And I'm just I'm assuming 268 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 4: unless you're you know, the Chargers and you just deal 269 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 4: with it every year, I'm assuming health would be a 270 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 4: little bit more on the side of Baltimore this year, 271 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: which probably would help. And who knows, maybe it turns 272 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 4: into a Seattle situation where Seattle's defense looks fantastic and 273 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 4: they've got Mike McDonald, they're running the show and you're 274 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: just hoping you get enough on offense and there's no 275 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 4: catastrophic mistakes that keep you in games because you know 276 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: the defense is going to do their part. So from 277 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 4: that standpoint, I mean, I guess this this could work. 278 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,720 Speaker 4: But if Lamar Jackson's not out there and not and 279 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: not healthy and available and playing like it just feels 280 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 4: like they're to be up against it, that's. 281 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: Going to be the biggest story moving forward. I mean, 282 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: that's it's I mean, obviously the owner set of you know, Piscatti. 283 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: Vashadi set a tone by saying he can't give the 284 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: power to his players, but he wants their input. A 285 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: lot of criticism and scrutiny has fallen upon Lamar Jackson, 286 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: and I think that this is going to be a 287 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: telling moment for Lamar Jackson's career, you know, because I 288 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: know for me, not speaking for anyone else, and I 289 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: know we're up against the break, but I just know 290 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: for me, I came away from this season I'm not 291 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: sure Lamar Jackson hasn't hit his ceiling. Wow, I'm not sure. 292 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: I know he's a great talent. I know that I 293 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: know that he hasn't been able to stay healthy and 294 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: that plays a part in my thought process of could 295 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: he have hit his ceiling? 296 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 7: But it just seems as. 297 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: Though if this new start doesn't show a rejuvenation of 298 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: how I'm viewing what Lamar Jackson is able to do 299 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: and what I saw this season, it just makes me 300 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: wonder how intense does the scrutiny get next year if 301 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson isn't able to deliver. And if I were 302 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: a betting man, I wouldn't know. I wouldn't bet that 303 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: he's going to deliver next year versus what he did 304 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: this year. That's just how I would feel about it. 305 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 5: I think it's gonna depend on the contract situation, which 306 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 5: that's I mean, as Steve Biscotti as you call him, 307 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 5: mentioned that it's it's gonna be a big it's gonna 308 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 5: be a big conversation this offseason, like that's that's one 309 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 5: of the bigger discussion points because the last time they 310 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 5: became such a distraction and the owner has already given 311 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 5: Lamar Jackson all the leverage saying like, we need to 312 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 5: get this done. It's a seventy five million dollars cap hit. 313 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 5: They can't carry that going into twenty twenty six. So 314 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 5: he's gonna get a new deal. It's gonna be one 315 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 5: that probably sets him up as one of the top 316 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 5: in the market, and that once that conversation is over 317 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 5: then it will turn onto the field. 318 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 8: But let's not get it twisted. They're not moving on 319 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 8: from him anywhere in the next three or four years. 320 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 5: So regardless of how he performs this year like that dude, 321 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 5: that new deal is going to insulate him from a 322 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 5: lot of that criticism because it's gonna be Jesse Meners 323 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 5: first year as head coach, first year in a new offense, 324 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 5: there's gonna be all. 325 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 8: Those things that occur. 326 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: But the contract he's gonna sign too, is gonna play 327 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 5: a huge role in keeping him basically there and without 328 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 5: really any blame for the next three or four years. 329 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 4: Oh wait, you mean they're not going to trade him 330 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 4: to the Raiders for the number one pick. I saw 331 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: that getting some run on social media. I did, Yeah, 332 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 4: that was a possibility. 333 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: Who, Like, who would do that? Like? Why would Baltimore 334 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: do that? 335 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: Like, let's let's go ahead and trade an established quarterback 336 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 4: ill in his prime for the chance to draft Fernando Mendoza. 337 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 3: Like, who would do that? It makes no sense? 338 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 8: But it did he help on the coaching search? Do 339 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 8: you guys think he did? 340 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 9: No? 341 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 4: And I was actually gonna ask you guys this because 342 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 4: obviously that one all right, So I was gonna say this, 343 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 4: But you guys, obviously being elite athletes and knowing health 344 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 4: and fitness more so than ninety nine percent of the 345 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 4: public out there, I'm just curious, do you think, if 346 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 4: you've had a history with nagging injuries like Lamar has, 347 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 4: that the best thing for your body is Mongolian food 348 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 4: off a lunch truck while high in Baltimore? 349 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 7: Do you think that that would be a little bit judgmental? 350 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,200 Speaker 3: I'm I'm asking the question. 351 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 8: You have a sali he does. 352 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 4: That's all I'm just I'm asking the question. I'm just 353 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 4: trying to get to the bottom of my answers. 354 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 8: I don't think the Mongolian food has anything to do 355 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 8: with it. 356 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 7: I mean, I'm curious. 357 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: I know he's going to be insulated by what type 358 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: of money he makes in the contract that he has, 359 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: and listen, I don't I'm not saying that he should 360 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: be gone. I'm not saying that, but I do think 361 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: that it doesn't insulate the Baltimore Ravens, doesn't insulate their 362 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 1: GM and now that the owner has inserted himself through 363 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: through this process, it doesn't insulate him. And I think 364 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: that he's going to have to perform because there's a 365 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 1: standard that's connected to the success of this organization, and 366 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: I know the owner is aware of that, So I 367 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: just wonder. I know Lamar Jackson is aware of that, 368 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: but how is he going to handle things moving forward? 369 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: You know, how are the Baltimore Ravens going to handle 370 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: things moving forward? Because a lot of that scrutiny and 371 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: criticism is going to land at Lamar's feet if it 372 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: doesn't go the way it's supposed to go. 373 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: Well, listen now, lamar, why don't you skip the lunch 374 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 4: truck and get you you some pizza Hud because here's 375 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 4: a game name tip order pizza. QB shouts the first 376 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 4: and if you're hungry, the big New Yorkers got those 377 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 4: giant foldable slices, and right now it's just ten bucks, 378 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: the biggest pizza for the biggest games, only at Pizza Hut. 379 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 4: So it is two pros and a cup of Joe 380 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 4: here on Fox Sports Radio. Oh, forgot to mention this 381 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 4: to you guys. It is a football Friday. 382 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 3: It's football Friday. 383 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:30,160 Speaker 1: Come on, bar, gotta go to break, got it, go 384 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: to break, gotta go to break. 385 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, come on, come on, Lorando, let's get the break. 386 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 6: Let's do it for Come on, do it for Eddie. 387 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 6: Come on, come on Friday. 388 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: It is a football Friday. 389 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 6: Friday. 390 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 2: Do it you compel out your f and mouth. It 391 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 2: is two. 392 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 3: On a football Friday. 393 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 4: So we've got the usuals coming up later on, we 394 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 4: got another edition of In case you missed it, We're 395 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 4: gonna have our picks against the spread for the conference 396 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 4: championship weekend in the NFL coming up an hour three. 397 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 4: We've got the leftovers as well. All of it is 398 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: yours here on this three hour extravaganza. Up next, though, 399 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 4: good news, good news for a lot of people who 400 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 4: want good things to happen on this show. 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So in a little over fifteen minutes from now. 419 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 4: A little bit of an ugly story that we will 420 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 4: get into in the National Football League. That'll be yours 421 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 4: right here on FSR. By the way, a little game 422 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 4: day tip for you. Obviously, we've got a couple of 423 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 4: big games coming up this weekend, But what does you 424 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 4: order the pizza hut before the QB shouts the first hut? 425 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 4: And if you're hungry, the big New Yorkers got those 426 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 4: giant foldable slices right now, it's just ten bucks, the 427 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 4: biggest pizza for the biggest games, only at Pizza High. 428 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 4: So the Miami Dolphins introduced Jeff Haffley and John Eric Sullivan. 429 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: Not a serial killer, just has us three names. They 430 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: introduced them yesterday in South Beach to take over the 431 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 4: direction of the organization. And of course they were asked 432 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 4: right from the jump what the plan is at quarterback 433 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 4: with Tua Tagobailoa, and it sounded like this. 434 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 13: I have a lot of respect for Tua. He's a 435 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 13: good football player. He's accomplished a lot in this league. 436 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 13: I think, whether it's whether it's two or anybody else, 437 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 13: it's unfair and irresponsible for me to sit up here 438 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 13: and talk about anything specific before I've talked to the 439 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 13: player himself. Quarterback is the most important position in professional sports, 440 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 13: you know. I also think it's the most dependent these 441 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 13: guys heard me say this in the interview process. We 442 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 13: will evaluate that position like we evaluate every other position, 443 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 13: and we will do what is best for this football team. 444 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 3: With two or anybody else. 445 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 13: To sit up here today and tell you that I 446 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 13: have a great understanding of what we're going to do 447 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 13: or which way we're going to go, that would be 448 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 13: a lie because there's just too much work to do. 449 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 13: There's too many conversations to be had at this point. 450 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 13: A lot of respect for Tua what he's accomplished in 451 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,239 Speaker 13: this league. I thought Quinn did a great job at 452 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 13: the end of the season. We have to figure that out. 453 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 13: We will, but today's not to day I can give 454 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 13: you that answer. 455 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 4: John Eric Sullivan, a new GM of the Dolphins, talking 456 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 4: about these situations. 457 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 6: I mean translation, go. 458 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 8: Ahead, what's the translation? 459 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 6: Go ahead, go ahead? Get the translation? 460 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 8: Well no, no, no, no, no, no. 461 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 5: I actually I'm not going to do a coach talk 462 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 5: or GM speak in this case. I actually like what 463 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 5: he has to say because what a lot of these 464 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 5: guys do when they get up there is they say 465 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 5: things that they have to walk back or they lie about. 466 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,199 Speaker 5: I don't think anything he said there was anything that 467 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 5: wasn't true. So I will say this, like for a 468 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 5: starting press conference, I'm O. 469 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 6: Is he gonna have to walk back? What is he 470 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 6: going to have to walk back? 471 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: Well, he didn't say anything he has to walk back, 472 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 5: so that actually works out. Well, he's not a first 473 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 5: press conference lying what. 474 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 6: Would he have to potentially walk back? Uh? 475 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 5: Saying that you know he we love to and he's 476 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 5: gonna be here next year. He's our starting you know, 477 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 5: like saying any of those definitive things that some general 478 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 5: managers say because they think that's gonna help the trade value, 479 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,959 Speaker 5: like that, Oh, if team inquires their calls about it, 480 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 5: it's gonna make the price for that trade go up. 481 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 5: There's guys who have that thought of that belief, and 482 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 5: it sounds like he's you know, very well thought out 483 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 5: in regards to any conversations. 484 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 8: He's gonna, you know, have with the media. 485 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,719 Speaker 5: He's gonna have the player first, and that's a good 486 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 5: way to start off because it's not just about the quarterback. 487 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 6: This is a roster. 488 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,679 Speaker 5: Scott probably a number of players, he's gonna have some 489 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 5: tough conversations with their conversations where you know, he might 490 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 5: be saying, you know, hey, we'd like to you know, 491 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 5: we don't think you're gonna fit in here. 492 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 8: We'd like to work there, to find somewhere else to go, 493 00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 8: We'll work with your agent. 494 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 7: You know. 495 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 8: There's there's different ways of handling it. That's all I'm saying. 496 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: He's not bought into Tua, and if he can, if 497 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: he can navigate this the least painful way of moving on, 498 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 1: he's going to move on. If he can do it, 499 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: if he can pull it off, he's going to move on. 500 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: That's the translation. 501 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 4: So, according to ESPN, the Dolphins would take a ninety 502 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 4: nine million dollar dead cap hit if they released Tua 503 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 4: before June first. The number drops is sixty seven point 504 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: four million if it's done after June first, with an 505 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 4: additional thirty one point eight million dollar dead cap hit 506 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty seven. 507 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 1: What do you think the conversation? I think the better 508 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: question is what do you think that conversation that he's 509 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: saying he needs to have with Tua is going to 510 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: sound like like if you're the GM, but what would 511 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: you say to him. 512 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 5: I would would imagine saying like, hey, you're gonna be 513 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 5: our guy this year, but there's gonna be competition and 514 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 5: I'm gonna bring in someone else to come in, and 515 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 5: you guys are gonna battle for the job. 516 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 8: This is a new coach, it's a new general manager. 517 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 8: It's a new era here. 518 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 5: Like everyone's got to kind of earn their job, and 519 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,640 Speaker 5: I prove it, right, Like, I think that's a fair 520 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 5: thing to say. 521 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 8: And look, I've been through it before and. 522 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 5: It's usually what you hear from guys in this situation 523 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 5: because they have no ties to you, so you have 524 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 5: to earn that equity with them and you have to 525 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 5: build that with them. And that's that's fine, that's fair. 526 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 5: But the truth is they want to have their own 527 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 5: guy at some point. So whoever they bring in, because 528 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 5: that's one of their first decisions, they're gonna have a 529 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 5: leg up. And so if you're too a you have to, 530 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 5: you know, not leave any doubt and be that much 531 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 5: better than who you're competing with if you want that 532 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 5: first first crack at it. 533 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 4: You know, Malik will Malik Willis is sitting there in 534 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 4: Green Bay with some familiarity with those guys. 535 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: I feel like if you don't, if you don't definitively 536 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: send a message to your team now and bringing in 537 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: a new GM eventually a new head coach, I believe 538 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 1: you run the risk of old rot and it can spread. 539 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: You know that rock can spread, like if you if 540 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: you have a bad apple. And I'm not saying too 541 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: is a bad apple. I'm just saying it's it's not. 542 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: I don't think it's the most advantageous situation to have 543 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: to as your starter. 544 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 6: I don't. I don't see that moving forward. 545 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: So now you have this new start, you're you got 546 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: to reboot. And unless you're bringing in a veteran coach 547 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: that will be able to navigate and handle and understand 548 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: the dynamics of a locker room and how to get 549 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: the most out of your players and manage the personalities 550 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: and keep them together. 551 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 6: I would give that head coach a fresh star. 552 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: I really would, because I don't believe Tua has been 553 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: the type of player at this point where I would 554 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: put the pressure on a new head coach and say, 555 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: like in you know, Baltimore or in Buffalo, Yeah, you 556 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: need to make it work with this guy, Like you 557 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: need to figure it out. I don't think that that's 558 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: the situation here. And if they if they're going into 559 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: it thinking that just based upon his contract, then you're 560 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: already setting this new head coach up in fact him 561 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,679 Speaker 1: as a GM, you're already setting yourselves up for what 562 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: could be a very very rough and bumpy start to 563 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: your tenure there. 564 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that could be the case, but you know, 565 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 5: any any losing is going to do that regardless, regardless 566 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 5: of your quarterback, is, regardless to anything else is So 567 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 5: I think what's interesting is Jonas you bring up Milik Willis, 568 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 5: he'll be a free agent. The problem for the Dolphins 569 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 5: is they're they're stuck in a situation where if they 570 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 5: do sign them. We just talked about the ramifications if 571 00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 5: they were to release. 572 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 8: You know, they're in. 573 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 5: A tough spot if they sign him to whatever deal 574 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 5: start a new league year, because now everyone knows you 575 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 5: got to get rid of him, So you're not getting 576 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 5: anything back in a trade. You're gonna have a huge 577 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 5: dead cap hit, regardless of if it's a post June 578 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 5: one designation. So how they go about playing this chess, 579 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 5: It's kind of significant because most likely the way Milik 580 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 5: Willis has played and because of a weak quarterback draft class, 581 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 5: he's gonna be one of the guys that I think 582 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 5: people watch Sam Darnold, and if the Seattle Seahawks win 583 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 5: and if they move on to win a Super Bowl, 584 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 5: he's gonna be one of those quarterbacks who was talked 585 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 5: of highly early on. It did work out in Tennessee, 586 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 5: and now after some season they're like, wait a second, 587 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 5: maybe maybe he's that next guy who we could bring 588 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 5: in play some really good football for us. It could 589 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 5: be our franchise guy. So it only drives up the 590 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 5: value for a guy like Malik Willis, who's got familiarity 591 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 5: with Halfley, with especially as a backup when you're going 592 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 5: against the defense all the time. But also you know 593 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 5: now the general manager, so there's some familiarity there. But 594 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 5: how they go about handling it to me, I think 595 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 5: is the more difficult part. Like I don't think it's 596 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: as easy as you think just to hey, let's sign 597 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 5: up as a free agent. 598 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 8: Now your trade value is gone. You're taking on a 599 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 8: huge dead cap hit. 600 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 5: Maybe Steven Ross is okay with that, but I don't 601 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,239 Speaker 5: know how easy that is to orchestrate. Here in the 602 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 5: next let's say two months or a little less because 603 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 5: once the start of the new league year hits, Malik 604 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 5: wils is a hot commodity in my opinion, I mean. 605 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: It certainly would be. It certainly would be a message scent. 606 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: If they said we're going to like let to a go, 607 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: we get like, oh wow, y'all going to eat that, 608 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: like we're letting him go and we're starting anew. That 609 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 1: would be a tremendously loud statement coming into this if 610 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm the GM and if I'm the new head coach 611 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: as an owner to say, listen, I'd support you this much. 612 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: If you don't feel like two is the guy and 613 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: we need to go in a different direction, I support 614 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: you that much. I'm going to give you a clean 615 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: slate to get out of the gates. That would be 616 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: a tremendously loud statement by ownership. I don't see how likely. 617 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how likely or probable or doable it 618 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: is feasible. I don't know, but I think keeping Tuoa 619 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: in the locker room, if you're trying to move forward, 620 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 1: and if he indeed doesn't end up being the guy 621 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: that you're planning on being your franchise quarterback, I almost 622 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: feel like having him there is like, I just don't 623 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's the best thing to do. 624 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 4: I Two is going to be back next year. That 625 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 4: would be my guess if I had to make a 626 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 4: guess right now. Two is going to be back next year. 627 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 4: And that's the one that would make the most sense. 628 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 4: Financial reasons, commitment reasons. And I know that there's the 629 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 4: whole locker room dynamic, but how much of that was 630 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 4: because you know, Mike McDaniel ran to loose ship, which 631 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: was a lot of the reports that came out of there. 632 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 4: And you know, who knows what happens with Tyreek Hill 633 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 4: whether or not he's back, you know, and and to 634 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 4: what extent I just think, Look, it's going to cost 635 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 4: you a fortune to move on from the guy. Create competition, 636 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 4: whether you want to bring in somebody else, whether you 637 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 4: want to have it be Quinn viewers, Uh, you know, 638 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 4: take a shot at somebody in the draft later on, 639 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 4: and you know, do something like that. Ideally for the 640 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 4: Dolphins to his back next year, plays at a higher level. 641 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: And all of this point. 642 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: Well, look, I mean, what are you going to do, like, 643 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 4: you know, take a sixty to a ninety million dollars 644 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 4: dead cap hit by by cutting him just because you 645 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: felt like he was a jerk to a teammate in 646 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 4: the locker room, like like, what are the IoT? 647 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: I think it was a jerk to the in the 648 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: locker room. It's just that it's it's I think that 649 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: project has has expired. He's just not there's the injury 650 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: concerns that should be number one on anyone's list, that 651 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: that he's one hit away from not being available, but 652 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: then there's two. It just that the new style of 653 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: play to not get hit, to not play tua like football, 654 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: where you hold it a little longer, you run, you 655 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: get up out of there, whatever, you create time. It 656 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: just it didn't look like a TUA that that could 657 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 1: get it done this season. And if I'm looking at 658 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: it that way, what are you wasting time for? You 659 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: made the investment. Sometimes you make mistakes, you make bad investments. 660 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 1: I mean you don't just keep it just because it 661 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: was a bad investment. I mean sometimes you got to 662 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: cut bait. 663 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 6: It's all right. 664 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 5: I just think it's it's tough to swallow a ninety 665 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 5: nine million dollar dead cabot, right, Like it's it's easy 666 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 5: for us to say that's not our money. You know, 667 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 5: it's it becomes a lot harder to deal with that, 668 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 5: where if you just waited that you get to a 669 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 5: much more feasible and much easier number to swallow, whether 670 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 5: that's a post you win designation in twenty twenty seven 671 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 5: or or even before that. 672 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,359 Speaker 8: So I'm with him. 673 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: The should have came out, the GM should have came 674 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 1: out and said we got to go with tool because 675 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: it's too expensive to get rid of them, and you 676 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: guys have to be prepared for us to possibly, you know, 677 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: not be good. 678 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 6: But we just. 679 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,720 Speaker 5: Say something that like is obviously putting their team now 680 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,839 Speaker 5: and Brandon Bean in a really tough spot, like they've 681 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 5: got to navigate what the heck is going to happen 682 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 5: if they I mean, I don't know how you can 683 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 5: think that, like you could keep Kean Coleman on the 684 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 5: roster when you're you know, you basically had your owner 685 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 5: talk about him like he's you know, I just you know, shot. 686 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 6: Me, hugs man. 687 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: I get it just saying hey, you got a job 688 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: and you're getting paid. I don't care if the owner 689 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: likes me or not. I'm gonn play my way into 690 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: what I need to play my way into I'm not 691 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: going to base it off of him. You don't want me, Okay, 692 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: let me prove to you why they got me. Let 693 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: me prove to you why I'm here. 694 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 8: Well, isn't that why tu Oka? Couldn't you just say 695 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 8: the same thing. 696 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 5: I mean, you're basically making a case for twists todays 697 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 5: here improved definitely could. 698 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, no, two. 699 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 4: You can get tools to perform at the highest level 700 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 4: on every job without compromise. 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Good thing, the guys are here to 728 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 11: bring you in case. 729 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 4: You missed it, and for that we turn it over 730 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 4: to our executive producer, the one and only Patrick sweeka 731 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 4: hotty speed. 732 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 8: Boy. 733 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 6: Who is it? Who is it? 734 00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 2: Who it's Yeah boy, Yeah it is your boy. 735 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,919 Speaker 9: And also apparently Americ carmon Today's time. 736 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,120 Speaker 2: Did Eric carbon. 737 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 6: We know? 738 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 2: Oh no, I mean that's how are he said? I 739 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 2: look like him? I don't but he said it. 740 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 3: You missed it, Patty. You're a way too pleasant for 741 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 3: this world. 742 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:29,239 Speaker 7: Thank you. 743 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's even a compliment at this point, 744 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 2: but I'll take it. I will take it. 745 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 9: Well, it's stop very casey mystic time, guys, and the 746 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 9: first one I got for you here. So big Ben 747 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 9: Roethlisberger is back in the news. He was actually on 748 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 9: his podcast Footballing. He was talking about rebuilding or like 749 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 9: what the Steelers should do to rebuild their organization. 750 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: Just get some pointers in there. We actually have some 751 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 2: sound where he kind of had his views on this. 752 00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 6: Listen. 753 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 14: I would not drive quarterback for at least two to 754 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 14: three years. That's just just my opinion. The issue that 755 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 14: I see with a lot of teams is they get 756 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 14: a quarterback and they try and build around that quarterback. 757 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 14: I think it should be the other way around. I 758 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 14: think you should build a team and put your quarterback 759 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 14: in it. It happened to me there was a I 760 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 14: had a great football team. They plugged me in. We 761 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 14: had a veteran group. It just it works. It works 762 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 14: better than trying to grab a quarterback and be Okay, 763 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 14: we're gonna build around this quarterba because then you're it's 764 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 14: going to take you four or five years to build 765 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 14: around that quarterback. He's probably gonna look like Pooh up 766 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 14: to it, and then you're like, is he really our guy? 767 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 7: Is he not our guy? 768 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: That's realistic. 769 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 8: Well, I like how we talked about Pooh, you know, 770 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 8: I feel like that was a nice little problem. 771 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 4: The idea that a team would get three years to 772 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 4: to just wait and draft a quarterback and build around 773 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: him nowadays just doesn't seem possible. 774 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 5: I also feel like there's varying years of like what 775 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 5: the quarterbacks look like this year Fernanda Mendoza then who 776 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 5: were talking about, you know, like there's a big drop 777 00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 5: It was a Ty Simpson out of Alabama, Like there's 778 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 5: a big drop off to like who that next guy 779 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 5: is and probably the evaluation of him in next year's 780 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,919 Speaker 5: draft in twenty twenty seven, different story. So it's also 781 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 5: like how you would time that or hit that right? 782 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 5: Like I think, if you find the guy, you have 783 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 5: to take the guy. But you're constantly trying to build 784 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 5: your roster anyway, Like aren't you trying to you know, 785 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 5: every single draft, every single year, trying to make sure 786 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 5: you're as good as you could be at every position. 787 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 3: How many quarterbacks are going in the first round, you. 788 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 7: Would think, you would hope is he the only one? 789 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 5: I would say, I would set the over under at 790 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,359 Speaker 5: one and a half and I think it'll be one 791 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 5: maybe two. 792 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 8: Wow. 793 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,280 Speaker 3: So Dante Moore going back kind. 794 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 8: Of that changed things. There's a there's a there's a 795 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:53,399 Speaker 8: number of guys. 796 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 6: You know. 797 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: What else we got Patty, I don't understand his perspective 798 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 1: that that is what he came from, that's what he 799 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,759 Speaker 1: started his career in. And I mean I would say, 800 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: if you have a really really good organization, like he 801 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: didn't add that, you got to take into consideration. He 802 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: was added to a veteran heavy team with a lot 803 00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 1: of great leadership. But it was it's a great organization too. See, 804 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: Ben didn't have to experience a poorly ran you know, organization. 805 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,439 Speaker 1: You can't take that for you can't take that light either. 806 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: So I mean, you you know, I had a ton 807 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: of great vets that I was around my rookie year. 808 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: Our organization was craped and and that talent did not 809 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 1: it did not outperform the dysfunction, you know. So there's 810 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: always a whole lot of balancing that has to be 811 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: connected to what been through out there. It's not that simple. 812 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: So you got a quarterback, take the quarterback, go ahead. 813 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 2: All right, I got one more for us. 814 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 6: So. 815 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,840 Speaker 2: Jannis was in the news recently. 816 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 9: On Wednesday, at a press conference, after getting blown out 817 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 9: by the thunder, he called out his teammates, saying, we're 818 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 9: not playing hard, we aren't doing the right thing, We're 819 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,920 Speaker 9: not playing together. 820 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 2: Chemistry is not there, and guys are being selfish. Called 821 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 2: them out. 822 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 3: Guys, Well, what does he Carry's not gonna be there 823 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 3: much longer anyways. 824 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,279 Speaker 8: Yeah, what's the deadline? February fifth? 825 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always during Super Bowl week. We always have 826 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,479 Speaker 4: to cover a trade. When we're sitting there at radio 827 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 4: road three in the morning, we don't have to. 828 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 6: But dang, who's going Who's going to give up? 829 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 4: What? 830 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 6: Who's going where? 831 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 3: Jahn Moran's probably gonna get dealt. 832 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 8: Yeah I know that. 833 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't use. 834 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 7: Apparently too bad? What is strong with you, dude? Say