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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome Mark Vandermer with you with John Harris.

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Speaker 1: It is the program that keeps you up to date

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Speaker 1: Texans topics, of cornucopia of Texans topics here on Texans

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Speaker 1: All Access from the Hunday Texans Radio Studio at NRG Stadium.

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Speaker 1: How's it going, Johnny? That is a really good word.

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Speaker 1: Corcopiad that's a little one. That's harder to say. It's

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Speaker 1: kind of an East Coast thing too. So so how

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Speaker 1: do you say the last name of the gentleman who

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Speaker 1: won the most Outstanding Player last night for Villanova? How

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Speaker 1: do you say that? Vendeven Senzo or Ncenzo. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: it depends. I'll have the fanetical pronunciation guide in front

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Speaker 1: of me, and I wasn't announcing the game, so I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I'm gonna call Kevin Coopler right now because

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Speaker 1: he called it on national radio and he calls our

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Speaker 1: preseason games on television, and I love him. He's great.

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Speaker 1: I hear him. Tis yeah, I get in the car.

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Speaker 1: We went to Galveston the week of the Elite Eight.

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Speaker 1: I think he had to do Kansas game. I think

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Speaker 1: he had all kind. He has really good games, and

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Speaker 1: he does a good job on our preseason for sure,

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Speaker 1: he does. He's a total pro. He does Big ten

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Speaker 1: Network as well, and he does NFL Sunday Night Football

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Speaker 1: and national radio and Kugler. I just think he's tremendous.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of people ask me, well, why don't

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Speaker 1: you guys do the preseason TV. It's all my fault, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I told Andre and Andrea and I don't want to separate,

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Speaker 1: first of all, and I told Andre, I will not

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Speaker 1: let go of that radio microphone. I just will not

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Speaker 1: do it. It's like somebody's sleeping in my bedroom. It's

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Not getting out of that radio both. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: I like listening to the preseason games when we get

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Speaker 1: on get on a plane, it's on NFL Game Pass

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Speaker 1: or Next Day or whatever the case might be, and

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Speaker 1: listen to are. I will never put on the opposing teams,

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Speaker 1: but I think they put on the home team's broadcast

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Speaker 1: on NFL Game Pass, and so for the home games,

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Speaker 1: he had a chance to listen to Kugler. I mean

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Speaker 1: he's I think he's fantastic. I think hein Spencer Andrew,

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Speaker 1: do you a great job on the TV. But he's

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Speaker 1: he's great, he's during the regular season. We promote. Turned

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Speaker 1: down the sound and listen to us. Just do it,

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Speaker 1: all right, A lot to go over today, all right.

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Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to do tonight is Texan's depth

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Speaker 1: chart as we see it right now without having the draft.

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Speaker 1: With that and listen this, this will be interesting if

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Speaker 1: they draft somebody who's a starter, right, that's a good question, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: Yes or no? They draft a player who will start

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Speaker 1: for them opening day? Oh, that's now start opening day? No,

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Speaker 1: but I think eventually, you know, you know, yeah, events, Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll think about it. Think about it. This this twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: What rookie started twenty seventeen, What rookie started opening day?

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Speaker 1: Shaw Watson No, Zach Cunningham No, No, Julian Davenport no,

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Speaker 1: Dylan Cole No, thank you very much. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: So I and I think this roster is even more

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Speaker 1: I don't know, more loaded at that point. But I okay,

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Speaker 1: here's a better question. Okay, if you are going to

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Speaker 1: have a rookie that does start, where is it Where

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Speaker 1: when is visit out of need or the rookie rises

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Speaker 1: up and beats everybody else out, or when I say need,

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Speaker 1: I mean people hurt, people don't play as well as

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Speaker 1: you want. It could be Could it be an offensive

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Speaker 1: lineman that they draft in the third round. I would

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Speaker 1: think not, let's go there. We're gonna start right there

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Speaker 1: on the offensive line, because if you draft the left

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Speaker 1: they do that with one of those three third round

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Speaker 1: very good possibility, but we're all presuming they do that

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Speaker 1: draft choices. Does the guys start Probably not unless he's

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Speaker 1: unbelievable and everybody else either gets hurt or is really disappointing.

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Speaker 1: Here's the way that I look at this, who at

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Speaker 1: left tackle in particular? And I went back and I

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Speaker 1: left tackle. And I've told you this off the air,

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Speaker 1: but and I've said it on the air and in

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Speaker 1: other shows. I felt like, if you're watching those five

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Speaker 1: you would not point him out. You would say Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's five guys up there point out the rookie. You

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Speaker 1: would not point him out now. He wasn't perfect, but

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Speaker 1: you're facing the ball. Sheered. I thought he did a

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Speaker 1: pretty good job on Sheared. He faced TJ. Watt thought

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Speaker 1: Whereas he gets so used to seeing Dwayne and how

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Speaker 1: easily Dwayne handled certain things. But then you realize the

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Speaker 1: sky last played against VMI, and now you see him

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Speaker 1: against the Steelers, you see him against the Colts. Here's

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Speaker 1: the question to me, and I think this is the way,

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Speaker 1: and i'd i'd be curious to ask Brian Gaine and

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Speaker 1: assessing a rookie, I would imagine there are certain things

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Speaker 1: you want to you want to look at right now.

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Speaker 1: Is he better than anybody we have in a year?

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Speaker 1: Will he be better than anybody we have in three

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Speaker 1: or four years? Is he going to be better than

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Speaker 1: anybody we could potentially have at that point now projecting

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Speaker 1: that gets a little bit tougher. But to me, Julian

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Speaker 1: Julian's better at left tackle than any of them because

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Speaker 1: obviously he knows the system, he plays left how he's

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Speaker 1: if he takes that year one to year two jump,

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Speaker 1: he's going to be the better option at left tackle

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Speaker 1: think left tackles where rookie's gonna start. I know you

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Speaker 1: coach O'Brien, but you'll be coach O'Brien. What can and

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Speaker 1: is perhaps Julian Davenport working on right now because he

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Speaker 1: can't be coached right now, But what can he work

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Speaker 1: on right now to get himself ready for this opportunity? Specifically?

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Speaker 1: I think it is there are two things that I

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Speaker 1: were some times when he would get speed, like TJ

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Speaker 1: not even sniffing the quarterback at that particular point. No, no,

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Speaker 1: I understand, but that's gonna be something over time. He

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Speaker 1: I think, how do you work on your feet as

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Speaker 1: an offensive linement on the US? I mean, do you

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Speaker 1: jump rope? Do U rope drills? How about basketball stuff?

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Speaker 1: Basketball stuff which is something that he did before kind

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Speaker 1: just keep getting comfortable with his kickstart his punch, all

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Speaker 1: don't know who he's working out with, but whoever he's

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Speaker 1: are some things he can work on, but to me,

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Speaker 1: upper body strength is a big one. But then continuing

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Speaker 1: I think Julian's got a whale and potential. I do

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Speaker 1: think drafting a left tackle or drafting a tackle in

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Speaker 1: this draft, absolutely, without question, do it. But I just

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Speaker 1: they're just the left tackles that you look at it

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Speaker 1: and say, that guy is definitively better right now, no

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Speaker 1: definitively better than Julian Davenport. Down the road, might he be, yeah, maybe,

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Speaker 1: but I don't even know that you can make that case.

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Speaker 1: You're not looking at Orlando Pace or Walter Jones or

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Speaker 1: Tony Bissell, you know, looking at those guys, you're looking

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Speaker 1: For lack of a better all of them are gonna

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Speaker 1: mark on it. Right Well, watch this one quarterback watching, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Next wide receiver, Drey Hopkins, Will Fuller, Okay, next slot receiver.

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Speaker 1: Who I mean, it's it's Ellington right now yeah. Now,

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Speaker 1: Sammy coach is not a slot receiver, right guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of battling for a fourth spot on this team.

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Speaker 1: He's a turning burn. You throw deep, that's your guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's as Miller and Ellington would be the guys right now.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Irvin, not that I don't want to, but that's

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Speaker 1: a wide receiver. You always bring him up as a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and he's listed as a running back. But

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Speaker 1: I get where you're coming from. He's versatile. Boy. He

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Speaker 1: would have come in handy in that Titans game without

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Speaker 1: anybody and for you, no question, but to me, out

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Speaker 1: of all of them, bringing back Bruce I think was huge.

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Speaker 1: Now Bruce has to stay healthy. Bruce Bruce came into

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Speaker 1: the league in twenty fourteen. He has not had a

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Speaker 1: the issue. Will Buller remember training camp? Oh my god? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he was like, who's coming in next? Right?

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Speaker 1: And you know, it kind of worked worked out. It

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Speaker 1: never really materialized. We'll see, all right. Deandrew White is

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Speaker 1: It's too bad after a couple of really nice days

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Speaker 1: chart if they played this weekend and everybody was healthy.

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Speaker 1: one guy, let's be good with three or four. And

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Speaker 1: so that's why I think they'll maybe they go to

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Speaker 1: the well and get one corner, maybe even two. Have

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Speaker 1: they done anything this offseason that changes your mind or

429
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Speaker 1: affects your opinion on where they're gonna be with return guys.

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Speaker 1: As far as kickoff punt returns, will Fuller boy, I

431
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Speaker 1: feel not so hot about that, especially after seeing Braxton

432
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Speaker 1: Miller get hurt in them what the Tennessee game returning

433
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Speaker 1: a punt. And I know you can't live your life

434
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Speaker 1: that way. I mean a lot of guys have returned

435
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Speaker 1: punts for years with getting hurt. It's just so weird.

436
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: And here's another sidebar to all this, all the kickoff

437
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Speaker 1: talk about the possibility of eliminating the kickoff. I don't

438
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Speaker 1: know where you are on this. What I find interesting

439
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Speaker 1: about kickoff collisions is with all the data you have,

440
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Speaker 1: you have to determine how many of the collisions that

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Speaker 1: cause injury are away from the ball, Because to me,

442
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,639
Speaker 1: that's a big problem. If you get hurt with the ball,

443
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Speaker 1: it's somewhat different to me then if you get hurt

444
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Speaker 1: without the ball in your hands, isn't it I just

445
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: think it is because you mean you mean the guy

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Speaker 1: on kickoff team? You know, a kickoff return teams are

447
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: set up. They'll be like five or six guys up front,

448
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Speaker 1: and then that guy when the balls kick, goes and

449
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: runs and goes and knocks out. Yeah, just knocks out.

450
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Speaker 1: I mean that's the kind of th blocker. Knock somebody

451
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Speaker 1: on their keistir as they used to say, and all

452
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Speaker 1: of a sudden he's injured. To me, when you get

453
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Speaker 1: hurt with the ball, it's like the sacrifice. I'm not

454
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Speaker 1: saying it's worth it necessarily, but you were trying to

455
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Speaker 1: make an extreme play. Now, offensive lineman get hurt all

456
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Speaker 1: the time without the ball, and I get all that.

457
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Speaker 1: Well that in a kickoff play, is it really worth

458
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Speaker 1: the excitement up with it? An air quotes of a

459
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Speaker 1: kickoff to risk the amount of injuries you're having, they

460
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Speaker 1: have to determine that based on the data they have. Yeah, exactly.

461
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Speaker 1: I mean the one thing about you, I think you're right.

462
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Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of injuries. Remember Corey

463
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Speaker 1: Moore in the Chiefs game. In the Chiefs game here

464
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Speaker 1: and the Chiefs games here on Sunday night, a Keem

465
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Speaker 1: Hunt playing for the Chiefs came from the other side

466
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Speaker 1: of the field and just cores run down and then

467
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Speaker 1: here comes a team and just never saw him and

468
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Speaker 1: just lit him up and Corey was out for the

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Speaker 1: rest of the game. Those are the kind of things

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Speaker 1: that to me, you know, I just think that there

471
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Speaker 1: are some things the NFL just when they have to

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Speaker 1: go back and look at kickoff, there's there's some things

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Speaker 1: that maybe they you know, they remember there's what two

474
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Speaker 1: three years ago, they outlawed the four guys that could

475
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Speaker 1: stand together. Okay, you can't have a wedge of four guys. Now,

476
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Speaker 1: I think you can only do two guys. Things like that.

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Speaker 1: I think that's help. They've got to continue to do

478
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Speaker 1: things like that. They looked at a strategic component and said, okay,

479
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Speaker 1: we're not going to allow that because that's where we're

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Speaker 1: seeing some guys get injured. They got to continue to

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Speaker 1: look at it. But that's one of them. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, kickoff is just a it's a violent,

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Speaker 1: dangerous play that said, as far as a as far

484
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Speaker 1: as the return guy, and to that, to that point,

485
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Speaker 1: I think kickoffs get kind of creative. Maybe we've seen Belichick,

486
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Speaker 1: he sit on the sidelines that night at Thursday night,

487
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Speaker 1: He's no, no, force them to run it back, kick

488
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Speaker 1: it in the corner, out of the end zone, not

489
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Speaker 1: in the end zone, but outside of the end zone,

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Speaker 1: in the field of play and make them so the

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Speaker 1: kickoff returner is more important than I thought it was

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Speaker 1: going to be a couple of years ago with that rule.

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Speaker 1: But to me, the punt returner you mentioned it Will,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable with Will back there. I just

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Speaker 1: I just don't like it. Well, you just don't like

496
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Speaker 1: risking his great playmaking ability to get you next for

497
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Speaker 1: ten yards because I know he's gonna pop on every

498
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Speaker 1: once in a while, and maybe the average would be

499
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Speaker 1: better than another return man. And the way they're punting it,

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Speaker 1: by the way, I mean, how many of these get

501
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Speaker 1: returned anyway? So do I really want to risk Fuller

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Speaker 1: for that when I could have Fuller available at offense

503
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Speaker 1: to do all sorts of beautiful things with Deshaun Watson.

504
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Speaker 1: So in house, Bruce Braxton, Yeah, Tyler everyone healthy either through.

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Speaker 1: I've said all along. I think Tyler ends up being

506
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Speaker 1: is is a big time hit the Jews return guy.

507
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Speaker 1: But last year against the Titans, that's he ended up

508
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Speaker 1: getting hurt on a I think it was no, it

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Speaker 1: was not a return, it was a it was on

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Speaker 1: a kickoff he or a kickoff or punt he was

511
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Speaker 1: on covering. He ended up getting hurt on on coverage coverage,

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Speaker 1: not on the return. But I still think Tyler that's

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Speaker 1: a job that Tyler could make his own. I've always

514
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Speaker 1: felt that way. I just you know, rookie year, I

515
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Speaker 1: think he kind of got over some some hills and

516
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Speaker 1: some valleys and kind of worked his way through it.

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Speaker 1: I think he was on the way on his way

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Speaker 1: to doing that last year, kind of making it year

519
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Speaker 1: one of year two, and then end up getting hurt

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Speaker 1: in the Tennessee game and Will had to go in.

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Speaker 1: But to me, that's that's um. I think that's something

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Speaker 1: that they'll look at it in this draft, whether it's hey,

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Speaker 1: guy plays corner, but he can also return punts or kicks,

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Speaker 1: Hey throwing back. Get him into the competition, you know that.

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Speaker 1: I do think of all the places where you could

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Speaker 1: have a rookie, I think that's one place where you

527
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Speaker 1: could have one. In part return, here's the blocking, here's

528
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Speaker 1: what you're gonna do. Brad Celia and Tracy Smith will

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Speaker 1: set it up, and the rookie just goes on instinct

530
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Speaker 1: at that point, doesn't know any better. So I do

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Speaker 1: think that could be a spot where a rookie ends

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Speaker 1: up returning. All right, So that's here Texans depth chart.

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Speaker 1: If you missed anything tough. Actually, it'll be on the

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Speaker 1: podcast on Texans Radio dot com Houston Texans dot com.

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00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: We'll have it up there for you a little bit

536
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Speaker 1: later on. Now, let's do this just a few minutes

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Speaker 1: left here, Johnny in this segment, and then we'll get

538
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: Dbcitu in here. But I don't believe you when you

539
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: say that you're definitely done coaching for good, because if

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Speaker 1: Dave Shula can come back and coach again, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. He's been up since ninety six, twenty

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Speaker 1: two years after the Bengals fire him. And I know Dave.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Dave, but I've met him a few

544
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 1: tures in South Florida. He runs Shula Steakhouse. He did

545
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Speaker 1: the whole show. I don't know if they've sold. I

546
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with that business, but they're nice, yea.

547
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: And Dave Shula was the guy in charge of the

548
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,199
Speaker 1: Shula Steakhouse enterprise, if you will, And they've expanded all

549
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Speaker 1: there's one here, they've expanded all over the country. But

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Speaker 1: now he's at Dartmouth as wide receivers coach. He's at

551
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Speaker 1: his alma mater as wide receivers coach. Wow, and it's

552
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,479
Speaker 1: like it feels like a retirement job for him, but

553
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,159
Speaker 1: he's passionate, wants to get back involved. Well what is

554
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: he Uh, it was in the early it was late seventies,

555
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: early eighties. I believe he was at Dartmouth, so we're

556
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: talking about fifties eight But maybe he just wants to

557
00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: simplify life. Living in Hannover, New Hampshire. It's in the woods.

558
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Speaker 1: I know you've been up there. Yeah, I've been up there.

559
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Speaker 1: And the one time I was up there, it was

560
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 1: the coldest game I ever played. In nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 1: November of nineteen ninety three and Hannover in New Hampshire,

562
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Speaker 1: and the quarterback we played against was Jay Fiedler. No, yes,

563
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Speaker 1: Jay Fiedler was my class. Jay Fiedler went to Dartmouth

564
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Speaker 1: and was a good He was pretty good for the Dolphins.

565
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Speaker 1: He wasn't damn. He should have gone somewhere big, but

566
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Speaker 1: he hurt his knee as a senior in high school.

567
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Speaker 1: And because he did that team's kind of scattered in

568
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: one other places, and it's a little bit different than

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Speaker 1: now where he might have been committed or even signed early,

570
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Speaker 1: and then he had him getting hurt. He might have

571
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Speaker 1: he might have won the last playoff game of the Dolphins.

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00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think that over Time three

573
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: against the Cults, I believe was the last playoff. I

574
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,679
Speaker 1: had one of my best games against him as a

575
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Speaker 1: freshman against him, Yeah, against Jay Fieler. And so he

576
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: was he was now that day as as a senior.

577
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 1: I mean I was in the locker room. I mean, look,

578
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: I'm from Texas. I was looking for every long underwear.

579
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: Now this was before under armour, right, so this was like,

580
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: just get out the food loom long underwear. How many

581
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:43,479
Speaker 1: of them can I get on? How many of them

582
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: fit on? Any of my shoulder pads? Can I tape

583
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: up my ear holes? I was absolutely miserable handwarmers. It

584
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: was Oh. I went down on a kickoff and made

585
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: a tackle and when I hit the guy, I felt

586
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: like I was gonna break in half. I felt brittle.

587
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 1: It was awful. Get on the bus to go home,

588
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: and right when I got on the bus, it starts

589
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: snowing and we haven't left yet and it's coming down,

590
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: and so we got to drive from Hannah, New Hampshire

591
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: on these two lane roads all the way back to

592
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: Providence and I'm scared for my life. Was he done already?

593
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 1: He was coaching that team, he was our he was

594
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Speaker 1: one of our graduates. To bring this up with him, Yeah,

595
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Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll remember that because it was

596
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: not a memorable day. Well, that's for sure. And the

597
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: cold weather, I mean, yeah, it doesn't affect him anymore. Yeah, yeah,

598
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: he's not. He probably wasn't phazed by it. He probably

599
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 1: was in short sleeves. I wouldn't put it past him.

600
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: But me, I was wrapped up, and a few of

601
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: my friends from Texas were the same way. We were

602
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: like huddling in the corner, going all right, how much

603
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: stuff you got? You got enough stuff? Go see our

604
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,480
Speaker 1: our equipment guy, go see go see raids. He can

605
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: get you off because we were hurting. It was bad. Well,

606
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: we have to do a show on other jobs coaches

607
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: can have. Because if Dave Shula can run a steakhouse

608
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: for twenty two years a steakhouse chain, I wonder what

609
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: O'Brien could do. Now we're not gonna talk about that today,

610
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Speaker 1: Johnny THEXS A lot. You gotta Mark Deep coming up.

611
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: Let's talk about what your Houston Texans are up to

612
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: out and about it's Texans All Access. As we move

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Speaker 1: along on the program here from inside n RG Stadium,

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Speaker 1: the Junday Texans Radio Studio, Mark Vandermer with you, joined

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Speaker 1: now by Deep CiU with Deep CID. What's going on?

616
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Speaker 1: Deep with me? And on the air with you yet

617
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: Yes again again I'm here with the first time in

618
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Speaker 1: a lot. You and I haven't been on the air

619
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Speaker 1: together for a while now. I feel like I'm usually

620
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: on with Johnny and you just never invite me. Maybe

621
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: maybe maybe you need to invite me, I think so.

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00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: I think so. I don't know, or maybe Johnny's hogging

623
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Speaker 1: all the guest host airtime during nights when I do

624
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: the show because we kind of alternate. Anyway, you got

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Speaker 1: a pretty busy week. You get McClean on Thursday, so

626
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: you know that's very important. Yeah, he's very important. It's true. Okay,

627
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: So yeah, you do a good John McClean impression. I

628
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Speaker 1: think you know. It's funny because offseason we have, of

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Speaker 1: course the Super Bowl. Unless you're in it. It's an

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Speaker 1: offseason event for thirty NFL teams, and then you have

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Speaker 1: the combine, you have free agency, the owners meetings, and

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Speaker 1: then the players get back. So what's the deal with

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00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: this now? Because I think we have some dates final,

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00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,239
Speaker 1: We finally have some dates. The NFL released all their

635
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Speaker 1: dates now. Of course they're subject to change. The clubs

636
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: are allowed to change their dates, but for the most part,

637
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: players will return April sixteenth here at Energy Stadium. A

638
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: lot of teams start their offseason workout program next Monday

639
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: the ninth, and that's for teams with new head coaches,

640
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: so the new head coaches get a little bit of

641
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: a jump start right on the offseason workouts. Bill o'bran

642
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: obviously there's gonna be his fifth OTAs and offseason workouts.

643
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: So we're going to start on April sixteenth, and that'll

644
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: be the first day players report back to the building.

645
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 1: We see a few of them around the building anyway

646
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: because they were rehabbing, so I don't think many of

647
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: them have strayed too far. But they'll be officially back

648
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: on April sixteenth, and then it'll be three phases of

649
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: the off season workout. I feel like we talk about

650
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: this every year, but just to refresh your memory well,

651
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: because people always need to know what OTA's stands for

652
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: and they want to know what the schedule is. So

653
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: it's fine organized team activities that so ots actually don't

654
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: start till me twenty first. That's when Phase three begins

655
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: and you get nine different workouts, get actual team stuff,

656
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: you get you get some team stuff. You have ten days,

657
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: actually have ten days of total OTA activity, no live contact,

658
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: but you can do seven on seven and nine on

659
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: seven and some eleven on eleven drills are permitted. So

660
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: that's I guess the fun stuff. Although what does everybody

661
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: call it a quarterback passing camp? A lot of teams

662
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: used to call it quarterback school. It's not like what

663
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien calls the combine, which is the pajama Olympics

664
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: or a lot of guys underwear Olympics. Yes, the underwear Olympics. Yeah,

665
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: I think that's it. But in OTAs you have no

666
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: pads really, so you can't hit, but you do get

667
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 1: a sense of what's going on with the passing game,

668
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: which is good. I think the old lineman in this

669
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: old line chemistry, they they they'll get to learn the

670
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: choreography of things. But Bill O'Brien acknowledged last week that

671
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a challenge for them to develop chemistry

672
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: the way they need to in a physical sense during

673
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: this OTA session. But at least they'll get to know

674
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 1: each other, work together a little bit in whatever way

675
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: they can, and then they get to the Greenbrier, put

676
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: the pads on and go from there. I think Phase

677
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: one's really important for a lot of these free agents

678
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: to sort of get in the building and just just

679
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: even to know where the meeting rooms are, what the

680
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: workout rooms are, to get to know each other. You know,

681
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: a few of them are back in the city, but

682
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: a lot of them, you know, a lot of guys

683
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: just travel in the off season. But that being said,

684
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: this is all voluntary. It's all voluntary, voluntary. You don't

685
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: have to be here, but generally everybody shows up. The

686
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: only mandatory part is the mandatory mini camp that'll be

687
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: June twelveth through the fourteenth. That's the only mandatory part

688
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: of the off season workout program. So if you're a vet,

689
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean the vets show up. Also, very rarely do

690
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: you have like what's called it's not really a holdout.

691
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: It's just a no show for these kinds of things.

692
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: You know, very often it's just they don't want to

693
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: be here for whatever reason. Maybe sometimes it is a holdout.

694
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: I know we had that situation occur last year. They

695
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: didn't technically call it a holdout with Dwayne Brown. But

696
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: guys are here because they look they want to be together.

697
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: They know it's important to be together to gel for

698
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: the season. And after a while, aren't you just tired

699
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: of like not coming in. I mean, what do the

700
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 1: retired players say that they missed the most when they're

701
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: away from the camaraderie, the camaraderie being in the locker room,

702
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: being around the guys, joking around in the meeting rooms.

703
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is these guys are

704
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: working out anyway on their own, so it probably gets

705
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: boring working out on your own day after day. You'd

706
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: rather be here working out with other guys. You get

707
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: to throw the ball around, you get you know, for

708
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: the offensive guys, at least the skill set position guys,

709
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: they can't really do that here right now, right so

710
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: that'll be their opportunity to do that. And if you

711
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: have some really important life event, like your brother is

712
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: getting married or something like that. Maybe they'd let you

713
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: skip it day or whatever. They'll have to let you.

714
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 1: He would probably know that that's not a good time

715
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: to schedule a wedding. I would think a close Well yeah,

716
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: but sometimes there's no way to avoid it. You know.

717
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: My brother actually moved his wedding date for me. He did,

718
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,120
Speaker 1: oh yeah, because I had. It was in September and

719
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: I was at on from Michigan at the time, and

720
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: I said, well, look, I got a game and I'm

721
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: not missing the game. So you said that, Oh yeah,

722
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: you brother. He's like, what are you talking about? Just

723
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: get somebody else to do it, Like, you don't understand.

724
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm not missing a game. You know, I'll miss a

725
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: game if my child is born or a loved one die.

726
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: So unless you're planning on dying, or you yourself are

727
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: getting married, or I myself am dying, so there are

728
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: those are the only reasons why I would miss a game,

729
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: or if I'm that sick. You know. I was ill

730
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: over the weekend right and one of my friends asked me,

731
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: would you have done the game? For sure? You was

732
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: Easter Sunday? I was. I was pretty bad, Okay, I

733
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: was pretty bad. But I would have done that. You

734
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: would have done the game. I'm not saying it would

735
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: have been good. I once did a game at food

736
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: poisoning at Saint Bonaventure. I did a basketball game when

737
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 1: I was at UMass with food poisoning, and it was

738
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: not very good, but I did it. I got on

739
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: the air and I did it. Now, at some point,

740
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: you're hurting the team. I'll put that in air quotes,

741
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: hurting the team by being on the air. But I

742
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: don't care. I gotta do the You don't care about

743
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: the team. What's the sickest you've ever been with the

744
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: te like doing a game. There have been a couple

745
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: of times that I've been pretty bad, but not bad

746
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: enough to miss obviously, so never like, excuse me, I

747
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: have to go to pray to the porcelain God. That's

748
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 1: never happening like bad flu or anything like that. But

749
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: I felt, you know, you're sick or whatever and you

750
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: just grind through it. I've been sick going on the

751
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 1: road and you know, in the plane, like just get

752
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: me to the hotel and just get through it. Next day, though,

753
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, the adrenaline of doing a game does carry

754
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: me through a lot of things. I mean, I don't know,

755
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: it's there's something about it, there's something magical that's true.

756
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: Last year, actually I had strupped throat in Seattle. I

757
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: didn't know I had strepped throat. I just felt really miserable.

758
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: Strep Ryan the lesser known movie Romantic comedy. But yeah,

759
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: you're right, you get through the day. I remember feeling

760
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: like it was really cold in that press box and

761
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: the Starbucks just wasn't doing it for me. There was

762
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: a barista, so it was a really nice there was

763
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: a barista in the Seattle press box. There was, and

764
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: I couldn't take full advantage of that because I was

765
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: too sick to walk over there. But I just thought

766
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: it was just really cold. I'll just sit here with

767
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: my code on, and then late I went to the

768
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: doctor two days later headstrip throat. Oh my gosh. Yeah.

769
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: You know, when the AC or whatever draft has affected

770
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: you that much, you're probably not going anyway. Enough about that,

771
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,439
Speaker 1: So tell me something. You do a weekly thing called

772
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 1: Likes and Stuff video, and it's on Texans three sixty,

773
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: it's on all our media platforms, social and otherwise. And

774
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: also you do this weekly column now called The Week

775
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 1: slant as opposed to the deep slant because it's all

776
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: the stuff that goes out during the week, right, Yeah,

777
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: that's a lot of fun. Actually, I need to get

778
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: back into it some more because now is really the

779
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: best time to do these sort of columns because everybody's

780
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: on social media. You know, the football stories sort of

781
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: taper off, but the other stuff is in full swing.

782
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: And you know, we've got some really great players that

783
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: are very active on social media, Tyron Matthews, very active

784
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: to Sean JJ obviously, and I feel like this this

785
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: younger group of players is always on social media. So

786
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun to write about just sort of

787
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: the off the beaten track lifestyle sort of stuff that's

788
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: happens in the building. Sometimes I'll throw some football things

789
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: in there too, but I like to sort of editorialize,

790
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't think Bill O'Brien would enjoy

791
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: my editorializing on the actual game. Oh, on the game now.

792
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: So yeah, so in the offseason I like to do

793
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: that and it's sort of like a fun column. But

794
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: it's called a week slant. We had a different name

795
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: for it, yeah, we did. We changed it because I

796
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 1: really wanted to know Mark Mark wanted a different name,

797
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: so that was changed. So it's okay. Beside the point, Well,

798
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: did I or did I not do this democratically? You did.

799
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: I did not make an executive decision. At first you did,

800
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: and then everybody disagreed with it. I actually abstained from

801
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: the vote, and then in our our weekly meeting, you

802
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: put it to a vote. Yeah, it was either in

803
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: the week slant or Scene and Heard, which we had

804
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: been using for like a week or so. I used

805
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: it for a few weeks. Yes, h r D Scene

806
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: and Heard or week Slant, which is a play on

807
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: deep Slant. But I thought it sounded anyway. Everybody liked

808
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: it better, so we went with it. Actually, Drew Dorty

809
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: came up with it, and Drew Dorty I actually came

810
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: up with dear Drew, and he came up with week slant.

811
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: So sometimes we come up with great ideas for each other.

812
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 1: Guys help each other out, to help each other out,

813
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: and last week the most read stories on Houston Texans

814
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: dot com. I have this because we were talking about

815
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: various things at the owner's meetings, like how Tyron Matthew

816
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: would fit in, but really the health of Watson and

817
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: Watt are the biggest stories. Whenever you get an availability

818
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: with the coach or the general manager, the media is

819
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: going to ask that first. And those questions were asked

820
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: of Bill O'Brien. Yeah. And I feel like we've talked

821
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: about Deshaun Watson's health this entire offseason. I feel like

822
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: everybody should be on the same page. But yet any

823
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: time even another nugget of information comes out, people are

824
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: so invested and so interested. You can see why. Obviously,

825
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: when I'm out and about, I'm sure you get the

826
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: same thing. The first thing people ask me is Deshaun

827
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: Watson going to be healthy? How's he doing? Yeah? And

828
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: the second one is is JJ Watt going to be

829
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 1: back for the twenty eighteen season? Those are the two

830
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: most common questions. People are Whitney if there was if

831
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: JJ was healthy or Deshaun was all the I'm sure

832
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Whitney would be right up there. Well, I think with Whitney,

833
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: people just assume it's gonna be fine. It's a peck,

834
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, at a heel, It'll be okay,

835
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 1: it's and it's you know, peck can be I guess

836
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: it is always, isn't it always? A season ending injury.

837
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: If if you I believe there, I mean, that's a

838
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: major Yeah, you know, that's a major muscle group that

839
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: you need for a lot of things you need. You

840
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: need time, I think, and if heals, it's not like

841
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, you're you're putting a lot of weight on

842
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: it or so. I don't know how to define it medically,

843
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 1: but nobody seems concerned about Whiting or Deontay Foreman. Johnny

844
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: and I were talking about players offensive players were excited

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Speaker 1: to see back on the field that are not number four,

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Speaker 1: number ten, And I said, Deontay Foreman, is that I

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00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: can't wait to see back on the field people. It's

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00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: like we had so many injuries last year that you

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00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: know you have to almost prioritize when you want to

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Speaker 1: see back. But it's gonna be a brand new team.

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Speaker 1: I feel like by the end of last season, we

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00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: had so many numbers that were in use. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: even tell you who was what number. We had so

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Speaker 1: many different players coming in and out of the building

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Speaker 1: different I mean, we had some numbers used three times

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Speaker 1: during the season. When you're seventy eight players, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: have that. Because the NFL limits what kind of numbers

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Speaker 1: you can use obviously buy position group and it's a

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Speaker 1: great point. The other thing is during training camp, you

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Speaker 1: know OTAs to a lesser degree, but during camp I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be sweating it out every day just hoping

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Speaker 1: guys get through the day healthy because that's yes, you know,

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Speaker 1: you want them to improve and practice obviously, dub, but

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Speaker 1: what I want to see is get to the starting

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Speaker 1: line with a healthy fifty three, the one you want,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's not going to happen

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Speaker 1: because invariably guys get hurt, but wow, I mean, after

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Speaker 1: everything this team's been through, they deserve some good luck.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm excited about Deshaun Watson and OTAs.

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien did say that at the owner's meeting you

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Speaker 1: were there, stuff He'll do some stuff. I don't care

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Speaker 1: what that stuff is, but I think everyone's going to

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00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 1: be excited to see Deshaun Watson on the field with

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Speaker 1: this teammates with a ball in his hand. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter what what you want to call OTAs, but people

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Speaker 1: are gonna be really excited to see that. And that

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Speaker 1: first video of the highlight from practice, oh of him

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Speaker 1: throwing a football, children singing and angels weeping, and oh

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Speaker 1: my gosh, Texans fans so happy. It is so exciting

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00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: cause you see what the Astros are doing, you see

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00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: what the Rockets are doing, and the Texans are right

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00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: there in the mix and definitely want to be a

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00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: part of that too. And Deshaun Watson being healthy, JJ

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00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: being healthy. Hopefully no hurricanes this year because last year

885
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: was just the whole season was off tours, devastating in

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Speaker 1: every possible way. Yeah, Deep, thanks a lot, Thanks Mark

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Speaker 1: that is going to do it for the show tonight,

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Speaker 1: Thank you John Harris, thank you Deep. Gallant at Night

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Speaker 1: is coming up next. To have a great evening and

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Speaker 1: go Texans.