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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is in Greg's stable of boys.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Round the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Henders, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room build with some heroes, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What up? Boys? Hey? Dan? I thought you just forgot

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Speaker 1: someone else entirely, and then I didn't. But usually if

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Speaker 1: it's all four of us, it's a room filled with

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Speaker 1: some heroes. But the room is filled and and the

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Speaker 1: man sitting to West's left is a hero. He is

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Speaker 1: the great, the iconic, Dave, Damna Shack, the inimitable. I

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Speaker 1: don't need that introduction. What's up the Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Round the NFL? What the poop fellows? You guys

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Speaker 1: are still doing? This still happens. I'm happy for That's awesome.

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Speaker 1: David's right and hide doing a media tour around the

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Speaker 1: whole country. After the wild success of Football Baby, this

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Speaker 1: be a cute little thing to see which direction ten

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Speaker 1: to one side of the other. There in lies the

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Speaker 1: premise of football Baby. But then he went four and

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Speaker 1: oh he went four. If you haven't, if you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it, check it out Google, Dave. I'm curious if

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Speaker 1: you're how old ten weeks, ten weeks, because we have

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Speaker 1: children very close together in age. As a noted media personality,

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Speaker 1: where does it sit within deep within you if football

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Speaker 1: Baby becomes more famous than you in the next couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks or months. Well, I mean, we've already started

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Speaker 1: to confront that difficult subject, you know, and I ultimately

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Speaker 1: got pretty dark. I sat in my home, you know,

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Speaker 1: think better for the recognition that, hey, football babies where

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Speaker 1: it's it's savvy because you know, good looking man in

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Speaker 1: their forties, I just really real quick. I got a

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Speaker 1: mysterious package from England the Royal mail step was how

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Speaker 1: I do where it was from? No note? But it

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Speaker 1: was John hamm who we had a casting associate. Associates

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Speaker 1: say that I would play John Ham if we casted. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was my wife, but that's beside the point. But

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Speaker 1: whoever said that John Ham? Whoever said that John ham head?

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Speaker 1: And that's what it looks like. That's what John Ham

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Speaker 1: pretty creepy. And I can wear it actually on Halloween

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Speaker 1: this is our Wednesday show. We get excited about it. Greg,

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Speaker 1: you didn't have any comments about the John Ham head.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Guys? Really excited? Could anyone guess why?

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Speaker 1: Kind of stuff? Because you've got got all your favorite

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Speaker 1: to see the event Jurors Part two, three and four.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go through Greg's midseason report that is up

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Speaker 1: he has absolutely no clue what to do with an

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Speaker 1: entire half of the football, which is offense, which is

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Speaker 1: probably the more important half. When you get down to

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Speaker 1: it matter, I mean that should matter something that he

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Speaker 1: has nothing to do with it and no clue what

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Speaker 1: to do. And the tweet that I sent out that

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Speaker 1: referring to Dave, I got a lot of feedback from

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Speaker 1: people saying, you know, boo hoo for Rex, and my

433
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Speaker 1: feeling on is I actually do think Rex needs to

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Speaker 1: go as well. But I don't think it's fair because

435
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Speaker 1: Rex has had plenty of time now to build this

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Speaker 1: organization on some level, he's been here six years. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's unfair REXI it's fired, and is it

438
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Speaker 1: gets to hang around because you know Smith said the

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Speaker 1: franchise back two years clean, it's a major miss. Sheldon

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Speaker 1: Richardson is the only thing he ever got right, and

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Speaker 1: you know that doesn't get you too excited. I think

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Speaker 1: he botched the Darrell Reevas situation twice, So in my mind,

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Speaker 1: I think it's it's gotta go, But it all depends

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Speaker 1: on what would he wants to do. From a patient standpoint.

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Speaker 1: I would like to say this though, Rosenthal, the idea

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Speaker 1: that the coach I I in my brain, I've always

447
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Speaker 1: thought that guy is clearly not engaged at all. On

448
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Speaker 1: the other side, of the ball. Jason Garrett, I don't

449
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Speaker 1: think has a lot to do with defensive schemes though

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Speaker 1: in Dallas, John Fox, I'm sure is not a part

451
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Speaker 1: of UH. Of Gayson Peyton's sessions and so on. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Sean payton is is down there and

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Speaker 1: in that I think involved. But you're right, that's a

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Speaker 1: fair point that most offensive guys aren't too. But Rex

455
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Speaker 1: really seems like he's totally hands out and he hasn't

456
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Speaker 1: done good hiring. Then it's your job to hire the

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Speaker 1: right people. And he's hired Tony Sperrano and Brian Schottenheimer

458
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Speaker 1: and Marty morning Way. He the Jets will fire him

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Speaker 1: and will turn someone else's team around. The Buccaneers of

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Speaker 1: cut loose Mark Baron, their first round pick, the number

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Speaker 1: seven overall pick in the Trap Draft, was traded at

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Speaker 1: the deadline on Tuesday to the St. Louis Rams and

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Speaker 1: exchange for a fourth and sixth round pick. According to

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Speaker 1: rap Sheet, UH, what would you guys take away from

465
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Speaker 1: the Mark Baron era in Tampa Bay? He was drafted

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Speaker 1: to be a hard hitting guy who had forced turnovers,

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Speaker 1: and he never forced turnovers. In Tampa Bay. He was

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Speaker 1: not a playmaker, and that's exactly what he was built

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Speaker 1: to be, which is why he was taking in the

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Speaker 1: top ten picks of the draft. People who are smarter

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Speaker 1: than me have said he's a better fit for the

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Speaker 1: Rams scheme. M hm. He's not a bad player. He

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Speaker 1: just it's like, oh, he was a top ten pick.

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Speaker 1: I mean sometimes you'll get safety is like at that

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Speaker 1: our fourth round picks that are good at kind of

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Speaker 1: stopping the run. He's not that really that good in

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Speaker 1: pass coverage. He's just one of those like, huh what.

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Speaker 1: And they also took him one pick before Luke Keickley,

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Speaker 1: and that was at a time when people thought they

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Speaker 1: were maybe gonna take Keikle. They could have had Luke

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Speaker 1: Kickley and Lavonte David had have been cool. Here's what's fascinating. Uh.

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Speaker 1: First of all, dig up our pals, Daniel Jeremiah and

483
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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and all the other scouts, dig up their

484
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Speaker 1: cold case files on Mark bar and he was about

485
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Speaker 1: his uh guaranteed to be a big time NFL players

486
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Speaker 1: in that draft. But the other factor, that's it's the

487
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Speaker 1: same thing we saw with the USC about eight years ago.

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Speaker 1: Guys that emerge from the dominant college program. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to figure out how big a factor they were and

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Speaker 1: when they were surrounded by other blue chip guys Matt

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Speaker 1: Leiner a fact, and so on. A lot of Bama

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Speaker 1: guys some have turned out to be great, but a

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Speaker 1: lot of others have been complete busts Brett Richardson to

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Speaker 1: begin with, Yeah, that's almost all of them. It feels

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Speaker 1: like a couple have been okay, but we Ingram's turned

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Speaker 1: it around a little bit. I mean, until then, you

497
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Speaker 1: had two guys in a row who were just at

498
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Speaker 1: last Sunday night was a showcase for Alabama backs yards

499
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Speaker 1: from scrimmage to me, this is this move though was

500
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Speaker 1: also love e Smith and and Jason liked their GM

501
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Speaker 1: just being like, hey, all those guys that Shiano and

502
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Speaker 1: Dominic took, they stink. We're gonna try to get rid

503
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Speaker 1: of him, like Vincent Jackson or Doug Martin or Barons,

504
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Speaker 1: Like we didn't choose those guys. Let's just let's just

505
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Speaker 1: dump and we want it to be clear what we

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Speaker 1: think of them. Because Anthony Collins and Michael Johnson are

507
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Speaker 1: working out so well. What um what number pick was?

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Speaker 1: Mark again? Number seven? The number seven pick in the

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Speaker 1: nineteen nine draft. Who is that pop quiz? How would

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Speaker 1: I know? Michael Bailey? Oh nice trans Wow, that's gonna

511
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Speaker 1: just look who just sits back and get his praise.

512
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Speaker 1: Victory screamed, I have a God complex. Let me tell

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Speaker 1: you something. I am God. Champ Bailey is rich hiring

514
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Speaker 1: after fifteen seasons in the NFL. Champ who he came

515
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Speaker 1: up with the Redskins, was a stud there, went to

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Speaker 1: the Broncos, was a stud there. Uh, didn't work out

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Speaker 1: with the Saints, got cut in the summer, didn't catch

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Speaker 1: on with another team. So the twelve time Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: selection hangs him up two seven starts a first ballot

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, Right, no doubt. We don't know what

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Speaker 1: the first ballot Hall of Famer is, but you would

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Speaker 1: have to think he ends up there eventually. I thought

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Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison was the first ballot Hall of Famer. So

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Speaker 1: wonder what went on there? Yeah, wasn't it cool that

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Speaker 1: he retired on the trade deadline day because he was

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Speaker 1: involved in then he could have been moved. He was

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Speaker 1: involved in one of the few challenge trades that we

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Speaker 1: ever see him in. Clinton poris one of the biggest

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Speaker 1: and really best trades of the last what decade? Here

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Speaker 1: two both worked out pretty well for both teams of

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Speaker 1: the Denver I think would never happen today. I wish

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Speaker 1: it would. That That is the one thing pro foot

533
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Speaker 1: ball lacks versus all the other big time sports. I'll

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Speaker 1: say two things. One, kudos to Champ's parents. It's not

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Speaker 1: his given name, but at an early age he was

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Speaker 1: Champ and his brother is Boss, and they both wind

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Speaker 1: up playing pro football. But imagine if they didn't. It's

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Speaker 1: the same thing I always say about Merlin Olsen's parents.

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Speaker 1: That infant emerges and they decide, let's name him after

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Speaker 1: a fictional medieval wizard. What if he ends up being

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Speaker 1: a janitor? Hey, Merlin, all three is clocked. You mind

542
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: getting the work in your magic on that one? Their friend?

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Speaker 1: Hey Champ, clean up on Nisle seven. You know that

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Speaker 1: it becomes a sarcastic um. And the other thing is

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Speaker 1: with with that though, the first ballot Hall of Fame

546
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Speaker 1: thing I always think about is again, it goes back

547
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Speaker 1: to this. The voters of who goes into the Hall

548
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Speaker 1: of Fame really do make this vote up on Mount pious.

549
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Speaker 1: What they're doing, like, oh no, he's a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: You understand he's not a first ballot hall is in

551
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame or not? What do you mean?

552
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: What is your measurement that you're doing. He's and within

553
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Speaker 1: and the guys who get in on the first ballot

554
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Speaker 1: hold themselves up on a higher plane than anybody who

555
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Speaker 1: just gets a gold jacket. But the voters doing that

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Speaker 1: move of I'll vote for him, don't. Don't worry about that.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not going to give him my first the

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Speaker 1: first vote. I don't want him getting a big head

559
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Speaker 1: y under they are charged with that responsibility. I think

560
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Speaker 1: that I think you will, though just to predict he will,

561
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: because they love the they love the long tail. Twelve

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Speaker 1: thirteen time pro bowlers, which I'd prefer the guys that

563
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Speaker 1: were really dominant for five seven years Jim Bailey. Really

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Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't quite that guy. He was three first

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Speaker 1: time All pros. I mean he was. He was terrific.

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Speaker 1: He's a no no brainer, but he wasn't like Derrel

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Speaker 1: Reeves was in his peak. By the way, champ, if

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Speaker 1: someone calls your champ, it's one of the more condescending things.

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Speaker 1: One that I hate is one of people call me

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Speaker 1: big guy. It's like basically, hey, Fatty, that's the way

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Speaker 1: I think. So, you know, don't always want like waiters

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Speaker 1: and mechanics. I always wanted how big guys that could about.

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Speaker 1: I take it personally, especially playing basketball, it's the usual thing, like, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's different. It's like it's like a nineteen year old

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Speaker 1: waiter or something. Yeah, it's like, what do you need

576
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Speaker 1: a big guy? It's like the chief sports ace goose. Well,

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Speaker 1: I've got a son on the way here, and I'm

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Speaker 1: really trying to think a name. I got nothing and

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Speaker 1: I need something pretty good. This is my Ballywick. Please

580
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Speaker 1: come to me, B j Upton. Do you know what

581
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Speaker 1: that stands for? Tell me boss Man Jr. That's the

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Speaker 1: coolest name ever. BJ And Justin I know I want

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Speaker 1: to be Boss Mayon Junr. Justin is a far superior

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Speaker 1: player though, so maybe it should be Justin Rosenthal. No,

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Speaker 1: it's like that, all right, So that's it. That's what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Let it, let's now move. It is the mid season

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Speaker 1: point of the season, right, it's hard to figure this out. Well,

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Speaker 1: as we're taping, I think it would be the perfect

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Speaker 1: that is exactly mid season. There's the eight weeks and

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Speaker 1: we're halfway to week nine. On NFL dot com, we

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Speaker 1: have our two thousand fourteen NFL Midseason Report and there

592
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Speaker 1: are all sorts of content from us and others on

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Speaker 1: on dot com and NFL Now. And Dave, you doing

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Speaker 1: anything mid season? E awkward? How well I cast my

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Speaker 1: vote for the uh, you know whatever the the rest

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Speaker 1: of the year. Yeah, we weren't even involved. Were he's been.

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Speaker 1: We've been getting Ali downstairs, been sending us emails like

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Speaker 1: please guys, we need this. Yeah, I'm gonna do as

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Speaker 1: soon as we get downstairs anyway, So you can see

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Speaker 1: Dave's picks though for the Super Bowl alongside Michael Silver.

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Speaker 1: What Bucky Brooks and I did was because it's the

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Speaker 1: week when the college football final four gets unveiled for

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Speaker 1: the first time, but we did what's going to be

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Speaker 1: the final four of the NFL. Not based on where

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Speaker 1: they're seated currently because that goes off of the math

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Speaker 1: of it, but just who do you think is going

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Speaker 1: to wind up in that one? It's a fun conversation

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Speaker 1: to have. I think I don't like any options of

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Speaker 1: going off your preseason pick, like unless your teams have

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Speaker 1: kind of agree with that you just have to stick

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Speaker 1: with it. I had the Patriots and the Packers like

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Speaker 1: all right there there in the mix, except except this.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you could see this in the preseason,

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Speaker 1: is a good matchup. But now that you've watched these

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Speaker 1: teams play, Broncos at Colts would just be just just

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Speaker 1: dandy stuff. I mean, I can I do wow, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was more fun than the

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Speaker 1: Broncos quotes. Gaming are in the year. Call me a board,

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Speaker 1: but I want another Brady Manning for all the marbles

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Speaker 1: one more. Alright, we've only got so much of them left.

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Speaker 1: And Brady said, I can't I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: what I do when I'm his age next year. All right, So, Greg,

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Speaker 1: you wrote a piece on our site, winners and losers

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Speaker 1: from the first half of the season. Really good stuff.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Dan always condescendingly pretends that he reads

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Speaker 1: their columns now from now on. So yeah, Greg, you

627
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Speaker 1: broke it down into two categories, moving up and moving down.

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Speaker 1: So why don't we start with the tops of the

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Speaker 1: lists of First, Moving up, you talk about the playoff races.

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Speaker 1: You're excited about the playoffs. I am kind of the

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Speaker 1: playoff picture Guru or whatever I always write about it

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Speaker 1: on the site. I'm into it. Eleven winning teams right

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Speaker 1: now in the a f C, so that's fine. And

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Speaker 1: then in the NFC you've got the forty nine, Saints

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Speaker 1: and Seahawks all out of the playoff mix at mid season.

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Speaker 1: So it just sets up for a delicious stew and

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00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: a lot of all the good a lot of the

638
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: good teams are all playing against each other down the stretch.

639
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: Looking at Cherry Pick here also free agent wide receivers

640
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: and West, you have a piece up your biggest free

641
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: agent signings in the NFL right now. Right at the

642
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: top of the list, you have two guys, Bang Golden

643
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: Tate and Steve Smith. Came Loue. Steve didn't get number

644
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: one on the list. That's how good Golden Tate has been.

645
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: I told you last last podcast i'd put him in

646
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: a top ten list for m v P. You guys

647
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: kind of knocked uh the Broncos just assuming that they

648
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: could easily replace Eric Decker, and they pretty much have

649
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: done it with Hanuel Sanders. Absolutely that I was dead

650
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: wrong about Emmanuel Sanders. Now, in my defense, we did

651
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: not see this guy in Pittsburgh, he wasn't making plays

652
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: in traffic and burning people deep like he's been in Denver. Well,

653
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: there there is a weird phenomenon that happens in most sports,

654
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: and it's hard to put your finger on what happens

655
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: from place to place. The easy one is Emmanuel Sanders

656
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: hailed Peyton and you know the work ethic and everything else.

657
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: But that might be true. There's probably something to that

658
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: that he coaches up as receivers better. But there is

659
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: a counter to that that no one ever really does discuss,

660
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: which is there are certain receivers that play better with

661
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: a Lansing quarterback like Roethlisberger. Emmanuel Sanders would would Santonio Holmes.

662
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: I mean listen that his departure um wasn't wasn't the

663
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: greatest from Pittsburgh. But in his time there, there's not

664
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: been a guy until really that now the emergence of

665
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, who worked better than than Santonio did. That

666
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: they had a chemistry, which is basically, when the play

667
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: broke down, Santonio knew how they get back to him

668
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: and find Roethlisberger spot in. Roethlisberger would consistently connect with

669
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,760
Speaker 1: him in Santonio would pay it off by making making play.

670
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: That's why they got a Risa and Randall Cobb. He

671
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: was gonna he's that guy. He's the guy when the

672
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 1: play breaks down, it's just the two of them figure

673
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: it out. They have a mind milk when the playbreaks

674
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 1: did Roger, did you put the Sean Jackson on the list?

675
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: I need to check out. He's honorably mentioned. Brandon LaFell

676
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: also has been a nice little greg. You also have

677
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: rookie wide receivers on your list of movers, Calvin Benjamin,

678
00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, Brandon Cooks, John Brown, all guys bottom of

679
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 1: the list. Your last two moving up entries. That gets

680
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: me excited. I never thought i'd see this. Can never

681
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: predict the NFL season. John Elway and Kyle Orton back

682
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: to back at the bottom. Let's Kyle Orton. How good

683
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: has uh Kyle Orton been? The quiet warrior? I mean,

684
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: if you didn't know who he was, you would think

685
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm trying to think of a who

686
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 1: has he been as good this year? It's only been

687
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: four games, but he's got eight yards per attempt, nine touchdowns,

688
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: three and he's been very solid. Good is Eli Manning

689
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: and Carson Palmer. Right, he's been better than Kyle before.

690
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: He's been Jake Cutler. What's fun to look at him

691
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: in in a year where we saw a lot of

692
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: young QB's play back up to start the season, to

693
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: these journeyman guys McNown and so on, Orton, who was

694
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: on no roster at the start of the season, has

695
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: outperformed all those guys who teams foolishly thought, oh, yeah,

696
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: we're gonna roll with the with this uh thirty four

697
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: year old journeyman, and yeah, he's a better option than

698
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: the young big arm kid. He's making people money. I mean,

699
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: he's gonna play another five years if he wants to,

700
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: Orton and he's gonna keep Marone and their GM Whalley

701
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: in their jobs for next year. Basically Orton will be

702
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: responsible for that. It's gonna be responsible for an extension

703
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: on their house. I don't know about that. Now we

704
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: look at moving down John Insincs at the top of

705
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: the list. We talked about him. I cannot talk about

706
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: the glacier anymore unless you have something that Greg uh

707
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: tell me about the sweater choices. Even he's he's just

708
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: the worst. He's one of those guys. The less he says,

709
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,240
Speaker 1: I feel like that press conference was a big advertisement

710
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: for why he shouldn't be a leader. What's the Jason

711
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: Whitlock line that you sometimes cite that Mike Tannebaum is

712
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: sitting back in his chair rolling big, cackling, cackling, and

713
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: roland A. Blunt are a friend of the podcast. Uh,

714
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: Mike Tannenbaum, how did you feel as a Jets fans?

715
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't want you, but but did you

716
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: the patronizing the Jets fans deserve better than this? And

717
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: and he also black, I have no one in this

718
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: The tone that he took like a lot of responsibility.

719
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: I've let down, I've let down countless New York. Do

720
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: you think you're Spider Man? Your talking about the responsibility.

721
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: It's too great for you to understand. And then you know,

722
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: saying that he's you know, I've won before and you haven't.

723
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: He was like a money man. Yeah, where he was

724
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: with Tampa and then Seattle in Seattle exactly, He's not

725
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: that guy. The whole thing discussed me anyway. So the

726
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: NFC South you have disappointed you? Greg Well, it always

727
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 1: has been my sneaky favorite division. The NFC South, probably

728
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:38,800
Speaker 1: because I kind of like the Saints and I always

729
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: kind of always like I always like Cam Newton and

730
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: the Falcons are under it. I thought the Bucks were

731
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: gonna be good. It's just it's the worst they've ever

732
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: been this division the NFL usually fans usually ignore this

733
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: division anyways. This year they should Tomato canes. They are

734
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: the Falcons are, say you Rosenthal in Westling. They use

735
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: their eye balls to break down x's and oh's. I

736
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: used my gut, and I my gut told me as

737
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: a human being. In August, all I needed to see

738
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: was the first ninety seconds that Teva Smith walks into

739
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons room there to Kimpitts with the eighty

740
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: or so guys and his teams. We got guys, we

741
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: gotta get tough. We gotta get tougher, tougher guys. That's it.

742
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: That's it, that they're going. One of the more cringeworthy

743
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: moments in Hard Knocks, ever, is that premiere where that

744
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: was the entire basis of the episode and it was

745
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: just done in such a clunky manner like that they

746
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: had no idea how to get tough, but it was

747
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: just like, we need to be, we got it, we

748
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: got bringing everything talk about cringe worthy. I guess damage

749
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: has a better window into you know, the soul of

750
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: humans and where that's going. Because Dan watched that same

751
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: program and took from it that this team's moral fiber

752
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: so hard, I'm gonna so great that I'm gonna pick

753
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: them to go to the playoffs. I got. I definitely

754
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: didn't cite the moral fiber of the team, but I

755
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,919
Speaker 1: did as Greg. We've talked about that. It's very easy

756
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 1: to get sucked into a team on hard knocks thinking

757
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: they're going to be good and this y yeah, I

758
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: and they are not good. They started out okay, but

759
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: I don't know who said it today. Uh, this has

760
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: been such a long podcast because Dave's involved if they

761
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: would have won that game in England. The medium, that's right,

762
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: but the medium is to talk, and yet I always

763
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: get this fair for talking. It's a crazy I don't understand.

764
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: All Right, finally, Uh, let's just go over. Uh we're

765
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: talking about Seattle's invincibility West. You decide what Greg should

766
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 1: talk on or Nick Foles is long term viability, Let's

767
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: talk about one of these. I feel like Seattle has

768
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: been done to death. Let's hear about Nick nick Foles.

769
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: Will Nick Fools be the starter opening day? Yeah, Gregg interesting, No,

770
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: I think if he, I think he's going to continue

771
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 1: playing like this, And I think if he continues playing

772
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,720
Speaker 1: like this, they're gonna bring in at the least someone

773
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: to compete with them, a good strong and because he's

774
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: not as good as he could bring a tomato cane

775
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: off the street to put up those numbers in this offense,

776
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: bringing Dennis Dixon or something from the old Oregon days. G. J. Kinney. Yeah,

777
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 1: maybe I wouldn't be shocked if Sanchez plays this year

778
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 1: the way things are going well, I mean, you know

779
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: that that seems silly until you consider, you know, as

780
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: Clowney gonna go on Sunday, Because if Clowney goes and

781
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,240
Speaker 1: and you have Watt and the crowd noise in Houston

782
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: and everything, there's a chance that the Texans could take

783
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: down the Eagles, and then that then the noise will

784
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 1: really get loud out of Philly. If if falls underperforms

785
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: against the big pass rout, I think the move is

786
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 1: to bench him, like after a win, like Chip Kelly, Hey,

787
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: we're scoring forty points, but this guy's stinks. We should

788
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: be scoring sixty, Chip Kelly. Only a genius would do that. Alright, gentlemen,

789
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: so let's get into the discussion of what teams we

790
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: see falling off in the second half. This is a

791
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's a mid season show on the Around

792
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. So this will be teams that are

793
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: doing well that I guess, greg Or, if the season

794
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: ended today, if you played that dumb game, they would

795
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: be in the playoffs or near the playoffs. Things are

796
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: going well and that could fall apart. And now that's

797
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: all gonna fall apart. So what we did, we all, uh,

798
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: we all went off independently. We sat down and combed

799
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: through the numbers and the schedules and pick teams who

800
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: might fall off. So the boss, We're gonna start with you, Greg,

801
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: who is the team you see falling off in the

802
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 1: second half this season? Well, I'm cheating. I'm gonna take

803
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: two teams in the All right, Well we'll start with

804
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. Then the Dolphins in the Bills for many

805
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: of the same reasons. Good early in the season, but

806
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: if you look at their road schedule the rest of

807
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 1: the way, you have some automatic losses at Denver, at

808
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: New England and then at Detroit also in the mix,

809
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: and then some very tough home games against the Chargers, Bills,

810
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: and Ravens. So I think they've benefited from a pretty

811
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: early eason, early season schedule. When the two of them

812
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: faced the Bills and the Dolphins in Week eleven, that

813
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 1: feels like an elimination game, like you have to win

814
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: that game to get into the playoffs. You know, we

815
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: all we always know the Dolphins are gonna fall off

816
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: in the second half, though, I'm just saying they've got

817
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: that's a brutal sule. You know, even if it was

818
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: a decent schedule or AV wasn't our bold critics and

819
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: segment or anything. This is just who's got a tough

820
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: slate the rest of the way. Joe phillipin exciting for

821
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: his job, and I don't think either those teams just

822
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. That continues with the same tepid

823
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: tone that rose all established there. You want bold? Is

824
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: that what you're asking four hands is, yeah, give us

825
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: something big. You know, who's gonna fall off. The Seattle Seahawks,

826
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 1: they're already struggling and everything is you know, Jeff Darlington

827
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: on record this week. Oh, it's overrated. I went into

828
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: the locker room and Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman said,

829
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: there's no no, no smoking, so it must be true.

830
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: And after surviving against Carolina, which is what they did

831
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: is survived in that game, they're gonna get to six

832
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: and three because they host the Raiders and then now

833
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: the the damaged New York Giants. So all these concerns

834
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: will be long in the rear view mirror. But then

835
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: look at what happens to their schedule. Listen to this

836
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: brutal six game stretch at Casey Cardinals at San Francisco

837
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving Night, which you know means the crowd is

838
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 1: gonna be jacked up at Philly, then the Niners back

839
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: in Seattle, then at Arizona. They're gonna have to go.

840
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: By my count, I think they have to go better

841
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: than five hundred and that six game stretch to make

842
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: the postseason, because if we assume six wins by the

843
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: time they begin that, and then let's say they win

844
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: their home game uh to close the season out at

845
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: home against the Rams, that's seven wins. If they only

846
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: go three and three and that in that slate, ten

847
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 1: wins I don't think gets them into the NFC postseason.

848
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: I agree, I think it's going to be eleven this year.

849
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: It's a top heavy and right now there eight. It's

850
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: a top heavy year. There's eleven a FC teams that

851
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: have a winning record right now. It could be one

852
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,919
Speaker 1: of those years that a bunch of ten and six

853
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: teams don't get let in. By the way, is it

854
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: just me or is Russell Wilson approaching even maybe going

855
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: past Derek Jeter as far as the athlete that says nothing,

856
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: that shuts down everything with this, the most cliche response

857
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: is possible, quite possibly now the most boring athlete in

858
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: America Peyton Manning's title. He better Peyton drops a couple

859
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: of there's the godfather of that role. But he's got

860
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: some bits too that he works and sometimes he got

861
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: a little got a little bit of an uncle humor

862
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: thing going on. Wilson is just dry, is incredibly boring.

863
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: He's always been. I don't think that's a new one,

864
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: but you're right, I hate all the shutting down. And

865
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: he's also the one that the media will always defend.

866
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 1: Kind of like talking about a league where a starting

867
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: quarterback was ordered to cut his hair and shave his mustache.

868
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: It's a shame. It's the league is worse for sports,

869
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: is worse for the lack of personality and having it

870
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,800
Speaker 1: tamped down for the purposes of the team. It doesn't

871
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: suit the individual. Of course, everybody, if they want to

872
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: market themselves, should be Muhammad Ali or Charles Barkley or

873
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: Shaq Fu and instead it's you know, it's bad for

874
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: the team. So then Russell Wilson behaves like he's a

875
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: political candidate and shame the devil if he says anything,

876
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: whereas Peyton Man Manning does have a bad habit of uh. Well,

877
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: it's actually funny is if you get under a skin, well,

878
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: I think I've had some pretty good years. If you

879
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,640
Speaker 1: ask him like, hey, what's going on? You've you've gotten

880
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: picked off four times in the last two games. What's

881
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: going on? I think my resume may speak, you can

882
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: get under his skin pretty it's true. And Peyton man

883
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 1: a great commercial actor to Wes as you attest to correct,

884
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: worst commercial actor. All right, let's get back, so let's

885
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: let me throw of mine out there. And this this

886
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: hurts me a little bit because they are and Dave,

887
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're aware of this, The official

888
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: team of around the NFL this year is the San

889
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers, the Superchargers. I don't have a good feeling

890
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: about the second half there five and three now coming

891
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: up back to back losses. They are at Miami this week.

892
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 1: To me, that's a coin flip game. Uh. Then they

893
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,879
Speaker 1: have their by then they have Raiders and Rams at home,

894
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 1: so that sets up pretty nice. You gotta win both

895
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 1: those games. Then it gets real tricky in the in

896
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: the back end, the last five games at Ravens home

897
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: to Patriots, home to Broncos, at Niners, at Chiefs. Uh So,

898
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: if they don't take care of business in the next

899
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: three weeks, if they lose two of three in the

900
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 1: next three weeks, which would be a surprise, especially with

901
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders involved, but not absolutely stunning, then they're in

902
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: pretty hot water. I would think that's the toughest closing stretch.

903
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: I think in the entire NFL. We do have an

904
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: article about this up nfl dot com slash mid season

905
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 1: Reports report and look at all those Why didn't you

906
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: talk over my hesitation before? Oh you I forgot that.

907
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: I forgot. It's an a little bit um. I think

908
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna be the underdogs in five of those games,

909
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: five straight games possibly the end of the season. They're

910
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: not gonna be favored in any one of those. Did

911
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,760
Speaker 1: we look at the schedule before we name it ad NFL?

912
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: I listened. I did one worse. I picked them to

913
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: win the division, the division that includes the Denver Broncos.

914
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 1: The thing I didn't count on was was the Chiefs

915
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: being relevant. I mean this, I said, uh last week,

916
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 1: I feel like no one it talks about the Chiefs.

917
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: It's really weird if you think about it, that this

918
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: team is now four and three, they won four in

919
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: a row, and nobody says boo about them. And what

920
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: that says to me is it proves we all like

921
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: the narratives that we establish and then if something goes

922
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 1: against it's like, well, but I've written and talked a

923
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: lot about that. Now, I don't really want to acknowledge

924
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: I was wrong about about them, because every team in

925
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: the league is four and three. It's not that unique.

926
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 1: And by THO we've talked about this especially tough if

927
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: they get San Francisco Week sixteen, which they have, uh,

928
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: we've talked about they could San Francisco could be back

929
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: to what we thought they were last year by then,

930
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: when they get a little more healthy and start to

931
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: hit their groove as we expect them to do. Potentially,

932
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 1: I think Chargers Chiefs that's the early favorite for the

933
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:21,959
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football week because they don't care. It can't

934
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: go for ratings. They just go whatever game puts a

935
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: winner into the playoffs, and that feels like that's gonna

936
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: be for this. Maybe Andy Reid will field his team

937
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: this year. Eddie Reid, he West your team. I look

938
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: at this a little bit differently. If you're a great team,

939
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter too much what's what your schedule is.

940
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 1: You're gonna win more than your fair share of games.

941
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: If you're a team that's been kind of lucky so

942
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: far and you've been winning a lot of games in

943
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 1: which one or two plays as a turning point, that's

944
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, and they have a tough schedule. They

945
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: close versus Seattle and at San Francisco. That's really tough.

946
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 1: I don't see them. They are what their record says

947
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 1: they are, but they've also been lucky and over the

948
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: course of the year that tends to even out a

949
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: little bit. I think the car I think the Cardinals

950
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: fall off. You could almost say the whole division as

951
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: a tough slate at the end, because they all play

952
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: each other in Arizona. They still have Dallas, they have

953
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City, they have Detroit. San Francisco actually looks like

954
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: the one out of that group that's maybe it's sitting pretty.

955
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: They've gotten to division road games out of the way already.

956
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: For a team that's played every game close at Atlanta,

957
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: is no gimme mhm. Well, and you know, first of all,

958
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: this is a massive weekend for some juicy matchups with

959
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: obviously Brady Brady and Peyton, but neither of those guys

960
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 1: really needs it. I think both of those guys are

961
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: Both of those teams are obviously at least gonna win

962
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: their division for seating, though it might be another matter

963
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: Bravens Pittsburgh big. But the biggest of them all is

964
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: that Cowboys Cardinals game. I feel like whoever loses that

965
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: game is in some not you know that their season.

966
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,760
Speaker 1: They're not off the rails, but they're in legit jeopardy

967
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: of losing their division. If the Cardinals lose that one,

968
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: the West is point, you know, the Sea everybody who assumes,

969
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: well the Seahawks and forty Niners are ultimately going to

970
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: catch the Cardinals, that's that's gonna happen. Except those two

971
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: teams haven't played each other yet, so if they split

972
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: that series, that puts them at four losses. The Cardinals

973
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,479
Speaker 1: have one. Even if the Seahawks were to sweep them,

974
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 1: they still would have one game up on them. So

975
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: the Cardinals need to beat the Cowboys this weekend. Conversely,

976
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys go into a two game skard see

977
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: their schedules not too bad. But we we did these

978
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: bold predictions for the second half, and we wrote them

979
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: on Monday, and mine was that the Cowboys won't make

980
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs, which is looking a little less bold now

981
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: that they've lost to the Redskins and Romo hurt. And

982
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: I could see that happening. That they're a team I

983
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: don't see many gimme wins. Alright, great works and brought

984
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: the heat, drop the hammer on the people. All right,

985
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: let's get into the Thursday night game. Uh, this is

986
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: a good Thursday night game. End And if they may

987
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: get a lollipop from some shadowy league figures. The first

988
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: NFL Network game No CBS, Sorry, Les moon Base. The

989
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: NFC South showdown between the Saints and the Panthers is

990
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: only on NFL Network Networking. It's a good game, very

991
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: good game that will decide who moves into first place

992
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: in the division. The Saints maybe got back on track

993
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: with a big win at home over the Packers and

994
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: certainly looked explosive uh, including West's boy mark Ingram going

995
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: off in West's boy of stables stable of boys, excuse me,

996
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: mark Ingram uh. And then Caroline Panthers tough loss to

997
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 1: the Seahawks in their own building. Now they have a

998
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 1: big home game against the Saints, who stake on the road.

999
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 1: How do we say it? I just wrote up this

1000
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: preview for the site. The Panthers have a problem up front.

1001
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: They're without boast starting guards and left tackle Byron Bell.

1002
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: They're starting a rookie undrafted free agent at left tackle,

1003
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: Junior Collette is going to come off that side just

1004
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 1: licking his chops. Sts defense hasn't exactly traveled well in

1005
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: a while like this entire year, and this was a

1006
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: tough one because of road team. The Saints have had

1007
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: problems in Carolina regardless over the last few years and

1008
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: on a short week. I had a hard time picking

1009
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: the Saints, but I still did anyways, because it just

1010
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: seems like they're getting their mojo back together and Carolina

1011
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: is not a very good team. I think we're still

1012
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: thinking that there's parts of last year left, but all

1013
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: they are is Cam Newton and that's about it. Yeah,

1014
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: but that's a massive factor. Obviously, is Cam Newton. I

1015
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,839
Speaker 1: think that, And he's an inconsistent performer. Obviously he's inconsistent

1016
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: with his accuracy, so you never know when that's going

1017
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: to benefit the team. He could explode on Thursday night

1018
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: the you know, prime time all that and uh and

1019
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: have a great game. But that said, West was the

1020
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: first one to call out mark Ingram and if they

1021
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 1: can stick to banging him like that against against the

1022
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: Carolina front there, I think they should win that game.

1023
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: There's I picked the Panthers, and you guys made good

1024
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: points about there may not be that good a team,

1025
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: but yes, the Cam Newton factor and then cannot up

1026
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: on the road element enough with the Saints. They're own

1027
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: for it on the road this season and they've lost

1028
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: ten of twelve including the playoffs. They're not just the

1029
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: mediocre road team. They're one of the worst road teams

1030
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: in football, and even coming off a great win on

1031
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: Sunday night, I can't get behind them, and I won't

1032
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: pick them on the road until they win a big game,

1033
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: which this would be. And by the way, Aaron Rodgers

1034
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: doesn't get hurt in that game, I'm not sure that

1035
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: they even win that one. Carolina played pretty well last

1036
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: week against Seattle, I thought for the most part. I

1037
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: mean it's a misleading final score. Rick Earl Russell Wilson

1038
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: blew two touchdowns in one series. Marshawn Lynch dropped the

1039
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: touchdown leading. You can make those cases in every game

1040
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: both Seattle should have scored. Carolina fumbled while on a

1041
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: handoff on a ten yard line, and Kelvin Benjamin dropped

1042
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: a touchdown. You know you can find that in both things.

1043
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: They actually, I don't know if they found their defensive

1044
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: line is so bad this year compared to last year.

1045
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:58,359
Speaker 1: But Cony really started showing up a little bit last week,

1046
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: maybe a little. Here's the said. Let me say this,

1047
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: this is something that's just been my big, my big

1048
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: observation or speculation I should say of the week and

1049
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: talk to Nate Burleson, who obviously is lives up in

1050
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: Seattle and knows Marshawn Lynch and the rest the premise

1051
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: that now Percy Harvin's God. Now they get back to

1052
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 1: Seahawks football. What got them there last year? Just pound

1053
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: time's a game, Marshawn Lynch. The problem is, Marshawn Lynch

1054
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 1: isn't the sort of guy knowing he's on his way

1055
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: out the door. The organization has made that clear. Hey,

1056
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Speaker 1: toe the ball for us. We're gonna run you into

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Speaker 1: the ground because we have no future with you, So

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Speaker 1: just do our bidding for the next couple of such

1059
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: a cold sentiment. By the way, it is a side

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Speaker 1: we always see that all the time about a kind

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Speaker 1: of protect You just run him. You don't need him

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00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: next year. It's like, God, addle, I don't get what

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00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: the point is here. So if they asked him to

1064
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: carry it twenty five times, he's gonna say, no, my

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00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: limits twenty I'm done for the day. But he is

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00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: a banger. But the Hamerton more yards per carry this

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00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: year than last. The only reason he's not having as

1068
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Speaker 1: good as a year car that's that's damnishex prediction there,

1069
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 1: that there's a gathering cloud Listen, he's petulant on on

1070
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Speaker 1: social media with with the towards the team show with

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Speaker 1: the White House. Who do you think this guy? Whatever?

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Speaker 1: You want whatever? Having no doubt that he's petulant. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how this theory actually not running hard? How

1074
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: about it? Well, wouldn't that show up in the stats

1075
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: somehow or on film? No, I didn't say it had

1076
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: begun yet as the season where how is that going

1077
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Speaker 1: to help his value? Though? If he wants to make

1078
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Speaker 1: money now, I don't think that's my point. You have

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Speaker 1: professional integrity and that's what carries the day. Hey, I

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Speaker 1: want to have a career beyond air go, I'm gonna

1081
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: put out. I think Marshawn Lynch is the sort of

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Speaker 1: guy who who's like, yeah, you want to you wanna

1083
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Speaker 1: mistreat me, I'll show you. I'll mistreat you. Meanwhile, pour

1084
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: Panthers fans out, they're wondering that. You know, they used

1085
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: to be the team of a t L. Now they

1086
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: don't even get talked about in their own segment. They're

1087
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Speaker 1: not exciting this year. Yeah, I don't reward mediocrity. And

1088
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Speaker 1: and by the way, they don't know what they're good at.

1089
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Speaker 1: They're not good at anything. It will be a fascinating

1090
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Speaker 1: case study. By the way Marshawn Lynch in free agency

1091
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Speaker 1: during his age season, somebody's gonna probably overpay for If

1092
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Speaker 1: the Saints do in this game, suddenly you're a Super

1093
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 1: Bowl pick, which looked insane. At least, they're gonna look

1094
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: like heavy favorites to have a home game in the playoffs.

1095
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Speaker 1: If they just win this game, it's almost like the

1096
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: first half never happened. If they get the defense getting

1097
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: a little better, it's exactly right, and there's no dominant

1098
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: team in the NFC, right, well, then then you're the

1099
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: four seed at best, probably in their situation. But it's

1100
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Speaker 1: almost like the first half that doesn't happen. If if

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Speaker 1: they win this game, they can finish with the Nfciva

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Speaker 1: Mike and his gang over in London. If they pull

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00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:44,439
Speaker 1: that one out against the Lions on Sunday, they're right

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00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: in the middle of the the NFC South right, they

1105
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: can absolutely win that. Terrible the score keeping you have

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Speaker 1: the Saints in this game. The Saints are I thought

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Speaker 1: you'd be with me, Dave, by the way, I all

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Speaker 1: he's loved Cam Newton and he gives them the so

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Speaker 1: called puncher's chance. But I just think practically mark Ingram

1110
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Speaker 1: banging that defense on the ground all days, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: I didn't miss that plug at all. Great battery that

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Speaker 1: you might get a hero pick out of this. Sessler

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Speaker 1: is also on the scene. Tasty. Then that's it, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: for another edition of the Round the NFL podcast, The

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition Dave Damage, Thank you so much? Time was gay?

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Speaker 1: I thought it was. It was a lot of fun. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I talked a lot. No, it was expected and we

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Speaker 1: enjoyed it. So it's like a supersized version you Dave Damage,

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Speaker 1: Football program, the Check Report, Football Baby, NFL, all sorts

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Speaker 1: of great Dave contact. Uh. And that's it for the

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Speaker 1: show is Dan Hansons signing off for the mail Man

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Speaker 1: and the Boss and TV behind the glass. So there's