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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. It's the almost Famous podcast, and we

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Speaker 1: are here today to make things happen for you. The

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Speaker 1: listener breakdown everything going on in the Bachelorette, Bachelor Nation,

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Speaker 1: also with our lives. Speaking of lives, how are you, Ashley?

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Speaker 1: I am very overwhelmed. Why we're still like, you know,

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Speaker 1: so bad. And I think I've said it before because

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Speaker 1: I've moved like a zillion times while recording this podcast.

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Speaker 1: I can't get anything done until I get the house

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Speaker 1: organized because you know, messy house, messy brain. So it's

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Speaker 1: just like kind of a detriment. But it's fine. It's

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Speaker 1: this has been such an easy move comparably speaking to

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Speaker 1: the past couple, because everything has its place. I've done

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Speaker 1: like the big purges and all that, so it's really

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Speaker 1: give me a week, I'll be fine. Who puts what's

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Speaker 1: going on? Who puts together the furniture? When you move

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Speaker 1: in your house? The movers? Oh, why would you think

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Speaker 1: that Jared and friend did it. I mean I always

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Speaker 1: have to do it, and it's the move. Now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's the most painful thing because half of it's like

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Speaker 1: you know, I keia wayfair like that kind of stuff

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Speaker 1: I'm tired. So that that's Jared putting together a baby item. Now. Now, furniture,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'll usually have my father in law put

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Speaker 1: it together. If I buy it for the house it's

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Speaker 1: not part of a move, then I'll have him come

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Speaker 1: over and do it. Um, Jared can do it. It's

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Speaker 1: just a matter of like getting Jared to do it

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Speaker 1: totally understandable. Um. Yeah, you don't have to get a task,

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Speaker 1: grab it, man, That's all I can say. Well, actually,

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Speaker 1: I got a big update in my life. If you

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Speaker 1: if you watched E this last week, you saw me

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Speaker 1: on television. Yeah, I wanted to talk about that. Uh

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Speaker 1: it's not that I mean it was awesome, right, Nick

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Speaker 1: and I competed on the Celebrity Beef hosted by the

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Speaker 1: one and only Joel Mcial, whom a huge fan of,

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Speaker 1: who has headed spectacular um come back on his hairline.

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Speaker 1: I mean that guy used to have no really Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: he talks about it. Should I google this? Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: gotta google list. But he is hilarious. Um, there's a

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Speaker 1: Holy damn. Now I told you it's pretty crazy. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's an option out there, Ashley. Do you want to

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Speaker 1: hear behind the scenes of this that I don't share often? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I go out to l A for celebrity beef.

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Speaker 1: I played golf with Wells Adams and Brett Adams his brother. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The day before that is the day I got my

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Speaker 1: hole on one. You know what happens when you get

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Speaker 1: you sell, you celebrate. It's a big deal. And I

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, I've been in a bar where somebody's

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Speaker 1: of the thing, like the tradition. Well, so like Wells

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Speaker 1: We had an eight am called time. So that show

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Speaker 1: some reruns. It was a good time, Ashley. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just weird, but it's fun. It's fun.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be back in front of the cameras.

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Speaker 1: I felt like I shined. They put the two of

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Speaker 1: and it's part I actually don't know this, but Nick

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you held your own and I can't wait

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Speaker 1: week's Bachelor write episode after this break? Yeah? We should

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. Let's go this week's Bachelorette episode.

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Speaker 1: It's getting down to the nitty gritty. I think that's

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Speaker 1: falling in love with it. No, no matter from what perspective,

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Speaker 1: like everybody loves Amsterdam, proud to be touch. There we go.

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Speaker 1: How did you find that out? Ashley and me? Actually

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Speaker 1: I just know because my grandparents came from Holland. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: also twenty three and me with the confirmation. There we go. Uh,

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Speaker 1: if you haven't listened yet, we had a game show

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Speaker 1: It's Jeopardy. It's hilarious. Ashley was so into it. It

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Speaker 1: all this stuff. Some people are saying that the franchise

426
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 1: is getting a little bit more sexual because of the

427
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,879
Speaker 1: competition shows like Love Island, which is really raunchy. This

428
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: maybe was a demonstration of that and the Bachelor in

429
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: Paradise poster. Do you see the tagline? Basically, yeah, it's

430
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: a lot what it says. Are you DTF with the

431
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: two swans on top of each other? I was really

432
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: I think they're hugging, but that's fine. Yeah, Okay, the

433
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 1: Flamingoes whatever they are Flamingo Sorry, um ok, but no,

434
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: this was it was funny to watch. I do though, Like,

435
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: no matter what you're preferences or values are, you know, sexually,

436
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 1: I I thought these guys handled themselves really well and

437
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 1: they kind of rode with it, which I feel like

438
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: it's the best way. Um. A lot of last, a

439
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 1: lot of giggles. It's weird to watch though, like because

440
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: I still watched this show feeling like I'm watching my

441
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: friends and I don't really want to see my friends

442
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: like to do this kind of stuff. But I didn't

443
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: hate this day. Yeah, I mean neither. You know how

444
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: we feel we like of often times are like, oh

445
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: my god, why they do that? Like when Kenny and

446
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: Mari had that eating off each other day and then

447
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: there was that the toe and and and the whip

448
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: cream last year. Yeah, and if we're just like no,

449
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: gross stop this is not necessary. But this was actually

450
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 1: quite fun for me. Yeah. No, I think there was

451
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: a good line and I thought this was an enjoyable

452
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 1: group date to watch. I wouldn't want to be a

453
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 1: part of it. Um. I don't necessarily think the kids

454
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,199
Speaker 1: should be viewing this, but it's, uh, you know, it

455
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: is what it is. I thought the guys rode with it,

456
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: so it does pick up uh gabby spirits. And then

457
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: after this group date, Jesse comes to find Gabby to

458
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 1: tell her that Logan has gotten COVID nineteen. Now, we

459
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: don't need to sit on this too long because it's

460
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: all going to be speculation. But if he had COVID

461
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: and he was on this group date, I have two questions,

462
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: Where did he get COVID? And then how did not

463
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: everybody with Like? How is how are they not freaking

464
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,439
Speaker 1: out that every single cast member is gonna be getting COVID.

465
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: I'm assuming that he must have I don't know. I

466
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know where would you have gotten it?

467
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: And how did it not spread to the other guys

468
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: that he was living in such close quarters? Too? Yeah?

469
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: I mean those those I'm telling you right now, where

470
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: the guys live is probably not the most sanitary, hygienic,

471
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: clean environment. Smells a little funky. You're always sitting around

472
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: with each other, you know, you're having drinks, you're doing whatever.

473
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: I don't know how nobody else didn't get didn't test positive.

474
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: And I also don't understand how they were able to

475
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: just continue to move forward. I mean, that's what I'm saying.

476
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like they didn't give us a lot

477
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: to this other than the fact that he got it

478
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: and had to go home. We will have to have

479
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: Logan on the podcast and ask him more questions about this. Anybody,

480
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 1: I mean, Jesse Logan, a producer, Rachel Gabby like, we

481
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: just gotta know what happened. But he's gone. Here's but

482
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: like does he ever say, like, does Jesse ever tell

483
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: her he's on and he will be staying on? He didn't.

484
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: They didn't say like you're just going to keep him

485
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: in the cabin for five days. Well, yeah, they didn't

486
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: say a lot. But here's my here's my take, and

487
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: disagree with me. I'm watching this as a viewer again. Speculation.

488
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,719
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like Gabby was too upset, Like she

489
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: didn't seem torn up that like Logan was not going

490
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: to be there, which makes me think he was gone

491
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 1: this week anyways, what do you think he was probably

492
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: gonna bign okay? And you know, I have a theory

493
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,440
Speaker 1: here possibly he was. They like, you know, they still

494
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: have to test the cast like all day long, all

495
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: the time. They still I think to test the cast

496
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: like every day, which is um so maybe there's like

497
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: a false positive and they're just like you're out. Yeah,

498
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: we're not risking it and then who knows what happened,

499
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: They sent him to the mainland off off the cruise. Fair,

500
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: fair enough, Well, we'll see, we'll have to ask ruh.

501
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: So the next we have Rachel's group date. Really fun

502
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: group date there in the cheese capital of the world. Uh.

503
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: I loved Ethan being lactose and tolerant because so many

504
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: people are, and so it was a hilarious quote. Um,

505
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: he was so cute when he said that. I loved it.

506
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: And by the way, Holland is known for its gudha,

507
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: so it looked kind of like Guda. So that was

508
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: a great date too. These are group dates I can

509
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: get into. Yeah, So I would say, actually, if you know,

510
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 1: we've been critical of the dates uh in the past,

511
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: I would say, so far, the group dates during this

512
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: season have been really fun for the most part. There's

513
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: some weird ones, right, we haven't seen a ton of

514
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: wedding gown outfits and stuff, which you know is always

515
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: the most awkward to me. But this, uh, the group

516
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: one photo shoot, the one photo shoot we can do without.

517
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: We can do without it. But this is a cool one.

518
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: They're highlighting the cheese, the culture of the area, which

519
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: is what we want to see why. It's why they

520
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: travel internationally so that we can see the area little bit.

521
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: They got creative when it came to the kind of

522
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: weightlifting um game or competition that they did, Tina pulls

523
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: it out at the end. It was it was a

524
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: hard fought battle. Ethan was there until the end. I Uh,

525
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: you know, these dudes are really strong, and I have

526
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: a feeling that lasted a really long time. Um, I

527
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 1: would say like an hour and a half. They were

528
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: probably you're so lying, are you kidding me? I think minutes? No,

529
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: I probably took I think it took a long time.

530
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 1: And I mean, how much was that cheese? Make? No,

531
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't remember the pounded, but if we let's pretend

532
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: each one wade twenty pounds that's and it was like

533
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: up to how many on each side? Like four? Yeah,

534
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: I feel that's eighty pounds on each side. After ten minutes,

535
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: maybe you might be right. It'll be a long time.

536
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: That's that's a long time. It was sweaty, it was

537
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: hot as uncomfortable, but they pulled it through. Tino pulled

538
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: it through. Uh. And this is where the second most

539
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: interesting part of the show occurs. To me. We go

540
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 1: to the group date, uh, cocktail party. It's a normal

541
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: group date cocktail party. Everybody's kind of saying what they

542
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: feel and they think, and they's kissing and there's laughing,

543
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: blah blah yeah, dazed out. Yeah. And then we get

544
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: to the end and Tyler gets the rose and I

545
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: he's a friend of mine, So I feel like, no, no, no,

546
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 1: I feel like I can say this. Next sent Tino

547
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: has a Sean Booth moment where it feels like he

548
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: loses his cool and it also and again I think,

549
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: I still think Tina and Rachel can make a good couple,

550
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 1: and I I like Tino, but this was a moment

551
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: where it felt a little bit like you've lost yourself

552
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: in this process. Why do you feel like you deserve

553
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: the rose? Again? Like, I mean, we know from social

554
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: media Tino's watches the show with his family. Yeah that's right.

555
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: I heard that this week too, that like he would

556
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: idolize Tyler Cameron. Yeah, because he's a construction worker and stuff. Um,

557
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: but he makes some statements during this like I hit

558
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: all the notes right, Like he had a checklist of

559
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: things he had to do that, um, which you know

560
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: last season we got really mad at a guy for

561
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: having a checklist on what what's the right and wrong

562
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: things to do? We kicked them off the show week

563
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: one or two or whatever it was, for having a

564
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: playbook that was weird. And then it felt um, it

565
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: felt like he had never seen the show, like he

566
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: had to have known the other people are gonna get

567
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: a group day Rose and it has nothing to be

568
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: said about where your relationships at. It's just part of

569
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 1: the process. I think this is a moment that lots

570
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: of things, but to answer this, he was a moment

571
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: where he truly just got wrapped up in the moment.

572
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: And even even I, as somebody who watched the show

573
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: for five years before I was on it, there was

574
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: a group date that I'm particularly remembering that I was

575
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: just like, what PLA, just like not really remembering that,

576
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: Like a lot of this is not like game play,

577
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: but like you you spread it out, you spread the

578
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: wealth here, you have to, Yeah, you have to. Okay,

579
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: So there's that, Like I think he just kind of

580
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: got lost in it, even as a fan. But there's

581
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: a difference between Sean me watching Sean on you that

582
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: season versus me watching Tino. And everybody knows that I'm like, so,

583
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: I've been such a fan of Tino. I'm just so

584
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: drawn whenever the two of them are together, I find,

585
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: you know, like he like what I'll just say the

586
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: way it is, Tino is very much my type. So

587
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: like if he if I were the bachelorette, I'd be like,

588
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: holy moly, this man is so hot and he's swap right.

589
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: And this is the difference between what I saw between

590
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: Sean and Tina right now. And this is me saying

591
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: it as somebody who's been rooting on for Tino. Sean

592
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: it felt like he was in love and this was

593
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: he was in the leading man role and that was

594
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: my girl. Blah blah blah. To me, the vibes that

595
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm getting from Tino in this moment is he's an

596
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: f boy. This is an f boy that is not

597
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: getting his way, that his apparently is not getting the

598
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: girl's attention fully and he is shocked by that. Well,

599
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: I think you can see it two ways. It has

600
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: to be one of two ways. Either he is in

601
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: the Sean Booth moment where he is in love and

602
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: he's just not saying it yet, and so he's freaking

603
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: out like this is my girl. And I have to

604
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: see this happen or his mind is in a totally

605
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: different place. It's one of the two, I think. I don't.

606
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think you have this reaction unless

607
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: you feel strongly one way or another. I know. It

608
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: just feels like he's the guy that wants to win, win, win,

609
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: and it's a competition for him right now. And that's

610
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 1: just how I That's just how I feel. Because with Sean,

611
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 1: he like eluded this warmth. I think he's a great comparison,

612
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: which is why I keep bringing it back. He was

613
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: like eluding this warmth, like that's my girl, that's my girl.

614
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: And then like with Tino, whether it's word choice or

615
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: just overall me getting pisces vibes like me vibe in him.

616
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: I just it's not coming across to me as romantic jealousy.

617
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 1: It's just competite, like I am a man and I

618
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: must win her type jealousy. Yeah, I don't, I mean

619
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: there is I can't disagree with you. I will say

620
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: I expect this to turn for him. Oh, I don't,

621
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: you don't know. I think it's the beginning of the end. Oh.

622
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: I have this theory now and I'm not spoiled at all. Guys.

623
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: My theory is that she has ain't done it being

624
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: him the entire time, and something she sees more and

625
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: more of what we saw, and then she gets down

626
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: to the end and she doesn't think she can't do it.

627
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well it's a storyline to follow. I cannot believe.

628
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: I cannot believe that being the scenario that plays out,

629
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 1: But I now get it, like I get where you're

630
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: coming from, h Ashley. We have the Tina moment which

631
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: leads us into the Rose ceremony. Nothing fully shocking here

632
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 1: to me. Uh, obviously Ethan is going home, and also

633
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: Spencer goes home. I mean the most obvious of things.

634
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't even know if I heard Spencer

635
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: talk yet this. No, I don't know Spencer at all.

636
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 1: Is am I crazy? But like no, Spencer had like

637
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: a little group date moment a couple of weeks ago.

638
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: That was it um And Ethan seems awesome, Like I

639
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: would really like to see him in Paradise. He's fun.

640
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: And I just want to say with Tino, like I'm

641
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: still hoping this happens because I feel like the chemistry

642
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: is off the charts. But oh, and I'm sorry to

643
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: go back to that. But I also feel like can

644
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: Tino kind of like chemistry with like any girl, Like

645
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 1: I feel like he can just have like he alludes

646
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 1: that that essence of that's those an f boy is right.

647
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: You make every girl feel like the only girl in

648
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: the room for like a night. Oh who is that?

649
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 1: Is that a songline? No? Thank you? I thought you're

650
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: just quoting a song. No. I'm still rooting for them,

651
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: and I hope I'm totally wrong. I really hope I'm wrong.

652
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: And if Tino, if you get word wind of this,

653
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: like I'm rooting for you, We're all rooting for you,

654
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: so you better pull through. Step it up, buddy, step

655
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: it up. Um. All right, that's the breakdown of this

656
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: week's episode. We're moving on to hometowns. Gabbing. Rachel will

657
00:36:54,400 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: be both doing hometowns separately, obviously with their chosen men. Actuley,

658
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: we got Bachelor headlines, let's jump into it. Here is

659
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: the first Bachelor headline. Caitlin Bristow says she and Jason

660
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: Tartik are struggling with wedding planning. Were so different this

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00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: according to US Weekly. Now, Ashley, before you start, I

662
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: do want to say that Caitlin Bristow did come on

663
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: Instagram today and uh speak more about what she said here.

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00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: They did not push back their wedding because they never

665
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: had a date for their wedding. They're having a hard

666
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: time finding a venue that they both agree upon and

667
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: they both really like um and so they're working through

668
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 1: that right now. But according to this article tell us

669
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Speaker 1: what's going on. Also, according to Jason when we were

670
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 1: in Tahoe, it seems like it's not just the actual

671
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: venue that there is a little debate on. There's also

672
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: just like what state it'll be in. So basically Jason

673
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,720
Speaker 1: wants it over the top, grandiose wedding and Caitlin could

674
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: probably have it. She'd rather be a little bit more intimate.

675
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: She just says different styles of her taste. It's like

676
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: everything they almost don't agree on when it comes to

677
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: wedding planning, and it's really frustrating. Um. She says, like

678
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 1: she'll find a venue and love it and it's open available,

679
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: and then it's just like he's like, no, not at all.

680
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 1: And they wanted to get in married. They wanted to

681
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: get married this coming New Year's Eve, and like, while

682
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 1: she says that it's still could could happen. It would

683
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: really only happen if he'd be like down to have

684
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: a courthouse like backyard style wedding, and that is just

685
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: like not what he wants. So it's a prediction. This

686
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: is a predicula. But there's not trouble in paradise according

687
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: to Tho with him, they seem very good and happy.

688
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: It's just weddings are hard to figure out, and once

689
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: you do, it's a lot of on But they're not

690
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: pushing back their wedding as some reports have said. They

691
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: just never had a date, so they're trying to figure

692
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: it out. Well. Speaking of Bachelor Nation couples, this one

693
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: is shocking to me. This one shocking, shocking, absolutely shocking

694
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,279
Speaker 1: because of the things said about each other, uh and

695
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: because of how it felt like it ended. But here's

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00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 1: the headline. Actually, Bachelor Nations Peter Webber and Kelly Flannagan

697
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: spotted together nearly two years after breakup. This according to

698
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: e Holy moly, it's been two years. That can't be

699
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: two years either way. This is all so shocking because yes,

700
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: they have kind of thrown jabs at each other lots

701
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: of shade since their breakup, and now they've been spotted

702
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: and it's not like they've been spotted like some big

703
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: bachelor hang. It seems like they've been spotted one on

704
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:56,439
Speaker 1: one with each other in Chicago. Uh. They were at

705
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: a at a Chicago Cubs game on August end and

706
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: basically they were photographed together like walking the walking the stadium,

707
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: and there was even somebody who asked for a picture,

708
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: and the two of them took a picture with this

709
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: person and it's been uploaded online. Now neither person, neither

710
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: person's rep has commented to the News they have reps. Yeah,

711
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: I know, right, who's my rep? No? I don't have

712
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: a rep. Need a REP? I mean I have I

713
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: have an agent. But do I have a rep? No,

714
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: I don't have a PR. Person. I need somebody speak

715
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: for me. You that you know why you don't have one,

716
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: because you speak just fine for yourself. You're I've only

717
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: gotten myself into trouble handful of times. Um. Speaking of trouble,

718
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: Nick Vile thinks Rachel is prioritizing all the wrong things.

719
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: He quotes. This is not a popularity contest, according to people.

720
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: M okay, so he said, I honestly think Rachel she

721
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: seems great, but I think she's prioritizing all the wrong

722
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 1: things right now. Um. She said that her focus. She said,

723
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, you go onto dating apps and you're swiping

724
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: right and that indicates interest. And every time you swipe

725
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: right and you don't get an immediate match, there's like

726
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 1: a sense of rejection. Okay, I understand that he doesn't.

727
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: Oftentimes will focus on the rejection rather than the connections

728
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: that we're making, and it seems like that is what

729
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: Rachel is focused on right now. Um. He also talked

730
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: a little bit about the connection with Tino, and he

731
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:43,919
Speaker 1: says that he continues to be extremely vulnerable, um, even

732
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: when it's really hard. He also feels like, um, Rachel

733
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: would benefit from viewing rejection in the future as clarity

734
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: rather than disappointment. He was at the end of the day,

735
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: it's not a popularity contest. It's not about fine th

736
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 1: ten guys that you're into or five guys you're into.

737
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 1: It's about finding one person. And this is some classic

738
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: Nick advice where I'm like, yeah, I'm not in my head.

739
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. But

740
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: also Nick's advice is always really hard to take. It's

741
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: really hard to be the person that is the subject

742
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: of Nick's advice because he doesn't sugarcoat it. He does

743
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: say it how it is a lot and there's a

744
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 1: lot of truth in what he's saying right now, but

745
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: he's also like looking at it very logically and not

746
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: taking like a lot of heart and emotion into it.

747
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: I can't disagree with him. I just, um, yeah, you

748
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: can't disagree with him. He's he's right here. He's right

749
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: in a sense. I would say, I don't know what

750
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: Rachel's thinking, and I get that, like your confidence does

751
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: get shot a little bit too, Like I don't want

752
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: to dismiss the fact that, like, yes, she's just she's

753
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: just hurting. Like it's a weird environ room and there's

754
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: a lot going on, That's what I mean. Like, there's

755
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: a lot of emotion going on, and this is such

756
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: a logical comment, and it's just hard to It's hard

757
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: to be logical and an during the Bachelor. I mean

758
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: it's just hard. You're there's a thousand things getting thrown

759
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: at you and then yeah, you're throwing another you know,

760
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: bachelor at lead, and yeah, it's hard to be logical

761
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: and love Hey. Actually big news in Bachelor Nation, Hannah

762
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: and Sluice Uh and Boyfriend introduced new member of their family,

763
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: meet our newest edition, Dash their puppy. Big deal. Celebrate

764
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: that right, big deal because if you get if you're

765
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: gonna pet together, that means you gotta be in it

766
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: for the long haul, in it for the long. Okay.

767
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: Final headline of this week is the one that I

768
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: kind of teased earlier. Bachelor at star Nate Mitchell responds

769
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: to claims he two timed women. Now, this is what

770
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: Mike Flice was tweeting about. Um, I we can talk

771
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: about it now because Nate is obviously off the show

772
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: and Mike Flice's tweets were very obvious that they're at

773
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: least considering him to be the next lead. And I

774
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: think that's just a given. Now. He wouldn't have been

775
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: defensive over him or cared at all with the public

776
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: thought of unless he was being considered No, exactly. So Ashley,

777
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 1: what's going on here? Can you now explain this to me?

778
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: Because I don't get it? So he said, this is

779
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: what what Nate said on Instagram. He said, two sides

780
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: to every story, prayer hands or high five hands, whatever

781
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: you interpreted at us. Do you think it's high five

782
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: hands or do you think it's prayer hands? Prayer hands.

783
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a Christian, and pretty much some people

784
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: think that's high five hands. I don't know. I mean,

785
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: I just I feel like every Christian text message him on,

786
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: like if it's like a church text message, like those

787
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: are like used so often, Like people just must be

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00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: praying all the time about the most praying stuff. Well,

789
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: earlier I said, can we move the podcast back ten minutes?

790
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: Prayer hands? So you know you know where I stand. Okay, anyway,

791
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: so he goes two sides to every story, wish you

792
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: the best, um, And then a fan asked why you

793
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: playing girls? And that is basically all we get. I mean,

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00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 1: this is a kind of like a Reality Steve thing.

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00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: So this girl claimed to Reality Steve that Nate had

796
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: two timed her with a woman. This is Kelsey claiming

797
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: that he was two timing her with a woman named

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00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: law Laurie Um, and they she shared direct messages that

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00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: led her to believe that Nate was being unfaithful. And

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00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: then she said to Reality Steve, I wish Nate all

801
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: the best. I don't want to affect his future, but

802
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: it's important for me to try and prevent another girl

803
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: from being blindsided by his secrecies. So this woman previously

804
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: alleged that Nate hid his daughter from her, though he

805
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 1: proudly spoke about his role as father, you know, on

806
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: the one on one date. And that's that's what we

807
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: got here. Um, okay, so now you know, you know, yeah,

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00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no like, there's no follow up to

809
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: this other than hey, I don't know if it's real.

810
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true. I mean I would

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00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: assume that you know, there's something to it because Nate

812
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: said there's two times, two sides every story. He didn't say,

813
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: I don't even know this person, but we don't know

814
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 1: the other side. We don't know the other side, right,

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00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: there's two top sides every story. Great, we just don't

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00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: on the other side. Um, but it is, And I mean,

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00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: I think one of the interesting things that came from

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00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: this was that, you know, Mike Flies really went out

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00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: and protected Nate. I mean, yeah, So the girl, what's

820
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: her name, Kelsey? She said that she cried for a

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Speaker 1: guy who kept his kid a secret from me for

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Speaker 1: one and a half years. When we were dating and

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Speaker 1: I found out on reality TV. So I guess I

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00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,800
Speaker 1: wonder one half years. Okay, so this gives us a

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00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: little more context. They were together for a year and

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Speaker 1: a half. Now she said she he hid the kid,

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Speaker 1: kept the kid a secret. At first, I was thinking like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he never wanted her to meet the daughter. That I

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00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,479
Speaker 1: can understand, you know, maybe that he really wanted the girl,

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00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: the daughter to only meet people he was super serious about.

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00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: Maybe he wasn't super serious about this girl. But to

832
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: say that she didn't She didn't even know that he

833
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: had a kid until she found out on reality TV.

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Speaker 1: That's that's that is wild. I don't know why you'd

835
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: make this up. It's shocking. That would be Uh, that'd

836
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 1: be an interesting Monday night when you're like, oh, there's

837
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: my ex. Oh whoa my ex says is I don't

838
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: know how five year older or whatever. But uh, anyways,

839
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's a story to follow.

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00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 1: I don't know where it goes. I don't know if

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00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: it's over. I don't know what happens. But it's out there.

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00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: That happened this week. That's all we have for you today.

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Speaker 1: On The Almost Famous Podcast, it's a big episode. We

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