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Speaker 1: really can't wait for the second part of our Nick

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Speaker 1: Wright interview. He will give you the greatest story ever told.

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Speaker 1: And it happened in a hotel room with Nick Wright

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Speaker 1: in the last week. Oh, you don't want to miss it.

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Speaker 1: So Gronk retired. We think sort of, kind of, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: We're not sure, even as agent Drew Rosenhouse said, if

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady calls to listen, I work with Gronk briefly

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Speaker 1: at Fox, and generally I have a pretty good idea

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Speaker 1: of what people are like before they enter a building.

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Speaker 1: Gronk was surprisingly serious off air, incredibly candid, and one

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Speaker 1: of the things that was so clear about Gronk off

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Speaker 1: the air, I'm not sure I've ever met a professional

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Speaker 1: athlete that had that kind of contagious personality. He is

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Speaker 1: virtually impossible not to like. I could say that about

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Speaker 1: three people maybe in my life. You put Gronk in

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Speaker 1: a room men, women, old, young, doesn't matter. Gronk is

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Speaker 1: maybe the most likable professional athlete I've ever met. He's

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Speaker 1: more serious than you think. He's more of a thinker

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Speaker 1: than you think. And though I work with him briefly,

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Speaker 1: fascinating guy from an incredible family. There's been five great

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Speaker 1: tight ends in my life Kellen Winslow, Shannon Sharpe, Tony Gonzalez, Gronk,

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Speaker 1: and Travis Kelsey. Those are the five best tight ends

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Speaker 1: in my life. Now, there's been a lot of good

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Speaker 1: Casper for years with the Raiders, the late Aaron Hernandez

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Speaker 1: was a matchup nightmare. But you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: interesting things about those tight ends, they all did things differently.

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Speaker 1: Think about this with Gronk is every great football coach

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Speaker 1: There's an argument to be made that Gronk is the

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Speaker 1: last great, great offensive player Bill Belichick and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: have drafted. I mean, there's been a couple of alignment

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Speaker 1: like Damien Harris, Nate Solder from Colorado, a first round tackle,

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Speaker 1: was a good player, never great. James White more of

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Speaker 1: very complimentary. Belichick's resume is clear he was a bad

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Speaker 1: drafter on currently the most important side of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Gronk is the last great player Belichick drafted. Remember he

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Speaker 1: had some injuries, played at a basketball school Arizona. That

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Speaker 1: when you look back at Belichick, and I've made this

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Speaker 1: argument before, is that the NFL has pivoted from a

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Speaker 1: defensive league my entire childhood to an offensive league in

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Speaker 1: Is that now that Belichick is struggling without Brady, and

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Speaker 1: now that Belichick clearly struggled the last ten years of drafting,

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Speaker 1: isn't there an argument to be made that if Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid coaches for six more years, maybe seven, and wins

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Speaker 1: two Super Bowls with Patrick Mahomes, that there will not

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Speaker 1: be this gap of Belichick is the greatest coach ever

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Speaker 1: other guys that because of rule changes, we will look

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Speaker 1: at Andy Reid his last ten years of being superior

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Speaker 1: to Belichick's last ten if he stays around for a

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Speaker 1: half decade more. Sometimes you're as good of what a

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Speaker 1: people look it up. Think about how long Gronk has played.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to part two of Nick Wright.

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Speaker 1: We did an interview with him. It went like fifty

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Speaker 1: five minutes. We decided to turn it into a two parter.

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Speaker 1: something Nick Wright has been very right about for as

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Speaker 1: Nick Right was right? You have been very much the

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Speaker 1: critic of the Danny Jane draft, and Devella poured picks

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Speaker 1: Chris Middleton was healthy, Celtics don't get to the finals.

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Speaker 1: Liner the Rams. That's just the way footballers got ten stars, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: think the Celtics it just goes against They tried it

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Speaker 1: reason for this. As you know, I'm doing countdown of

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Speaker 1: they lose the final three games, Doctor J is sensational

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Speaker 1: Jannis is going nowhere. The Nets, I don't believe in

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Speaker 1: and Durant right now, the Durant stock is actually a

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Speaker 1: it became very Trinity to be like, well, how can

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Speaker 1: respect Jason Tatum, who I did put in Club Superstar

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Speaker 1: that's the hardest step, man. The hardest step is not

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Speaker 1: The hardest step is getting from where John Morant and

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Speaker 1: And if you don't, if you're not that, you can

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Speaker 1: one day when I do a whole machiavellian coup against

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Speaker 1: You gotta do it. You just gotta do it. That's

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Speaker 1: what that's gonna be my pitch. You won't have to

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Speaker 1: push too hard. I'll probably just fall off the cliff anyway. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's latest there. Uh and then now I'm doing the

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Speaker 1: math ten percent, maybe I'll sell myself short forty percent

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Speaker 1: of the salary. I'll give you eighty percent of forty

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Speaker 1: percent of the salary and be very happy. Listen, I'm

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Speaker 1: only I'm only eighty percent of me five years ago.

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Speaker 1: I just the salaries one hundred and forty percent of

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Speaker 1: what I used to do. All right, Okay, so you're

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Speaker 1: eighty percent of you five years ago. So let me

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Speaker 1: do the map there. I'm giving you sixty four percent

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Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen Concower and I want forty five percent

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Speaker 1: of twenty seventeen Colin Coward's paycheck. Getting Nick con on it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got he's got ww issues that day, something to

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Speaker 1: do with Sorry Nick, my bad buddy. He's got a

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Speaker 1: Oh God, do you think your audience can tell that's

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Speaker 1: listening that I've had a couple of coronas during the podcast.

463
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Speaker 1: You and me's just hanging out drinking or I'm you know, listen,

464
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Speaker 1: I've had it. Oh can I tell you that what

465
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Speaker 1: I did last night? Sure? Oh, I'm so excited to

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Speaker 1: tell you because I know we're going like So, my

467
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Speaker 1: wife asked me, because you like the poker part of

468
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Speaker 1: my life? Yeah, you like this part of it. So

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Speaker 1: my wife asked me Father's Day morning, what do you

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Speaker 1: want to do? Because, like you mentioned, my wife owns

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Speaker 1: that boutique, and so Father's Day's big day. And it

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Speaker 1: was juneteenth and we're in Harlem, so it's a big

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Speaker 1: business day. There's parades, there's a lot of people coming.

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Speaker 1: So she was only going to be able to be

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Speaker 1: with me in the morning, and I was like, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you what I really do want to do.

477
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: I was like, at six pm, there is a World

478
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Speaker 1: Series of Poker online, huge event that is only you're

479
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Speaker 1: only allowed to play in it if you are physically

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Speaker 1: located in Nevada or oddly enough, New Jersey. I don't

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Speaker 1: need some you know, the United States gambling laws are

482
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Speaker 1: weird with those are the rules. I was like, it's

483
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Speaker 1: a thousand bucks to enter. It's a circuit event, so

484
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Speaker 1: if you win it, you get a ring. It goes

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Speaker 1: on your Hindon mob profile. Like you it's an official

486
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Speaker 1: Big Time Poker event. I was like, so what do

487
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Speaker 1: I want to do. I was like, I want to

488
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Speaker 1: take our daughters to a nice hotel in Jersey, let

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Speaker 1: them swim and get room service and hang out, and

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Speaker 1: me plug in my computer to the internet and play

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Speaker 1: in this tournament. She was like, how long would the

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Speaker 1: tournament last? I was like, well, I mean if I

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Speaker 1: if I were to win it, you know, probably about

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Speaker 1: twelve hours. She was like, so you'd be up till

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Speaker 1: if you were to win it, it would be from

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Speaker 1: six pm to six am. I'm like yeah. I was like, now,

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you I'm gonna win it. There's gonna

498
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Speaker 1: be you know, hundreds of people in this. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of them professional poker players. She was like,

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Speaker 1: what would you do for the show. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'll drive back home in the morning. I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'll bring my suit with me just in case. Like

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Speaker 1: and I don't know what I would have told as one.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, internet went out, I gotta do it. Would

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Speaker 1: be a skype, I'm not sure, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: I want to do this. She's like, do it. So

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Speaker 1: I took my daughters, went to this hotel in Jersey,

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Speaker 1: get there around four, check in, get set up. They

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Speaker 1: go down to the pool. I log into the tournament.

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Speaker 1: It's pot limit Omaha. If people want to check it,

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Speaker 1: check out the so they know I'm not lying to

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Speaker 1: the thousand dollars to enter Pot limit Omaha. Circuit event

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Speaker 1: from Sunday from Father's Day play And by the way,

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Speaker 1: it's unlimited rebus for the first four hours, So that

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Speaker 1: means if you get knocked out, you want to pay

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Speaker 1: another thousand, and you get back in, get knocked out,

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Speaker 1: you can come back in. So there's only so I though,

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Speaker 1: I'm like man, I'm gonna fire one bullet and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go as deep as I can. Girls, get back

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Speaker 1: from the pool. It's eight o'clock, daddy, you're still playing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's order room service. Ten o'clock, daddy, you're still playing.

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Speaker 1: I am turn on a movie. My older daughters seventeen

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Speaker 1: wakes up two in the morning, Daddy, you're still playing.

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Speaker 1: I didn't say this to her. Goddamn right. I am

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Speaker 1: down to twenty five people still playing Collin At four

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Speaker 1: this morning, we're down to the final six people, and

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Speaker 1: you're all, buddy nick right, still in there, and you're

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Speaker 1: all buddy nick Right. Put a sick bluff on a

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Speaker 1: guy to get a nice little chip stack, and then

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Speaker 1: with three people left, I had the least amount of chips.

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Speaker 1: So now we are at three people first places, thirty

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Speaker 1: thousand second places, eighteen thousand third places, thirteen thousand bucks.

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Speaker 1: I've paid one thousand dollars to get in this, and

534
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Speaker 1: this beautiful ring awaiting me. I'm like, I'm gonna win

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Speaker 1: this fucking event, and I better win it quickly because

536
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Speaker 1: I got to get on television in a few hours.

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Speaker 1: And then because it's potlam and omaha, a couple of

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Speaker 1: things went sideways. I actually very briefly at the chip

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Speaker 1: lead and then lost a cooler hand. I don't need

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Speaker 1: to tell a bad beat story. More of the story

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Speaker 1: is I finished in third place, which I was thrilled with.

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Speaker 1: I would have loved to win it, but a third

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Speaker 1: place finished against these pros in a game that's not

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Speaker 1: even my specialty. It's not like I'm a Potlam and

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Speaker 1: omahall specialist. But I've really been studying that game because

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Speaker 1: I wanted to play in these types of events. And

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Speaker 1: it was four thirty in the morning, so I tell

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Speaker 1: my seventeen year old I'm like, hey, you and your sister,

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Speaker 1: you guys sleep. I'll come back and get you. At ten,

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Speaker 1: I drove home, did the TV show, drove back, got them,

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Speaker 1: came back home, did the podcast. It was noon. It's

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Speaker 1: like I even't slept since Saturday. But I did the

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Speaker 1: TV show, I did the podcast. I had a great

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Speaker 1: Father's Day brunch. We went to a bookstore, we got cookies.

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Speaker 1: But I drove to Jersey, played in the poker tournament,

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Speaker 1: did a TV show, did a podcast, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh boy, I gotta go sleep. And Danielle said, are

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Speaker 1: you just gonna sleep till tomorrow. I was like, no,

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00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: I got Cowards podcast in like six hours. That's my day.

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00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: That was a great moment for me though. I'm so

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00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: proud of myself, Colin. I was playing against some of

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Speaker 1: the best of this game in the world, and I

563
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: downloaded the hand history I made. There's one hand I'll

564
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: never know because they don't show it. I might have

565
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: made a bad fold, but I played really well. I

566
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: played really well for twelve hours straight, just decision after decision.

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Speaker 1: For most of your audience, they don't care about this stuff.

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Speaker 1: For me, this is like this is you know, I

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Speaker 1: always kind of wanted to be an athlete, obviously to

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Speaker 1: have the ability to do it. This is my version

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Speaker 1: of it. Like competing against the best in the world

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Speaker 1: for real stakes and seeing how you can do it.

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Speaker 1: And I'll take the third place. I would have loved

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Speaker 1: to win the thing. I'll take third place. Finish well.

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Speaker 1: For you, poker is for you what building a small

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Speaker 1: company is for me. A total high correct. That's exactly right.

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Speaker 1: That is exactly right. Since since I'm yes, these are

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Speaker 1: it's almost like I don't want to say this, like

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Speaker 1: we broadcast two you and I deeply love broadcasting. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we would be us without that. But I

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Speaker 1: also think there is an element of and then we

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Speaker 1: can stop because I'm gonna sound dumb. You have mastered

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Speaker 1: our thing. I haven't mastered it. Certainly on television, I

584
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Speaker 1: was close to mastering in on radio, there was a

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Speaker 1: period of time where and I've said this to you,

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Speaker 1: I say it, and maybe I've said on the pot.

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00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: I don't think, but I'll say it on the pod.

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00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: There is a period of time where I was. Nobody

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Speaker 1: can tell me any differently. I believe I was the

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Speaker 1: second best sports talk radio host in the country. To you,

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Speaker 1: I do believe that there was a period of time.

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Speaker 1: And if I listen, Dan Patrick's amazing, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of Lebotard's amazing. If I'm not. If I wasn't, I

594
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Speaker 1: was on the shortlist, people just didn't know me. But

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Speaker 1: I was great, and I'm getting there in television, I'm improving.

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Speaker 1: But once so, once you've gotten really really good at something,

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Speaker 1: there is an excitement to doing something you're not truly

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Speaker 1: great at yet where there's gonna be mistakes. We're just

599
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Speaker 1: gonna be like, oh, I fucked that up. I learned

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Speaker 1: from this. There is some real excitement to that. And

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00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: for you it's the business thing because you do a

602
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Speaker 1: lot of business stuff, and obviously you're building the volume,

603
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: which is a huge endeavor. And for me it is

604
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Speaker 1: it's not just poker, but it's learning different variations of

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Speaker 1: different games and trying to like because it's all your brain.

606
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Speaker 1: It's just all trying to figure it out. And so yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it. I really truly love it. And so

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Speaker 1: that's how I spent, you know, the latter half of

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Speaker 1: my father's day, and it couldn't have been better. So

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Speaker 1: I was thrilled. I think we're going to turn this

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Speaker 1: into a two parter from the Celtics theory on it's

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Speaker 1: our second part. It's too good for one. It's too

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Speaker 1: good for one. It's seriously, it's too good for one.

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright, you know who he is, follow a shit.

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Speaker 1: I just had a blast. I love it. And volume listeners,

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Speaker 1: I would like you do a couple of things. One

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Speaker 1: is I would like you too a little, you know,

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Speaker 1: cross pollinate. If you're a podcast listener, subscribe to What's

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Speaker 1: the What's Right podcast. Here's the thing I think you'll

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Speaker 1: like it. Here's the other secret thing. If you subscribe

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Speaker 1: I'd like you to listen to it. You don't have to.

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Speaker 1: If you're a YouTube viewer, subscribe to my page as well.

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Speaker 1: But also if you're on social media, tweet to old Draymond, say, Hey,

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright, what's going on a show? I think it

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Speaker 1: would be fun. I think I'm working on. You know,

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Speaker 1: the only guest I've ever had on What's Right is

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Speaker 1: Lil Wayne, So it's gonna be hard, Like who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be our second guest? I would love to have Draymond,

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