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Speaker 1: Metstup listeners back here for episode number seventy four of

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Speaker 1: the met stub podcast, finishing up part two of our

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Speaker 1: Once Upon a Time in Queen's series where we go

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Speaker 1: over the thirty for thirty film. Last episode we did

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Speaker 1: part one, we cut it off right before Game one

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Speaker 1: of the NLCS, So that's what we're gonna finish off

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Speaker 1: with our review and our thoughts of this really really

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Speaker 1: good documentary that ESPN did one of the few things

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Speaker 1: because the stuff that they've been dropping recently is absolutely atrocious.

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Speaker 1: But that's what we're doing this episode. There's still no

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Speaker 1: Mets Baseball. Talk about the next episodes after this should

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Speaker 1: our next episode, which will be a mailbag episode, because

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Speaker 1: feels like enough rambling. Let's bring in James here, mister

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Speaker 1: Jeter had no range.

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Speaker 2: How you doing there, James, you're good man, you know,

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Speaker 2: hanging out February it's a dry month, so.

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Speaker 2: It's terribly. The only thing getting me through February ever

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Speaker 2: is such a glimmer of hope and in otherwise barren

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Speaker 2: No making reverse movements, and just like the minor lock

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Speaker 2: and there's nothing going on. Exciting stuff. Gotta love baseball. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Mike Scott was something of a scuffed ball merchant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: This is not an astross like. This is like just

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Speaker 1: And it seems like Mike Scott might have been doing

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Speaker 1: He literally lived rent free in their head to use

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Speaker 1: like the classic Twitter cliche, Mike Scott had real estate

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Speaker 2: Like that, especially a team that was so prolific on offense.

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Speaker 2: If you even think about last year's postseason, this exact

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Speaker 1: lot of gut decisions and a lot more like pure

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Speaker 1: per se that the way they were playing, where now

434
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Speaker 1: everything's like a very calculated decision and you're doing what's

435
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Speaker 1: gonna you know, give your team the best possible outcome

436
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Speaker 1: based on the numbers, where before you're like Lane Diexter's hot,

437
00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:01,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna hit today.

438
00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just more opportunity for chaos. And everyone

439
00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,600
Speaker 2: loves chaos, especially in sport, because we're watching sport as

440
00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:08,679
Speaker 2: an escape and that's seeing chaos there. It's like, oh,

441
00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,360
Speaker 2: anything can happen. Thats the way people want to feel

442
00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,639
Speaker 2: about their own lives. Yeah, this game was chaos. This

443
00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:14,840
Speaker 2: game was chaos. That stupid nerd came back in to

444
00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:18,480
Speaker 2: pitch a game. What's his name again, Charlie Kerkfield, Charlie Kerkfield,

445
00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,960
Speaker 2: and he intentionally walked Keith to get to Gary Carter,

446
00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,520
Speaker 2: who was one for twenty one in that series, and

447
00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,199
Speaker 2: he came up with the man on second and hit

448
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Speaker 2: a base it up the middle. It finally got through

449
00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,760
Speaker 2: Kurfeld's freaking legs. He got to the first base, pointed out.

450
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Speaker 2: Then we laughed at him, and the Mets had their

451
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Speaker 2: second walk off in three games, second of the entire series.

452
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Speaker 2: Couldn't handle that. Couldn't handle that right now, I would

453
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Speaker 2: die's sense. But also it would be an incredible moment.

454
00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,439
Speaker 2: I would be be high on life. So I mean,

455
00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,000
Speaker 2: even just the Mess being in the NLCS, I'd be

456
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,639
Speaker 2: incredibly high on life. And it happened last time. I

457
00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:51,000
Speaker 2: was very high on life. But it was such like

458
00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,080
Speaker 2: a non series you didn't even really feel it, you know. Yeah,

459
00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,560
Speaker 2: it was a little different. Like the Mess beat the

460
00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,800
Speaker 2: Cubs like it dominated them for four consecutive games. We're like,

461
00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,000
Speaker 2: all right, see, like they let's figure out the next round. Yeah,

462
00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,880
Speaker 2: this was like the World Series. This was insane back

463
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Speaker 2: and forth baseball against a team you hated, against a

464
00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,639
Speaker 2: worthy foe like and you really felt all that bubble

465
00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,880
Speaker 2: over in Game six when Bobby o'heed, the mister ice

466
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Speaker 2: pick elbow, was trying to get back on the mound,

467
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Speaker 2: and he said he woke up the morning of Game

468
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Speaker 2: six some reason the metster we're still in New York,

469
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Speaker 2: which I don't I didn't like that at all. That

470
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Speaker 2: kind of gave me some stress. Or maybe it was

471
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Speaker 2: the day before, but they didn't really talk about the

472
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Speaker 2: timeline that well, and he just couldn't he couldn't feel it,

473
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Speaker 2: and he needed like a very high powered painkiller to

474
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Speaker 2: say he had to pitch that game. And I forgot

475
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Speaker 2: exactly what it was called, but he said he was

476
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,040
Speaker 2: gonna pitch this game no matter what unless his arm

477
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Speaker 2: fell off. So that morning to get that painkiller, he

478
00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:38,680
Speaker 2: took a bus down to Washington, DC. Like for I

479
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,720
Speaker 2: don't even I get. I guess a football doctor. Maybe

480
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:42,679
Speaker 2: I don't know where why the special doctor is at

481
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:44,600
Speaker 2: watching to see that's a sketchy thing in its own right.

482
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Speaker 2: He got the shot, hopped the plane back to New York,

483
00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,920
Speaker 2: and them traveled with the team back to Houston. That's

484
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Speaker 2: not a case, you're right there. That's that psychopath behavior.

485
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Speaker 2: And I know all these guys were psyclepaths. That's real

486
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Speaker 2: psychopath behavior. He took a bus in two planes in

487
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Speaker 2: one day. He woke up in New York when the

488
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Speaker 2: DC came back, and then flew to Houston, and I

489
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,920
Speaker 2: guess it makes sense it was the day before because

490
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,320
Speaker 2: then he tried to warm up the next day. So

491
00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:05,879
Speaker 2: they felt like shit. And there were sad bags in

492
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Speaker 2: his arm, which sounds rough, sounds horrible.

493
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Speaker 1: Have you ever carried sam bags? Yeah, incredibly heavy, shockingly heavy.

494
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 2: It keep the basketball hoops down. Felt like that on

495
00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,199
Speaker 2: his arm and he had to pitch, and then he

496
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:21,200
Speaker 2: gave up three runs of the first inning. It looked like, gosh, shit,

497
00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,840
Speaker 2: here we go again, especially with Mike Scott looming for

498
00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,119
Speaker 2: Game seven. But when Ricagulera got warmed the bullpen, bobbyo

499
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,840
Speaker 2: heat settled down and he just gutted out four zeros

500
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Speaker 2: to get through five innings only giving up three runs.

501
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,480
Speaker 2: Which that's that's a modern baseball move. That's something yeah today.

502
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, just really really gutting it up. And then to

503
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Speaker 1: help clean up that outing, for sure, he stepped up.

504
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,400
Speaker 1: Bobo Hayes stepped up big time.

505
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Speaker 2: No, he didn't. That was he was kind of one

506
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 2: of the uh the unsung heroes of this team, the

507
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 2: many there are because we know about the stars to Keith,

508
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,760
Speaker 2: the Doctor, Darryl, Gary Carter of course, but Babby Oheata

509
00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 2: and a guy who also did this something similar in

510
00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,639
Speaker 2: the World Series Game seven, said Fernandez. This pitching depth

511
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,199
Speaker 2: is something that I hope the modern Mets realize and

512
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 2: take something from. Incredibly important.

513
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Speaker 1: I mean, look at all the teams that have been

514
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,479
Speaker 1: winning recently, what do they all seem to have pitching

515
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 1: depths something you need to be successful.

516
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,159
Speaker 2: Dodgers had nine starting pitchers to start last season. They

517
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 2: ended the World They ended the NLCS with like two

518
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Speaker 2: and a half.

519
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Speaker 1: It's crazy after acquiring Max Schirtzer, after getting the top

520
00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:21,120
Speaker 1: three pitcher in baseball, but regardless, down three nothing going

521
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Speaker 1: into the ninth and then when he goes up in

522
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Speaker 1: the ninth inning, left he lefty As we just talked

523
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Speaker 1: about triple in the gap, Keith had a big at

524
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Speaker 1: bath in the ninth like everything was going right for

525
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Speaker 1: this team in the ninth inning, and.

526
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Speaker 2: Keith had another one of those moments where he said

527
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Speaker 2: he like wasn't confident, he couldn't he didn't know what

528
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 2: to do, he wasn't feeling himself, and he called his

529
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Speaker 2: brother on he said, a payphone in the clubhouse before

530
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,200
Speaker 2: the at bad and he gave him the confidence. He said,

531
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,840
Speaker 2: you got it, you can hit. You're swinging the boll

532
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,480
Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, you're right, they am swinging it. Well.

533
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Speaker 2: Like as as this larger than life character Keith was,

534
00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 2: he had such a fragile lego it's kind of hilarious.

535
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Speaker 2: So he had to like call his family in between

536
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,480
Speaker 2: his at bats to give himself the confidence. And he

537
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,720
Speaker 2: ripped a double and then uh, and then mess Hello,

538
00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,119
Speaker 2: rally a couple of hits here and there, and then

539
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: eventually rain Night sacrifice fly to score their third run

540
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,480
Speaker 2: the ninth inning, tie the ballgame, and then it went

541
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Speaker 2: into an extra inning affair. That this is something that

542
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 2: a lot of people have called one of the greatest

543
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 2: games ever played. Yeah, it was a deep run. They

544
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 2: played what sixteen sixteen innings I think it was, I

545
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,920
Speaker 2: believe it was sixteen innings. And this was a game also,

546
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 2: like the last few games were happening during the day,

547
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 2: so a big part of this documentary now was about

548
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 2: all these people at work in New York because it

549
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: was happening between two and like five o'clock, either stopping

550
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 2: in front of the storefront or running transistor radios in

551
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Speaker 2: the office, or having these little tiny televisions that they

552
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,040
Speaker 2: used to have in the old time days, just like

553
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,119
Speaker 2: huddled in front because it's a World Series birth on

554
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 2: the line here and it's the middle of the fucking

555
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 2: day and a Wednesday or whatever it was.

556
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Speaker 1: Could you imagine being at work or if you're a

557
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: kid being at school and this was happening and you

558
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Speaker 1: just couldn't do anything about it.

559
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,679
Speaker 2: That was its torture. Yeah, because you don't have the internet,

560
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 2: you don't even you don't have a phone. You just

561
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: have to sit there and wonder what's going on in

562
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 2: the Mets game. Like the best chance is like listen

563
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 2: to a radio maybe, and it's like, oh god, you

564
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 2: can't even like sneakals into a radio. Like I'm sure

565
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,080
Speaker 2: we've all had moments and argia generation of like sneaking

566
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 2: sports highlights at school, you know, sitting in high schooler

567
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 2: scrolling on your phone. March managed to put the little

568
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,400
Speaker 2: thing up college Like working at desk job. Modern times,

569
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 2: you can sneak watch anything. You could sit down and

570
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,440
Speaker 2: watch fucking porn to your nine to five. You one

571
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 2: mostly no one's gonna find out about it. But this

572
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 2: you have no possible way of knowing what's going on

573
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 2: in Game six of the NCS. You have none. You

574
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 2: have nothing clue. And then just back to the game,

575
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: like they were all very aware again of Mike Scott

576
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 2: looming for Game seven. Roger McDowell, who just fucking crushed

577
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 2: five innings of scores baseball. Starting in a ninth inning,

578
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 2: he said, if I give up a run, we're gonna

579
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,439
Speaker 2: have to face Mike Scott. Just the fact of a

580
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 2: guy who was like something of a closer, a bit

581
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 2: of like a fireman stopper back in the day, pitching

582
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Speaker 2: five innings another thing that we can never see. Imagine

583
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Speaker 2: Edwin dil lining up for his fifth inning of work.

584
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Speaker 1: Nathan Vivaldi kind of did that for the Red Sox

585
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Speaker 1: in the World Series of recent But he's a starter.

586
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a starter. There's a reason, workhorse. I would

587
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 2: tell her to say, like.

588
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: To be fair though after Evaldi, well, in that game

589
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Speaker 1: of Aaldy pitched what the day before didn't he as

590
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: well or something like that, and two days before and

591
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Speaker 1: then through seven innings in relief like, and it ended

592
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Speaker 1: up even though they lost that game, winning the Red

593
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 1: Sox the World Series because it was so big.

594
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 2: Yea Roger McAll. Actually is gonna prove me wrong right now.

595
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 2: We threw one hundred twenty eight innings that year. Yeah,

596
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: but that's like relievers. Then they did that kind of thing.

597
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,160
Speaker 2: It was still a significant amount of innings. He could

598
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,800
Speaker 2: he could cut out five. That's still very good, but

599
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 2: it means that's it's a little less meaningful. And I thought,

600
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 2: still though, pitching five innings and relief for Game six

601
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: of the NLCS with the best pitcher in baseball having

602
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: to face him the next day, that's fucking sick. Chuck

603
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: D Again, we're gonna talk about him. He has some

604
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: great quotes Public Enemy rapper Chuck D. He said the

605
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: AD I had my spleen on the table, which like,

606
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Speaker 2: I don't know why spleenvoll the organ's to pick like

607
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: my heart, like maybe you're drinking, you're talking about yourliver.

608
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,400
Speaker 2: My spleen was on the table. And then of course

609
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 2: we have the fourteenth inning Mets score run and they

610
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 2: gave it right back, give it right back. It's just

611
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 2: this game was so tense and those documentaries is such

612
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: a good job of showing, like how in the moment

613
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 2: in the balance this game was held and you get

614
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Speaker 2: to the sixteenth inning, the sixteenth inning in a winner,

615
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 2: go home game for the Houston Astros, Like fuck, this

616
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 2: is insane, Like even at Nathan Voaldi game that was sick.

617
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Speaker 2: But that was my game two, Game three, Game four

618
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: or five, I think. But no one was at risk

619
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Speaker 2: of the season being over correct yea, if you're in

620
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 2: a situation here where the season could be over. And

621
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Speaker 2: then uh, Ray Knight put them Ats ahead in the sixteenth.

622
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 2: They wind up scoring three runs and then they had

623
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Speaker 2: Jesse Rosco come up, who was gassed he'd either thrown

624
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: a couple innings in that game, who have been overworked

625
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: in that series, and the Astros score two kind of easily.

626
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 2: They had a couple base runners on A's when Keith

627
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: called his famous Mountain visit then and he uh, he

628
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 2: told Jesse Erosco, if you throw another fastball, I'll kill you,

629
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Speaker 2: which like that's such a great light as well, that

630
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 2: should be a shirt. That should be sure, we should

631
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Speaker 2: make that to a shirt. If you throw another fastball,

632
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 2: I'll kill you. Maybe so if anyone could really get

633
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 2: breaking balls this year in the Mets, and they threw

634
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 2: game three sliders and the game was over, and that's one.

635
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Speaker 1: And the city erupts. And then this is where it

636
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: really gets interesting. We've talked about this before on the podcast,

637
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: but we'll give another, you know, quick little rundown of it.

638
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 2: The flight back home is honestly almost crazier than this

639
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 2: entire game. Yeah, almost the entire series or season as itself.

640
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: While he Becking said it was a great moment in

641
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: the history of aviation, which that's a great quote as well,

642
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 2: pretty quotes, incredible, He used chock full of good quotes

643
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,680
Speaker 2: in this. Tearing down seats, doing copious amounts of drugs,

644
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: the drinking, the women, like this was just a concoction

645
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 2: for disaster. The food fight, yeah, the food fight, like

646
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: they destroyed this plane. And also like we know about

647
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: this from the from a previous episode reading Jeff Peerlman's book.

648
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 2: And then Jeff Promo is actually the only guy who

649
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: was talking about in the dock. Every single player in

650
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 2: this team wouldn't really say anything about it, Like Kevin

651
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 2: Mitchell was like, ah, it was crazy, said Fernande's like

652
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 2: that was a scene lane. Dexter was like, we're doing

653
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 2: a cocaine in this bathroom stall, but no one was

654
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 2: actually gonna describe anything. They were just like we had

655
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: an endles stream of alcohol. Everybody had a good time.

656
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 2: And then the shots of them coming off that plane

657
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 2: fucking hysterical. All the guys are wearing like blazers and

658
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 2: T shirts, like hanging on to their wives, their wives

659
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 2: hanging on to them. It's a fucking legendary scene. That

660
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: was to be a fly on the wall there would

661
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: have been so incredible. I would not I only even

662
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: want to want to be on the plane. That would

663
00:25:58,280 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 2: be scary.

664
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: Well yeah, because like I think you'd be like worried about, like, well,

665
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: maybe we'll distract the pilot and this thing could go

666
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: down at any moment.

667
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: That's Nothing's actually a good point. That's pretty impressive on

668
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: that pilot to not get distracted to get see you

669
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: flying a plane, knowing that everything was going on back there.

670
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: At the aftermath of the plane, every single player had

671
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 2: a different number for how fucked up the plane was.

672
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: I heard like one thousand, two thousand, five thousand, ten thousand.

673
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: No one actually knew. It's all wise tail, It's all

674
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 2: folklore Frank Cash and thought these players had to be professional,

675
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,200
Speaker 2: so you know this and that, and they weren't playing

676
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: a dime. Dami had the famous Davy had the famous quote.

677
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 2: We're gonna make them enough money next four games anyway,

678
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 2: so fuck them. And then getting ready for a World

679
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 2: Series that the Mets were very clearly hungover to start.

680
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're super hungover, and this is gonna lead us

681
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: right into the World Series now against the Boston Red

682
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: Sox that had a pretty unbelievably good team. Like the

683
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 1: Mets were good, the Red Sox have.

684
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 2: Like Hall of famers and great players. Yeah, the team

685
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,439
Speaker 2: Sneaky had four Hall of famers, right, Yeah, well Clemens

686
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: isn't a Hall of Famer, but you got wear Bogs

687
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: hall of Fame quality, Yeah, hall of Fame quality.

688
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: Weight Boggs, je Brice, Dwight Evans, and Don Baylor, who

689
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,480
Speaker 1: were all very very very good players. In Rogers Evans,

690
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: Uh No, Dwight Evans isn't, but he's like one of those.

691
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 1: He's probably in the same class of like you know,

692
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: our Darryl's and Keith kind of thing, like very very

693
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,479
Speaker 1: good players. But that Red Sox team was super strong,

694
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: and Roger Clemins was a big part of it.

695
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Roger Clembins was probably the best pitcher in baseball

696
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: besides Mike Scott this time. He won the Cy young

697
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 2: that year. It looks its mid twenty, so he was

698
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: still a very young pitcher even early twenties. Wade Box

699
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 2: in three sixty in nineteen eighty six, like three sixty,

700
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: like this, this, This is one of the best teams

701
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 2: in baseball. Bill Burr also made a guest appearance here. Yeah,

702
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: looks pretty funny.

703
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: Fun fact, I'm pretty sure Tom Seaver was on this

704
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: Red Sox team during the season, unto like the postseason

705
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: roster which the NOD could you imagine?

706
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: I was always wondering, and I asked my dad this

707
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: over the weekend. He couldn't confirm or deny whether or

708
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: not Tom Seaver was in the dugout during Game six.

709
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: I don't even have a clue, right, Like, I'm assuming

710
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: he would have been if he was on the rosters.

711
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 2: Tom sever well, else he gonna do in October. He's

712
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,639
Speaker 2: not gonna sit there for the World Series in the

713
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: dugout with his teammates. But like, I don't know, because

714
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 2: I know modern times a lot of the guys not

715
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 2: on the roster still hang around that playoff dug gut

716
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 2: would be like fifty deep. But that's always interesting. I

717
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: couldn't even imagine why it hasn't even more publicized, the

718
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: fact that Tom sever could have watched the Mets celebrated

719
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: the World Series like in Shay Stadium. But we'll get

720
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: to that. We'll get to that. Yeah, bottom line, Mets

721
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: went down oh two at home, Doc got crushed again,

722
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: and they seemed like this team without their valiant ace,

723
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: was looking pretty mortal and were behind the eight ball

724
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: going to Boston for three games down oh two. Yeah,

725
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: it was not a great start.

726
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: Like you said, the hangover was real, and it showed

727
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: in their play at the start of the World Series,

728
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 1: like they you know, the miracle Mets is always the

729
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 1: thing that's been coined. They pulled off a miracle to

730
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: win this one as well as we know, not just

731
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: like you know, the jump forward Bill Buckner thing, like

732
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 1: the fact that they.

733
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: Were down oh two.

734
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen too often to end up winning a

735
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: series down.

736
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: Oh two, especially down oh two lost two games at home.

737
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 2: The other team has an ace advantage, like it seems difficult,

738
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 2: but their redstock one big achilles heel was actually pitching depth,

739
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: and the Mets wound up taking advantage of that. But

740
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: it was a cool way. They started episode four of

741
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 2: the doc by showing this world series for the Red

742
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: Sox perspective, because this was a massive world series then too.

743
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: This was this was the best team they had in

744
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 2: the last like forty years of the franchise, thirty years,

745
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: I guess, basically since those strong Ted Williams teams. So

746
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: they were really pining to break a curse. They felt

747
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 2: like they were in a good shot to do it

748
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 2: up two oh with three games at home.

749
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we always forget, like, you know where

750
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: we think about with the Red Sox curse, that you know,

751
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: the two thousands teams. But they had an opportunity, a

752
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: legit chance to do it a lot earlier with this

753
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: eighty six team, and they.

754
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: Were vibing a little bit to start. But luckily let's

755
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 2: kind of woke up a little bit here after these

756
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: first two games. Yeah, yeah, we were talking about how

757
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 2: this era of baseball is more about feel and about

758
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: like attitudes and guys and rather than just like numbers

759
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: and analytics and Davy, sensing this team's vibe, needing the

760
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: newest spark, he hysterically canceled their workout before Game three

761
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 2: of the series on an off day, and he canceled

762
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 2: their immediate availability, and the team was like, wow, this

763
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: is amazing. So I felt like a snow day and

764
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: they jumped out hot.

765
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: I mean Lenny Dyscher a lead off homer, which, man,

766
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: this dude had quite the playoffs for the Bets, like

767
00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: Landry Duscher was a player.

768
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 2: It was a true difference maker. Only even got in

769
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: this team because someone him wook you both in the

770
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 2: face and spring training.

771
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then Mets put up four in the first

772
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: and they did not look back. Gary Carter kindly finally

773
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: got off the schneid and looked like he was a

774
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: capable baseball player again, Like this was a huge game

775
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: the Mets needed. And whether or not it was the

776
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: day off from the media and the workout by Davy Johnson,

777
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: something was going and it completely turned this Mets team around,

778
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: because then we tied it up again and we went

779
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: two two in this series.

780
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, two very dominant games to get this game. Even

781
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 2: you have figure, you have Doc on the mound, you know,

782
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: maybe you can get him off here, get your ace,

783
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: get a lead here, figure things out. But wrong, Doc

784
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 2: got crushed again. Say just felt off. Seems like he

785
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: was just really in a bad spot this entire world series.

786
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 2: Darryl too, Darrell was just having a shit series. All

787
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: around Boston, a racist city as many of us know,

788
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: was chanting and any chant at that cadence that fuck

789
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: anybody up. And even if you're on top of the world,

790
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 2: I'll screw you up. And then Boston kind of jump

791
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: all over them. Now the Mets are down three to two,

792
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 2: needing to win two games at home to final break,

793
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: break this break this world series, and then of course

794
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: leads us to game six. And we know all about

795
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: Game six, but doesn't get talked about enough how well

796
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 2: Babo Haito was for this game. He was absolutely locked in. Yeah,

797
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: and again he still still was pitching with a completely

798
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: roast beef elbow. Here the clubhouse attend and talking about

799
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: Babohat's focus in this game was basically in tears. He

800
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: he was like a chubby dude with glasses in this doc.

801
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: I don't remember his name right now, which I give

802
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: him credit because he was one of the stars of

803
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: this show. He was absolutely awestruck recalling Baboheath's game from

804
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 2: thirty five years ago. Just couldn't even couldn't even think

805
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: about anything else. He was like Bob Man. He was

806
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: so locked in, like no one could break his focus

807
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: that day. And then they cut somehow to George R. R.

808
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: And Martin, the writer of Game of Thrones, massive Mets fan,

809
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: Massive Mets fan lived in the city in the eighties.

810
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 2: He was talking about like how magical it was to

811
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: be in the stands for this game too, saying there's

812
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 2: two things in life that could really hit your emotions

813
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 2: more than a great sporting event. I was like, how

814
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: the fuck they get this guy in here.

815
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: The dude creates universes and he's at the Mets games,

816
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: living dying as a Mets fan.

817
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 2: That gained a lot of respect for me. George R. R.

818
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: Martin, not a big Game of Thrones guy, but you

819
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: know you're Mets fan. Now I might support your work.

820
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean so at worst one of the most

821
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 2: important authors of our generation. But whatever. And even as

822
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 2: this game was going on, I took this note and

823
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: I remember it happening in my head. But I'll remember

824
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: if this was a pregame thing, a mid game thing,

825
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: or a late game thing. But guy in a parachute

826
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 2: just popped onto the field just out of nowhere, came

827
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: out of the Queens the flushing sky and landed in

828
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: the outfield. How the fuck does that happen?

829
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: That's how you knew something was up. Everything goes on

830
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: with the Mets. Man in the parachute. You had the

831
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 1: black Cat against the Cubs. I know it wasn't the

832
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: World Series, but Mets needed a little bit of funky

833
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: stuff to happen to go their way. And that's kind

834
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: of this. The whole vibe of this Game six was

835
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: a little funky.

836
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was still New York in the eighties.

837
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: There was a lot of funkyness going on. Disco was

838
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: pretty hot back then then. But then they get there,

839
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: they're still down bobble heat to pitch well, but they

840
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: really couldn't get off the schneid. They were making errors,

841
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 2: they were misswinging at balls. So I forgot who said

842
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 2: this quote, but someone said it was the worst baseball

843
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: the Mets played that year. It might have been Peerlman

844
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: actually that this World Series was the worst baseball the

845
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: Mets played all year, which is perfect for the way

846
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 2: this Mets team lined up, because you knew they were

847
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 2: just gonna have to fuck something up. They were just

848
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: too brash, they were too arrogant, they were too cocky,

849
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: like something was gonna go wrong. And this seemed like

850
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 2: everything culminating in their demise. After all, everything they said,

851
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 2: everything they've done, it was all seemed like it was

852
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: good about to be for nothing.

853
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: But luckily, the Red Sox yanked Clemmons after seven for

854
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: kind of seemingly no reason, and in came Calvin Schiraldi,

855
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: the most scorned man on the face of the earth,

856
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: the most salty man, and comes into the game, and

857
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: what do you know, Mets tied up real quick, three

858
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: to three, and you start to see why Calvin Sharldi's

859
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,479
Speaker 1: just a little upset about what happened.

860
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can't really blame Calvin Charaldi's because he

861
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: didn't put himself in the game. John McNamara, the manager

862
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: of the Red Sox, no real old timey guy. He

863
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 2: seemed to fuck them his own team every chance he couldn't.

864
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 2: And then after the Red Sox scored too quickly in

865
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: the top of the tenth inning to really seem like

866
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 2: step on the Mets throats. He decided for some reason

867
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: to leave first baseman incredible first basement, hell of a career. Guys,

868
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: better ball players ever gotten credit for Bill Buckner in

869
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: the game, even though every single game of that series,

870
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: almost every single game of that postseason, he had taken

871
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: Bill Buckner out before the last inning for defensive replacement

872
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 2: because the guy had no knees, he couldn't play. We've

873
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: seen the Mets do. Teams of baseball do that all

874
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 2: the time. Take guy out, J J. Davis. I pray

875
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: the guy never plays in ninth inning at third face

876
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: this coming season. I don't care who else on the roster,

877
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 2: but can't be J. J. Davis playing playing the field

878
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 2: ninth inning with the lead. And they, apparently the couple

879
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: guys in the team got in his face for it,

880
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: like what are you doing with you leaving Bill in

881
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: the game? For this is a tight game, Like we

882
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: can't risk anything. And mcnamaray said he wanted to win

883
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 2: this one with his guys on the field. And boy,

884
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 2: those famous last words.

885
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, they couldn't be foreshadowing much because there was no

886
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: winning that went on in this field. Of course, we

887
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: know what ends up happening at the end, but this

888
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: inning started off pretty interesting as well. We got Wally

889
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: but Backman who uh got out to start off the eating.

890
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: The Mets were down with one out real quick and

891
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: they still kept pushing yep.

892
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 2: And then Keith Hernandez came up and he also got out.

893
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,879
Speaker 2: So now Mets have two out and nobody on down

894
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: two runs in Game six of the World Series. And

895
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 2: during this that bad walking up to the plate leaving

896
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: after a nice flyout, Keith looked in the dugout and

897
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: he saw again Keith knows his everything that Roger Clemens

898
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 2: was clean shaven, but he knows from phrasing Roger in

899
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 2: the series and just knowing Roger as a player that

900
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 2: Roger Clemens used to never shave him between his starts.

901
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: He's a shave the day after. So every time he'd pitched,

902
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 2: they have a five day grizzle, as Keith called it.

903
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: And Keith looked at dugout and he saw that Roger

904
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: Clemens had shaved within the last inning. He was like,

905
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 2: this fucking guy. He wanted to be clean for the pictures.

906
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: This guy wanted to be looked nice for the celebration. Here,

907
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 2: and that did not sit well with Keith. And in

908
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: that same play, as he noticed that Dave Henderson a

909
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: very classic clip in baseball lore, he made a little

910
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 2: hop when he caught the fly ball. He like kind

911
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 2: of showed bowed it a little bit, and his Red

912
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 2: Sox team was completely they had won the World Series.

913
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 2: They were already won the World Series, and it seemed

914
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: like it did piss some guys off. Here poked a

915
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: sleeping bear. Yeah, it really pissed Keith off because he

916
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: took off his uniform. He sat in Dave's and Davy's

917
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 2: office after that and he's something he said he's still

918
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: not proud of. But apparently back in that clubhouse, kind

919
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: of while seeing people were drinking beers, smoking cigarettes, taking

920
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: their jerseys off, just kind of lamenting the fact that

921
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: they had blown this incredible thing. Yep. And on the

922
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 2: other side of that, the Red Sox clubhouse, the media

923
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: was getting completely ready for the celebration. They cover the lockers,

924
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: they had the shirts that has ready. The carts of

925
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: booze were in there because when you're the home team.

926
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: He got us to play the booze. That same clubhouse

927
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: attendant who was our star He was like, oh is

928
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 2: this was hell? Man? I had to get all this

929
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: shit ready, all the World Championship stuff, got to Champagne

930
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: ready in our building. I hated it.

931
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: And then Gary Carter steps up to the plate, hated

932
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: making the last out. We talked about how much of

933
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: a heart o Gary Carter was and made sense because

934
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: again he did not want to be that guy to

935
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: make the last out for the Red Sox to win

936
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: the World Series. And they even flashed the Red Sox

937
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: congratulations to the Red Sox across the scoreboard briefly a

938
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: little prematurely weird. Also at Chay Stadium.

939
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: That's the most effective reverse hecks has ever been done

940
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: in human history.

941
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Whoever that guy is, we need his vibes at City

942
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: Field next year.

943
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: Yeah right, They should have interviewed him. Who's working the scoreboard?

944
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: Who reversed hecks the Red Sox secing congratulations on the

945
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: World Series Championship. Gary went on to rope a single

946
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 2: and there was hope, yes, and every single person went

947
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: up to the first base coach Billy Robinson gave him

948
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: the two finger tap. It was like, not making the

949
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: last out, yes, not making the last out. I'm not

950
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: making the last fucking out was actually what they were

951
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 2: all saying, Uh, it was funny. Then next the next

952
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: bather they I remember who he was pinched it for,

953
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 2: but the annow it's Kevin Mitchell to pinch either. And

954
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: he was shocked because this era of baseball, rookies don't

955
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 2: come up to pitch it. In Game six of the

956
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 2: World Series with the h with the game on the line,

957
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: he was one of these guys in the dugout in

958
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: the clubhouse with that was jersey on. So the attender

959
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 2: ran in was like, you Can'tvin, you're up. He was like, what, Yeah,

960
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 2: to put his jersey back on, zip up his pants,

961
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: get warm really quickly, probably put out his fucking cigarette,

962
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: kill his beer. And he came up there facing his

963
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: old uh, his old roommate, Calvin Shiraldi. They used to

964
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: lift together an a ball and apparently Shiraldy, being the

965
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: kind of a handbone he was, he always used to

966
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: tell Kevin Mitchell how we'd get him out. We'd grill

967
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 2: him with the fastballs in and then give him sliders outside.

968
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 2: And Kevin Mitchell said he kind of recalled him he

969
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: never thought would actually be true. And the first pitch

970
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: was a fast ball, and he was like, holy shit,

971
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: he's gonna throw me a slyer outside, and he threw

972
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: him a slider outside. He jump popped right over a

973
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: second Bayson his heads opening as easy single and again

974
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: not making the last fucking out no, And then they

975
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: continued to leave shiraldy in, which like did make sense

976
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 2: because like the dude clearly didn't have it. It's not

977
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: like he was pitching great and just got unlucky, like

978
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 2: he was kind of the only reason they were still

979
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: in this game. It's also not like he was a

980
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: particularly great pitcher even at that. He seems to just

981
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: be a guy, a relief pitcher in the gaze, which

982
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: is not someone who was a failed star there. But

983
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: boy was he so bitter. He's so upset about what happened.

984
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: Granted I would be too.

985
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: It's probably like one of the most like down moments

986
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: for his career outside of originally being traded from this

987
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: Mets team. But like who this documentary, I honestly don't

988
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen someone as bitter as Calvin Shiraldi.

989
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: Now me neither. He was like one of the stars,

990
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: one of the stars. And then Keith had another one

991
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: of the best quotes of this episode. It's something that

992
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: all Mets fans, all real sports fans. If you're a

993
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: real fan, you feel this when you're sitting somewhere, you're

994
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 2: doing something and things start to go well, you can't

995
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: move if you're not going anywhere. Keith was like, this

996
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,959
Speaker 2: chair has hits. I gotta stay in the clubhouse because

997
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: this chair has hits.

998
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: I had a friend in college sophomore year when the

999
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: Mets made the run. He came to our house when

1000
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: they lost to the Red Sox and like hung out

1001
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: watched or not lost to.

1002
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: The Red Sox lost to the Dodgers.

1003
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: He was a Red Sox fan when they lost in

1004
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,319
Speaker 1: the DS and I told him he was not allowed

1005
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: to come over the next day, Like we had like

1006
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: an open door thing, like you just kind of come

1007
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: over when you want. We'll all be hanging out watching.

1008
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: I texted him. I was like, you can't come to

1009
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: the next you can't come tomorrow, Like there's a big game,

1010
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: you can't be here. They lost, Like I'm not doing.

1011
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 2: That again, and I felt horrible, but you gotta do

1012
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: what you gotta do to win games. I had something

1013
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: super dissimilar happened to me in the twenty fifteen run

1014
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 2: what I met through a friend of a friend, a

1015
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: dude at the bar. We had a great time watching

1016
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 2: the Mets pulled out a crazy game in Game one

1017
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: against the Dodgers. I think they've right had to clutch hit.

1018
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: There was the Mets one like miraculously sitting away. I

1019
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: told my friend Ryan at the time, I didn't really

1020
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: know him. I was like, we gotta watch all these

1021
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: games again, and now then that's fucking want to playoff game.

1022
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: And he's become one of the best friends of my life. Yeah,

1023
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 2: so just because of the Mets superstition is very real.

1024
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: It's key. And then back to the game. Right now,

1025
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: you had a tough at bat, a little two strike single,

1026
00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: score the run, Kevin mitchewand up at third base and

1027
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: g two finger tap at first base, not making the

1028
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: last fucking out. And then once the Mets scored the run,

1029
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: everyone kind of looked around and were like, all right,

1030
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 2: we can actually do this now. Gary Carter immediately because

1031
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: he scored that run, God the doug got sat down

1032
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 2: and put his shin guards on. That's been Every single

1033
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 2: guy was like, that was big. Now we believed if

1034
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 2: Gary thinks we're having another inning, We're gonna have another

1035
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 2: fucking inning.

1036
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: That's a big that's a move as a former catcher,

1037
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: putting on the shing guards and when your team's down,

1038
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: just like, oh we got this.

1039
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: There's that's big balls right there. As big boss team leader,

1040
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 2: that's wy I gotta have a good catcher. Good catches

1041
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: hard though. Finally, after giving up a run, John McNamara

1042
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: pulls Calvin Schraldi out of the game and they bring

1043
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: in Bob Stanley, who, as Bill Burst said, looked like

1044
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 2: he couldn't even do one sit up. He was like,

1045
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: he has growny shoulders and a big belly. He couldn't

1046
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: do anything. Why is this guy or closer in the

1047
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 2: World Series? Go within, there's still any confidence? I love

1048
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: Bill Burr. He's also bil Burt's hysterical might see in

1049
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 2: the summer, Yes we might.

1050
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: And then Mookie comes up and he had that insane

1051
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,719
Speaker 1: at bat where he just would not go down, not

1052
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: like a center fielder that we similarly saw later on

1053
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: in our lives.

1054
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: We don't even mention that much more, but an incredible

1055
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: at bat foul off. How many he fell off? Like

1056
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: ten pitches or something like that. He was like twelve

1057
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: or thirteen because he fouled off a certain amount and

1058
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 2: then eventually bob standing through a ball behind him, Kevin

1059
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 2: Mitchell standing on third base, he comes home. Now it's

1060
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: a tie game, Knife, you do whatever the fuck you want.

1061
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: Place goes insane, place goes wild. Imagine imagine the tying

1062
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: run the World Series game on elimination is from a

1063
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: wild pitch.

1064
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: After ten pitches of a bad tenh Ray foul balls.

1065
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: That's a thrilling, thrilling at bat. And then of course

1066
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: the pressure is off.

1067
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: You can't lose. Now the game is at least going

1068
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 2: to the next inning. And he just kept foul more

1069
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: balls off. You can't get mount balls, more balls, more balls.

1070
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 2: And everyone knows how that at bad ended. Right, Three

1071
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 2: ribblers legs up the line. Yeah, they did a great

1072
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: job of shooting this. Two in the dock. They had

1073
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: like different angles. They showed more of Mookie running, more

1074
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: of Ray Knight rounding second, and then eventually they showed

1075
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: the one angle from Bill Buckner behind him and the

1076
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 2: ball just very narrowly skipping behind his glove. Then Ray

1077
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: Knight said, I felt like I was on a magic

1078
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: carpet out their bays coming in from second because it

1079
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: got there in the wild pitch, the score and that

1080
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: dribbler and then they all show like the mash bit

1081
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 2: home play, Gary Carter is moshing at home play in

1082
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: full Catcher's gears, chest protecture and everything. Which again, okay,

1083
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: Gary Carter gave it. Still confidence everybody, I was gonna say.

1084
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 2: And there was what like fifteen sixteen pitches that could

1085
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 2: have ended the Mets season. It could have been done.

1086
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: I mean they were down two outs, but their first

1087
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: two batters, they were in a huge hole. And somehow

1088
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: they came out of this with a win, not even

1089
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: just to go to extras with a win Like that's

1090
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: you understand why US Mets fans love like miracle Mets,

1091
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: the magic, Like we believe in this stuff because look

1092
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 2: at what we've done in the history of our time.

1093
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: There's not a lot of winning, but what we do,

1094
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense. I've almost had Also, this

1095
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 2: was extras. This was a tenth ending when this happened,

1096
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 2: but not even going in any further. Yeah, three runs

1097
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: rather than two, it's just end the game. But I

1098
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 2: have this theory that the Mets have always not been

1099
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: able to win consistently because every time they have won,

1100
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: it has been like by the graces of gods, like

1101
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: it has been such miraculous, believing in karmas not superstitches,

1102
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: but I'm a little stitches here, Like the Mets winning

1103
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: their two World Series were so insane that like it

1104
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: was gonna be a while. It's all happened again, Like

1105
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: you get a ball through guys likes like you could

1106
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: wait a little while. I think I will mess expect

1107
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,360
Speaker 2: that was fair. We win in spectacular fashion. When we

1108
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: do it, it's it's stories to tell for lifetimes. We

1109
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: have twenty or thirty years of chaos and then we

1110
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: win a miraculous World Series. Like that's how I want.

1111
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: I would rather that than have of the boring baseball.

1112
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: Then to be like competitive and like lose in the

1113
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: championship Series every year and then like win one in ten. Now,

1114
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: give me a crazy story, give me a give me

1115
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 1: one that I'm gonna tell my kids and they're gonna

1116
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: tell their kids.

1117
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: I'd hate to be a fan of a team. I

1118
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: don't know what city they play in, but who just

1119
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: you know, go the Championship Series here and there you

1120
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 2: win one out of ten rings. You know it wouldn't

1121
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: be that fun last decade. Yeah, gross, great, what a

1122
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 2: great story they have We won another one?

1123
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: Wow?

1124
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: Fun all right? And then just mention quickly the hilarious

1125
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: scenes of that, because now you have moments to clear

1126
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: this press uh, this press uh, gather locker room out

1127
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: because you had what six pitches in between the Mets

1128
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: being down by one, the Mets winning the game, and

1129
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: after everything was completely set up, we have to pull

1130
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: down plastic takeaway hats, take away shirts, roll out the

1131
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: boot carts, and you cannot even you could not for

1132
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: a moment allow one thing to be in there when

1133
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: the Red Sox got back, and luckily they did. I

1134
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: was a good job by that press team. Look everything

1135
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: woul looked pretty good. If I was a player and

1136
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: I saw a sulf, I would destroy it. It would

1137
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: be I would punch somebody in the face, probably that

1138
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: press attended who's crying telling the tale? That poor guy.

1139
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: And then now we have game seven, which like, how

1140
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 2: do you even play game seven? After that last game?

1141
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: Like it almost feels like the Mets should have been

1142
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 1: let down. They shouldn't have one Game seven.

1143
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: It's funny because I feel like if you ask most

1144
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: Mets fans and I was like this, well, I was

1145
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 2: still like a child, you would have thought they won

1146
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: the World Series on that Bill Buckner play like, I'm

1147
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 2: sure even today you ask a Met fan who's under

1148
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: the age of twenty five, I'm sure like at least

1149
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 2: fifty percent of I think that's how the World Series ended.

1150
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 2: I could believe that.

1151
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: I bet you there's a lot of casual I would say,

1152
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: the casual Mets fans, if you're a DieHarder go into games.

1153
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: I doubt like the casual Met fan checked the box

1154
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: score every once in a while out they're in second place,

1155
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 1: all right, I guarantee you that, Yeah, that fifty percent

1156
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: of them would probably think that the Mets won the World.

1157
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 2: Series that night. Definitely even more of a blue ball.

1158
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 2: The original Game seven that was supposed to be that

1159
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: Sunday was rained out, Like I don't even remember a

1160
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: playoff game getting rained out ever, ship myself and my

1161
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 2: dad tells a funny story because he was taking, uh

1162
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 2: he was night school at the time, and he was

1163
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: really jacked up to watch Game seven on a Sunday,

1164
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 2: and then Game seven ended up being on a Monday,

1165
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: he had class. He was like, what the fuck are

1166
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 2: we gonna do? He gotta miss that class? Yeah, it's

1167
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 2: that's a must miss situation. And then uh, Ronnie Darling

1168
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 2: came out here to pitch again. He had bad playoffs.

1169
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 2: Red Socks jumped all over him, which a lot of

1170
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: creds to the Red Sox for battling early after that

1171
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: ridiculous loss, like it shows a lot of a guile

1172
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 2: from that team. Guy out they would eventually show not

1173
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 2: to have but you know, good for them. And Ronnie

1174
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: actually got knocked out his game in the fourth inning.

1175
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 2: So this was twice in two series that Ronnie basically

1176
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 2: blew a very important game. And it's kind of crazy.

1177
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 2: The Mets got nothing from their two best pitchers in

1178
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 2: a World Series and still found themselves in this position.

1179
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: And Sid Fernandez an unsung hero of this team two

1180
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: hundred strikeouts in the year, which I mean a hell

1181
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: of a lot of strakouts. Nights in eighty six, he

1182
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 2: came in, He calmed everything down and got it out

1183
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 2: multiple very strong innings to keep the Mets in it,

1184
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: to keep everybody contained as a baseball player.

1185
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: The one thing that all our coaches used to just

1186
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: instill do ahead, like one of those lame cliches, right,

1187
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: You can't let a team hang around, and Sid Fernandez

1188
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: kept the Mets hanging around because that's dangerous. You keep

1189
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: within striking distance. All takes a couple hits and everything

1190
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: can change. You got to bury a team when you

1191
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: got a chance. That's why I like those like shutdown

1192
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: innings after putting up like three or four so big,

1193
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: and the Mets just hung around until they were able

1194
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: to get it going.

1195
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: And Keith Hernandez was a big part of that. Yep,

1196
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 2: Keith Nandez got a big two run single with the

1197
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: bases low. His brother's sitting right behind Home Place, said

1198
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 2: he made that contact game a point before, so again,

1199
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: Keith gotta be nice to Keith, Gotta make sure Keith confident.

1200
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: Gary Carter came up next, blew the single and Keith

1201
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 2: misread the ball and it's kind of fun. He got

1202
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: thrown at second base, kind of killed what could have

1203
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: been a massive rally. But still the game was tied

1204
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 2: three to three, and now Sid Fernandez's cruising and what's

1205
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 2: a brand new ball game with Colvin Shiraldi back in

1206
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 2: the game, who immediately gives up a big home run

1207
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: to Ray Knight.

1208
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: To take the lead, and the Mets eventually go six

1209
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: to three and the Sox score what a couple more

1210
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: off of sim Fernandez a little bit later in the game.

1211
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: Then Rosco comes in, gets out of big trouble and

1212
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: the Mets keep the lead going into what the ninth inning.

1213
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was a leader, but the Mets would

1214
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 2: not relinquish. They were only up one at the time,

1215
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 2: so it was six' Five And Daryl strawberry came up

1216
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: in the eighth inning or, yeah the eighth, inning and

1217
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,919
Speaker 2: gay after he was double switched out Of game. Six

1218
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: no one really talks about, it But Daryl strawberry was

1219
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 2: taken out of that. Game he was, very very offended

1220
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: That David johnson did, that and he wasn't wasn't a

1221
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: part of that rally at. All this, said it never

1222
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: happened to him in his entire life playing, baseball and

1223
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: he was. Pissed and he came up in the eighth

1224
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: and he had a big insurance home run to give

1225
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: them as a two run, lead and everyone kind of

1226
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: felt like this was it finally, happened and he was

1227
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: pissed At. Davy he didn't really ever embrace him after.

1228
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 2: That ray AND i came up to him because he

1229
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:34,439
Speaker 2: hit behind. Him the others like a, guy Give davy.

1230
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: Hug you gotta Give davy. Hug but apparently just really

1231
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: Zapped Daryl strawberry's confidence and, really uh made him upset

1232
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 2: That david would have done that to, him really when

1233
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: he was probably just a baseball. Decisions he was playing so. Poorly,

1234
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: yeah and it ended up being probably a good decision as.

1235
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,799
Speaker 1: WELL i, Mean daryl was struggling all at all times

1236
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: during the, year as we, know we talked about how

1237
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: he had he was going through all that mental. Stuff

1238
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: it seemed like he was just in a, very very

1239
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: lost place and it was showing in his. Play so,

1240
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: YEAH i CAN i can completely see how that double

1241
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: switch could have taken them. Out but like you, said

1242
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 1: that home, run that was, Huge that was. Big the

1243
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,839
Speaker 1: attitude though it didn't really seem to recover ever from.

1244
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: That. No, yeah but, yeah that's that's a that's a

1245
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: minor story because now The mets are three outs away

1246
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 2: from winning The World, series and after the hoopla that

1247
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: happened when The mets won The National League east at.

1248
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: Home just when that thing, began some outh started for

1249
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: rolling off the. Table horse cops just came in from

1250
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 2: the outfielder lining, balls base, lines just daring the fans

1251
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: to do something, stupid daring. THEM i don't know what it,

1252
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: is but something about horse cops is incredibly. Intimidating oh

1253
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 2: of course they could kill you with outher. Gun it's

1254
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 2: just like so menacing and so. Intimidating LIKE i even

1255
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: think of.

1256
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: THIS i don't think there were, cops but even IN,

1257
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: elf when they're like riding the horses Through Central, Park i'm.

1258
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: Like they're the bad. Guys they're they're, Evil like there's

1259
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: a menacing. Feel it's like the old like uh like

1260
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: like the old war, Scenes like you got to see

1261
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: the big commander on the. Horse it's a little, scary

1262
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: little scary. Thing and again horse horse could just fuck you,

1263
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: up step on and you course count annihilate. You you

1264
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: wouldn't even. Know and the cop has plausible, deniability and

1265
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 2: then of course we have like get ready for. This

1266
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 2: if you don't know about this guy is the smoke.

1267
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 2: Bomb with two outs up in the game or two

1268
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: outs in the, GAME i would shit imagine freezing just

1269
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 2: pausing the, game flares went out to go to win

1270
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 2: The World, Series flares all over the. Place didn't even

1271
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: stop the game for the. Flares people are just firing

1272
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,959
Speaker 2: flares in the Schae stadium. Sky that's like some stuff

1273
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 2: you've seen in Like greek, soccer not At Chase. Stadium

1274
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: this was actual, chaos like his entire season was. Chaos

1275
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: and with one, out two as in ninth, inning the chaos.

1276
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 2: Continued Then Jesse rosco got the last out through the

1277
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: glove up in the. Air the legend goes never comes.

1278
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: Down The mets fucking won The World. Series it's up

1279
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 2: there in the sky With Bobby schmurder's. HAT i, mean

1280
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 2: like it just we don't know if it ever. Landed

1281
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 2: he threw that thing so. High that was like your.

1282
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,959
Speaker 1: History it's one of the iconic moments Of mets, history

1283
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: is that glove. Fling and, uh like you, said they

1284
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: won The World series like they should, have but then

1285
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: they shouldn't, have and then they somehow.

1286
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 2: Did it's just that's how The mets always. Are, yeah

1287
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: and just chaos And sue's celebration of a. Lifetime somehow

1288
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: The giants were playing money in that football when The

1289
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 2: mets clinched The World series like. That that's. Bad that's bad.

1290
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: PLANNING i know there was a. Rain now no one

1291
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: expected SERIES i guess to go seven, games but holy,

1292
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,439
Speaker 2: shit how could those two things both beyond the same.

1293
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 2: Time there's gotta be flex games. There i'd love to

1294
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 2: see what the what the ratings were for That giants.

1295
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: Game On monday Night football and The mets were In

1296
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 2: game seven of The World. Series Fucking christ But rain

1297
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: AND i won THE. Mvp he was the unsung here

1298
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 2: of this. Team and later that day or the next,

1299
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: MORNING i said it happened like very immediately after, that

1300
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 2: he really wanted to come back to the, team and

1301
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: he really wanted a two year deal because he knew

1302
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: he had two more years in him and he wanted

1303
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 2: to finish his career at The. Mets And Frank cashing

1304
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: literally the day before The World series parade was. Stetfast

1305
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,439
Speaker 2: you only give him a one year contract The World

1306
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: series MVPs one of the leaders of this. Team i'm

1307
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 2: sure it was for like a difference of like nine thousand.

1308
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 2: Dollars baseball contracts looked like back. Then BUT i was

1309
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: really set a tome for would be an awful winter

1310
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: for The. Mets, yeah he's a very shrewd old, man

1311
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: That Frank cash and very. Shrewd great, Word frank cashim

1312
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: shrewd in a bad. Way you could be good, shrewd,

1313
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 2: yes like make good, decisions be. Cunning but he was

1314
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 2: not good. Shrewed he was just he was a mean.

1315
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: Guy then we Have bobby And keith who were out

1316
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: gallivanting around the town and they missed the beginning of the.

1317
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 2: Parade it's, LIKE, i, HONESTLY i can't blame. HIM i

1318
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 2: was a. Player i'm missing the beginning of the. Parade

1319
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: there's no Way i'm there to. Start keith had a

1320
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: wild line Or Bobby wilde. LINE i was, like, yeah my,

1321
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:08,680
Speaker 2: UH i didn't tell my first wife WHERE i was that.

1322
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: Night these guys are fucking crazy, people and they were

1323
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 2: the way they say there was two million people at the,

1324
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: parade two point two million. People they said it was

1325
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: a hurricane of. Humanity that sounds like a lot of.

1326
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: Fun that sounds like also can't happen now in the

1327
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 2: current day. SITUATIONS i think that's wor world say something

1328
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: similar happened. Ed, koch the mayor Of New, york was

1329
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: a Big mets fancy Ed, Cotch Queensboro, Bridge queen's guy

1330
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 2: who's wearing the Blue mets. Cap he was really he

1331
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: seemed like he might have been drunk. Too he was freaking.

1332
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: Out he was so. Happy but No doc at the,

1333
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: parade which is super. Interesting darryl's wife shut up with

1334
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,799
Speaker 2: a black. EYE i mean there was still she put

1335
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: her she put her hair over half of her.

1336
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: Face, yeah there was still some some stuff going, on

1337
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: especially Because doc not showing, up like being, late, different

1338
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: not showing up like there was genuine concern about what

1339
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: was going on With.

1340
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: Doc, definitely and they go into this very deeply in

1341
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,080
Speaker 2: the documentary About doc And, darryl specifically from a few years,

1342
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: ago when if Any mets fans like this one hasn't

1343
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 2: seen that, one they should definitely watch that one because

1344
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: it's a very good doc really more so about those

1345
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 2: two guys rise and, fall their, childhood their career by

1346
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 2: after The, mets a lot of their life since. Then

1347
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 2: but he basically right after they won The World, series

1348
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 2: had some champagne the, clubhouse called his drug, dealer went

1349
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 2: to a, crackhouse got too high and didn't celebrate at.

1350
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: All he woke up with the parade on television that,

1351
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 2: day and this team thought like maybe he could have

1352
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: possibly owed either. Something they were like that afraid because

1353
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: that's what was going on With doctor the. Time it

1354
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,799
Speaker 2: just Both doc And daryl just felt like both these

1355
00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 2: guys were never really a part of this team during

1356
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 2: this year as much as they could have been or

1357
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 2: should have.

1358
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: Been, yeah and it seemed like once The World series,

1359
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: HAPPENED i mean it was kind of the decline of

1360
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: all these guys.

1361
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: A little bit too as.

1362
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: Well they were never really the same player and This

1363
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 1: mets team was never really the same after The sady

1364
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: six season, two and then they treated Like Kevin mitchell

1365
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: right after, too like they were just kind of they

1366
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: Wanted and it seemed Like Frank casher was, like all,

1367
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: right well that's kind of.

1368
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: It, yeah The mets being cheap as The mets was, wearing,

1369
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,520
Speaker 2: Well i'm not gonna pay a guy for an increase

1370
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: salary increasemsn get rid of. Him Kevin. Mitchell they kind

1371
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 2: of had to dump one Of, Kevin doc Or daryl

1372
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: Because Frank casher just believed that this, man any young

1373
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 2: black men together was a recipe for, disaster because it

1374
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 2: seemed like he might have had a you, know some some.

1375
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: UNDERTONES a lot of the moves he was making gives

1376
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,959
Speaker 2: us some creedence to some of the things That George

1377
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 2: foster was. Saying But Lenny, dyster WHO i believe Everything

1378
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: Layne dyster says in this in This, realm he said

1379
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 2: That Kevin mitchell never ever smoked or did drugs or

1380
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 2: drank or did. Anything it just like seemed like they

1381
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: wanted to get rid of one of, them and he

1382
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 2: was the most logical one because his value was as relative.

1383
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: Height, yeah The George foster, comments maybe he had a, point,

1384
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: yeah a little.

1385
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 2: Bit and then For Kevin, mitchell they Got kevin. McReynolds

1386
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,040
Speaker 2: Who kevin For, kevin which kind of. Funny they got

1387
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: a new infielder to replace right night their basement and

1388
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 2: everything that everyone's always said About kevin mcgreald's that he

1389
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 2: was a great, player but just seemed like he didn't like.

1390
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: Baseball he always like used to talk about how much

1391
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: he was looking forward to the end of the year

1392
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: so we could. Hunt that's Like adam.

1393
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: Done Adam tone used to talk about how much he

1394
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,399
Speaker 1: loved fishing and that he only played baseball really because he's,

1395
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: Like i'm good at.

1396
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 2: It but, LIKE i just don't really like it that. Much,

1397
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah kevin mcgreid seemed like more the. Same and This

1398
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: mets team was so baseball late and they were so

1399
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 2: competitive and so freakish that this guy came in just

1400
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 2: immediately did not really gel and was kind of more

1401
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 2: the same for the rest of that team that. Year,

1402
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 2: Remember Howard johnson got a prominent role also starting nineteen eighty.

1403
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: Seven he also was a guy who people have said

1404
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 2: was not didn't have the same type of like emotion

1405
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,320
Speaker 2: in baseball as a lot of other guys. Did and

1406
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 2: they lost two guys And Kevin mitchell And Ray, knight

1407
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,800
Speaker 2: who were real tough, guys real hard nos really loved the.

1408
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: Game and then the nineteen eighty seven season began things

1409
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: immediately everyone knew weren't the. Same and Then doc immedly

1410
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 2: also went to Rehab april of that, year which was

1411
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 2: something that probably should have been happening before. That, davey

1412
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: WHICH i can't, believe said he didn't even have an

1413
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 2: inkling anything like this was going. On, yeah that's, crazy

1414
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: that's that's. Insane it just kind of seems like they

1415
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 2: failed this. Guy you Know darryl. Too it doesn't, REALLY

1416
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 2: i don't, know not that. Cool and then they had

1417
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: a mediocre season and then the market crash in nineteen eighty.

1418
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 2: Seven it kind of sent In New york into a

1419
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 2: bit of a. Tizzy the team was good in eighty,

1420
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 2: eight but they weren't really the. Same keith And daryl

1421
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: had a couple, spats McDowell And dykes were a trade

1422
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 2: to The phillies that. Year mookie wound up on The Blue.

1423
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,839
Speaker 2: Jays all these guys got. Moved it kind of felt

1424
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: like the cheap O, mets like not paying up for

1425
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 2: the guys who got them.

1426
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: There and what's even crazier is that they actually should

1427
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: have been in The World. Series that you're like The, mets,

1428
00:54:58,480 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: like while it didn't have the same, field they still

1429
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 1: were pretty. Good but they lost in the eighty EIGHT

1430
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: nlcs against The dodgers Because Mike, soosha who hit like

1431
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: a career fourteen home, runs hit a walk off home

1432
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: run or hit a go ahead home run whatever it.

1433
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: WAS i think it was go ahead, Maybe and that

1434
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 1: was like the nail on the coffin That Mike soosha

1435
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: hit the home, run and that was like kind of

1436
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: the end of These, mets which is kind of crazy

1437
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 1: to think about because they came in so hot and

1438
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: it was just kind of a blip really at the

1439
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: end of the.

1440
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: Day, Yeah keith detereriated pretty. Quickly darrow wound up in

1441
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,959
Speaker 2: The DODGERS i believe the next, offseason and Then Frank

1442
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,319
Speaker 2: cash and Once doc And darrow were, off the team

1443
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 2: had a horrible press release about, them saying that those

1444
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 2: two young men failed The, mets.

1445
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: Which it seems like they might have failed them in a,

1446
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: way like they definitely didn't do anything to help these.

1447
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: Guys they were just essentially players on the. Team, yes,

1448
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 2: terrible terrible way to think about. It like you're an organization.

1449
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 2: There you gotta gotta be a, community you gotta be

1450
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: part of an. ORGANISM i understand the general manager And

1451
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 2: Billy bean does this pretty. Well you kind of want

1452
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 2: to stay removed from a lot of the emotional impact

1453
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 2: of a. Team but these these were two young guys

1454
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 2: who you. Developed you think The mets have taken a

1455
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 2: greater interest in their in their, lives and this is

1456
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 2: when the best scene in this documentary all they show

1457
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 2: all these guys in different Uniforms gary went back to

1458
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 2: The expos, Said mookie to The Blue. Jays Kevin mitchell

1459
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 2: wins AN mvp and The, Giants doc And darrell win

1460
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 2: championships with The. Yankees doctor was no hitter with The.

1461
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: Yankees But don mc grecor rant going over all of,

1462
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 2: It who's your? Forever Met keith went to The, Indians

1463
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 2: mookie was A Blue jay that over and over. Again

1464
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: it Really it's, true like this entire team just disintegrated very,

1465
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: quickly and none of these guys who were the heroes

1466
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,399
Speaker 2: of this team finished their careers out with The. Mets,

1467
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 2: no which like you would have, thought you, know seeing

1468
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: that build up to eighty six and in the eighty six,

1469
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 2: season there's no way that this team wouldn't stick. Together

1470
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 2: there's no way that these guys don't finish on a

1471
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: high with The. Mets and literally nobody. Did. No it

1472
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 2: looked like they were going to begin a dynasty and

1473
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: the entire thing was completely could Put by nineteen eighty,

1474
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: nine three years, later the roster was in, shambles no similarities.

1475
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: Whatsoever keith was having the issues with his, dad never

1476
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 2: smooved it.

1477
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: Over while he backman domestic Assault Lenny dykstra is just a,

1478
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: Criminal like there's just no way around become a.

1479
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 2: Criminal just a, criminal like And.

1480
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: Darryl they had their, issues they had their, problems never

1481
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: really figured it out with The mets, again and like

1482
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: The mets were kind of it and it was, done

1483
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: and then the nineties came around and The mets were

1484
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: like pretty irrelevant.

1485
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 2: Again they were. Horrific and it also goes to show

1486
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: that a lot of these guys in this team probably

1487
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 2: weren't the best the best, guys which kind of goes,

1488
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: LIKE i don't, know do you do? It you will

1489
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 2: separate the ar from the. Artist but this team was

1490
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: just kind of, combustible and while they did win in miraculous,

1491
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 2: fashion it ended up. Combusting it felt like every single

1492
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 2: thing that had to go right did go right for

1493
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: The mets to, win and it might have gotten perceived

1494
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 2: as like this team was actually really, good when maybe

1495
00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 2: they played better than they actually. Wore it was a

1496
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: lot of small miracles that kind of led The mets

1497
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 2: to A World, series which almost every team you won

1498
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 2: A World series in, baseball you need a couple of

1499
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: real things to go. Right the braids from this last,

1500
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 2: Year Eddie rosario is the hottest man on, earth Like

1501
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 2: Tyler matzik finally learns how to throw a slide, there

1502
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 2: like a lot of things have to.

1503
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: Happen they lose A kunya to acl Teir azuna for

1504
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: the domestic violence. Thing two of their best hitters in

1505
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: their lineup don't play basically for the entire second half

1506
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: of the.

1507
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 2: Season they somehow got, better Like Charlal warren breaks his

1508
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: leg in The Midlible World.

1509
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 1: Series, yeah like all this stuff happens to every, team

1510
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: it's just what happens. Afterwards and for The, mets nothing happened.

1511
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 2: Afterwards that was, It no, nothing and the city did kept.

1512
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: Writhing they were kind of harping on the like the

1513
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: money mania aspect Of New york at the, time which

1514
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: definitely still exists to this. Day we have a lot

1515
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: of friends who are finance, obsessed really care about the dollar.

1516
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: Signs at the, end it's just these guys are one and,

1517
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 2: done and it kind Of this documentary closed in a

1518
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 2: bit of a somber way With Lenny dykster giving a

1519
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: pink killer laden monologue about. It that way we developed this. Team,

1520
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 2: man it could have been something really. Special it couldn't

1521
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: really just do we couldn't get over.

1522
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 1: There, yeah the fact That Lenny dyster is to give

1523
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: the monologue at the end of, IT i think is

1524
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: a perfect way to end it, too because it's like

1525
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: that's kind of a great like reality check almost like

1526
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 1: what The mets, were like high, powered fast on top

1527
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: of the, world and then just as high as they,

1528
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: were they went super super low real after.

1529
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: It Like Lenny, DYKSTRA i don't even know if he

1530
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: knows where he is half the. Time, no Land Dyster

1531
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: is really becomes something of a sad figure over the

1532
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 2: last decade decade and a half, ESPECIALLY i mean He's Land,

1533
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 2: dyster a, bizarre bizarre human. Being you, know he'd lived

1534
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 2: In clark for a while by, Us, Yeah, Clark. Linden

1535
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: he hung Around Union county quite a. Bit, yeah he

1536
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: got arrested one time with a cocaine possession Rahwayh. Yeah.

1537
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 2: St George's. AVENUE i another STORY i got With Lann dyster.

1538
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: IS i don't remember if it's my week At Cooper

1539
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: sound or the Other westfield team or just one of

1540
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: the weeks In Cooper. Sound Lenny dyster's kid was playing

1541
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: and truck the catcher and that's like an immediate ejection

1542
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: from the. Tournament you're, gone as if they think it's

1543
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: like on. Purpose And Lenny dykster apparently like fought with

1544
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: the guys Like I'm lenny Fucking, dykstra like my kid's,

1545
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: playing and he's just right back in the next game

1546
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 1: like he, Was, uh he got he got shit, Done Lenny,

1547
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: dykstra but.

1548
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:43,920
Speaker 2: Illegally, yeah, Definitely and that's that's kind of the way

1549
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: this all. Ends like, that more of what could have

1550
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 2: been it got there. Once it's kind of similar to

1551
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: THE s twenty fifteen. Team you, know everything just fell

1552
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: apart really quickly and different. Reasons of, COURSE i don't

1553
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:54,439
Speaker 2: know how many guys in that. Team we're Doing cobe

1554
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 2: smids of. Cocaine but just in, fact you look at

1555
00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: that rotation that was the cover Of Sports illustrated with

1556
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: that famous during like The, steakhouse the one guy, left

1557
01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 2: just the one guy, left it.

1558
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: Is jacob De, grom whom probably honestly wouldn't have been

1559
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 1: your bet to be the guy that stays around the.

1560
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 2: Longest now they've probably been the second or third. Choice,

1561
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 2: Yeah so.

1562
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: Very similar to what happened. Then overall incredible. Documentary four,

1563
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: part which is one the bigger one that ESPN's have.

1564
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 1: Done Jimmy, kimmel big executive producer on, it really really good.

1565
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: Job if you're A mets, fan highly recommend. It even

1566
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: though you just heard our breakdown of literally everything that

1567
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: happened in, it go watch it. Yourself we miss some.

1568
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 1: Things still overall. Awesome if you're A mets, fan must, watch.

1569
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: Honestly if you're a baseball, fan must watch.

1570
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 2: Definitely it's kind of a good message to end on

1571
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 2: here that while this lockout's going on and we are

1572
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 2: urging everybody that remain, positive you, know freaking On, march

1573
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: not freaking out Till march with The Messed Up Podcast march,

1574
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: Fifth march. Tenth, yeah it's a good time to just

1575
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 2: look back at some baseball. HISTORY Mlb network is playing

1576
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: old baseball games every single day because legally they cannot

1577
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 2: show current players In Major League baseball because they are

1578
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,920
Speaker 2: part of the league and they have locked out the

1579
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 2: players as, Well so they're showing games from the, seventies, eighties,

1580
01:00:57,280 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: nineties early two thousands every single. Night good to click

1581
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: on again for an ending or two watch them old.

1582
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 2: Baseball see how see how it's all used to. Go

1583
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 2: YouTube has tons of great old baseball. Content ben Por

1584
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: this shows old baseball videos and His twitter like what

1585
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: every single day's a lot Like Super super Seventy sports

1586
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,760
Speaker 2: does some hilarious. Stuff it's. Good good baseball history is pretty.

1587
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 2: RICH i don't know if anyone's really like a history

1588
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 2: nerd like Made maybe could Watch Ken, burns but that's

1589
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: not for. Everybody, yeah he's a little, slow but it

1590
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 2: was a little SOL i MEAN I i've watched a

1591
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: couple of times Through it's it's incredible, stuff but it's. Good. Yeah,

1592
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 2: Yeah baseball history is a, good good thing to get,

1593
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 2: into especially this. Time so if you had to give

1594
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 2: it a, rating, uh you, know one through, ten what

1595
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 2: are you giving? It, oh this Doc, Yeah i'd say

1596
01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 2: probably like a good like, nine, two nine. THREE i

1597
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 2: was in the same. RANGE i was like nine to.

1598
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: ONE i was, LIKE i think you can't give it a.

1599
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: Ten of, course this is just.

1600
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,800
Speaker 1: Perfect there's just things is perfect because then you're only

1601
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: let down from here on. Out but this is a

1602
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 1: must watch documentary if you're A mets fan or just

1603
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 1: a fan of baseball in, general take time out of.

1604
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: It you. Could it's four parts you could split it.

1605
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: Up you could take an hour a day and you

1606
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: have a week's worth of content to.

1607
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 2: Watch you could have a good. Week you could watch

1608
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 2: one episode of a. Week maybe you use Your sunday

1609
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: night a, vade Your sunday. Scare this is it's a

1610
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: good thing to. Watch it's really, useful and it was

1611
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 2: really cool to just get that Old New york And mets.

1612
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: Culture and that's gonna be where we wrap it.

1613
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 1: Up, guys episode number seventy four of The mets of

1614
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,959
Speaker 1: the Podcast Once upon A time In Queen's part, Two we're.

1615
01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: Done you won't hear us talk about this too much

1616
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 1: more because There's we literally had basically two hours worth of,

1617
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: it which is almost as long as the actual documentary

1618
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 1: is in.

1619
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: Retrospect we talked about it quite a, bit but it was.

1620
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 2: Fun we got elso talk. About hopefully you guys enjoyed.

1621
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: It thank you for, Listening thank you for.

1622
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: Watching if you're watching on, YouTube make sure you're following

1623
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: us On twitter At met stuff. Everywhere we're doing a

1624
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: giveaway right now for A Brett baby card on Our,

1625
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: twitter so go check that. Out make sure you're following,

1626
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,120
Speaker 1: Us tweet us your, questions anything you want to do

1627
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: for a mailback.

1628
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,800
Speaker 2: Episode we're gonna be answering those upcoming.

1629
01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,360
Speaker 1: Soon Follow james On twitter At junior had No, Range

1630
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: meat you raffneckmark and make sure you give us a

1631
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 1: rating On Apple, Podcasts, Spotify.

1632
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: Google All that five, stars drop us a, review drop

1633
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: us for rever a. Rating thanks guys for, listening thanks for,

1634
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 2: watching and we'll see you next. Time peace peace, out,

1635
01:02:55,640 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 2: guys see you. Later The New The, new