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Speaker 1: First question we asked everybody who come on the show

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Speaker 1: is when you first got to the NBA, who was

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Speaker 1: the first person to bust your ass?

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Speaker 2: Rick Smith, Rick Smith.

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Speaker 3: Ode the Duncan Dutchman.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was the first person to give it to me.

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Speaker 4: Because it was my first game, I missed training camp

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Speaker 4: with the Charlotte on it. They were trying to get

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Speaker 4: my contract right, so I missed all the training camp.

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Speaker 2: So literally when the contract was done, training camp.

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Speaker 4: Was over with and I flew straight to Charlotte. I

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Speaker 4: got off the plane and then they took me from

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Speaker 4: the airport with my bags straight to the team plane.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I get on the plane.

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Speaker 4: The first person I see is Kenny Gattison, Muggsy Bowls

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Speaker 4: and LJ. I see the right there and I saw

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Speaker 4: ja Il Reed at the time. And I didn't get

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Speaker 4: up welcome and feeling at all.

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Speaker 2: I mean because I was open.

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Speaker 4: Because I was holding the plane up from taking off

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Speaker 4: to Indiana, which was the first game of the season.

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Speaker 4: We played Indiana the next day. I was nervous as hell, man,

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Speaker 4: you know, my first game coming out of Georgetown, but

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Speaker 4: I knew I was prepared because playing against the KENBA

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Speaker 4: and Patrick for all those years. I knew I was

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Speaker 4: prepared for the league because I was going against them

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Speaker 2: So my confidence did.

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Speaker 4: But at the anxiety and just anxious and ready to

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Speaker 4: get it going, so many butterflies at my stomach and everything.

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Speaker 4: But anyway, lost story short, we started a game. I

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Speaker 4: ended up scoring thirty thirteen points that game. The first

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Speaker 4: game at Market Square Arena. I was an old Indiana

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Speaker 4: arena and Reggie Miller, Rick Smith. They had a squad

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Speaker 4: and they beat us US at home and I had

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Speaker 2: I was giving up about six seven inches. You know.

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Speaker 4: Rick s Fish was a big boy and with touch.

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Speaker 4: I was about two fifty. Rick Smich had to be

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Speaker 4: about to eighty. You know, he was bothered having it

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Speaker 4: so hard to move him out of it, so he

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Speaker 4: had to be about two inches. I was giving up

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Speaker 4: about six inches and about thirty fives. He like he

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Speaker 4: gave it to me that game. That game kind of

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Speaker 4: broke it I and I, you know, got my feet.

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Speaker 2: Wasn't the league. For the next three four weeks, I

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Speaker 2: went on a tear man.

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Speaker 4: I was having I was having like twenty and ten

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Speaker 4: a game.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, this is what this is about Okay,

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Speaker 2: I got this.

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Speaker 3: I figured it out, Yo yo yo, live on location.

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Speaker 3: Me and the black is one still here, you know,

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Speaker 3: Lando staying I asked and safe at home. Hope y'all

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Speaker 3: doing the same. But this one is specially y'all. This

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Speaker 3: is our big bro man, the first one to welcome

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Speaker 3: us into the fraturn under you would open arms. A

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Speaker 3: legend in the game hall of fame, one of the

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Speaker 3: biggest and baddest to do it. This our big boat

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Speaker 3: Alonzo morning. Appreciate you fam.

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Speaker 2: All right, ohj oh yo yo man, I appreciate you brother.

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Speaker 5: Thanks Chesapeake b A.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Indian River High School they got a goat got a legend,

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Speaker 1: like how was it? Was it another high school or

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Speaker 1: that you would chose to go or Indian River was

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Speaker 1: the high.

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Speaker 6: School of your was the high school at that particular

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Speaker 6: time because of the area that I was living in

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Speaker 6: and I'm staying with my foster Mamba, that was the

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Speaker 4: To the neighborhood that I lived in was called the

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Speaker 4: area was called Lambert's Point. Strutberry Lane was the area

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Speaker 4: and we could literally walked to school, that's how close

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Speaker 4: we were. It takes us about twenty twenty five minutes

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Speaker 4: to walk to school, you know. But you know, we

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Speaker 4: it's pretty easy to get to So either if you

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. When you first started,

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Speaker 3: when did you start getting good and noticing that you

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Speaker 3: you and start clicking.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, I was thirteen years old and I got my

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Speaker 2: first dump. I was six or six five? Dang, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I got my first dunk at the Indian River Recreational Center.

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Speaker 2: I was in junior high school. And then after junior

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Speaker 2: and who til basketball season started and we played junior

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Speaker 2: high school what have you? You know? When I first dunk,

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Speaker 4: And we were playing against like older guys and that

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Speaker 2: The game against the grown men, right because they were all.

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Speaker 4: These physical woods, but we were faster than them.

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Speaker 4: Was blocking a lot of shots. I was just beat

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Speaker 4: you know, Penn and stuff, you know. So you know,

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Speaker 4: once I came down, I came down on the break

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Speaker 4: and got the dunk. I actually shot myself. I wasn't

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Speaker 4: and then the run was over with. And when they

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Speaker 2: Part right there on your finger right there, that little

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Speaker 2: it for me, you know. And then after that, what

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Speaker 2: really kind of solidified everything is when I was going

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Speaker 4: And I was going to all the five start camping.

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Speaker 4: I was competing against all these guys, you know, and

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Speaker 4: then you know, I was doing work in the camp

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Speaker 4: and they had the Street and Smith rankings.

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Speaker 2: That came out.

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Speaker 3: This is old school right here. The five started the street.

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Speaker 3: The young boys don't know nothing about this.

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Speaker 2: Blue ribbon Street Smith.

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Speaker 4: You know, when the rankings came out and they had

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Speaker 4: you know I must be putting it in work.

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Speaker 1: My coach used to have me watch this tape for you.

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Speaker 1: The coach that coached me in high school was a

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Speaker 1: Fonso Ellis coach and the Coca Cola shootout it was

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Speaker 1: a seven up shoot, seven up shoots.

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Speaker 5: It was a seven up shootout. Yeah, in Saint Louis.

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Speaker 1: And I used to watch this tape and study this

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Speaker 1: to watch this both sides, both sides of the ball,

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Speaker 1: blocking the shots, rebounding, scoring, And I used.

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Speaker 5: To have to study these tapes.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember that, like all that game, that big

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Speaker 1: hype around that game of y'all playing against each other,

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Speaker 4: Was looking forward to because the Fonso was one of

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Speaker 2: So we were ranking number two in the country, our

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Speaker 2: I was like, well, for us to be the best,

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Speaker 2: East Saint Louis Lady and setting up shootout and we

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Speaker 4: And I made it a point that game. I remember,

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Speaker 4: it was a long time ago. I made a point

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Speaker 4: that game, and I ain't want nobody to score. I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, That's one of my favorite games to watch

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Speaker 1: when I was blocked a.

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Speaker 2: Lot of shots that game for sure.

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Speaker 3: So how was it for you coming from you know

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Speaker 3: VA and you started out how you started out? Then

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Speaker 3: you rise to be the number one recruit period over

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Speaker 3: dudes like you know, Christian Lakener, Billy O and Sean Kemp,

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Speaker 3: Stanley wide like some legends, like especially in hindsight looking

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Speaker 3: back at that, how was that for you in high school?

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Speaker 3: You know, being the number one recruit? And I know

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Speaker 3: Was it like could you have gone to anywhere else

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Speaker 4: I was a number one high school player in the country,

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Speaker 4: and I think what separated me was what I did

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Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball.

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Speaker 2: I was averaging a triple double in high school.

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Speaker 4: So I was averaging ten blocks, I averaged like thirteen

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Speaker 4: fifteen rebounds a game, and I was averaging.

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Speaker 2: Like twenty six points twenty seven points a game.

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Speaker 4: So I was averaging a triple double in high school.

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Speaker 4: So that's what separated me from everybody else. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I remember one game we were playing against Williams All Stars.

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Speaker 4: We went to Philly and we played against Brian Shorter.

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Speaker 2: He went to Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: I think he might have played in the league for

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Speaker 4: a little bit, you know, but they had a squad

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Speaker 4: Philly's finance. We played against Philly's finance, Sunny Hill Sunny Hill,

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Speaker 4: and I had like twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Blocks in that game.

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Speaker 3: So they kept coming in there.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they kept coming in there. Yeah. So you

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Speaker 2: know when you talk about Christian Lady, yeah, he was

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Speaker 2: amazing him And I actually still got a picture of

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Speaker 2: him and I at five Star Basketball campus kids, him

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Speaker 2: and I both Billy Owce, Sean Kemp, all of us.

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Speaker 2: You know, you talk about the competition level was intense,

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Speaker 2: especially at the Nike ABCD camps. All the camps that

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Speaker 2: we competed against you know, but what.

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Speaker 4: Separated me wasn't just a score, you know, it was

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Speaker 4: my defense and rebound, you know. So yes, I could

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Speaker 4: have gone to any school I wanted to go to,

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Speaker 4: but the one that stood out for me was George Town.

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Speaker 2: And the reason being, you know, God rest his soul

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Speaker 2: was John Thompson. John Thompson was He was an X.

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Speaker 4: Factor and pretty much, you know, all the schools that

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Speaker 4: recruited me, and I narrowed my schools down to five

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Speaker 4: school it was Maryland, Bob Wade was there at the

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Speaker 4: particular time, Bobbie Crimins at Georgia Tech, Terry Holland in Virginia,

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Speaker 4: be Hid and Syracuse and then Big John and Georgetown.

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Speaker 2: So you know, I took all my visits. I had

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Speaker 2: a blast, and all my visits had a blast. You know.

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Speaker 2: Back then it was the business was different. Back then, boy,

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Speaker 2: you you were able to really have some fun, you know.

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Speaker 2: And uh yeah, I remember I.

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Speaker 4: Remember dining Scott. I remember the Scott when I went to

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Speaker 4: Georgia Tech. I remember him taking me to see a

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Speaker 4: Bee the Bakery.

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Speaker 3: Concert picture that three D sidelines shout taking.

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Speaker 4: You and then you know, he took me to some

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Speaker 4: other spots too. We had a we had a good time,

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Speaker 4: you know, and uh D C. Derrick Coleman took me out,

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Speaker 4: took me out there and Syracuse.

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Speaker 2: You know, the list goes on, man, you know, but

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Speaker 4: Tell you you know what stood out, what separated Georgetown.

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Speaker 2: From everybody else was all the coaches had an opportunity

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Speaker 4: So Terry Holland, beheim byweh Bobby Crimins, all of them

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Speaker 2: Miss three, we want your son to come to Georgetown,

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Speaker 2: but he's gonna have to work for everything that he gets.

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Speaker 2: Not one coach said that a big job. Big I

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Speaker 4: And my fosse in law, being a retired school teacher,

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Speaker 5: Was like, that's the one.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah, you know, because you know she was

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: One coach said that all these other coaches talk about

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Speaker 2: So it was perfect. It was just a marriage.

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Speaker 4: And at that particular time, you know, like many of us,

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Speaker 4: Separated, you know, so I didn't have that consistent you know,

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Speaker 2: Figure at that particular time basically molded me and kind

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Speaker 4: Life because he kept me on a straight and arrw

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Speaker 2: And that particular Hey, I will tell you the same thing.

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Speaker 4: You know, things a big Job did for us, he

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Speaker 1: Job, you know, and he said like he was like protecting.

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Speaker 1: He always were protective over y'all. You can see it

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Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying that.

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Speaker 2: He was, and he was like he was like he

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Speaker 2: You know. It was devastating to my career. It was

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Speaker 4: Up the phone make some calls to some dudes in

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Speaker 4: I mean, that was the time. That was the type

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Speaker 2: You know, because of the respect that he had in

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Speaker 4: Hood, everybody in the hood. Big John had somebody that

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Speaker 2: He always had eyes out there Washington. It was crazy.

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Speaker 2: We could do nothing. They'll find it out.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, because you hit the scene

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Speaker 3: all of those things, You get there and you, you

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Speaker 2: Well? You know, I mean, there was so much of

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Speaker 4: Of him being the number one ocual player in the

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Speaker 2: So the Beast was the most you know, powerhouse.

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Speaker 4: It was the most emphasized conference in the country at

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Speaker 4: ESPN because they had money, big money, right, so big.

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Speaker 2: Money had this caught following everybody watching everybody, Yeah, everybody.

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Speaker 4: So all the recruits, man, you got to think from

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Speaker 2: Competition was amazing. The East twenty was the hottest point.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you this what this is what I grew

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Speaker 3: I got load. But it was DePaul basketball on Georgetown

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Speaker 2: So I had a lot of pressure on me to perform.

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Speaker 4: I defended and I rebound, So as a freshman, I

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Speaker 4: I was amazingly athletic at that particular time. So you know,

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Speaker 4: still averaged like fourteen points a game just off a

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Speaker 4: And plus I had a bunch of seniors in my

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Speaker 2: Me that we was just just throwing me die.

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Speaker 3: I was finished making it easy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was making it easy. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: All I had to do was hustle. So that's where,

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Speaker 2: Not until my sophomore in junior year is whereing my

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Speaker 4: It developed because of the the experiences that I had

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Speaker 4: So Patrick would come back in the summertime just to

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Speaker 4: Huns was crazy in me. So, I mean, you talk

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Speaker 2: So at any given time, it was me Patrick and

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Speaker 4: Ain't nobody want to leave the court, So it was

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Speaker 1: How was it watching the ken Bay term from nothing

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Speaker 4: Well, the Kimba instinctially was always a great rebounder. I

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Speaker 3: That's what that's a big tambo taste. He says, name

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Speaker 2: I thought my name was motherfucker, motherfucker.

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Speaker 4: Anytime got turned around and jump, you know, so he

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Speaker 2: He's African. Get your ass on there glass and give

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Speaker 4: So watching the kid make grow and developed like you know,

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Speaker 2: He developed a little yeah, a little jumping and then

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and sure enough.

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Speaker 2: You know, end up being second pick in the draft

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Speaker 2: And it was my junior year and you know, end

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Speaker 5: Yeah he did first year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all because of rebounding and.

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Speaker 5: Right abound and blocking shot.

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Speaker 3: Did y'all ever feel like y'all was like the college

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Speaker 3: I can't like y'all like that was crazy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was, but you know what, you know, our

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Speaker 2: We had more like if we had an AI we

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Speaker 5: Y'all gonna play all the defense, he could go all

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Speaker 2: We didn't have anybody like that. We didn't have. We

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Speaker 4: Have any like star players that could really get it

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We have you know, so, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the numbers that we needed offensively in order for us

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Speaker 2: to win the way we we.

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Speaker 4: Should have won, you know because he had me and

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Speaker 4: the king the game. Man, I mean, Jesus Christ. You

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Speaker 3: You know y'all co defensive players of the year before,

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Speaker 1: No, with all the success that you had like number

445
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: one and everything was expected you, how was that pressure

446
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: wise for you?

447
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 5: Like did you let.

448
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: That pressure or was that linger in your mind was

449
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: like hey, I got to do this every game?

450
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: Well it was It wasn't no pressure. It was just

451
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: instincts man.

452
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 4: You know after a while, because my coach, Bill Lassier,

453
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 4: who was a very defensive body to coach as well,

454
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 4: and you know he wanted me the club in the middle.

455
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: You know.

456
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 4: That's how I was taught at a very young age.

457
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,679
Speaker 4: And when I say young age, when ninth grade I

458
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 4: played Barshington. I started playing Barsington ninth grade, so I

459
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: played four years and four years of Washington and my

460
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,479
Speaker 4: job in the ninth grade, I remember him teaching me

461
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 4: clearly to just make sure nobody scores.

462
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 2: That's your job. We'll get you the ball make sure

463
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 2: that nobody school. So that was kind of that seed

464
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,439
Speaker 2: was planning to me a very early age, you know.

465
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 2: So it's just instincts for me, you know, to go

466
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: out the shots. You know what I'm saying, You just

467
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: kind of protected pay and I kind of over the years,

468
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: I just took it personal because it's what I knew

469
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 2: is what I was groomed for groom and that's why

470
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: I developed that reputation.

471
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 3: How was it for you? Like after you you know,

472
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 3: you declare and now you know you going to the draft?

473
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: How was it for you walking across that stage and

474
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 3: shaking David Stearn's hand. But I know for every for

475
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 3: all of us, that's like, you know, a lifelong dream

476
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 3: and it's like that moment is a huge deal for us.

477
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 3: How was it for you?

478
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: That was a it was a dream come true?

479
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: You know because as a kid, you know, you watch

480
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 4: that on TV so many years, it's ingrained in your

481
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 4: head to.

482
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: Be one of those guys.

483
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 4: One day, you know what I'm saying, to see it

484
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 4: and you say, one day, I'm I'm gonna walk on

485
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 4: that stage and I'm gonna shave there the Starns hanging,

486
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 4: you know, so blessing, so grateful for.

487
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 2: That moment, you know, because a lot went into that moment.

488
00:25:58,600 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: A lot went.

489
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 4: Into coaches, teachers, family members that made a significant investment

490
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 4: in my life in order for me to experience that moment,

491
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 4: you know. So that moment, you know, I was celebrating

492
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: the contributions of others that particular moment.

493
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: You know, So God rest is soul. David Stern, he

494
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 2: was a friend. I actually went to Africa with him, y'all,

495
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: our first basketball with our orders trip me to Kenbai

496
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 2: Patrick and John Crowton. We went on that trip to

497
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 2: Africa and it was absolutely amazing back in ninety four,

498
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: it was like ninety three.

499
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 4: So that moment coming into the league with David starting

500
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 4: to walk on me into the league, you know, the

501
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 4: very rememorable omen.

502
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: That I'll never forget.

503
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: So now you in the league your first year and

504
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: you get your groove, but you see your squad, You

505
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: see who you really got on your team. You got

506
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: Larry Johnson and Read and all these guys like So

507
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: that first round of the playoff when y'are playing Boston,

508
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: what did you think of going into that playoff series?

509
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Well I was thinking like what, we got

510
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: hands full. But I also knew that we could beat them,

511
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 2: but we had to beat them with speed. We can't

512
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: get We couldn't get into a half good game with

513
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: them because they still had you, they had kill, they

514
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: had they and they had Robert Perrish, chief was still there.

515
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: So they had so much side in that pink. That's

516
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 2: how they dominated us.

517
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 4: And we stole the ball down in the half court

518
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 4: schemer day, that's how they got us. So my goal,

519
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: Budgy's goal, was Elj's goal. We were like, hey, we

520
00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 4: got to get up and there to court of these guys.

521
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 4: So my job was to take the ball out fast

522
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 4: and whatever was closest to the ball, we took it

523
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 4: out fast, and Mugs was gone, and Mugs they told

524
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 4: us like, look, you know, don't let me beat y'all.

525
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: Down the court. I want y'all at the front. So

526
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 2: we got a lot of easy baskets on them, and

527
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 2: that's how we beat them. And then you.

528
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 4: Know, we get to a game five and uh, it

529
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 4: gets down up to the last player.

530
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 2: We drew up a play to get.

531
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 4: Then Curry Steph Curry's father to get Del's ball for

532
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 4: a jumper and they covered that play, and once they

533
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 4: covered everybody else, I was the relief. I was the

534
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 4: one that popped back from the out of the bounds

535
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 4: of the basket, just ball in bounds.

536
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 3: Pressure release, man, Yeah, I was.

537
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a pressure release.

538
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: So when I caught the ball, I was like, well, damn,

539
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 4: I'm in arranged, you know. So this is a shot

540
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 4: that I took on a regular basis, you know, and

541
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 4: I just say I'm in ranged. It was an instinct

542
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 4: to just just let it fly. I wasn't to look

543
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: to pass it. I say, either it's going in or

544
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 4: you know, we're going overtime. I let it fly, and

545
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 4: I let it fly. I saw it going through the net.

546
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 4: I just fell straight back.

547
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 3: I remember that as a shooting. Seeing the replays of it, like.

548
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: From the shinings of the celebration, they always showed that.

549
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: That's a big moment that I always remember in NBA

550
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: history and my memory book.

551
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

552
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 4: You know what, back then, man, because of MJ, the

553
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: game in the nineties was on the customers, just launch,

554
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 4: take it off, you know.

555
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: Because of MJ. In the eighties it was Magic and Bird.

556
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 2: Obviously they set the stage, but Michael he created some

557
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: excitement well more, I started being on the game of basketball,

558
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 2: and we at that particular time where this identified with

559
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: the younger crowd because we were an expansion franchise. Our

560
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: colors was cool kill purple, and we had kin strikes

561
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: on our jerseysy and you had a little Muggy who

562
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: could look all kids out of eye. You had LJ

563
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 2: who was very popular coming out of you. N LB

564
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: and n l D was a hot team, you know

565
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 2: back in college. You know, they were just like the

566
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: bad love Grandmama. Indeed, yeah, you Hadrandma, you know.

567
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: So we had a lot of attension on our team.

568
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 4: So it was exciting basketball back then in the nineties.

569
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: It really was a very physical play back then. You know,

570
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 4: I think a lot of there's a.

571
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 2: Lot of those players back then during the nineties we

572
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: were playing right now, Jesus Christ because of the physicality

573
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 2: is gone. You know, the points that we'd be averaging

574
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: is would be astronomical.

575
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: In your forty ninth game, you the all time leading

576
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: scorer in block shots in Charlotte history.

577
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: I think something like that.

578
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: Let's tell how young the franchise, not only the players,

579
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 1: but the franchise really was.

580
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: The franchise. Like I said, we had a young expansion franchise,

581
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: you know, so it was exciting to see us.

582
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 4: You know, we were new, fresh on the scene. We

583
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: had great young, charismatic players, you know. And we had

584
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: a running gun team, you know, a very exciting team

585
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: to watch.

586
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: We had a very exciting team to watch, you know.

587
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: And then we had this passing game. Offense was just moving,

588
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: moving movement, and then we just got to fall out

589
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: of the bat. We had to fall out of the family.

590
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: We were running because of months, and we were fun

591
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: to watch. We were in the world. We were fun

592
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 2: to watch.

593
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 3: Tell me this, how was it when you got to Miami?

594
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 3: How different was that from from anywhere you had ever been,

595
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: being from Virginia, going to Georgetown, playing in Charlotte, then

596
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: you get to Miami, Like literally, I mean, obviously we

597
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: all know how Miami is different from that. How was

598
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 3: that like a culture shock to you?

599
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 2: Though? So I'm gonna tell you, man, once you get

600
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: a chance to come here for the first time and

601
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 2: take her nice deep breath of this fresh air, it

602
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 2: really makes you feel like you're on vacation.

603
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 3: Brother, That's the funniest thing I say. The teams I play.

604
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 3: It's three teams I played for where I felt like

605
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 3: me being from Chicago, always driving to and from place.

606
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh am if on vacation, Miami, Orlando, and Phoenix.

607
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: Just the scenery is so much different than what we've

608
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 3: used to growing up around the trees, the desert, cactus,

609
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: palm trees, all of it. I was like, I used

610
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 3: to always feel that way.

611
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 4: So the weather was is absolutely amazing, and the atmosphere,

612
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 4: the different cultures, the food, the beauty, you know that and.

613
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: Across South Florida you know, multi culture beauty. And on

614
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 2: top of that, you know, more importantly, you know, you

615
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: got a franchise here that's a winning franchise, you know,

616
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: And you have a franchise that takes.

617
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 4: A lot of pride and giving back to the community.

618
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 4: You know, you got a franchise that is fair and

619
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 4: does everything it.

620
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: Possibly can to make sure that that it's players have

621
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 2: everything they need in order to win.

622
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 4: So similar as that, you know, it's a winning mentality.

623
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 4: You know, we don't each year. We go into each

624
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 4: year and it starts from the top of Micky Harrison.

625
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 4: We don't have any billion years. Every year we try

626
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: to win. I don't care what we have. I don't

627
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 4: care what we have on our roster. We're trying to

628
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: win every year. And that's a great mentality to have,

629
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: you know, because you don't set up for anything less

630
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 4: than the best. You know, and all the guys have

631
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 4: come through here, it's held to a higher standard.

632
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: And on top of that, I mean you can interview

633
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 2: all the guys that have come.

634
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 4: Through this program, which which you have to you you

635
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 4: understand that when you come here, we hold you to

636
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 4: a higher standard because we want you to be the

637
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 4: hardest working, best condition, most professional, toughest, most.

638
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: Dislike, nastiest team in the NBA. And we hang out

639
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: hats some money, you know, and that's the hardest working,

640
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: most professional, best condition, most dislike, toughest, nastiest team in

641
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: the NBA. You know. So it is what it is,

642
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 2: you know.

643
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 4: And I don't know any other organization that holds you

644
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 4: to that standard.

645
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: And I've been through the period.

646
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: No I've been to Charlotte, I've been to New Jersey,

647
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,240
Speaker 4: and none of them held you to that stale.

648
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: I've been. I've been what is the sixth seven, I

649
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 3: don't know how many, but I've been to a few

650
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: more teams than that. And I tell you what, Like

651
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: you remember when I came there, it was the best

652
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: thing in the world for me because being around the

653
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: uh you know, not talking bad about any other organizations,

654
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 3: but like you said, Miami is unique and what it

655
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: has to offering, the way that they you know, the

656
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 3: culture is, and the way that they train and have

657
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 3: their players, especially young players. I feel like if if

658
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 3: you get drafted or you get an early start there

659
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: in Miami, I feel like you have a better chance

660
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: to having a sturdy career than somebody who doesn't, just

661
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: because you get that whole that platform. You get started

662
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: out with a good base of how to be a pro. Like,

663
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 3: you're not gonna go anywhere else where it's gonna be harder.

664
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: You may go where somebody work as much, but nobody

665
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: works harder than what y'all do.

666
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 4: But not just that you you the right mentality of

667
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 4: what it takes to be a cry You know I'm saying,

668
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 4: when you first come here, you're not tainted by anything

669
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 4: else here, right, you get all the things that you

670
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 4: need for you to understand how to be a crop.

671
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 4: You get what I'm saying, So understand that first of all,

672
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 4: you're drafting into this league because your talent.

673
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 2: Okay, now you got thoty in the work.

674
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: So being in the best shape of your life is

675
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: key for your talents to flourish. So and pat always

676
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 4: calls it. Pat Riley always called it Hussein boat ship.

677
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 4: So who's saying you think about? Who's saying you work

678
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: out for four years just one one to run one race?

679
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:35,280
Speaker 4: Think about it, all right? So you got to train

680
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: to run to be able to run that same race

681
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: every time.

682
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 2: You got to get it in the best shape of

683
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: your life to want to run that one race, you know,

684
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 2: so that.

685
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 4: That one race is to be prepared physically for the

686
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 4: rigors of the season, you know. And I think that's

687
00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 4: when you when you develop that mentality, it gives you somewhat.

688
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,399
Speaker 2: Of an edge, it really does.

689
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 4: You know. That's why I think a guy like Jimmy Butler,

690
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 4: I feel like he's he was made for our DNA

691
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: simply because you know, he understands the importance of what

692
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 4: we sell here.

693
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 2: You know.

694
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, It's funny you said Husain boat shape. All

695
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 3: I can think about is every day after practice when

696
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: Maccado by Big O g Bob mcado be one of

697
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 3: us in the shooting drill. His celebration was this, who

698
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 3: say every time shooting tell you was winning game?

699
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 2: Back is crazy?

700
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 4: Man. To this day, you don't want to shoot back.

701
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 4: She don't want to get on the court with him

702
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 4: because he's still strong.

703
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: Sure.

704
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wanted to ask you about the Knicks and

705
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: Heat rival you and Miami and you got pat Riley

706
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 1: who just left New York and.

707
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 5: You absorbed the beef.

708
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: And not only do you absorb the beef, is like

709
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: you got old teammates that's playing on the next team

710
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: and your brother is playing on his team. How was

711
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: that that rival for y'all? Because them series was like

712
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: some of the best series ever.

713
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: The most intense series of basketball games I've ever played

714
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: in my life was against the Knicks.

715
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 4: And it's off that route his fault because he built

716
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 4: his he built his bad blood between both organizations, and

717
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: he admitted he did it, and he had his he

718
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 4: had his DNA implemented in both organizations. Yeah yeah, and

719
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 4: then he left and established the singing talent.

720
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: So when we played each other, it was just like

721
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 2: two people button heads, you know.

722
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna tell you, man, And before every season started,

723
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: I would I would put an X on the capital

724
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 4: of all the Knicks games. In those of the games

725
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: I used to really truly get up for, let alone

726
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 4: the ones in the gardens, because I mean the things

727
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 4: that they were spilling out of the sands.

728
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: In the gardens was no joke. Got you fired up,

729
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: It really did. It just got kind of raised the

730
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: hair on your back. It really did. There was no joke.

731
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 2: And I had the ulmost love and respect for my

732
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 2: brother Patrick, but I wanted to tear his head off.

733
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: I really could see. You could see that we went to.

734
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 4: Dinner the night before, and pat Riley hated the fact

735
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 4: that we went to dinner the night before, but we

736
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 4: would always go to dinner the night before, him and I.

737
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 4: And then it jumped off. We were two different people.

738
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 4: We were ready to rip each other's head off. And

739
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 4: that's what were win That's what winning was all about. Man,

740
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 4: It was about you know. And I would knock him

741
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 4: on the floor, I step over the top of him,

742
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: you know, like you know, but after the game, I

743
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 4: hugging out of my light, out of the game. But

744
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: doing the game, you know, it was fire and fury, man,

745
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 4: it was fire and fury.

746
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: I think how hard me and Q used to play

747
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: against each other. They used to be like, Nah, y'all

748
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: just gonna play with each other. I love your tripping.

749
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,919
Speaker 1: Y'all going too hard at each other?

750
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: Right right?

751
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well that's what it was about, man. It was

752
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: about winning for us. I think a lot of that

753
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: was ingrained in us, and obviously at an early age

754
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 2: in Georgetown, you know, a big job, you know, Big

755
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,839
Speaker 2: John was like he.

756
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: Always told me, He's like, listen, I don't want no

757
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 4: butterflies on my team. He said, I want a bunch

758
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: of bulls. He said, give me a bunch of bulls.

759
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 4: I went with bulls. They said, I can't with no butterflies.

760
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 3: No doubt. Big fact.

761
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 5: Why did my block have to be the thousand block?

762
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: Why couldn't be like nine hundred and ninety nine, nine

763
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: ninety seven, maybe nine hundred and ninety Like I'm talking

764
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: about why I had to be the milestone block, the

765
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: thousand blocks?

766
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 5: Then I get a photos.

767
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: The best part was the was the photo and the

768
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 3: call afterwards between just say, let him know that was

769
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 3: my one thousand.

770
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 2: I enjoyed that.

771
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: I enjoyed that greatly.

772
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:17,879
Speaker 5: The right place, all that I appreciate it. It's all right, Hey, I.

773
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 3: Got one question right, Because you know my dogs is

774
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: d Wade and d Right. And we talked often, especially

775
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: d Right, about the year that y'all went to the chip,

776
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: how focused you were and how you was on them

777
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 3: and like one of your battle crowds, like you ain't

778
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: about to mess up this chip for me, like you

779
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 3: would tell whoever needed to hear that, you would let

780
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: them know that, like y'all not like we're gonna get

781
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: this done. Like, just tell me how that year was

782
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 3: for you, and how how fulfilling that was to get

783
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: that chip.

784
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's the opportunity was there.

785
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 4: I could smell it, I could see it, and you know,

786
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 4: I was trying to keep all the guys on the

787
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 4: right track mentally because in order for us to win,

788
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: it needed everybody, even the guys on the bench, We

789
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 4: needed everybody mentally into it.

790
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 2: And we didn't want.

791
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 4: Them to take this opportunity for granted, because you know,

792
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 4: those moments ain't promised, man, you know, and then you

793
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: don't know when you're gonna get back there again, or

794
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 4: if you'll ever get back there, you know what I say? Yeah,

795
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 4: So when you when you're there. You got to seize

796
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 4: the moment. You got to leave it all out.

797
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 2: You know, some of the guys didn't like me because

798
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: I got in their faces. I really did. I got

799
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 2: in their faces a lot of times that I.

800
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 7: Was like, yo, man, stay possed, right, you know, you

801
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 7: want to go to this partner, know, you want to

802
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 7: go to the club or whatever. You but I'll do

803
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 7: all of that with you after we win this chip, right,

804
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 7: you know, I'm mind rink.

805
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: Let's win the chip first, you know. And some of

806
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 2: them didn't want to hear me, but I stayed on.

807
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 4: And then you know, once we all celebrated, man, that

808
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: special moment June twenty of two thousand and six. You know,

809
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: it just it was so fulfilling because ultimately, in order

810
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 4: for you to accomplish life, certain sacrifices have to be made.

811
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 2: In order for you to do it.

812
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 4: Anything, anything, it just don't happen, you know, unless you

813
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 4: buy a lot of the ticket.

814
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 2: And yeah, ye're special, but life ain't like buying a

815
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 2: lot of the ticket. Ain't like that. You got to

816
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: put work in. You got to put the work in.

817
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 2: So you know, anything in life worth happening is worth working.

818
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 2: For you know so and making.

819
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 4: This necessary sacrifice for us. So I try to keep

820
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 4: everybody focused on that task at him and I love

821
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 4: all my brothers to help me get there.

822
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: Man. You know, I was just a small part of

823
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 2: the puzzle, you know.

824
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: And to bring an example of, you know, shocking. I

825
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 4: never really had the relationship that I expected us to

826
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: have until we were teammates and we won one together.

827
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 2: And then when he got inducted into the Hall of Fame,

828
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 2: I got a call. I got a call from him

829
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: and he said, yo, man, I want you to be

830
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: one of the presenters for the.

831
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 4: Hall for me.

832
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: That's dope.

833
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: And I was like, whoa you know? You want me

834
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: gonna stage to present for you?

835
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: You said, yeah, brother, you know and I said, well,

836
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: I ain't you thought that much of me for me

837
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 4: to be one of those guttens, you know so, so

838
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 4: it was myself, Isaiah, and I think.

839
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: It was God on there, and I'm gonna tell you, man,

840
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 2: it was. It was a tremendous honor, you.

841
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 4: Know, so that right there can we built even Morba

842
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 4: bond after all that, and then with all the guys on.

843
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: That team and we built mor of a bond. You

844
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 2: know because of that experiencement.

845
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: You in Miami, and not only did you fell in

846
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: love with the organization, you fell in love with the community.

847
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: Now you fell in love community. You start this dope

848
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 1: thing called zoul somemer grew.

849
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: Lord of Mercy, a lot of mersey that.

850
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: Was about Zoe some a grow how you started. And

851
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: do you remember the first time I came to thold something?

852
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: Because why I don't remember the first time became to

853
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: some But I do remember when you can't, oh, when

854
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: we got a chicken pox.

855
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's because like he was there when we say

856
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,240
Speaker 3: the house the week before I did all the kids

857
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: caps and everything the leading up into it. And that's

858
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 3: what got him saying he missed the whole real week.

859
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: He missed the part of you know, the festival we did.

860
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: We did the community about people.

861
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: Was taking care of you. This share Chary. But listen,

862
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 4: the Groove was a stable in the community. We did

863
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 4: the Groove for twenty years. And I'm gonna tell you

864
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 4: the thrill and the satisfaction of the Groove permeated throughout

865
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 4: the community. And the reason being is because we created

866
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 4: an atmosphere.

867
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: That's the weekend of events unbelieving All.

868
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 4: Star Basketball game, golf to one of it a Galla dinner,

869
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: uh family day where it's like a the world type

870
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 4: of atmosphere and gains prizes, just a very festive type

871
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 4: of atmosphere with radio stations on location. So basically what

872
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 4: it was, and it was it was a four or

873
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: five day weekend. Then we had a comedy show concert.

874
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 4: It was spectacular weekend. It was always almost mimiced All Star.

875
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 2: Weekend for the NBA. But and then we had parties

876
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: every night every night. It was a different part so

877
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 2: so and all of the events that we did. Every

878
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: event generated money towards impoverished communities and children and family

879
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: and low social economic communities. And what my focus was

880
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,840
Speaker 2: was to try to make sure that we brought people

881
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 2: from all races together and culture together to give back

882
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: and understand that their support is helping to change their

883
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: lives of those.

884
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 4: That were less fortunate. And I was able over all

885
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 4: those years. I was able to raise north of.

886
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: Twenty five million dollars over all those years.

887
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:16,320
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

888
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 4: And I was able to get back to the community

889
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 4: on so many different levels, you know, and do that

890
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 4: we were able to build.

891
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 2: This amazing youth center in the community where we provided

892
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 2: educational opportunities for children and families.

893
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 4: Not only that it was a safe having or kids,

894
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: keep them off from the streets. And at the same

895
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 4: time we provided prog onal services to the adults of

896
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 4: the families, whether it be a computer literacy, job training,

897
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 4: how to fill out an application. We had a clinic

898
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: of free clinic inside the center as well.

899
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 2: You know. So now we demnost place and we're building

900
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 2: a state of the yard fifty six thousand squat for

901
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: the facility went from eighteen thousand Scottland swept to eighteen

902
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 2: million dollar project that we're building as we speaking. The

903
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 2: next fourteen months and fourteen.

904
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 4: Months we will do our rbbing cutting and hopefully you

905
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: are ready podcast.

906
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 3: Hey man, listen, I was just about to say first

907
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 3: salute to you on that and continue success. But I

908
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 3: want to say we were there either right after the

909
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 3: overtown was built or when it was just opening. I

910
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: don't I don't know we were at the ground up,

911
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 3: when we were really there when it first got done

912
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 3: for one of those events. So like to see that

913
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 3: and to see how much, you know, how much you

914
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 3: impacted the community, like overall those years. Like first it

915
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 3: was an all star game. Like literally, you have to understand.

916
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 3: We came in in two thousand. We got this is

917
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 3: how it went for us. We got drafted, We went

918
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 3: to La did the whole you know, after the draft

919
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 3: thing with the team, me get tied and do pictures

920
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: and stuff media. The very next thing that we did

921
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: was the summer. This was our introduction to the NBA.

922
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,239
Speaker 3: So we came near everything. We got to stay at

923
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 3: your house. By the way, we had up using a

924
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,600
Speaker 3: soda machine with no coins, just getting you on the

925
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: side of it do it. I was like this was

926
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: a drink. So we get there and then it's like

927
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 3: it's legiti all start game. You had everybody there. This

928
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 3: was right after Vince did the amazing twin leg gun contact.

929
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: Vince was there, t Mac was there, Marl Berry, Iverson,

930
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: twal Walker, Larry Hughes, the names went on. It was crazy, GP,

931
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 3: Pat you and it was just like what is happening

932
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: right now? We was the young boys because you know,

933
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 3: we were with Jeff and you know, you got us

934
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 3: down there and it was like we down here. This

935
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: was the craziest weekend of my life.

936
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,439
Speaker 2: You know, it's so crazy and I gotta go after

937
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 2: this man. But the long and.

938
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 4: Short of it, and I'm gonna tell you, you know,

939
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 4: guys don't play ball in the summer time like that.

940
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, they really don't. They don't get together

941
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 2: and play ball like that anymore. It's crazy, man. You know.

942
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: They got their own individual workouts, which is great. Guys

943
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 4: don't get they don't play ball in the summer like that.

944
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,359
Speaker 2: You have to run. You got to look at search

945
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: and try to find well, who's running, you know. So

946
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 2: it's amazing to me, you know.

947
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 4: And I felt like there was a great opportunity for

948
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 4: us to bond as players, you know, because with the

949
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 4: adversaries during the season and going against each other during

950
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 4: the season, but bringing all of my colleagues from the NBA,

951
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 4: bringing them to South Florida, which was not a difficult

952
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 4: sell to get them to come down.

953
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 2: Mind for women to know that we had, you know,

954
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 2: all of these a very festive atmosphere and parties every ding.

955
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,919
Speaker 2: You know, it really gave us an opportunity and gave

956
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 2: our guys an opportunity, you know, to see what we

957
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 2: had going on down here in Miami. And it showed

958
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 2: other guys how to create their own philanthropic and theres

959
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: in their own.

960
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 4: Cities as well, so they can get back as well,

961
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 4: you know, because that's what the key to it all was.

962
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, I wanted to have a good time.

963
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to have a good time, but I wanted

964
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:02,439
Speaker 2: guys to understand the imports giving back these as.

965
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: It definitely was bigger than that, That's what I got from.

966
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: It was way bigger than just a party.

967
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: Millions and millions and billions of dollars with comedy shows, concerts,

968
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 4: basketball game, we feel the arena. It was just like, yeah,

969
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 4: you know, your family day and everything. You know, it's

970
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 4: pretty amazing. Specially I appreciate.

971
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: You all being.

972
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 3: Hey listen, we just want to I gotta say to you, man,

973
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: we appreciate you. From day one, man, bring us in

974
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 3: your crib, some young chumps that you know you gotta

975
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 3: hang out with you. We looked up to you, and

976
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 3: since that day you straight been a picture of perfection

977
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 3: and how to be a pro. And we watched them far.

978
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 3: We may not talk all the time and I know

979
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 3: you hear from Jay, but were watching. We salute you man.

980
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: You showed us how to impact the community, how to

981
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: be a leader in our community, and how to impact

982
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 3: So we appreciate that. You definitely was one of the examples.

983
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 2: We that's what we can do. Man. We're hearing at

984
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,759
Speaker 2: each other. I'm happy to see you all doing your thing. Man,

985
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 2: this is uh. I've heard a lot of great things

986
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 2: about your podcast. You know, I've just been trying to

987
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 2: wait until I can carve out at the right time

988
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 2: in order to be a part of it. Truly as

989
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 2: an honor my brothers. I love y'all, Man, wish y'all.

990
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 5: Thank you, oh Ja, We appreciate you, man all.

991
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 2: This podcast blows up

992
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