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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation. I am your host, Rashan McDonald.

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Speaker 1: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and

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Speaker 1: do on Money Making Conversations provide the consumer and business

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Speaker 1: His name is Kurt Franklin. He's a six time Grammy

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Speaker 1: to discuss something I'm excited to talking about his new podcast,

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Speaker 1: Good Words with Kurt Franklin almost like good News, a

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Speaker 1: new podcast series that work with people from every cross

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Speaker 1: this daty in February ninth, That's the date. Everybody where.

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Speaker 1: He's in conjunction with Sony Music Entertainment dropping Good Words

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Speaker 1: with Kurt Franklin on the podcast. Please work with the

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Speaker 1: money making conversation. He's my good friend. He's been in

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Speaker 1: my life man since ninety four. I'm from Houston, Texas.

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Speaker 1: He's up in that Dallas, Dallas area, Texas. Boy. Please

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Speaker 1: welcome Kurt Franklin. How you dork, Kurt, How you're doing man? Well,

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Speaker 1: welcome to my new studio, Curry. I'm trying to do it, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to step up man in my game. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, man, you look good, brother, look good. You

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Speaker 1: Thank you. How you been doing? Man? You know we're

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Speaker 1: coming out of going into one. We're talking about new podcast.

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Speaker 1: But let's let's step back a little bit and talk

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Speaker 1: about because it sent me through a lot of changes,

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Speaker 1: tested my faith, tested my patience, sent me through some

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Speaker 1: emotional physical change. That game weight, loss, weight, and anxiety

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Speaker 1: your family and the people who follow you and seek

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Speaker 1: your guidance. Well, once again, man, so honored to see

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Speaker 1: able to give information that that that a lot of

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Speaker 1: I'm part of your congregation. I'm part of the Kirk

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Speaker 1: because the way you approach your teachings and that's how

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Speaker 1: your music motivates me. Do you get it a lot

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Speaker 1: another expression of communication. Like you're saying, reaching people and

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Speaker 1: isn't it exactly? And thank you again, And I'm just

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Speaker 1: continue to take them on, and that the music has

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Speaker 1: different conversations that could happen at the same time that

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Speaker 1: lot more foolishness that I can have fun with and

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the podcasts, and so uh, it just gives you

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Speaker 1: lot of times it's still like a spare time. It's

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Speaker 1: daily existence. So they get frustrated when they see it

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Speaker 1: don't work? I don't see in it's life. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: in when it comes to your life. And so hopefully

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Speaker 1: it does. Even good words will that you hear from

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Speaker 1: other people that you don't see in church all the time,

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Speaker 1: you don't see in church platforms give you a lens

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Speaker 1: of where they are, the good, the bad, the ugly

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Speaker 1: So we last year because of the pandemic, you couldn't

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Speaker 1: I know there's Texas that's where you're based with the festival.

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Speaker 1: Becoming a true entrepreneur? Uh, controlling your destiny? How does

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Speaker 1: it look for oh man? You know we we we

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Speaker 1: times last, you know, And so you have to make

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Speaker 1: sure that you are surrendering your dreams and making sure

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Speaker 1: that each Because here's the thing that I really believe

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Speaker 1: try to proselytize. Yeah, I'm here be because I am

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Speaker 1: a product of grace, of God's grace and mercy. That's

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Speaker 1: the only reason why I get to be part of

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Speaker 1: Uh what that that that that that we have to

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Speaker 1: understand man, that what we believe should be transferable, That

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Speaker 1: it shouldn't be something that just stays with us and

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Speaker 1: dies with us. That it should be something that can

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Speaker 1: be part of the fragment of people's daily existence. And

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Speaker 1: we haven't done that well as as people of faith.

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Speaker 1: We've only made Sunday morning and a Sunday suit the

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Speaker 1: with everything that I'm able to do, whatever God calls

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Speaker 1: me for this year, is that I want to make

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Speaker 1: sure that my dreams and our distractions, and so that

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Speaker 1: the only way to know how to do that is

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Speaker 1: to take my dreams and filter them through my faith.

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Speaker 1: We know the interesting I'm a little shift here. Melanie

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Speaker 1: get access to everything now. You know, I'm moving up

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Speaker 1: in the food chain, not Kirk. You know they get

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Speaker 1: how important she is to me, how I was important

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Speaker 1: that show with your wife. Well, it was just important

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Speaker 1: always looking for moments to showcase and celebrate this incredible

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Speaker 1: I want people to understand that I am what I

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Speaker 1: going to give you the keys to something that you're

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Speaker 1: the good words with with Kurt Franklin. That's right, just

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Speaker 1: on podcast platforms including Apple, Spotify, and Stitcher. Uh, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. Man. You know,

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Speaker 1: I always appreciate you man taking the time to talk

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Speaker 1: to Rashan McDonald man because uh, I know you're busy. Man.

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Speaker 1: I'm just trying to just trying to thank you. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: But you more that man, You inspire me and that

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Speaker 1: remind you. Man. You know, I know, I know people

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Speaker 1: May you may not be talking to me as an individual,

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Speaker 1: but brother, you've saved me a many a day. Man.

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Speaker 1: You've saved me when I'm on the road and I

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Speaker 1: this world. You've saved me when I've been successful. You've

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Speaker 1: can you save you? Because sometimes you need direction when

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Speaker 1: you're successful, because you don't have nowhere to turn. And

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Speaker 1: so that's the layers of life that you've given me.

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Speaker 1: Since you've been into my life, been in my life

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Speaker 1: and I've been there. We've done TV shows together, we've

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Speaker 1: know the relationship we have is beyond just music. And

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Speaker 1: thank you again for coming on Money Making Conversation Man,

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Speaker 1: and again Franklin all major podcast platforms including a podcast,

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Speaker 1: I see you soon, brother, Bro. Love you. If you

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