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Speaker 1: First of all, Happy Independence Day. I hope everyone has

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Speaker 1: a great week. I hope that you're able to take

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Speaker 1: some time off spend it with your friends and family.

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Speaker 1: We've no doubt taken some hits as a country under

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, but this country is still worth fighting for,

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Speaker 1: particularly after so many men and women have laid down

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Speaker 1: their lives in the name of freedom, lay down their

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Speaker 1: lives in the name of this country. So we'll celebrate

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Speaker 1: independence and celebrate the birth of our nation. Today we're

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Speaker 1: going to be talking about medical freedom. One thing that

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Speaker 1: we learned during COVID is just how much power big

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Speaker 1: pharma has over a nation. We also learned that when

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Speaker 1: people like doctor Fauci say things like I am the science,

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Speaker 1: he's not wrong. I mean. One of the conversations we've

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Speaker 1: repeatedly had on this show is about how much power

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Speaker 1: the nih has over research with the grants that they

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Speaker 1: give out. So in such a captured society by both

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Speaker 1: their government and big Pharma, how does the truth ever

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Speaker 1: get to light. Well, talk to someone who's been fighting

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Speaker 1: for to bring it out to the public of the

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Speaker 1: fight for it during COVID. His name's doctor Pierre Cory.

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Speaker 1: He's been on this show, I believe a couple of

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Speaker 1: times already. But he's out with a new book, The

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Speaker 1: War on ivor Mecton, which takes you through his journey,

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Speaker 1: his fight for this, why he fought for it, and

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Speaker 1: also why he was silenced, or at least an attempt

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Speaker 1: to silence him. So we'll get into all of that

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Speaker 1: on the show. I hope you enjoy. Here's doctor Pierre Corey.

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Speaker 1: Doctor Corey, it's great to have you on the show again.

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Speaker 1: How are you hanging in there. It's been a tough

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Speaker 1: couple of years for you, though, hasn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really, It's been quite the journey. But you know,

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Speaker 2: I'll say this that the transition was rocky rough, But

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Speaker 2: you know, I've landed in a new place and I'm

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Speaker 2: actually doing pretty well. I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: And I only laughed because you kind of have to

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Speaker 1: otherwise it's just all too depressing. You know, you got

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Speaker 1: to have some levity injected in this world of nonsense

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Speaker 1: andaos that we live in. You know, doctor Kurey, you

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Speaker 1: really took on the mantle of pushing for ivermectin in

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Speaker 1: the country, you know, despite attacks, despite you know, people

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Speaker 1: trying to take your license you know all these different things.

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Speaker 1: Why go so hard for ivermectin.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, right, So, I've been a medical

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Speaker 2: educator my whole life or my whole career, and it's

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Speaker 2: what I really enjoyed. I loved teaching residents and students,

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Speaker 2: myself in COVID, when myself and my partners we identified

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Speaker 2: the data signal around ivermectin, like I mean, we were

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Speaker 2: we were in the middle of a pandemic. I mean

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Speaker 2: and hospitalizations feeling and as a physician, you have a solution,

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Speaker 2: and you know morally and ethically and professionally responsible to

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Speaker 2: disseminate that. And you know, we couldn't stop. Knew that

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Speaker 2: was our one. We had to do it. We knew

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Speaker 2: that i've remetin was crushing COVID, and what we didn't

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Speaker 2: know is that we were up against a massive force

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Speaker 2: evidence of efficacy for ivermectin, and we didn't know that

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Speaker 2: going in. I mean when I gave my testimony went viral.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we were we were ecstatic. We thought, like

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Speaker 2: we brought that information to the world.

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Speaker 1: Doctors like you who you know, kind of went against

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Speaker 1: dirt cheat, you know, if anything. You know, you took

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Speaker 2: There's nothing to gain, you know, if people have accused

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Speaker 2: I think we were a pretty impressive force. Sorry, I

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Speaker 2: But we had nothing to gain. We were just trying

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Speaker 2: That was shocking. I mean, our collective careers ended. We

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Speaker 2: had like really celebrated careers in academic medicine, and all

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Speaker 2: of us are now unemployable by that system. I mean

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Speaker 2: Paul Merrick, you know, my partner and co founder. He's

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Speaker 2: second edition. Umberdo Maduri, who you know, forty years world

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Speaker 2: we had a lot to learn. And what I've learned

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Speaker 1: That's what's very scary about where we are now is

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Speaker 1: just the power big pharma has. The power that you know,

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Speaker 1: the NIH and the CDC that they have collectively and

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Speaker 1: being able to silence doctors that go against the narrative.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how does any doctor actually practice real medicine

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Speaker 2: You can't inside the system. The system's locked and closed now,

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Speaker 2: you know. I called the system the health system, the

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Speaker 2: big you know, multi hospital healthcare systems, the academic medical centers.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that, I mean, not inside the hospitals.

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Speaker 2: In private practic this if you know anything about the

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Speaker 2: recent history of medicine, private practice has been dying for

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Speaker 2: a couple of decades. I mean most doctors are now

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Speaker 2: fully employed by that system. But the one last remaining

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Speaker 2: refuge is private practice, you know, independent practitioners where you

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Speaker 2: don't have a boss, you don't have an administration over you.

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Speaker 2: You're the boss. And those physicians like myself now we

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Speaker 2: have very wide autonomy. I still got to watch out

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if you know this, but I

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Speaker 2: and I have to use lots of different repurposed medicines

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Speaker 2: come down on me in two seconds. What I'm doing

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Speaker 2: is not evidence based, is insufficient evidence, and it's mal

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. But I'll tell you we have

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Speaker 2: and they're like, I just had COVID last month, Like

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Speaker 2: crazy stuff coming out of doctor's mouths because of the

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Speaker 2: relentless propagandan censorship, and the doctors have fallen for these

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Speaker 1: Do you think the government wants to kill private practice

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Speaker 1: in America?

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Speaker 2: You know, I do think that because if you look

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Speaker 2: some of the chronic line disease experts, phenomenal physicians, and

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Speaker 2: they've been under attack by those institutions of medicine. And

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Speaker 2: you know, is it market forces that disappeared private practice?

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Speaker 2: Like you know, one of the allures of working for

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Speaker 2: you have some benefits, you don't have to manage or

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Speaker 2: administrate your practice. And I don't know if this generation

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Speaker 2: but there has been an exorable shift towards more and

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Speaker 2: it's partly the money. Those systems started buying up medical practices,

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Speaker 2: if it was a concerted thing or some sort of

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Speaker 2: much in their interest to disappear private practice. They would

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Speaker 2: that's what I see is this very curated, very narrow

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Speaker 2: would say, you know, academic and system medicine, it's very narrow.

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Speaker 2: The curriculums are narrow. All of the widely available kind

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Speaker 2: they're actively they're not funded for research you'll never get

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Speaker 2: you'll never provide sufficient evidence to adopt those treatments, and

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Speaker 2: so they're going to remain on the outskirts. But I

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Speaker 2: And so I find that my new kind of career

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Speaker 2: we're like learning on the ground how to treat this

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Speaker 2: vaccine injury. Since they're wickedly complex. The patients are super sick,

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Speaker 2: and we're trying to figure it out the best we can.

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Speaker 2: The system's not helping us. Actually, I'll give you an

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Speaker 2: They have apparently five clinical trials they've designed. Only one

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Speaker 2: in that first trial, packs loavid. An absolute joke for

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Speaker 2: long COVID. They want to use packs load. It's absolutely just.

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Speaker 2: I got to tell you that the system has failed

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Speaker 2: in every respect in COVID, and I think that failure

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Speaker 1: What kind of vaccine injuries are you saying?

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Speaker 2: So what I see is what I call vaccine injury syndrome,

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Speaker 2: and I differentiate that than a vaccine injury complication. So

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Speaker 2: the difference between the syndrome of complications complications just generally

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Speaker 2: like single organ dysfunction like a paracarditis, a miorcarditis, a stroke,

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Speaker 2: a heart attack, right, And what I see is the

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Speaker 2: syndrome which is really most almost identical to what we

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Speaker 2: call chronic fatigue syndrome or myalgic encephalitis. And all the

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Speaker 2: patients that I see, they come with three core symptoms,

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Speaker 2: and they're debilitating symptoms. One is incredible fatigue, the other

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Speaker 2: is post exertional malaise, and the third is brain fog,

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Speaker 2: some sort of cognitive deficit where they have problems with

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Speaker 2: And the patients are really so many of them were

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Speaker 2: in the height of health before they're vaccine, like eating

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Speaker 2: many of my patients are disabled. And you know, those

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Speaker 2: are just the three core symptoms, and then they come

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Speaker 1: Well, I think one thing we've learned throughout COVID is

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Speaker 2: epithemiology is screaming, and those excess tests are still firing

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Speaker 2: along at rates we've never seen before. And COVID is

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Speaker 2: weak now and very few people in the hospital, very

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Speaker 2: few people dying from COVID, but we're seeing immense amounts

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Speaker 2: of excess death. And that is that is some of

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Speaker 2: the consequences to what they did in COVID, and they're

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Speaker 2: trying to hide it, trying to ignore it. They're trying

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Speaker 2: to they're hoping that this isn't gonna come out. But

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Speaker 2: I'll say one last thing is that I also consider

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Speaker 2: my book a history book. I want this document what

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Speaker 2: they did here. I want the world to know, and

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Speaker 2: I want people in the future to know what they did,

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Speaker 2: because they're gonna do it again. They do it all

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Speaker 2: the time, and we're gonna have more health crises that

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Speaker 2: either they're gonna concoct or they're gonna come at us,

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Speaker 2: and their responses are going to be again, it's gonna

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Speaker 2: be profits first and patients last.

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Speaker 1: Well, one of the things I also learned during COVID is,

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Speaker 1: you know, you've got doctor Fauci saying things like I

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Speaker 1: am the science. But he's right in the sense of

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Speaker 1: the NIH controls so much research that we see in

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Speaker 1: this country through grants, and so to some degree he's

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Speaker 1: not wrong. It's not because he is a science, but

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Speaker 1: he's allowed to control it.

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Speaker 2: That is so try Like you said, he says I

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Speaker 2: am science, and you could laugh at him at that

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Speaker 2: statement on the superficially, but from what you just said,

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Speaker 2: you are right that guy controls literally the entire research

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Speaker 2: funding margint and we put more into medical research in

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Speaker 2: any country in the world, and the world looks to

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Speaker 2: us for our research, and he literally works for Puma.

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Speaker 2: He has made decades of attacks. He does not fund

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Speaker 2: stuff into research, medicines, into vitamins, things that are really

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Speaker 2: safe that could totally prevent illness. I mean we have

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Speaker 2: an explosion in chronic illnesses under his watch. I mean

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Speaker 2: he's decimated the health of our society and that science.

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Speaker 2: No he's not science pharma, but he controls all of

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Speaker 2: science and that part about the control of the funding.

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Speaker 2: A friend of mine wrote an article on substack, really

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Speaker 2: brilliant friend, great writer, and he talked about he looked

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Speaker 2: at data around innovations in medicine and if you look

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Speaker 2: back like thirty forty fifty years, there were very high

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Speaker 2: rates of kind of breakthrough discoveries. I mean, if you

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Speaker 2: of money spending medical research, it's all kind of iterative.

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Speaker 2: It's all kind of around the same concepts that there's

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Speaker 2: the amount of breakthroughs in medicine because they're not trying

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Speaker 2: out or testing new ideas, new insights, new approaches unless

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Speaker 2: it's going to serve pharma. And I got to tell

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Speaker 2: you it's destroying our knowledge base as a society and

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Speaker 2: as a globe. And that's not an understatement, and the

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Speaker 2: consequences are just again, I didn't think about this stuff.

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Speaker 2: I didn't understand the implications. You know that the presence

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Speaker 2: of that control and really what the downstream consequences are,

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Speaker 2: and they really are indescribable.

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Speaker 1: You know the books called the or on Ivermectin. Why

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Speaker 1: do you think there was a war on Ivormectin? Was it?

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Speaker 1: Is it all profit driven? Was it political?

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Speaker 2: You know what?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So, Lisa, that's like I wouldn't say my least

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Speaker 2: favorite question because because here's what I answer that to.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm most comfortable laying the incentive at the

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Speaker 2: profit level because people can understand that you don't have

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Speaker 2: to go a few levels into conspiracy theory and some

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Speaker 2: of the layers of really who was doing what in this?

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Speaker 2: But I think I think there were other objectives at

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Speaker 2: stake here, more than just making money. It's uncomfortable to

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Speaker 2: talk about maybe not on your show.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, you can talk about it here.

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Speaker 2: Is this the right place to be really?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure as sure this is what we do here, doctor?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Because no, I mean when you look at like,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Department of Defense involvement, how like Farmer

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Speaker 2: was literally working for the military. This was a military

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Speaker 2: exercise response to a Bible weapon, and so you know

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Speaker 2: that the military role you know, when you look at

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Speaker 2: the ethics of the way we practice, the ethics around vaccines.

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Speaker 2: So you just gave that example of you going into

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Speaker 2: your doctor and this doctor's trying to boost you and

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Speaker 2: you're like, what, I had COVID, I'm young, I'm healthy.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, these vaccines don't even really work that,

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Speaker 2: they don't really not encouraging from them. They don't appear safe.

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Speaker 2: I mean all of that. And when you look at vairs, right,

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Speaker 2: so THEYIRS right now, I think we're well over eighteen

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Speaker 2: thousand deaths reported and that's the only problem with THEIRS.

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Speaker 2: It's underreporting, and by a factor anywhere from ten to

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Speaker 2: one hundred times. The injuries are well over a million.

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Speaker 2: And yet I saw our entire society just ignore all

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Speaker 2: of the death and carnage and just vaccinate, vaccinate, vaccinate.

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Speaker 2: And it finally clicked one day. I was like, that's

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Speaker 2: because we're in a military exercise. That's military ethics, right,

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Speaker 2: where you sacrifice one hundred men to take a hill,

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Speaker 2: right because you got to take that hill. So they

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Speaker 2: were marching towards something. It wasn't about medicine, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: about our health. And you know, and the world went

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Speaker 2: mad from propaganda and censorship, and so you go to

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Speaker 2: the level of the military, and then when you bring

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Speaker 2: in WF and Bill Gates, I mean Bill Gates's power

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Speaker 2: and complicity in all of this is immense, and I

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Speaker 2: don't know what his objectives are about, you know, a

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Speaker 2: depopulation agendas on the cards, and I you know, I see,

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Speaker 2: I don't like going here, Lisa, because I like to

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Speaker 2: stay in my lane as an empt. But I've been

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Speaker 2: living in this world that can't help it. That's all weird.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't A lot of things don't add up. And

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Speaker 1: one thing we know for sure is the one thing

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Speaker 1: that they're not encouraging people to do, which would probably

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Speaker 1: save the most lives, is just to be healthy and

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Speaker 1: to lose weight and eat healthy and get vitamin D

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Speaker 1: and yeah, just live a healthy life.

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Speaker 2: If I had been in charge, or me or any

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Speaker 2: number of my colleagues, I mean, I would have done

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Speaker 2: immediately a national campaign billboards, get your Vitamin D level check.

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Speaker 2: We would put out guidance for you know, replenishing your

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Speaker 2: vitamin D. You get everybody's D levels, tell people to

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Speaker 2: get in the sun, do everything you could, and just

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Speaker 2: that alone would have made a major impact on the

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Speaker 2: mortality morbidity that we had to suffer from in the

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Speaker 2: last few years. But yeah, you're totally.

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Speaker 1: Right, crazy crazy times. It's still you know, obviously still

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Speaker 1: dealing with so much of it from the krushed economy,

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Speaker 1: crushed lives, vaccine injuries, all of it ruined careers, right,

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Speaker 1: people lost their licenses, doctors lost their jobs at universities. So,

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Speaker 1: doctor piter Corey, I appreciate your fight and the writing

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Speaker 1: this book and in the books out right, is it

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Speaker 1: wins the book out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can buy it on Amazon or Dell. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's on the imprint for I can which is del

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Speaker 2: Big Tree's nonprofit so it's ICAM dot org. You can

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Speaker 2: buy it from there as well. And books doing really well. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I'm very very happy, not only you know, I'm self

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Speaker 2: interested in being accessful, but I got to tell you, Lisa,

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Speaker 2: my motivation was really to teach. I want the world

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Speaker 2: to know what happened here, what went on, and what

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Speaker 2: they're going to learn in that book, I think is

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Speaker 2: even to the most studied COVID observer, I think they're

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Speaker 2: going to be shocked at what I write about.

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Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you bring it to the forefront. It's

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Speaker 1: important to have these well, it's important to have conversations

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Speaker 1: that they don't want you to have because that makes

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Speaker 1: means they're actually important, so you know. But doctor Pier Corey,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. The war and ivermectin is out,

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Speaker 1: as you just said, so go out and get it.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate you taking the time, Sir.

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Speaker 2: Lisa, my pleasure. Really thank you.

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Speaker 1: That was doctor Pierre Pory. Appreciate him taking the time

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Speaker 1: to join the show. I want to thank you guys

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Speaker 1: at home for listening every Monday and Thursday, but you

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Speaker 1: want to thank John Cassio and my producer for putting

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Speaker 1: the show together. Until next time.