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Speaker 1: Sports Radio Hour two.

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Speaker 2: On this Thursday, we'll check in with the Chargers quarterback

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Speaker 2: Justin Herbert the Hall of Fame game Tonight it'll be

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Speaker 2: the Chargers and the Lions. That'll be from Canton, Ohio

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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated with this stat, but I keep an eye

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Speaker 2: on it. Four shutouts on Wednesday. The seasonal total major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball two hundred and thirty two shutouts. Only one

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Speaker 2: other year in baseball history has more shutouts before the

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Speaker 2: month of August, and that was twenty fourteen. When they're

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Speaker 2: two hundred and forty two. I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: reason is, other than maybe it's feast or famine. I

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Speaker 2: throw it hard, you swing really hard, either hit home

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Speaker 2: runs or you get shut out. Also you Heno Suarez

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Speaker 2: has thirty six home runs. He was traded to Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Back to Seattle, he was with Arizona. The thirty six

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Speaker 2: home runs are the most of any player at the

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Speaker 2: time they were traded during a baseball season. The previous

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Speaker 2: mark was thirty four and it was Mark McGuire. He

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Speaker 2: went from the A's to the Cardinals in nineteen ninety seven.

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Speaker 3: Who Stall of a Day, Stalladay, Stallava Day, Stannata Day.

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Speaker 2: So the baseball trade deadline later on today and probably

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Speaker 2: a flurry of activities with the National League East, but

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Speaker 2: a lot of middle relievers were exchanged. But one big hitter,

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Speaker 2: Uheno Swarez is from Arizona to Seattle Sea. Ana's got

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Speaker 2: a good lineup, sneaky lineup there. So the Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame game coming up tonight, and we'll talk to CC Sabathia,

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Speaker 2: Philip Rivers will join us, and Justin Herbert will join us.

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Speaker 2: Coming up here in a little bit, Rob in Orange County, Hi, Rob,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 4: By Dan? And thank you for having me. You know,

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to share a little Phillips Rivers story.

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Speaker 4: Two of them there, PG. But he used to live

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Speaker 4: in Santa LUs with me, and there's two. We went

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Speaker 4: to the same church, Church of the Nativity. And after

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Speaker 4: we signed his second big contract, I walk outside and

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Speaker 4: I see him change in one of his kids diapers

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Speaker 4: and the back of his I think it was an

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Speaker 4: esca ladder or something like that, and it's just what

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Speaker 4: a humble Manny is, you know, great guy. And then

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Speaker 4: the second funny story is we used to play basketball

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Speaker 4: at Santa Luis and you was a basketball expert. Dan

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Speaker 4: would no, you got to pass the ball open up shots. Well,

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Speaker 4: a friend of mine who's also famous, but I didn't

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Speaker 4: I'm not allowed to use his name right now, said Philip,

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Speaker 4: aren't you don't you play in the NFL. And Philip said,

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Speaker 4: of course, you know that, and he said, well, they

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Speaker 4: passed me the damn ball. He was slam duncan all

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Speaker 4: the time. And it was just funny. And Philip's a

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Speaker 4: great guy anyway.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, Rob. He's got ten children.

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Speaker 2: I think he's got a sprinter vent. I think I

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Speaker 2: asked him the last time about that. Can you get

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Speaker 2: everybody into one vehicle? I think he got himself a

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Speaker 2: sprinter van. I think his youngest is six oldest is

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Speaker 2: probably eighteen, but I think he's got ten. Yeampau.

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Speaker 5: How many college quarterbacks come out of that group gotta

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Speaker 5: be like three, right, odds are genetics.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how good the arms are on his

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Speaker 2: Maybe they're playing flag football, but yeah, you should be

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Speaker 2: Eric in Wisconsin, Hi, Eric, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 6: DP six foot five, two thirty five, Long time, first

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Speaker 6: time I see you guys, got our voice CC coming

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Speaker 6: on the show later on. What do you think about

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Speaker 6: our first place Milwaukee Brewers this year?

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Speaker 7: How do they keep doing it?

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Speaker 2: Give them credit? You know, it's not a fluke. It's

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Speaker 2: it's one of those where you look at middle of

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Speaker 2: May to now, I mean, this is incredible baseball that

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Speaker 2: And he hasn't been there that long, but long enough

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Speaker 2: to more phone calls coming up. It's kind of interesting

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Speaker 2: Lance is going to play tonight. He's going to play

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Speaker 2: He was at what Clemson, Florida State, and then Washington State.

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Speaker 2: I really liked him at Tennessee and he's the Lions

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Speaker 2: Trey Lance. I just don't know how two bright minds

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Speaker 2: say we're all in on Trey Lance and then Trey

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Speaker 2: Lance can't play football now. Granted he only played like

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Speaker 2: twelve games in his college career, but he bounced around.

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Speaker 2: Now as a backup quarterback with the Chargers. Got a

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Speaker 2: lot of talent, But I like, what's missing here? What

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Speaker 2: so that you're just looking at him and go okay.

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Speaker 2: And he had mobility, he had all right, he had

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Speaker 2: everything ready to go. Niners like, that's our guy. We're

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Speaker 2: going all in John Lynch, We're going all in Kyle Shanahan.

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Speaker 2: And they whiffed on him, and then other teams Dallas

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Pauline, I just double checked it. Trey Lance has

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Speaker 5: just turned twenty. It's not over. He was the youngest

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Speaker 2: But he wasn't better than Cooper Rush. And this is

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Speaker 2: in conversation of hey, we should trade for that guy.

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Speaker 2: Is he better than Anthony Richardson. I'm just throwing this out.

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Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson's, you know, got a lot of promise and

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Speaker 2: he's what twenty or twenty one years of age, But

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Speaker 2: Trey Lance was supposed to be the guy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, I think if you go back to it,

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Speaker 5: it was twenty and twenty or Trey Lance had thirty touchdowns,

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Speaker 5: fell in love with him. Then he had the next

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Speaker 5: It was almost like an exhibition.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so the.

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Speaker 5: Sample size on him was one season in twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 2: But I thought there was somebody in between the East and.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I think there was a there was a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Easton Stick was with the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he was a backup.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean when you talk about a bust,

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Speaker 2: his name's up there, you can put him there with

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Speaker 2: we should put the person who drafted him up there.

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Speaker 2: At least put the GM up there with the player.

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Speaker 2: Did Bobby Bethard draft Ryan Leaf with the Chargers or

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Speaker 2: did they have a different GM? Oh no, they had

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Speaker 2: a who was the GM at that?

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Speaker 2: Okay? But they should have There should be blame to

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Speaker 2: go around a little bit there, you know, JaMarcus Russell

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Speaker 2: with the Raiders who drafted him, Yes, Todd.

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Speaker 10: Unless there's some type of arrogance where the person's like,

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Speaker 10: you're gonna all pay the price that you didn't pick

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Speaker 2: Bobby Bethard's a Hall of Famer, the late Bobby Bethort.

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Speaker 2: He drafted, he was brilliant at drafting, but he drafted

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Speaker 2: Ryan Leaf, but you don't. That doesn't go against his resume.

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Speaker 2: But you know, when you have bust at quarterback, and

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Speaker 2: usually that's the only position we look at at a

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Speaker 2: the value that we attached to that position, Yes, Marvin.

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Speaker 2: But you're looking at guys who didn't play that much.

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Speaker 2: Zach Wilson didn't play that much. It goes back to

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Speaker 2: what my source tells me when he's analyzing these players.

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Speaker 2: How many games can I look at? Because I want

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Speaker 2: to see everything that happens. I want to see when

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Speaker 2: you have the five touchdown day. I want to see

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Speaker 2: when you have the five interception day. I want to

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Speaker 2: see everything. But if I'm only seeing the good, because

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Speaker 2: the NFL is not just the good, it's the bad

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Speaker 2: and the ugly, and that's what you want to see

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Speaker 2: because you want to see in the maturity of a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I want to see, all right, are you leading people? Now?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing? How are you doing it? Is

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Speaker 2: it sustainable?

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Speaker 7: You know?

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Speaker 2: Are you somebody who complains? Are you moping? Do your

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 2: There's so much that factors into this, and there's so

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Speaker 2: many things, the subtleties of being a great teammate. And

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Speaker 2: I think that's where you're trying to figure all of

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Speaker 2: this out. But how do you whiff on Trey Lance?

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Speaker 2: How do you go all in and so all in

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Speaker 2: that you go up and getting Mitchell Trubisky was a

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Speaker 2: serviceable quarterback. I mean he he had one good year

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Speaker 2: of football. And that's where you know, we talk about

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Speaker 2: arch Manning as if he's going to be in Canton.

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Speaker 8: I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: Now, does he have a head start, yes. Is he

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Speaker 2: I don't know how great he is, Like how low

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Speaker 2: have no idea, And I don't think anybody can tell

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Speaker 2: Help me understand the offensive philosophy, because statistically they weren't

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Speaker 8: I think one of the things that I really respect

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Speaker 2: Okay, but what's that clock like in your head when

436
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Speaker 2: you go back to pass? At what point do you go,

437
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Speaker 2: uh oh, like, I now I gotta start and I

438
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Speaker 2: gotta have my head on a swivel.

439
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Speaker 7: Yep.

440
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Speaker 8: As soon as you get to the top of your drop,

441
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Speaker 8: where you're where you're dropping back, and you know, it's

442
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Speaker 8: it's either a quick setup where you're hoping the ends

443
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Speaker 8: go around you and the tackle is push them up field,

444
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Speaker 8: or you're finding a lane to run through. But it's

445
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Speaker 8: it's quick, and you know, that's just how how fast

446
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Speaker 8: those guys are on defense, and you gotta protect them all.

447
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Speaker 8: You gotta avoid sacks. And you know that's something that

448
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 8: you know, Coach Harbaugh talks about all the time. So

449
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:29,359
Speaker 8: we're gonna get better at that this year.

450
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Speaker 2: What was your welcome to the NFL hit?

451
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Speaker 8: I would say I was rolling out one year, tried

452
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Speaker 8: to make this this play where I could spin in

453
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Speaker 8: the pocket and just kind of run around, and then

454
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Speaker 8: I got hit by Max Cropby and I didn't even

455
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Speaker 8: see him, and uh, that was when I was like, Yeah,

456
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Speaker 8: these these guys are much faster than I am. I

457
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Speaker 8: I got to be able to step up throw it away.

458
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Speaker 8: Taking a sack is not the worst thing, but you know,

459
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Speaker 8: running into that thing that was.

460
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Speaker 2: Well, and you know Peyton and Tom Brady, two of

461
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 2: the greatest ever, had no problem just kind of going

462
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Speaker 2: into the fetal position instead of you know, you left

463
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Speaker 2: to live to call another play. And that's hard for

464
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Speaker 2: you because in college and high school you could get

465
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Speaker 2: away with this stuff. In the NFL, you can't. How

466
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Speaker 2: tough is that to go just take a sack or

467
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Speaker 2: just throw it away.

468
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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's the tough part, because, like you said,

469
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Speaker 8: high school and college, you'd be able to make some

470
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Speaker 8: of those plays, and you know, you'd get reward for

471
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Speaker 8: making a crazy play like that, and then you come

472
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Speaker 8: to the NFL and you know, everyone on defenses is

473
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Speaker 8: faster than you and you know, sometimes it's okay to

474
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Speaker 8: you know, wave the white flag, go down and live

475
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Speaker 8: for another play where you know, a sack is is

476
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Speaker 8: not as bad as a fumble and a throwaway is

477
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Speaker 8: not as bad. So it's just kind of living through

478
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Speaker 8: that list and making sure that you're you're protecting the

479
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Speaker 8: ball and putting the team in a good position to win.

480
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Speaker 8: Who's your rival, shoot, I would say We've We've got

481
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Speaker 8: a lot of rivals. I definitely would say the Chiefs,

482
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Speaker 8: Raiders and the Broncs. I think the AFC West is competitive,

483
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Speaker 8: and you know, we've we've definitely, you know, had our

484
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Speaker 8: fair share of competitions with those guys. Chiefs have gotten

485
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Speaker 8: us the past few years.

486
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Speaker 2: But do you hate, like, do you hate one of

487
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Speaker 2: them a little more than the other ones?

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Speaker 8: I would just say that the it's been a little

489
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Speaker 8: upside of the past couple of years, and that's just

490
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Speaker 8: something that we you know, we've got a great opportunity

491
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Speaker 8: to play them twice this year, and you know, we

492
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Speaker 8: know how good they are and how much success they've

493
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Speaker 8: had in the league over the past several years. So

494
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Speaker 8: it's always a good opportunity for us to go play

495
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Speaker 8: and be the team that we want to be.

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Speaker 2: What advice would you give a rookie quarterback. Let's say

497
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Speaker 2: cam Ward calls you up and said, give me some

498
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Speaker 2: advice on what it's like.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say to sacrifice now so you can

500
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Speaker 8: enjoy everything later. Just to go through everything and you know,

501
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Speaker 8: watch an extra hour of film, you know, do an

502
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Speaker 8: extra hour of recovery, make sure you're taking care of

503
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Speaker 8: your body, and you know there's always going to be

504
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Speaker 8: times to you know, go hang out with your friends

505
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Speaker 8: and do all these extracurricular activities. Uh, but right now,

506
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Speaker 8: you're a quarterback. You know, a team, has a franchise,

507
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 8: has put their trust in you to leave this entire

508
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Speaker 8: organization and to make sure that you're doing everything you

509
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Speaker 8: can for your teammates, the coaching staff, the community, because

510
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 8: it's really important. And at the end of the day,

511
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Speaker 8: if you're doing that, you're you're in good steps.

512
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Speaker 2: Wait, did you give me an organ organization? Did you

513
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Speaker 2: give me a Canadian organization?

514
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Speaker 8: Organization?

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounded like, you know, maybe maybe that's Canadian

516
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Speaker 2: you were, you know, proximity there. But the organization you

517
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Speaker 2: gave me an organization which is what they do in Canada,

518
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Speaker 2: so don't want you to think too long and hard

519
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Speaker 2: about them. Maybe if you know any Canadian roots in

520
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Speaker 2: your family.

521
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Speaker 7: I don't.

522
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Speaker 8: I don't think so, not that I'm aware of.

523
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Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to make sure you gave me

524
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Speaker 2: a little organization. Hey, great to see you again, and

525
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Speaker 2: uh we'll be uh well, well you're not going to

526
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Speaker 2: be doing anything tonight, so I was going to say,

527
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,479
Speaker 2: we'll be watching, but you're going to be watching too.

528
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Speaker 8: I'm going to be sporting the team. I'm gonna be

529
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Speaker 8: out there, you know, offering help whatever I can. So

530
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Speaker 8: thanks for joining us. Yeah you bad, Thank you.

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Speaker 2: That's Justin Herbert. Last year regular season stats twenty three

532
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Speaker 2: and three, twenty three touchdowns, three interceptions, thirty eight hundred

533
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Speaker 2: yards like those are all really good numbers. But then

534
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,360
Speaker 2: you know that coach Harball loves to run the football.

535
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Speaker 2: But that can make as you know, Justin says he

536
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,400
Speaker 2: play action. Now all of a sudden they buy into

537
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Speaker 2: play action. I always thought it was funny when you'd

538
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: see these teams that couldn't run the football, but they'd

539
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 2: run play action. And I'd be like, if I'm a

540
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: defensive player, I'm going to expect you to pass all

541
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Speaker 2: the time, because if you want to run the ball,

542
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Speaker 2: give it to your running back. We'll be fine with that.

543
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 2: We can adjust. But I always thought Boomers size and

544
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Speaker 2: might have been the best play action quarterback that I

545
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Speaker 2: ever saw. With his ability to look like he was

546
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Speaker 2: handing the ball off. I thought slight of hand. The

547
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Speaker 2: Siasin was magical.

548
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Speaker 8: He was great.

549
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Speaker 2: And what they'll do, you know, you want to have

550
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: people watch. It's like pictures will do this. They'll be like,

551
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: watch me, watch film, Tell me what you see? What

552
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 2: am I doing? What can you tell that it's going

553
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 2: to be that pitch. You want somebody to look at

554
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: you and give you honest opinions on that. And it's

555
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: the same thing with the quarterback. Look at this from

556
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Speaker 2: a defensive backs perspective? Are you buying this with my

557
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: play action? And then he's talking about footwork that I'm

558
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: looking at Drew Brees footwork. I'm looking at Tom Brady's footwork.

559
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: And what he's talking about is you get in the rhythm,

560
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 2: you know, because everything's timed, you know, fractional seconds here,

561
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,159
Speaker 2: it's so so quick, and to be able to have

562
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Speaker 2: rhythm it's going to be a seven yard out, it's

563
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 2: going to be something fifteen over the middle, it's going

564
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: to be a deeper pets. So everything's going to be

565
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Speaker 2: in rhythm. And I think that's what Tom did so

566
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: well because it looked like Tom. All he did is

567
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 2: just stand there, but while he did all the other

568
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 2: little things that he did. And quarterbacking is is about

569
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Speaker 2: stuff that you do that's on the periphery, like the

570
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: subtleties of what you do and being able to do

571
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Speaker 2: it and do it in a way that's convincing, knowing

572
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: where somebody is. The eyes. You know, these defensive back

573
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 2: talk about quarterbacks eyes all the time, and you know

574
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: sort of that game within the game of all right,

575
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Speaker 2: I'm going to lead you over here, leads you over here, No,

576
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm throwing over here. Well, the defensive back is doing

577
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: the same thing. He's oh, I'm going to act like

578
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 2: I'm going over here. I know you're going over here.

579
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Speaker 2: I'm fascinated with the game within the game. Yeah, PAULI.

580
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Speaker 5: I saw a piece just the other day about this

581
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Speaker 5: with Joe Burrow, and they said Joe Burrow is not

582
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Speaker 5: a scrambler nor a runner. He's just a motion pocket guy.

583
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Speaker 5: That's the phrase they used, Like he moves in the

584
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Speaker 5: pocket without leaving the pocket, but he always has his

585
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Speaker 5: eyes downfield. He never turns his head to look at

586
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Speaker 5: what's around him, and that keeps a play a lot.

587
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 5: But they were focused on how his head stays downfield

588
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 5: while his feet are just shuffling.

589
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: A couple of phone calls in here Chris in Vegas, Hi, Chris,

590
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: what's on your mind today?

591
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Speaker 1: They're going DP.

592
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Speaker 9: I just wanted to go back to the whole quarterback

593
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Speaker 9: situation as far as like not having enough starts and

594
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Speaker 9: being younger guys. I think a lot of these guys

595
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Speaker 9: that are coming in should It's almost like it's mandatory

596
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 9: they should sit.

597
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Speaker 13: You know, you got guys that go to.

598
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Speaker 15: Bad situations and then they get label bus you know,

599
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Speaker 15: I e. Johnny Manziel or even Baker Mayfield and then

600
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Speaker 15: Baker goes to Tampa Bay and he's super successful now.

601
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Speaker 15: So like I just feel like these guys need a

602
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 15: more little bit more time, you know, let him sit,

603
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Speaker 15: let him get the Aaron Rodgers treatment or some of

604
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 15: these other guys that have sat and have learned and

605
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Speaker 15: didn't become successful.

606
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Speaker 9: I think that it.

607
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Speaker 15: It just goes back to that, like they're not getting

608
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 15: enough knowledge of the game before they get thrown into

609
00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 15: the fire.

610
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Speaker 2: Well, let's take Johnny Manziel out of that, because Johnny

611
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: wasn't mature. You know, Johnny wanted to play by the

612
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: seat of his pants like you did in college, and

613
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: you can't do that in the pros. H Baker, I thought,

614
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: and he played well a couple of seasons in Cleveland.

615
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 2: I just think it started to go south when they

616
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 2: got Odell Beckham and he wanted to Playkate obj and

617
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 2: went out of his way to try to find him.

618
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: And Jarvis Landry to me, was a better wide receiver

619
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Speaker 2: with the Cleveland Browns. But you know what happens if

620
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Speaker 2: you're a young quarterback and you got a guy who's

621
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Speaker 2: six or seven year veteran wide receiver, tight end or

622
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: running back and or like, hey, I'm open man. And

623
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Speaker 2: I think that's hard too, because you're in you're in

624
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Speaker 2: the huddle, and these guys will talk to you, they'll

625
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: come back and say something to you. How would you

626
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: act react to that? But they've played so much. Cam

627
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: Ward probably has fifty starts in his college career. Jayden

628
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 2: Daniels had over fifty, like sixty, Dylan Gabriel sixty. I mean,

629
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Speaker 2: that's an incredible amount of football that you've played, and

630
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: so I have a better sense of who you are,

631
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: what kind of player you are. You know you're playing

632
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 2: twelve or fourteen. That's just tough. And even Justin Herbert,

633
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Speaker 2: I thought Justin Herbert was going to be more like

634
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. I thought that because if you go back

635
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: to that Rose Bull, I think he had a couple

636
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 2: of long touchdown runs or at least one long touchdown run,

637
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, get him out, let him

638
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: use his legs now, don't invite contact like Josh Allen does,

639
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 2: but I would. I would have him out there and

640
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: just give you something else to think about. Bud in

641
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: South Carolina High, Bud, what's on your mind today?

642
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: How you doing?

643
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Speaker 4: Guys?

644
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Speaker 12: Good people talking about the quarterback situations, everything like that

645
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 12: about said or Sanders and everything. But no one realized

646
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 12: that Charlie Ward went to Florida State one nights and

647
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 12: talking didn't even just selected.

648
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 8: In the NFL.

649
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 2: Well, they thought that he was going to play basketball.

650
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: And we've had Charlie on the show, and I think

651
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 2: Charlie could have been a good NFL quarterback, but it's

652
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 2: it's a different era now. Now we want the quarterback

653
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Speaker 2: who will get out on the edge, the guy who

654
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Speaker 2: can be a runner, not just a thrower. You know,

655
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 2: let's go back to Lamar Jackson. I kept I watched him.

656
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: I go, that guy's great, the guy's great, and then

657
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: it'd be yeah, but it's throwing motion. But bah blah,

658
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Speaker 2: but but but but but but buck and I always

659
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: look at this and go, you still have to deal

660
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Speaker 2: with him.

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00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 13: Now.

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00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: He may not be the prototypical Dan Marino, Matthew Stafford

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00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: stand in the pocket, you're sixth he's not, but he's

664
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Speaker 2: something different. It's the ability of offensive coordinators to have

665
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 2: an imagination, to to not be locked in on this

666
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: is how you play football. And that's what's changed dramatically.

667
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 2: You know, football used to be boring. It was run, run,

668
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: third down, five yards, first down, run, run, throw the ball, punt.

669
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: Then it started to you know, get a little money.

670
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: The AFL opened the eyes of the NFL because it

671
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: was wide open. Then you bring along Dan Marino with

672
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 2: what he did. It was just different. Five wide, don't

673
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 2: need a running back, and that changed football as well.

674
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: You know what the greatest show on turf did? You know?

675
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: So there have been some innovators, but then you still

676
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 2: have kind of the old school that says, no, this

677
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: is how my quarterback is supposed to play. It's changing.

678
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 2: Charlie Ward was a great athlete and he was six',

679
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: three but he did have a good END nba. Career

680
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: he probably you had a better career in THE nba

681
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: than he would had THE. Nfl probably made some pretty good.

682
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: MONEY i think he's now a high school. Coach, Yeah.

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00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 5: PAULING i went back to that ninety THREE nfl draft

684
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 5: When Charlie ward did not get, picked and it's all tall,

685
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 5: Guys Trent, Green Elvis, Gerbach alex Van, Pelt Mark, Brunell Rick,

686
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 5: Meyer Drew, bledsell all, classics six' four drop. Back quarterbacks

687
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 5: you can maybe make the Case That michael vick broke.

688
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 5: The mold was that two thousand and one where he

689
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 5: was so electric that he pushed his way to the

690
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 5: number one pick where he's run first.

691
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 2: Past, second yeah but then you had, people, say well

692
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 2: he's not a, great passer a great, pocket PASSER and i,

693
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: always go but look at what he what else. He

694
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 2: does he's putting so much pressure on. A defense i

695
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: mean when he Was In, virginia tech.

696
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: It.

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00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 8: Was amazing he.

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00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,720
Speaker 2: Was, Amazing Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Martin Else Freshman michael vick also.

700
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: Good point. Good POINT but I unless i'm wrong. On That,

701
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 2: WITH charlie i think that he was going to play IN.

702
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: The nba did He get was he a third round

703
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: pick or IN. The nba i'm trying. To remember it

704
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: feels like he was a late first. Round, pick oh

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00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: he was a late first round pick IN. The, nba, Correct, right, okay,

706
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 2: okay yeah he was wonderful. College quarterback, all right let

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00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: me take. A break got more. Phone Calls philip RIVERS

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00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: And cc sabathia coming up in the final hour of.

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Speaker 2: poll results and then we're gonna talk about betting on.

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00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: Preseason football dylan's going to join us on loan From

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00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: The Dan patrick Takes a. Gamble podcast so if you'll

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00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 2: update the, Poll, Results, seaton yeah i'd dabby if you

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00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 2: had to give up one, watching football meat. Or beer

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Speaker 2: and then the other question is if you had to

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Speaker 2: give up one, watching football meat or alcohol. And cigars

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00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: it is a fairly shocking to me, that beer alcohol

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Speaker 2: and cigars is running away. With that and then it's

727
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Speaker 2: almost an even tie between football. And meat we find. That,

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Speaker 2: interesting okay that's each one of those has about ten

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00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: percent of. The vote fritzie stood Up so dylan could.

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00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: Sit down dyl part Of The, gambling podcast the latest

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Speaker 2: episode later Today With bad Larry And. Shan, Irming, so

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00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: dyl what do you have for a preseason football? Action tonight, All, Right,

733
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 2: dan well it's sort of like The Degenerate new. Year,

734
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Speaker 2: today yeah. Everything's fresh we've got a. Good one i'm

735
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 2: going With the lions minus one and a half Against. The,

736
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Speaker 2: chargers okay for one, Specific reason dju looks like he's

737
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: going to play in the, second half and he is

738
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: squarely on my list of unbettables.

739
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 8: From, college okay.

740
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 2: So he's going to be Leading the chargers in the

741
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: second half that according to. The, internet okay he's, always reliable,

742
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: always reliable, All Right.

743
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 16: And i'm going to Take the chargers over one twenty

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00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 16: five team rushing yards between Him And. Trey lance they

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00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 16: may get that on, their, own okay, all Right sprinkle

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Speaker 16: Omari and, Hampton.

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00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 2: Too okay anything else that we should be.

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Speaker 16: Aware of race to, Twenty points dan neither plus one Thirty.

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Speaker 2: Five finals, Nineteen sixteen no the over unders. Thirty, Two

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Speaker 2: yeah i'm thinking maybe like a sixteen fourteen Would Be

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00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: i'm i'm gonna go. Seventeen fourteen i'm gonna, go under and,

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00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 2: once again entertainment purposes. Only, only YEAH because i used

753
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: to bet on preseason football and that. Was sad it's

754
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: a sad State of but back then you had players

755
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: who did play in. The preseason at least you had

756
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 2: a reasonable facsimile of the lineup that you would have

757
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 2: during the. Regular season, Thank. You Dylan that's Dylan From

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00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: Dan patrick Takes a. Gamble Podcast, hey dylan Available at danpatrick. Dot,

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00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: COM yeample i have a follow Up. For, dylan oh

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00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: as an.

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00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 5: Expert, gambler, well no he's not AN expert a season, the, gambling, yes,

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00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 5: okay yeah. TECHNICALLY professional i know you guys, miss gamblers,

763
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 5: miss football so you bet. On preseason but isn't preseason

764
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 5: football the least predictable of?

765
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 4: All?

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Speaker 16: SPORTS yeah i mean it's really stupid. To bud you

767
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 16: have had no idea. Who's playing it doesn't really matter,

768
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 16: at all there's nothing on. The LINE but i think

769
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Speaker 16: any gambler will just say it is something to. Bet

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Speaker 16: on i've been on, spring, training, Yeah, Baseball yeah i've been.

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00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 2: ON that, i mean if you want, to bet you

772
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: can pretty much place a bet on just about any

773
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: kind of, sporting Event as dylan. Has proved oh, yeah,

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00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: yeah cricket sign. Me UP oh, i know, Thank. YOU

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00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: dylan i thank More. From dylan that'll be later on

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00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: today at danpatrick. Dot Com dan patrick takes, A gamble Jack.

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00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: And tulsa, Good. Morning jack what's on your? Mind today good,

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Speaker 2: morning morning long.

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00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 7: TIME listener i, love you, love YOU said. Espn, DAYS

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Speaker 7: yeah i got two. Quick things yesterday you were Talking

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00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 7: About brad pitt was side club when you knew he.

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Speaker 7: Could act he had already been Nominated For Best actor

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00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 7: Oscar For, twelve monkeys which was a bizarre, surprise ending

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Speaker 7: kind of M Night seah, milan movie really. Crazy movie

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Speaker 7: the ending was kind of. A surprise the other, thing

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Speaker 7: is we're gonna hate when you leave your, Life family

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Speaker 7: why don't you keep? It going call the New Show

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00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 7: Dan Patrick's dan hits with a rotating host every week

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Speaker 7: or guest host. Every week we don't want to see.

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Speaker 2: You, go well, Thank.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 2: JACK now i made up my Mind super Bowl. In

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Speaker 2: atlanta my career Started in ATLANTA, at cnn and it

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Speaker 2: seems like a fitting place to say goodbye. AFTER that i,

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Speaker 2: don't know, you know is there something down the road

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Speaker 2: where it's a once a week PODCAST or i. DON'T

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Speaker 2: know I just i made a Decision and i'm comfortable with.

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Speaker 2: That DECISION and i didn't See The Brad Pitt. TWELVE

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Speaker 2: monkeys i did not. See That But, fight club. That's

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Speaker 2: Great brad pitt was great in. That movie but, in fairness,

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00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: you know getting nominated For An, ACADEMY award i did not.

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00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: SEE that i didn't See The the vampire Movie With.

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00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: Tom cruise what was that in Set In new orleans

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Speaker 2: interview with, The, VAMBERIS yeah i didn't see that. ONE

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Speaker 2: either I don't i don't know if he was good

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00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: in that movie. Or not, but yeah there's usually a

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00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: movie where, you go that's when that guy became or

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Speaker 2: she became something more than. Just that, all right Coming Up,

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00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: final hour gonna. Be busy Ce see sabathia fresh Off

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00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: the Hall, of fame and we'll Talk To, Philip rivers fritzy's.

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Speaker 2: Favorite quarterback are you gonna say anything to him that

812
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 2: you have called him? A whiner i don't. Think so

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00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 2: if it comes up, IN conversation i have to stick to.

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00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 10: My Guns but i'm not looking at stunts.

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00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 2: Up there you won't answer the phone, and, say hey. No,

816
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 2: Whining no i'm gonna hang under the table and duck for. Coverage,

817
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: that no you to answer the phone when, he CALLS

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00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 2: but i won't.

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00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 13: Bring up the.

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00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 11: Whining Thing chos.

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00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 10: He Whines

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00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 2: Final hour on the way