1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Second hour, Clay and Buck kicks off right now. The 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: big news of the day just broke in the last hour. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: Attorney General Merrick Garland has appointed a special council to 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: investigate Hunter Biden's criminal dealings. That's right, the president's son 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: now has a special council looking into his clear crimes. 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: There's a special council looking into Joe Biden's mishandling of 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 1: classified documents. 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: There is a special. 9 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: Council looking at Trump for his handling of classified documents 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: at mar A Lago and for January sixth and election 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty allegations. You know, at some point you start 12 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: to wonder, do we have elections in this country? Do 13 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: we just have prosecutions? Like what is going on here? 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: It's completely out of control. I do think that this 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: is getting to the place where people recognie, this is 16 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: not normal, it's not the way it's supposed to be, 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: and the weaponization of law is something that is bad 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: for the country overall. But I don't know when they'll 19 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: I think they still believe that Trump will be the 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: loser on all this, both legally and politically, so they're 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: going to hold out. So this is what Clay and 22 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: I were discussing before because Okay, at first, at first 23 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: brush it's, oh my gosh, this is so bad for 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,279 Speaker 1: the Bidens. It's clearly not a good thing for Hunter Biden, 25 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: or at least I should say it's concerning for Hunter Biden. 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 1: But we did have a caller before, and I think 27 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: this is fair to point out Weiss has been involved 28 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: in this all along. Weiss, it seems, was willing to 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: play ball at some level with Hunter. I think that 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: the challenge that he ran into here in part was 31 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: of the Democrats making because Clay he is clearly in 32 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: violation of the Foreign Agents Registration Act. And this is 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: the part of it, because they're to keep saying, oh, 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: Hunter just took money, but he didn't. There was no 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: corruption because he didn't do anything. He didn't have any power, 36 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: and there was no quid pro quo. Yeah, but when 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: you're taking money from China to sell and you're saying 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: it's because you're gonna give them access and you don't 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: register as a foreign agent, that's a crime. Now generally 40 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: people don't care. But why do people care so much 41 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: about it now, or at least why do we care 42 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: about it? Because the Mueller prosecution. The Muller Special Council 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: used Pharah aggressively. They sent I think Manifork got four 44 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: or five years on the Pharaoh charge. So he got 45 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: sent to federal prison. It's a maximum of five years. 46 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: He got sent for a good stretch under the Farah regulation. 47 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 1: So if he did it and he went to prison, 48 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 1: why should Hunter Biden put to prison clearly guilty of 49 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: the same conduct. That then goes to why the plea 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: deal blew up at this point because they wanted to 51 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: get a get out of jail free card on Pharah 52 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: as well as the tax violations, as well as the 53 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: gun charge lying on a background form. So you got 54 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: all these moving pieces, Clay, there's the possibility still that 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,919 Speaker 1: they'll give him some kind of a sweetheart deal. I 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: would not rule that out. But what about this, what 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: about this, This is what we were just talking about. 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: What if Hunter Biden says no jail time for me, 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: and they say, sorry, we can't do it. You're gonna 60 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to do a stretch, and then Under says, well, 61 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: let's let's take this to court. Yeah, let's go to court, 62 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: and let's see. Think of what Hunter then has at 63 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: his disposal. He will have a jury Delaware. Presumably all 64 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: you need is one Biden voter in the election year 65 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: who decides, ah, I don't care nullification. And let's be honest, 66 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: we've been saying that we think they'll probably be Florida nullification. 67 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: In the Trump case, all he use one Trump voter 68 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: who realized what a sham it is. Now we would 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: argue that's a sham and this isn't. But that's not 70 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: the point. The point is all you need is one 71 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: demo on that jury. But even if he gets convicted, 72 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: he can probably delay the start of his sentence until 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: after the election and or at least after November. And 74 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: if he delays this, I do not believe they're going 75 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: to fast track the Hunter Biden trial. If he wants 76 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: a trial, I think they're going to it's gonna be 77 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: kind of normal process. To your point, Clay about usually 78 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: Trump should be able to push all this past the election. 79 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: But it's not gonna happen because they're not what I 80 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: should say, It doesn't look like it's gonna happen. So 81 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: if Hunter is able to push this to where he 82 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't serve a day in prison until after November, of 83 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Joe Biden can run. Joe Biden can 84 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: say the process is playing out, my son gets no 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: special treatment, look at the Special Council, and then after 86 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: election day, depending on how that goes, pardon Hunter. No problem, 87 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: that's right. I mean, how do you how do you 88 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,239 Speaker 1: see this one? That's a really good that's a really 89 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: good theory. 90 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: If Biden wants to run, you cannot pardon your son 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 3: before the election, because I think that would be catastrophic 92 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 3: to Joe Biden's chances to win reelection if he's running. 93 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: Your point is, if he loses the election, he still 94 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: has the ability to pardon his son in November, December, January, 95 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 3: before the new president has sworn in, and if that occurs, 96 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 3: then there's no political consequences. Joe Biden's political career is over. 97 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 2: Anyway. 98 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: There would probably be negative articles written about it, but 99 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 3: there are lots of presidents who give pardons to people 100 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 3: with significant relationships with the president on their way out 101 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: of office. That's not uncommon in larger context. So I 102 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 3: think your point on that is the way that he 103 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: would do it if he were going to pardon Hunter. Now, 104 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: I actually think so there's a couple of other things 105 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: we should mention. 106 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: Buck. 107 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: One, A lot of people are reacting and saying this 108 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 3: is designed to protect Hunter Biden and Joe Biden from 109 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: the consequences of the investigation that's going on inside the 110 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: House of Representatives into the Biden crime family corruption. I 111 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 3: understand that argument. I don't think this puts that on ice. 112 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 3: And we should also give credit to Shapley and the 113 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 3: other individual the IRS agents, the whistleblowers who came out 114 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 3: and said the brig job Ziegler. 115 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 2: I think that's right. 116 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,119 Speaker 3: Both of those guys are heroic in this story as well. Now, 117 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: I do think this is important. Weiss is in many 118 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 3: ways corrupted because he already agreed to this sweetheart This 119 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 3: is the new special counsel who had already been investigating 120 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden for years. He already agreed to this sweetheart deal. 121 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 3: So do we really think that he wants to catch 122 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: the Biden crime family in misbehavior. 123 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: I think the answer is no. 124 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 3: We really need optics on the investigation, Buck, because wood 125 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 3: wis really open a full on investigation into Joe Biden. Now, 126 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: because remember that's what the IRS special agents wanted. They 127 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 3: wanted to be able to follow that thread of who's 128 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: the big guy, where is the money coming from, so 129 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 3: that it directly led from Hunter to Joe Biden. Because 130 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: what the media is still trying to say now is oh, 131 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: Hunter's awful. But they keep saying there's no evidence that 132 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 3: Biden profited in any way off of Hunter Biden the 133 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: business deals that he was doing. Now, of course, there's 134 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: plenty of evidence that he did. There is all sorts 135 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: of a smoking gun evidence that Joe Biden was involved 136 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: in this, but so far they're claiming that he wasn't. 137 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: So what is. 138 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: Weiss actually gonna do here? That's the question. You can 139 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 3: have special counsel status. And there's a great point by 140 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: our caller at the end of the at the end 141 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: of the hour when he said what the media should 142 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: definitely be focused on, and we're gonna certainly hammer this. 143 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: Merrick Garland said that Weiss needed everything everything he had. 144 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 3: He didn't need special counsel status, He didn't need any 145 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: of that. He said he had all the authority that 146 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 3: he needed. Okay, then what changed because Merrick Garland in 147 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 3: this statement said on Tuesday that Weiss now said I 148 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: need special counsel status, and he claims He's never made 149 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 3: that request before. 150 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: What changed that on Tuesday? 151 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: Suddenly Weiss needs the ability to conduct a more extensive 152 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: investigation here. I think that's a very reasonable question that 153 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 3: Merrick Garland probably the first question that should be asked. 154 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: Merrick Garland, you said that Weiss had all the authority 155 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 3: he needed. What changed on Tuesday that you now need 156 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 3: to appoint him special counsel. 157 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: Also, the facts are not in dispute, so generally you 158 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: have the appointment of a special counsel. I mean, and 159 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: at the most basic level, this is because you can't 160 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: trust you know, who's going to watch the watchers, right, 161 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: you can't trust the White House to investigate itself, correct, 162 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: And so that means that you need to have a 163 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: somewhat different chain of command at least day to day 164 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: for the operations of the investigation and the decision for 165 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: there to be an indictment, for there to be charges brought. 166 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 4: Right. 167 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:23,439 Speaker 1: That's that's all it is. The investigation's basically done. We 168 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: already know there are a lot of criminal acts that 169 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden is guilty of, so that's and he was 170 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: about to take a plea deal to them. So that's 171 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: not a surprise at all, why do you even at 172 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: this point need a special counsel? And then that's kind 173 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: of what you got something new. 174 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: I've just got some news here that we should also add, 175 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 3: and this comes from CNN. Plea talks between Hunter Biden 176 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: and the Justice Department are at an impasse and a 177 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 3: trial is now likely. The prosecutor leading the probe set 178 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: in a court filing Friday. The court filing was made 179 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 3: as Garland was speaking. So that's the answer, Buck, I 180 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: was saying, what change on Tuesday? It sounds like the 181 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: Hunter Biden team is basically saying, we're not changing this 182 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 3: plea agreement. 183 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: We'll go to trial. 184 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: Yes, and they're doing that because their dad's the president, 185 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: and they figure they can stretch this out and Hunter's 186 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: never probably going to actually spend a day in prison. Look, 187 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: if Hunter had to spend do you think Hunter would 188 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: spend a month or two in federal prison and let 189 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: his dad run. Here's something interesting, Buck, they may not 190 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: be able to get this trial done before the new 191 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: president comes in. Potentially, Well that's why there's no Generally, 192 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: you take a plea deal because you know a federal 193 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: a federal prosecution will bankrupt you. And if you lose, 194 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: you are going to prison for a long time. Someone 195 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: else is probably going to pay hunters bills. Here, here 196 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: for the for the defense, and beyond that play if 197 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: he can delay this, even what it's August, now, you 198 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: can delay this thing a year. His chance of actually 199 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: going to federal prison is basically zero, So why not 200 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: take it to court so you might get lucky. I 201 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: think you've hit on what the new strategy is. The 202 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: new strategy is, hold on as long as you can, 203 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 1: and if we win the election, Joe will pardon you 204 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: after he's already won the election. If we lose the election, 205 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: then Joe will pardon you and there are no consequences 206 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: before the election. You know how you'll know this is 207 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: the strategy. Everybody remember this if all of a sudden 208 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: over at CNN and you know, Mourning Joe and the 209 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: MSNBC primetime shows, the New York Times editorial board. The 210 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: fallback had always been, Joe just loves his son. It's 211 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: a father's love for his son. 212 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: That was the way. 213 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: If they start saying, see, Joe Biden is so committed 214 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: to the rule of law that he would let his 215 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,959 Speaker 1: own son suffer the consequences. I know as I say that, 216 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: you're like seething. You know what crap that is. If 217 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: they start to say that it is one hundred percent 218 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: the plan, The plan is to let him fight it, 219 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: go to court, delay it, and he knows he'll get pardoned, 220 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: won't spend not only won't spend a day in prison, 221 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,559 Speaker 1: there's no dab. If he loses Clay, he won't even 222 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: have a felony on his record. He could still do 223 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: whatever he wants to do. So here's something else that's 224 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: significant here. Let's take away the analysis and all those 225 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: other things. CNN and MSNBC, in the New York Times, 226 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: in the Washington Post have mostly been telling their audience 227 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: this is a made up Republican fever dream. It now 228 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: becomes and this goes to whether Biden is going to 229 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: be the nominee. 230 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: Buck. 231 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 3: It now becomes impossible for all of the propaganda left 232 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: wing media to claim that there's nothing to this story 233 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 3: at all, the appointment of the Special Council, even if 234 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 3: the rig job is still in effect, Even if we 235 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 3: have and I think we have correctly deduced to what 236 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 3: the strategy now is from Hunter Biden. The fact that 237 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 3: this judge refused to rubber stamp. The plea agreement means 238 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: that this is a legitimate story of inquiry. Right, You 239 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: can can't argue once a special council is appointed, Oh 240 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 3: that's all made up, that's Fox News, that's Clay and Buck, 241 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: that's a right wing fever dream. There's nothing inappropriate that 242 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 3: hunter Biden has done. To your point, the argument probably 243 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 3: will switch to Joe Biden so committed to the rule 244 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 3: of law that even he will investigate his own son. Yeah, 245 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: I get it. But an investigation by that special council 246 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: means that this is a big story, and so it's 247 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 3: hard to argue that there is nothing substantive here. 248 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: I think that's right in this case. I would just 249 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: remind every one of the there is a special counsel 250 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: looking at Joe Biden's conduct. And we've heard how many 251 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: times we even heard about that Clay since they appointed it. 252 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: Remember it was about a year ago they appointed it, 253 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: or maybe about ten months ago. I've heard nothing. Have 254 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: you ever heard of anything? No? 255 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: Zero? 256 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 3: And by the way, the DJ's put out a special release. 257 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 3: We need to read this when we come back, because 258 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: there's some interesting stuff in this release from the Department 259 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: of Justice, making the announcement of and this just got 260 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 3: forwarded to me. I think we should read that too. 261 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: Man. 262 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 3: A lot of different things happening all at once, and 263 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 3: we've got the best guest imaginable by the way, lined 264 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: up for you, Julie Kelly at the bottom of the hour, 265 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: Andy McCarthy at the top of the next hour, and 266 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: Senator Ted Cruz in the third hour. We've got the 267 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 3: absolute best analysis I think you're going to find of 268 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: this blockbuster news anywhere in media as it is happening 269 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: in real time. 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Donate eleven dollars a 287 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 3: month at t twot dot org. That's t the number 288 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: two t dot org. 289 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 5: Helping you separate truth from fiction and every single weekday 290 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 5: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 291 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. I'm reading 292 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: from the official announcement of the appointment of a special 293 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: Council here, Buck, and this is really the question. We 294 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: don't know what Weiss's investigation is going to look like, 295 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 3: and certainly there are reasons to question whether or not 296 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 3: it's going to be free. But the official appointment of 297 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 3: the Special Council here says that Weiss is now special 298 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:13,479 Speaker 3: counsel for the ongoing investigation and prosecutions referenced and described 299 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 3: in United States versus Robert Hunter Biden. And this is significant, Buck, 300 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: as well as for any other investigation that sorry, as 301 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: well as for any other matters that arose or may 302 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: arise from that investigation. Remember what the IRS agents testified 303 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: to in front of Congress, the whistleblowers. They said they 304 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: weren't allowed to pursue any connection to Joe Biden. Would 305 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: would Weiss be able to try to pierce that veil, 306 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 3: to try to break that wall that has been built 307 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 3: to protect Joe Biden from the actions of Hunter Biden 308 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 3: a truly independent prosecutor. Would that is something to pay 309 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: attention to here as it pertains to Biden's viability going forward. 310 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: If you start to get leaks to the New York 311 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: Times in the Washington Post suggesting that Joe Biden is involved, 312 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 3: that would be a sign fully that the code read 313 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 3: was underway and that Biden wasn't going to be the nominee. 314 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 3: And if you weren't going to be the nominee, the 315 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 3: other way to handle this, Buck is he would prosecute 316 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 3: I mean, sorry, he would I think go ahead and 317 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 3: give Hunter that plea, give him that give him that 318 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 3: ability to avoid the pardon. He would do it after 319 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: the election anyway, because he wouldn't want it to infringe 320 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 3: upon whomever else might be running to replace him as 321 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 3: a Democrat. If they're looking at Hunter, I mean, sorry, 322 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:45,719 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, I would be shocked. I do not believe 323 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: that they will go after the sitting Democrat president in 324 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 3: any meaningful way with the Special Council. 325 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: But Clay, if they do, it's game over for twenty 326 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: twenty four. If that comes out and there's something and 327 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: there's basically if they find like three million dollars or 328 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: five million dollars put in a bank account that was 329 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: Joe's by Hunter, it's it. That's game time. 330 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: You know who moved through the edge of his seat 331 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 3: really aggressively this morning at twelve fifteen, My boy Gavin Newsom, who, 332 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: by the way, happens to have a debate coming up 333 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 3: against Ron De Sants. It's probably just coincidental timing. I've 334 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 3: been on the road a lot doing my book tour 335 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 3: for American Playbook. 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With Julie Kelly also her 356 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: book January sixth. Should definitely pick up a copy you 357 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: know about what happened there. 358 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 2: Julie. 359 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: Let's get your reaction to the appointment, because I got 360 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: to tell you about Andy McCarthy on later. Andy is 361 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: pretty salty about it. He doesn't think this is the 362 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: Gears of Justice grin, you know, moving the way they should. 363 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 6: No kidding, really it's not. I mean the universal reaction 364 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 6: on our side and even Congressional Republicans now the Judiciary 365 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 6: Committee and the Oversight Committee have issued statements that this 366 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 6: is sort of a cover up operation, that this will 367 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 6: prevent now David Weiss from testifying before Congress, which he 368 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 6: was planning to do I believe in the next week 369 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 6: or so, and of course gives cover to the Biden 370 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 6: regime and dj and everyone else and Hunter Biden and 371 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 6: Joe Biden to produce records, documents, testimony, etc. To Congressional investigators. 372 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 6: I mean, I believe it was just yesterday or two 373 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 6: days ago that James Comer, chairman of the Oversight Committee, 374 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 6: suggested that they would be subpoena in Joe and Hunter Biden. 375 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 6: So the timing of this is very suspicious. Of course, 376 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 6: you don't trust anything that comes out of this Department 377 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 6: of Justice, anything that comes out of Meeric Garland's mouth, 378 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 6: because everything is so weaponized and politicized there. So I 379 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,680 Speaker 6: don't think anyone believes this is a legitimate will be 380 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,360 Speaker 6: a legitimate investigation whatsoever. 381 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: Okay, I agree with all of that, Julie. 382 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: Here's what I would say, And maybe I just tend 383 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: to be super positive in general, I think the only 384 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 3: and I'm curious how you would analyze this. 385 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: Clay's so positive all the time. 386 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 6: What's wrong with you? 387 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: So I want to start with this. 388 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 3: Do you agree with me, Julie, that if the judge 389 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: in Delaware had not refused to rubber stamp this, there 390 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: would not have been an appointment of the special Council, 391 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: and the Bidens would have swept this all under the 392 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 3: rug and they would claim this is all decided. And 393 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: what I mean by that is this is actually not 394 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: something that the Bidens wanted to do, because right now 395 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: the lead story on CNN and MSNBC and the Washington 396 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 3: Post and the New York Times is the appointment of 397 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,479 Speaker 3: a special counsel. And as you well know, because you've 398 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 3: been dealing with it for years, people have been wagging 399 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 3: their finger at you for your reporting and saying this 400 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 3: is all made up, this is a right wing fever dream. 401 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: There's nothing here at all. It's now impossible for the 402 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 3: Biden administration to argue there's no here at all. Now, 403 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: Buck may be right. They may say this shows that 404 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 3: nobody's above the law, including the president's son. But that's 405 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 3: a new argument from oh he didn't do anything, Oh 406 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: there's nothing here. 407 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 6: Well, yes, I mean, obviously you have to give credit 408 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 6: to the judge because these federal judges, for the most part, 409 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 6: and as you guys know covering my work, especially in DC, 410 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 6: are nothing more than a rubber stamp for DJ. So 411 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 6: we have to really commend judge. I think Nori Yeka 412 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 6: I want I believe that's how you pronounced her name. 413 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 6: So she was the one who really exposed the sham 414 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 6: Sweetheartlee deal. Well, what it looked like in a separate 415 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 6: filing that was just filed and I posted it on 416 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 6: my Twitter as well, is that David Weiss, in a 417 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 6: filing today, said that negotiations had broken down between the 418 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 6: government and Hunter's legal team, and now he wants to 419 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 6: tax matters referred back to the original jurisdiction where it 420 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 6: should have been in Central California and a district of Columbia. 421 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 6: That's where the alleged tax crimes occurred between twenty fourteen 422 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 6: and twenty ninet team. So that's a whole other wrinkle. 423 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 6: You kind of have to read through that filing and 424 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 6: consider the political ramifications of that. I will tell you 425 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 6: off the bat, the idea that Matthew Graves, the DCUs 426 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 6: attorney who is a Biden appointee, whose wife had a 427 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 6: large nonprofit in Washington and has been at the Biden 428 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 6: White House at least thirty times since he was elected. 429 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 6: The idea that Matthew Graves is going to fairly investigate 430 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 6: orcall whistleblower said he declined to prosecute Hunter Biden's twenty 431 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 6: fourteen and twenty fifteen text crimes when they brought it 432 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 6: to him earlier this year. So Matthew Grays is not 433 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 6: going to do anything with this. So that's part of 434 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 6: a sham as well. But look is definitely I guess, 435 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:51,479 Speaker 6: gives some legitimacy to the or some public coverage, at 436 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 6: least for Republicans who have been saying everything that's been 437 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 6: coming out in their investigations related to Joe and Hunter Biden, 438 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 6: that this is legitimate. It's now been kind of given 439 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 6: Merrick Garland's impromoter, but I think there's greater reason to 440 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 6: suspect that their political motives behind the scenes at play, 441 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 6: rather than something forthright coming out of a corrupt DJ. 442 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: Julie, I want to ask you about what's going on 443 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: in DC for Trump in a second. But first, just 444 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: do you think that there is any real chance that 445 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden goes the Hunter Biden gets convicted before the 446 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: election and Joe Biden has to step in and pardon 447 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: or commute his sentence. 448 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 6: No, no, not at all. I mean these tax crimes. Furthermore, 449 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 6: especially in DC, it looks like the statute of limitations 450 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 6: has run out anyway, even if he is conducting afar 451 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 6: of the Foreign Lobbying Registration Act investigation, which of course 452 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 6: should have been done years ago into Hunter and Joe Biden. 453 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 6: If David Wise is actually conducting, that's he's going to 454 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 6: delay this until after the election. Even if he brought chargers. 455 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 6: There's no way a trial would take place in any 456 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 6: jurisdiction before the election. So no, I mean, so he 457 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 6: won't be convicted before the election. There wouldn't be an 458 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 6: opportunity in my view, to pardon him. Now if he 459 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 6: takes a separate plea deal, I guess he could. You 460 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 6: could still pardon someone for a plea deal. 461 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: I think. 462 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 6: Yes, So, I mean, I guess that's a possibility, but 463 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 6: there would I just as in the two Trump matters, 464 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 6: the Hunter Biden, even if he's charged, it would be 465 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 6: almost impossible to put these on trial before November of 466 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 6: twenty twenty four. 467 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:32,159 Speaker 1: Julie, are there is the request from the prosecution you 468 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: think for the DC trial to start in January? Do 469 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: you think that's going to go through? 470 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: No? 471 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 6: No, And Jack Smith knows that this is another ruse 472 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 6: coming out of the Special Council's office, So yesterday he 473 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 6: files emotion seeking for jury selection to begin at the 474 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 6: end of December and a January second, twenty twenty four 475 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 6: trial date. Today there was a huge hearing on this 476 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 6: protective order for Judge Tanya Chuckkin, and Jack Smith disclosed 477 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 6: that they already had upwards of sixteen million pages of 478 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 6: discovery and evidence in the January sixth case, and that 479 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 6: they are going to start producing that to Trump at 480 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 6: the end of the month. So how are they supposed 481 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 6: to go through just those documents in a matter of 482 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 6: a few months and then be prepared for trial. Jack 483 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 6: Smith knows that this is not going to trial in 484 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 6: January but what he wants to do, what he kind 485 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 6: of did in classified documents is set up that Donald 486 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 6: Trump is the one who wants to delay the trial. 487 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 6: He will for good cause for many reasons, not the 488 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 6: least of which is this huge volume of discovering evidence 489 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 6: against him that all of his lawyers have to go through. Furthermore, 490 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:43,439 Speaker 6: the judge today placed pretty strict restrictions on how Donald 491 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 6: Trump and his team can access discovering materials. And get this, 492 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 6: they pulled out the old well, most of the evidence 493 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 6: in this case is sensitive material? How could it be 494 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 6: sensitive material? When he cut and pasted his indictment from 495 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 6: the January sixth report, which is over eight hundred thirty pages, 496 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 6: none of that is sensitive or classified per se. So 497 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 6: now they're pulling more games. They know that this will 498 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 6: delay the process. I still believe they're going to bring 499 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 6: superseding indictments against Trump in this matter. So it's just 500 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 6: more more publicity, more games, playing another speaking so to speak, 501 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 6: motion out of Jacksmith and so what happened today and 502 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 6: that hearing was pretty outrageous as well. 503 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: Okay, Julie, big discussion that Buck and I have been having, 504 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 3: and look, this discussion has been going on for months. 505 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 3: How does today's special Accouncil appointment in your mind implicate 506 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 3: whether Joe Biden is going to run or not? Buck 507 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 3: and I have been talking about that. You will know 508 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: that basically the code red has been ordered on Joe 509 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: Biden when suddenly people start to cover and write about 510 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 3: and discuss all of the Briden crime family implications. To me, 511 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 3: a special Council appointment makes that more likely. Do you 512 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: think Biden is going to be the nominee? Do you 513 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: think he will be the candidate for Democrats next year? 514 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 7: I do. 515 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 6: I don't see anyway that he voluntarily relinquishes the presidency 516 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 6: or you know, the second term. The person who absolutely 517 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 6: will never let him do that is his wife, Jill, 518 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 6: and certainly a staff around him. I mean, you just 519 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 6: don't give that up. Now with the flip side is 520 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 6: most I think a strong majority of Democratic voters do 521 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 6: not want Joe Biden to be the candidate in twenty 522 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 6: twenty four. But ultimately that's his decision. And he's now 523 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 6: blocking out other candidates except for Robert Kennedy Junior. But 524 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 6: you know, shut off any fundraising, So it looks like 525 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 6: there might be people waiting in the wings, Kevin Newsom, 526 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 6: Gretchen Whitmer, maybe Jav Pritzker who would step in and 527 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,719 Speaker 6: run if something does happen. But Joe Biden is not 528 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 6: going to suddenly declare that he's not running for president. 529 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 6: I still believe that he will be the Democratic candidate 530 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 6: running against Trump in twenty twenty four. 531 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: I think so too, Julie, real quick, before we let 532 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: you go, this tell us about this this order from 533 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: the judge or this commentary from the judge that Trump 534 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: is a flight risk. 535 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 6: Oh gosh, wow, that seems like a year ago and 536 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 6: it was just yesterday. But yes, but we found out 537 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 6: this week is that Jack Smith, working with DC then 538 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 6: DC Chief Judge Beryl Howell, forced Twitter to not only 539 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 6: turn over every all the data related to Donald Trump's 540 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 6: Twitter account, but also put a non disclosure order on 541 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 6: that basically a gag order preventing Twitter from notifying their user, 542 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,280 Speaker 6: Donald Trump, that this action had been taken. And when 543 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 6: they didn't, Twitter, of course, you know, was trying in 544 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 6: a few days to comply with the subpoena deadline. They 545 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 6: blew past it for fifty one hours later with a 546 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 6: lot of other ramifications. They're the DOJ playing games, of course, 547 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 6: fifty one hour delay before they produced everything, and Beryl 548 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 6: how at the request of Jack Smith, find Twitter three 549 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 6: hundred and fifty thousand dollars because they said that they 550 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 6: were violating the terms of the subpoena. I have a 551 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 6: whole piece on that up at my subject if people 552 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 6: want to read it. Just more outrageous conduct misconduct by 553 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 6: Jack Smith with the full impromoter of judges on the 554 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 6: DC District Cord. 555 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 1: Julie Kelly may be talking to you a lot. Thanks 556 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: for being here. Check out Julie's declassified substack, folks. You 557 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: can subscribe to it online. Go to substack, type in 558 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: Julie Kelly declassified pop up. 559 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: Thanks so much, No Clay, I was just going to say, 560 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 3: you're killing it, Julie. We appreciate, we know how busy 561 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 3: you are, and I would just really echo what Buck's saying. 562 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 3: You should be subscribed to anything that Julie's doing if 563 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 3: you actually care about the truth. 564 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: Do you remember when she dropped last August one hundred 565 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: and ten percent one hundred and ten percent that Trump 566 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: was going to get federally indicted. 567 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: We were like, WHOA, well, here we are. Thanks joining you. 568 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 6: Guys, thank you for always covering my work. I'm so grateful, 569 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 6: so thank you, and have a great weekend. 570 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely too. 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Or go to preborn dot 592 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: com slash buck that's preborn dot com slash buc k 593 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: sponsored by Preboard. 594 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 7: Peek out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with 595 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 7: Clay and Buck podcast. 596 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 2: A new episode every Sunday. 597 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 7: Find it on the iHeart app or wherever you get 598 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 7: your podcasts. 599 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. Let's take 600 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 3: a couple of your calls as we continue to react 601 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 3: to the blockbuster news about a special. 602 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 2: Council being appointed. 603 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 3: Uh in this case and uh, let's see here on 604 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 3: the calls, we got a couple of different stories. And 605 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 3: I've been paying a lot of attention to this Buck 606 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 3: and I continue to believe Julie Kelly's amazing. And we're 607 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: going to talk with Andy McCarthy, who is I think 608 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 3: the best legal analyst of all these things on it too, 609 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: and then we'll talk to Senator Ted Cruz of Texas 610 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 3: at two point thirty on the massive breaking news associated 611 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:18,560 Speaker 3: But there are a bunch of you that want to 612 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 3: weigh in. Anthony in Wisconsin. 613 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: Good question here, Good afternoon, guys. 614 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 4: Maybe you answer this question, but you can clarify. So 615 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 4: does Hunter need to be convicted of something in order 616 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 4: to get a pardon? 617 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. 618 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: I'll just tell you he doesn't have to be convicted 619 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 1: of anything to be parted. And then this came up 620 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: with the Mark rich pardon of the Clinton administration. He 621 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: was a fugitive from justice, he never even faced the 622 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: justice system, and Clinton, because Rich's wife was a big 623 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: Democrat donor, gave a pardon that was so unseemly clay 624 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: that even one Eric holder from that Clinton dojy who 625 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: was involved in the pardon process, later said, yeah, that 626 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: was gross. Not only that, I mean, just use Richard 627 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: Nixon as an example. Nixon, to my knowledge, one of 628 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 1: you can correct me if I'm wrong, had not been 629 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: charged with any crimes at the time of his resignation, 630 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: and Gerald Ford basically gave him a clean bill of Now, 631 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: remember only applies to federal charges. So to your point 632 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,360 Speaker 1: we mentioned this earlier, they're likely state charges coming against 633 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: from Georgia against Trump and also New York charges. I'm 634 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: just bringing that up. 635 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 3: Even if Trump won in twenty four and wanted to 636 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,839 Speaker 3: pardon himself, he cannot pardon himself from state charges, only 637 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 3: federal charges. But yes, Biden could clear his son's name 638 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 3: as it pertains to any potential federal charges. 639 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: I want to do Howard and Houston. Howard, what have 640 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: you got for us? 641 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 4: I have my own theory on things. I think the 642 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 4: Democratic puppeteers know that Biden and Harris could never possibly 643 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 4: win on another ticket. So here's my thoughts. The Hunter 644 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 4: thing is going to get into a long protracted court case. 645 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 4: The bide Joe, Biden only has eighteen more months in office. 646 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 4: After about twelve months, he's gonna step down because there's 647 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 4: gonna be an awful lot of heat that puts Harris 648 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 4: in the driver's seats. Harris before she gets out, because 649 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 4: let's face that she's not gonna be running again, is 650 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 4: going to pie pardon Joe and is going to pardon Hunter. 651 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,800 Speaker 4: And at the meantime, Democrats. 652 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 2: I appreciate the call. 653 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 3: There's way too many crazy things being said here that 654 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 3: I think are in no way is going to happen, 655 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 3: I don't. I don't begrudge people wanting to call their shot. 656 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 3: Joe Biden's not going to step down. I don't believe 657 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 3: from the presidency if he did step down. The idea 658 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 3: that Kamala Harris would not run for presidency if she 659 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 3: were to ascend to I mean, the chances of that 660 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: are zero. 661 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: So if everyone has to understand there are there are procedures, 662 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: there are ballot you have to do things to get 663 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: on the ballots in individual states. So they like, if 664 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: the theory is, oh, you know, next summer Biden and 665 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: Harris are going to quit and Michelle Obama's going to 666 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: be the nomin It's just not gonna happen. It's just 667 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. It can't happen logistically, So it's not 668 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: going to happen unless. 669 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 2: They mark in. 670 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 3: And look, everybody can have a lot of theories, and 671 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 3: I enjoy them. But as soon as you say something 672 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 3: that I think there's a zero percent chance of happening, 673 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: and it's followed by another thing that there's a zero 674 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 3: percent chance of happening, I'm gonna have to cut off 675 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,840 Speaker 3: your theory because like double zeros ain't happening Mark in 676 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 3: Palm Bay, Florida. 677 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 8: What you got, don't worry, You're not gonna cut me off. 678 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 8: Long term rush listener and a proud volunteer for conventional states. 679 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 8: But what I'm telling your coll screener is they didn't 680 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 8: call them quit pro Joe for nothing. This guy's been 681 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 8: in Washington for thirty years. The Biden family, Biden crime family, 682 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 8: is not just the limitations of that. 683 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: Everybody in Washington. 684 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 8: He's got his tentacles everywhere. Yeah, everything in their power 685 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 8: to stave this thing. 686 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:03,480 Speaker 4: It is. 687 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: I think this is the ultimate test. I agree with 688 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: the sentiment of the caller here. This is the ultimate 689 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: test of slimy Biden doing what he does. 690 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 3: Can he get out? Can he get away with the clay? 691 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about it with Andy McCarthy next. He 692 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 3: didn't want Biden did in disappointment. What happens next 693 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 5: We will discuss Slay Travis and Buck Sexton on the 694 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,760 Speaker 5: front lines of truth.