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Speaker 1: Please keep in mind that all of my guests aren't honest.

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Speaker 1: So let's begin this week's episode. So I like to

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Speaker 1: say thank you to my guests for sharing her son's

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Speaker 1: story Jamari and Robinson, year old black man that was

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Speaker 1: shot seventy six times on August stil and the police rate.

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Speaker 1: So to my guests, how are you doing I'm doing well,

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Speaker 1: and you I'm good. I'm good. Today's actually my grandmother's birthday,

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Speaker 1: so happy, oh, happy birthday, grandmother. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for having me and allowing me to you lodge your platform.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate that. Absolutely, absolutely, um, defently. Me and

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Speaker 1: you were talking earlier. You went to the march on Washington,

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Speaker 1: and from some of my friends, I heard that that

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Speaker 1: was very emotional. So how was that experience for you?

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Speaker 1: I would say, because I was, it was emotional. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And really the whole time seemed like I was busy,

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Speaker 1: you know, I was, you know, up there with the

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Speaker 1: rest of the families because we were all you know,

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Speaker 1: up on you know, the where the monument is where

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Speaker 1: and all of us families were basically up top. So

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Speaker 1: I was having basically most of us was mixing, minga mingling,

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Speaker 1: you know, talking with each other, you know, giving each other,

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Speaker 1: you know, our contact information. Uh. And and every just

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Speaker 1: about everyone I can think of was there. I saw

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Speaker 1: I saw Sabrina Fullton, I saw Wanda Cooper, who was

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Speaker 1: a mom, Aubrey's mom, Martin mom. Oh, yes, Trayvon Martin

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Speaker 1: you're Subrina Fullton um um mother? Who else? I saw

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Speaker 1: George for cousins, I saw Briale, I met Brianna Taylor's mother, UM,

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Speaker 1: so on and so forth. So I mean, and I

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Speaker 1: saw some old um, not old, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: call them old, but other mothers. That's, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: acquainted acquainted with to us well. Ms Danielle Brown. Her

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Speaker 1: son is Jayleen Brown if you know her story, but

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Speaker 1: she would be another great person to talk to too.

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Speaker 1: In reference to um, we know what happened to her son.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, but you know, we were just loving on

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Speaker 1: each other, um, you know things and that nature, you know,

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Speaker 1: just basically loving, you know, chit chatting and loving on

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Speaker 1: each other, you know, because it's like we're all apart,

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Speaker 1: you know, of this unwanted I always say fraternity or

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Speaker 1: sorority that we did not ask to be a part of.

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Speaker 1: How is it to be a part of that? How

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Speaker 1: is it to be? I mean, I wouldn't wish this anyone.

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Speaker 1: Do I want to be here? No? I do not.

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Speaker 1: You follow what I'm saying. Did I ever think I

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Speaker 1: would be year? No? I did not, because I always thought,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know to me. You know, I

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Speaker 1: felt like, oh, I'm a middle class you know person.

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Speaker 1: I was not you know, conscious, I was woke. You know.

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Speaker 1: And uh philandol Castile and you know, we just had

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Speaker 1: Jamaria was your firstborn, correct pow? Was he as a child,

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Speaker 1: you know what? You know, I always tell people, you know,

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Speaker 1: But I just remember him sometimes coming home after the

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you do that, you know what

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Speaker 1: you know, for the achiness or the joint some pains

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Speaker 1: But he was, you know, he was a great kid.

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Speaker 1: my mother, My mother left like him and my younger

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Speaker 1: was attended Clark Atlantleing University. But he did sit out UM,

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Speaker 1: And I want to tell you one other incident to

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Speaker 1: You know how when you transfer credits. They didn't they didn't, right,

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Speaker 1: They went, you know to Tuskegee. But at the end,

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Speaker 1: But I remember Clark Atlant the University. The first game

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Speaker 1: was just excited. I was ecstatic and I remember, you know,

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Speaker 1: So I did miss but like my dad, my mom,

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Speaker 1: like you know, the move, get situated, go pick him up,

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Speaker 1: now now I think I think back on him growing up.

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Speaker 1: You know, it takes commitment, dedication, you know, discipline. That's

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I know you will, baby into

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Speaker 1: he was like, when I'm making you don't have to

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Speaker 1: actually I didn't realize it until December of really fifteen.

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Speaker 1: my son, the shooting last at three minutes and two

424
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: is a tween t really tween to twenty four seconds.

425
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 1: The shooting lasted just that long. So imagine three minutes

426
00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 1: and twenty two seconds just passing by, and you're just

427
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,719
Speaker 1: constantly shooting at someone that's not a threat. Uh. My

428
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 1: son had a total he received a total seventy six

429
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: bullet holes to his body. I'm gonna say that again.

430
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: He received a total seventy six bullet holes to his body.

431
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: My son was shot six times in the palm of

432
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 1: his right hand, five times in the palm of his

433
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 1: left hand, all down his arms, his torso, his thighs,

434
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 1: his growing, his chins, his feet, mm hmm. And after that,

435
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: and I know that that's that's a lot. And I'm

436
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: gonna keep going. After that, my mother, my brothers, they

437
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: all arrived on the scene, and my mother was going, wow, Wow,

438
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 1: why would you all through something like this? Why why?

439
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,399
Speaker 1: They said, oh, we're looking. We were looking for him

440
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: from a week ago. He pointed a gun as a

441
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: police officer and took off running and then the g

442
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: B I A. He showed my mother a photo of

443
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,919
Speaker 1: the person. It was not my My mother said, that's

444
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 1: out my grandson, and my two brothers went, you know,

445
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,720
Speaker 1: that's not my nephew. My older brother than went, you know,

446
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: my nephew looked like me. He flipped out his phone

447
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: and showed them a photo of what my son looked like,

448
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: which was like a current photo of Jamar and he

449
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: was sitting outside, you know, with his kufion you know.

450
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: And uh, and the photo wasn't no more than about

451
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 1: a month old. I I do know that or a

452
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: couple of days old. Um. The GBR lady asked my

453
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: brother could he air dropped her that photo? And he did.

454
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: They took that same exact photo, dropped me down the

455
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: news that night and said east Port man had got

456
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: the police today. So that's the false narrative that they dropped.

457
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: And so it's like I've been out here for four

458
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: years trying to fight that false narrative. But actually after

459
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,399
Speaker 1: they you know, killed my son, I buried him that

460
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: following on week that Monday, I was sitting in my

461
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: attorney's office and so we hired my family now hired

462
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: an investigator, uh forensic, a forensic expert as well as

463
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: a ballistic person. So that's why I know the details.

464
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 1: That's why I know like the condition of my son's body,

465
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,880
Speaker 1: how the bullets that my my investigator was the one

466
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: who found the bullets which indicated where it showed where

467
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: somebody stood over and shot down to my son's body.

468
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 1: Because remember I told you they handcuffed my son and

469
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: drawing him down the flight Stay number one, Ay, why

470
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: did they move his body? You know, why did they

471
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,439
Speaker 1: They wasn't they were not supposed to move his body.

472
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: But and so when my investigator you know, went on

473
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: the scene, you know, went on the scene to try

474
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: to determine what happened. You know, he said, at first

475
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: he went an apartment or you can see is the bullets.

476
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: They started in tens, They went to the twenties, they

477
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: went to thirties, you know, just going all up the wall.

478
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 1: They went to the fourties fifty And he said, well,

479
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: he said, he couldn't make sense of, you know, what

480
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: happened because you just got bullet holes everywhere just going

481
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: into the house, you know, up the wall. Say that again, Oh,

482
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: no one was there. She had just left. She had

483
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: just left. She left the house at one fifteen. They

484
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 1: bust the door open at one thirty, and then they

485
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 1: came back at four thirty with the search. Warn't wow,

486
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: And they didn't have on body cams. When they held

487
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: body cameras, they just turned them off, which is what

488
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: they typically do. So, you know, are we super That's

489
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: why I knew they you know, I knew they were

490
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: gonna come with their false narratives. That's why I knew

491
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: I had to, you know, I had to come with

492
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: my a game because I and I was like, and

493
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: I was like, and I know I'm smarter than them.

494
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: You follow what I'm saying. And so uh and I'm

495
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: gonna read to you like some of their statements like

496
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: after they killed my son. Because as as we as

497
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: I as my investigation got further into detail, um, you know,

498
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: my attorney brought in like a law enforcement expert. He

499
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 1: brought in a Chiger practor expert, orthopedia expert, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

500
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 1: UM as well as another forensic expert. But from you know,

501
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: from all of the g B I the investigation of

502
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 1: the you know, of the crypt whether it's of the

503
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 1: District Attorney's office, you know how they He took all

504
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: of that evidence, all of the facts, all of their statements,

505
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: and he read through everything, you know, he went through

506
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: every everything with the fine you know, fine, yeah, exactly,

507
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: And so I'm gonna read to you like the what

508
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: the law enforcement expert reports stated. So he tells you

509
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: who the shooters are. He says, shooters involved in Jamarian's

510
00:27:56,320 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: murder was Dave of Timothy Dole. Remember those names. I

511
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 1: mean only give you three Daniel Daniel Doll, Eric Hines,

512
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: and Christopher Hutchins, because I'm gonna come back and tell

513
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: you some more stuff about them after I read this

514
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: from Okay, okay, But if he said based on you know,

515
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: the reports, he said, none of the employee agencies conducted

516
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 1: independent investigation of their officers as required by internal policy.

517
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 1: And then he said Hines was the one who said

518
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: he has a gun. No one else saw a gun,

519
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: even Joshua Manui who's still right beside Himes. And then

520
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: it goes on and say he said, they said, okay.

521
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: Then the officer said, based on because they wrote their

522
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: report on August the eight, So they killed my son

523
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: August fifth, two thousand and sixteen. So he said, they say,

524
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: they shot you know, Jamari in the chest. Then he

525
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: stepped behind the wall, he reappeared, they shot him some more,

526
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: then he reappeared again. Then Robinson fired to the three

527
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: rounds at the officers. No evidence of this was later found,

528
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: so that was their statement right then. He then he

529
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: said flash bangs was excessive and constituted a constitutional validation

530
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: to someone who was not offering an identifiable imminent threat

531
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: of harm to officers. Jamarian was down and not moving

532
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: when flash bangs were deployed and officers. Original incident report,

533
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: written on August eight, two thousand sixteen, all officers stated

534
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: that no one never went upstairs. Bullets were recovered that

535
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: indicated that someone went upstairs and shot down into Jamarian's body.

536
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: Bullets retrieved were from Hinds and Doll's guns. I'm gonna

537
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: stop right there. Yeah, that's I just don't understand. Yeah, um,

538
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 1: I know you filed a lawsuit against the officers involving

539
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: the students. So where is that at now? Well, actually,

540
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's because you got two sides. You got

541
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: the criminal side and you have the civil side. So

542
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: the civil side is what you're talking about. The lawsuit

543
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: that was fouled against the officers. Actually, we just completed

544
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: our depositions because the judge who has my case, he's like,

545
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: why has this case been on my desk for four years?

546
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: But really you cannot. You're not supposed to move forward

547
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: with the civil case prior to the criminal case. Really,

548
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: the criminals supposed to happen first, and then you move

549
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: forward with the civil case. But you know, but we

550
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: know the district attorney here in you know, Fulton County, Atlanta,

551
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: joy Or Paul Howard, he's been, you know, just really

552
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: giving me a bunch of excuses the last four years.

553
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: But I did meet him in February of this year

554
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: and he stayed where he gave me their plan. But

555
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: he's given me their plan before several times anyway. But

556
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: when I met with him in February twenty earlier this year,

557
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: he stated, there, Okay, we're gonna move forward with the

558
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: grand jury, you know, getting these officers indicted, and the

559
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: court day is gonna be I think it was supposed

560
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: to be Marsh. But when Marsh came, of course nothing

561
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,320
Speaker 1: happened because the virus, you know, it was in effect,

562
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: the Corona virus. Yes, I read that the family lost

563
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: faith in the district attorney. Yes, you know, because this

564
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: is how you know, this is how I feel, you know, like,

565
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: because we had other incidents, uh that happened here in Atlanta.

566
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: Uh that pertained to remember the the college students uh

567
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: incident that happened frogram on May twenty nine. Uh. Well,

568
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: you know, one of the officers with his name is

569
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Willie T. Saul's you know that was involved in taz

570
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: of the students. Yeah, he was also involved in my

571
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: son's murder. He was the one who actually handcuffed my

572
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: son and drugged him down the flights bro actually too.

573
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: You know, he killed somebody in ninety five, somebody in

574
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve. Mm hmmible, and he was involved

575
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: in my son's murder. And uh yeah, so that's like

576
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: four incidents. He killed some one in ninety five, he

577
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: killed some one two thousand and twelve. He was the

578
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: one who handcuffed my son and drawed him down the

579
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: flight of the stairs. He was involved in the tazing

580
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: of the students. And then another one. Remember I told

581
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: y'all remember those names, Daniel Door. He had a history

582
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: of corruptions such as on robbery, false arrest, illegal searches, burglary,

583
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 1: and intimidation of individual. Christopher Hutchinson H Hutchins, It's Christopher Hutchins.

584
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: He had a history of d A seeking grand jury

585
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: indictment for felony murder. Mm hmm. That's crazy. Do you

586
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: feel like your son's story is getting the attention that

587
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: he deserves? Where I see, I feel like it is now.

588
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: But that's only because I've been very aggressive. You follow

589
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I say, girl, I've been in these

590
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: streets and I because I was like, is gonna be

591
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: my year? I Am not going another year with this

592
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: weight on my shoulder. You follow what I'm saying. I

593
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: was like, what who wants to you know? And that

594
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: this attorney, you know, because because you know I was,

595
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,479
Speaker 1: I was angry, you know, and I really got as

596
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: I saw mar Aubrey's death and then I saw you know,

597
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: George Floord Ray Schard Brooks. All that did was infuriate

598
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: me more and more. But even before, yeah, Jacob Blake

599
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: and I think all the mothers and the families, all

600
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: of us he felt the same way. It just infuriate

601
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,720
Speaker 1: you more because it's like you're seeing your son being

602
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,320
Speaker 1: killed or your loved one being killed all over again.

603
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: So right before Amar Aubrey was killed, I had just

604
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: dropped my son body photos on Facebook. I just dropped

605
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: his graphic photos on Facebook. And when I did that,

606
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: I got over five thousand shares and I just kept

607
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,479
Speaker 1: going like the next day that about two days later,

608
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 1: I dropped it on TikTok. I got over eighties something

609
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: thousand views, and people was responding to me, and I

610
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: just kept going aggressively since that poor and and that

611
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: put me in the mix. When Mr Aubrey was killed,

612
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: you know, when George Ford was killed. It put me.

613
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: So when all of the protests in March and all

614
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: of that stuff started happening, I just started going out

615
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: and I was getting you know, like because everybody was

616
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: out in the street, and I was just going, hey,

617
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: can I get that mike and they'll give me the

618
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: mike and I'll run it down what happened to my son.

619
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: And so I've just been doing that aggressively, you know

620
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: since really I started at the beginning of Maid or

621
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,280
Speaker 1: right round or the middle of May, right before actually

622
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: I started a couple of days right before mar Aubrey

623
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: got killed when I dropped the photos, you know, the

624
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: graphic photos of my son's body. M hm. Did you

625
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 1: feel like in the beginning you was fighting us alone? Well?

626
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: You know yes, because I you know, like you know,

627
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: I had you know, community support, my family support that stuff.

628
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: But it wasn't enough, you know what I mean, because

629
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: really because I kep saying why my story? You know,

630
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: we had been sending um press releases and all that stuff,

631
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, to see. And then I was like, why

632
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: nobody is not biting this story? And they they say,

633
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: like they're still not biting it here locally because of

634
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: the politics. I know it's policies, because think, I don't

635
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,919
Speaker 1: know if you've been really paying attention like what's going

636
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,320
Speaker 1: on here in Atlanta. But you know, all the celebrities,

637
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,359
Speaker 1: they'll go to other states. They're go on to other

638
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: states to get like, you know, to fight for those families,

639
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: to get justice. And you know, and I've been making

640
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 1: it clear, you know, no, we got our own fight

641
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: right here. That's why I've been saying I'm holding everybody accountable.

642
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 1: And I'm name dropping to you know, you got Porscha,

643
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: you know where he's from. Atlanta Housewives, they running into

644
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: you know, Louisiana. You know, fighting for Brianna. I'm like

645
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: fighting for the children that's here in Atlanta, Georgia. We

646
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: got more than enough faces here in Atlanta, Georgia. You know,

647
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: you got my son, you got Oscar Kane, you got

648
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: Kane Robertson, you got Shylie Tilson, you got Jabriel Robinson.

649
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I can just go on and with the names.

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00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: But nobody, not one celebrity has shared, you know, has

651
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: shared any stories. No, nothing, and they know them like

652
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: they know our stories. I've seen you know one man,

653
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: I'd just say one of you. Or they've been in

654
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: meetings with other people. You know, I've heard that, you know,

655
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: because I have you know, activist friends and stuff that

656
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: be everywhere, you know, And they said, oh, such and

657
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: such was in our meeting today when we met with

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00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: the mayor, and I mean not with the mayor, but

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00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: with the district attorneys because you know, we just had

660
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: our election and they had all you know, the two

661
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: district attorneys that was running for the seat. They were like,

662
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 1: we were in their chat and Jamarian Robertson named the

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00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: whole time and there with celebrities in there too, and

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Speaker 1: she said, t I was in there, his wife was

665
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 1: in there, Porsha was in there, you know, all of them,

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00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: you know. And this was before George you know George

667
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: Floor and all these incidents happened. So they've been, you know,

668
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 1: they've been, you know, out in the community or in

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00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: these gathering spots. You know why the d a s

670
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: and stuff are running for office because you know, you

671
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: know how the district attorneys trying to get people say, oh,

672
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: I want this person to endorse me, back me, etcetera, etcetera.

673
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: And so they've been out in the community and they

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00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: and t I has heard my son's story like a

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00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,719
Speaker 1: couple of times, like he's been as a couple of

676
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: events while you know, since the marchin and protests, and

677
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: he's heard me tell my son's stories every time. But

678
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: has he shared my son's story? Has he said justice

679
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: for Jamar? Has any of them said justice for Jamar?

680
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: And trust me, they know these stories. No, they have not.

681
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm in New York and I

682
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: live on my research because a lot of my listeners

683
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 1: wanted me to touch on a story or just shed

684
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: like a mother's perspective or losing her childhood police brutality.

685
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: And when I was on my research, I came across

686
00:38:58,239 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: your story and I'm like, why is nobody talking to

687
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: Nobody is talking about now? You know what I said

688
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: to because even think about it, I don't know if

689
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: y'all remember when the Tazy incident happened to other students,

690
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you know this, like

691
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: our mayor kept being on CNN. Did you notice that

692
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: the mayor of Atlanta, she was on CNN like several

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00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: times because she's been trying to get you know, she

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00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: was trying to get nominated for the vice president chair.

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: But she kept talking about what was going on in

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00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: other states and the killings that was going on in

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00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,319
Speaker 1: other states. But not one time did she address any

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00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: of the killings that's going on. They have very own state.

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Speaker 1: And so Kesha Lance Bottoms has had over a hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty killings of brown and black men here in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: Georgia since And I was going through the list the

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00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: other day, me and my um, me and my team,

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00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: and we stopped that like a number of like number

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Speaker 1: of hundred and eighty seven, and though and that was

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00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: just between the years often to kind of present, you

706
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But we still not finished. Just

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00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: still like a whole list of names that we gotta

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00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: go through. So Atlanta is ranked number ten, but the

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00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: most fatal police shootings, that's facts. You follow what I'm saying.

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00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,240
Speaker 1: We've had over a hundred and thirty deaths or killings

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Speaker 1: of brown and black men here in Atlanta, Joy and

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Speaker 1: really black men. We've had over a hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: killings of black men here in Atlanta, Georgia. Since that's facts,

714
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: and it's like nobody is talking about it. They want

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00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: when they go on the news, they won't even say

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Speaker 1: my son name. My son cases one of the most

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00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: heinous cases in US history, and nobody is talking about it.

718
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm piste off number one. And so

719
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: I said, you know what, since y'all not saying my

720
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Speaker 1: son name, since y'all don't since y'all are like y'all

721
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: don't see me, and because if you google my son name,

722
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 1: I pop up everywhere. I'm popping everywhere google my son named.

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00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: They have not one time Cassia last Bottoms going the news,

724
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: she had not one time said nothing about my son.

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00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: So you know what I did. I said, So, since

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00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: y'all not gonna talk about my son, and y'all acting

727
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: like y'all don't see my son about the make y'all

728
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 1: talk about my son every corner they turned. Now. I

729
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 1: got told of nine mirrors my tips one is going

730
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: up next week. I got told of ten murals in

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00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: the city of Atlanta, Georgia that just went up by

732
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: my son's anniversary, date August five, that my son faces

733
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: pastor all over the city of Atlanta, Georgia, and they

734
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: still not talking about my son. So you know what

735
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: we've got right now coming up? Now, we got billboards

736
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: that's about the pop up. So y'all gonna have to

737
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 1: acknowledge my son because y'all gonna keep seeing his faith

738
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: and y'all gonna keep seeing my face. And that goes

739
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: for everybody. These celebrities, y'all, they should be ashamed of

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00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: them set themselves and the ones that have been helping me.

741
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: It's only been a hand few. Uh we got missed Juicy,

742
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: you know Mr Too. You got Chris Scott with basketball

743
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: no basketball wise you uh yeah, yeah, you got Josh

744
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: Powell NBA. You got Chris Clemens, you know NBA. You

745
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: know we got peopleho was we got here in Atlanta?

746
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 1: I think I just want to make sure I'm not

747
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: missing anybody that's in my little immediate circle. But I

748
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: think for the most part those are it. I know,

749
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: Hill Harper, he'd started sharing my son's story, But why

750
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,760
Speaker 1: none of think about We got tr we got Lutle,

751
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: we gotta Killer Mike, we got all these Atlanta housewives.

752
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: They know my son's story, I promise you, but not

753
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: one of them, nobody. But once my son's story go national,

754
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,959
Speaker 1: they probably all come running. Don't come running then, because

755
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 1: I've been out here five four years. I've been out

756
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: here four years, and to me, they could have helped me.

757
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: They could have helped me, they could have used their platform.

758
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: But you know why they hadn't helped me because about politics,

759
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: Their friends with the mayor. You follow what I'm saying,

760
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: so they don't want to make her look bad. So

761
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: you know what we've been doing, the mothers, the family.

762
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: We're making them look bad because it is bad that

763
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: y'all not addressing these killings, y'all getting on the news

764
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: talking about Oh. Chief Erica Shills was so appalled by

765
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: what happened to George Floyd. Know what's appalling is when

766
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: Jamari and Robinson Kate came across her death and she

767
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: closed an incident report and found her officers innocent. That's appalling.

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00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I'm not playing with them. I got my

769
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: foot on all day next and I'm not letting nobody

770
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: breathe because that's why I'm at right now. I didn't

771
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: stop doing things their way. I was listening. I was

772
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: being patient. I was trying to go through the process.

773
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: But I said, you know what, y'all acting like y'all

774
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 1: don't see me out here how And I got people

775
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: reached down to me, like you said, from New York, London,

776
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: like Africa. People reached out to me like that's to

777
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: herd about my son's story. And I'm right here in

778
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: the United States of America and and and Atlanta is

779
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: supposed to be what the black mecca. Nobody has acknowledged

780
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: my son's case. Nobody no. But when I say literally,

781
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: no one, you know, you know, we constantly, you know,

782
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 1: in twenty when my son was killed, I you know,

783
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: I was constantly trying to get John Lewis to help

784
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: me over and over and over and over. And so

785
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, why is he not helping me? You know

786
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: what I mean? Why why? Why you know, just your district,

787
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: Why are you not helping me? I was my family,

788
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 1: and I was reaching out to him. Then four to

789
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 1: account d A started reaching out to him. He would

790
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: never return where actually went four to a count d

791
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: A started talking to He did start telling him in

792
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: to eighteen that he was gonna help, he was gonna assist,

793
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: but he never really followed through on nothing like he

794
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: because when my son was killed in twenty sixteen, I

795
00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: think about a month later, uh D White, who was

796
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: jamarian girlfriend in time who house he was killed, and

797
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: she said, I saw him in my store where I

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00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: worked at and I told him what happened to Jamaria.

799
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: And so he was like, tell you know, his family

800
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: called my office dollar. We called his offer about a

801
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: hundred times. They gave us the same runaround over and

802
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over. We

803
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: sent them letters over and over and over. Then the

804
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: d A start reaching out to him and he was like, yeah,

805
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something, But I look at it like this.

806
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: You know, he was the gatekeeper. You follow what I'm saying,

807
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: You're like and then it really to be honest. They

808
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: don't want people to know this story. Why would you

809
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 1: think about it? Jamarrow was shot seventy you know, he

810
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: had seventy six bullet holes to his body. You all

811
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: wanted saying they do fast bank grenades that landing on him,

812
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: burning him. They walked up the stairs shot. Why would

813
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: then I wanted to get out to the masses, but

814
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: it's gonna get there. Whether they wanted to or not.

815
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: Because Jamaria Robinson's mother will not be silence facts facts.

816
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: How can we better assist you with it? Well? Do

817
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: you need from the listener? Well, a couple of things. Um,

818
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: you know I have uh you know white House petition.

819
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: Uh they can yeah, I have that one. It's can

820
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: do you out know if you have it? It's petitions,

821
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: It's petitions with the dot white House dot com. You

822
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 1: know sign that for me. I also have another petition

823
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: is to change dot org petition. They can sign that

824
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: one too as well. Also too they can uh contact

825
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: the fulls and counting d A and demand that they

826
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: charge those officers for um, you know jamarians murder. Because

827
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,240
Speaker 1: my thing is, if you're bringing charges on these other officers,

828
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: I know my son cases more than enough evidence for

829
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: them to charge the I don't want to hear because

830
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: it's a virus. If you move swiftly and charge on

831
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: these other cases such as tazing other students, you move

832
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,919
Speaker 1: fast on Rachard Brooks case and and and and I'm

833
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: and I'm glad he moved. He moved swiftly, but moved

834
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 1: swiftly like that on Jamari and Robinson case. He was saying, Oh,

835
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: he couldn't charge the officers for my son killing because

836
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: there was no body camera. My son body is the

837
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: body camera. Follow what I'm saying, So don't don't give

838
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: me that. I don't even want to hear that. Do

839
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: what you have to do. Put the jurors and twelve officers.

840
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: Put them on June meetings. But y'all need to make

841
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: it happen. You know, they could call his office at

842
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: four zero four six one two four nine eight one

843
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: and demand that they charged these officers. Another thing they

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Speaker 1: can do to support because this is my full time job. Now,

845
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: you know, I've been out here in the streets. I've

846
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: been a voice for Jamar and Robinson. They can donate

847
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: to my goal fund me. No amount is too small,

848
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: and that's justice and that's justice for Jamary. And so

849
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 1: that's go fund me dot com for a slash Justice

850
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: for Jamarry m. Yeah, let's make sure we support Mona

851
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: please please, uh, no amount is too small. They can

852
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: follow me on all social media outlets at Justice for

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00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: Jamarran and I do have a website too for if

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00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: they want to. You know, I'm going in that they

855
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: want more than I really no, I really like when

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00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: I first heard about your son's story, Like I'm trying

857
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 1: not to cry now because I can't even imagine, Like

858
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: I feel your anger, and I'm angry to like I'm

859
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 1: so sick of seeing and black men and women being killed,

860
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: to be shot seventy six times. You come with your

861
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: own and y'all come with false narratives, and y'all expect

862
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: for us to believe them. We don't wave them, and

863
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: I make that clear, we do not believe them. Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: Before we leave, before we start the conversation, you spoke

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Speaker 1: about your organization that you're working on as level right right,

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Speaker 1: We started the organization and like June of this year

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Speaker 1: called Justice for Georgia and what we do with assist

868
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Speaker 1: families as dealing with civil you know injustices you know,

869
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: and and my team, you know, we helped the families

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00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: with we do a lot of the They helped them,

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00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, their system with you know, creating websites, you

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00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: know p s A s because we're currently doing the

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00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: p s A now. They helped them with protests. Uh,

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00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: they assist with public relations and social media coverage, so

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00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: you know, we they helped get signatures for petition so basically,

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00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,919
Speaker 1: it's a household. It's a it's where we house all

877
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 1: the families, you know, and we get we love on them.

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00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: We uh, you know, as I stated, you know, we

879
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: are you know how they say, you know, we are

880
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: all in this unwarted fraternity and sorority. You know that

881
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: we did not ask to be a part of. But

882
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: being that we're here, we're gonna stand as one. We

883
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:56,280
Speaker 1: stand in solidarity and we fight as one. So so

884
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: so that's where we are. You know, we bring all

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00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: the family means together and we fight together. And so,

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00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,479
Speaker 1: you know, because it's like it's not I it's weak,

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00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: you know, and so so we're we're that's what we're doing.

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00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: You know, we're trying to make things happen, and we're

889
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: you know, we don't want to hear the excuses anymore.

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Speaker 1: And uh and we and we're stronger in numbers, you know,

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00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: as family standing together. Well, I want to say I'm

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00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: calling you mom, because I just oh, that's fine. I

893
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: want to support you, y'all. Make sure to click on

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00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 1: the links in the show notes. Um, I would be

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, Stoons. I'm definitely, yeah, because we would love

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Speaker 1: to have Yeah, would definitely love to have you here

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00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: and you know, bring you in. Meet my team UH

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00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: and I have my Justice for Georgia's team. They go

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Speaker 1: out to UH the park every single day with all

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Speaker 1: of our families posters, they give out flyers. They go

901
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: right every single day, Monday through Sunday really for a

902
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: couple of hours a day and they be out there

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00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,759
Speaker 1: shouting justice for Georgia, you know, and justice for all

904
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Speaker 1: the victims here. So they're at a protest. Now. There

905
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: was another protest here in Atlanta that they were taking

906
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: all our kids posters too. So they when I say

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00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 1: they beat, they beat, they're on it. They're on it.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm. Well, if you have any questions, comments or concerns,

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00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: if you want to reach out to her, please make

910
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: sure to email me and hello at the PFD podcast

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00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: dot com and I will see you her way and

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00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: make sure you'all support please, So this is important to us.

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Speaker 1: This could have been your friend, just cove been your daughter,

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00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: just gonna have been your cousin, It's gonna have been anybody.

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Speaker 1: We've got a short support tomorrow and make sure y'all

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Speaker 1: donated her go funding page. And until next time. Thank you, Mark,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much, and I look forward to probably

918
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Speaker 1: maybe in a few more months. Let's let's do this again,

919
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: because I'm sure I have an update for you or

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00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: or even when. Yeah, because I do have more stuff,

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Speaker 1: but I have to hold it for right now. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I hopefully can do it in person when I come

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta to come to see you. Support you. All right, then,

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Speaker 1: I thank you so much for allowing me to utilize

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Speaker 1: your platform. I love you, and let me know, let

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Speaker 1: me know when you're in the A. I will, alright,

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Speaker 1: glove until next time, every one Later,