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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that takes you

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Speaker 1: wherever the Texans happened to be this week. That would

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Speaker 1: be the NFL Scouting Combine in Indian As we said yesterday,

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Speaker 1: not the entire team, of course, but general manager Nick Kassario,

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Speaker 1: head coach Lovey Smith, the staff is here evaluating the

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Speaker 1: crop of NFL players ready to be plucked in twenty

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Speaker 1: where we are coming to you from right now for

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Speaker 1: this program, A fun one for you tonight. Jeff joni Ac,

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Speaker 1: voice of the Chicago Bears, he was with Lovey Smith

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Speaker 1: for nine years. What does he have to say about

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Speaker 1: your head coach now? And of course the Texans played

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Speaker 1: the Bears this year, so that's interesting. And Matt Taylor,

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Speaker 1: voice of the Colts, will talk to him about this

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Speaker 1: event Indie, the AFC South. It's all happening. But let's

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Speaker 1: start with the general John McLean, because it's Thursday and

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Speaker 1: that's what we do now. John is it here, but

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Speaker 1: he's with us via zooms. So General, your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: what is going on here in indian It's great to

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Speaker 1: catch up with you. It's strange not being up there.

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Speaker 1: Last year there was no Combine because of COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: and I had been there every year since nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: NFL had no interest in helping us at all, and

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Speaker 1: it wasn't until Paul Tagley, but the commissioner took the

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Speaker 1: relations people, Reggie Roberts. That encouraged a lot of media

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Speaker 1: Combine is Hughmongas. I wish I were there, but Brooks

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Speaker 1: tremendous job. There's been a lot of talk this week

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Speaker 1: I that's this mark all the time. Gut reaction. What's

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Speaker 1: the general's gut reaction to it moving from Indianapolis the future,

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Speaker 1: potentially it's gone because the NFL can make money on it.

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Speaker 1: Every team in the league wants it in Indianapolis, every coach,

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Speaker 1: general manager, team doctor because, as you guys know, you

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Speaker 1: can walk everywhere. They have everything they need right downtown Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: a great city with a lot of experience of hosting

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Speaker 1: big events. Now, if they go to Frisco where the

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Speaker 1: a Hurricane Harvey. They've got an omni hotel, they got

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Speaker 1: if they go to Sofi Stadium, which they will because

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Speaker 1: but it's inevitable. John, The standard question is what is

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Speaker 1: far as the Texans go, obviously they feel comfortable enough

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Speaker 1: a lot of people around the country seem surprised about that.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing to me the people that are clueless that

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Speaker 1: preposterous based on Mills being better down the stretch than

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Speaker 1: So there's so much better off right now than they

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Speaker 1: play him at guard. He is the best run blocking prospect.

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Speaker 1: So they would have to have him rated really high

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Speaker 1: This is his second contract, the chance he's got to

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Speaker 1: but you got to pay him. John. The cults are

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Speaker 1: being unvaccinated. That's not going to matter this season because

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Speaker 1: do at number one? John, I think you know they've

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Speaker 1: go with eight Nudgings. Now, if you're a Texans fan

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Speaker 1: So they should ope that they take Ikey Kwanu or

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Speaker 1: it up. John. We're only about ten days out of

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Speaker 1: said so many times he'll be back. Some people in

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Speaker 1: He will be back. He's under contract. He said he

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Speaker 1: Would they trade him? He still wanted the top quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: worst that he can dominate again, General, what do you

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Speaker 1: Bruce Cabine is up there every day. He's writing Texans

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Speaker 1: related stories that have been tremendous. They're in the Chronicle

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Speaker 1: And that's what both Farvn Rodgers did. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if he leaves, many people say divisions up for grabs,

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Speaker 1: and it may be, but all those teams you just

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Speaker 1: mentioned have holes of some sort. And the Bears have,

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Speaker 1: you know, the brightest young quarterback in the division and

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Speaker 1: a lot a lot of hope and a lot of

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Speaker 1: but you know, it's got it's got to materialize, and

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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen overnight. So we're we're excited,

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Speaker 1: but I gotta wait and see. There's Jeff Jodiak, voice

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Speaker 1: of the Chicago Bears, joining us on Radio Row here

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Speaker 1: at the NFL Scouting comb with the bench press going

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Speaker 1: on in the background. Now coming up Matt Taylor, voice

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Speaker 1: of the Indianapolis Colts. Let's talk about Indie, about the Colts,

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Speaker 1: about the Combine, about the AFC South. We got a

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Speaker 1: lot to get to. Let's do it next here on

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio. Coming to you from the NFL Scouting Combine,

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Speaker 1: as we have another day of shows here for you

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Speaker 1: Texans All Access Friday night at six o'clock Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: the state of Texas. So you want to see that

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Speaker 1: because we're doing that show from here as well, and

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Speaker 1: we've got videos going up by the minute. Here. We

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Speaker 1: have the Lovey Smith free throw yesterday on the stead

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Speaker 1: of the Pat McAfee show. That was awesome, that went viral,

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Speaker 1: and we have a lot of other stuff as well.

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Speaker 1: Sit down with Nick Kasserio, sit down with Lovey Smith.

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Speaker 1: We've been in the bulls shooting the Texans GM and

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Speaker 1: coach watching the workout, so you're gonna see that soon enough.

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Speaker 1: Working on a whole lot of stuff. So check out

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Speaker 1: all the Texans social media platforms and of course the

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Speaker 1: Texans App for more information. And let's catch up now

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Speaker 1: with the voice of the Indianapolis Colts, Matt Taylor. He's

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Speaker 1: a good one and he's in his hometown. He doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to travel to get to this event. I'm twelve

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Speaker 1: minutes away right up Bluff. If you're familiar with Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: just take bluff. It's a good unused thoroughfare if you

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Speaker 1: will into the city, right into Lucas Oil Stadium, Convention

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Speaker 1: Center area. You know they're talking about there's whispers, there's

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Speaker 1: rumors that the combine could leave town. I really hope

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Speaker 1: it doesn't more than whispers. Yeah, that's true. That that's

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Speaker 1: the one way to put it. But yeah, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I have home field advantage here. Okay, so you

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Speaker 1: can play Indianapolis Convention Visitors Bureau along with just pro

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Speaker 1: Indianapolis person right, sell me on keeping it here versus

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Speaker 1: LA or Dallas or whatever. Because in Indianapolis, the combine

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Speaker 1: takes over the town. It is the event. It the

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Speaker 1: NFL is the biggest game in town. If it goes

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Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, much like the Super Bowl, you don't

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Speaker 1: even know it's there. You know, you could. You know,

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Speaker 1: people on the streets here they run into John Harris

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Speaker 1: or Mark Vandermere and they say, hey, look, it's the

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Speaker 1: voice of the texts right all the time. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how much clout you have in Los Angeles, but

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Speaker 1: that may not happen out there. I just think just

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Speaker 1: it's it's so centered, everything so compact, and really the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing is you have all the hospitals in downtown Indianapolis,

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Speaker 1: and Lucas Oil Stadium was built in two thousand and

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Speaker 1: eight to house this event specifically with all the fiber

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Speaker 1: optics and all the different things that I can't really speak,

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Speaker 1: you know, masterfully about because I don't understand them. But

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Speaker 1: the infrastructure at Lucas Oil Stadium was built for this

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Speaker 1: event to send you know, MRIs and X rays to

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Speaker 1: all the different hospitals, to all the different teams so

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Speaker 1: they can get that instantaneously. There's no way, there's no

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Speaker 1: lag time. If you will, I just think this city,

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Speaker 1: the way it's built, the way it's structured, the people here,

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Speaker 1: all the hotels, the restaurants, the bars, and obviously the hospitals.

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Speaker 1: You know, the combine was made for Indianapolis. It would

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Speaker 1: just be really, really bad for the city to lose

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Speaker 1: it because quite honestly, it's been here since nineteen eighty seven.

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Speaker 1: They depend on the economic stimulus of the combine infuses

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Speaker 1: into the town. That's not going to sell the league though, Matt, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: and see if you agree with me on this, And

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Speaker 1: I think Johnny will, but you hit on something, Matt

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Speaker 1: Matt Taylor, Voice of the Colts. With us, it's a

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Speaker 1: working event. To me, this is about getting the work

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Speaker 1: done for the league. Being with these prospects. The convenience

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Speaker 1: of down to Indianapolis inefficiency, Yeah, I mean LA and

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Speaker 1: Dallas don't offer that. I would think if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: move it, you have to move it to another city.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of like this, where everything's connected and weather

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Speaker 1: is not a fact. And I don't care though I've

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Speaker 1: already got coaches that are not coming here. And it's

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00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: as easy as it gets. You get to the airport,

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Speaker 1: you get a ride to your hotel, and then you

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Speaker 1: walk everywhere. You don't even as we were talking about earlier.

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Speaker 1: You're in your coat, you can park everything in your room,

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Speaker 1: skywalks everywhere, and it's just it's an event city. This

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Speaker 1: is where you want to be because you don't have

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Speaker 1: to worry about parking. I mean, that's just such the hassle.

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Speaker 1: You think about the hassle of just even going to

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Speaker 1: an event anywhere, and it's like, if I don't have

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Speaker 1: to worry about parking, and I don't have to worry

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Speaker 1: about the weather, right, I'm good like that point you

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Speaker 1: do that in any other city. I mean, LA the weather, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I get that, But you're gonna not tell the coaches.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Well look you're gonna go to the convention Center.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty five minutes that way. If the traffic's not bad,

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Speaker 1: I really need to be there. Do I need to

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Speaker 1: go there? Right? Exactly? And I mean we've already got

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Speaker 1: a few coaches that are not coming here, which I

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Speaker 1: think that's their call, but I think it's a mistake.

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Speaker 1: But there there are. It's already happening. It's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: even more so, uh in other cities. And I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be difficult if you if you were to

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Speaker 1: pull the general managers, the football guys, the personnel people,

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Speaker 1: if you were to pull them. I don't know. Maybe

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Speaker 1: this is a bold statement, but I would say a

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Speaker 1: hundred percent of this would say, don't move this thing.

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Speaker 1: It's not broke, don't fix it. But obviously those are

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Speaker 1: the people that are not deciding. It's the marketing people.

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Speaker 1: It's they're gonna do with the combine what they're doing

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Speaker 1: with the draft. They're gonna move it around. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: make it a spectacle. It's a tent pole event on

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Speaker 1: the NFL schedule. I get it, but no longer is

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Speaker 1: No longer is the combine just for the personnel people.

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Speaker 1: It's for the fans, it's for the media, So therefore

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Speaker 1: they will try to maximize it. I think the big

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Speaker 1: distinction is the draft is just about moving the podium

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Speaker 1: somewhere and having the athletes there, because the people who

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Speaker 1: are there representing the teams at the draft site, they

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Speaker 1: don't show up. No, Well, they're guys who are just helping, right,

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Speaker 1: guys and gals just helping. The gms and the coaches

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Speaker 1: are back in the warm rooms in their stadiums getting

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Speaker 1: the work done. That's where the real draft occurs, at

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Speaker 1: the stadiums, not at the podium. But the podium is cool.

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Speaker 1: It's a presentation. You have to have certain things set

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Speaker 1: up a certain way in order to get it done

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Speaker 1: in an efficient manner, no doubt. Man, I'm gonna ask

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Speaker 1: you maybe the most difficult question yet it's one of them.

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Speaker 1: Make you smile. Why is Jonathan Taylor so good? Oh jeez,

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Speaker 1: you just lobbed that one. Oh my god, that's all.

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Speaker 1: But that's a hard question. To answer though, sometimes like

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Speaker 1: why is he so good? It's a fun one to

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Speaker 1: answer you. Yeah, I mean, you know, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: the show we're but there's another question coming that's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be a nice Well I'll sitting here talk about

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor for an hour and a half. He's gonna filibuster.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, this is not hyperbole because I haven't

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Speaker 1: been doing this as long as you guys, but I've

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Speaker 1: been doing it long enough, right, I've been covering the NFL,

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Speaker 1: been covering the Colts for about a decade. I don't

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Speaker 1: mean this as hyperbole. Jonathan Taylor is the most impressive

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Speaker 1: player I've ever covered. Wow. Yeah he is now and

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Speaker 1: I mean that like on so many levels. Obviously what

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Speaker 1: he does in the field speaks for itself, but if

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Speaker 1: you just talk to him, the guy's twenty two years

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Speaker 1: old and he blows me away. He is intellectual. He

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Speaker 1: is thoughtful, intelligent. I mean, his answers are so they're

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Speaker 1: just again, they're just incredibly thoughtful what he says. And

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Speaker 1: sometimes I'll stop down doing the interview and I'll think

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Speaker 1: back to what he said and like, holy crap, did

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Speaker 1: he just say that? Like what twenty two year old

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Speaker 1: talks like that and thinks like that and is able

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Speaker 1: to express himself the way that he does. And then

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Speaker 1: obviously all in the field, he's the perfect blend of

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Speaker 1: speed power vision. He can catch the ball out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield me we're talking earlier, John. He's able to

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Speaker 1: make yards when none are there to be made. He

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Speaker 1: can turn a four yard sweep into a sixty yard game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he had the longest rush this season. He

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Speaker 1: had the third longest catch. I mean, he broke a

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Speaker 1: franchise record for rushing yards in a single season. Rushing

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in a single season. He tied the record with

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Speaker 1: Lenny Moore, you know, the old Baltimore Colt days of

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Speaker 1: total touchdowns in a single season. The guy is He's

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Speaker 1: the best player the Colts have had on offense when

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Speaker 1: you just factor in the total package since I've been

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Speaker 1: doing this and again, what he does off the field

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Speaker 1: and the person that he is and the character that

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Speaker 1: he has, I think makes him the total package in

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Speaker 1: terms of just representing the franchise in a first class manner.

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Speaker 1: So let's get to the second question. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know it's answered I don't

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Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do. Why did it not work

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Speaker 1: with Carson this year? Well, now, I take it. I

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Speaker 1: mean he was twenty seven to seven, twenty seven touchdown,

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Speaker 1: seven interceptions, but a lot was expected of him, especially

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Speaker 1: with Jonathan having the season that he did, with the

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Speaker 1: defense that was there, right, why did it not work? Well?

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Speaker 1: It started off very rocky, right, I mean, the second

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Speaker 1: day of training camp, he goes out with a abnormal

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Speaker 1: foot injury, and to make even matters even more weird,

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Speaker 1: Quentin Nelson the next day has the same injury, which

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Speaker 1: is very unique. It was so bizarre. But at any rate,

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Speaker 1: he misses all of training camp, he misses all of

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Speaker 1: the off season excuse me, all of the preseason games.

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Speaker 1: And the Colts were one of those teams last year

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Speaker 1: in April and May that didn't have the traditional offseason

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Speaker 1: workout program. You know, the backdrop of COVID was still

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Speaker 1: going on, so you know, they didn't have that six

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Speaker 1: week program like they're used to. They did the two

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Speaker 1: week kind of condensed you know, we'll do you know,

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Speaker 1: an hour on the field and then most of it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be mental. So I think that was a big

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Speaker 1: loss for the Colts quite frankly, and they talked very

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Speaker 1: candidly at the end of the season about that, Hey,

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Speaker 1: this year, as in the upcoming offseason workout program, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a ota period. We're gonna have mini camp.

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Speaker 1: Because when you have a first year quarterback, maybe not

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Speaker 1: a first year quarterback, but a quarterback in a new system,

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Speaker 1: in a new scheme. I thought it was a missed

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Speaker 1: opportunity for the Colts not to have the full traditional

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Speaker 1: workout program. But you know, the players used the again

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Speaker 1: the backdrop of COVID as leverage, and that was that.

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Speaker 1: But at any rate, because he missed so much time

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Speaker 1: in the spring and so much time in the month

635
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: of August, it's almost like the first month of the season.

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Speaker 1: In September and early October for Carson Wentzon, the offense

637
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Speaker 1: was like training camp two point zero because you just

638
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Speaker 1: missed a ton of time on task. He didn't have

639
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: synergy and cohesion with the wide receivers. He was learning

640
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: a new playbook to a certain degree with Frank Reich

641
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 1: and some of the nuances there that had changed since

642
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: their times together in Philadelphia, So that was part of

643
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: it started off very rocky, but then After that part,

644
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: the Colts really found their rhythm and they obviously relied

645
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: more on Jonathan Taylor. You know, from week four or

646
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: five on Taylor's usage as carries, all those numbers were

647
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: way up, and the Colts went on a roll, right

648
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: They started, you know, one in three, then they one

649
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: eight to ten, and everybody's talking the Colts are going

650
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: to be a team nobody wants to see in the playoffs.

651
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: They're peeking at the right time. And but the last

652
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: eight games, it's almost as if the Colts over corrected

653
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: and got two reliant on Jonathan Taylor. They weren't throwing

654
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: the ball outside the numbers. The completion of percentage was down,

655
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: the yards per attempt numbers were down, and they just

656
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: didn't have enough firepower on offense in the passing game

657
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,720
Speaker 1: between the quarterback and the wide receivers. I told John earlier,

658
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman junior went over one thousand yards this season. Great,

659
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: fantastic season. Guy. In year number two, he's taken the

660
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: next step. That's what you want to see. But no

661
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: other Colts pass catcher, if you will, when you factor

662
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: in wide receiver, running back or tied in, nobody else

663
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 1: in that group went over four hundred yards receiving. The

664
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: Colts were the only team in the league do not

665
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: have two receivers over four hundred yards. So again for

666
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: the second time in three years. If you go back

667
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: to two nineteen with Jacobe Brissette and then in twenty

668
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: twenty one with Carson Wentz, the running game was really good, elite,

669
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: but the passing game just never complimented. And you know,

670
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 1: football one on one should be if the better you

671
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: run the ball, the easier it should be to pass

672
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: it with play action, and it just never happened. You know,

673
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: the Colts didn't throw the ball outside the numbers, and

674
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 1: the last eight games of the season, Carson Wentz went

675
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: over two hundred yards passing just twice, and things really

676
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: kind of peaked there. On Christmas Night in Arizona, huge

677
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: win for the Colts. They were ravaged with COVID, a

678
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: ton of guys down, the depth was tested. They got

679
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: a big time win against the Cardinals on Christmas Night.

680
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz made a huge throw in the fourth quarter.

681
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: And then that was week whatever was sixteen, and then

682
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: the week seventeen and eighteen they played the Raiders at

683
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: home and the Jaguars on the road to close out

684
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: the season. At that point, analytically, the Colts had a

685
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent chance of making the playoffs, and they

686
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: dropped both of those games, and they got ran out

687
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: of the gym, if you will, in Week eighteen in

688
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: Jacksonville against the team that was planning for absolutely nothing.

689
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: And I don't think there's any way around it. I

690
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: don't think you can sugarcoat that being the worst regular

691
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: season loss in Colts franchise history, considering who it was

692
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: against and what was on the line. Had they won

693
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: the game, Gosh, that's amazing. And then watching it play

694
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: out at Hard Knocks and look, we're watching, you know,

695
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: we watch Hard Knocks and you know we've been in

696
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: a Hard Knocks in twenty fifteen. I don't know what

697
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: it was like there, but just watching like you can

698
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: hear about it. You obviously, Matt were there, you could

699
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: sense it all that kind of stuff. But we had

700
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: a chance to see it through the lens of NFL

701
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: films and HBO through Hard Knocks, and it was it

702
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 1: was gut It was a gut punch. I mean, the

703
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: Colts were he didn't watch on a win, don't get

704
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: me wrong. I mean, we hate y'all and y'all hate us,

705
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: but just watching it was like, oh my god, this

706
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: is awful. How did this happen? Yeah, I mean the

707
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: Colts were again not to get too you know, historical

708
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: on you, but for those that track these kinds of things,

709
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: the Colts were a fifteen and a half point favor

710
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: and week eighteen against Jacksonville on the road, that was

711
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: the highest point spread for the Colts to be favored

712
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: by in a road game since they moved to Indianapolis. Now,

713
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: I don't know who. I don't know who figures that

714
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: out and digs those things up. I gotta look at

715
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: what the line was on Christmas Eve two thousand and six,

716
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: when the Texans beat the Colts for the first time,

717
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: everyone goes Brown's field. But because I know the Texans

718
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: were heavy underdogs in that game, because I was wondering,

719
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: might not have been the worst loss in the history

720
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: of the Colts. But no, because that was on the

721
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: line in that game. But the fact that you know,

722
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: they got off to a bad start and just never

723
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: showed up. And again it's just like Jacksonville. Uh, you know,

724
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: they lost the toss, so they received and they went

725
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: right down the field, they scored a touchdown, and they

726
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: just kind of set the tone for the day. Whereas

727
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: if I think if the Colts get the ball first,

728
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: they go down the field and they scored touchdown, that

729
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: kind of sets the tone the other way, like, you know,

730
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: we're gonna make the playoffs and we're gonna get into

731
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of a groove and momentum heading into

732
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: the season, and just it was an uphill climb the

733
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: entire afternoon. All right, So what would you do if

734
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: you're the Titans right now? They had the top seed

735
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: in the AFC and they play the Bengals in the

736
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,799
Speaker 1: playoffs and we all saw what happened. Tannehill turns the

737
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 1: ball over. It's just not a good day for them

738
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: after locking up the number one seed. What do you

739
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,919
Speaker 1: think of their situation? You know, maybe this is too oversimplistic,

740
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: but nothing the formula works. The formula works. In my opinion,

741
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: I think Ryan Tannehill had a bad afternoon and Derrick

742
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Henry getting hurt. They kind of weathered the storm, and

743
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: I was really impressed with their ability to do that

744
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: throughout the course of the season. So I think they

745
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: know who they are, and they play to that, and

746
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: they drafted that, and they have a culture and they

747
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: have an identity, and it obviously works. They were the

748
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: top seed in the conference, and I just think they

749
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: didn't play well or good enough that day. And you know,

750
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: maybe you can argue that they need some more help

751
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: on defense, but you know, the devil's advocate of that is,

752
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the hell, they had nine sacks in the game.

753
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: It's still lost. So I don't know what more else

754
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: you want, you know, from you know, a roster construction

755
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: standpoint or a team building viewpoint. So I have a

756
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: lot more respect and admiration for Ryan Tannehill than most

757
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: people do, I think, because I think the guy's just

758
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: a winner. He's a guy that people galvanize around, and

759
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: he's just a good guy. And I think he's an

760
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: underrated quarterback. So in my opinion, you know, if it's

761
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: not broke, don't fix it. I just think you need

762
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: to play better and have more of a sense of

763
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: urgency once the playoffs start. To be honest with you,

764
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: There's Matt Taylor, a voice of the Indianapolis Colts. Always

765
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: a pleasure to catch up with him, and that's because

766
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: I don't catch up with him after Colts games. It's

767
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: always before. It's the hype build up into those contests.

768
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: This is the nemesis of the Texans. Houston is nine

769
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: and thirty one all time against Indie. Stop me, all right,

770
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 1: I'm not going to talk about that right now in

771
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: a good mood or at the combine. Speaking of good moods,

772
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: let's revisit at the end of the show. Here the

773
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: radio moment that is sweeping the nation. All right, that's

774
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: a bit of an oversell, maybe a lot of an oversell.

775
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: But Lovey Smith yesterday, man, he had a day. Pat

776
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: McAfee studio hits the free throw. The Madden people. I

777
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: want to get into this more, and I'm going to

778
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: investigate tomorrow. But the Madden people actually scanned his beard

779
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: for the game because they have Lovey Smith's scans, but

780
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 1: they wanted to get the beard right, so that happened.

781
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: And also when he visited with us, we talked about

782
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: music and not that that was a revelation that he

783
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: likes good music, but he likes watching TikTok. Lovey Smith,

784
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: that's sixty three years old, did not strike us as

785
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: a TikTok guy yet, he is. Which you can get

786
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: is you can get old concert clips. There's nothing like

787
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: It's one thing. Listen to the old music that's seeing

788
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 1: them perform it. It's pretty specially some of the footage

789
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 1: you've never seen before you get That's what where did

790
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 1: you get that? That's exactly what I'm going through a

791
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: lot of much spare time this one. What's the documentary

792
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: Summer of Souls? You've seen it. I've seen the Summer

793
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,760
Speaker 1: of Soul. I've seen it. It's sly in the family

794
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: Stone that that performance that they did, that's the Summer

795
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: of Soul. As you can see. Now you give me

796
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: in music. Now we can talk rist right, And they

797
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: were at Woodstock too. They're in the movie the Woodstock too.

798
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: I also have the whole documentary with three hours of Woodstock.

799
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: Can't tell you how many times I've seen Woodstock. That

800
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: that documentary also, and Richie Havens excellent. Absolutely. That was

801
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: from last night's Share a Visit with LOVEE. Smith And

802
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: I think I know what our offseason topic is going

803
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: to be, maybe even our during season topic from time

804
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: to time. Music. I mean, I can talk about that

805
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,479
Speaker 1: era all day long. All right, great to visit with Lovey.

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00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: That was just a little snapshot from our visit yesterday.

807
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: We had Matt Taylor on the show Voice of the Colts,

808
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 1: Jeff Joni act Voice of the Bears. We had John

809
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: McClain to start the program. We a lot today and

810
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: we'll do a lot more tomorrow. Mike Keith voice that

811
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: the Titans will be with us. Some other guests as

812
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: well that we have lined up, but I'm not going

813
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: to let you know just yet until everything is one confirmed.

814
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: And Johnny's been watching workouts in the Bowl, you're gonna

815
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: want to hear what he says about what he saw

816
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: here in Indeed, that's the show. Thank you Chris for producing.

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00:42:20,719 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: Have a great night everyone, and go Texans.