1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Buzznight. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm the host of the Taking a Walk podcast, And 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: let's look at this week. December ninth, the week of 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: in music history. Let's go to the music history desk 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: and hello, Harry Jacobs, what's going on? 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Happy holidays to you, Buzz. What do you got for 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: the week of December the ninth, Harry. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 3: Nineteen sixty six, Cream released their debut, which was Fresh 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: Cream in the UK. And you know this was a band. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: You know they always say this about zz Top and Cream. 11 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: Just a lot of noise for three guys, right, I mean, 12 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 3: they really had just an incredible sound. I Feel Free 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: was the big one from my opinion, right. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: I think there were multiple tracks there, but my favorite 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: was I Feel Free. Oh I love that one. 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: That's one I could imagine seeing in some kind of 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: Netflix movie sometime soon, just because it's a good groove. 18 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: It definitely is, and I believe we've seen it, you know, 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: in like a Scorsese movie. You know, where's some big 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: action happens and it's just this kind of bang and 21 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: then you know you hear the harmonies at the beginning 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 3: of that. So it's one of those where I wish 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 3: we could actually play it without getting in trouble from 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: them because it's a dramatic, dramatic kind of song. The 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: other thing that happened this week, Jim Morrison was arrested 26 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 3: in New Haven in nineteen sixty seven, charged with a 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: bunch of different things. 28 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: It was just kind of a. 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 3: Crazy deal and it was reflected in the movie. 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: That was done. 31 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 3: Who was in that, Meg Ryan was in that movie 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: and who played Jim Morrison and. 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: The boy Boy that's a good one and it was 34 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: good whoever it was. 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 3: I'm going to kind of look at this as we're talking, 36 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 3: but in New Haven, riot, in decency and public obscenity 37 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 3: were the three charges against against Jim Morrison. The movie 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 3: starred that, Oh you know it was it was you're 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: gonna go, oh wow, Kilmer. That's right, Bell Kilmer, Bell Kilmer, 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 3: and he did an amazing job. The other in same 41 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: thing that happened, and I saw this tour when it 42 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: when it came out was Billy Joels. 43 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: We Didn't Start the Fire. 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 3: Came out in nineteen eighty nine. I was working in 45 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: Worcester at that time, and you remember how crazy that was. 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 3: It was just the litany of historical events that were 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: were recited. 48 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty brilliant actually, you know, put putting that 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 2: together into a song. 50 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 3: I'm going to go back and listen to that, right, 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 3: It's just such a great you know, it just literally 52 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: is is kind of a run through time. 53 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: Yep. I thought it was. I thought it was brilliant. 54 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 3: And I saw he and his wife at the time, 55 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 3: Christy Brinkley at the famous El Morocco in Worcester. 56 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: Wooster. Yeah, in Worcester. 57 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: That was a that was a place otis redding. This 58 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: was the week of the plane crash in nineteen sixty seven. 59 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: He was only twenty six years old Madison, Wisconsin. A 60 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: huge loss, you know for soul and you know, R 61 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: and B music at that time. 62 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 2: For sure, and all things told about him indicate he 63 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 2: was an unbelievable live performer as well. 64 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 3: You know, I wish, you know, I was a year 65 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 3: old when that happened, but I really wish. He's one 66 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 3: of the guys I'd love to have seen wrote some 67 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: legendary music, definitely. 68 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: Ye. 69 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 3: In sixty eight, the Stones released Rock and Roll Circus, 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: and that was an event that featured Who and Jethro 71 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: Tull and a bunch of a bunch of others and 72 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: it wasn't released. Actually it wasn't really the footage wasn't 73 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: released until ninety six. The album came out in nineteen 74 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: sixty eight, So there was actual footage that we saw 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: finally when you and I were working together w Zlex 76 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: and Boston in ninety six. 77 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember that and the quality the way it 78 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: was restored was pretty fantastic and it was literally a 79 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 2: who's who that showed. 80 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: Up at that. Yeah. You know what's funny about the Stones. 81 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 3: I don't know that we've ever really talked about this 82 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: is that when you look at and listen to Stones 83 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 3: footage from Get Your Yayas and from anything live that 84 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: was done pre nineties, the sound was always awful. They 85 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 3: never played well together. To me, it was always just 86 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 3: as a musician, it was always noise. It seemed to me, 87 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 3: it was always just guys playing over other guys. 88 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: It wasn't great. 89 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 3: And then you get into some of these concert films, 90 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: like around nineteen. 91 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Around the time of Tattoo You. There was a live. 92 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 3: Album that came out around that time, maybe just before that, 93 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 3: where the sound was just really got good. And now 94 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: if you listen to this, if you go see the 95 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: Stones now, it's amazing. It's like almost as good as 96 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: the record when you hear them play, like you ever 97 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: noticed that? 98 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 2: Well, they figured out how to really fill in some 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: of the gaps maybe that exist in the band with 100 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: these incredible players. I think that first started when Chuck 101 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: levelle became part of that, you know, and and so 102 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,480 Speaker 2: I think they they figured out how to understand where 103 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: their sound is today and where they all are I 104 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 2: think as individual players. So in turn they were able 105 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: to fill out a really great sounding organization, you know, 106 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 2: basically a great sounding band. I guess also too, don't 107 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: you think that technology for live performances has changed so 108 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: much for the better that that helps a band like 109 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,679 Speaker 2: The Stones and other bands as well. 110 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: I think there's no question. First of all, both points 111 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 3: are points that are well taken. You know, you get 112 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: guys like Chuck Leban, guys that'll come out on the 113 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 3: road you know with you to play. 114 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: That changes, you know how the band plays. 115 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 3: But technology for sure right to be able to reap 116 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 3: you know, when you when you hear and play Sympathy 117 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: for the Devil, and you know you hear you know 118 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 3: it's not just them playing live there's a track that's 119 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 3: assisting certainly at the beginning of that, and there's other 120 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 3: stuff certainly that that I think goes hand in hand 121 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 3: with that, and they just you know, part of what 122 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: you said is true, but the other part is I 123 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: want to I want to say this in the most 124 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 3: respectful way possible. I think part of it was a 125 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: little laziness on the Stones part, you know, because you 126 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 3: look at like, think about. 127 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: This in nineteen seventy. 128 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: You know, five or whenever that Springsteen did the the 129 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: Hammersmith Show. The quality because Springsteen was such a quality 130 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 3: not or the Eagles, you know, live stuff in the seventies, 131 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 3: they were always there. 132 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: Was just this this. 133 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 3: Thing that that some people wanted to have live and 134 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 3: they paid attention to the detail. I just think the 135 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 3: Stones didn't pay attention to a lot of that detail 136 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 3: or you know, early on, and then at some point 137 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 3: something clicked and now there's nothing better right when you 138 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 3: when you hear them speaking of Chuck lovel there's a 139 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: great documentary on Amazon about about him. 140 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: You know as well, So you may want to if 141 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: you oh, I love that, I love that, always loved 142 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 4: his playing, loved that band c level you know, oh yeah, right, 143 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 4: that's right. 144 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: A couple of things happened. I want to take your 145 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: temperature on this. 146 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,559 Speaker 3: I was never a new wave or a punk guy 147 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: like I never get into the clash for the sex pistols. 148 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: That's music that kind of broke while you were programming 149 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: rock radio. How did you feel, because that was a 150 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: change in music, right, we were used to you know 151 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: at that point, sticks, Kansas, Foreigner stones, right, and and 152 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: that was music that entered the fray that kind of 153 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: changed things for rock radio. 154 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean to the point that my old radio 155 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: station I ninety five there in Danbury, Fairfield County, Connecticut, 156 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: during the beginning of all that. You know, there was 157 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: k Rock in Los Angeles, the rock of the eighties 158 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: that was playing, you know, alternative music, basically alternative new 159 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 2: wave music, and my station took the gamble and went 160 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: all in and kind of became one of those stations 161 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: I think went a bit too far in that regard. 162 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 2: So we all got swept up in it because it 163 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: really was a wave of new wave if you think 164 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: about it, me personally, it was there was some I 165 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 2: liked the clash, I liked for sure, and appreciated the 166 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: sex pistols. The other example that you used for me, 167 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 2: it was so extreme. 168 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. 169 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: I think I appreciated differently now with the sense of 170 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: anarchy that comes from bands like The Offspring. We had 171 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 2: Noodles on from the Offspring and he sort of talked 172 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 2: about the sex pistols and that sense of anarchy and 173 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 2: you know who could really deny. Also the sound of 174 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 2: Green Day, you know, that was after that, but was 175 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 2: also based around that sound of anarchy. So it was 176 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: an interesting time. Some of it for me, worked, some 177 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: of it didn't work. The poppier side of that I 178 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: wasn't as much of a fan of it. Was like 179 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 2: ABC was one of those bands. YEA Haircut one hundred 180 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: was another one of those that came out of that. 181 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: They were a bit more you know, extreme for me. 182 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: And now you've got a band like Tears for Fears, 183 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: who we've got an episode releasing, who are actually bigger 184 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 2: now in terms of the venues that they're filling than 185 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 2: they ever have been. 186 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 3: You know, do you think that the sex pistols and 187 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 3: the clash kind of gave way to grunge, you know, 188 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 3: Nirvana and Pearl Jam and all that. 189 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: Do you think that was kind of the offshoot. 190 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 5: I think so sure, yeah, I think to a degree. 191 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 192 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 3: So, and this was probably this is the week, by 193 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: the way, in nineteen eighty one. My point here was 194 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 3: that this is the week that The Clash released Combat Rock, right, 195 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: and that was their fifth album, probably their biggest. 196 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: It had certainly had two of their. 197 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 3: Biggest songs, right, It had rock caspods should I Stay 198 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 3: or Should I Go? Yeah, you know on it. So 199 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 3: that was that was a monster. And then this was 200 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 3: a big week in seventy seven. You probably remember this. 201 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: The Sex Pistols were supposed to be on Saturday Night Live, right, 202 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: I think this would have been the probably the second 203 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: season of Saturday Night Live in seventy seven, and they 204 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 3: were denied entry to the US. 205 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: They weren't allowed to play. 206 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: Do you know who filled in for him little as 207 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 3: as trivia? 208 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: I don't, but when you tell me, I might remember 209 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: Elvis Costello and the Attractions. 210 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Yeah, so that's who the replacement was for 211 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 3: the sex Pistols on Saturday Night Live. 212 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: Wow. I love that. 213 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 2: By the way, you just reminded me of another person 214 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: that kind of snuck into that sound in his own 215 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 2: way and became really big, and not for this week 216 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: in music history, but as we're talking about alternative rock 217 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: or new wave, it was Joe Jackson who really put 218 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: out a lot of great music. I'll never forget seeing 219 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 2: Joe Jackson really exemplify that attitude of anarchy. Saw him 220 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 2: in New York City. He comes out on stage and 221 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: before he even starts playing, he has gum in his 222 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: mouth that he spits out into the audience. 223 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: Oh no, kidding, Yeah, yeah, he was just he was 224 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: kind of an odd, an odd duck. 225 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: But that Look Sharp album, I. 226 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: Just I just went and looked at the thumbnail as 227 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 3: you were, as you were talking about that, I remember 228 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: that the what the black pants and the white shoes 229 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 3: a little bit of lighting kind of a famous album cover. 230 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 3: But that that album, that Look Sharp album had so 231 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 3: many great songs. That's another one. I'm gonna actually add 232 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 3: some Joe Jackson to my to my playlist because I've 233 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: kind of forgotten how great Sunday Papers and Look Sharp 234 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: and and. 235 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: And you know he was. 236 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 3: He was also someone who wrote about being alternative lifestyle too, 237 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: right before it was kind of hip to do right 238 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: because you know, he he's a member of that community, 239 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: and and was you know, vocal kind of later on 240 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 3: in terms of singing about his experience. 241 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: Yep, right, but yeah, he was definitely a part of that, 242 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: and Sunday Papers was always a favorite of mine. In 243 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: addition to Luke. 244 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 5: Sharp, see, I've created a new variation of This Week 245 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 5: in Music History, which is really now called this Digression 246 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 5: in Music History. 247 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you know what it's worthy. 248 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 3: It's worthy of these discussions, you know, for you know, 249 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: maybe not just for me, but for others that are 250 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 3: listening to us talk about this to go, well, I 251 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 3: forgot about you know, look Sharp, or I forgot about 252 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: you know, the sex Pistols or whatever. 253 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: So I think it's funny. 254 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 3: The digression started with me asking you was this music 255 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 3: that you embraced? 256 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: Right? 257 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: Were you a sex Pistols and a class fan? And 258 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 3: that's where we we end up with Joe Jackson. So 259 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: it's okay, we got a focus problem. So yeah, but 260 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 3: that but that's it. That's kind of where we end off. 261 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 3: The sex Pistols being denied in the seventy seven when 262 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 3: they're entering into the US, and Elvis Costello and and 263 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 3: and then the class with with that, you know, fantastic 264 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 3: fifth album, Combat Rock in eighty one. 265 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 2: So all right, well, you know things will be heating 266 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: up as we head through December and into January for 267 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 2: the weeks in music history. But thank you Harry Jacobs 268 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: once again, and thanks for listening to. 269 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 270 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: If you'd like taking a Walk, please share it with 271 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:25,119 Speaker 2: your friends and you could find us at iHeart, Apple Podcasts, 272 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,479 Speaker 2: Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. 273 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: Shared Tomorrow, friends, Tears for. 274 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 2: Fears joins us on taking a walk. 275 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: That's great.