1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Bobby here. Thanks for listening, and thanks for 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: subscribing to the Bobby Cast. If you haven't subscribed yet, 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: please do. It does help us so much. I wanted 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,159 Speaker 1: to share with you guys an episode we did with 5 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Russell Dickerson and his wife Kaylee Dickerson. And the reason 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: comes up now is I just spent a whole weekend 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: on the road with them. Russell was playing with the 8 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: Raging Idiots, and so we spent a bunch of time 9 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: on the road, but also hung out with Kaylee a 10 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: little bit on the road, and it reminded me of 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: this episode that I wanted to put back up. You know, 12 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: they talked about being together for ten years, how Kaylee 13 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: filmed and directed the music video for Yours. Russell talks 14 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: about how it took four years from when that song 15 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: was written to go number one. So here you go 16 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: from It's a couple of years old, but I wanted 17 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: you to hear this in case you haven't. Here is 18 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast with Russell Dickerson and his wife Kaylee. 19 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: All Right, welcome to episode to nineteen. It's Russell and 20 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: Kaylee Dickerson. Have you guys ever do one together? An 21 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: interview together. That track was fire you have an interview together? Yeah, 22 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: only a couple of the like what who interviews you together? 23 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 1: The Not did so a print publication, yes, but it 24 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: was their podcast. Okay, we were their first episode, right 25 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 1: and Bristo and I think that's it? How was that? 26 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: I don't know her, but she lives, she's wonderful, love her, Yeah, 27 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: I hear, I hear good things about her as a person. 28 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: I always have a weird thing with the Bachelor people 29 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: because I've met, like most of them, I meet or 30 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: not people I would normally hang out with in her life. 31 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: I go, oh, that's why you wanted the Bachelor and 32 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: and not and not because she I hear she's great. 33 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 1: And I'm saying this because I have multiple friends that 34 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: are like, oh, she's like a fantastic human, right yeah, 35 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: you actually is, yeah, legitimately lover. Yeah, it's cool than not. 36 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: When you bring that up, it reminds me that I 37 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: saw on the Not, which is a wedding website, right, 38 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: like Not that yours was the biggest wedding song for 39 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 1: them ever or something like that, or the year or 40 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: some like same music they put it, they put it, 41 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: they make like an annual list for their like because 42 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 1: you go to the knot to like who should I 43 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: use as my photographer? Who should I use make my cake? 44 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: Or whatever? And they had yours was one of their 45 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: their like number one playlist wedding first dance, so you 46 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean, like their communative list whatever? Did this? 47 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: Did this song build your new house? Absolutely? Yeah? Are 48 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: you still getting checks for it? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I 49 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: mean he's like yep, yeah, I mean it's yeah, that 50 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: was that yours is It's its own whole story anyway, 51 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: And we'll get to that. We will. Have you played 52 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: this song at many weddings that you weren't personally connected to, like, 53 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: have people hired you? Because I talk to talking to 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: Dan recently? Have Danna Chaney was like, you know, we 55 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: don't do a lot of weddings, but listen, we'll do song. 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: And we're right because they have wedding songs. Yeah, like 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: legit yours is one speechless Yeah. Have you played that 58 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: at any weddings I have? Yeah, I've I've probably done 59 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: like like, hey, like come play our wedding will pay 60 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: you like three yeah, not not a lot? Does that 61 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: go through your agent? Yeah? Yeah? But then that's good. 62 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: Those are good. The privates of anything were so good, fantastic. 63 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: But then there's that one in a million. We happened 64 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: to be playing a show in a certain city and 65 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: there happens to be a wedding, and they're like tweeting 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: like crazy, you know what I mean. So we were 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: in like South Carolina, some I don't know, some town 68 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: and we played it like four thirty. First dance was 69 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: at like six thirty, so it was oh yeah, yeah yeah. 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: So we got we got ubers, I brought my guitar, 71 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: we changed clothes, we tried to find something dressy the 72 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: band sounds like I can't wear jean shorts to a wedding. Yeah, 73 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: And so we just like rolled up. Anyone know you 74 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 1: were coming on? Literally no one, no, because we walked 75 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: in and we were like hey, uh and they the 76 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: wedding planner. I don't know if they knew who we 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: were at all. Yeah, someone in that band, like Incognito, 78 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: was like, where's the wedding planner and like right in 79 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: and so someone a bit advanced it. Yeah, I mean 80 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: we walked in just enough because I'm telling you I've 81 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: done the thing before where I also have gone to 82 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: a wedding where it's like a big fan. It's like 83 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: we just love you, and you don't tell him you're coming, 84 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: and you go and have people like I don't know 85 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: who you are exactly, and it's a real humbling experience. 86 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: That happened once. That happened once in Phoenix. We were 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: staying in a hotel outside of Phoenix, I don't know what, 88 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: and we heard the rehearsal. She was walking down the 89 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,559 Speaker 1: aisle to yours and so we were in the pool 90 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: like at this hotel and heard the rehearsal and we're like, 91 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: you gotta do it, you gotta crash. And you walked 92 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: in the door after the ceremony and they were like, 93 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: they're like and Russell was like, Hi, I'm Russellserson. That 94 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: was myself like things. There are two times where that 95 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: happens to me. That one. It's like that because there's 96 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: only like a small selection of people to give me 97 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: a crap, give a crap who I very small and 98 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: I'm very loyal to them. But most people have no idea, right, 99 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm just a dork with big glasses. So without the glasses, yes, 100 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: So when you show up somewhere and you're like, I'm 101 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: actually doing this because I know somebody here cares I'm 102 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: and then they're like, yeah, we got no idea, bro. 103 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: The other one is when something like sometimes like people 104 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: on my my management team will call and go, Hey, 105 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna have dinner at this place. We're gonna call 106 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: and and they'll be like, hey, we're gonna get a table. 107 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: And I don't do this anymore, but like, can we 108 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: get a table for four bibones is in town? And 109 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: they're like, I don't know who that is. And that 110 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: happens and it's like, you know what, it's just not 111 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: worth it to me. Its not worth it. It It happens 112 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: like one or two times, and you're like, it's just 113 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't do it. I'll just go and wait. I'm 114 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: not special. Um, I tell you that my my recent 115 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: have to k Lee stories and we're gonna get all this. 116 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: By the way, she's just talking. I have so much 117 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: preparation I've done for this interview. We haven't gotten to 118 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: it yet. Um. The first one is this is a 119 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: three or four weeks ago. I was playing the opera 120 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: at the Rhyme and you were playing too at night. Um, 121 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: and so we were on the same thing together. But 122 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: I was walking back and if you ever just kind 123 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: of an insight tip, you're gonna go to the opera 124 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: at the Rheman, you can wait for all the artists 125 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: to show up behind the Rheman because we all have 126 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: to go through a backdoor. And so and I'm there. 127 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do some stand up and I think 128 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: I don't have a guitar with me or anything, and 129 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: so I'm going in and there's a lot of people 130 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: that know that, and they're just waiting and there would 131 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: take pictures and in a bit, there's a there's a 132 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: lot and it starts to be a little bit overwhelming, 133 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's like an angel came 134 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: out of the guy. I was like, I'll take these pictures. 135 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: And it was Kaylie standing there and she grabs everyone's 136 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: phone and it's like, okay, next sext sex sex And 137 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: this ushered me right into the door, and I was like, 138 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: thank you very much. And I left that experiencing like 139 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: did he know that was me? Or does he think 140 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: I was a fan? Like I know, I knew exactly 141 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: who was you know, I'm a fan, But I was like, 142 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: I left that experience, being like he might have thought 143 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: I was one of the people just waiting for him. 144 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: I did not. And then we saw each other again upstairs. 145 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: But and then my second one is and I didn't 146 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: say anything about this on the radio, but I'm gonna saying, well, 147 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: maybe I didn't know. Okay, So I saw at the airport. 148 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't know where, I don't know. No, No, we 149 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: weren't at the airport. We were event that I live 150 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: in airport. So I feel okay, same, but I remember this, Um, 151 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: we we're at charity event. Did she tell you this? 152 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: I love it? And so I say, hey, you know 153 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: what's because I feel like I know Kaylie better than 154 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: you Russell at times, like we've spoken more than than 155 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: you and I have. And we're talking at this event 156 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: and she was like, hey, I was gonna go Russell's 157 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: playing a radio show and I was complaining about radio 158 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: shows in your honor, and I was like, I can't 159 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: you know what they barely get paid. It's like Tuesday night, 160 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, I'm feeling I'm feeling bad for you. And 161 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: she's like, yeah, it's not so bad, and um, she 162 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: goes well, and I was gonna thinking about going. But 163 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: what I do is I reserve the Southwest because if 164 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: you fly, because my idea is my companion, right, my 165 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: go on Southwest, I can take him anytime I fly Southwest, 166 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: I can put Mike on for free. She's yours, she goes, 167 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: you know. So I used the pass and I walked 168 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: all the way to the gate with him and then 169 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: I just don't go. It's all over again. I was like, yeah, 170 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: I was like, you just took the seat if the 171 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: plane was sold out. So I laughed and then I 172 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: got and I thought about telling that story on the show, 173 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: but I didn't. I felt like it was a good 174 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 1: private moment. And then then I heard and then I 175 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: don't know again, did you I've posted it because that 176 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: what it was. Yeah, I thought when I heard my name, 177 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he's about to call me out 178 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: and say that I stole the seed on Southwest and 179 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: something in me. But you didn't mind me that you 180 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: were okay they talking about I'm like, if Southwest is 181 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: going to give me that but not let me. This 182 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: is my beef with with the companion pass, which you 183 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: may feel with me, which we're grateful Southwest that we 184 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: get to fly well, can we fly a lot giving 185 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: it to us for charity. Thing is they don't let 186 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: you board together. You're like Z three yes, and I 187 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: have no status because he's like a plus preferred plus 188 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: plus plus are you and your boarding past? I'm sure 189 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: when you board is like beef ift two are like 190 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: it's at the way. I'm like, we're going to sit 191 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: together if we're companion pass, just let us sit together. 192 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: They won't do it. I don't know why did you 193 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: have to not write an article about this, because this 194 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: would be good you guys. What's interesting to me is 195 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 1: you guys worked together too. You don't because and I 196 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: didn't know that Kelly was a singer because I was 197 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: talking to her. She was like, you know, I did 198 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: vocals and because she just went to school together. Wait, 199 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,239 Speaker 1: let's start from the very beginning. You guys met in school. Yeah, 200 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: and like a singing class. Yeah, we have the same 201 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 1: vocal coach, voice teacher, and like you have these required 202 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: classes where it's legitimately you sit in the classroom, you 203 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: have someone play guitar or piano for you, you you stand 204 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: in front of the class and sing. That's terrifying. That's 205 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: why I don't sing anymore. But I mean for me, 206 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: that's literally that's radio tour, right, you know, so that 207 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: like prepped me for these like super awkward, sterile, fluorescent 208 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: light conference rooms with seven people looking at exactly and 209 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: looking like they could care less to be there. So that's, 210 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: you know, that prepped me. But that that's where we met. 211 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: And we had the same vocal teacher. And I remember 212 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: who who sing first. I remember hearing him sing first 213 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: and he's saying it was in our classical class and 214 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: you're saying, oh yeah, and they made me sing low yeah, 215 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: like I thought you were saying a church on the 216 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: Cumberland Road. I mean like like the old, yeah, the 217 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: old like And I was like, dang, that guy can sing. 218 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: And that's the first time I remember. Because we didn't 219 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: ever meet. Really, Everyone's always like somebo, do you guys 220 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: meet and we're like, we don't know. We were like 221 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: all friends of friends and she was dating somebody, I 222 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: was dating somebody, and it's just like all interwoven, slowly merging. Yeah, 223 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: and then we made out at a graduation party after 224 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: we'd broken up with Let's rewind for a second. You 225 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: hear him sing yeah, and do you hear her sing 226 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: like the same around. Yeah, who at that stage was 227 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: the better singer. It's always been him in classical though 228 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: like slash like musical theater, but that transitions into like 229 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: this little indie vibe that she's got. It's like incredible, 230 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 1: it's so good. But you didn't answer the question what 231 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: he Okay, I was better at classical. He was better 232 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 1: at um commercial, which is like his life, which is 233 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: a good thing that I'm like not going to go 234 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: on radio to classical classical. I'm going to say her 235 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: that's the right answer. Even if we can't you can't 236 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: prove it. And so you guys, you're in this class 237 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: and you have friends that mutual friends you guess, are 238 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: hanging out, and was it like, even though you're dating 239 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: other people, I'll just ask you where you like. Man, 240 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: she's cute. I don't have a girlfriend, but she's cute. Yeah, 241 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: well I was dicky, he didn't really have a girlfriend. Yeah, 242 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: it was like, but I would like ask her for advice, 243 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: like dating advice. But then like we would start hanging 244 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: out more. We'd go to like the flea market. We'd 245 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: always get coffee or whatever while you were dating another girl. No, 246 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: not really it had kind of once asked her they 247 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: were dating. If you asked him, they weren't. It was 248 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: kind of one of those they weren't. They were not serious. 249 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: They mean they were not to convince me, I believe it. No, 250 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm like trying to make sure he doesn't sound like, also, 251 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: you're in college doing dumb, young, darky things. But really, 252 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: what I mean, you start hanging out. I was in 253 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: a serious relationship. So you were hanging out with him 254 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: while you were had a serious boyfriend. Okay, you both 255 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: kind of single then, yeah, but we were you vibing 256 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: at all? It's so long ago, honestly, I'm like, like 257 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: we were like ten years yeah, so let's go back 258 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 1: in time. So back in time. Yeah, back in time. 259 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: It was like friends of friends. Like it was just 260 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: like a group like that's Belmont. It's such a small, 261 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: like tight knit group. Like there was like twenty people 262 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: in our graduating class. So it was and so like 263 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: we all all would hang out and then like we 264 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: would just start going again. Like I remember when the 265 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: first time I was like going to the flea market 266 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: and I would like, ask you about another girl. Yeah, 267 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: he would been like like, bring us closer. You know 268 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,360 Speaker 1: what I mean, I need to ask other girls about 269 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: other girls, but it really just brings them to don't know, no, Yeah, 270 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: he would be like should I do this? I was like, well, 271 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: do you miss her? Do you like her? And he'd 272 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: be like, I don't know if I like. I'm like, 273 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: well did you think about her when you were like 274 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving break? And he'd be like, I mean a little. 275 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't think you like her that much. 276 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how long have you two been together 277 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: or not married, but together? Period ten years minus one month. 278 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 1: We broke up after that, okay minus one month? What 279 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: happened with that month? I was an idiot? He was 280 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: an idiot. I this is this is a this is 281 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: for real. I had just we had graduated already, and 282 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: I had just signed like my pub deal, and like 283 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: it was about to happen for Russell Pakers, you know 284 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: what I mean. It was in like all these promises 285 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: were made from that deal and like you're gonna get 286 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: a record deal, You're gonna be you know, you're gonna 287 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: be on radio, you gonna be on tour, You're gonna 288 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: be gone, You're gonna be going going, And I was 289 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: like I don't really have time for a relationship, like 290 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: I need to just kind of and we don't think 291 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: dating for a year. Oh that's a long time. That's 292 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: not only yeah for me, like yeah, and and so that, 293 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean, that was that was my mindset, was like 294 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: it's about to happen for me. I need to be single. 295 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: But like twenty two year we were two, you know, 296 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: and there's no judgment triangle here. I'm here. I'm just 297 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: asking questions. Yeah, And so that was. That was one 298 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: month and I remember calling her on Thanksgiving Day and 299 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: I was just like wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you 300 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: have to waity back up what he was like, Well, 301 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: he was like we'll be friends, and I was like, no, 302 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: we won't. And you go ahead and do what you do. 303 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to move on. You move on, and you're like, 304 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: but you're my best friend. I was like, well, you're mine, 305 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: and but we're not doing this like both thing. And 306 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: so I moved on. He moved on. And then I 307 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: got a call on Thanksgiving and he was like, I 308 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: just want you to know I'm thankful for you. And 309 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, well, like I needed and when 310 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: I say this, it is the smallest it's not even 311 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: like I needed to live the rock star road life. 312 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: You know. I literally made out with one girl and 313 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: that was I was just like, no, this isn't for me, 314 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: this whole this is a this is not a good 315 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: this is not fulfilling, you know what I mean. Like 316 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: literally I made out with one girl and I was like, yeah, okay, 317 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: this is I gotta call Kaylee. That whole deal from 318 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: back then, that pub deal didn't turn into all the 319 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: things we thought it was going to. Career wise, No, 320 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: you still would same publish company. Also, you're out of 321 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: all of that. Yeah. That was the first I signed 322 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: in two thousand eleven. That was a two year deal, 323 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: got dropped after two years. Um, and then that was 324 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen. And I didn't even write yours until 325 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, and then I didn't sign a deal 326 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: till you haven't made that song and it's after two years. Huh. Yeah, Well, 327 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: what's kind of the genesis of your writing that song? 328 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: And it took a second for it to kind of happen. Yeah, 329 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: so you're right, like, just tell me about the So 330 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: the overall picture is January twenty something is when we 331 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: wrote it, and then January twenty something, literally almost to 332 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: the day. Four years later, four years is when it 333 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,959 Speaker 1: went number one, So four years in between that was. 334 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,239 Speaker 1: I had one offer for a publishing deal. We took it, 335 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: we had to, We had no just got married. I 336 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: got dropped the week we got back from our honeymoon. 337 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: So that was a great We made twelve tho dollars 338 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,360 Speaker 1: that you combined. Yeah, so that was that was year 339 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: one of marriage. And then soeen we wrote it, and 340 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: I mean we just we went all around town. Everybody 341 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 1: said no, all the majors, all the indies, every I 342 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: mean literally, were you were you chasing an artist deal 343 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: with that song? Were you also pitching the song? Well 344 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 1: so you want you wrote it? You're like, it's mine 345 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: on this hill? Yeah, the whole, the whole, this whole time, 346 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm an artist writer, you know, like 347 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: that was that was what I wanted to do. And 348 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: so uh yeah, I was just like I we obviously 349 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 1: it and take no for an answer, but I just 350 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: put everything on this one song. I was like, I know, 351 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: I know that, I know that I know this is 352 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:11,120 Speaker 1: a hit. And and it took i mean another two 353 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: years from writing it too to go to labels and 354 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: showcases and do the whole dance. And it wasn't until uh, 355 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: thirty Tigers slash now Triple Tigers. They've just started a 356 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: whole brand new label. And it was it was Norbert 357 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: Nicks who had just got to let go from Sony 358 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: and like Kevin Herring who just gotta let go from Warner. 359 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: It's all these guys who kind of, you know, related 360 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:43,199 Speaker 1: to this, this like being rejected kind of mentality, like 361 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: a little chip on your shoulder a little bit, and 362 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: uh and it just all came together with this tiny 363 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: little label. I was the only artist on there and 364 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: they had me one song and that was that was 365 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: what really ignited. I mean, I I missed the whole 366 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: video part, but an industry wise, industry wise that that 367 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: was what what really like to took it. You know, 368 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: at what point because the label was a small independent label, 369 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: so it's it's difficult because they don't have the promotion 370 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: infrastructure right for for an independent that they just don't 371 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: have arms and fangs everywhere. So but at what point, though, 372 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: did you realize we actually have a shot with this thing, 373 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: Like this thing could actually be a massive hit. Like 374 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: what was it a number on the chart. Yeah, like, 375 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: were you hearing about research because it was also a 376 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: valid Oh dear god, I don't play. But then it 377 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: started jumping like it was only in the twenties. For 378 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: like three weeks, four weeks something like that. It was 379 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: like jump, two spots, jump, three spots jump, and then 380 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: it was in the teens and we were like, who woa, whoa, whoa, 381 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: what was happening? Did you do this song on any 382 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: any TV? On any anything on our favorite? Did it 383 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: seems like The Bachelor? Okay, I don't know this, but 384 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: it seems like this, this would be that kind of song, 385 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: big pop from that show. Absolutely, it was a couple, 386 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: Rachel and Dean. Rachel, she was she was like bachelor. 387 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: Dean was Geanie babies. Do you know Dean? Bachelor in Paradise? 388 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: He came back, I've never seen. I'm not the guy 389 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: to talking, but but I don't know Rachel. But was Okay, 390 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: So she's an attorney, she's smart, she's really cool. You 391 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: play this on the show, and it was ever on radio? 392 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure? Or no, no, it was on radio 393 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: and it jump because it was so hard. After that, 394 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: it jumped like tin spots on airplay and top top 395 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: of the iTunes charts. You know, just like craziness that 396 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: was that was a big jump when you played that 397 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: song on the show. You did it over and over again. Yeah, 398 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: it was that awkward too. Is are you just playing 399 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: with them? Dan? What was the scene was that awkward? Uh? Well, 400 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: they were late first of all, So it all started 401 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: where we never had a tour bus before, but we 402 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: got to ride down in a tour bus and then 403 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: to South Carolina, South Carolina. Um, and then so we're waiting, 404 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: We're waiting, We're waiting. I think Chris Harrison was felt bad. 405 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: So he comes on our bus and you know, we 406 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: have a we raise a toast, we have to have 407 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: a drink, and we're just like hanging out with Chris 408 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: Harrison on our bus, which for us at the time, 409 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: we were like, I was freaking out. He was there 410 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 1: for like two hours and we shared we had knob 411 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: right now and I had him signed the bottle and 412 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: I have it in my house, like I mean, like 413 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: I'm a fan, and he let us every Monday like 414 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: her and her gal pals get together and watch Bachelor. 415 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: He's also really nice. He's so nice and me let us. 416 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: He let us come to after the final rows. He 417 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: was like, let me take us, do you want? I 418 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: was like, it's twelve too many and he was like, no, 419 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: we'll make it happen. We I mean me and all 420 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: my friends filed in, Like it was so fun. It 421 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: was really cool to like make it a real life 422 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: exp and not so like this is the show. That's 423 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: cool that you got to watch him play on the 424 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: show and you got to hate because you're a fan. 425 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,360 Speaker 1: When you're a fan of something, it's so much cool 426 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: that when it actually works out in a way that 427 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: makes you still feel good. Yeah, and it was fun. 428 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: It was I think the whole thing is a crazy phenomenon. 429 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: And do I think it's the best way to find someone? No? 430 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: Am I highly entertained by drama that has nothing to 431 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: do with my own life. Yes, I love it. I 432 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: love it. They are they dancing is a dancing, it's 433 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: like a slow dance makeout And how many times do 434 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 1: you think you have to play that song with them dancing? Yeah, 435 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 1: it was like two or three, but they have to 436 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,120 Speaker 1: make out every time on cue? No no, no, they 437 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: just think I mean they made out but they wanted 438 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: to it wasn't like make out at this, It wasn't choreograph. 439 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: You know who I became friends with from the Bachelor 440 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: was again the episodes of Good Made Bachelor. It was 441 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: Joe gross Store Joe. Yeah, I don't know I'm personally, 442 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: but he did dance. He's the nicest guy. Heck yeah, 443 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: he seems like it. And Kindle is engaged. I don't know. 444 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're engaged either, but I'm telling 445 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 1: you that is a reel of a relationship. They are 446 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: the greatest for each other. They're both so nice, So yeah, 447 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: they're His story is wild because he went on and 448 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: I would add him and I were both not considered 449 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: to be the best answers, so we were bonding over that. 450 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: And he went on that show and he was only 451 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: on for an episode and he get kicked off almost immediately, 452 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: and the internet blew up. The Internet blew up, Yeah, 453 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: and he was like the internet was pissed. Yes, Then 454 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: he got bring Bring Back Grocery Store. Check there, Like, 455 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: he's good looking and he seems super nice, and so 456 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: he ends up going back to Bachelor in Paradise and 457 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: that's where he ends up meeting Kindle. But he was like, 458 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: you couldn't believe it. He was like, I didn't one show. 459 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,479 Speaker 1: It was embarrassed that my friends are gonna be kicked off. 460 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: We at a party he goes then then my social 461 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: media started to blow up. And but he was as 462 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: much as I give the Batchelor people crap, Like an 463 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: earlier I've went out with a couple of people from 464 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 1: that show. Um went out with a couple of people. Yeah, 465 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: like went out with a people off Mike, and I've 466 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: been around some of the people. You know, it was 467 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: really weird. Who wasn't mean or nice? But who's the 468 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: guy that thinks he's a model? Jordan Kimpbell. I had 469 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 1: lunch with that guy. He's I didn't. I have no 470 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: feeling like I didn't spend enough time with him to 471 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: like him or dislike him. He's a lot though, and 472 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: he's real. Yeah, just what you see on the show 473 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: is like my friends were like, tell me if this 474 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: guy is real, and I'm like, why don't watch the show? 475 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: And I sat with him and I was like, I 476 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: don't know what you say on the show, but that's real. 477 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: Whatever you see, he's exactly like that in person. He's 478 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: like on twelve just it's like, you know, I got 479 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: for modeling. Deal's got to get down, dude, Willhelm and models. 480 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I can tell he was kidding 481 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: or not. If there's a mirror behind you at dinner, 482 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: You're like, I need to put myself looking in the mirror, allies, 483 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: He'll never look at me this whole And I liked 484 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: him just fine. It was just I didn't know what 485 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: his vibe was. My friends were like, tell me, what 486 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: if he's really liked that him Robbie, Oh no, that's 487 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: another But you're just like, yeah, she didn't watch it. Football, yeah, 488 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: steak and stuff. You know. So you go on this 489 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: show and it pops for you. You come back to 490 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: the life and it's like, wow, we gotta so obviously 491 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 1: your team has a story too, like on the Wan, 492 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: on The Bachelor, Look how it's all on this that's 493 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: and at that moment when you literally you have nothing, 494 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: when you have this one little spark that is what 495 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: you just like nurture and nurture and nurture and try 496 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: to try to get that into try to get a 497 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: little flame, try to get a little bigger flame. I 498 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: mean it's it's literally man, we we flew around the 499 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 1: country and then would drive in Honda Civics and just 500 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: like go to station to station and like tell this 501 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: little story of you know we had we had some downloads, 502 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: we had some streams, we you know, we it was 503 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: literally this tiny little flame that you have to curate 504 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: and just like keep it sep it alive. Yeah, like 505 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: you don't, don't say no, Like we're not going to stop. 506 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: One of the problems my wife and I have is 507 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: always what are we gonna cook for dinner? Because we 508 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: cook the same things over and over and over again. 509 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: Spaghetti last week, spaghetti this week, spaghetti next week, spaghetti 510 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: wei the week out of that, and we're like, we 511 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: need something new. We always getting a rut of cooking 512 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: the same things. And then we found it Hello Fresh, 513 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: different items each week delivered right to our front door. 514 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 1: Cooking made simple. We were like, oh, we were so excited. 515 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: So you go to Hello Fresh dot com and let's 516 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: say you're a vegetarian. They have different vegetarian meals that 517 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: choose from, and when you open up that box on 518 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: your front door, all the ingredients are measured out to 519 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: the tea spoon and they have step by step instructions. 520 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: Thirty minutes later around you have the meal sitting on 521 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 1: your table, and right now you can get nine free 522 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: meals with Hello Fresh by going to Hello Fresh dot 523 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: com slash Bobby Cassina nine and using the code Bobby 524 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: cast nine. That's nine free meals with Hello Fresh dot com. 525 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: Go to Hello Fresh dot com slash Bobby cast nine 526 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: and using the code Bobby cast nine. So you're you're 527 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: hustling around. The song is continuing to climb. It hits 528 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: top ten, and now it shifts to well, we're trying 529 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 1: to get the whole freaking thing now, like we've been 530 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: working this hard, this long because it was on the 531 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: chart for a long time. It was the Billboard set 532 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: a record first. Okay, the timeline in itself two thousand 533 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: fourteen when we wrote it, just to even get a 534 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,160 Speaker 1: record deal was one of the longest journeys of my life. 535 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: Then once we finally hit radio, it is the Billboards 536 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: longest solo male debut climb to number one. So it 537 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: was just on the chart for a long time up 538 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: the chart. Yeah, so you go your top ten? Did 539 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 1: they give you the talk like they do some artists, 540 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: Like it's just honored be in the top ten, like like, 541 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: you know, we made it. Who knows, but you got 542 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: a top ten and we got some momentum for the 543 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: next one. And that's not how I work. Due I'm 544 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: like faith, I'm like, yes, we're gonna do it. I 545 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 1: will drive to every radio station again to make sure 546 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: this goes all the way. I don't care. I'll do it. Seven. Yeah, 547 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm what are you three with a hard to wing? Okay, 548 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: so I'm eight with the three two two? Eight with 549 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: you go to two and growth hold on, Oh dude, 550 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: we'll be here all okay. You know who got me 551 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: out on his Dave Heywood into it. Yes, and Kelly 552 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: bought us all the books. It's a Haywood thing. They've 553 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: they love it. They love the iniogram. I had never 554 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: heard of it until Dave came in. It's been ten minutes. 555 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: Ted talk to me about the indiagram. Yeah, I'm an 556 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: eight with two, so you can only go left. I go. 557 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: I picked my own way, as an eight would. Yeah, yeah, 558 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: so I made my own. Mine was like the scent 559 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: whenever they tell you, yeah, so mine whatever that you're 560 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: a crazy scenario. That means you're really healthy because you 561 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: in eight. If you're truly innate, you go to two 562 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: and growth. What's to me? It's the help of um 563 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: that's not me. That's my lowest one. I'm three. I'm whatever, 564 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: the perfectionist. What's three my When you look up three, 565 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: it's not eased the achiever. That's what I am. A three. Okay, 566 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: that's where your highest two. I don't think that I 567 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: showed up as the two. They were like the one 568 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: umber the time. I don't think that's true. Because you 569 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: find people in the world and you're like, I believe 570 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: in you, I'm going to help you. I'm just telling you. 571 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: The score told me I too, didn't even register giving 572 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: yourself enough credit because every question was like who do 573 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: you believe? And I was like me, who else do 574 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: you believe in? Yeah? There you go? Yeah, so you go, 575 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: and I will I will concur with that. I mean, 576 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: because you find all these artists and you're like, I'm 577 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: going to give you a platform. I'm gonna help you 578 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 1: be hurt, you being really healthy. It's a challenger. Yeah. 579 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: Eight goes to two and growth in five. So when 580 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: you're stressed out, you investigate things, right, you google stuff. 581 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm doing that right now with you guys. Actually, 582 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm the eight. Okay, I'm an eight and you're an eight. 583 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a three. So you can only go left 584 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: or right in your wings. So like you can lean 585 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: towards what we do, you can clean, you can lean 586 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: towards seven and an optimist, or you can lean towards mediator. 587 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm guessing you lean towards seven. If I'm neither one 588 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: of those, neither, I just live. I built walls around 589 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: the eight, so I'm a three achiever. But then I 590 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: leaned towards two, which is the helper supportive advisors that 591 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: one says, Oh my gosh, there is that has never 592 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: been a more accurate description. Oh my gosh. Yeah. Well, 593 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm all I know is I saw the scores and 594 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: I was like eight, and yeah, make that makes total sense. 595 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: I can. And that's the thing that's the human a 596 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: little bit of yeah, it's yeah, not me. I'm straight 597 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: up seven? Are you? You're really optimistic? Optimistic, enthusiastic? Wow, 598 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: look at you. Every day is the best day of 599 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: his whole life. Literally, Wow, I don't. I mean that's 600 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: I mean, good for you. I struggle with that. He's yeah, 601 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: I don't. It's I don't understand it is that like 602 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: I can get myself there, which I often do, like 603 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: I can find reasons, but are you? Is it just 604 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: a natural part of you where you just feel it 605 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 1: like that is you? Pretty much like I. I wake 606 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: up and I'm like, today is going to be breaking awesome, literally, 607 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: and he's like, Pape, get up, look up, look outside, 608 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: then let's go. Let's go. Like he's like a kid 609 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: on Christmas, like every day it's insane to me and 610 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: sometimes like Buddy, there's one person in my life. It's 611 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: it's our photographer videographer who out sevens me and he 612 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 1: is actually Buddy the ELpH. It's yeah, it's it's crazy. Wow. Wow, 613 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: that's that's that's a good thing to know about. I 614 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: don't know that. I wake up and I'm the opposite. 615 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't believe it's three o'clock in the 616 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: freaking morning. I couldn't if he's like that on like 617 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: those infamous radio shows where he's up till eleven midnight 618 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 1: and Lobby calls five four something like that, and it's 619 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: just like over and over and over days like that, 620 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 1: he wakes up and he's like but other than that, 621 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: you're pretty much yeah, for the most part optimistic. When 622 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: the songs on top ten though, you felt it though, 623 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: you were like, oh babe, we got this. I will 624 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 1: do I will call every hundred and fifty six stations, yeah, 625 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: to make to see if we can actually take this 626 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: all the way. And so is it a slow week 627 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: week methodical climber? Does it kind of hit the top ten? 628 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: Pretty good? It was pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't. It 629 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: wasn't like sevens all the way up and we got 630 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: two weeks on Billboard and and so yeah, it just 631 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: like it's shot up, and it was just it was 632 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: what do you do when you What were you doing 633 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 1: the night it hit one? So the Sunday that it 634 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: actually flips and after West Coast comes in and it's 635 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: you're done. Um, you're now officially number one. What were 636 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: you guys? What were you doing? We were at the house. 637 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 1: I remember, like everybody, I had like all these interviews. 638 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it was like Billboard they wanted 639 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: to do a whole like number one interview, and like 640 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: because the debut number one is pretty crazy and and 641 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, they were I was on the phone with them. 642 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: I was on the phone with management and and just 643 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: like it was cool that we were actually home to 644 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: wine on our little porch, because like we we didn't 645 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: want to take that for granted. This entire climb, like 646 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: we had a we had a top forty party legitimately 647 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: with the songwriters, Like they came up, they came over, 648 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: and um, we had a top forty party. Every every 649 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: ten ten spots. We would just take a moment and 650 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: be like, you know, if this is as high as 651 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: it goes, raise a toast to this. And it's been awesome. 652 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: So it hits one. And now we're gonna rewind a 653 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: bit though, because the video is a big part of 654 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: this song too. In the video, if I'm remembering right, 655 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:22,439 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go from memory, you were asleep? Wait 656 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 1: as a proposal? Hold on a second, let me get 657 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: this right. Did you propose in the video? Was a 658 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: part of the video? Okay, hold on? Getting my stories 659 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: mixed up? Hold on, are you propose? Were you taking 660 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: a nap? And he wakes you up? When we got 661 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: engaged and oay, I'm getting my stories mixed up. But 662 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: I want to hear both of them. So let's talk 663 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: about the engagement. Here because you're taking a nap, you 664 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: are gonna wake up and do a little song, A 665 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: little yeah, okay, and what was happening there? So she 666 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: I mean, looking back, I could have written a way 667 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: more elaborate song, but now it is what it is. 668 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: It was like three lines um, not even about the 669 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: song though. He was like, you decided on like a Thursday. 670 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: You're like, I'm going to propose botter Ring asked my parents. 671 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,719 Speaker 1: It was Sunday, like at all. We looked at a ring, 672 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: but I still was like, it's gonna be a while. 673 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 1: I was like, if this is going to be a surprise, 674 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: if it's gonna be surprised, I gotta do this now. 675 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: And so yeah, it was like a Sunday after church. 676 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,040 Speaker 1: She was taking a nap and I was obviously so nervous. 677 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 1: I was like trying to come up with this little 678 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: just a little proposal, Diddy, and I was like, she 679 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 1: woke up and I was like, hey, can we do 680 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: this little like YouTube. I just want to kind of 681 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: make a video to put out and you know, just 682 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: through the fans, my four fans at the time, and 683 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: you know, play this little acoustic jam and you know, 684 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 1: just riding that avenue of of trying to convince her 685 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: to get her camera out put this wide angle lens on, 686 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,880 Speaker 1: and she's like, no, well, like why would I do 687 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: a wide angle? Like it needs to be in on 688 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: you on your face this crop Like she knows what 689 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: you're talking. Are you telling me how to do my job? 690 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: I was like so annoyed, and I'm like, would you 691 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: just please this like the vibe I'm seeing as an artist, 692 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: Like I just want to see I just want a 693 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: wide angle lens like you can see the mess on 694 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: the counter that picture. I was so annoyed, just woken 695 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: up and I was like, great happening, great start to 696 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,880 Speaker 1: my proposal. She's pissed, and so she's she sets up 697 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: the tripod wide angle. Finally convinced her, I'm like, all right, 698 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: go stand over there, let me see how it looks, 699 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: let me see the framing. And I hit record and 700 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,239 Speaker 1: and then I walk over and I just start kind 701 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: of playing that little did he. I mean it's I'm 702 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: literally just like talking, not even looking at Honestly, I 703 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,399 Speaker 1: think it might have been the most mad I've ever 704 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: been at You do you remember the did he? Yeah? 705 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,360 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the love of my life. You 706 00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: know the girl on that tw okay, Lucy, will you 707 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: marry me? It's just like literally literally like four lines. 708 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: And so when did it? He said, Kaylee, Kaylee Holly 709 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: love a lot Seymour, nickname, middle name. I have that 710 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 1: her five older brothers. When the family is that big, 711 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, the the kids by the by the six kid, 712 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: are you from a big family? He's not a night there. Yeah. 713 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: By the time it gets to the six kid, they've 714 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: got twelve names. They've got you know, the teachers don't 715 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 1: even know their actual name. And I was the only 716 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: girl and it was the pink care bear was named 717 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: the Love a Lot and so everything was pink. My 718 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: whole room was pink. The carpet was pink because my 719 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 1: parents were like, we're having a girl. And so love 720 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,959 Speaker 1: Lot was a nickname, middle name. So when he said 721 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: Kaylee Holly love a lot Seymour, I was like I 722 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: looked up and I was like, wait a second. And 723 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: that's when I was like, oh my gosh, like I 724 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: really truly had no idea, Like the surprise factor was 725 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: you nailed it? You did? I was pulled it out 726 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 1: the ring. Oh that's not my story. So let's go 727 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: to the yours video. Yeah, you shot this for it 728 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 1: was inexpensive video, very about less than ten dollars, less 729 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: than ten almost half. Yeah, so tell me about that. 730 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 1: So again, we had been denied and denied and denied, 731 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 1: and it just got to the point where I was 732 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: so frustrated but also so hopeful, and I was like, 733 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:37,600 Speaker 1: I know that, I know that, I know. Like I 734 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 1: listened to the radio, I hear these songs. I maybe 735 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: way off, but this sounds like a hit to me, 736 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: and I'm going to put everything on this song. So 737 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,800 Speaker 1: a six dollars six I'm gonna put my life savings 738 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: on this song, honestly, and so and so we did, 739 00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: and like she, we didn't. We didn't even really have 740 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: a plan. This was just supposed to be test footage. 741 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,719 Speaker 1: We're just gonna like hopefully find a road that I 742 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 1: could just walk down. That's all I really had envisioned 743 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,200 Speaker 1: for for the video. It was just like I'm just 744 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 1: gonna walk down this road. I'm gonna pour my heart 745 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: out to the camera and sing this song, and that's it, 746 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: Like see what happens. I had I had done music 747 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: videos and all of that through college. So when I 748 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: stopped loving performing. I started doing music videos and photo shoots, 749 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: and so I did his first I did all of 750 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: his photo shoots maybe except for one and then this 751 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: one is our friend Spencer did those, but other than that, 752 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: I did all of his stuff. And so I was like, 753 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: you know what, like because we had actually gone in 754 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: and it was the final no that we were like, okay, 755 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: well now we have to do this ourselves. No one's 756 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 1: going to help us. And I was like, I can 757 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: make music video. I did a music video for Nora Jones, 758 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: like let's do it. Yeah, she's over here. I was like, 759 00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: let's let's just I don't know why we didn't think 760 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: of it us, and and so I was like, I'll 761 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: just do it myself. I can't hire anyone. We can't 762 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: afford to hire anyone. I'll just film it and I'll 763 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: edit it and I'll do the whole thing. And so 764 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: that day I was like, let's get in the car. 765 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 1: We had a friend living with us because he had 766 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: nowhere to go, and I was like, hey, will you 767 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:16,880 Speaker 1: drive our car while I sit in the back with 768 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: our tripod? And so we found a road and as 769 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: we're leaving, he was like in workout clothes, and I 770 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: was like, I want to be sure that this like 771 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: could work if you like it, so put on like 772 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: real clothes. It was like test footage. I was like, 773 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: just put on real clothes. And we hop in the 774 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,759 Speaker 1: car and the storm starts rolling in and I was like, 775 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. And 776 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: I had called a cinematographer friend of mine in l A. 777 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:39,879 Speaker 1: And I was like, Hey, I just want to double 778 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: check my settings. I want to be sure I'm doing 779 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: this right. He didn't get back to me, and I 780 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: was like, all right, well, I hope this is right. 781 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: Get out there. This whole storm rolls and lightning, the 782 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 1: whole thing is real. Because we can't pay for c 783 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 1: G I like tornado warning. Ye are calling us to 784 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: come to our basement for shelter, and we're like out 785 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: in it. I'm stop calling us. And they would call 786 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: us in the middle because we were using our phone 787 00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: as playback to the car speakers and so like it 788 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: was just like every time they called. It was just 789 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,879 Speaker 1: like the most ghetto set up it was. And so 790 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: we finished and then it started pouring rain at the 791 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: very end, Like I was like, God, this is what 792 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,920 Speaker 1: would be great. I need all these things, and then 793 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: when we're done, if it could rain, that would be 794 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: awesome and no joke, like we had everything we needed 795 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:32,359 Speaker 1: and then it started pouring. And so then my friend 796 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: called me back as we're on our way back, and 797 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, my settings were this, this and that, 798 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: and he was like, I would have told you to 799 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: do exactly that, and I was like yes, And so 800 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,880 Speaker 1: I got home started editing it, and then I had 801 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: to make it black and white because the tail lights 802 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: this is rich right here, the tail lights from the car. 803 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 1: When our buddy would hit the brakes, it would light 804 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,759 Speaker 1: them up red, so like you could tell. Yeah, And 805 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: I was like, well, black and white it is a necessity. 806 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 1: Out of necessity, we couldn't have used anything. That's a 807 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,319 Speaker 1: great story for that music video. Yeah. And so well 808 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: you finished school, what is your what do you finish school? 809 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 1: The degree and killing music music commercial voice performance? So 810 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: same yeah, same as me. But you didn't want to 811 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: be a performer anymore, or you didn't want to go 812 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,279 Speaker 1: down that professionally anyway. Now I didn't. I moving to 813 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 1: Nashville made me realize, like what it would take and 814 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: I'm such a family person and like want we want 815 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: to start our own family, and I just kind of 816 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: saw it as like, there's no way I could be 817 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: the kind of like mom, I'd want to be in 818 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: the future and do this, and some people do that 819 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: and good for them. I just was like, I don't 820 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: think I could do it. And I also wasn't passionate 821 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: like it would have. Just if someone were to tell 822 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: me I couldn't shoot a music video, I would be like, 823 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: you're wrong, I can't. I know I can. But if 824 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: someone told me I couldn't sing, I'd be like, maybe 825 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 1: you're right, you know, Like I wasn't passionate enough to 826 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: be like listen to me saying I think it takes 827 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: the right kind of person to be good at it 828 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,839 Speaker 1: and also not need to like proclaim it from the rooftops, 829 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: but people like still draw it out of you somehow. 830 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't know you have that that it's not like 831 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 1: egotistical and it's not like listen to me saying I 832 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: just couldn't do it. If you were to like be 833 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: like saying from he right now, I would be like, 834 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:29,359 Speaker 1: think you did you try to get it a thing 835 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,480 Speaker 1: on anything before? I mean there's times were like but 836 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,760 Speaker 1: like like I recorded like on a on a track. 837 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did a Christmas song. Yeah, it was 838 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: like our our little I mean we made five discsily, 839 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: what's not on you? I didn't see anything it was. 840 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: It was a Christmas gift to our family when we 841 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,160 Speaker 1: were super broke the year we made twelve and we're like, 842 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: well what do we give everybody? We have no money 843 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: to buy gifts, so we've made Christmas songs. When you 844 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 1: want to get him a taste, oh white Christmas. Nice? Yeah, 845 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: we can definitely do that. I'll definitely help you about 846 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: listening and supporting you in the Heart Boo book, Do 847 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: It Girl Dreaming Christmas? Just like the that was amazing, 848 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 1: really good. Really yeah, she's got that like little Zoe Deschanel, cute, 849 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: little indie vibe. I love it. Yeah right, yeah that's right. 850 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,839 Speaker 1: I'm so risingly good. So were you like terrified, would 851 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 1: you like what if she's no, because I'd have been like, 852 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,480 Speaker 1: oh I get it, you don't want to any I 853 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,279 Speaker 1: was like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no problem. I'd 854 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: be like, weren't trying that? Totally understand So when you 855 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 1: finish al though, So what career path, Like, what was 856 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,480 Speaker 1: the goal then, because you're not going to perform I 857 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: did photography, You're going she supported our family. Yeah, I 858 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: did pictures of what I did, and I ended up 859 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: doing more video like weddings. This is a very niche market. 860 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: I did full time. I was a missions photographer for 861 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: two years out of college. So an organization out of 862 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: Dallas called Missions International would pay for me to go 863 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: and document their trips and I was on salary with them. 864 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: And then so when t R and Lauren went to adopt, 865 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: Lauren was like, will you please come with us? Um, A, 866 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: I want you to be there, but be other people 867 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 1: want to document it and I don't know them, and 868 00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: so she was like, you've done this, So um I 869 00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: went with them, and then I did a lot of 870 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,719 Speaker 1: album covers and kind of branding sort of things. And 871 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,279 Speaker 1: then when he started to get really business busy and 872 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: being able to support us, I transitioned out of doing 873 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 1: other people's stuff and just did his stuff and went 874 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,640 Speaker 1: on the road and did all his highlight videos from 875 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: the road. Oh don't just brush over this, this is 876 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:13,720 Speaker 1: this deserves a moment. She let me just brag real quick. 877 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,759 Speaker 1: She first of all, she was five older brothers. They 878 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: all played travel soccer and they drove all across America 879 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 1: in a van growing up. So when we got married, 880 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 1: she hopped in our van. She took the live photos 881 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,879 Speaker 1: while we're playing. She sold the merch, set up the merch, 882 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: after designed the merch uh and then after the show 883 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: would take every meet and Greek photo until you know, 884 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 1: I mean there's like fifteen people per night. But I 885 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: mean she would shoot, tear down the merch, load the merch, 886 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like she was a road warrior, 887 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: throw the van and trailer, and I was pretty good 888 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 1: at why turning a trailer by the time I retired. Yeah, 889 00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, like this woman just let me brag on 890 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 1: her for two seconds. She was warrior. So you have 891 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,280 Speaker 1: it's an investment. So you're investing back into this nucleus. Yeah, 892 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,680 Speaker 1: because again you have to pay somebody to do all 893 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: that stuff, right, because I mean money, money's money, however 894 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: it comes from, however it comes, money's money. So I 895 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: wasn't like making us money, but I was saving us 896 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:18,360 Speaker 1: money absolute and I was like I can do that. 897 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 1: I can do that. That's the three in me. I'm like, 898 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: I can do it between the between the music video 899 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: and coming out on the road. I mean the the 900 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: jump start that the video had on my career and 901 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:37,480 Speaker 1: then the countless dollars and hours that you saved. I mean, yeah, 902 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: it's not your not your typical. So what is your 903 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: official position with him? I don't know. I don't need one. 904 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 1: But if someone says, what do you do? What do 905 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: you say? I hate that question. Yeah, but that's the question. 906 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: That's the question. I say. I'm a touring wife now 907 00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: because now we're in a place that we've hired other people, 908 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 1: and so like, I do still like vet who ends 909 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: up being a photographer if I like their work or not, 910 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: I still I kind of creative direct. If someone asked, 911 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,680 Speaker 1: really I oversee like this, and I oversee graphic design, 912 00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 1: and yes, no like ad mats and like I made 913 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: the Carly and Russ tour ad mat. His one came 914 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: back and I was like absolutely not, like redid the 915 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,080 Speaker 1: whole thing. And then when management calls, they're like, hey, 916 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,480 Speaker 1: can you and Kaylee come in for this meeting to brainstorm? 917 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,719 Speaker 1: So she's kind of CEO of ate of this, of 918 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: you you So it makes me sound uncomfortable, But I 919 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:45,400 Speaker 1: mean it is you are you are? We're co No, 920 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:51,080 Speaker 1: you're still okay, so you're CEO, You're ce FO. I 921 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,640 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know. So okay, but did you 922 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: ever consider going into management and doing management for him? 923 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,160 Speaker 1: Everyone question? No, because I didn't. I don't know. I didn't. 924 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to get that official official like I don't know. 925 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to have I didn't need the industries 926 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 1: like recognition of like oh, she manages Russell and I 927 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 1: almost didn't want that. Like when people call me a 928 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: white pitcher, it makes like I've never heard that term. Well, 929 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: I compared you to Sharon Osborne when I was talking 930 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,799 Speaker 1: about you, okay, because she means she. I don't know she. 931 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't think she's Aussie's main manager, but she definitely 932 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: she's involved. Yeah, and she may have been his manager, 933 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 1: Mike when you looked that up. But yeah, I compared 934 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: you to Sharon Osbald because she ran that Aussy was 935 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: the guy and he did the deal. She made sure 936 00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: nobody nobody mess with Ausy. Yeah, for sure. I feel 937 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 1: like a gatekeeper to some extent, and like even when 938 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: it means like when people come backstage, if they do 939 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 1: or like because I'm monitoring his energy levels and like 940 00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: because he'll go hard and yeah protoh he crashes And 941 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well yeah, because I go hard and 942 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,239 Speaker 1: then and then zero you know what I mean. But 943 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: I don't know there was We're it's such like a 944 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 1: family vibe with my team that to have her as 945 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: like an official anything would just feel we feel weird. Kaylie, 946 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 1: I told you five four and your six for works 947 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,359 Speaker 1: for it's the whole foot. When I was doing math 948 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: real quick, I was like, whole, I don't want to mess. 949 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:34,080 Speaker 1: That's my big shot to show my numbers, my skills 950 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,200 Speaker 1: and numbers sharing she didn't manage them, and then started 951 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 1: the whole management company, started the whole companyeez um, you 952 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,919 Speaker 1: also did you did another video for him? Right blue? 953 00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: To me? Yeah, so I brought in. I was full circle. 954 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 1: My fourth brother is a director in l A, went 955 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: to USC film school, did the whole thing and he 956 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,759 Speaker 1: was the one directing. The reason I did in nor 957 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,800 Speaker 1: Jones video was because of him and he was directing 958 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,719 Speaker 1: it and brought me into shoot which video a young 959 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,800 Speaker 1: blood if we look it up, young blood, young blood 960 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:05,920 Speaker 1: and he was like, I want you to film it, 961 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 1: and I had filmed a few things, but it was 962 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 1: like nothing officially. I had only done photos at that point, 963 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,320 Speaker 1: and I was doing head shots because the musical theater 964 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 1: department's big at Belmont and I was doing head shots. 965 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: Was like my college money basically, and he was like, 966 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: I want you to film this and I was like, 967 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: I've never done that, and he was like, I trust 968 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,839 Speaker 1: you an eye and I and he's like, I want 969 00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: to fly you to New York and I want you 970 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 1: to film it. And I was like, okay, what are 971 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,000 Speaker 1: we doing? And he was like, do you know who 972 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,480 Speaker 1: Nora Jones is? And I was like yes, but like reminder, 973 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,839 Speaker 1: I've never done this, and so he's like, no, I 974 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:38,759 Speaker 1: believe in you. So I flew out there shot her 975 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 1: music video in her apartment and I got to meet 976 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 1: her and it was crazy. So then I moved back 977 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: to that went back to Belmont and everyone was like, 978 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 1: that's the girl that shot Nora Jones music video. So 979 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: then I got so much business and that was like NonStop. 980 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,879 Speaker 1: But then when this music video was happening, we still 981 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: it was still a new label, young label, still didn't 982 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: have a real big budget, and I was like at 983 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: that point, I was like, I don't have to do it, 984 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: like someone else can come in, Like, let's see the treatments. 985 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: I saw the treatments and I was like I don't 986 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: love them, and um and then I saw the numbers 987 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, for this to 988 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 1: get pulled off, I still have to do it. And 989 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: so I called my brother and I was like, hey, 990 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 1: he lives in l A. And I was like, we 991 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: need to film this in California obviously, will you help me. 992 00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: You can take the entire director percentage, which was like 993 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: not a lot, and he was like, yeah, I'll do it. 994 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,840 Speaker 1: So we got to direct together again after all that time, 995 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:35,960 Speaker 1: and it was just it was just a sweet, like 996 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 1: full circle bringing him in and we'll probably bring him in. 997 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: He's like a creative genius. But um, yeah, it was 998 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: just cool. Where were you in the song hit number one? 999 00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: Where where we I think we were on the road. 1000 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 1: It's funny that we can't remember. I don't. I don't 1001 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 1: remember I was in waffle House for the most recent 1002 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,320 Speaker 1: I was like, we're going to waffle house. Baby is 1003 00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 1: the jam? I don't So my thing is I don't 1004 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: hear a lot of oddly I don't hear a lot 1005 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,720 Speaker 1: of music because when I'm doing my show, we're playing 1006 00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 1: like three songs. Now, we're talking the whole time, and 1007 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,439 Speaker 1: we're only playing like and I don't pick them. I'll 1008 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,680 Speaker 1: play new stuff that I like sometimes, but I don't 1009 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,360 Speaker 1: pick the music because it's like we're on like a 1010 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,560 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty cities. They make sure the biggest three 1011 00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: songs the rest. And so unless this song is like one, 1012 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:29,960 Speaker 1: two or three or four, maybe five, I don't hear it. 1013 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,160 Speaker 1: So when this song started hit top and I was like, oh, 1014 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: talk to Amy, I was like, what's the Russell song 1015 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,920 Speaker 1: that I hear that like? But it was already in 1016 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: the top ten, and and then I mean, it's so good. 1017 00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: I love it so but I again, I didn't hear 1018 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: it until the time. But I don't hear anything people 1019 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,399 Speaker 1: like people always ask me you hear so much music? 1020 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't know your crap. Like I talk for a 1021 00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 1: living and I have. I love music, and I love 1022 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: all kinds of music, but I don't. And also my 1023 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: days of like just scouring for somebody on YouTube playing 1024 00:53:58,080 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: a guitar with three strings the next big thing, you 1025 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,919 Speaker 1: know what, I'm just gonna ta be funny. I find 1026 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: people who I really believe, you know, I like take 1027 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,120 Speaker 1: them out, lit him open from me on a tour, 1028 00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,000 Speaker 1: try to help get published deals. But it's like, you know, 1029 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: but this song is a jam. Um, I love that one. 1030 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,040 Speaker 1: This song? Which one moved the fastest? For you? Blue 1031 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: ta Cooma? Really? Yeah? I mean every little thing was 1032 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,120 Speaker 1: longer than yours? Really weeks man, Yeah, it was just 1033 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: the later like the forties was. Then my album came 1034 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,680 Speaker 1: out like three years ago. Now you know, you lose 1035 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:37,440 Speaker 1: you know, you lose that initial steam from Yours to 1036 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: Blue to Come and then the third single was it 1037 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,279 Speaker 1: was a grind. You had six or fifty people at 1038 00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,080 Speaker 1: your wedding. How do you know that many people? My 1039 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:49,800 Speaker 1: dad is a he's the music minister at Woodmont Baptist 1040 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: over here, and it's kind of so the venue was 1041 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,879 Speaker 1: free at the church, and it was kind of like 1042 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,359 Speaker 1: once you invite one, you invite them all kind of vibe. 1043 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: But we did like we just did like a cake's 1044 00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:05,200 Speaker 1: reception at the right immediately following the wedding, and then 1045 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: we had to people at our actual like family friends, 1046 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 1: love to Wedding, FA wedding and the ceremony, cake reception, 1047 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: closed reception. I was like, I don't want to meet 1048 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:23,200 Speaker 1: anyone at our wedding. You don't want to have to 1049 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,360 Speaker 1: do the whole song, and right well that still didn't 1050 00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,719 Speaker 1: happen because there were six people. And but anyway, I 1051 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,359 Speaker 1: want it. Definitely wanted something a little smaller, but here 1052 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 1: we are. How do you feel about girls who try 1053 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:46,759 Speaker 1: to get it Russell during shows? I really don't care, honestly. 1054 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,440 Speaker 1: I there are some girls who like sit side stage 1055 00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,440 Speaker 1: and are like I, and the girls who are like I. 1056 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think a I trust him like 1057 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,600 Speaker 1: crazy bit be they know so many of them, like 1058 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: even if someone comments something on one of his things, 1059 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: like the droves of people who come out there like 1060 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: excuse me, do you know Kate, Like they just like 1061 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: have a whole thing. I was at a show once 1062 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,160 Speaker 1: actually this is pretty early on, and some girl was 1063 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 1: in this like little red dress at the front of 1064 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: the stage. I was still out in the crowd at 1065 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: that point, and this girl came up to me and 1066 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: she was like, excuse me, I'm going to go say 1067 00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,439 Speaker 1: something to her, and I was like, please, don't, please, 1068 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: don't say anything, and she was like this is inappropriate, 1069 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,080 Speaker 1: Like everybody knows he's married, and if you don't know 1070 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,239 Speaker 1: he's married, you're not a real fan. Like she like 1071 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 1: got this whole like it's okay, it's all fine, Like 1072 00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:40,160 Speaker 1: please don't say anything, it's fine. Well, not to be 1073 00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 1: awkward here, but on the phone right now, is the 1074 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 1: one girl you made out with? I was like, my heart, 1075 00:56:48,280 --> 00:57:01,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. Oh, so, what's what's happening looking 1076 00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,239 Speaker 1: forward for you right now? Like where are you at? 1077 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,359 Speaker 1: You get music recorded? That? Like, what's the what's what's 1078 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,959 Speaker 1: the timeline, what's happening? We have a so the next 1079 00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,800 Speaker 1: single it's called love You like I used to. It'll 1080 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,240 Speaker 1: be February, early February coming out. We got six songs 1081 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: recorded for the record, go in and probably cut four 1082 00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,880 Speaker 1: more in February. Are you doing any of the What 1083 00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 1: is very vogue right now is the collaborations. Do you 1084 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,120 Speaker 1: have any? It's very in right now, it's super in 1085 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 1: right now. Everybody's getting a collaboration. I know, and I don't. 1086 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean I don't have any as of now. Uh, 1087 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: I would love some. I haven't really. I feel like 1088 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,919 Speaker 1: we'll get there once we get it. All recorded and out. 1089 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 1: Barbra Streisan, Oh what a classic? What a classic? Uh? 1090 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 1: Would you let him sing a love song with another girl? Yeah? Yeah, Um, 1091 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm always down for collapse. I'll do a whole 1092 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 1: edge hearing collab album. My prediction is you will have 1093 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 1: one by the time you feel you're only six songs totally. Yeah, absolutely, 1094 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 1: you'll have something. That's the thing. Now, how do you 1095 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: feel about that? Um? You know, I feel like I do. 1096 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,160 Speaker 1: But everything a couple are really cool. Then if you 1097 00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: come out and it's down the middle and then we 1098 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:18,560 Speaker 1: start to burn on it and then we go to 1099 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,040 Speaker 1: the next thing, it's it's everything is cyclical period in music, 1100 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,720 Speaker 1: every art, it's not even music art, everything is so So, 1101 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 1: how do I feel about it? Great? Then medium? Then 1102 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: let's get over it? Right, I'm kind of over its. Well, 1103 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: you're in the business, so you're seeing it a lot more, 1104 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,680 Speaker 1: and you're seeing it from the early early stages of 1105 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:41,920 Speaker 1: the talks of it. The we're gonna recording this, and 1106 00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 1: we've heard it yet it's actually out that forty two 1107 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 1: weeks before it even hits the chart, So we both 1108 00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 1: I have to separate myself from what I know on 1109 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,840 Speaker 1: the inside versus like what my people are hearing, which 1110 00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,320 Speaker 1: is one why I don't listen to new music from 1111 00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,760 Speaker 1: any of my friends ever until it comes out. Maybe 1112 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: two people ever while I be while I take their music, 1113 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,760 Speaker 1: can listen to it um, because then I just don't 1114 00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,880 Speaker 1: feel the same. Even my favorite artist, I won't take 1115 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: their music because I want to be able to because 1116 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I represent all my people and so 1117 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to be burned out on something before 1118 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 1: it even comes out, because it's not fair to them. 1119 00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: So but I'm okay with it. There's some really good ones. 1120 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,919 Speaker 1: Let's not do bad ones, but let's do a good one. Um, 1121 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,560 Speaker 1: really good collaborations happening right now. Well, first of all, 1122 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 1: the and we'll go back in time for a second, 1123 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 1: but maybe let im back And that's the j It 1124 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,640 Speaker 1: just was like boom the world just I remember once 1125 00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 1: I was driving somewhere, I was flipping I was on 1126 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:43,040 Speaker 1: satellite and I heard that song the first time, and 1127 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:46,640 Speaker 1: I was like, that's that. That's like the greatest radio 1128 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: song I've heard in yours. I mean, I just heard 1129 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,800 Speaker 1: it and I didn't know who it was on it, 1130 00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know what didn't and I was just like, 1131 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: won't there is and so and then I think that 1132 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,880 Speaker 1: kind of line people up to go, oh we should 1133 01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: grab some more dudes. Yeah, um good ones. All right, 1134 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,400 Speaker 1: let's go around the room. I'm gonna go. I do 1135 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 1: like the Dan and sha Bieber song, Yes, because I 1136 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,440 Speaker 1: just love Dan and Jay totally. So I don't know. 1137 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,640 Speaker 1: It can be Dan and Shaye and me. You know, 1138 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whatever they put out, it is going 1139 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: to be good. But this is this is a jam 1140 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Russell got a collaboration you like right now, don't see? 1141 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean, if we're still going back in time when 1142 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,360 Speaker 1: when Lauren Elena comes in on that came Brown song, 1143 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: what about with me again? An early one too? Like 1144 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,919 Speaker 1: when she comes into that course, it was like whoa, yes, 1145 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 1: there we go. I mean mine, I don't know the 1146 01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,280 Speaker 1: name of it, but it's the if the World was 1147 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:49,320 Speaker 1: ending you JP, JP Sacks and Julia Michaels this this 1148 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,920 Speaker 1: deserves a little sound. But Hannah Gray, Ellis and Ellis 1149 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 1: and Nick Wayne covered it and it is straight fire. 1150 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Who is this one? Mike? Do you know what it is? 1151 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:02,440 Speaker 1: I can't find it. Julia Michael on her record and 1152 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 1: now it's I think it's on JP sacks s A 1153 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: x E. Who's JPS. I don't know who that is though, 1154 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: he's like, might be like smart, I was, I don't 1155 01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 1: know anything. He's got like thirty k on Instagram. I looked. 1156 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,160 Speaker 1: As soon as I heard that, I messaged him. I 1157 01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:17,960 Speaker 1: was like, dude, can we play what's it called? If 1158 01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:22,600 Speaker 1: the World wasn't? And in traffic? I didn't feel it 1159 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,920 Speaker 1: when the earthquake happened, but it really got me thinking, 1160 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,160 Speaker 1: were you out drinking? Were you in the lift? If 1161 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: the world was ending? It's been a year like this 1162 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,920 Speaker 1: earthquake happens and it's like she thinks about her what 1163 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,400 Speaker 1: she's doing, and the rock shows up. Yeah's in that movie? 1164 01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 1: You know? The one that I like now is that 1165 01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: I like the Ed Shearing. It's been out for ed 1166 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: Sharing and uh Khalid beautiful people People. That is the 1167 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:56,360 Speaker 1: dad song. That's a jam. Yeah, I'm in I'm into 1168 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 1: the Collapse big time. I mean that whole album, the 1169 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Travis Scott Oh yeah, what's in the club at the 1170 01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: beginning of that track? Yeah, yes, the whole that album 1171 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,680 Speaker 1: is great. Yeah. So you're going out with Kane, Yes, 1172 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: And so there's also like international stuff in there. Huh 1173 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 1: Is that true? He is? Yeah, I'm not on that. 1174 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: I'm just in America. Correct, We need to come on. 1175 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: I kind of nixed him international stuff for the next year, 1176 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 1: like we were. We were international twice last year and 1177 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: we were like, oh my gosh, we need to take 1178 01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:38,000 Speaker 1: a circumnavigated the globe when around the whole thing lay 1179 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,120 Speaker 1: over in China Europe? How long do you go with Kane? 1180 01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:42,560 Speaker 1: I have until May night here, I don't know. I 1181 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,400 Speaker 1: don't know, February to May night into February. You already 1182 01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: have tour stuff planning for next fall. You just haven't 1183 01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,680 Speaker 1: announced you Are you still working on that ahead? Is it? 1184 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,880 Speaker 1: We're so? Then the summer is like fairs and festivals, 1185 01:02:53,280 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 1: classic and then headlining slash. Yeah, unannounced stuff. Yeah, it's exciety. Yeah. 1186 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: Festivals stages just built for the day stage semi trucks 1187 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:11,480 Speaker 1: that transformers into a day. Well look at you at 1188 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 1: the peanut fests and the Sausage Fest and the Point 1189 01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: Cedia Fest, and you know, all the fests. To be 1190 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 1: fair to all the fests, there is no paycheck like 1191 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:28,040 Speaker 1: a festival paycheck. You were indeed correct, They're great and 1192 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:32,000 Speaker 1: there's really no pressure to draw tickets. Usually there's somebody 1193 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,800 Speaker 1: bigger than you plan too, or even if not, people 1194 01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,400 Speaker 1: are already there. It's just like we're on a Thursday, 1195 01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,680 Speaker 1: and like some like Classic Legacy Act is on Friday, 1196 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,840 Speaker 1: Arners on Friday, and then Cake is playing on Saturday. 1197 01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: You've got it all covered in all directions. Exactly. Amazing. Well, 1198 01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,120 Speaker 1: I look forward to the to the new music. Yeah, man, 1199 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm I'm super stoked. And then I'm glad both you 1200 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 1: guys would come in. I know that you were sick. 1201 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna do this earlier and more so than I 1202 01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 1: cared about you being sick. I cared about me getting 1203 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: sick from you, and I would never I would never 1204 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 1: want I was like, I hope he's cool with that 1205 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,600 Speaker 1: because it's literally for everyone's own good. Yeah. He was 1206 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,760 Speaker 1: like a hundred and two fever. You know he's sick 1207 01:04:12,840 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 1: when he's like because he is like every day is 1208 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 1: awesome and I'm only a seven. He's like, I guess 1209 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,720 Speaker 1: I'll sleep till nine, you know, like, yeah, do you 1210 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 1: do the thing where you go because this is what's 1211 01:04:27,640 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 1: gonna happen to me in the next few days. I 1212 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,800 Speaker 1: will get sick because I have been pressing. I've been 1213 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,400 Speaker 1: pressing so hard and it's what we all do. But 1214 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 1: I mean, in my mind, I've been pressing hard and going, 1215 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,080 Speaker 1: and I get very grateful. Then I'm not sick during 1216 01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,480 Speaker 1: big things. Yes, because if I'm like, I have this 1217 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:44,880 Speaker 1: big stand up show I'm gonna do, or I have 1218 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,400 Speaker 1: this big American I don't think i'm gonna do. Please God, 1219 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 1: don't let me be sick. And then I'm not sick, 1220 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,320 Speaker 1: and I'm like, thank you God, I'm not sick. But 1221 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:53,840 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just constantly praying and battling. It's 1222 01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:59,040 Speaker 1: like December comes, it's like it's uh, not here way 1223 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:04,520 Speaker 1: the next guys, they're all parts of the little Green guys, 1224 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 1: big Green Blob guys are coming all of it. Um 1225 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:14,960 Speaker 1: a little throw back. Here's that's my girl from from 1226 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 1: Yeah right there. I am not great, but I did 1227 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,400 Speaker 1: it in college. Here is from two thousand twelve green 1228 01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:30,400 Speaker 1: Line Russell. Who's the one let's take her out of 1229 01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 1: the equation. Who's the one person that believed in you 1230 01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:37,240 Speaker 1: excluding her your career, in your career, who's the one 1231 01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,000 Speaker 1: person that you go Holy moly without them? I just 1232 01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,280 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be here. John Dennis, my manager, he signed 1233 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:47,560 Speaker 1: me in two thousand ten. Uh. Yeah, he's the one 1234 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 1: who has steadily for a decade. Now, wow, that's weird. 1235 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: A decade has believed in me, signed me. I had nothing. 1236 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 1: He took me to every label all said no, you know, 1237 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,400 Speaker 1: he didn't. He never gave up on me. And there 1238 01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:06,000 Speaker 1: was artists along the way that he would sign. Taking 1239 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 1: the labels they'd say, no, he he dropped, you know, 1240 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: but for some reason he always kept me around and 1241 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 1: would continue to to brainstorm with me. Um. We we 1242 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 1: started our own record label for yours and that was 1243 01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: how we jumped started that. You know, we legally started 1244 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,880 Speaker 1: a record label. We didn't have a you know, millions 1245 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,479 Speaker 1: of dollars, but we just he paid for your track 1246 01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:33,920 Speaker 1: to get fixed. Yeah. He always my Nissan Armada two 1247 01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 1: thousand four that I would drive, Uh would break down, 1248 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: still drive it, it would break downs. He would, you know, 1249 01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: pay for all that and eventually finally we recouped all that. 1250 01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 1: Did you get him a Cristis present? This year? We 1251 01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 1: don't really, I know, I know, it's super embarrassing. We 1252 01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: never really like do Christmas presents. Well, we're in the 1253 01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 1: middle of moving, so we'll give everyone a delay. Like St. 1254 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:06,120 Speaker 1: Patrick's president, Yeah, give him a Valentine's Day. Yeah, it's no. 1255 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,439 Speaker 1: I mean, like movers come this weekend, like the next 1256 01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:13,320 Speaker 1: two days. So we've kind of just been in a yeah, 1257 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,960 Speaker 1: dizzy dizzy I don't know either work. Yes, well, let's 1258 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:21,080 Speaker 1: I really enjoy talking about you guys, to spend it 1259 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:25,560 Speaker 1: over hour and finally, yeah, it's been a long time coming, 1260 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:31,720 Speaker 1: has it. I mean I've he's like, I've been waiting 1261 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,120 Speaker 1: for you to call me. I see all these awesome 1262 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:38,120 Speaker 1: artists on Well, this to me is so fine because one, 1263 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,680 Speaker 1: it's long form, you can just talk. It's not six 1264 01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: minute blocks or two minute blocks. And too, I also 1265 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: get to talk to people about deeper in the craft, 1266 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: and I get to talk to people actually inside the craft, 1267 01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:53,760 Speaker 1: like Tom Douglas comes and talks or what a well 1268 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 1: spring or m Carrie Luke's manager, Carry Las comes, Here's 1269 01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Luke and Colesman and talks about that side of it. 1270 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 1: So I'm such a such a nerd of of like 1271 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,520 Speaker 1: music and business that um I enjoyed, and it's in 1272 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: my house basically, come here. Nobody comes to my house 1273 01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,400 Speaker 1: except for people for this show. I'm super like nobody 1274 01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 1: who come to my house. And then except for everybody 1275 01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:17,040 Speaker 1: who's able to do the show, some of them I've 1276 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 1: never even met before. So I do want to throw 1277 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,320 Speaker 1: in When you were talking about the Brooks and Dunn hits, 1278 01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:24,639 Speaker 1: I just want to throw in Cowboy Town. Oh he's 1279 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 1: referencing if I get to pick two songs. Okay, yet 1280 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,360 Speaker 1: you're right, Cowboys don't Owy Town. I would like to 1281 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:33,600 Speaker 1: say I heard him do a demo once that h No, 1282 01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 1: you don't. You have to pick the hits. I'm not 1283 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,519 Speaker 1: saying it's it's not it's not the most massive hit. 1284 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: I get two songs to play with Brooks and Dune, 1285 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,720 Speaker 1: this one just hits me. And if you get to pick, 1286 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 1: what did you pick? I picked Neon Moon, Yes absolutely, 1287 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,599 Speaker 1: and probably boot Scoot Bog because that's just the crowd. 1288 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 1: So I've luckily oddly become friends with Ronnie Dunn, who's 1289 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,160 Speaker 1: known as super sarcastic, dry guy and people like man Ronnie. 1290 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,240 Speaker 1: But that's right up my alley, like we are just 1291 01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:10,519 Speaker 1: like perfect, were like lovers, right and so um I 1292 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: got a note today they were like, hey, they're gonna 1293 01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 1: do Neon Moon and Red Dirt Road and I was 1294 01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:17,400 Speaker 1: like it was like Red Road's fine, but let me 1295 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,520 Speaker 1: hit Ronnie up but te him out of that boot scoogie. 1296 01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 1: So all right, listen that that's all russelled D Russell D. 1297 01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,640 Speaker 1: But you spell your last name with the e at 1298 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,360 Speaker 1: the end. Is that true? It was just spelled wrong 1299 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: with my sheet rustled. Yeah, russet rustled Instagram. That's my Instagram. 1300 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,679 Speaker 1: That's so confusing. I know it's like Russell. I wanted 1301 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,840 Speaker 1: to go for Russell D, but then I just did 1302 01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,120 Speaker 1: Russell E D both of my initials and it's just 1303 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 1: so ull right yeah Russell Yeah. And then Kayleie Dickerson, 1304 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 1: are you are you verified? No? I'm not. Are you verified? Okay? 1305 01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,240 Speaker 1: Not to insult him, I mean yeah, I would just 1306 01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:58,800 Speaker 1: expect you should be verified. She absolutely ship Yeah, are 1307 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,559 Speaker 1: you verified on Twitter? Are you verified on Twitter? That 1308 01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,760 Speaker 1: was a big day the Twitter with verification back in 1309 01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:08,120 Speaker 1: the day because that was the first verification. That's that's 1310 01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: like introt of verification. Yeah. I remember the day, like, 1311 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, you're like, wow, a my famous. But 1312 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 1: that was like before they would like give it out 1313 01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,880 Speaker 1: to like influence or like herbal t influencers you know 1314 01:10:20,920 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 1: what I mean, used to be on the Bachelor, and 1315 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 1: that's how we'll end it. And then I can find that. Yeah, 1316 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 1: well data isn't the word. Well, you know went on it. 1317 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,439 Speaker 1: You may know them, and it's I don't know no. 1318 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:36,280 Speaker 1: All right, let's see you guys,