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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast. Can't play the guitar. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Round the League Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus and I'm joined by two heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and Greg Rosenthal. What up? Boys? Happy Thanksgiving?

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Speaker 1: One day removed the day after? Three heroes? Really? Why

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Speaker 1: isn't Crystal a hero? I think she's a hero. She's

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Speaker 1: a heroine, definitely a hero, but she's not in the

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Speaker 1: heroin So I would have to say, like the structure

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Speaker 1: full of heroes, and that doesn't really have the same ring.

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Speaker 1: If you notice that Dan isn't quite as excited um

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Speaker 1: with his intro today, it's because I showed up here

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Speaker 1: for the podcast. They thought they were getting a boss,

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Speaker 1: a boss free podcast because I'm not here at work today.

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Speaker 1: And you know, look, I don't I don't blame him.

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Speaker 1: It's a little more exciting that you're gonna run the place.

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Speaker 1: But but but I like I like this type of

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Speaker 1: this logic. But we were happy to have you. Um, yes,

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Speaker 1: it's the day after Thanksgiving. Mark and I were talking

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Speaker 1: downstairs earlier. Um, I have reached maximum levels of fatness.

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Speaker 1: This is what happens every year for the NFL. You start,

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Speaker 1: the season starts, and then they have all these catered

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Speaker 1: dinners and lunches, and then you stop going to the

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Speaker 1: gym as much as you should. Hit the level Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 1: hit the level of maximum fatness, It's time to go

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Speaker 1: to the gym and eat better. Mark, we go to

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Speaker 1: the same gym. We've never seen each other at the gym. Well,

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Speaker 1: I and listen, this is I used to go to

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Speaker 1: which is, you know, a hop, skip and a jump

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Speaker 1: from our workplace, literally half a mile from here. I

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Speaker 1: believe reportedly that Crystal goes there too much. I do,

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Speaker 1: and I don't see any of you guys. I actually

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Speaker 1: saw Patrick goes to. This is very This is maybe

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Speaker 1: subconsciously the reason I don't want to go, because I'm

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Speaker 1: starting from the basement fitness wise, I don't want to

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Speaker 1: deal with I would not want to see you guys

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Speaker 1: working out. That's it's just Chrystal. It's embarrassing. Well that's Crystal.

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Speaker 1: One time I was on the elliptical machine and you

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Speaker 1: didn't want to say anything because it's like, no, I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to say because she was working out. I

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Speaker 1: was doing my thing and it it felt weird. Would

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Speaker 1: you wanted me to come up to you during your

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Speaker 1: workout and say hi? It doesn't bother me at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't have I think that's because you're well, you're

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Speaker 1: in good shape and none of us. I've actually never

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Speaker 1: a true statement. I know it's shocking looking at my physique, um,

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Speaker 1: but it's it's something I've never done about. But you

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Speaker 1: were trimm See. I feel like I am relatively trimmed,

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Speaker 1: but I'm starting to get ugly now. I think you

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Speaker 1: look like general. Well, the biggest issue is sure in

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Speaker 1: a baggy shirt. Yeah, the issue we were talking about,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think you're at maximum fatness levels personally.

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Speaker 1: But we both have to get into suits for the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, for the game itself, for NFL honors. Uh,

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Speaker 1: and at this point it's not happening. So that is

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Speaker 1: the big plan for the member, Uh, eating a little

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Speaker 1: better and going to the gym. Maybe we'll see each

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Speaker 1: other and k Rich I will definitely say hello on

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Speaker 1: New Year's resolutions that will never come to pass. No,

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Speaker 1: this is this is real. But it's like you don't

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Speaker 1: know you're a maximum fat you have, you have a

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Speaker 1: the entire NFL. You know, Bill Belichick. I don't know

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Speaker 1: let's so we'll we'll keep you guys up to date

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Speaker 1: on that. But let's let's move on to the games,

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Speaker 1: and we'll start with the Thanksgiving games. Very uh fascinating,

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Speaker 1: I would say, is the word that describes these three games?

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Speaker 1: Is that fair? Some of these subplots that came out

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Speaker 1: reveal game. The Packers cannot be taken seriously, right, that's

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Speaker 1: You know, people were tweeting at a t L and

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Speaker 1: but they're not a super Bowl team. They here's the schedule,

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Speaker 1: And it's good that they get to play the Bears.

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Speaker 1: You know, if you're a Packers fan and you want

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Speaker 1: the structure. We were saying to each other, listen there,

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Speaker 1: I think they've been a tough team recently. They should

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Speaker 1: enter December, it's all in front of them. They have

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Speaker 1: they should win the division. But they were in position

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Speaker 1: So I'm not willing to assume anything well other than

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Speaker 1: they'll probably be playing for the crown on the last

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Speaker 1: day of the Sea and the weeks seventeen. I'm not

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Speaker 1: else in January. Well, you said, you know, we're trying

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Speaker 1: They have this game they have to go to St. Louis,

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Speaker 1: which is tough. The New Orleans Saints offense is gonna

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Speaker 1: really be challenges all these teams they're playing in the

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00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: next four weeks have great defenses, and the entire round

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Speaker 1: the league team, including the great Kevin Patra, picked the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks in that game. All right, let's move on to

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Speaker 1: our other big marquee game of the week. The Kansas

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Speaker 1: City Chiefs are hosting the Denver Broncos, the second time

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00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 1: these teams are meeting in the last three weeks. Of course,

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00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: the Broncos handed the Chiefs their first loss of the season.

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00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,840
Speaker 1: The Chiefs lost again, and now they're looking to avoid

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00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: a three game losing streak. A key game. Here, Mark,

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00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 1: tell me how you feel about this. We had you

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00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 1: have a hero pick here, a little hero spoiler before

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Speaker 1: our segment. You have the Chiefs knocking off the Broncos

442
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 1: and taking control of the West. I kind of surprised

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00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 1: myself by picking this way because I don't think Kansas

444
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,680
Speaker 1: of the is a superior team to Denver. I think

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00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: they'd go about five and eleven if they played sixteen

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00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: times against each other. If that, maybe not, maybe they

447
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 1: win three. This game, though, in Kansas, was definitely a

448
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 1: sessler and I don't I don't look at each of

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Speaker 1: these games and just say I'm gonna logic this to

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00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,679
Speaker 1: death before I pick one to the other. It's going

451
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 1: to be cold in Kansas City. Dead last Manning seven

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Speaker 1: and ten in games under forty degrees. I don't think

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Speaker 1: this is in a game that the Chiefs have no

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00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,080
Speaker 1: chance and that this is a arrowheads tough to win it.

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00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: You know, last week, if if last week was the

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00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: only week you had watched in the NFL this season,

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00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:46,959
Speaker 1: which would have been strange move. Alex Smith was lighting

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00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 1: up the scoreboard while Peyton Manning was on a run

459
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,959
Speaker 1: first team that couldn't throw the ball down the field

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00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: at all and made some questionable decisions at times as

461
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,400
Speaker 1: they lost the it it was like they traded places,

462
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: you know, like the movies. So is this a one

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00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: week trend? Very much likely, But the Chief's office they

464
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 1: deserve some credit. And I and I am curious as

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00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: you are about what the Broncos offense is gonna look like.

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00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,239
Speaker 1: You know, the Chiefs defense, though, at this point, are

467
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: they even a good defense without justin Houston in this game. Well,

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00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: they haven't been a good defense over the last two weeks,

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00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: given up the average like thirty four points or something

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00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 1: after giving up like twelve all season long. But you

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00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: noted this before They weren't getting to the quarterback. They've

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00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 1: shown no ability like any other team to get to Manning,

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00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,959
Speaker 1: and so I don't think that's the factor. I just

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00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: wonder Kin Kansas City keep this close enough to do something.

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00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: They do so many phases of the game. Well, they

476
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: do all the little things. Well, they don't make mistakes. Typically,

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00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,479
Speaker 1: they're in every one of these games they played this season.

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00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: They have won nine of them. It's not impossible. My

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00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 1: feeling is that the Broncos blew their chance to really

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Speaker 1: have a regular season where people are gonna ride high

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00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 1: on them into January when they blew that game against

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. I think they're a better team than the Chiefs,

483
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: and I think are gonna take care of business. But ultimately, yeah,

484
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: I thought they're gonna win the division anyway. So this

485
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 1: is this game is they're they're gonna take care of

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00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: business and they're gonna roll in the division, and then

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00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. You do you have faith that

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00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: Manning and this Broncos team can play three cold weather

489
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: games and then go play a super Bowl in New

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00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: York City to get in and and go four. Now

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00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: in those games, No, I'm not confident but I think

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00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 1: they're the most talented team in the NFC. They're they're

493
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 1: kind of a tough team to figure out right now.

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00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: They can run the ball, and that's why Peyton Manning

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00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,160
Speaker 1: didn't throw it that well. I think No, Sean Moreno

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00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: deserves a little more credit than he's gotten. He's made

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00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,640
Speaker 1: people miss. I mean, Ray Rice didn't make a single

498
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: person missed last night, or he has an all season

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00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,240
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson never makes anyone miss. No, Sean Marino makes

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00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: people miss. They can run the ball. Just watching that

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00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: Chargers game last week and seeing Keenan Allen just destroy

502
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs with these sing routes, you can easily imagine

503
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 1: Decker and Welker doing that. And you saw the tight

504
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: Ends give the Chiefs all sorts of problems, and you

505
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: can imagine Julius Thomas looks like he's gonna be back

506
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: for this game. I just have a hard time seeing

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00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: the Broncos stay. I think Manning helps quiet that cold

508
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: weather nearray Andy Reid will be a tough Coach of

509
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 1: the Year narrative. When they finished ten and six fighting words, Wait,

510
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: but you you're all over the map right now? All right?

511
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: The third game that kind of jumped out to us.

512
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals suddenly an unstoppable forest within the National

513
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,159
Speaker 1: Football League. It's seven and four, head to Philadelphia to

514
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: play an Eagles team that kim jump back into a

515
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: tie with the Cowboys. With a win, they are six

516
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: and five on their own three game winning streak. Greg,

517
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: I ask you Nick Foles against a very good Cardinals defense,

518
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: will we come back to earth or will he continue

519
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: to light up the planet? I think he'll come back

520
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 1: to earth. This is the best defense they've played. It's

521
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: really the only good defense they've played since Folds has

522
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: gone on this run. Greg and Kevin Patrick both took

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00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in this game, and Wesling, Cessler and myself

524
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: all went with the Eagles. I want to see if

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00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer keeps this run going. He's done it against

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00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: teams that weren't able to rush the passer too well,

527
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 1: but he's thrown it really well for three weeks. I've

528
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:20,959
Speaker 1: even though I picked the Eagles to win the division

529
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: before the year when I watched the week the week,

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00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't fully buy in. If you love narratives, this

531
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: is a great one, though, because there's been some back

532
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: and forth between Arians and Chip Kelly that Kelly runs

533
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: a great college offense and quotes and and Kelly kind

534
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: of fired back saying, you know, we don't really run

535
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: to read option offense. It's just to play and all

536
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: this stuff. It's a little old school news school, right,

537
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: I like the school heat on this coach, heat on

538
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: heat Arians Kelly. Well, there there two of the coaches

539
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: that don't They don't care, they don't give a Eagles

540
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: haven't beaten a winning team all year. Teams, they haven't

541
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 1: been a team with a winning ruck it all year.

542
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: These are two teams, and that feeds into the feeling

543
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: I have. I don't believe really in either of these

544
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: teams that ultimately, when push comes to shove as actual

545
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: NFC contenders. So it will be good to see one

546
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: put the other one in line a little bit here. Well,

547
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: hold on, I believe in Arizona from the defensive side,

548
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: and they actually they've got an interesting group of wide receivers.

549
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's not just coming on we were

550
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, Richard Mendenhall must have done something

551
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: well that we were actually talking about. For a couple

552
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: of minutes. He played He looked healthy. He looked great.

553
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: Ellington's great. They have some weapon. I think they're one

554
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: of the more talented teams, and arians has sort of

555
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: figured out now how to use them. I think they're

556
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: really dangerous. Dan's right there in the sense that you

557
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: know they're running out of time to make a move

558
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: for that wild card spot they need. They need the

559
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: Diners basically to stumble. They've won four straight. No much

560
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,439
Speaker 1: bigger move can They haven't won five in a row

561
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: since nineteen seventies seven, the year Dan was born. It's

562
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: not true. Actually you were born around that time, much later.

563
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: Defend your hero, all right, you know what that means.

564
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: It is time for us to defend our hero. Picks.

565
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: Every week we have a segment devoted to the one

566
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: a t L member that did not that went against

567
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: the grain and chose a team that no one else picked.

568
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: Will start with a game I picked. I have the

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00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans going into Indianapolis and knocking off the Colts.

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00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: I feel I feel pretty good about this. I like

571
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: the fits magic angle going on in Tennessee. I have

572
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: a little vibe something weird happens every year involving playoff teams.

573
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: I kind of think that the Titans could catch the

574
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: Colts feasibly in the a f C South. And I

575
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: think we all know the Cults are playing terrible. If

576
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: you read Jim or says twitter feed, you know that.

577
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: So you see Andrew Luck losing two in a row

578
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 1: for the first time in like a d and fifty years,

579
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen eventually, right, And they couldn't be playing

580
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: any worse. They've been absolutely destroyed two of the last

581
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: three weeks. Even the game they won, they played poorly

582
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: for most of the game before turning it on. I

583
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: think they are in a funk, bordering on a tail spin.

584
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: Do you see so let's so that would scramble this

585
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: division up a little bit with Indie hold on and

586
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: win the South. I don't know. I'm thinking it's gonna

587
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: get interesting. I have that's my pick. I think something

588
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: weird always happens. I think the Titans could be involved. Okay,

589
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: it's magic. They've been outscored. We had it in our

590
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: couch gating Tips of the Week for week thirteam what

591
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: to watch for um that Mark Sessler and I wrote

592
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving for all of you out there, I believe

593
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: the tally was ninety three to twelve in the first

594
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: half of games. The Colts have been outscored the last

595
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: four weeks. I had no fluke. They've looked awful in

596
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: the first half. Awful. They've looked like about as bad

597
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: as I think the Titans are too. I think the

598
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: Colts and the Titans are not in the top twenty

599
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL right now, but I don't think

600
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: the Titans are any better. I do like Dan's hero pick.

601
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: That's you know, sometimes you look at these hero pick

602
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, that's a good one. That's a

603
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: good one. How dare you, sir? Right? If you can

604
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: get a favorite hero pick, that's always a nice spot

605
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: to be in. That was the Ravens last night. All right.

606
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: Our next hero pick the New York Giants heading to

607
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: FedEx Field to play the Washington Redskins, a game that

608
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: you know doesn't have much going for it, to be

609
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: honest with you, of both these teams are also round

610
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: status in the NFC East. However, Mark Sessler believes the

611
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins will come out of this game with a win.

612
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: So I ask you, Sizzler, to defend your hero. Look

613
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: what I would I'm hoping that they win so that

614
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: we can get off this uh r G three narrative

615
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: that's spinning into the abyss. I just I don't want

616
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 1: another week of father visiting locker rooms, brush back comments.

617
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: I just you know what, Look, why don't you back

618
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: off Mark bringing up the father? I would look, this

619
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: is a lost year for Argie three. I don't. I

620
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: don't think he's obviously been fully healthy entire way. We're

621
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: not gonna know till next year what we really have

622
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: in this guy. And I and I just I would

623
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: like to see the Redskins finished this season as soon

624
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: as possible. They're a tough watch, so why But that's

625
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: not that's not really any explanation. Why do you think

626
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: they'll win the game? Well, I don't know. I listen again,

627
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: I with some of these picks. These two teams are

628
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: maddeningly inconsistent. There's nothing to say. Oh, the Giants are obvious.

629
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: Giants are stopping the run really really well. The Redskins

630
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: have more rushing yards per game than any other team

631
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: since Week six. That's one of these see what happens,

632
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: Let's see what happens. I I think maybe Alfred Morris

633
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,239
Speaker 1: is the centerpiece of this all Washington a fashion. Not

634
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: sure that's a good thing actually, but let's go for it.

635
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think the Giants are gonna

636
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 1: play a meaningful game in December, so they would have

637
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: to win this game to fulfill that Prophecy, Eli and

638
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: Cruz and Nicks. These guys are all going to fill

639
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: out statistically. I'm sure at some point they'll wake up

640
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: and they're gonna put up some numbers and went down statistically. Yeah, yeah,

641
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: these guys are They're all gonna mature statistically. It's another

642
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: way saying they're gonna get to their typical numbers. They've

643
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: they've been They've been bad all season. I think the

644
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: Giant's gonna finish pretty well. I don't think it's gonna

645
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: matter ultimately. And you know the Redskins. Redskins are wreck

646
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: did you see them on Monday Night? Giants? Meaningful games

647
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: in December is meaningful for who They're gonna play one

648
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: meaningful game in December that'll be this one. How is

649
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: this meaningful? Because it's the day their season ended? For

650
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: that money, that Monday Night game was potentially the beginning

651
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: of the end for the Shanahan's because if they do

652
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: go through December like that looking like a totally dead team,

653
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: then he's gone. Alright, the final hero pick. I'm gonna

654
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: throw this Cesli really saucy today, so we're gonna keep

655
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: the spotlight on him. Chicago Bears, Minnesota Vikings. Uh Chris Westling,

656
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: who used to work here, he picked the Vikings Mark.

657
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: I will ask you to defend that hero. You know,

658
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't quite see where Chris was coming

659
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: from with this or what state he was in when

660
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: he made this decision. Georgia, Uh, well, I don't know

661
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: if you are the man to be defending this hero.

662
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: Adrian Venison. Adrian Peterson has historically done really well against

663
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: the Bears, three straight hundred yard games. This defense is

664
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: just a wide open prairie land for even average running

665
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: backs to run through. And it's in Minnesota. Look at

666
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: the Bears, they've been a little disappointing. I wouldn't be

667
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: shocked to see the Vikings also have been frisky. They

668
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: played well last week. They took Dallas to the end.

669
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: They're not a terrible team on offense when they want

670
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: to be. I don't like the overall makeup of Minnesota.

671
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 1: But listen, weirder things can happen. Last place in picks cessler,

672
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: but first place in imagery running through an open prairie land. Listen,

673
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: last year I won the can this year I lost.

674
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: I'd rather be first and last than just be wandering

675
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: between fourth and fifth place two years and right. I know,

676
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: I know that, Uh, Adrian Peterson is not quite this year,

677
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: but if he doesn't run for a hundred and fifty

678
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: yards in this game, I'll be shocked. Here's a stat

679
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: for you, also from the couch Gating Tips of the Week.

680
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: The Bears have allowed more hundred yard rushers than any

681
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: team in the league. They've allowed more this season than

682
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: the last two seasons combined. They've had more games where

683
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: they give up more than forty points. Then, I think

684
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: Lovey Smith's entire tenure something like that, which is bonkers.

685
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: And Adrian Peterson has been running harder than ever the

686
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: last three or four weeks. I think that's been his

687
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: best part of the season. He ran really well against

688
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I picked the Bears just because, uh, the

689
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: Viking stink, Yes exactly, That's my whole defense. But I

690
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: think you can make the case weirder things have happened.

691
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: Good luck Wesley and wherever you are. Yes, all right,

692
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: let's move on to the rest of the games. These

693
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: we're not games we deemed to be the game of

694
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: the week or hero picks, but they're still they exist. There.

695
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: There's something that's on the schedule. We were contractually obligated

696
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: to cover them, so we will. We're gonna give him

697
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: some respect. We will start with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

698
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 1: heading to Carolina to face the Panthers. Actually, this is

699
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: a sneaky good game, because very fun. The Bucks are

700
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 1: playing excellent right now. They they They've won three straight

701
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: the Panthers. We know all about what the Panthers are doing.

702
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: They are the a t L team of record. Um, Greg,

703
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: how do you see this playing? I know we all

704
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: took the Panthers, but tam Bay could certainly make a

705
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: game of this, right Yeah, I expected to be another

706
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: close game. The Panthers offense keeps other teams in games.

707
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: For all the credit that Cam Newton has rightfully deserved,

708
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: it's a very conservative offense. It's a run base offense

709
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: that never goes deep. The Bucks have been playing better lately,

710
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 1: and Mike glenn and every game you watch him he

711
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: makes another couple of plays on the movie, I don't know,

712
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: I feel I wrote he he feels like a like

713
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: a no hit her in the top of the fifth.

714
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: Right now, I almost don't want to talk about Mike

715
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: Glennon too much for fear of ruining him, because it's

716
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: been almost too good to believe. Yeah, he's I think

717
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: he's on a ten touchdown one interception streak over the

718
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: last how many games you know that You look at

719
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,919
Speaker 1: Shianno who not unlike Ron Rivera, who will face this week.

720
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: A month and a half ago, Siano looked like dead meat.

721
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: The guy was gonna be back coaching Rutgers or some

722
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: other team a year from now. But if you find

723
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback, which they might have done, everything changes, doesn't

724
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 1: it from the coaching perspective. Suddenly there Siano's plan and

725
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: blueprint starts to look edgy, It starts to look real,

726
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know this is this is sort

727
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: of a tricky game. This is interesting, alright. Moving on,

728
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars head to Cleveland to face Marks Browns.

729
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't really need to get into this too much

730
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: to tell you how far the Browns have fallen, both

731
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: West and myself of taking the Jaguars this week to

732
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: win the game. I ask you, Mark, and I know

733
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: you're rooting for the Browns as you should. Good luck

734
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: to you on that, But I will ask you one

735
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: Brown's topic. Brandon Weeden starting Sunday, Jason Campbell potentially back

736
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: next week. Have we seen the last of Brandon Weeden

737
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: starting an NFL football game after Sunday, assuming that we

738
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: don't have seven more injuries like they've had throughout the

739
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: year where he keeps popping back up. Yes, I think so,

740
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: And I think that's strangely enough the career arc for

741
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: Brandon Weeden. I was like, who, who do do I

742
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: look at and say, yes, this will be him. It's

743
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 1: basically Derrick Anderson just couch him behind some legitimate starter

744
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: that doesn't get injured and will occasionally catch a glimpse

745
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: of Weeden on a sideline from a southern city or

746
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: somewhere out west. He could beat at Jimmy Clawson for

747
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: a job much like Clawson was the name of because

748
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: at least Anderson had that one magical two thousand seven season,

749
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: uh magical and relative terms to the Browns franchise, but

750
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: Clawson didn't even postseason. Um. You know, Clawson was a

751
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: guy that came at highly uh, you know, came up

752
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 1: was the first round pick, second round pick. He came

753
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 1: out of the draft fairly high place in the draft,

754
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: created as a rookie, not though he was weeding, was

755
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: better than Clausen, but was basically an afterthought in the

756
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: NFL by the time he was off his first team.

757
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: I think I could see weed in uh coming to

758
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: camp with a different team next year and then being

759
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: cut at the end of preseason. I think that's where

760
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: we're at. I see him more career arc as Kellen Clements.

761
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: You won't hear from him for about five or six years,

762
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: and then he'll pop up. He'll he'll be getting like

763
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: a RP checks and he'll start some games in like

764
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: sixty and you're like, what, Brandon Weeden still I think

765
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: he's you look at you look at the list of

766
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: free agent quarterbacks out there right now, and it's abysmal,

767
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 1: and so yes, he will get picked up by someone.

768
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: Dance Dance probably correct. He's gonna get a chance in

769
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: a preseason game next year, and if he know those dives,

770
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: he could be working at CBS next September. Who knows

771
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: thinks by the way, ruined that draft pick? Win this game? Um,

772
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: next game up, The New England Patriots travel to Houston

773
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: to face Texans team that has literally no memory what

774
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: it's like to win a game. They've lost nine straight.

775
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: New England one of the great blessed franchise in the

776
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: history of the NFL. Greg uh seemingly a cake schedule

777
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: every time I look up the Texans. He just played

778
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: the Panthers and the Broncos considerably. Uh, Greg, this is

779
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: not going to be a close game, right They have

780
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: owned the Texans in recent years in the playoffs and

781
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: anytime they've played him. This is a good test, though,

782
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: for the Patriots offense, which I think is the key

783
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: thing to look at for them right now. Are they

784
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: a dominant offense? And this is still a tough test

785
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: for them because I'm just kind of looking to see

786
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: if Brady Vereen grant game adult, whether they keep that

787
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: run going where they look like a top five offense.

788
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: I'm looking right past the Texans. I want to see

789
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: how the use the running backs this week after what

790
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: happened with Ridley and the fumbling and just how is you.

791
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: I don't think you can pull Ridley out of the mix.

792
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: It's your best running back. He's got fumbling issues, but

793
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: this team needs everyone and does he get a big

794
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: helping this weekend? And I want to see j I

795
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: want to just watch a nice full game at j

796
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: G WAT. I think he's a defensive Player of the Year.

797
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: It'll be a tough one for voters to give it

798
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: to a guy on such a bad team, but I

799
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: think he's the easy choice. I hope he gets I

800
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: don't think his play has changed, but that I mean,

801
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 1: these awards things are about. It's a tough sell sometimes.

802
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: Cortez Kennedy wanted on a one and fifteen team every

803
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: once in a while. What happened, Well, I guess just

804
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: to play Devil's advocate because I kind of agree with

805
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: you on that that Watt deserves it. But at the

806
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 1: same time, if they end up going two and fourteen

807
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: or three and thirteen, didn't he This is not his

808
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: fault that they're losing, but that means he didn't make

809
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 1: enough or even one game impact play that swung a

810
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: game and got them and the winning column that don't

811
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: you have to have a truly dominant season where you're

812
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: changing games and winning game like willing a team to Vick.

813
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: I think that's football. I think it's just hard for

814
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,760
Speaker 1: one person on defense to make that any non quarterback

815
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: to to make that big of a difference. I think

816
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: he's had as good a season as any defensive player

817
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: has in the last five years, you know, along with

818
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: him last year. The Patriots close at Texans home to Browns,

819
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: at Dolphins at Ravens home to Bills. Pretty nice. It's

820
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 1: not bad, it's pretty nice. They are They are in

821
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: play for the one seed, I think for sure. Alright,

822
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: Moving on the Miami Dolphins and New York Jets. I

823
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: don't know what to what to take out of this

824
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: game because you have a Dolphins team that I wouldn't

825
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: trust even a little on the road. I think the

826
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: Jets have a huge advantage um in the trenches, which

827
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: could swing this game. But then the Jets also have

828
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: Geno Smith, who's starting again. I think this is a

829
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: coin flip game. I took the Jets. Where did you

830
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: guys fall on this? Patrick? And I took the Dolphins? Uh,

831
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: Mark and Chris, We're with you. On the Jets, I

832
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: was a little week. I was a little surprised that

833
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: I thought Dan might even get a hero pick on

834
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: the Jets. I guess I've given up on the Jets,

835
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: and you guys have not. Well. Listen, I don't love

836
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 1: the Dolphins on the road either, But the Jets. Look

837
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: at They've scored less than ten points in three of

838
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: the last six games. They don't even try to throw

839
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: the ball. But you know, here's the problem they were

840
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: And I thought that Geno Smith, I feel like his

841
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: confidence is cracks because early in the year one of

842
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 1: the things I liked about him was that they were

843
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: letting him and encouraging him to wing the ball downfield,

844
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: and he was having some success at that, and then

845
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 1: you see what they did against the Saints. I want

846
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: to go back to that game because that, to me

847
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: looked like the blueprint for how New York could get

848
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, and we haven't seen anything approaching that since.

849
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: If this game was in Miami, I would take the Dolphins.

850
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: But the Jets are legitimately a very good home team

851
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: this year, which has not been historically the case with

852
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: the Jets. Of the metal ends are four and one

853
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: this year at home, and I think that's the difference here.

854
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: You said they could win in the trenches, and that's

855
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 1: absolutely true. When their defense on the field, they could

856
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,760
Speaker 1: just destroy this Dolphins offensive line. But you've flipping around

857
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: and the reverse could happen when Miami's on defense. Gino

858
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: Smiths taken a lot of the heat, but their offensive

859
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: line has been terrible three straight games with under ten completions,

860
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of that's because of the past protection. Alright,

861
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: moving on, the Cincinnati Bengals head to San Diego to

862
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: face the Chargers. Um, this is a game the Chargers

863
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: absolutely need their five and six. Their playoff hopes are

864
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 1: in serious danger if they can't hold off the Bengals.

865
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: And I know in this room anyway, and greg Or Mark,

866
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: I'll throw it to you to start. We are not

867
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: Bengals believers. Will they take care of business here and

868
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: put the Chargers out to passion? Well, when we talked

869
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: about the a f C six seed hopefuls, I went

870
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: with San Diego despite a really rugged schedule. I think

871
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: this game sets up well for San Diego. Uh Chargers. Interesting,

872
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: they can they can score points on anyone or anything,

873
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: and I and I see this game being a shootout.

874
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: In the sense that Andy Dalton is gonna be on

875
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: his heels to score points, and I don't love the

876
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: angles in that situation. That's why I picked the Bengals, Patrick,

877
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,919
Speaker 1: and I took them. My theory with the Bengals now

878
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: is they can never be at a good defense and

879
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: just because of Dalton and I don't think they're good

880
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: in those games. But the Chargers arguably have the worst

881
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. They have no pass rush. Manteo

882
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: is a total embarrassment. It's a it's amazing that it's

883
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: amazing he doesn't get more flat because he's involved in

884
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 1: so many big plays that are being given up. And

885
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: I think this is the rare game where it's like, Okay,

886
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: Dalton and them can actually score some points and they

887
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: could win. Well, they are the Chargers. No team is

888
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: giving up a higher passer rating to opposing quarterbacks. One

889
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: is there the second highest? I mean, so yeah, I

890
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: guess it's a spot for Dalton to they just give

891
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: up thirty eight to Alex Smith. Now, I hear you,

892
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: I hear you. I just I you know, I just

893
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: want to see something more from the Bengals, And maybe

894
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm not being fair to be honest. I mean, look

895
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: at the honestly, you look at Cincinnati the tenth game

896
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: we're talking about here. They deserve a little bit more respect,

897
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: I guess for what they've done this season. But something's missing.

898
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: It's a great matchup Goes defense versus Rivers and this

899
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: Chargers offense, which I just talked about how much I

900
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: love watching. I mean, it's about as good a defense

901
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: offense mention up as we have this weekend. Did you

902
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: guys hear what happened to Matt Teo last earlier this

903
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: year before the draft? Crazy like fake girlfriend's scandal. I'll

904
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: fill you in on it after the podcast. Send me

905
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,520
Speaker 1: a link or something. I don't know if the media

906
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: covered it, but fake girlfriend. It's crazy story. I'll tell

907
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: you guys later. Alright, moving on, Oh, this game stinks?

908
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: All right? The Atlanta Falcons head to Orchard Park to

909
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 1: play the Bills. M What is interesting about this game?

910
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 1: Let's see West will be covering this. We all picked

911
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: the Bills. There's something which is amazing to imagine that

912
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: that the Falcons have fallen that far. Greg, What are

913
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 1: we going to take out of this game? What are

914
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 1: we looking for as we watch this game, Matt Ryan said,

915
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 1: the Bills defense, when you look at him on film,

916
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: has among the best collection of talent in the league.

917
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: And I can't really disagree. And that's why I'm not

918
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: told the Bills are the only team that we work

919
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: that I'm just a wee bit worried about because of

920
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:05,919
Speaker 1: their schedule mostly and it and it starts this week.

921
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 1: I think with an easy win, they're killing quarterbacks. They've

922
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: got more sacks than any other team in the league.

923
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: In Atlanta's got a terrible offensive line, you know, like

924
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, his numbers aren't that off from last year,

925
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: and the Falcons offense still moves the ball. But I

926
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: just think Buffalo, this is a game they're gonna win.

927
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: They're gonna be five and seven, And you're right, their

928
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: schedule is the easiest to me among all teams. I think.

929
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 1: I know they're not tanking, but man it, it almost

930
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: seems like they're tanking like it's gonna work out perfect

931
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get you. Davian Clowney. That I mean,

932
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: is there a better Could there be a more perfect

933
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 1: fit for what the Falcons need than Clowney? I don't

934
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: they have a Washington Redskins game at home in Atlanta

935
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: in week fifteen. Otherwise, I don't think this is the

936
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: next easiest game they have. I don't think they're gonna

937
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 1: win another game. Our final game on the schedule, the St.

938
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: Louis Rams will travel to San Francisco to face the Niners.

939
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: Uh the Rams of the team that I'm a little

940
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: nervous about in terms of our our four committee getting

941
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: back into it. Obviously that becomes a moot point if

942
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: they don't uh pull off an upset here. Mark is

943
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: there away in which you see the Niners faltering at

944
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: home against a resurgent Ramstad Sure there is, Dan because

945
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, the forty Niners took care of business against St.

946
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 1: Louis pretty easily earlier this year. But I don't think

947
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 1: that's the Rams team that they're facing right now. Uh. St.

948
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: Louis's defense is it's come together. I think that they've

949
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: they played Seattle tough, they kicked some serious but last

950
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and Niners, you know, look they are.

951
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 1: They are pressed to win each week. It is the

952
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: the Caroline. If the Arizona Cardinals keep up with him,

953
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: your boy in this game, your pleasant surprise of two

954
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen, Robert Quinn. Yeah, I don't think. I mean,

955
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,760
Speaker 1: I don't think they didn't come out of the blue.

956
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 1: I think people knew he had that potential, and he's

957
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: just really, really week after week he's graded well. He's

958
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 1: been an excellent I'm overdue to do one of those

959
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: NFL Honors awards. Watching, I think Quinn might be number

960
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 1: two behind what in my own personal Defensive Player of

961
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: the Year rankings, he's got to be right there. Do

962
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: we have any great defensive players on good teams that

963
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: it is a problem. It's a bit of a problem,

964
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: But I think you just go with the best player.

965
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: That's my personal voting philosophy. Make an impact in this game,

966
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like they're they've said that

967
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: they're going to ease them back in. That has like

968
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: fifteen snaps written all over it. He's coming back from

969
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,320
Speaker 1: a torn achilles. Everyone expects him to solve their season.

970
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll see Crabtree as Crabtree the rest

971
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: of the year, But the idea that he's even on

972
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: the field replacing one of the other non household names

973
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 1: they had in there, I mean, it's it's up it's

974
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: an upgrade, alright. That is the games. We will be

975
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: back on Sunday, as we always will, and as well

976
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley from at least reportedly reportedly, we'll be back Mark.

977
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: We'll get him at the airport, uh and bring him

978
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: into the studio. Hey Rich will be there as always.

979
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrack will be calling in from Chicago. What we're

980
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: going to have the whole gang, Kevin patra I might

981
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: even bring back that bit where I say that he's

982
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: at a location with a Chicago celebrity. There's a buzz

983
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: about that. Uh. So Sunday will be an exciting show.

984
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: We will be there, all of us, a room full

985
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: of heroes truly. Until then, this is Dan Hanson signing

986
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: off for the Sizzler, the Boss, k Rich behind the

987
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: glass and lie all the intern until Sunday