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Speaker 1: Park it right here, everybody, it's time for the tailgate.

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Speaker 1: It's me Joey P joe P Zapeta, and I'm here

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Speaker 1: with my two best friends, Andrew Ericson, mister Big Pot Energy,

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Speaker 1: and Deebro Derek Brown, the King of Ros. But here's

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Speaker 1: the problem. I'm in a toxic relationship with these two yahoos.

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Speaker 1: You know why because somehow on the last show in

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Speaker 1: And I will continue to defend the Colts and their

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Speaker 1: then Deebro also was like, hey, what about these four

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Speaker 1: mediocre games? I'm like, what you mean, the ones against

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Speaker 2: Throw in the Falcons in there, and the fact that

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Speaker 4: I got one question for you regarding that stat They

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Speaker 4: It's a great stat but is it descriptive or predictive?

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Speaker 4: Thirty one points per game? What is that gonna tell

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Speaker 4: you about twenty twenty six? Just answer that question, please, John.

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Speaker 1: I like to have an actual reality instead of virtual reality.

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Speaker 1: It's descriptive, and I'll tell you this much. Now, he's

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Speaker 1: a descriptive. You could take your predictions and turn him

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Speaker 2: I love how you just you describe all of this,

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Speaker 2: But basically, this is a trap of your own making.

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Speaker 2: Nobody forced you to cape up for Daniel Jones. Nobody

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Speaker 2: forced you to cape up for Eli Manning. You put baby,

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Speaker 2: Nobody did all this, and Baby, your true colors came out.

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Speaker 2: It's not our fault, is it, Irson?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just ready for him to pull the camps.

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Speaker 4: Scataboo Jear's out of his closet.

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Speaker 2: No, Yeah, he's got, he's got, he's got a one

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Speaker 2: he's wearing underneath that hoodie.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, Toma Campskataboo. We gotta tellme one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite things. All Right, we're gonna go ahead this time.

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Speaker 1: This is part two of our series of the power Ranks.

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Speaker 1: This time we're doing NFC because I can't stand to

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Speaker 1: talk about Daniel Jones anymore. So NFC Power Rankings that

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Speaker 1: belong to me. That once again, a very brave Joe

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Speaker 1: Pisap is gonna throw out there, brave to these two hounds,

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Speaker 1: like two like raw meat, just stakes flying out there

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Speaker 1: and they're just gonna devour it and see what happens here.

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Speaker 1: So make sure you subscribe to the tailgate because this

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Speaker 1: is what we do here. We talked football. There's no rules.

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Speaker 1: It's just friends hanging out talking ball as intelligently as

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Speaker 1: So let's start at the bottom, which is always a

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Speaker 1: sixteen team, the worst team in the NFC, and it

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Speaker 1: is the Arizona Cardinals. Now the Arizona Cardinals at a

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Speaker 1: very weird offseason. But what else is new? Another year,

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Speaker 4: Yes, because they are the worst team in the NFC.

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Speaker 4: Look at the odds twenty thousand plus twenty thousand to

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Speaker 4: win the NFC this year. Arizona Cardinals. They have the

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Speaker 4: I think that they're just so undermanned. And Jacoby Brissett

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Speaker 1: He's a good dude. Good. I'm happy for Jacoby Brissette.

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Speaker 1: Jacoby Weris said, this is the time, it's now or never.

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Speaker 4: Are also very stinky.

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Speaker 3: But this one.

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Speaker 1: Feels worse to me because I look at a team

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Speaker 1: But you have a situation where it doesn't feel like

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Speaker 4: It's weird that the Falcons, to your point about all

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Speaker 4: another team that when we're looking at who's taking a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it always sucks to lose your first round pick

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Speaker 1: a tough one. That's a tough pill to swallow. It.

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Speaker 1: Dee Brau, you know you kind of took your shots

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Speaker 2: But dude, I think the further and further we get

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think we can.

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Speaker 2: The longer that we get, like the longer runway we get,

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Speaker 3: Get of the Kevin Stefanski.

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Speaker 2: Entire God, what he brings to an organization like drafting

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Speaker 3: But no, I digress.

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Speaker 4: I got to his screen. Guy. He's got a guy now, right.

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Speaker 1: B Jehn Robinson says, I gonna say, I was gonna say,

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Speaker 4: To say so much makes so much sense.

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Speaker 1: All Right, here's where we start to go. I think

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Speaker 1: lose captains on either side who have been there for

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Speaker 1: plus of these guys that stuff you don't replace overnight,

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Speaker 1: I know it's going to be controversial, but I think

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty good defense of it. De bro, Why

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Speaker 3: I don't think you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: I think when you look at the NFC, the total

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Speaker 2: right now, I feel like everybody about from team six

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Speaker 2: you can. I agree it really it's tough, man, Like

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Speaker 2: I have the Buccaneers higher, I have them at ten.

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Speaker 3: But I don't disagree with a lot of what you said.

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Speaker 2: The only thing I'll give for context about the Buccaneers

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Speaker 2: I think their offensive line is really really freaking good

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Speaker 2: when healthy. I think the defense can play better. I

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Speaker 2: think what you talked about with leadership, I think adding

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Speaker 2: somebody like Alex Angeloni is going to help a ton

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Speaker 2: in that as well as addressing edge, they might finally

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Speaker 2: have a competent pass rusher that can rush the passer.

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Speaker 3: Boys.

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Speaker 2: If Ruben Bain Junior can be that guy, they already

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Speaker 1: His locker with his tiny arms too, He's got.

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Speaker 3: God, dude, he's good.

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Speaker 4: Is going to be good. He's he's gonna be very good.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna be very very good.

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Speaker 1: You sure you can do the combination. It's hard.

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Speaker 2: The t Rex might not have big arms, but the

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Speaker 2: t Rex is still ferocious and mighty.

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Speaker 1: That's all same.

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Speaker 4: Every quarterback he's going to tell them how long his

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you should.

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Speaker 1: Do the teeth measure. That's what you should do. Every

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Speaker 1: time he sacks. Somebody should go out there and pull

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Speaker 1: the measure. Wonderful, let's go. I think they have a

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Speaker 2: Like I see your concerns about the locker room and

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Speaker 2: I think the Bucks could go screaming up. Like again,

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Speaker 2: I have them tense at So it's a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Look Andrew, this has been I just feel like we're

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Speaker 1: Here where we're we can't live off the past anymore,

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Speaker 1: understand why because Dee, they were said, there's a lot

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Speaker 4: So I'm throating the needle between you two. So I

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Speaker 4: have them at twelve, so I'm right between. So we're

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Speaker 4: all kind of split on. You can see the upside

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Speaker 4: the downside case that you laid out an Iland somewhere

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Speaker 4: in the middle. Because I'm acknowledging both of the points

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Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't keep them. So how is that

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Speaker 4: They drafted at BUKA to be no, you're gonna be

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Speaker 4: obviously that's a projection, massive shoes to fill when it

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Speaker 4: getting Ruben bang where they got it, drafting Ted Hurst,

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Speaker 4: So I think personnel wise, if they're healthier on offense,

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Speaker 4: I can see them definitely being top fifteen, top ten

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Speaker 4: last year at Buka looks like the guy the first

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Speaker 4: half the season. But yes, there are a lot of others,

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Speaker 4: which is why you fall into this. Okay, I'm kind

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Speaker 2: Can we also talk about Baker Mayfield has grown into

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Speaker 2: like after entering the NFL is like popping his mouth

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Speaker 2: all veterans didn't dislike him in Cleveland and stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: He's grown into a.

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Speaker 1: Very good leader as well as he's also like hasn't

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Speaker 1: had to bear the brunt of all of it. Now

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that, Like I just garbage.

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Speaker 1: I like that six part docuseries on the Fricking Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: which I recommend to everybody. It's very good. Raise the Flags,

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Speaker 1: it's excellent. But when you start to hear the way

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Speaker 1: oh no, Like this is kind of like a whole

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Speaker 4: One last thing on Mayfield is when he's an underdog.

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Speaker 4: I want to bet on Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: Like we talked about this all the time going into

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Speaker 1: You're right then that is one. Right now, I think

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Speaker 4: Right and you don't if that changes though, if it's

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Speaker 4: becomes well, Baker Mayfield is in a contract year. Why

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Speaker 4: have they extended him yet? Well, I mean, if there's

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Speaker 1: You want to be Marshmallow's next to it. You don't

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Speaker 1: know many teams to talk about. Well, don't think that.

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Speaker 2: Hold hold up, you don't think that there's a fire

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Speaker 2: under Baker Mayfield considering how pure is their last season

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Speaker 1: It's the fact that it's a wildfire and it's hard

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Speaker 3: But it burns bright.

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Speaker 1: Joe, my god, that was That was a beautiful metaphor

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Speaker 1: I just dropped there. That makes up for the other

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Speaker 1: one that was pretty lazy once, to be honest. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's let's get to number thirteen on my list of

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Speaker 1: power rankings of the NFC. It's Derek Brown's New Orleans Saints. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's go. Okay. I know this sounds low, but I'm actually, like,

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Speaker 1: But I also don't want to put the car before

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Speaker 1: team because I can see them cracking the top ten

433
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Speaker 1: even like I think that is in the range of outcomes,

434
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Speaker 1: as Derek Brown likes to say. But I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do that yet because I still think that when

436
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Speaker 1: you look around the NFC, there's still some teams I

437
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Speaker 1: think structurally and experience wise that are just ahead of them.

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Speaker 1: But I am putting them ahead of the Buccaneers, which

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Speaker 1: I think is a statement. Andrew Rickson, what do you

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Speaker 1: think of my statement?

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Speaker 4: I also have them Buccaneers, but I also have them

442
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Speaker 4: inside my top ten. I have them at number nine

443
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Speaker 4: in the Saints at number nine Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 1: That is, let's go, because the New Orleans Saints that

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Speaker 1: play in the NFL, those are all, yes, the ones

446
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Speaker 1: that play in the NFL that are going to continue

447
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Speaker 1: the streak of teams going from worse to first in

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Speaker 1: their division.

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Speaker 4: I think at the Saints are on the top of

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Speaker 4: that list. When you look at the teams that could

451
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Speaker 4: potentially make that type of leap. I look at their schedule,

452
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Speaker 4: just who the opponents they're playing. And Warren Sharp does

453
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Speaker 4: this every single year where he takes the forecast and

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Speaker 4: win totals. Again, we don't know the order of when

455
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Speaker 4: they'll play these teams that we know which teams are

456
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Speaker 4: going to play. They have the second easiest schedule in

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Speaker 4: the NFL. I love that for New Orleans. I think

458
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Speaker 4: that when you look at teams that take a massive

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Speaker 4: leap in terms of going from worse to first, the

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Speaker 4: division of the common like things with that is second

461
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Speaker 4: year quarterbacks. Look at the two games that did it

462
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Speaker 4: last year Chicago Bears second year quarterback check, Patriots second

463
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Speaker 4: year quarterback. Check.

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Speaker 1: Where's the first?

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Speaker 4: So they're just checking off a lot of box.

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Speaker 1: I think their defense I'm gonna check later.

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Speaker 4: By the way, that's fine, But I would rather come back.

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Speaker 1: Got the same box different teams.

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Speaker 4: I would rather do that check that boss in the

470
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Speaker 4: NFC South than the NFC East because I think that

471
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Speaker 4: this division is much much weaker the Saints, I thought

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Speaker 4: in the draft, I felt like their roster is in

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Speaker 4: a good spot that they could take kind of a

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Speaker 4: luxury pick at number eight. Getting Jordan Tyson I thought

475
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Speaker 4: was a great addition to Tyler Shuck for him to

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Speaker 4: develop and tell him Moore's offense. I mean, when you

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Speaker 4: look at the Buccaneers and Panthers, who are the teams

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Speaker 4: that were atop this division last year? Actually tied with Atlanta.

479
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Speaker 4: I mean they kind of spiraled down the stretch. The

480
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Speaker 4: Panthers made the playoffs, but they kind of backed into

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Speaker 4: it because the Buccaneers kep losing all these games. These

482
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Speaker 4: Saints won four of their last five games. Their defense

483
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Speaker 4: was one of the best against the run last year,

484
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Speaker 4: and they couldn't run the football at all on offense.

485
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Speaker 4: So you give Tyler show an effective run game, a

486
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Speaker 4: defense that showed out can be above average. I'd like

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Speaker 4: the Saints the top ten team, And I think that

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Speaker 4: when it's all said and done, if I'm making a

489
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Speaker 4: betut who's gonna win the NFC South, considering the odds

490
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Speaker 4: as well, I think I'm going with the Saints.

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Speaker 3: Already made that bet.

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Speaker 2: By the way, ericson, let's got plus four hundred baby.

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Speaker 1: Anything else to add on the Saints here, debro I.

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Speaker 2: So I'm a little bit more modern on the Saints,

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Speaker 2: and this is not because I'm not extremely high on

496
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Speaker 2: their outlook right now, Like I have them, I'll and

497
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Speaker 2: I'll just go ahead and give this have them in

498
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Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers at thirteenth and fourteenth. Both of these

499
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Speaker 2: teams could be massively, massively improved this year. And everything

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Speaker 2: that Ericson said about the Saints, you had a ton

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Speaker 2: more offensive firepower the defense, and they finally got maybe

502
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Speaker 2: a defensive tackle that actually can help them stop the

503
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Speaker 2: run in Krista Miller this year. So I think the

504
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Speaker 2: Saints could easily take the division. I think they could

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Speaker 2: take a big step forward. But I could also say

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Speaker 2: the same things for the Carolina Panthers, Like their entire

507
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 2: roster has been overhauled. They've added a ton of personnel

508
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Speaker 2: on the defensive side. I think the NFC South is, honestly,

509
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Speaker 2: outside of the Falcons, is going to be one hell

510
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Speaker 2: of a competitive division this year.

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Speaker 3: So I don't want to get too far into.

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Speaker 2: Scheduled analysis like Ericson was talking about with the Saints,

513
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Speaker 2: like yeah, like they got some gimmes. They got two

514
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Speaker 2: games against the Falcons. I think they're two matchups against

515
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Speaker 2: the Panthers and the Buccaneers are going to be really

516
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Speaker 2: hard fought battles, like I could see them splitting both

517
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Speaker 2: of those games or both those series. And then you

518
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Speaker 2: get into well, I mean, obviously they're going to beat

519
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Speaker 2: the Bengals because Joe thinks the Bengals are one of

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Speaker 2: the worst teams in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you've already discussed this.

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Speaker 1: So yes, so low in double digits.

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Speaker 3: No, you know we're not right double the Bengals. We

524
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Speaker 3: already know this.

525
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Speaker 4: Year money line against the Bengals in Week one.

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Speaker 1: We know I won. I wore a Bengals shirt yesterday

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Speaker 1: the football practice.

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Speaker 3: There is no proof there is you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean that that shirt's now almost vintage though,

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Speaker 1: because it's so long since they won the a f C. Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's vintage.

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Speaker 4: Hasn't been that long.

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Speaker 3: In that long.

534
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Speaker 2: But to wrap this up, I can make a case

535
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Speaker 2: for the Saints starting at eight right now.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I think the NFC it's you're splitting hairs about what

538
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Speaker 2: do you forecast this year versus what did you see

539
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Speaker 2: last year?

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Speaker 3: And I think pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Any team from like six or seven down could finish

542
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Speaker 2: anywhere from six or seven to fourteenth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, I think we all agree on that that

544
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Speaker 1: it's it's just very tight. One injury or one hot

545
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: streak or cold streak, you could see things falling apart

546
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: or rising up for sure, which brings me to my

547
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Speaker 1: number twelve team in the bottom five rankings. But the

548
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Speaker 1: best of the bottom is the Minnesota Vikings. I believe

549
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Speaker 1: in the coach. I still like the talent that's on

550
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Speaker 1: this roster. You have an all worldwide receiver in Justin Jefferson,

551
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Speaker 1: and I think Kyler Murray was something to prove and

552
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Speaker 1: play for. Basically his career on the line I think

553
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Speaker 1: is intriguing. And I'm old enough to remember Kyler Murray.

554
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: With DeAndre Hopkins having some pretty good seasons, and I

555
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,880
Speaker 1: think that Kevin O'Connor will get the out of him.

556
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: I know they lost some pieces on the defensive side,

557
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Speaker 1: but I have faith in the coordinator that he will

558
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Speaker 1: continue to take what he's got and use it the

559
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Speaker 1: proper way. Because Flores seems to like understand how to

560
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Speaker 1: do that, which is good. He's a little malleable as

561
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Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, which I like. So again, I don't

562
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Speaker 1: know if this is a stretch for some other people,

563
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,280
Speaker 1: but I feel like the Vikings the range of outcomes

564
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: for them is I could see them winning the division

565
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Speaker 1: or finishing last of this division. I think that's where

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Speaker 1: you're at with the Vikings. So I'm gonna basically say

567
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Speaker 1: like they're kind of on the outs, but it doesn't

568
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Speaker 1: mean they can't make the playoffs. And I think that

569
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Speaker 1: that's in there too, depending on if Kyler Murray can

570
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Speaker 1: stay healthy and if he can really get the Reins

571
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Speaker 1: back on his career, like it's a former number one

572
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: overall pick. Change of scenery is good, and I think

573
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Speaker 1: going from the Arizona Cardinals, arguably the worst franchise in

574
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Speaker 1: the NFL, to the Minnesota Vikings and a fan base

575
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Speaker 1: that's be so supportive. No, not the worst organization, that

576
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Speaker 1: worst team, the worst organization in football. It's got to

577
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Speaker 1: be the Arizona Cardinals. I mean, come on, let's talk

578
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: about it. I mean, I mean, all the Jets might

579
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 1: say hold my as possible, but you know, I just

580
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: think I look at the Minnesota Vikings that I think

581
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 1: there's opportunity here for them to get back on track.

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Speaker 1: I mean everything just deteriorated around them. Last year with

583
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Speaker 1: the quarterback play, Debro discussed I've got.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings at nine and again way.

585
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: Higher than me. Wow.

586
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean again, like we're splitting hairs, like I

587
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 2: give like we don't have a lot.

588
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: To split between the two of them.

589
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Speaker 4: We can't split any more. Harris on the show.

590
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Speaker 1: Andrew left. But with the Vikings, like, there's a lot

591
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Speaker 1: of talent on the offensive side, But could things fall apart?

592
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 3: Like could Aaron Jones get hurt again? Could?

593
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Speaker 1: Yes?

594
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: The situation could?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean it's rough though, man, Like I

596
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 2: mean the defensive line, what are they getting out of that?

597
00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,080
Speaker 2: They have a lot of rookies and a lot of

598
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 2: unproven are unproven players And Brian floor is like he

599
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 2: keeps saying like we all talk about like okay, can

600
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Speaker 2: you pull a rabbit out of the hat?

601
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Speaker 3: Like can he can he do that? Sure?

602
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 2: But you look at this as the roster and it's

603
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,959
Speaker 2: like Andrew van Geegle, can he stay healthy? The cornerback

604
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 2: room isn't amazing now. The defensive line is a big

605
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 2: question mark. Like I'm putting them high here on this list,

606
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: but again, I keep saying it like you can make

607
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Speaker 2: a case for any one of these teams to make

608
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 2: a downside case two, they're.

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Speaker 1: Just ericson what are your thoughts? Talk to me about

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Speaker 1: the Vikings.

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Speaker 4: So I actually have them the lowest of US three.

612
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Speaker 4: So I have them at thirteen, And that's because I'm

613
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Speaker 4: just trying to capture the downside too. With Kyler Murray,

614
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Speaker 4: what if he's just cooked at this point, like he's

615
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 4: coming off another season ending injury. It's a foot injury

616
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 4: took sausage, So that concerns me about even if he's

617
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Speaker 4: in a better offensive infrastructure around him, how effective is

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Speaker 4: he going to be? So that concerns me. And then

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Speaker 4: from the Flora's defensive side, the Vikings have obviously been

620
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Speaker 4: really effective on defense with Flora's calling the shots, but

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Speaker 4: last year when the defense was kind of keeping them

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Speaker 4: in games for the most part because the offense but

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Speaker 4: struggling so much. They also have the healthiest defense in

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Speaker 4: the NFC last year cording to adjusted games loss. So

625
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 4: if they're also losing more guys on the defensive side

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Speaker 4: of the ball, are they now playing in shootouts where okay,

627
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 4: we don't have with the quarterback player we're getting. Maybe

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Speaker 4: we're not matching some of these other top tier teams

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Speaker 4: in the NFC. So you're talking about number one overall picks.

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Speaker 4: Would I rather bet on Baker Mayfield or Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: I'll take Baker Mayfield Baker. So that's why I have

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Speaker 4: Buconeers ranked ahead of the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: up the list here a little bit because they still

651
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Speaker 1: have Jaden Daniels and I still believe in Jadan Daniels.

652
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: He was hurt last year. Healthy Jaden Daniels goes a

653
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: long way. I liked the draft that they had. I

654
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 1: also think offseason they made some really good moves. They

655
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: look they got Sonny Styles right in the draft. Leoshanal Is.

656
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: I love that guy. He's just a football player, right

657
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 1: He's coming over from the Chiefs. A guy just makes tackles.

658
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 1: He goes out there, he plays with intensity. I think

659
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: that's something this team lacked last year. Chason had a

660
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 1: great year for the Patriots. He's gonna be rushing this

661
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: year for the Washington Commanders. So to me, like they

662
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: went out there they realized they went in. I think

663
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Speaker 1: they they had that moment too where they figured out, look,

664
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Speaker 1: we did not do a good enough job getting enough

665
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: talent on this roster last year, and everything broke right

666
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,719
Speaker 1: for them. Jaane Daniels rookie season, I think they did

667
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: a much better job this year, and I think the

668
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: Commanders will be more competitive this season. Andrew Rickson, what

669
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the Commanders? You got them higher

670
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: or lower than where I have them right now in eleven.

671
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: I have them one spot higher at ten. But I

672
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Speaker 4: think that you alluded to. Yes, they have made a

673
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 4: lot of good additions, but is it still enough additions

674
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Speaker 4: where okay, they're actually going to be contenders again? And

675
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 4: it's not just Jade Daniels son running right. So I

676
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 4: agree with you in terms of yes, getting Sunny Styles

677
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 4: is going to help the defense because the defense couldn't

678
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 4: do anything last year. But I look at their secondary

679
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 4: specific to like the cornerback position, and that's kind of

680
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 4: where Sony Style is going to stop teams from throwing

681
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: all over the Washington Commanders Like, I'm not so sure

682
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 4: about that. So even if the pass rush is a

683
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 4: little bit better, I still don't know. And then with

684
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Speaker 4: Jayde Daniels offensively, I like Antonio Williams as a rookie

685
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: wide receiver. I like chikakon Quo as a tight end,

686
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 4: but these guys aren't like established assets where oh Jane

687
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 4: Janiels is going to cook with Terry mclorrnan also coming

688
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 4: off a season where he's suffered a lot of injury

689
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 4: and missed a lot of time, so he's the number one.

690
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 4: He's also not really young, he's an older player. So

691
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: how much offensive production are they putting too much on Janiels?

692
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 4: You have to do it all, you have to be

693
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: superman because they got you that last year and he

694
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 4: got banged up as well. So that's why I have

695
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: them at ten. I'm trying to capture that with Jayden Daniels.

696
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: You always have top ten upside with this type of team,

697
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 4: and they did make additions I liked on defense, but

698
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: maybe it's still not enough to really put them over

699
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 4: the top.

700
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Speaker 1: To me deepro the other deficit of this team is

701
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Speaker 1: still the running back room. It's like Rashaud White, it's

702
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: JCM sure is Jerome Ford, k Tron Allen like, there's guys,

703
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: but it's again it's a big messy committee. If this

704
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Speaker 1: team had a true bellcal running back, like if you

705
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: had Derek Henry on this team. When I'm just throwing

706
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: it out there, I think I very differently of the

707
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders because all of a sudden, the old Tereremiah

708
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: Love a whole different dynamic on this offensive side, where

709
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: as a defense, I gotta worry about Jayden Daniels and

710
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: I gotta worry about that guy. Like that's a lot

711
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: to try to figure out. You got a spy in

712
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: the you know out there at the you know, the

713
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: middle tier of the defense. You're trying to figure out

714
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: how to stop one guy, but then the other guy's

715
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: gonna running over. It's a lot. So I think that's

716
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: still a problem of why I can't get into the

717
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Speaker 1: top ten with them.

718
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: Well, same and I've got them at twelve for a

719
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: lot of the high points of this this roster. I

720
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 2: mean they're they're running back room as an island misfit

721
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: toys their wide receiver room. It's the same thing outside

722
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: of Terry McLaurin. I mean, like Luke McCaffrey, we haven't

723
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 2: seen anything out of outside of like, you know, consistency

724
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: from him. And then it's Treylon Burk's Diami Brown, Javen

725
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: Lane Van Jefferson, Wolf Wolf Wolf Wolf.

726
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Speaker 1: It's horrible.

727
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: The offensive line has has question marks. The I mean

728
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: even with the defense, Like, yeah, the defensive line they

729
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: got reinforcement's linebacker room and stuff like that, but you

730
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: could talk about there's holes in the secondary and what

731
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: are they going to get out of them? And their

732
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: safeties aren't like game changers, so secondary.

733
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Speaker 3: Is a question.

734
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Speaker 2: Offensive line is is okay but kind of shaky. Their

735
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: running back room it's littered with a lot of questions,

736
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Speaker 2: and mid and they could say the same thing for

737
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 2: the wide receiver room. Even if we're trying to project

738
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 2: Brandon Ayuk there right now, still like what are you

739
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 2: getting out of him at this point in his career?

740
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Speaker 3: So I can't get any higher than twelve.

741
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Carolina Panther is coming in at number ten because I

742
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: want to give him credit for how well they played

743
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: in the playoffs against the Rams, how well they played

744
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: in the regular season against the Rams, and they were punchy, right.

745
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Bryce Young still misses things in his game. I think

746
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: we can all understand that. But I struggle to rank

747
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: them higher than this because the equantum injury to me,

748
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: I think is massive and I don't think that's discussed enough,

749
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: and I look at what they have right now. Ted

750
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: McMillan was terrific. Jalen Koker, I think is a nice position.

751
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm not a Lagette guy. I don't see that. I

752
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: think defensively, again, things broke well for them last year,

753
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: but I don't know if we can get it going

754
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: two years in a row. It does feel like this

755
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: is the kind of division that will turn over. And

756
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: it could be the Saints, it could be the Bucks,

757
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: it could be somebody else. But right now, I'm going

758
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: to give the Panthers the benefit of the doubt. I

759
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm that's too much that I'm giving them. Derek,

760
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: what do you think.

761
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: I've got them at fourteenth? But if you were to

762
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 3: ask me, it's really low.

763
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: That's almost worse than the league.

764
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean somebody, you gotta have picked someone at

765
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 4: the bottom of the NSC South. It's not the same same.

766
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 2: It's like it's legit where we're trying to dice through

767
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: like who goes where, And there's so many of these

768
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: teams where there's a wide range of what their twenty

769
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: twenty six could look like. And for everything good that

770
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: the Panthers did, and I'm actually higher on their offensive line,

771
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: their tackle situation because I look at it as a

772
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: kwand who is probably not going to play. We're not

773
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: even going to see him like a healthy version of him. No,

774
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: possibly ever again. But Joe, what they did was they

775
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: sign Rashid Walker to a one year deal and they

776
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: drafted Monroe Freeling, so they have tackle outs. Not worried

777
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: about that spot. It comes back to me for how

778
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: high can the Panthers go. This has nothing to do

779
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 2: with like what I think about their offensive line or

780
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: their defense. To be honest, their defense looks awesome right now,

781
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: like on paper, I think they're gonna be the like

782
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: arguably the most improved defense in the NFL this year.

783
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: This all comes back to the quarterback position for me

784
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: and Bryce Young.

785
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: I just don't have a lot of faith in him. Man, Like,

786
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: they won a lot of games last year, but that

787
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: was not okay. Bryce Young carried them to wins. It's

788
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: really like his play.

789
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: Is so volatile because of the fact that he cannot

790
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: see over the offensive line and he is such a

791
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 2: limiting quarterback.

792
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 3: So it's like Kyler Murray but worse.

793
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: So.

794
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: If I were to make a case of the NFC

795
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: version of the Tennessee Titans and the Cleveland Browns, those

796
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: two teams for me would be the Carolina Panthers in

797
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: New Orleans Saints. They could go screaming up the power

798
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 2: rankings once you know the lights come on and football

799
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 2: is being played, or they could be another year away.

800
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: I like Dave Canlis, I like the coach Erickson, but

801
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: at the same time, when I look at the roster,

802
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: I also think this is a team that if they

803
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: don't stay healthy, things will get real ugor real fast.

804
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: I don't love the depth on this team, and I

805
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: think that's another red flag to me about all the

806
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: negative outcomes potential for the Panthers.

807
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 4: So, as a long time Carolina Panthers fan, yeah, really,

808
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: it really pained me not to rank them higher because

809
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 4: and I didn't have them as the favorite to win

810
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: the division here, even though that's what they did last year.

811
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 4: So I have them at eleven, one spot lower than you, Joe,

812
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,760
Speaker 4: and eventually, I hate to say it, but splitting hairs

813
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 4: when I looked at them compared to the New Orleans Saints.

814
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 4: Saints have the second easiest schedule. Why because they came

815
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: in the last place in the division last year. The

816
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 4: Carolina Panthers, because they won the division last year, what

817
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 4: did they get the thirtieth ranked schedule? So they're paying

818
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 4: all the top teams in the NFC, whereas the Saints

819
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 4: get to play all the really bad teams in the

820
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 4: NFC along with facing their own division. And the other

821
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: thing with Carolina as well, is I kind of feel

822
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 4: like we have expectations finally with them, where okay, I

823
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 4: think Bryce Sung has least shown improvement, he's shown growth

824
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 4: of the last couple of seasons. We like Dave Canalis.

825
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: To Debro's point, we've put together some good pieces on defense,

826
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: now are we? Because every time I bet on the

827
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 4: character Carolina Panthers last year, when they were favored or

828
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 4: expected to do well, they absolutely craped the bed. And

829
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: that was really frustrating, I think really telling for the team.

830
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 4: It's like whenever, okay, now we have to rise see occasion,

831
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 4: and we do it. But when they're ten point underdog

832
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 4: against the Los Angeles Rams, oh yeah, we can go

833
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: out and play free because we're just expected to get

834
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 4: shell apped. So I think with expectations on them, I

835
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 4: think it makes a little bit tougher for them. Where

836
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 4: it's with the Saints, I think people are still a

837
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 4: little bit Hey, we'll see what we get with Tyler Shuck.

838
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: Kellen Moore was a good story in year one, but

839
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 4: I just see the path for New Orleans much easier

840
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: and ultimately why I ranked them over the Carolina Panthers.

841
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 4: So that's kind of how I and this I took.

842
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 4: I looked at this for a long time because I'm like,

843
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,280
Speaker 4: I've been the Panthers guy, like this is my second favorite.

844
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: God get Andrew ericson. I don't know what kind of

845
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: connections we got, but man, it's for this channel that

846
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: it gets so big that they say and today banging

847
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,760
Speaker 1: the drum starting us off there for the Carolina Panthers pregame, Andrew,

848
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 1: That's what I want to say. I want to live to

849
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: see that moment. Andrew.

850
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 2: Can we walk their schedule world fast and we just

851
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 2: play a role fast of like w or last Yes,

852
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: because it is rough, Eric, Yeah, just really quickly and

853
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: just okay, so just tell me guys with the winter

854
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: doing schedule.

855
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: Shows by the way, as I tease further shows, well,

856
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: we will be talking about that we in the bad

857
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: with the NFL schedule in the week ahead.

858
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: We're just talking opponents here, okay. Seattle Seahawks winner loss lost,

859
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos lost, Chicago Bears lost, Philadelphia Eagles.

860
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes the Eagles play down, don't but I

861
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: will say lost. I just want to say the Eagles

862
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: do that crap though, you and I both know that

863
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals w O.

864
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 2: Good lord, Okay, Ericson lost. So that's five losses right now.

865
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: Detroit Lions six, Pittsburgh Steelers win. Yep, I'm gonna give

866
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 2: them a all right, Packers, Yeah, but this is the football.

867
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: Well you have the Packers ran three games, I do,

868
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: but they're not. Yes, So in your RAI one of

869
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: these already the Panthers and we all go, how did

870
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: the Rams lose to the Panthers? And we all sit

871
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: here the next morning and go, how the hell did

872
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: this happened? It's the NFL.

873
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 4: But de losses with how he had seven of how

874
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: difficult it is on paper for them to overcome us

875
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 4: and reps the NFC. And also something to mention who

876
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 4: swept the Panthers last year? The Saints?

877
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: What's there out of uh? What's there at a conference

878
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: schedule this year? Who are they playing?

879
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 4: The AFC? What they playing?

880
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: The Browns, the Bengals, the North Yeah.

881
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 4: And then all the top teams from the n s C,

882
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 4: all the want and then talking about it.

883
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: If they split with the Buccaneers, they split with the Saints,

884
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: that's nine losses, not even trying hard to get to

885
00:38:59,239 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: nine losses.

886
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: So they're eight and.

887
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: Nine, all right, I mean I don't want to, but

888
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 2: I don't either, But that schedule is brutal.

889
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: Just Arison's point, all right, at number nine, second year quarterback,

890
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: a team that was worst that could potentially go to

891
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: first This is the one that I am betting to

892
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: do that. But I'm not ranking there yet because I'm

893
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: not stupid. I just want to, you know, I want

894
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: to stupid slow birth. I like the value on them.

895
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: I'll bet it to happen. But I'm not going to

896
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: power rank them there yet because some New York Football

897
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: Giants in the last twenty.

898
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: Years, we've only had.

899
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: This past year was the first time in twenty years

900
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: where a team won that division back to back seasons.

901
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,800
Speaker 1: Every year, these teams leapfrog each other. It's the Washington

902
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: Commanders of the Washington football team. One year it was

903
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: the Eagles, it's the Cowboys, it's the Giants. It's the Eagles,

904
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: it's the Cowboys, it's the Giant. This is what they

905
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: do and if Jackson Dart stays on the field, if

906
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 1: camp Scatabo stays in field, Isaiah likely does what he

907
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 1: is possible, you know, to do. If Malik Neighbors can

908
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: get healthy sooner or later. I like Malachai fields. I

909
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: like what they've done. And then they go out there

910
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: and they add Arvel Reese to the defense. Well, I

911
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: think is a is a game changing kind of player potentially.

912
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: Now I do not like a couple things in the

913
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: Giants right now. I do not like that Abdull Carter

914
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: looks like Russell Wilson where in number three it doesn't

915
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: look like he has seen a weight this offseason. I

916
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen this pictures of him mad, but.

917
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: I've not seen this.

918
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: I want you to look at right now, go right now.

919
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: I want the live reaction and you tell me is

920
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: it Russell Wilson or is it Abdul Carter because kid,

921
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: and I don't mean Russell Wilson now, I mean Russell Wallen.

922
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 3: We're not talking about met Gallery Megano.

923
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about like Russell Wilson was at the

924
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 1: Savannah Banana's game a couple of weeks ago, who looked

925
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: like he ate all the bananas. I'm not talking about

926
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson. I'm talking about Russell Wilson like when

927
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: he was back in the day playing for Seattle and

928
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 1: was in good shape. Okay, I have some concerns. I

929
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 1: see Abdua Carter right now, a picture from the twenty

930
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: first of April, Like, what are we talking about here?

931
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he looks like he I don't know

932
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: what you're looking at? What he does not look like

933
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: he has seen a weight Okay, he looks tiny. And

934
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: for a guy that's got all these negative things around him,

935
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: like this is a big like you got to get

936
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: right here.

937
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about it, he's like slim and trim, Okay,

938
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 3: slim and speed.

939
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: So so he could get knocked over all over the

940
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: place by giant offensive lineman. Again for a guy who

941
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: has questionable work ethic things. I do not like the

942
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: way he comes in into this first mini camp looking.

943
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 1: But you still have Brian Burns, you still have a

944
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: lot of talent on on this defensive side, and you've

945
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: got a head coach for the first time in a

946
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: long time that maybe you're kind of flushing things out.

947
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of potentially for the Giants. I

948
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: don't want to over rank them, but I'm saying that

949
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 1: I'm betting them to win this division because I see

950
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: the pathway for it and it's a good wager. But

951
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: in the power rankings, I don't want to put him

952
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 1: quite there yet. So Ericson, let's talk about the Giants.

953
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 4: So I am probably lowest on them, and I haven't

954
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 4: at fourteen.

955
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: Okay, I got him at eleven.

956
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, show, And it's not that I don't like the

957
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 4: potential and upside that you kind of outline, Joe, But

958
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: a lot of the stuff you were talking about was,

959
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 4: you know, Harbaugh, the defensive pieces that they've added. I

960
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 4: still think it was dextra Lawrence. He has a lot

961
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 4: of ifs, but that's what you do with some of

962
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 4: these teams that could take major leaps because I think, agreed,

963
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 4: they check off a lot of his boxes. With the

964
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 4: second year quarterback, you have a compted head coach. So

965
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 4: you see the parallels to the New England Patriots with

966
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: Drake May and Mike Vrabel. The one thing that's kind

967
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,800
Speaker 4: of holding me back though about this offense is so

968
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 4: we got Matt Naggie as the offensive coordinator. I really

969
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 4: don't like that because the last three years with him

970
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: and Casey, I know that I don't know exactly how

971
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 4: much influence, but the offense didn't necessarily like take off

972
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 4: of flying colors when he was there, and they didn't

973
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 4: really seem to miss him. They're like, we need to

974
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 4: get Eric the enemy back. Bye bye, Matt Naggy. You

975
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 4: look at what Matt Naggy did with the Chicago Bears.

976
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 4: One good year. The first season, it was great, he

977
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 4: won Offensive Coach of the Year, and then it all

978
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 4: kind of fell apart and was not really really good.

979
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 4: So outside of the top twenty and three of his

980
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 4: four years as the Bears head coach in terms of

981
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 4: offensive points and points were game for the Chiefs the

982
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 4: last season fifteenth, fifteenth and twenty first as the named

983
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator of the Chiefs. So that concerns me. I

984
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 4: don't know if I love that pairing between Jackson Dart

985
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 4: and Matt Maggie. And then I look at the more

986
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: of the coaching staff on the offensive side than Harvard

987
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 4: brought in his players. Brian Callahan, who I was not

988
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: nice to talking about the Tennessee Titans. He's the quarterback

989
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: and past game coordinator. I don't love that Greg Roman

990
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 4: is also on this staff as an offensives sistant. And

991
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 4: then he guesses, Guys, where did the Giants current offensive

992
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: line coach coach last year?

993
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: And he guesses, I gotta be somebody where the terrible

994
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: offensive line Bengals.

995
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: I don't know.

996
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 4: Final answer, Bengals, Joey, you got a guess? Uh, I

997
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: don't know.

998
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 1: I'll say, gosh, I don't. I have no idea. I

999
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: don't know.

1000
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 4: Cardinals, like where we're going Cleveland Browns.

1001
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown's okay.

1002
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 4: So that's what we're working with. And I think maybe,

1003
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: and to your point about you don't want to rank

1004
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 4: him this high this quickly, maybe this is a twenty

1005
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 4: twenty seven jump that we see the Giants where hey,

1006
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 4: you get back to not mediocrey. We play really competitive

1007
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 4: against our really tough division again, the NFC East. To

1008
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: your point, it's always overlapping. There's always a new team

1009
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 4: at the top, every there at the bottom. Right now,

1010
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 4: I don't think that they're so far behind. But harbought

1011
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,479
Speaker 4: draft and developed type of mindset. Maybe it's not twenty

1012
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,919
Speaker 4: twenty six, but maybe twenty twenty seven.

1013
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: All right, next up for me, number eight, Dallas Cowboys.

1014
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna put them ahead of the Giants in

1015
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: the Powell rankings. They did get some defensive pieces. When

1016
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback like Dak Prescott, who is very

1017
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: capable in my opinion, who still takes a lot of

1018
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: shots from the media and everybody else, and I get it,

1019
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys haven't won a lot of playoff games.

1020
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,240
Speaker 1: It's fair. But you've got Ceedee Lamb, You've got George Pickens.

1021
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: Ferguson's very capable of tight end. The defense was in

1022
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: shambles last year in terms of giving up all the

1023
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: ardis that they gave constantly. I mean, no lead was

1024
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: safe for the Dallas Cowboys last year, and I feel

1025
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 1: like they at least started to do a better job

1026
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: of that this offseason. So I'm gonna give them a

1027
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: little bit of credit. I do want to give him

1028
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: too much credit either, because they are the Cowboys and

1029
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: they always find ways to lose games. But de bro,

1030
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: I do feel like we are getting to a point

1031
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys where I feel like we're still just

1032
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: kind of sweeping around the middle. Like there they could

1033
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: be a playoff team. They could also be the thirteenth

1034
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: team overall and then the NFC.

1035
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: So where do you think I'm putting respect on their name?

1036
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:30,919
Speaker 2: I'm putting them at fifth all.

1037
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: Right, So you're a more you're on the more positive side. Okay,

1038
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: let's talk about it, because by this pleasantly, you know

1039
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 1: Caleb Downs goes a long way. Is that what we're thinking?

1040
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 2: Well, their offense, I think we all agree is one

1041
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: of the best in the NFC. That I don't think

1042
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: that's like really like an argument now, of course, No,

1043
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 2: their offense is one of the best in the NFC,

1044
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: and their defense is going to be massively, massively improved

1045
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: if they get anything out of Chavon Revel, Like if

1046
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 2: Doron Bland bounces back and he's the guy of yesteryear,

1047
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: Caleb Downs is probably they're talking about Kaylen Downs is

1048
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: going to play Nickel right now.

1049
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 3: So if he's there starting Nickel, we're looking at a

1050
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: Cooper Gene type of like impact in his love for him.

1051
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: By the way, yes, they decided to do.

1052
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: For their defense, and because they do have depth, like

1053
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 2: with with adding Caleb Downs, it's not like they don't

1054
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: still have Malik Hooker. It's not like they don't still

1055
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: have parts of pieces. Their defensive line has been totally overhauled.

1056
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm incredibly high on the on the Cowboys. I think

1057
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: they take the NCAS this year.

1058
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: Andrew Rickson, how about them Cowboys?

1059
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: I also have been at five because I'm just I'm

1060
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 4: just I'm just because.

1061
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: The high guy cow.

1062
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 4: It's May and we're just looking at this roster and

1063
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 4: it's always it's.

1064
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: Because this is the Cowboys.

1065
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 4: Every year though you look at the ross like, dude,

1066
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 4: this team is so good, like we know this in

1067
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 4: so many games, and then they always find ways to lose.

1068
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 4: So will they be at this rank all year long?

1069
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: No?

1070
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 4: But when they come out in Week one and everybody's

1071
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 4: healthy and the vibe are at all time high and

1072
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 4: they upset some team that's higher ranked in the power ranking,

1073
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 4: it's gonna be week two on all the talk shows,

1074
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 4: how about them Dallas Cowboys? And they gotta win the

1075
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 4: Super Bowl in twenty twenty six.

1076
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: I can already hear Steven A. Smith being just going

1077
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 3: off about it and me hitting mut on the team.

1078
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: But there's just no Cowboys, my friends. Did you see

1079
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: how good the Cowboys are? Did you watch Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1: yesterday row in the football around the block, George Pickens,

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00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: my man looking good for the Dallas Cowboy.

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Speaker 2: How do you manage to make Steven A sound kind

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00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: of like an Italian grandma at the same time because.

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00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: He's still New York thing. We still has a little

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00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: bit of New York in him. He worked at Philadelphia Way,

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00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: and he worked a lot in Philadelphia, which made him

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Speaker 1: run his mouth even more.

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Speaker 3: I hear it, I hear it anyway.

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Speaker 1: Me in college, stephen A was a big Philadelphia reporter.

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00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: He was on like local cable news all the time

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00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: and all this stuff, so that the Philadelphia Inquirer.

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Speaker 4: So if they if the Dallas Cowboys are the NFC

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Speaker 4: version of the Bengals, that's why I felt, Hey, I

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00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 4: have to put them inside my top five because I

1095
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 4: felt the same way. You get anything out of their

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00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 4: defense and their offense does exactly what it did last year,

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Speaker 4: then how is there not a top five team? And

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Speaker 4: I know they're going to find a way disappoint us

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Speaker 4: and not finish top five because this is at eight.

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Speaker 3: Because there's so much like the Bengals.

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00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 4: And the thing that's super scary too about the thing

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Speaker 4: that's scary about the Cowboys too is Dak Prescott also

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Speaker 4: has this really weird and bizarre yearly split where in

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00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:46,919
Speaker 4: even number of years his numbers fall off dramatically because

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00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 4: he usually gets hurt. So again I'm not saying that

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00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 4: this is predicted in any way, but when you look

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Speaker 4: at his game logs and the Dallas Cowboys every other year,

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Speaker 4: it's like really really good, really really bad, really good,

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00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 4: really really bad. And again not in any way, but

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Speaker 4: it's just something that I kind of always keep it

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00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 4: back in my mind, like, good, just go off the rails,

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Speaker 4: Dak Presshuck gets banged up, Yeah, and then you can

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Speaker 4: see Dallas and that's how they disappoint.

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Speaker 1: So just somebody keep in mind, well I have the

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Speaker 1: Bengals at nine just but it's the same thing. It's like, hey,

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00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: this roster looks really good on paper, and hey, every

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00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 1: single year they kick us in the nuts, and when

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00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: are we gonna start? And we should wear a cup

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Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty six season and maybe protection we just.

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Speaker 4: Need to be want to think about the Cowboys, we

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00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 4: just need one team.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burl the healthy I'd love that.

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Speaker 2: I love Joe Burrow, so that means we're gonna get

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Speaker 2: a Dallas Cowboys Bengals Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: That's what we're gonna get. Third Favorite, that's what we're

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Speaker 3: gonna get.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna watch that with Joe. Would be so fun.

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Speaker 2: We are We're gonna have to do a live watch

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Speaker 2: party with the Bengals versus the Cowboys.

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Speaker 3: This year in the Super Bowl, and it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: amuse me more, it's gonna be beautiful.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to number seven here, and it's

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Speaker 1: more because I just don't know what to do with

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00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: them at this stage. Guys, I think they're good, but

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00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: I don't think they're great, but I think that they're

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Speaker 1: better than a lot of other teams. Still, it's the

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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions at seven. Oh look, Petsig now coming in.

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Speaker 1: This is the third offensive coordinator now in three years. Right,

1139
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: So we just keep turning and burning that and we'll

1140
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: see what this one looks like.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 1: I do think you know you still got I'm on rag.

1143
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: Eric Goff is very capable all that stuff. But you know,

1144
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 1: I think when you when you watched him last year,

1145
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: especially in that Steelers game at the end of the year,

1146
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: remember that Steelers game in December two or it was

1147
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: just like, I'm just starting to get this feeling. And

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00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: I talked about it going into last year. I said,

1149
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: when you when you lose both coordinators in the season

1150
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: and you're not the team that won the Super Bowl,

1151
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: that's not good. You know, it's just a difficult slog.

1152
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: And the beginning of the year start off pretty well

1153
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: for the Detroit Lions, and then everything that I was

1154
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: worried about showed its ugly face in the second half.

1155
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Speaker 1: Injuries were definitely an issue. And this is where Andrew's

1156
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: going to tell me that, you know, they were the

1157
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: most wrong, and he's not so obviously the injury regression

1158
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: will go on their side again and I'll hear that.

1159
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 1: But until that, like, I still have this weird feeling

1160
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 1: where every time I watch Dan Campbell he does the

1161
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: same thing, which is he over coaches and he makes

1162
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: bad decisions in big spots that actually end up hindering

1163
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: this power ranking. I think the biggest deficit in some

1164
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: ways is in a lot of ways, their best asset,

1165
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: which is they've got a good head coach. He's a

1166
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: really good football guy. But my god, does the overcoach

1167
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: and then under coach when it matters the most, and

1168
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: every time they get into any pressureized situation, he finds

1169
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: a way to put them on the outside of it.

1170
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: And he's done it in the playoffs and now he's

1171
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: doing it in regular season games. And I just can't

1172
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: handle Dan Campbell anymore. So I'm putting the lines at

1173
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: seven and I'm waiting for them to either collapse or

1174
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: figure it out. But I think it's it's more arrowed

1175
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: down for me with the Lions and up Andrew. What

1176
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: do you think?

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00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 4: I also have them at seven, but it's a spot

1178
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 4: that I don't feel super confident in having them here

1179
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 4: because they're a team that does scare me because of

1180
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 4: things you outlined where well, what if this offense gets

1181
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,759
Speaker 4: back to it's forming mean I yet that offense last

1182
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 4: year was a disappointment, but it's still really yeah, Like

1183
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: that's the thing, Like you look at the final season numbers.

1184
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: I know it's still and I know that a lot

1185
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 4: of it was. You know, they beat up on some

1186
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 4: really bad teams. They had opportunity to score a lot

1187
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 4: of points, but still they were what I think they

1188
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 4: were fourth in points per game. So it was obviously

1189
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 4: a falloff from the year before when they were number

1190
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:27,800
Speaker 4: one in points per game, but there's still like a

1191
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: fringe top five offense, and I don't even know you

1192
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 4: can really apply fringe when you're talking about a team

1193
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 4: that finishes top five in scoring. Defense, I think is

1194
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: going to be healthier. So I think getting back to

1195
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: an established rushing game, how does this interier offensive line

1196
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 4: kind of shake out?

1197
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: Right?

1198
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 4: Because that was the biggest thing last year where they

1199
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 4: weren't as effective running the football, they were able to

1200
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 4: throw the ball effectively against opposing defenses. And the thing

1201
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 4: that probably scares me the most about not having them

1202
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 4: ranked high enough is I looked at the schedule. They

1203
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 4: have the easiest strength of schedule among every single team

1204
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 4: in the NFL. So I was staring at them and

1205
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 4: the team we're going to talk about I think soon

1206
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 4: as well, the Chicago Bears, And I wasn't confident that

1207
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 4: I should be ranking the Bears over the Lions. The

1208
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 4: Bears won the division last year, and I didn't feel

1209
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 4: really great about putting the Lions behind them because look

1210
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 4: to Dan Campbell's point the credit, I mean, this team

1211
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 4: has won a lot of games, and last year they

1212
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 4: lost both their coordinators. That's not the case this season

1213
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 4: necessarily like they've a little bit more experienced in that avenue.

1214
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 4: So yeah, the Lions, I'm not super confident where I

1215
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: have them, and I feel like I'm hedging putting them

1216
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 4: at seven.

1217
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: All right, dee bro Lions talk.

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Speaker 3: They are fourth in my rankings. I'm putting respect on

1219
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Speaker 3: their name.

1220
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Speaker 2: I think that they're going to dude, there were fifth

1221
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: in points and fifth in total yards last year. The

1222
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 2: offense is totally fine. All their offensive line is going

1223
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 2: to be massively improved. Like the addition to Cade Mays

1224
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 2: at center, They're not going to play Tate Ratledge out

1225
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 2: of place. You can make an easy conversation of Tate

1226
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: Ravlie played really really damn good football down the back

1227
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 2: half of last year once he got his legs under him.

1228
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: The addition of Blake Miller Pinney Sewell kicking over to

1229
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: those side, they have swing tackle Larry Borham, they have

1230
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: depth on the offensive line, and I think they're gonna

1231
00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 2: gel there. If they just can get their freaking defense

1232
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 2: to stay healthy throughout the entirety of a season, that

1233
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,479
Speaker 2: they are going to be never that's my problem with Okay,

1234
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 2: so you think that that can't happen after the attrition

1235
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 2: of injuries of the last two years.

1236
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Speaker 3: It will not happen. Straight up, it will not happen,

1237
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 3: Joe all.

1238
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: I can say every year these guys said, it can't happen.

1239
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,760
Speaker 1: For every year, these guys can't stay healthy. They're another

1240
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: year older in the NFL.

1241
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're not old.

1242
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: Boy. That's the problem with that conversation is they're not old.

1243
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,320
Speaker 1: They're not an old roster. They don't They're not littered

1244
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: with old players.

1245
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: Is not old.

1246
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: They just and they added Derek Moore, they added Jimmy

1247
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 2: Rolder to the to compensate for losing Alexandeloni. If DJ Reid,

1248
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: who is not an old player, can stay healthy, then

1249
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: this defense can be massively improved. And I love the

1250
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 2: fact that they picked up Roger McCreery, who played some

1251
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 2: of the best football of his entire freaking career last

1252
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: year at Nickel. Like, if their defense can even be

1253
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: now I'm not even saying top seven, top ten, whatever.

1254
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: If they could be like the thirteenth ranked defense and

1255
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: the damn NFL and their offense does what they did

1256
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 2: last year again this year, they're going to be a

1257
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Speaker 2: top five team.

1258
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 3: They're gonna win the Division.

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Speaker 1: I gotta give you probus for that. I thought that

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Speaker 1: was very nice. Joe, thank you very much. It's nice

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Speaker 1: when you say nice things. I like the positivity.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 1: next Oh it will, it will? Number six San Francisco

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00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. I know people have higher. I don't know.

1292
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: Maybe you got them lower. I hope.

1293
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 3: So no, I got him at six.

1294
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm surprised where I've read. I've got him at six.

1295
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 1: The San Francisco forty nine ers seem to have an

1296
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: annual tradition which is not doing a good job of

1297
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: the NFL draft. This is a trend now for the

1298
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: last couple of years for the forty nine ers, and

1299
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: I think it's showing up now finally, because this roster

1300
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: is so top heavy. It's like when you're playing Djengo

1301
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: with a bunch of your drunken friends. That's how top

1302
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: heavy this roster is right now. And one little piece

1303
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:11,880
Speaker 1: that you take out of it, it fits Christian McCaffrey

1304
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: or George Kittle. For too long, everything comes falling down.

1305
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: And what have they done? They put another old piece

1306
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: on top of Mike Evans, who I love. He's a

1307
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, but he is an older player at

1308
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: this point, at the end of his career. Ricky Piersoll

1309
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: hasn't been the thing, you know. I know, there's that

1310
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: brazenness of Kyle Shanahan that I could take mac Jones

1311
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: and when I could do all this, that's great, that's great,

1312
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 1: except for the top heaviness, the age, the Christian McCaffrey

1313
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: coming off the massive workload of last year again and

1314
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: another year older. I just can't get behind it. And

1315
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: I can't put them any further now. I'm putting them

1316
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: up where they are because they have the talent they have.

1317
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: But again, it's an older team that is incredibly top heavy,

1318
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: that feels like a stack of cards waiting to fall down.

1319
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: Oh and last year they had a really easy schedule,

1320
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: and oh this year it's gonna be tougher. Deebro, what

1321
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on the forty nine ers? Since you

1322
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: and I see to eye in the ranking, but I,

1323
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: as you could tell, if you want to make the

1324
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: case for the Lions over them, I'm ready to hear it.

1325
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 1: I I.

1326
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 2: Felt like I had to put respect on their name

1327
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: considering how many games they win every single year and

1328
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. But I have the same

1329
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 2: concerns you have with the top heavy nature of this roster,

1330
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,240
Speaker 2: of the how quickly this roster has gotten old. Is

1331
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,479
Speaker 2: dirt and bury injury prone like you talked about Christian McCaffrey. Okay,

1332
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: well yeah, in Mike Evans, Ricky Piersall, Christian Kirk, George

1333
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: Kittle's coming off, in Achilles, Trent Williams is another year older,

1334
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 2: Robert Jones is dealt with injuries man like Nick Bosa's

1335
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: been hurt, Drake Greenlaws had injury issues, Fred Warner's had

1336
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: injury issues.

1337
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: Mikel Williams was hurt last year.

1338
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 2: It's a whole lot of what if and I hope

1339
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 2: it turns out right. But again, I can only push

1340
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: him so low because if everybody does stay healthy, they're

1341
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 2: probably fighting for the division and a playoff, berth and

1342
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff.

1343
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: So I've got a crap ton of concerns.

1344
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,680
Speaker 2: And then the forty nine ers will go out and

1345
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 2: win eleven games or twelve games this year and shove

1346
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:06,840
Speaker 2: them my base again, who knows, I.

1347
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: Don't know, Ericson, I worry about it. They're the really

1348
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: worst out of this division. Ericson to me, are they

1349
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: not for you?

1350
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 3: No, they're not.

1351
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 4: They are the second best team is the division and

1352
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 4: their mind number two ranked team in the NFL. Wow,

1353
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 4: Because I'm buying people, I'm buying the people. I'm buying

1354
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,840
Speaker 4: the top heavyness of the forty nine ers in terms

1355
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 4: of what they have a lot of band aids at

1356
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 4: these spots. But hey, Mike Evan, this is some time.

1357
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 4: But we have these other guys that we can use instead. Well,

1358
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 4: he comes back from his injury, we can use Christian Kirk.

1359
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,120
Speaker 4: And while Christian Kirk is heard, we can use bricky pearsol,

1360
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: we can use so I just think that.

1361
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:41,440
Speaker 1: They're at the same time.

1362
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 3: What if they all go out at the same time, Well.

1363
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 4: That's where this thing crashes and burns. But I think

1364
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 4: that their their defense has to be healthy last year.

1365
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 4: Their defense has to be healthier than it was last year.

1366
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 4: It's I don't think it's possible for them to be

1367
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: more injured on defense. They had nobody left last year

1368
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 4: and losing Saul is obviously a big deal. He got

1369
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 4: the most out of that defen defense.

1370
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 1: Not good point.

1371
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 4: I think Rareie Morris as a defensive coordinator that he's

1372
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 4: no slouch.

1373
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: Like.

1374
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 4: I don't think that he.

1375
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 3: Did it just sucks as a head coach. He's good

1376
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:07,240
Speaker 3: at the DC.

1377
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I think that him is a filling in

1378
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 4: as the DC. I think that the defense is going

1379
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 4: to be back to average and frankly, with Kyle Shannon

1380
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 4: calling the shots, I think this office is going to

1381
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 4: cook no matter what, He's going to make it work.

1382
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 4: That's what he does every single year. When guys miss time,

1383
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 4: guys get injured. He miss Brock Purdy his starting quarterback

1384
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 4: last year, and he made it work with Mac Jones

1385
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 4: they beat the Rams on Thursday Night Football with Mac

1386
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 4: Jones and Kendrick Bourne and a bunch of Jabroni's and

1387
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 4: they beat the team that we all view, I think

1388
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 4: as the number one team in the NFC. So he

1389
01:00:33,840 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 4: just makes it.

1390
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 3: Get weirdast weird.

1391
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 4: And then there's a battle tested battle.

1392
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: So you know I have because they've been fighting since

1393
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: the War of eighteen twelve, because that's how oldest freaking essentially, Yes,

1394
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: my god, all right, let's get to number five here.

1395
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: This is one I struggled with a lot too, The

1396
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers, which the team that did not do

1397
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: a lot to make me excited year over year. If

1398
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons was how to start the season, I might

1399
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: feel differently about this and more excited about it. But

1400
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 1: I do still like Jordan Love. It's another guy that

1401
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 1: annually seems to miss a couple of games, which is

1402
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: not great. I like what the Packers do. I look

1403
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: Hardgrave Franklin. Those those are nice additions. But I'm just

1404
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 1: kind of at a stand stip with the Packers because

1405
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: they were kind of at a standstill year over year. Andrew,

1406
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 1: I don't know where you have the Packers. I feel

1407
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: like They're still very competitive.

1408
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: Very good.

1409
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: I need to take notice of them and give them credit.

1410
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: But at the same time, I can't make them in

1411
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: the top three. I just can't do it.

1412
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 4: I will not put them in the top three. I

1413
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 4: have them at eight because I they're going to have

1414
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 4: Michael Carson's they didn't win a game after he got

1415
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 4: her last year, Like I think that really explains at all.

1416
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 4: They trade all their future again when is That's a

1417
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:45,720
Speaker 4: real question, and I think that him, especially if he's

1418
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 4: not one hundred percent or Eve's even playing games to

1419
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 4: start the year. Well, the Packers, whe Week one comes along,

1420
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 4: they're not going to be anywhere near the top ten

1421
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 4: in my power rankings because they're missing their best player

1422
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 4: on defense, who felt their absence significantly last year. Their

1423
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,160
Speaker 4: other best offensive player, Chucker Craft. He's also coming off

1424
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 4: a season ending injury, so not as concerned about his

1425
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 4: injury long term. I think that he will be back

1426
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 4: and playing, but how effective will he be? So I

1427
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 4: think that this team just has major pass rush concerns

1428
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 4: without Parsons. So that's why I have them at eight.

1429
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: And Jonathan Gannon kind of stepping in as a defensive

1430
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 4: coordinator Arizona defense last year. The year before that, not good.

1431
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 4: Nate Hobbs, DeVante White, other guys coming back after of

1432
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 4: season ending injuries. So that's where I get really concerned

1433
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 4: about the green Bay Packers and why I have of eight.

1434
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: Well Man, So let's talk about it. Yeah, I've got

1435
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 3: him at a too.

1436
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: And I'm concerned because we all collectively looked at the

1437
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers defense last year and we all said, oh,

1438
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: good lord, how are they going to stop anybody outside

1439
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 2: of Michael Parsons. And we all learned that Jeff Hafley

1440
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: is one of the best DC's in the entire freaking NFL.

1441
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,960
Speaker 2: So I think you look at a defense that played

1442
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 2: way above it's playing weight last year, they fought way

1443
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: above their weight class. I think a lot of that

1444
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: comes back to Earth what he would to talk talk about,

1445
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: who's healthy, and then scheme and Jonathan Gannon. Plus their

1446
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 2: offensive line isn't exactly amazing, dude, Like, we got questions

1447
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 2: all across the offensive line, like could Jordan Morgan step

1448
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 2: in as as a good left tackle? Sean Ryan at center? Like,

1449
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 2: so I've got a lot of questions outside of injuries

1450
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 2: and productivity, like I'm actually giving where we have them ranked.

1451
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: I feel like it's giving a heavy nod to the

1452
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: floor to figure it the hell out, and not a

1453
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 2: ton of on paper amazingness.

1454
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I agree, I don't like I said, I

1455
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 1: don't love it, but I couldn't find and I couldn't

1456
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: push the lower Here's the thing.

1457
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 4: Though, Like you should put the forty nine ers ahead

1458
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 4: of the Packers.

1459
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: No, no, but here, no no, I won't because they're

1460
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: so fricking old and they're so top heavy, and I

1461
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: hate the rest of that roster. If you pull back

1462
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: two layers of that onion, oh my god, doesn't stink.

1463
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just telling you right now, like it

1464
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: is bad and I'm crushing the metaphors on today. I

1465
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,440
Speaker 1: got just like what what what?

1466
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1467
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: The next one. Here, we're gonna talk about all right,

1468
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna talk about my was it the fourth ranked team?

1469
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. I think belief is a little important, and

1470
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 1: I think Chicago Bears found a way to believe in themselves.

1471
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: I think Cole said love one's going to be a

1472
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: problem for the rest of the NFL, and Ben Johnson's

1473
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: gonna utilize him the right way. I think Burden and

1474
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: a Doonzay will be just fine without DJ Moore around there.

1475
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, I've been probably the toughest on Caleb Williams

1476
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: of maybe anybody that we work with here, But I

1477
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: have to give credit. Caleb Williams found a lot of

1478
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: ways to win games, and I think that stuff gets

1479
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: a little bit kind of I don't know, winning Breed's

1480
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: winning and losing Breeds losing, and when you start to

1481
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: win games, you feel like you can win any game.

1482
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 1: I think that's really interesting. I also think it's really

1483
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: interesting going back to the last point too, that you

1484
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: guys are so many people are bullish about certain guys

1485
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: returns from injuries, but you know, like Patrick Mahomes, this guy,

1486
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 1: this gotta be back, this everything will be fine. But

1487
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: yet Michael Parsons will be in week fifteen. He's got

1488
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: plenty of time to recover from that injury. I think

1489
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: he'll be back sooner than later. I just don't think

1490
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be week one ish necessarily. But with

1491
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: the Bear, I just think we're in a spot where

1492
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:04,000
Speaker 1: my big concern with them is did they do enough

1493
01:05:04,040 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: to replace the guys they lost in the secondary. I

1494
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: don't think they have, so that to me is a

1495
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: big question mark. Other than that, I think we're just

1496
01:05:11,360 --> 01:05:13,400
Speaker 1: gonna put my faith in Ben Johnson, which scares the

1497
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: crap out of me Andrew, but I'm gonna do it.

1498
01:05:15,560 --> 01:05:18,040
Speaker 4: I think that's the only thing you can do if

1499
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 4: you're gonna put him. This high is been on Ben

1500
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 4: Johnson and Caleb Williams taking another step because we all

1501
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 4: talked about in a lot of our mock drafts. Bear's

1502
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 4: got a draft an edge rusher. They got to get

1503
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 4: more pass rush. The pass russ was non existent last year.

1504
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 4: What did they not do? It didn't draft the pass

1505
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 4: They were thirty first and pass rush win rate last year.

1506
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 4: They were also twenty ninth yards allowed. I know they

1507
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,439
Speaker 4: drafted Dylan Fieneman, safety that we really like, but he's

1508
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 4: still a rookie that's taking on a massive role in

1509
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 4: that secondary. So yeah, this could be an offense that

1510
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 4: we love for fantasy because it's shootout, shootout, shootout, because

1511
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 4: its defense like last year, can't stop anything. And Caleb

1512
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 4: Williams is just Luther Burden Colson love and like, we

1513
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 4: love it, But how many wins did they get especially

1514
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 4: with last year being all the second half comebacks, all

1515
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 4: the defensive turnovers that they have every close game, so everybody.

1516
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 4: This was another one I struggled with was the Bears

1517
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 4: and the Lions. I was very torn on which one

1518
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 4: I liked more to win this division. I know that

1519
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 4: Debro so that he likes the Lions. Joe, you obviously

1520
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 4: like the Bears here, But going back to looking at

1521
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 4: who has a harder path to get through, the Lions

1522
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 4: have the number one easiest schedule in the NFL. The

1523
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 4: Bears have the twenty seventh rank schedule point is, so

1524
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 4: I Debro had kind of convinced me a little bit

1525
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 4: here that yes, I love the Bears offense, but the

1526
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 4: Lions offense is no slouch either, and defensively, if they're

1527
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 4: both kind of average, I almost kind of lean towards. Look,

1528
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 4: the Lions is just gonna have an easier path to

1529
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:48,479
Speaker 4: get more wins than if they split. When they face

1530
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,320
Speaker 4: each other head to head, then I think the Lions

1531
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 4: might be able to come up on top here. So

1532
01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 4: that's something I might make an adjustment. But I do

1533
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 4: still have the Bears. Even if I move them down one,

1534
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 4: they'll be six or seven.

1535
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 1: I did not make those ranking without the knowledge of

1536
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: the worst get out. I did not make this ranking

1537
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: without the acknowledgement of the fact that every single ball

1538
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 1: bounced their way last year.

1539
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 3: And I mean every single one everyone.

1540
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: But but when I come back to football is a

1541
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: young man's game, and this is a young team, a

1542
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: young explosive team, a young athletic team. And I look

1543
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: at some of these other teams, like the forty nine

1544
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 1: ers were old af and I just go, are they

1545
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: gonna hold up for this many weeks?

1546
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1547
01:07:25,800 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my money with the Bears instead, in

1548
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: that youth and inexperience, not knowing that they shouldn't be

1549
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: good two years in a row. De bro, I know

1550
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:36,959
Speaker 1: you disagree, so let's talk about it. I'll just begin

1551
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: my rant with this the Bear up a chair.

1552
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 4: Like every every signature, every second half.

1553
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: When the twenty twenty five Chicago Bears set an NFL

1554
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: record by winning seven games in which they trailed going

1555
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,120
Speaker 2: into the final two minutes in the regular that doesn't

1556
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: show you heart and the playoffs, that doesn't show you

1557
01:07:57,120 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: a little bit, also shows you a ship ton of luck.

1558
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 4: Predictive cannot tell me that it doesn't.

1559
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: You can't predict heart. Come on, guys, you can't.

1560
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 2: You can't like pulling something out of your butt to

1561
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 2: sit here and win a game at the very end

1562
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,120
Speaker 2: of the game when you.

1563
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 3: Throw up a total yolo ball into the damn end zone. No, man,

1564
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 3: like I, I just can't like. So much went right

1565
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 3: for them.

1566
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,439
Speaker 1: Also, like Erickson talked about, like their defense man, their

1567
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,559
Speaker 1: defense led the NFL in turnover percentage last year.

1568
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 3: But they also if you look at the rest of

1569
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 3: their stuff, like.

1570
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 1: They gave up the six most rushing yards, they got

1571
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: eviscerated through the air, the second like the eleventh most

1572
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: passing yards. It was all turnovers and magic at the

1573
01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: end of games. If all of that goes even if

1574
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: half of that goes sideways, this isn't an eleven or

1575
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: twelve win team. This is an eight win team.

1576
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 3: This year. I have them at seven.

1577
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: I'm putting respect on their name, but I'm also being

1578
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: realistic that all of this magic of they were the

1579
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 1: Washington Commanders of last season, some of that, if not

1580
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: all of that, can come back to earth in twenty

1581
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 1: twenty six. All Right, there you have it, everybody. We

1582
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: have some disagreements respectfully about the Chicago Bears. I believe

1583
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:17,960
Speaker 1: in heart, I believe in You believe in a lot

1584
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: of magic.

1585
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:20,880
Speaker 3: You believe in a tonne, and I believe in in

1586
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:22,680
Speaker 3: a lucky penny. That's what you believe in it.

1587
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: Hey, man, all right, let's get to the top three

1588
01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 1: teams here. I know we're running along here. Top three.

1589
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: You know, to be the man, you gotta beat the man.

1590
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles are still the man. I think to

1591
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: a certain degree, I do think that eventually, when the

1592
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 1: jettison of AJ Brown happens, it might actually be really

1593
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 1: good for everybody. Like I think that kind of now,

1594
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 1: I do think Nix sirian is kind of on the

1595
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,840
Speaker 1: hot seat, which I know sounds crazy because they just

1596
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl a couple of years ago. But

1597
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: it's Philadelphia, and when things go in south, they go

1598
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: south fast way into South Philadelphia where they start getting

1599
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: real upset about, you know, like you gotta go to

1600
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: wall Wah and get a hoogie and go down and

1601
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: talk about how bad Nick Sirianni is And I like

1602
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 1: how he's what he's doing there is terrible. They suck

1603
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:06,880
Speaker 1: freaking Eagles, man, Like I think You're in a spot

1604
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: right now where there's a lot of good that I

1605
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 1: could see coming from the Eagles season. But as I

1606
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, sometimes the Eagles played down to their competition,

1607
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: and I don't love that about them either. They a

1608
01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: lot of weird games last year where you're like, why

1609
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: aren't the Eagles just crushing this team and they're not,

1610
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 1: and that pissed me off. And I will still go

1611
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 1: with the Eagles at three. Debro Where do you have them,

1612
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: I assume in your top three?

1613
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 2: Still right, Oh yeah, they're third, and a down season

1614
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 2: for the Eagles was still eleven games being yeah, right exactly.

1615
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 2: I still think they're one of the best teams in

1616
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:41,600
Speaker 2: the NFC, Like obviously, like I'm put him in the

1617
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: third here, Like I think they're gonna compete with the

1618
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. It's gonna be them those two teams for

1619
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,599
Speaker 2: the division. I think both teams have rosters that could

1620
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 2: win anywhere from eleven to like thirteen fourteen games. So

1621
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 2: I think the Eagles can be better this year. You know,

1622
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 2: losing Jalen Phillips, but then they trade for Jonathan Gernard,

1623
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 2: they still have a da defensive rock. Like even with

1624
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,200
Speaker 2: losing to Kobe Dean. They still got Jod Campbell, they

1625
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 2: still got Zach Bond, they still got Nolan Smith. The

1626
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 2: defensive line is still stacked. Like their secondary is really

1627
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 2: freaking good. If they get better offensive output this year,

1628
01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:15,599
Speaker 2: like if Saquon Barkley, who had pretty much a really

1629
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,479
Speaker 2: down season for him, if he can bounce back and

1630
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 2: the offensive line can be a little bit healthier this year, Yeah,

1631
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: they're They're They're a definitive Super Bowl contender.

1632
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: Offense has to play better. Ericson that. That's my third Eagles,

1633
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: Like you got to like reimagine the offense a little

1634
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,480
Speaker 1: bit and hopefully they can the season.

1635
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: Well, they'll actually have an oc hopefully that can call

1636
01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 2: plays outside of Brian Johnson and Kevin Patulo, who got

1637
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: all two of the worst OCAs in the entire freaking NFL.

1638
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 1: Do you think that turnaround for the offense with the Eagles?

1639
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,880
Speaker 4: And maybe at some point. So I don't have them

1640
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 4: in my top three because I have for nine ers

1641
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 4: in my top three. So neither of you mentioned again

1642
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 4: bourn Niners very top heavy. What happens when the Eagles

1643
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 4: lose Lane Johnson? Right, this is another team that's also

1644
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 4: very top heavy tackle, rookie tackle. Yeah, let's throw him

1645
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:03,479
Speaker 4: into the fire. He'll do great.

1646
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 3: What if he stays healthy?

1647
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 4: What if Trn Williams stays healthy? But all the forty

1648
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,360
Speaker 4: nine ers, guys, you are like ready to write off.

1649
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 4: It's like there's no way they can ever play all

1650
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 4: over again.

1651
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,440
Speaker 1: Williams good offensive line, and the Eagles.

1652
01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 4: Are They're regardless. We know that the Eagles when they

1653
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 4: lose Lane Johnson, they don't play as well. I remember

1654
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:23,600
Speaker 4: because I bet on them in the playoffs and I

1655
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 4: lost Lane Johnson and I was very sad and upset

1656
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 4: about it because I didn't know until later on after

1657
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 4: I had already made my wagers. So I'm not really

1658
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,400
Speaker 4: super high on Sean Mannon as the offensive coordinator going

1659
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 4: to Philadelphia. And even if it is better than it's

1660
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 4: been in past years, does it take some time to gel?

1661
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 4: Does it take time for the new offense? Okay, they're

1662
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 4: gonna be thrown over the middle of the field. Okay,

1663
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 4: that's great, Hurts we've seen. Okay, can you do me

1664
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 4: be better? Throwing over the middle field? Well, this has

1665
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 4: been something he's been asked to do a lot of

1666
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 4: So is it new how long does this take the

1667
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 4: gel And when we look at their health last year.

1668
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: I like pointing this out because the Baltimore Ravens were

1669
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 4: the healthiest team in the NFL in twenty twenty four.

1670
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 4: What happened to that twenty five? Things unraveled for them?

1671
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 4: The Eagles were of the second healthiest team in the

1672
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 4: NFL last year, second healthiest offense in the NFC last

1673
01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 4: year in terms of adjusted games lost. So if they

1674
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,360
Speaker 4: run into some injury issues on both offense and defense,

1675
01:13:13,439 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 4: defense we know also is in a sticky from year

1676
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 4: to year. Their defense goes from elite to just average, Okay,

1677
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 4: then maybe they are losing a couple more games. What

1678
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 4: is the transition from aj Brown to McKay Lemon. Aj

1679
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:26,240
Speaker 4: Brown I think is still a better player. Right now.

1680
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 4: You can make the argument what was his state of

1681
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 4: mind in the offense? How effective was he actually helping?

1682
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 4: I get that, But mackay Lemon is still a rookie

1683
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,839
Speaker 4: and they lost their elite offensive line coach Jeff Stoutlin.

1684
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 4: So those are my concerns. Again, I have them four,

1685
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 4: but there are reasons why I'm pushing a team like

1686
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:44,920
Speaker 4: the forty nine ers ahead of them. Who Also, how

1687
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:46,960
Speaker 4: many games did the fordy Iers win last year? Didn't

1688
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 4: they win like eleven years?

1689
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: And by the way, Williams is thirty seven? Keep that?

1690
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:59,120
Speaker 4: How old is Lane Johnson? Thirty six? He's gonna be

1691
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 4: around It's got to be around there too. It's got

1692
01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:02,639
Speaker 4: thirty six.

1693
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: It's not thirty seven. I win, I win? All right,

1694
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: Let's we go to the top two teams. The number two,

1695
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: the number one. Number two is the reigning defending Super

1696
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks. Like that defense is still elaitd.

1697
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: I'm sorry everybody, Like we can all pretend like it

1698
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: ain't it is. I think they ken Walker lost Hurts

1699
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: and Sharbadin's not there, but they drafted Jeneering Prize. Do

1700
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: I expect Sam Donald to be brilliant? No, I expect

1701
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: them to be fine. They lose the coordinator though Klin

1702
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 1: Kubiak going on to become a head coach, and they

1703
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: lose ken Walker. Those are two big losses. But I

1704
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 1: still think that Seattle defense is great. Look, this was

1705
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: one of my favorite win totals last year. They were

1706
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: eight and a half and I thought it was completely wrong,

1707
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 1: And I was right about it because the defense is great,

1708
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 1: and it brings us to our number one team here,

1709
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. Boom spoiler alert, say we're in

1710
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 1: the shirt today. The Rams are the best team in paper,

1711
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 1: but they've got to start putting on the field, like

1712
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: they've got to stop losing these weird games to teams

1713
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: like the Carolina Panthers. And of course I am worried

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01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:01,320
Speaker 1: about DeVante Adams b another year older, I am worried

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01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 1: about all the Pooka Nakula stuff, not just what's happening

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01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: off the field, but even on the field. Like we

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01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 1: know Pukanakua plays all out every play. The problem is

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01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,200
Speaker 1: sometimes he's in the blue tent too much. Lots of

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01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,519
Speaker 1: reasons there. But when we talk about the raigning MVP,

1720
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 1: we're talking about one of the best coaches in the league.

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01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 1: If you have coaching quarterback, you have a chance. And

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01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 1: like I think Vegas agrees with me too. When you

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01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,000
Speaker 1: look at the win total for them and you look

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01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:24,800
Speaker 1: at the favorites for the Super Bowl, the Rams are

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01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: right up there. So Rams won Seahawks two Debro discuss

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01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: what do you think here with these two one and

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01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 1: two spots?

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01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 3: Here we're in lockstep. My big problem or my biggest

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01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:36,160
Speaker 3: concern with.

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Speaker 2: The Rams is going back to a very forty nine

1731
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 2: Ers esque type of conversation where Staffords had injury concerns.

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01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: Their offensive line has had injury concerns, Puka's had injury concerns,

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01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:50,040
Speaker 2: DeVante Adams has injury concerns.

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Speaker 3: This is why I crushed them in the draft, because.

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01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:54,600
Speaker 1: They made all these future moves, but they're just like

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01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,879
Speaker 1: it's like they pretended like they're not a super Bowl favorite,

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01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: or they leaned so heavily on that if they do

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01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: with any type of like injury, uh the injury war

1739
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: of attrition, Like they could be plummeting down there and

1740
01:16:08,479 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 1: missed the freaking playoffs this year.

1741
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 3: Like that wouldn't surprise me either.

1742
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 1: But like if they stay healthy, hell yeah, they're the

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01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: best team in the NFC, Like right up there with

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01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,600
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. Like they're one and two and that that

1745
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 1: that cannedy be questioned about who is one and two,

1746
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,679
Speaker 1: Like they're your order, But these are the two best

1747
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 1: teams in the NFC, but out of out when you

1748
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: look at the top two teams, I have way more

1749
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 1: questions about the Rams than I do the freaking Seahawks.

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:35,040
Speaker 1: The Seahawks death is like it crushes the Rams. It does,

1751
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: but I'll still take the quarterback. No, agree, That's why

1752
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 1: than take a quarterback over Sam Donald. And look, Sam

1753
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 1: Donald won a super Bowl. That's great the Super Bowl.

1754
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 1: Sam Donald came along for the run. And to that point, though,

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01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: the defense of the Rams, I mean Jared versus a

1756
01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: game wrecker. There's a lot to like here with the Rams.

1757
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 1: The offense, but the Rams defense is a lot better

1758
01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 1: than people give them credit for.

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01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,719
Speaker 4: Two Andrew Yes, and they've added the players in their secondary,

1760
01:16:59,720 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 4: which one of their biggest weaknesses. Addressing that Trent McDuff y,

1761
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 4: Kalen Watson basically taking taking the Casey secondary. That was very,

1762
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,519
Speaker 4: very great in their scheme. So they're my number one

1763
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,320
Speaker 4: team and I don't need to talk about the forty

1764
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 4: nine ers anymore. I have Seattle on the spot behind

1765
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,400
Speaker 4: them at three just because losing Klint Kubiak, I think

1766
01:17:19,439 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 4: that matters significantly. We've seen teams offensively fall off and

1767
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 4: when they lose a really influential playmaker or excuse me,

1768
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:29,080
Speaker 4: play caller like Kubiak. And the Seahawks were also the

1769
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 4: third healthiest offense last year. So if going back to

1770
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 4: top five defense, yes, that's what they should be viewed

1771
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 4: at and projected at. But what if they're not. What

1772
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 4: if they're just more of an average defense and they're

1773
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 4: not winning games every single week because of their defense.

1774
01:17:43,160 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 4: Can the offense pick up the slack? Maybe not without Kubiak,

1775
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,280
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold, That's the only thing I've concerned. But still

1776
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 4: have them at number three. I just I just I

1777
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 4: don't know. I just think I'm betting on the upside

1778
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 4: of the forty nine ers. I think that they just

1779
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 4: get a bit of better injury luck. I think that

1780
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 4: they can win a lot of games. Look, this is

1781
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 4: team was like, we're presenting the NFCM Super Bowl like

1782
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 4: year after year. So again Nantasy West, and this goes

1783
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 4: back to our original point we started. Why the Arizona

1784
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 4: Cardinals are going to have the worst record in the

1785
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 4: NFL because I have to face all of these top

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01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 4: teams two times this year.

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Speaker 1: Well, all these top teams in that division, by the way,

1788
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: Vegas has all all three of them have ten and

1789
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 1: a half wins as their win total over under.

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01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,639
Speaker 3: So that's exact three.

1791
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 1: Teams in one division with double digit win total. You

1792
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,680
Speaker 1: don't see that very often doesn't happen so much. So

1793
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,760
Speaker 1: there you have it. Those are my power rankings and

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