Speaker 1: Welcome in. We'll Drive with Nick Wright episode three five
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Speaker 1: So we did a long draft show last night. We
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Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the draft was last night and you were
Speaker 2: obviously live for that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: There were some crazy moments in there, and one of
Speaker 2: the notable ones was the Pelican trade.
Speaker 3: And here's your reaction to it.
Speaker 1: Did New Orleans just ear Muff's kids? Nor Orlean's just
Speaker 1: fucking traded away their next year's first round pick unprotected
Speaker 1: to move up from twenty three to thirteen. That might
Speaker 1: be the most reckless draft day trade I've seen in
Speaker 1: five years. Yeah. So that, I mean, we'll get more
Speaker 1: into that in a second, but go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Another one was Brooklyn using all five picks in Portland,
Speaker 2: taking Yang twenty five picks early. What was your single
Speaker 2: biggest takeaway from the draft last night?
Speaker 1: My single biggest takeaway was what New Orleans did. And listen,
Speaker 1: we will talk Cooper Flag, and we will talk Dylan Harper,
Speaker 1: and we will talk Ace Bailey. But I I have
Speaker 1: had a night to sleep on it, and I am
Speaker 1: more entrenched that Joe Dumar's first draft since taking back
Speaker 1: taking the Pelicans, Joe Dumars was not great in Detroit.
Speaker 1: He's a great player, but was not a great executive.
Speaker 1: And he was there for a long time, and then
Speaker 1: he went to the league office for a long time.
Speaker 1: And this is gonna be this is where Man TV
Speaker 1: Show Today is gonna be a little tricky because we
Speaker 1: net Obviously, we all on the show say whatever we
Speaker 1: you know, think. However, there is I at times I
Speaker 1: feel not because of Brew, but I personally feel a
Speaker 1: little awkward because Brew has real relationships with a lot
Speaker 1: of people long term, and sometimes I realize, like halfway
Speaker 1: through a take, I'm like, am I talking about one
Speaker 1: of Bruce's friends like it? And and so I don't
Speaker 1: know whether or not Brew has a real relationship with
Speaker 1: Joe Dumars, but I would imagine he does. And so
Speaker 1: it is that could be, you know, a weird spot
Speaker 1: on First Things First Today. But listen, as I always say,
Speaker 1: my only obligation is to the truth, and the truth
Speaker 1: is it's one of the craziest damn things I've ever
Speaker 1: seen the team do. And it's New Orleans. If you
Speaker 1: weren't watching New Orleans really like Derek Queen, I, if
Speaker 1: you were watching our live draft show, I said, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't hate it if New Orleans took Queen at seven
Speaker 1: when they had the opportunity, that would have been a
Speaker 1: slight overdraft. Instead they go Jeremiah Fears, and so there's
Speaker 1: just so much. There's so much here that I find fascinating.
Speaker 1: One is Jeremiah Fears of high offensive upside, very questionable defender,
Speaker 1: didn't really show efficiency in college. His direct comp is
Speaker 1: kind of Jordan Poole, who New Orleans just tray for
Speaker 1: a day before the draft. So you trade it for
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole, you then draft Jeremiah Fears. The other guy
Speaker 1: that they were clearly very interested in is Derek Queen,
Speaker 1: a guy I like a lot, but a guy that
Speaker 1: I said during the draft show not in athleticism, but
Speaker 1: in strengths and weaknesses as a player. Reminds you a
Speaker 1: lot of Zion. Where can kind of play a little
Speaker 1: point forward is you know, has real questions defensively, Zion
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to but ended up having those. Is not
Speaker 1: going to be a great shooter, but and it is
Speaker 1: not going to be a real rim protector because he's
Speaker 1: not seven feet tall or even really like you know,
Speaker 1: a pro Zion is not even approaching seven feet tall,
Speaker 1: and there are some work ethic concerns, there are some
Speaker 1: why aren't you in better shape concerns, but the talent
Speaker 1: is really right there it New Orleans has that guy
Speaker 1: in Zion. They take Derek Queen, which again I don't hate,
Speaker 1: in a vacuum, and some might say, well, that then
Speaker 1: allows you potentially more easily to trade Zion if you
Speaker 1: want to replace him with Derek Queen. All that would
Speaker 1: make sense if they had simply taken Derreck Queen at seven,
Speaker 1: or if they had simply traded made any other type
Speaker 1: of trade other than trading away what is potentially, potentially
Speaker 1: all things considered, the most valuable pick going into next
Speaker 1: year's draft. And the reason I say that is not
Speaker 1: because I think New Orleans is the team most likely
Speaker 1: to have the worst record in basketball. The reason I
Speaker 1: say that is that's not what they traded. So they
Speaker 1: went from twenty three to thirteen. So to the cost
Speaker 1: to move up those ten spots, they traded away unprotected
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six draft pick that will be either New
Speaker 1: Orleans or Milwaukee, the better of the two. So New
Speaker 1: Orleans has I don't know, a fifteen percent chance to
Speaker 1: be the worst team in the league next year, and
Speaker 1: Milwaukee has like, here's the question, what is the chance
Speaker 1: Yannis gets hurt slash? What is the chance or added
Speaker 1: to the chance that Milwaukee trades Giannis? Because whatever is
Speaker 1: that five percent? If that happens, Milwaukee's the worst team
Speaker 1: in the league. Milwaukee with Dame out potentially the whole year.
Speaker 1: If Giannis gets dinged or if they just trade him,
Speaker 1: they become the worst team in the league. And the
Speaker 1: other teams that are in contention for the worst team
Speaker 1: in the league, most notably Charlotte and Brooklyn and maybe Washington,
Speaker 1: those teams are in the East Utah as well as
Speaker 1: in there. So to give away that draft pick that
Speaker 1: might be aj Debanza or you know, or again it
Speaker 1: will almost assuredly be a top ten pick and has
Speaker 1: a real chance of being a top five pick for
Speaker 1: not not for a superstar, not as a package to
Speaker 1: get a player like Giannis, but to just move up
Speaker 1: and get a guy who, if you had not moved
Speaker 1: up and taken him, was likely going to fall out
Speaker 1: of the lottery. It's just incomprehensibly bad. And I was
Speaker 1: thinking yesterday like what version of this trade would I
Speaker 1: have made if I were New Orleans. Would I have
Speaker 1: offered this unprotected twenty twenty six better of New Orleans
Speaker 1: or Milwaukee straight up for the thirteenth pick, not even
Speaker 1: including the twenty third pick. No, I would not have.
Speaker 1: Would I have done this trade demonse if it were
Speaker 1: the opposite, meaning twenty three thirteen to four twenty three
Speaker 1: and the worse of the two New Orleans Milwaukee picks,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have done that either, because it's on the board.
Speaker 1: They're both both bad. Like again, I don't I think
Speaker 1: Milwaukee should be fine, but they, more than any team
Speaker 1: in the league, are a one man show, other than
Speaker 1: maybe Denver, but even Denver, if Joker were to go down,
Speaker 1: you have other pieces you like it. Would I have
Speaker 1: traded twenty three and next year's unprotected number one to
Speaker 1: move up to seven, which again wouldn't have made sense
Speaker 1: because New Orleans already had seven, But you understand what
Speaker 1: I mean. I wouldn't have done that. So I think
Speaker 1: this will go down. We have to see, you know,
Speaker 1: where these picks land, and we will see it. But
Speaker 1: I think this will be like the Hawks trading Luca
Speaker 1: for Trey, the tie of move that we reference for
Speaker 1: on Draft night that we reference for years and years
Speaker 1: and years.
Speaker 2: Maybe the Pelicans front office is in love with that
Speaker 2: archetype and they're just backup planes. You know, if those
Speaker 2: the other two don't pan out, we're shipping them out
Speaker 2: of here.
Speaker 1: I don't know, right, So you trade for Pool, your draft,
Speaker 1: a guy who maybe one day can be Pool, and
Speaker 1: Fears you have Zion.
Speaker 2: And you've already seen what Pool and Zion are kind
Speaker 2: of like being in the NBA.
Speaker 1: I don't yes, I mean, it's clearly something like that, Demante,
Speaker 1: but it if we right now, let me check on DraftKings,
Speaker 1: the the odds for team futures. Can we I just
Speaker 1: see finals? Okay, here we go conference winner in the West,
Speaker 1: New Orleans. There are I mean, that's the West is
Speaker 1: so funny. There are nine teams that are twenty five
Speaker 1: to one or better, so OKC, Houston, Minnesota, Lakers, Nuggets, Warriors, Spurs, Clippers, Mavericks.
Speaker 1: Those nine teams won through nine or twenty five to one.
Speaker 1: There are then six teams that are one hundred and
Speaker 1: ten to one or worse. The Grizzlies, the Pels, the Kings,
Speaker 1: the Suns, the Blazers, the Jazz. The Jazz should be
Speaker 1: the worst team in the West next year. After that,
Speaker 1: the Kings and Grizzlies want to win. The Suns obviously
Speaker 1: want to win, and the Blazers just traded for a
Speaker 1: thirty six year old Drew Holiday. Now it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: those and New Orleans obviously wants to win. My point
Speaker 1: is only one team in the West doesn't want to win.
Speaker 1: In Utah, You're not gonna, you know, fall into easy
Speaker 1: conference victories. I I just I am gobsmacked at this,
Speaker 1: and I maybe it's a nerdy look at uh the
Speaker 1: draft to be focused on this trade. I just think
Speaker 1: it's one of the most reckless moves I've seen a
Speaker 1: teammate in a very, very long time. And it also
Speaker 1: does show you this is one of the cool things
Speaker 1: about the draft, the ticking clock factor. Like if this
Speaker 1: would have been done in right during the course of
Speaker 1: regular business, would cooler heads in New Orleans have prevailed
Speaker 1: and been like, hey, Joe, what if we offer them
Speaker 1: this exact trade, but just say the pick has to
Speaker 1: be top ten protected and they say no, and we say, okay,
Speaker 1: top five protected, then certainly you could have done top
Speaker 1: one protected like they you would have been able to
Speaker 1: better massage or get a swap back or something. But
Speaker 1: because five minutes, Yeah, you want to miss out on
Speaker 1: your player, you gotta go. And the new I mean
Speaker 1: a triple plus to the new Hawks front office. What
Speaker 1: an opening few days got off some bad salary, added
Speaker 1: Chris STAPs came away with an absolute it is I
Speaker 1: don't know, a ten percent chance, No, probably higher fifteen
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Speaker 1: All right, demonte, let's get to the top pick of
Speaker 1: the draft.
Speaker 2: So, as expected, the MAVs took Cooper Flag with the
Speaker 2: first pick, so they extended Kyrie and Gafford. The question is,
Speaker 2: if Kyrie ends up healthy, do you think that Dallas's
Speaker 2: contenders for Dallas ARC.
Speaker 1: Do you think they are?
Speaker 3: Yes? I do.
Speaker 1: I knew I could tell just from the look in
Speaker 1: your face, So go ahead.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I was just telling the guys this morning.
Speaker 2: The balance of defense and offense on that team also
Speaker 2: paired in with the way I know that's your guy,
Speaker 2: but the way that Luca was looking in the playoffs
Speaker 2: last year, it just kind of seems like Beakle might
Speaker 2: have had a grasp on the situation and what was
Speaker 2: going on over there.
Speaker 3: And I like that team.
Speaker 2: Like if Cooper Flag pans out nicely, I hate that
Speaker 2: it worked out for him, and you know he got
Speaker 2: that they ended up with the number one pick. But
Speaker 2: with that number one pick, that's a that's a squad
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 1: So so that let's talk about the Nico piece of
Speaker 1: this and then we'll get to the team. Because Nico
Speaker 1: had a quote Nico said, Fortune favors the bold and
Speaker 1: on behalf of MAVs fans everywhere. I wanted to break
Speaker 1: a TV. Yeah, it's you do not. You do not
Speaker 1: get to Trey Luca hold a press conference saying we
Speaker 1: did this for this year because we think we are
Speaker 1: better right now to win a championship this year or
Speaker 1: next year, and then end up bad enough that you're
Speaker 1: in the lottery and fall last backwards into the number
Speaker 1: one pick and then be like all part of the plan.
Speaker 1: If at that listen, honest to god, if at that
Speaker 1: press conference he had said, listen, we are all about championships.
Speaker 1: I even though we thought last year's finals appearance was
Speaker 1: fool's gold, and we traded for Anthony Davis knowing he's
Speaker 1: injured and by the way, he's gonna take some time
Speaker 1: to come back this year. This is not about this season,
Speaker 1: and we may or may not even be back in
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year. We're okay with this because this
Speaker 1: is a long term play. And then you end up
Speaker 1: with Cooper, then you can say, told you a part
Speaker 1: of the plan. Didn't expect number one pick, but we
Speaker 1: were going to add an im back player. Fine, they
Speaker 1: don't get to be like, we are doing this to
Speaker 1: contend right now, you fall into the and and then
Speaker 1: be in the play in and be trying to win
Speaker 1: the play in, lose, fall into the lottery, get the
Speaker 1: number one pick, and be like Bang told you. So
Speaker 1: that's first of all. But they are where they are.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, well, yeah, Just to be clear, I don't
Speaker 2: want to give Nico. I don't want to give him
Speaker 2: any credit for this, Like no, the Luca piece of it,
Speaker 2: Like I kind of can see he's a little bit
Speaker 2: onto something. It was a crazy trade, but with it
Speaker 2: work painting out the way it did and then getting
Speaker 2: that first pick, I think they have quite the squad
Speaker 2: on them right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the real question is do they And
Speaker 1: my answer to that question is I think right now
Speaker 1: they are more than a touch over rated. And here's
Speaker 1: why I listen. I heard uh and again this is
Speaker 1: not picking on him. I think other people thought this,
Speaker 1: but I heard this from I heard Steven A yesterday
Speaker 1: say that they think that he thinks they could be
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City's biggest competitor. I disagree. And the reason I
Speaker 1: disagree is this, I do not care how good you are,
Speaker 1: how what your profile is in the modern NBA. In particular,
Speaker 1: rookies that have to be the focal point of a
Speaker 1: team's offense do not contribute to winning flatly. They just don't.
Speaker 1: Like I understand Magic was great as a rookie, he
Speaker 1: was not the focal point of the team's offense. Kareem
Speaker 1: was lebron as unbelievable as he was. That Cavs team
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. Michael Jordan as a rookie, I think,
Speaker 1: averaged twenty eight points a game. That Bulls team won
Speaker 1: thirty eight games. Okay, like asking rookies. Hell, take the
Speaker 1: MAVs with Luca Luca's first year he was Cooper. Flag's
Speaker 1: not going to be better than Luca year one Luca.
Speaker 1: When year two Luki was first Team All NBA, they
Speaker 1: won thirty three games. Now, obviously those guys didn't have
Speaker 1: an Anthony Davis on that on their team and eventually
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving, but so they they should be better than
Speaker 1: those records. But the point that I am making is
Speaker 1: as long as Kyrie is out, and I do not
Speaker 1: think Kyrie. I think expecting Kyrie to be back before
Speaker 1: the alls our break is foolish. I think Kyrie Irving,
Speaker 1: given his you know, knee history and injury history and
Speaker 1: his size in his age, and you just signed him
Speaker 1: to an extension, Rushing him back would be foolish. And
Speaker 1: until Kyrie comes back, you are going to be asking
Speaker 1: your primary ball handler and your primary creator to be
Speaker 1: an eighteen year old. Like I love Flags Upside because
Speaker 1: of his age, but he's eighteen. He turns nineteen in December,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe Clay as a bounce back year.
Speaker 1: He is not creating. Anthony Davis is awesome. He is
Speaker 1: not creating Gafford and PJ. Washington and Derek Lively are
Speaker 1: all useful players, they are not creating. You traded away
Speaker 1: a guy who could create a bit in Quentin Grimes
Speaker 1: for reasons I don't totally understand to bring in Caleb Martin.
Speaker 1: So like your secondary main creator is gonna be Max Christie,
Speaker 1: the other part of the A D trade until Kyrie
Speaker 1: gets back.
Speaker 3: He is. He's just not good at creating shots.
Speaker 1: No, I don't Dinwitt, Am I wrong? I thought Dinwitty
Speaker 1: was a free agent. Maybe I'm the I don't so
Speaker 1: I think Dinwitty right now is the Uh. Maybe they
Speaker 1: bring him back, but he's so he's not on the
Speaker 1: roster right now. So they I mean so and Dinwitty is.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason that Dinwitti's last few last
Speaker 1: contract was for the league minimum, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like he he can be a microwave offense, but he is.
Speaker 2: He was about to say, if it's if it's for
Speaker 2: the purpose of making it to where Cooper Flag isn't
Speaker 2: your main guy, then you know, well, din Winnie's the alternative.
Speaker 1: Sure something, And maybe that's something. And free agency hasn't
Speaker 1: happened yet, and they obviously will you know, add some
Speaker 1: some pieces. They will add some things. I understand that,
Speaker 1: but I I do not think it is rational to
Speaker 1: expect the MAVs this next year with Kyrie playing. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I would say thirty games at best, And
Speaker 1: I would take the strong under on that with Anthony Davis.
Speaker 1: And you know, if you if you right now as
Speaker 1: a MAVs fan, if you were like, hey, eighty is
Speaker 1: gonna play sixty five games on the nose, you would
Speaker 1: be like take it, like, you know, I'll sign up
Speaker 1: for that immediately. And with Cooper Flag being the youngest
Speaker 1: kid in this draft class, and you know, having a
Speaker 1: lot on his plate. I don't think in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: this coming season, the MAVs are contenders. I do think
Speaker 1: that if Kyrie comes back from that knee injury and
Speaker 1: looks like he did before the knee injury, and Cooper
Speaker 1: Flag is the guy that a lot of people think
Speaker 1: he can be that in the season after this one,
Speaker 1: they can be really good. So I don't. If I
Speaker 1: am power ranking the West going into this coming season,
Speaker 1: I personally would power rank it thunder Rockets, Lakers with
Speaker 1: an asterisk, the asterisk being I'm assuming they are going
Speaker 1: to add a major piece in the next ten days. Nuggets,
Speaker 1: Minnesota four five, Golden State six, and then Dallas alongside
Speaker 1: the Clipper Clippers seven eight. That's where that's where I
Speaker 1: think they will be for next year. Now, in two years,
Speaker 1: I think that could be different. And that does not,
Speaker 1: by the way, take into account much of what the
Speaker 1: Spurs can potentially be. And so let's get to the
Speaker 1: Spurs here. Demonse.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so everybody figured he was going to go number
Speaker 2: two to the Spurs, but nobody else but oh Dylan Harper,
Speaker 2: Sorry I specific, but they still have.
Speaker 3: Harper, Castle and Fox. What is do you think they're
Speaker 3: going to trade something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so here listen. It's an interesting triumvirn of guards
Speaker 1: because I like them all, but they all not only
Speaker 1: have kind of, at least at the moment, a weakness,
Speaker 1: but it's all the same weakness, which is, they all
Speaker 1: like to do most of their damage inside the three
Speaker 1: point arc. And none of them are great perimeter shooters.
Speaker 1: Castle and again Castle, these guys are young. Fox isn't
Speaker 1: Fox is thirty three percent for his career, Castle last
Speaker 1: year twenty eight percent. Dylan Harper at Rutgers was not
Speaker 1: a was not great from three himself, and so and
Speaker 1: I'm pulling it up right now, or at least I'm
Speaker 1: much okay. They switched it to his pro stats. At
Speaker 1: Rutgers he was thirty three percent. So those three guys
Speaker 1: having you can play a three guard lineup at times
Speaker 1: you cannot play a three guard non shooting lineup. I
Speaker 1: also think the Spur so Dylan Harper was a no
Speaker 1: doubt gotta pick him guy at number two. I also
Speaker 1: think the Spurs are really going to ease in to
Speaker 1: the Wimby era. They're gonna let Harper, Fox and Castle
Speaker 1: compete try different things. And one of those guys is
Speaker 1: going to be a key piece in a major trade
Speaker 1: like that? Is that I am very confident in now.
Speaker 1: I think they would love to pair Harper alongside Wimby
Speaker 1: for the next ten years. But if Yiannis were to
Speaker 1: come available and the Bucks want Harper, then you trade
Speaker 1: the Bucks Harper like if a and if Joannis doesn't
Speaker 1: come available, but a different tier type of guy does,
Speaker 1: and who would that be? Katie just got traded. There's
Speaker 1: the top tier guys who are just not coming available.
Speaker 1: Let me pull up my latest King of the Hill
Speaker 1: just as a quick, uh kind of a shorthand for
Speaker 1: me of the best players in the league. So Yo
Speaker 1: Kic's not coming well, I mean, yo, we don't think
Speaker 1: yoj coming available. Josh Cronky's like, we don't want to
Speaker 1: trade him, but you know, shit happens. So who's a
Speaker 1: good example. Okay, here's a great one. Let's say Devin
Speaker 1: Booker has a change of heart after another shit year
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. It's like, you know what, I can get
Speaker 1: my cars shipped to Texas and I I want to
Speaker 1: play in big games. I played in the finals as
Speaker 1: a kid, and that you know, next level star player,
Speaker 1: but not yoh, honest, then you maybe you don't have
Speaker 1: to trade Harper in that, but you trade Castle and
Speaker 1: Fox like there's different You have now I think three
Speaker 1: legitimate assets that other teams would want to varying degrees like.
Speaker 1: And now the tricky thing is on the Fox point.
Speaker 1: This is am I right about this? Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: the last year of his deal. So the other thing
Speaker 1: that could happen is that Fox walks after this year.
Speaker 1: I would imagine that's not how this plays. I would
Speaker 1: imagine that they would try to, you know, pally move
Speaker 1: Fox at the deadline if need be, so they get
Speaker 1: something back from him. But they have Castle and Harper
Speaker 1: on rookie deals. They will see how all of them
Speaker 1: play next to Wimby. But the Spurs right now are
Speaker 1: in a I think a very good position, but a
Speaker 1: unique position because their four most valuable assets or players
Speaker 1: are all guys who like to shoot, except for Castle
Speaker 1: is not a big shooter, like to shoot threes, and
Speaker 1: I'm including Wimby in this, and none of them are
Speaker 1: guys who are that good at shooting threes.
Speaker 3: So the say it again, He says, you got to
Speaker 3: take Wimby out. Then you said, not good? What do
Speaker 3: you mean he's not terrible? I like Winby shooting threes.
Speaker 1: Wimby doesn't need to shoot nine threes a game. Shooting
Speaker 1: nine a game. I mean, I like Wimby's a Wimby's
Speaker 1: shot diet and I don't like that term, but it's
Speaker 1: become like a new term. Shot Diet needs to get
Speaker 1: needs to reflect a little bit more that he's the
Speaker 1: tallest guy on the court by six inches most of
Speaker 1: the time. And so I the the spurs you take, Harper,
Speaker 1: you figure it out later, but you don't. Those three
Speaker 1: guys are not going to be there, you know, forever
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Speaker 3: Yeah, RULESAI, what about Devin vessel.
Speaker 1: Vecell, So listen, I the no all good? I yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's right now. I think their fifth most
Speaker 1: valuable piece, if you will, like he is, Wimby is
Speaker 1: their most valuable piece with a bullet huge gap, and
Speaker 1: then Dylan Harper is now their second most valuable piece
Speaker 1: with a bullet huge gap. And then Castle Fox is
Speaker 1: kind of eye of the beholder. I don't think Castle
Speaker 1: will ever be as good as Dearn Fox. But dude,
Speaker 1: is the fact that Castle is so much younger and
Speaker 1: for at least the next three years on such a
Speaker 1: great contract, and Fox is a guy you're probably gonna
Speaker 1: have to max out, you know, or come close to
Speaker 1: it a year from now. Does that make him more
Speaker 1: valuable than to that team than to others or you know,
Speaker 1: two different teams. And so I think that I think
Speaker 1: the Spurs have very interesting choices ahead of them, but
Speaker 1: I'm very confident that their long term plan is not
Speaker 1: Castle Fox Harper. I also think it's totally fair, and
Speaker 1: it's not totally fair. I know I'm right. When they
Speaker 1: traded for Fox, they didn't think they were gonna get
Speaker 1: the second pick of the draft. When they traded for Fox,
Speaker 1: Wmby was still healthy. They were fighting to get to
Speaker 1: play in They didn't think, you know, we're our point
Speaker 1: guard of the next decade is gonna be taken care
Speaker 1: of in this draft. In Dylan Harper, it's just how
Speaker 1: it turned out, all right, Let's get to the rest
Speaker 1: of the West, demase, So.
Speaker 2: The West is as dangerous as ever. Obviously, Katie just
Speaker 2: went to the Rockets. It's gonna be the Lakers first
Speaker 2: full season with Luca, and teams like Spurs and the
Speaker 2: MAVs could take the leap.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Who are the best players? Who are the real
Speaker 3: players in the West?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So listen. I did this a bit on I
Speaker 1: think there is a it's clearly Oklahoma City at the top,
Speaker 1: but I think the next best two teams are the
Speaker 1: Rockets and the Lakers. And I the LUCA over correction.
Speaker 1: Negativity has gone too far. And I did this on
Speaker 1: the TV show yesterday. I just want to reiterate it.
Speaker 1: Luca five best players in the league. Okay, Joker is thirty,
Speaker 1: he won his title at twenty eight. Giannis is thirty,
Speaker 1: he won his title at twenty six. Tatum is twenty seven.
Speaker 1: He won his title at twenty six. Shay is twenty six,
Speaker 1: turns twenty seven in two weeks. He just won the title.
Speaker 1: Luca the youngest of all of them, twenty six, will
Speaker 1: be twenty six during the first couple months of next season.
Speaker 1: The idea that he is behind schedule or off schedule
Speaker 1: is incorrect right now, Shae understandably, his star could not
Speaker 1: be shining brighter. I get that, and he deserves it. However,
Speaker 1: and we also can't compare Luca and Shae career numbers
Speaker 1: because Luca was good instantly and Shae grew into it.
Speaker 1: So if we simply just take the last two years
Speaker 1: for Shay, which are far and away the best two
Speaker 1: years of his career, and compare them to the last
Speaker 1: two years for Luca, which includes far and away the
Speaker 1: worst year of his career. This past year, the numbers
Speaker 1: are identical. Playoffs and regular season identical, except for Luca
Speaker 1: beats him in assists considerably and rebounds by a bit,
Speaker 1: but the scoring and efficiencies are nearly identical. One guy
Speaker 1: made the finals demanse and lost to a team some
Speaker 1: people thought was going to turn into a dynasty in Boston.
Speaker 1: The other guy made the finals and went seven with
Speaker 1: a team people thought was the most unlikely finalist in
Speaker 1: modern NBA history. So to add like, I don't think
Speaker 1: it's fair to be like, well, you can win with
Speaker 1: one guy, you can't win with the other. Now, Shay
Speaker 1: is coming off as best year, Lucas coming off his worst.
Speaker 1: That's undeniable, but it is there's too big of a
Speaker 1: discussion gap amongst the two. So that's one of the
Speaker 1: reasons that I am a believer in the Lakers, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this in reverse order three two. One
Speaker 1: second reason I'm a believer in the Lakers is I
Speaker 1: do think they are going to make a substantial move
Speaker 1: in the next week. I think they are going to
Speaker 1: address some of their roster holes, and I think they
Speaker 1: have the assets to do it. And the last reason
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in the Lakers is, let me call
Speaker 1: it a informed opinion that people that think Lebron is
Speaker 1: resigned to the idea that he's not like that making
Speaker 1: finals and competing for championships, that that phase of his
Speaker 1: career is over, are unabashedly, unequivocally wrong. Now, maybe if
Speaker 1: your opinion is whatever he thinks is going on, you
Speaker 1: know doesn't matter, you know that phase is over. That's
Speaker 1: an opinion and you're allowed to have. But if you
Speaker 1: think Lebron is like, Okay, at this point, it's just
Speaker 1: about playing with my son, you know, at some point
Speaker 1: having a farewell tour. I love the game. You can
Speaker 1: debt that right now. And I think these finals and
Speaker 1: watching Oklahoma City struggle with Indiana and watching what these
Speaker 1: finals looked like. Only Surge emboldened Lebron to feel like
Speaker 1: I can get back there. And so if you have
Speaker 1: Chip on his shoulder, Luca wants one last dance at
Speaker 1: some point deep in the postseason. Lebron and some slight
Speaker 1: roster tweaking, that to me makes the Lakers a contender.
Speaker 3: You think Austin Reeves is there next year?
Speaker 1: Probably not, maybe at the beginning, probably not through the year.
Speaker 1: I just think Austin Reeves he's your most valuable, tradable asset,
Speaker 1: and because of Luca, he's a little redundant. When you
Speaker 1: have Anthony Davis there, Austin Reeves is critical because without
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, your only creators the oldest guy in the
Speaker 1: league and Lebron. But with Luca there, he becomes. And
Speaker 1: I really like Austin. I you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The I was the first person tell you Austin Rives
Speaker 1: better than Bradley Beal. Everybody called me crazy, but I
Speaker 1: just think sometimes he is right now a luxury and
Speaker 1: the Lakers have some necessities. So I would put if
Speaker 1: I were stacking it, I should have started. I think
Speaker 1: the Nuggets, I should have said included them. I think
Speaker 1: they are a real player based off the strength of
Speaker 1: Yokich alone, and I think they will, you know, manicure
Speaker 1: around the edges, and maybe they were over Michael Malone
Speaker 1: and maybe what we saw them do in the playoffs
Speaker 1: under Adlman is something sustainable. And then we see Michael
Speaker 1: Porter Junior come back healthy and Aaron Gordon come back healthy.
Speaker 1: So I'd have them for Lakers three. The Rockets, to
Speaker 1: me are they can win the championship. And I say
Speaker 1: this with no disrespect du to Oklahoma City at all,
Speaker 1: but man a Lakers Rockets Western Conference Finals, which I
Speaker 1: think check me on this, producers. I think we got
Speaker 1: that once in league history, and it was nineteen eighty six,
Speaker 1: a team's second year, when everyone thought we were gonna
Speaker 1: get Lakers Celtics in the finals. Again, I know the Lakers.
Speaker 1: The Rockets beat the Lakers in the playoffs in nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty six. I think it was the conference finals and
Speaker 1: the the Lakers.
Speaker 3: Okay, the hold on the Lakers won the series.
Speaker 1: Though, hold on a second that that's wrong. I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you right now.
Speaker 3: The the you asked the producer, I'm.
Speaker 1: Telling you right now. I'm telling you right now that
Speaker 1: reads to me. I'm about to be This is a
Speaker 1: good lesson for everybody. PA pause the show, but stay
Speaker 1: on the air. What they just put in the doc
Speaker 1: reads like it was some AI bot wrote it one
Speaker 1: thousand percent. It's what it reads like. And I'm here
Speaker 1: telling you that AI bot doesn't know what the hell
Speaker 1: it's talking about.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now you cannot trust the AI
Speaker 1: chat bots when it comes to uh sports history. So
Speaker 1: I'm just the I'm gonna do my thing here.
Speaker 3: Am I gonna get good here?
Speaker 1: Oh? Wait?
Speaker 3: No, it says uh nineteen City versus Houston.
Speaker 1: Okay, everybody stopped? Does everybody stop for a second?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 1: The the in nineteen eighty six the NBA Finals, without
Speaker 1: a shadow of a doubt, guys, were the eighty six
Speaker 1: Celtics maybe the greatest team ever against the chem Olajuan
Speaker 1: Ralph Sampson Rockets. That is not up for debate. So
Speaker 1: the I my question was was the conference finals Lakers Rockets?
Speaker 3: All?
Speaker 1: Look that up? The Rockets beat the Lakers in the
Speaker 1: Conference finals. For one, guys, audience, AI chatbots don't fucking
Speaker 1: know sports. I'm telling you right now, ask like when
Speaker 1: you're done with the done with the show, ask an
Speaker 1: AI chatbot, like very basic things like tell me the
Speaker 1: top ten running backs in the NFL right now, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna spit at you, Adrian Peterson like. So it's
Speaker 1: just maybe they're good for some term papers, but they're
Speaker 1: not good with sports. So the the Rockets have played
Speaker 1: the Lakers in I the conference finals, I believe that's
Speaker 1: the only time. I believe it's nineteen eighty six. I
Speaker 1: know they I am looking at it now. I know they
Speaker 1: played in nineteen eighty six, but I think that's the
Speaker 1: only time. Sorry for the sidebar point, I was trying
Speaker 1: to make it with no respect to Oklahoma City. A
Speaker 1: Durant Lebron conference finals, which we've never gotten by the way,
Speaker 1: we got it, and a Durant Lebron playoff series that
Speaker 1: felt like a fair fight, which we've only gotten once ever,
Speaker 1: in the twenty twelve NBA Finals, which I know listen
Speaker 1: Bron won in five. But that was a great series
Speaker 1: until Game five. Like those first four games all were
Speaker 1: in the balance in the fourth quarter, and you can
Speaker 1: say that wasn't a fair fight because the heat were
Speaker 1: veterans and the Thunder were young. A fun fact that
Speaker 1: no one believes, but it is true. Twenty the Heat
Speaker 1: over the MAVs they lost in twenty eleven. The Heat
Speaker 1: were the same size favorite over the MAVs in twenty eleven,
Speaker 1: minus won seventy five as the Thunder were over the Heat.
Speaker 1: When the Heat won their first title with Lebron and
Speaker 1: Wade in twenty twelve, the Thunder were minus won seventy
Speaker 1: five favorites going into those finals because the Heat, remember
Speaker 1: they had lost the year before, and they had damn
Speaker 1: near lost to Boston, and the Thunder had just like
Speaker 1: exploded onto the scene and become this seemingly unstoppable force
Speaker 1: of nature. Again, this is off top of my head,
Speaker 1: but the that Thunder team in the conference finals played
Speaker 1: the Spurs, who the Spurs had won demons the final
Speaker 1: ten games of the regular season and then were ten
Speaker 1: to zero in the playoffs, up two to zero in
Speaker 1: the conference finals on a twin any game winning streak
Speaker 1: and then the Thunder one four straight and made the
Speaker 1: finals like that Thunder team. It was like, holy shitty, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so it was really a remarkable thing. But okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: we're way off topic. The point I'm trying to make
Speaker 1: is I think the Rockets have all the pieces you
Speaker 1: need if Durant stays healthy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like Shingoon as the fulcrum of the offense. I
Speaker 1: like that Durant ads scoring. I think they're gonna get
Speaker 1: more from Shephard. I think Udoaka is excellent. I like
Speaker 1: all of it. And then there's Oklahoma City that has
Speaker 1: everyone coming back and everyone but Crusoe is super young
Speaker 1: and should only get better. But there's a lot of
Speaker 1: plays to balance there. One hundred and five game season.
Speaker 1: Are you satisfied after a championship? You know, does the
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City got lucky? All putting quotes that the injury
Speaker 1: bug hit them early instead of late, Like, it's not
Speaker 1: right to say Oklahoma City, you know, had great injury
Speaker 1: luck this year. They you know, key players missed real time,
Speaker 1: but they suffered it early in the year instead of
Speaker 1: going into the postseason.
Speaker 3: So type of man for Katie with the Rockets.
Speaker 2: You know, the Rockets already being a nice team, them
Speaker 2: trying to mitigate his injuries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and no, I would. I think you've got
Speaker 1: to be careful with a guy who's thirty seven. I
Speaker 1: don't think that they're going to put him on like
Speaker 1: a sixty game plan. And I also think for a
Speaker 1: lot of these legends, they want to be eligible for
Speaker 1: the awards, and that sixty five game marker is like
Speaker 1: they they want KD. I'm sure is I bet KD
Speaker 1: is pissed that he was not eligible for All NBA
Speaker 1: this year. It's like I played sixty two games, I
Speaker 1: was All NBA caliber and so yet you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So that's what I think they'll do, all right,
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Speaker 1: Let's quickly get through some of this other stuff before
Speaker 1: I got to go.
Speaker 2: So we talked about the Halliburton Achilles injury on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Dame and Tatum had the same injury in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: and a handful of other guys like Jontae Morey who
Speaker 2: tour his during the regular season. So you're obviously not
Speaker 2: a doctor, but what do you think of the uptick
Speaker 2: of the Achilles injuries in the NBA?
Speaker 1: So this used to be an old guy injury, It
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be that anymore, Like people suffered Achilles
Speaker 1: tears that were old pro athletes or sorry people in
Speaker 1: your situation, pal, where it's like guys who just didn't
Speaker 1: do yeah time off, didn't do like you know, didn't
Speaker 1: stretch or you do everything. But it wasn't young prime.
Speaker 1: It wasn't people your age, like when you suffered yours
Speaker 1: who also played basketball at he you know what I mean, right,
Speaker 1: and had professional trainers and all of that. And so
Speaker 1: I have heard a bunch of different theories. I don't
Speaker 1: I this is not my theory, and I would credit
Speaker 1: the person whose it is, but I heard it secondhand,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if this person wanted their name
Speaker 1: associated with it. But I think it's a fast and
Speaker 1: eating theory, and that theory is the shoes are too good.
Speaker 1: The theory being that in the past you slid a
Speaker 1: bit when you planted, your shoes gave a little, and
Speaker 1: now the grip on the bottom and the tightness in
Speaker 1: how they work, that the shoes don't give at all,
Speaker 1: and so the pressure puts on your joints and everything else.
Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. I heard Doc Rivers talk about
Speaker 1: how guys used to just play all the year round
Speaker 1: on blacktop and everything, and because of that, their knees went,
Speaker 1: but their achilles and everything was fine. Obviously a huge
Speaker 1: part of it is, while the season's always been eighty
Speaker 1: two games, the amount of movement you have to do,
Speaker 1: particularly on defense, and with how spread out the game is,
Speaker 1: there's just so much more start stop, that puts pressure
Speaker 1: on it. I know some people have questioned if it's
Speaker 1: about guys specializing in things. I saw a pretty interesting
Speaker 1: negative Twitter video.
Speaker 3: Say it again, the negative step or different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's exactly what I was gonna say. We
Speaker 1: must see the same thing that like this, this, like
Speaker 1: net what they called a negative step, like this backward
Speaker 1: step to get going is not something that used to
Speaker 1: be done. And it's how a bunch of these are happening.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I do know that I truly
Speaker 1: believe this needs to be at the forefront of Adam
Speaker 1: Silver's agenda for the next eighteen months because you cannot
Speaker 1: have the achilles in the NBA become Tommy john in baseball,
Speaker 1: where it's just oh yeah, this half dozen guys are
Speaker 1: out twelve to eighteen months with an achilles, and particularly
Speaker 1: because baseball you have you know, the numbers are just
Speaker 1: so you have more players, you have more pitchers, the
Speaker 1: numbers are different.
Speaker 2: But god, I don't know if we ever talked about
Speaker 2: it on Tuesday, but do you think, like now, if
Speaker 2: a player feels like calf tightness, it's like an instant
Speaker 2: three months out, Like it's just like.
Speaker 1: Not three months but I I think it's three to four.
Speaker 1: What I was told by a long tenured NBA player
Speaker 1: was a calf strain you have to simply take a
Speaker 1: month off, and even if you feel like you can play,
Speaker 1: the only way it heals is if you simply rest
Speaker 1: it for a month. And I that seems dramatic. Now.
Speaker 1: The other the other piece of this that I would
Speaker 1: say is figuring out what leads to calf strains and
Speaker 1: how to prevent those. And some of that is preventative,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like I know that, and again I don't know.
Speaker 1: What I do know is that most soft tissue injuries,
Speaker 1: not all, most are preventable, like hamstrings, groins, quads. Usually
Speaker 1: those are. It is guys who regularly have them are
Speaker 1: not doing all the things they need to do. I
Speaker 1: don't know how calves work. I really don't.
Speaker 2: Man in the NBA now mandatory joga, I don't know
Speaker 2: for the guard.
Speaker 1: But it is, but it is. It's stunning that this
Speaker 1: is where we're at. And I thought Jay Caspi and
Speaker 1: Kang had a really interesting tweet where he was like
Speaker 1: the majority of people watching the finals have no idea
Speaker 1: if they're watching zone or man de man defense but
Speaker 1: they all know what an achilles tear looks like. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, that's right, Like we can all diagnose
Speaker 1: from TV. Oh wow, look, yeah there was that thing
Speaker 1: where you saw it snap up, go back. We're like, yep,
Speaker 1: we know what that is. And that is in a Again,
Speaker 1: this is not apples to apples obviously, but the same
Speaker 1: way we know watching football when a guy the fencing posture,
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, that's a concussion, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like we just we know it. And so John in
Speaker 1: the chat says, more players now than ever wear low
Speaker 1: top shoes. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: do know that this should be a top top priority
Speaker 1: for the league because the only year, the only I'll
Speaker 1: take the NFL, which seemingly is a ratings you know,
Speaker 1: not seemingly is a ratings behemoth, unstoppable for us. The
Speaker 1: only year of the NFL had real ratings you know,
Speaker 1: issues is the wrong word, but dips was the year
Speaker 1: all those quarterbacks got hurt. People. There there is a
Speaker 1: star and there's no league where the star power matters
Speaker 1: more than the NBA. And out you know, the achilles
Speaker 1: not a quick one either, Like what has changed is
Speaker 1: we have seen guys come back and be as good
Speaker 1: as they were. What has not changed is it's twelve
Speaker 1: to eighteen months. You look at me skeptical about as
Speaker 1: good as they were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say, I think it's actually
Speaker 2: been pretty rare. But the guys Katie's like the only
Speaker 2: person I think that's torn as Achilles recently that like
Speaker 2: came back and was the same or a little bit
Speaker 2: better than when here Achilles.
Speaker 1: So no, that's fair. But again in the past that
Speaker 1: it was old guys, so you'dn't expect him to be better.
Speaker 1: The only other like Star that I'm thinking of that
Speaker 1: we've seen the full run of other than KD is Clay.
Speaker 1: But Clay suffered multiple catastrophicyuries in the same lay, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's a different situation. I
Speaker 1: do think Tatum will be like old Tatum. I do.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, But but what doesn't What hasn't changed,
Speaker 1: demon'say is oh and now you're back in six months, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's not that's not been the case. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's go to Joker real quick before we.
Speaker 2: Go, uh So, Nuggets president Josh Crockey had some interesting
Speaker 2: things to say.
Speaker 3: So, Yeah, he says, I think that.
Speaker 2: There are rules around it that we need to be
Speaker 2: very careful of with our injury history. The wrong person
Speaker 2: gets injured, and very quickly you're into a scenario that
Speaker 2: I never want to contemplate, and that's trading number fifteen.
Speaker 2: So he tried to clarify that they do plan on
Speaker 2: extending him. But what will be the purpose in saying
Speaker 2: something like this.
Speaker 1: I think it's a big mistake. I think he made
Speaker 1: a big mistake. And I when I say a big mistake,
Speaker 1: I don't mean like you can't recover from it. But
Speaker 1: I think it is a significant mistake that he needs
Speaker 1: to clean up with Joker Joker right, because what he's
Speaker 1: talking about. If I'm Joker and I guess off my
Speaker 1: horse and somebody shows me this clip, I reason, I
Speaker 1: think it's totally reasonable for him to be like, hold
Speaker 1: on a second, what you're saying there is are you
Speaker 1: telling me there is a scenario where I want to
Speaker 1: be a nugget and you guys decide you're trading me?
Speaker 1: Because I didn't think that's the deal we had. I
Speaker 1: thought the deal we had was as long as I
Speaker 1: want to be here, I will be here and and
Speaker 1: so like the and I know Kronky's like it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's only a catastrophe whatever. Like if I'm Joker, I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's not how this works. Just so you know, the
Speaker 1: way this works is the only way you guys trade
Speaker 1: me is if I come to you and say trade me.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I expect if I do that
Speaker 1: for you guys to be like please please, mister Joker
Speaker 1: or no, like no, no, no, and so uh I
Speaker 1: the you can ask the follow up here if you'd like.
Speaker 2: On a scale one to ten, how scared your producer
Speaker 2: Daniel will be about the Nuggets messing this up somehow?
Speaker 1: Well, I I think they've already kind of messed it
Speaker 1: up over the last couple of years and not really
Speaker 1: letting him defend his title in full. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're going to trade Joker, but I do think that
Speaker 1: they need to tighten up, Like I just think they
Speaker 1: need to tighten up. Argent says, should the Bucks trade
Speaker 1: be honest for jokers? Straight up? Denver would not do that?
Speaker 1: The Bucks would do that, like the I think that
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 3: There are what would they for jokers? Straight up? The
Speaker 3: Bucks would would take Joker over you honest.
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, because of the contract. I do think Jokers
Speaker 1: are slightly better player at this point, and because they
Speaker 1: might have to trade Giannis anyways either way, and they
Speaker 1: don't have their own pick so they can't tank. I
Speaker 1: think there are right now. I think there are three
Speaker 1: players that teams would not trade straight up for Giannis, Joker, Shay,
Speaker 1: and Luca. And it's not to say, by the way,
Speaker 1: Shay and Luca are better than Yannis. I don't actually
Speaker 1: think they are necessarily. I'm just telling you because of
Speaker 1: the age difference, and Shay obviously just won the title
Speaker 1: of that stuff, they wouldn't trade him them for for Joker. Oh,
Speaker 1: Wimby as well, Thank you, Daniel Wimby as well. Wimby.
Speaker 1: I didn't think about that because you couldn't trade him
Speaker 1: straight up because the salaries. But yeah, Wimby, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think san Antonio would trade Wimby for Joker.
Speaker 1: I think Jokers like that's an interest. I don't think
Speaker 1: they would. Maybe they would, but I don't think they would.
Speaker 1: All right, let's do Aaron Rodgers real quick for it.
Speaker 1: We get to the listener questions.
Speaker 2: He's hinting at retirement against that time of year, he said,
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that this is my last season. That's
Speaker 2: why I just did a one year deal. Do you
Speaker 2: believe him?
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I do think this is Aaron
Speaker 1: rodgers last year. I also do not think Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is a credible narrator, and I think the media needs
Speaker 1: stop treating him like a credible narrator, even of his
Speaker 1: own life, because within five minutes of him saying I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure this is my last season, he also said, paraphrasing,
Speaker 1: he doesn't like being in the public eye, and when
Speaker 1: he's done playing football, he won't be in the public
Speaker 1: eye anymore. And the only reason he is in the
Speaker 1: public eye is because he's playing football, which is just
Speaker 1: an uproarious comment from a guy who, in the last
Speaker 1: thirty six months has tried to become the full time
Speaker 1: host of Jeopardy when that did not work out, flirted
Speaker 1: with becoming the vice president of the United States. And
Speaker 1: one of the reasons we know about those things is
Speaker 1: because they were discussed in the documentary about Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: produced by Aaron Rodgers. Like Nothing screams whoa, whoa, WHOA?
Speaker 1: I hate this intention, like you personally paying a camera
Speaker 1: crew to follow you around to create a movie about you. Like,
Speaker 1: So I just don't. I don't find him to be
Speaker 1: a credible narrator of his own events. And also, and
Speaker 1: I'm just going to wink at this, do you guys,
Speaker 1: remember when Aaron Rodd was asked, of course you do,
Speaker 1: because he thinks this is the end all, be all
Speaker 1: of any issue anyone could possibly have with him. Is
Speaker 1: this one comment? Because God knows, he hasn't done anything else.
Speaker 1: Wildly aggravating when he was asked if he had gotten
Speaker 1: the vaccine and he said, yeah, I've been, I've been well,
Speaker 1: he didn't say hey, he said I've been immunized. And
Speaker 1: then he was like, I didn't lie to you, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying anything I am saying. There
Speaker 1: was a very similar turn of phrase about at his
Speaker 1: introductory press conference about his wedding ring that I found interesting,
Speaker 1: that's all. I just found it interesting. And so I
Speaker 1: just don't find Aaron to be a reliable narrator of
Speaker 1: events you care to share. Well, he was asked what
Speaker 1: he was wearing and he said, it's a wedding ring
Speaker 1: or somebody said, is that a wedding ring? And he
Speaker 1: said yes, But I I know, I know what for
Speaker 1: everyone else that would mean. I also know that it
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily be a lie.
Speaker 3: I'm not married.
Speaker 1: Again, I didn't say I didn't say all that. I'm
Speaker 1: just simply saying that it's that's all. That's all that
Speaker 1: he said. And so I find I find all that fascinating.
Speaker 1: But again, I'm sure Aaron hates this because he hates
Speaker 1: the attention. All right, let's do some listener questions real quick.
Speaker 3: Mary asked, isn't there a snake watcher like for dogs
Speaker 3: and kids?
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you have to let someone in your apartment.
Speaker 1: We didn't set this up the other time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't. I don't think there's Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I really appreciate that, Mary, But yeah, I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of banking on the week being gone.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not gonna spread. I'm gonna check on
Speaker 3: every the day before.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. And also
Speaker 2: I have homies out here. If it really comes down
Speaker 2: to it, of course, But uh, and Noah asks which
Speaker 2: Western conference big versus Guard is more likely to be
Speaker 2: the new Kobe versus Duncan for this era, Wimby versus
Speaker 2: SGA or Wimby versus Luca.
Speaker 1: I mean I would say Wimby versus Luca, but I'm
Speaker 1: again I'm a Luca guy. The All right, let's go
Speaker 1: to John and then we gotta get out of here.
Speaker 3: John ass who do you see flag behind?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: Or who do you see flag being? Like in the future,
Speaker 2: I feel like he gets better defensively. We got another pivot.
Speaker 1: Listen, Scottie Pippens one of the greatest perimeter defenders of
Speaker 1: all time. That's to me too big of an but
Speaker 1: he also should be a better offensive player than Pippen.
Speaker 1: So like who is who is the the the I
Speaker 1: don't know. I I don't know what the comp We
Speaker 1: don't need to read that last one. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the comp is for Flag. I do. I know
Speaker 1: that they're gonna hope he can be a you know,
Speaker 1: a do it all point forward type. But I think
Speaker 1: people throw around the Pippen defensive uh comps to Willy
Speaker 1: Nilly like the like Jada Jalen Williams for the thunder
Speaker 1: he should he might end up. He already has had
Speaker 1: a better offensive single playoff game than Pippen had his
Speaker 1: whole career. But Jalen Willis will never be Scotty Pippen defensively. Scotty,
Speaker 1: I mean Scotty Pippen had a multi year stretch where
Speaker 1: he was every year either best, second or third best
Speaker 1: perimeter defender in the league. Like that's to me, too
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