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Speaker 1: Welcome in. We'll Drive with Nick Wright episode three five

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Speaker 1: and this episode as always of What's Right with Nick Right,

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Speaker 1: as presented by our friends at boost Mobile. This is

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Speaker 1: our last show until after the fourth of July. I

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Speaker 1: will leave from here to go do the TV show

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Speaker 1: and then head out west for family reunion and then

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Speaker 1: head further west for a vacation with my wife and kids.

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Speaker 1: So we did a long draft show last night. We

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Speaker 1: will do a full draft recap show here today, hit

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Speaker 1: on some other things, potentially get to that Rogers story

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Speaker 1: that broke after our show on Tuesday, and then I'm

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Speaker 1: gone after first things first today. So but this is

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Speaker 1: kind of the right time of year to be gone.

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Speaker 1: Maybe miss the very beginning of NBA free agency, maybe

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Speaker 1: miss a potential Lakers trade. But aside from that, we

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Speaker 1: should be good. Demandsay, good to see you, Howard. All

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Speaker 1: six eggs for the Snakes still doing okay.

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Speaker 2: stuff you mean? He's great?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't even know mold was a thing. This

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Speaker 1: But there you go. And luckily we've got just bring

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Speaker 1: very confident in that. Right now, before we get to

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Speaker 1: want me so every once in a while of the producers,

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Speaker 1: that happened. The Pelicans in Washington trade CJ. McCollum for

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the draft itself.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So the draft was last night and you were

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Speaker 2: There were some crazy moments in there, and one of

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Speaker 3: And here's your reaction to it.

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Speaker 1: Did New Orleans just ear Muff's kids? Nor Orlean's just

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Speaker 1: fucking traded away their next year's first round pick unprotected

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Speaker 2: Another one was Brooklyn using all five picks in Portland,

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Speaker 1: My single biggest takeaway was what New Orleans did. And listen,

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Speaker 1: is it's one of the craziest damn things I've ever

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Speaker 1: One is Jeremiah Fears of high offensive upside, very questionable defender,

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Speaker 1: kind of Jordan Poole, who New Orleans just tray for

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Speaker 1: Would I have done this trade demonse if it were

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Speaker 1: because New Orleans already had seven, But you understand what

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Speaker 1: I mean. I wouldn't have done that. So I think

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Speaker 1: this will go down. We have to see, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think this will be like the Hawks trading Luca

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Speaker 1: I don't know, right, So you trade for Pool, your draft,

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Speaker 1: Fears you have Zion.

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Speaker 2: And you've already seen what Pool and Zion are kind

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Speaker 1: I don't yes, I mean, it's clearly something like that, Demante,

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Speaker 1: the the odds for team futures. Can we I just

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Speaker 1: New Orleans. There are I mean, that's the West is

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Speaker 1: so funny. There are nine teams that are twenty five

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Speaker 1: Those nine teams won through nine or twenty five to one.

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Speaker 1: All right, demonte, let's get to the top pick of

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Speaker 2: So, as expected, the MAVs took Cooper Flag with the

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Speaker 1: Do you think they are?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I was just telling the guys this morning.

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Speaker 2: but the way that Luca was looking in the playoffs

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Speaker 3: And I like that team.

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Speaker 2: Like if Cooper Flag pans out nicely, I hate that

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Speaker 1: So so that let's talk about the Nico piece of

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Speaker 1: get to Trey Luca hold a press conference saying we

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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's the real question is do they And

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City's biggest competitor. I disagree. And the reason I

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Speaker 1: He is not creating. Anthony Davis is awesome. He is

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Speaker 3: He is. He's just not good at creating shots.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't Dinwitt, Am I wrong? I thought Dinwitty

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Speaker 1: I think Dinwitty right now is the Uh. Maybe they

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Speaker 1: Like he he can be a microwave offense, but he is.

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Speaker 2: He was about to say, if it's if it's for

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Speaker 2: the purpose of making it to where Cooper Flag isn't

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Speaker 1: Sure something, And maybe that's something. And free agency hasn't

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Speaker 1: but I I do not think it is rational to

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Speaker 1: don't know. I would say thirty games at best, And

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Speaker 1: I would take the strong under on that with Anthony Davis.

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Speaker 1: And you know, if you if you right now as

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Speaker 1: this coming season, the MAVs are contenders. I do think

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Speaker 1: Flag is the guy that a lot of people think

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Speaker 1: they can be really good. So I don't. If I

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Speaker 1: I personally would power rank it thunder Rockets, Lakers with

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Speaker 1: an asterisk, the asterisk being I'm assuming they are going

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Speaker 1: the Clipper Clippers seven eight. That's where that's where I

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Speaker 1: think they will be for next year. Now, in two years,

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Speaker 1: I think that could be different. And that does not,

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Speaker 1: Spurs here. Demonse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so everybody figured he was going to go number

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Speaker 2: two to the Spurs, but nobody else but oh Dylan Harper,

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Speaker 2: Sorry I specific, but they still have.

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Speaker 3: Harper, Castle and Fox. What is do you think they're

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Speaker 3: going to trade something.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so here listen. It's an interesting triumvirn of guards

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Speaker 1: but it's all the same weakness, which is, they all

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Speaker 1: point arc. And none of them are great perimeter shooters.

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Speaker 1: Castle and again Castle, these guys are young. Fox isn't

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Speaker 1: Fox is thirty three percent for his career, Castle last

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Speaker 1: year twenty eight percent. Dylan Harper at Rutgers was not

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Speaker 1: a was not great from three himself, and so and

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling it up right now, or at least I'm

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Speaker 1: much okay. They switched it to his pro stats. At

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Speaker 1: Rutgers he was thirty three percent. So those three guys

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Speaker 1: having you can play a three guard lineup at times

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Speaker 1: you cannot play a three guard non shooting lineup. I

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Speaker 1: also think the Spur so Dylan Harper was a no

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Speaker 1: doubt gotta pick him guy at number two. I also

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Speaker 1: think the Spurs are really going to ease in to

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Speaker 1: the Wimby era. They're gonna let Harper, Fox and Castle

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Speaker 1: compete try different things. And one of those guys is

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Speaker 1: going to be a key piece in a major trade

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Speaker 1: like that? Is that I am very confident in now.

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Speaker 1: I think they would love to pair Harper alongside Wimby

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Speaker 1: for the next ten years. But if Yiannis were to

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Speaker 1: come available and the Bucks want Harper, then you trade

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Speaker 1: the Bucks Harper like if a and if Joannis doesn't

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Speaker 1: come available, but a different tier type of guy does,

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Speaker 1: and who would that be? Katie just got traded. There's

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Speaker 1: the top tier guys who are just not coming available.

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Speaker 1: Let me pull up my latest King of the Hill

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Speaker 1: just as a quick, uh kind of a shorthand for

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Speaker 1: me of the best players in the league. So Yo

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Speaker 1: Kic's not coming well, I mean, yo, we don't think

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Speaker 1: yoj coming available. Josh Cronky's like, we don't want to

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Speaker 1: trade him, but you know, shit happens. So who's a

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Speaker 1: good example. Okay, here's a great one. Let's say Devin

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Speaker 1: Booker has a change of heart after another shit year

463
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Speaker 1: in Phoenix. It's like, you know what, I can get

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Speaker 1: my cars shipped to Texas and I I want to

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Speaker 1: play in big games. I played in the finals as

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Speaker 1: a kid, and that you know, next level star player,

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Speaker 1: but not yoh, honest, then you maybe you don't have

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Speaker 1: to trade Harper in that, but you trade Castle and

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Speaker 1: Fox like there's different You have now I think three

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Speaker 1: legitimate assets that other teams would want to varying degrees like.

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Speaker 1: And now the tricky thing is on the Fox point.

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Speaker 1: This is am I right about this? Yeah, this is

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Speaker 1: the last year of his deal. So the other thing

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Speaker 1: that could happen is that Fox walks after this year.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that's not how this plays. I would

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Speaker 1: imagine that they would try to, you know, pally move

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Speaker 1: Fox at the deadline if need be, so they get

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Speaker 1: something back from him. But they have Castle and Harper

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Speaker 1: on rookie deals. They will see how all of them

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Speaker 1: play next to Wimby. But the Spurs right now are

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Speaker 1: in a I think a very good position, but a

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Speaker 1: unique position because their four most valuable assets or players

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Speaker 1: are all guys who like to shoot, except for Castle

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Speaker 1: is not a big shooter, like to shoot threes, and

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Speaker 1: I'm including Wimby in this, and none of them are

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Speaker 1: guys who are that good at shooting threes.

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Speaker 3: So the say it again, He says, you got to

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Speaker 3: take Wimby out. Then you said, not good? What do

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Speaker 3: you mean he's not terrible? I like Winby shooting threes.

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Speaker 1: Wimby doesn't need to shoot nine threes a game. Shooting

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Speaker 1: nine a game. I mean, I like Wimby's a Wimby's

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Speaker 1: shot diet and I don't like that term, but it's

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Speaker 1: become like a new term. Shot Diet needs to get

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Speaker 1: needs to reflect a little bit more that he's the

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Speaker 1: tallest guy on the court by six inches most of

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Speaker 1: the time. And so I the the spurs you take, Harper,

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Speaker 1: you figure it out later, but you don't. Those three

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Speaker 1: guys are not going to be there, you know, forever

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Speaker 1: what I know? Oh, by the way, like, rate, subscribe, review.

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Speaker 1: subscribe to us on iTunes and Spotify. We have a

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Speaker 1: live question from someone watching on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, RULESAI, what about Devin vessel.

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Speaker 1: Vecell, So listen, I the no all good? I yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's right now. I think their fifth most

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Speaker 1: valuable piece, if you will, like he is, Wimby is

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Speaker 1: their most valuable piece with a bullet huge gap, and

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Speaker 1: then Dylan Harper is now their second most valuable piece

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Speaker 1: with a bullet huge gap. And then Castle Fox is

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Speaker 1: kind of eye of the beholder. I don't think Castle

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Speaker 1: will ever be as good as Dearn Fox. But dude,

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Speaker 1: is the fact that Castle is so much younger and

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Speaker 1: for at least the next three years on such a

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Speaker 1: great contract, and Fox is a guy you're probably gonna

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Speaker 1: have to max out, you know, or come close to

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Speaker 1: it a year from now. Does that make him more

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Speaker 1: valuable than to that team than to others or you know,

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Speaker 1: two different teams. And so I think that I think

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Speaker 1: the Spurs have very interesting choices ahead of them, but

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Speaker 1: I'm very confident that their long term plan is not

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Speaker 1: Castle Fox Harper. I also think it's totally fair, and

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Speaker 1: it's not totally fair. I know I'm right. When they

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Speaker 1: traded for Fox, they didn't think they were gonna get

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Speaker 1: the second pick of the draft. When they traded for Fox,

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Speaker 1: Wmby was still healthy. They were fighting to get to

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Speaker 1: play in They didn't think, you know, we're our point

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Speaker 1: guard of the next decade is gonna be taken care

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Speaker 1: of in this draft. In Dylan Harper, it's just how

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Speaker 1: it turned out, all right, Let's get to the rest

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Speaker 1: of the West, demase, So.

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Speaker 2: The West is as dangerous as ever. Obviously, Katie just

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Speaker 2: went to the Rockets. It's gonna be the Lakers first

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Speaker 2: full season with Luca, and teams like Spurs and the

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Speaker 2: MAVs could take the leap.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Who are the best players? Who are the real

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Speaker 3: players in the West?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So listen. I did this a bit on I

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Speaker 1: think there is a it's clearly Oklahoma City at the top,

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Speaker 1: but I think the next best two teams are the

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Speaker 1: Rockets and the Lakers. And I the LUCA over correction.

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Speaker 1: Negativity has gone too far. And I did this on

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Speaker 1: the TV show yesterday. I just want to reiterate it.

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Speaker 1: Luca five best players in the league. Okay, Joker is thirty,

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Speaker 1: he won his title at twenty eight. Giannis is thirty,

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Speaker 1: he won his title at twenty six. Tatum is twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: He won his title at twenty six. Shay is twenty six,

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Speaker 1: turns twenty seven in two weeks. He just won the title.

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Speaker 1: Luca the youngest of all of them, twenty six, will

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Speaker 1: be twenty six during the first couple months of next season.

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Speaker 1: The idea that he is behind schedule or off schedule

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Speaker 1: is incorrect right now, Shae understandably, his star could not

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Speaker 1: be shining brighter. I get that, and he deserves it. However,

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Speaker 1: and we also can't compare Luca and Shae career numbers

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Speaker 1: because Luca was good instantly and Shae grew into it.

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Speaker 1: So if we simply just take the last two years

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Speaker 1: for Shay, which are far and away the best two

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Speaker 1: years of his career, and compare them to the last

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Speaker 1: two years for Luca, which includes far and away the

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Speaker 1: worst year of his career. This past year, the numbers

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Speaker 1: are identical. Playoffs and regular season identical, except for Luca

562
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Speaker 1: beats him in assists considerably and rebounds by a bit,

563
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Speaker 1: but the scoring and efficiencies are nearly identical. One guy

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Speaker 1: made the finals demanse and lost to a team some

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Speaker 1: people thought was going to turn into a dynasty in Boston.

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Speaker 1: The other guy made the finals and went seven with

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Speaker 1: a team people thought was the most unlikely finalist in

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Speaker 1: modern NBA history. So to add like, I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's fair to be like, well, you can win with

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Speaker 1: one guy, you can't win with the other. Now, Shay

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Speaker 1: is coming off as best year, Lucas coming off his worst.

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Speaker 1: That's undeniable, but it is there's too big of a

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Speaker 1: discussion gap amongst the two. So that's one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons that I am a believer in the Lakers, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this in reverse order three two. One

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Speaker 1: second reason I'm a believer in the Lakers is I

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Speaker 1: do think they are going to make a substantial move

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Speaker 1: in the next week. I think they are going to

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Speaker 1: address some of their roster holes, and I think they

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Speaker 1: have the assets to do it. And the last reason

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Speaker 1: I'm a believer in the Lakers is, let me call

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Speaker 1: it a informed opinion that people that think Lebron is

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Speaker 1: resigned to the idea that he's not like that making

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Speaker 1: finals and competing for championships, that that phase of his

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Speaker 1: career is over, are unabashedly, unequivocally wrong. Now, maybe if

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Speaker 1: your opinion is whatever he thinks is going on, you

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Speaker 1: know doesn't matter, you know that phase is over. That's

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Speaker 1: an opinion and you're allowed to have. But if you

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Speaker 1: think Lebron is like, Okay, at this point, it's just

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Speaker 1: about playing with my son, you know, at some point

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Speaker 1: having a farewell tour. I love the game. You can

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Speaker 1: debt that right now. And I think these finals and

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Speaker 1: watching Oklahoma City struggle with Indiana and watching what these

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Speaker 1: finals looked like. Only Surge emboldened Lebron to feel like

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Speaker 1: I can get back there. And so if you have

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Speaker 1: Chip on his shoulder, Luca wants one last dance at

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Speaker 1: some point deep in the postseason. Lebron and some slight

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Speaker 1: roster tweaking, that to me makes the Lakers a contender.

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Speaker 3: You think Austin Reeves is there next year?

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Speaker 1: Probably not, maybe at the beginning, probably not through the year.

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Speaker 1: I just think Austin Reeves he's your most valuable, tradable asset,

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Speaker 1: and because of Luca, he's a little redundant. When you

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Speaker 1: have Anthony Davis there, Austin Reeves is critical because without

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Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, your only creators the oldest guy in the

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Speaker 1: league and Lebron. But with Luca there, he becomes. And

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Speaker 1: I really like Austin. I you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: The I was the first person tell you Austin Rives

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Speaker 1: better than Bradley Beal. Everybody called me crazy, but I

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Speaker 1: just think sometimes he is right now a luxury and

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Speaker 1: the Lakers have some necessities. So I would put if

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Speaker 1: I were stacking it, I should have started. I think

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Speaker 1: the Nuggets, I should have said included them. I think

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Speaker 1: they are a real player based off the strength of

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Speaker 1: Yokich alone, and I think they will, you know, manicure

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Speaker 1: around the edges, and maybe they were over Michael Malone

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Speaker 1: and maybe what we saw them do in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: under Adlman is something sustainable. And then we see Michael

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Speaker 1: Porter Junior come back healthy and Aaron Gordon come back healthy.

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Speaker 1: So I'd have them for Lakers three. The Rockets, to

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Speaker 1: me are they can win the championship. And I say

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Speaker 1: this with no disrespect du to Oklahoma City at all,

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Speaker 1: but man a Lakers Rockets Western Conference Finals, which I

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Speaker 1: think check me on this, producers. I think we got

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Speaker 1: that once in league history, and it was nineteen eighty six,

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Speaker 1: a team's second year, when everyone thought we were gonna

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Speaker 1: get Lakers Celtics in the finals. Again, I know the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: The Rockets beat the Lakers in the playoffs in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty six. I think it was the conference finals and

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Speaker 1: the the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the hold on the Lakers won the series.

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Speaker 1: Though, hold on a second that that's wrong. I'm just

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Speaker 1: telling you right now.

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Speaker 3: The the you asked the producer, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Telling you right now. I'm telling you right now that

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Speaker 1: reads to me. I'm about to be This is a

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Speaker 1: good lesson for everybody. PA pause the show, but stay

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Speaker 1: on the air. What they just put in the doc

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Speaker 1: reads like it was some AI bot wrote it one

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Speaker 1: thousand percent. It's what it reads like. And I'm here

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Speaker 1: telling you that AI bot doesn't know what the hell

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Speaker 1: it's talking about.

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Speaker 3: That.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now you cannot trust the AI

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Speaker 1: chat bots when it comes to uh sports history. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just the I'm gonna do my thing here.

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Speaker 3: Am I gonna get good here?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Wait?

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Speaker 3: No, it says uh nineteen City versus Houston.

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Speaker 1: Okay, everybody stopped? Does everybody stop for a second?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 1: The the in nineteen eighty six the NBA Finals, without

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Speaker 1: a shadow of a doubt, guys, were the eighty six

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Speaker 1: Celtics maybe the greatest team ever against the chem Olajuan

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Speaker 1: Ralph Sampson Rockets. That is not up for debate. So

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Speaker 1: the I my question was was the conference finals Lakers Rockets?

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Speaker 3: All?

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Speaker 1: Look that up? The Rockets beat the Lakers in the

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Speaker 1: Conference finals. For one, guys, audience, AI chatbots don't fucking

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Speaker 1: know sports. I'm telling you right now, ask like when

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Speaker 1: you're done with the done with the show, ask an

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Speaker 1: AI chatbot, like very basic things like tell me the

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Speaker 1: top ten running backs in the NFL right now, and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna spit at you, Adrian Peterson like. So it's

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Speaker 1: just maybe they're good for some term papers, but they're

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Speaker 1: not good with sports. So the the Rockets have played

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Speaker 1: the Lakers in I the conference finals, I believe that's

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Speaker 1: the only time. I believe it's nineteen eighty six. I

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Speaker 1: know they I am looking at it now. I know they

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Speaker 1: only time. Sorry for the sidebar point, I was trying

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Speaker 1: to make it with no respect to Oklahoma City. A

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Speaker 1: Durant Lebron conference finals, which we've never gotten by the way,

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Speaker 1: we got it, and a Durant Lebron playoff series that

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Speaker 1: felt like a fair fight, which we've only gotten once ever,

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Speaker 1: in the twenty twelve NBA Finals, which I know listen

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Speaker 1: Bron won in five. But that was a great series

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Speaker 1: until Game five. Like those first four games all were

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Speaker 1: in the balance in the fourth quarter, and you can

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Speaker 1: say that wasn't a fair fight because the heat were

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Speaker 1: veterans and the Thunder were young. A fun fact that

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Speaker 1: no one believes, but it is true. Twenty the Heat

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Speaker 1: over the MAVs they lost in twenty eleven. The Heat

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Speaker 1: were the same size favorite over the MAVs in twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: minus won seventy five as the Thunder were over the Heat.

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Speaker 1: When the Heat won their first title with Lebron and

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Speaker 1: Wade in twenty twelve, the Thunder were minus won seventy

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Speaker 1: five favorites going into those finals because the Heat, remember

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Speaker 1: they had lost the year before, and they had damn

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Speaker 1: near lost to Boston, and the Thunder had just like

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Speaker 1: exploded onto the scene and become this seemingly unstoppable force

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Speaker 1: of nature. Again, this is off top of my head,

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Speaker 1: but the that Thunder team in the conference finals played

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Speaker 1: the Spurs, who the Spurs had won demons the final

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Speaker 1: ten games of the regular season and then were ten

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Speaker 1: to zero in the playoffs, up two to zero in

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Speaker 1: the conference finals on a twin any game winning streak

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Speaker 1: and then the Thunder one four straight and made the

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Speaker 1: finals like that Thunder team. It was like, holy shitty, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so it was really a remarkable thing. But okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: we're way off topic. The point I'm trying to make

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Speaker 1: is I think the Rockets have all the pieces you

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Speaker 1: need if Durant stays healthy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like Shingoon as the fulcrum of the offense. I

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Speaker 1: like that Durant ads scoring. I think they're gonna get

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Speaker 1: more from Shephard. I think Udoaka is excellent. I like

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Speaker 1: all of it. And then there's Oklahoma City that has

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Speaker 1: everyone coming back and everyone but Crusoe is super young

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Speaker 1: and should only get better. But there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: plays to balance there. One hundred and five game season.

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Speaker 1: Are you satisfied after a championship? You know, does the

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City got lucky? All putting quotes that the injury

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Speaker 1: bug hit them early instead of late, Like, it's not

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Speaker 1: right to say Oklahoma City, you know, had great injury

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Speaker 1: luck this year. They you know, key players missed real time,

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Speaker 1: but they suffered it early in the year instead of

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Speaker 1: going into the postseason.

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Speaker 3: So type of man for Katie with the Rockets.

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Speaker 2: You know, the Rockets already being a nice team, them

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Speaker 2: trying to mitigate his injuries.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and no, I would. I think you've got

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Speaker 1: they they want KD. I'm sure is I bet KD

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Speaker 1: Let's quickly get through some of this other stuff before

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Speaker 1: I got to go.

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Speaker 2: So we talked about the Halliburton Achilles injury on Tuesday.

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00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 2: Dame and Tatum had the same injury in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and a handful of other guys like Jontae Morey who

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Speaker 2: tour his during the regular season. So you're obviously not

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Speaker 2: a doctor, but what do you think of the uptick

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Speaker 2: of the Achilles injuries in the NBA?

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Speaker 1: So this used to be an old guy injury, It

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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be that anymore, Like people suffered Achilles

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Speaker 1: tears that were old pro athletes or sorry people in

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Speaker 1: your situation, pal, where it's like guys who just didn't

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Speaker 1: do yeah time off, didn't do like you know, didn't

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Speaker 1: stretch or you do everything. But it wasn't young prime.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't people your age, like when you suffered yours

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Speaker 1: who also played basketball at he you know what I mean, right,

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Speaker 1: and had professional trainers and all of that. And so

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Speaker 1: I have heard a bunch of different theories. I don't

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Speaker 1: I this is not my theory, and I would credit

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Speaker 1: the person whose it is, but I heard it secondhand,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if this person wanted their name

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Speaker 1: associated with it. But I think it's a fast and

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Speaker 1: eating theory, and that theory is the shoes are too good.

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Speaker 1: The theory being that in the past you slid a

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Speaker 1: bit when you planted, your shoes gave a little, and

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Speaker 1: now the grip on the bottom and the tightness in

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Speaker 1: how they work, that the shoes don't give at all,

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Speaker 1: and so the pressure puts on your joints and everything else.

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Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. I heard Doc Rivers talk about

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Speaker 1: how guys used to just play all the year round

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Speaker 1: on blacktop and everything, and because of that, their knees went,

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Speaker 1: but their achilles and everything was fine. Obviously a huge

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Speaker 1: part of it is, while the season's always been eighty

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Speaker 1: two games, the amount of movement you have to do,

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Speaker 1: particularly on defense, and with how spread out the game is,

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Speaker 1: there's just so much more start stop, that puts pressure

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Speaker 1: on it. I know some people have questioned if it's

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Speaker 1: about guys specializing in things. I saw a pretty interesting

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Speaker 1: negative Twitter video.

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Speaker 3: Say it again, the negative step or different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's exactly what I was gonna say. We

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Speaker 1: must see the same thing that like this, this, like

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Speaker 1: net what they called a negative step, like this backward

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Speaker 1: step to get going is not something that used to

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Speaker 1: be done. And it's how a bunch of these are happening.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know. I do know that I truly

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Speaker 1: believe this needs to be at the forefront of Adam

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Speaker 1: Silver's agenda for the next eighteen months because you cannot

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Speaker 1: have the achilles in the NBA become Tommy john in baseball,

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Speaker 1: where it's just oh yeah, this half dozen guys are

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Speaker 1: out twelve to eighteen months with an achilles, and particularly

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Speaker 1: because baseball you have you know, the numbers are just

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Speaker 1: so you have more players, you have more pitchers, the

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Speaker 1: numbers are different.

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Speaker 2: But god, I don't know if we ever talked about

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Speaker 2: it on Tuesday, but do you think, like now, if

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Speaker 2: a player feels like calf tightness, it's like an instant

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Speaker 2: three months out, Like it's just like.

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Speaker 1: Not three months but I I think it's three to four.

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Speaker 1: What I was told by a long tenured NBA player

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Speaker 1: was a calf strain you have to simply take a

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00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:08,760
Speaker 1: month off, and even if you feel like you can play,

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Speaker 1: the only way it heals is if you simply rest

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Speaker 1: it for a month. And I that seems dramatic. Now.

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Speaker 1: The other the other piece of this that I would

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Speaker 1: say is figuring out what leads to calf strains and

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00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 1: how to prevent those. And some of that is preventative,

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00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like I know that, and again I don't know.

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00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: What I do know is that most soft tissue injuries,

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00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 1: not all, most are preventable, like hamstrings, groins, quads. Usually

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00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: those are. It is guys who regularly have them are

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Speaker 1: not doing all the things they need to do. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how calves work. I really don't.

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Speaker 2: Man in the NBA now mandatory joga, I don't know

823
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: for the guard.

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Speaker 1: But it is, but it is. It's stunning that this

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00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: is where we're at. And I thought Jay Caspi and

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Speaker 1: Kang had a really interesting tweet where he was like

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Speaker 1: the majority of people watching the finals have no idea

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Speaker 1: if they're watching zone or man de man defense but

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Speaker 1: they all know what an achilles tear looks like. And

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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, that's right, Like we can all diagnose

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Speaker 1: from TV. Oh wow, look, yeah there was that thing

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Speaker 1: where you saw it snap up, go back. We're like, yep,

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00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: we know what that is. And that is in a Again,

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Speaker 1: this is not apples to apples obviously, but the same

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Speaker 1: way we know watching football when a guy the fencing posture,

836
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Speaker 1: we're like, oh, that's a concussion, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: Like we just we know it. And so John in

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00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: the chat says, more players now than ever wear low

839
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Speaker 1: top shoes. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know. I

840
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: do know that this should be a top top priority

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00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: for the league because the only year, the only I'll

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Speaker 1: take the NFL, which seemingly is a ratings you know,

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00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 1: not seemingly is a ratings behemoth, unstoppable for us. The

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Speaker 1: only year of the NFL had real ratings you know,

845
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: issues is the wrong word, but dips was the year

846
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: all those quarterbacks got hurt. People. There there is a

847
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 1: star and there's no league where the star power matters

848
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Speaker 1: more than the NBA. And out you know, the achilles

849
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Speaker 1: not a quick one either, Like what has changed is

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Speaker 1: we have seen guys come back and be as good

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Speaker 1: as they were. What has not changed is it's twelve

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Speaker 1: to eighteen months. You look at me skeptical about as

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Speaker 1: good as they were.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say, I think it's actually

855
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 2: been pretty rare. But the guys Katie's like the only

856
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Speaker 2: person I think that's torn as Achilles recently that like

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Speaker 2: came back and was the same or a little bit

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Speaker 2: better than when here Achilles.

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Speaker 1: So no, that's fair. But again in the past that

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Speaker 1: it was old guys, so you'dn't expect him to be better.

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Speaker 1: The only other like Star that I'm thinking of that

862
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 1: we've seen the full run of other than KD is Clay.

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01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: But Clay suffered multiple catastrophicyuries in the same lay, you

864
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's a different situation. I

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Speaker 1: do think Tatum will be like old Tatum. I do.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, But but what doesn't What hasn't changed,

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Speaker 1: demon'say is oh and now you're back in six months, right,

868
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: Like that's not that's not been the case. All right,

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Joker real quick before we.

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Speaker 2: Go, uh So, Nuggets president Josh Crockey had some interesting

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Speaker 2: things to say.

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Speaker 3: So, Yeah, he says, I think that.

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Speaker 2: There are rules around it that we need to be

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Speaker 2: very careful of with our injury history. The wrong person

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Speaker 2: gets injured, and very quickly you're into a scenario that

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Speaker 2: I never want to contemplate, and that's trading number fifteen.

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Speaker 2: So he tried to clarify that they do plan on

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Speaker 2: extending him. But what will be the purpose in saying

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Speaker 2: something like this.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a big mistake. I think he made

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Speaker 1: a big mistake. And I when I say a big mistake,

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01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't mean like you can't recover from it. But

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Speaker 1: I think it is a significant mistake that he needs

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Speaker 1: to clean up with Joker Joker right, because what he's

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01:01:56,440 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: talking about. If I'm Joker and I guess off my

886
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: horse and somebody shows me this clip, I reason, I

887
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: think it's totally reasonable for him to be like, hold

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: on a second, what you're saying there is are you

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01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 1: telling me there is a scenario where I want to

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01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: be a nugget and you guys decide you're trading me?

891
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 1: Because I didn't think that's the deal we had. I

892
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: thought the deal we had was as long as I

893
01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: want to be here, I will be here and and

894
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: so like the and I know Kronky's like it's you know,

895
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: it's only a catastrophe whatever. Like if I'm Joker, I'm like,

896
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 1: that's not how this works. Just so you know, the

897
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: way this works is the only way you guys trade

898
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: me is if I come to you and say trade me.

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01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,760
Speaker 1: And by the way, I expect if I do that

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Speaker 1: for you guys to be like please please, mister Joker

901
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: or no, like no, no, no, and so uh I

902
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: the you can ask the follow up here if you'd like.

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01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 2: On a scale one to ten, how scared your producer

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01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 2: Daniel will be about the Nuggets messing this up somehow?

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01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:18,280
Speaker 1: Well, I I think they've already kind of messed it

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01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,400
Speaker 1: up over the last couple of years and not really

907
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 1: letting him defend his title in full. I don't think

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01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: they're going to trade Joker, but I do think that

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01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: they need to tighten up, Like I just think they

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01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: need to tighten up. Argent says, should the Bucks trade

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01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: be honest for jokers? Straight up? Denver would not do that?

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01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: The Bucks would do that, like the I think that

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 3: There are what would they for jokers? Straight up? The

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01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 3: Bucks would would take Joker over you honest.

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Speaker 1: Uh, yes, because of the contract. I do think Jokers

917
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: are slightly better player at this point, and because they

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01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: might have to trade Giannis anyways either way, and they

919
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: don't have their own pick so they can't tank. I

920
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 1: think there are right now. I think there are three

921
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: players that teams would not trade straight up for Giannis, Joker, Shay,

922
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Speaker 1: and Luca. And it's not to say, by the way,

923
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: Shay and Luca are better than Yannis. I don't actually

924
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: think they are necessarily. I'm just telling you because of

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01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: the age difference, and Shay obviously just won the title

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Speaker 1: of that stuff, they wouldn't trade him them for for Joker. Oh,

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01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: Wimby as well, Thank you, Daniel Wimby as well. Wimby.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think about that because you couldn't trade him

929
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Speaker 1: straight up because the salaries. But yeah, Wimby, I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I don't think san Antonio would trade Wimby for Joker.

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01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: I think Jokers like that's an interest. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they would. Maybe they would, but I don't think they would.

933
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Speaker 1: All right, let's do Aaron Rodgers real quick for it.

934
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Speaker 1: We get to the listener questions.

935
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Speaker 2: He's hinting at retirement against that time of year, he said,

936
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure that this is my last season. That's

937
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 2: why I just did a one year deal. Do you

938
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 2: believe him?

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01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,640
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I do think this is Aaron

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01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: rodgers last year. I also do not think Aaron Rodgers

941
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: is a credible narrator, and I think the media needs

942
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 1: stop treating him like a credible narrator, even of his

943
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 1: own life, because within five minutes of him saying I'm

944
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: pretty sure this is my last season, he also said, paraphrasing,

945
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: he doesn't like being in the public eye, and when

946
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: he's done playing football, he won't be in the public

947
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: eye anymore. And the only reason he is in the

948
01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: public eye is because he's playing football, which is just

949
01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: an uproarious comment from a guy who, in the last

950
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: thirty six months has tried to become the full time

951
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: host of Jeopardy when that did not work out, flirted

952
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: with becoming the vice president of the United States. And

953
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: one of the reasons we know about those things is

954
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: because they were discussed in the documentary about Aaron Rodgers

955
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: produced by Aaron Rodgers. Like Nothing screams whoa, whoa, WHOA?

956
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: I hate this intention, like you personally paying a camera

957
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: crew to follow you around to create a movie about you. Like,

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01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: So I just don't. I don't find him to be

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01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: a credible narrator of his own events. And also, and

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01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: I'm just going to wink at this, do you guys,

961
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:03,240
Speaker 1: remember when Aaron Rodd was asked, of course you do,

962
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: because he thinks this is the end all, be all

963
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 1: of any issue anyone could possibly have with him. Is

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Speaker 1: this one comment? Because God knows, he hasn't done anything else.

965
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: Wildly aggravating when he was asked if he had gotten

966
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Speaker 1: the vaccine and he said, yeah, I've been, I've been well,

967
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: he didn't say hey, he said I've been immunized. And

968
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: then he was like, I didn't lie to you, guys,

969
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying anything I am saying. There

970
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: was a very similar turn of phrase about at his

971
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: introductory press conference about his wedding ring that I found interesting,

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Speaker 1: that's all. I just found it interesting. And so I

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Speaker 1: just don't find Aaron to be a reliable narrator of

974
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Speaker 1: events you care to share. Well, he was asked what

975
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 1: he was wearing and he said, it's a wedding ring

976
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: or somebody said, is that a wedding ring? And he

977
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 1: said yes, But I I know, I know what for

978
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: everyone else that would mean. I also know that it

979
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't necessarily be a lie.

980
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Speaker 3: I'm not married.

981
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Speaker 1: Again, I didn't say I didn't say all that. I'm

982
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Speaker 1: just simply saying that it's that's all. That's all that

983
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Speaker 1: he said. And so I find I find all that fascinating.

984
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: But again, I'm sure Aaron hates this because he hates

985
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Speaker 1: the attention. All right, let's do some listener questions real quick.

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Speaker 3: Mary asked, isn't there a snake watcher like for dogs

987
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 3: and kids?

988
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe you have to let someone in your apartment.

989
01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 1: We didn't set this up the other time.

990
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I don't. I don't. I don't think there's Yeah,

991
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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate that, Mary, But yeah, I'm just kind

993
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 2: of banking on the week being gone.

994
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 3: You know, it's not gonna spread. I'm gonna check on

995
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:15,759
Speaker 3: every the day before.

996
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: It's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. And also

997
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 2: I have homies out here. If it really comes down

998
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 2: to it, of course, But uh, and Noah asks which

999
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,120
Speaker 2: Western conference big versus Guard is more likely to be

1000
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 2: the new Kobe versus Duncan for this era, Wimby versus

1001
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 2: SGA or Wimby versus Luca.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would say Wimby versus Luca, but I'm

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01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 1: again I'm a Luca guy. The All right, let's go

1004
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 1: to John and then we gotta get out of here.

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01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 3: John ass who do you see flag behind?

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01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:46,120
Speaker 1: Uh?

1007
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,559
Speaker 2: Or who do you see flag being? Like in the future,

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01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,640
Speaker 2: I feel like he gets better defensively. We got another pivot.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Scottie Pippens one of the greatest perimeter defenders of

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01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: all time. That's to me too big of an but

1011
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,960
Speaker 1: he also should be a better offensive player than Pippen.

1012
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 1: So like who is who is the the the I

1013
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:20,040
Speaker 1: don't know. I I don't know what the comp We

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Speaker 1: don't need to read that last one. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what the comp is for Flag. I do. I know

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Speaker 1: that they're gonna hope he can be a you know,

1017
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: a do it all point forward type. But I think

1018
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: people throw around the Pippen defensive uh comps to Willy

1019
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:42,600
Speaker 1: Nilly like the like Jada Jalen Williams for the thunder

1020
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 1: he should he might end up. He already has had

1021
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 1: a better offensive single playoff game than Pippen had his

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Speaker 1: whole career. But Jalen Willis will never be Scotty Pippen defensively. Scotty,

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Speaker 1: I mean Scotty Pippen had a multi year stretch where

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01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: he was every year either best, second or third best

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Speaker 1: perimeter defender in the league. Like that's to me, too

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Speaker 1: big of an ask, All right, reminder everybody like great

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Speaker 1: Right here, see you guys later. What's right,