1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Oh, welcome to a classic Ridiculous History episode. Folks, we 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: love all kinds of I don't know they call us 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: silly for this, but we love stuff like state birds 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: and you know, state statements. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: State craft whatever. 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 3: Now I've actually only just recently kind of become less 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,440 Speaker 3: terrified of birds, so I'm learning all about state birds 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: these days. But state songs are funny, right, Yeah, It's 9 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: not even something I knew that every state had. 10 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: Every state apparently has a song, and it may not 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: be the ones that you think of when you think 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: of that state. In this classic episode, we are exploring 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: something that surprised the heck out of. 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 2: Both of us. 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: The state of Maryland has a weird, weird banker for 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: their official. 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: Song, Oh Maryland, My Maryland, making references to things like 18 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 3: northern sky and calling out a war with their ops. 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Man. 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 3: There's some there's there's some firebars of this tune. We're 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 3: gonna jump into the story of Maryland state song right now. 22 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 4: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. 23 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, Hello, and thank you for tuning in. We're 24 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: going to begin today's episode with a bit of song. 25 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: A goodie, I. 26 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Hear the Distant Thunder hum, then by Marylyn the online 27 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: bugle fife and drums man. 28 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: Marilyn. She is not dead, nor. 29 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 5: Deaf nor dumb. 30 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: Huzzas the Northern's Come, she burns you comshoe Come, Marilyn, 31 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: my ma, what you just heard? Friends and Neighbors is 32 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: an excerpt from one of the most famous songs in 33 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: Maryland's history. Hello, I'm Ben. 34 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm Noah? And what was it that gave it away? 35 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 3: Was it the O'maryland O Maryland? 36 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we only played a part of that song, 37 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: but trust us that that sick hook comes in to 38 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: play multiple times. 39 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: Well, it starts off, you know, innocently enough as a nice, rollicking, 40 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: if derivative tune. 41 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 2: What's that tune? Ben, I can't quite put my finger 42 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 2: on it. 43 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we both know it's otanam vaguely holiday centric. 44 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I was being coined. But right starts off 45 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: innocently enough lyrically. And then the part we play things 46 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: take a bit of a turn, don't they better? 47 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: They do? And we also hope this amuses our estranged 48 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: super producer, Casey Pegrim, whom we promise is still out 49 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 1: and about but will come in from the cold, very soon, Noel, 50 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: should we should we read that last verse for anyone 51 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: who didn't get it? 52 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean those big, booming, you know, swingle 53 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: singer type voices could have obscured some meaning there. 54 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: So they're saying, I hear the distant thunder hum Maryland, 55 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: the old line bugle Fife and drum Maryland. So far, 56 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: so good. Fine, Yeah, she is not dead, nor deaf 57 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: nor dumb. Huzzah. She spurns the northern scum. Oh wait 58 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: what she breathes, she burns. She'll come, She'll come, Maryland, 59 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: my Maryland. 60 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: Oh man, they're really into Maryland. I'm sorry, the northern scum. 61 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, in eat my friend, the northern scum. You see, 62 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: the song that was for a long time the state 63 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: song of Maryland turned out to be belligerent to other 64 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: states in the fair Union. 65 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 2: Of the US. But Ben, why would they do that. 66 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: I'm so glad. I'm so glad that we asked this 67 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: question today, because it's one of those historical, I don't know, 68 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: historical footnotes that everyone would just accept as normal. Let's 69 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: face it, many people here in the US don't pay 70 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: that much attention to the song of a particular state. 71 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think ours is Georgia on my mind, right, 72 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 3: And that's sort of rare to have something of a 73 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 3: modern song, like what you would consider a pop type 74 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: song as your state song. Typically there are more classic 75 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: folky type songs, right. 76 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 2: M hm. 77 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: And as you said, they're also occasionally plagiarized in terms 78 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: of melody. 79 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's only so many melodies, there are. 80 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 1: Only so many notes to go around. And the lyrics 81 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: to this song, which you can find in full with 82 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of Google foo or which we might 83 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: post on ridiculous historians when this episode comes out. 84 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: I'm more into google kwando myself. 85 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a Google kwando. So it's all about the 86 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: uh what is that the grapple? 87 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, sweep sweep the leg I don't know about any 88 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: of this stuff, man, I'm just just spitball in here. 89 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 3: But there is a little passage in the tune that 90 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: really makes us think. And this is what kind of 91 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: got us to dig into a little bit more background here. 92 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: Avenge the patriotic gore that flecked the streets of Baltimore 93 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: and be the battle queen of your Maryland, my Maryland. 94 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: Kind of this personification of Maryland as being some sort 95 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: of badass avenging warrior. 96 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 2: Right, and what's this? 97 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 5: What's this? 98 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: What are these gore flecked streets of Baltimore? Difference here? 99 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 5: Right? 100 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 1: And right? Before we get to that, I just want 101 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: to establish what I was saying. We will go ahead, 102 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: I'll do it. We'll post these lyrics in full, because 103 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: you really should read along with them if you can 104 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 1: to see this. There's a lot of illusion and reference 105 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: in this. And you're absolutely right, Noal, there's something more 106 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: to the story here when we see this personification of 107 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: Maryland as a heroic protector of downtrodden people, and it 108 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: traces back to a real life event, isn't that correct? 109 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: One that occurred in eighteen sixty one? 110 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: A real life event indeed, And it's something it really 111 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: drew attention to, something that I was unaware of. I 112 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 3: think Maryland and I think northern I think Maryland is 113 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: right next to New York. I think it's got the 114 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 3: same sensibilities and historical leanings. 115 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 2: As it turns out, not the case. 116 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: No, yeah, that's a mid Atlantic state. But during the 117 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: time of the Civil War and for a lot of 118 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: time during the formation of what would later become recognized 119 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: as the modern US. Sure, Maryland was considered a Southern 120 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: state very much so, both geographically and culturally. Yeah, ideologically 121 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: as well, right, yes, because Maryland, you see, had a 122 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: lot of tobacco and as a result, they were a 123 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: slave state for some time. 124 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 3: So then let's get back to those gore speckled streets 125 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: of Baltimore, which is pretty dope to rhyme Gore and Baltimore. 126 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: Yes, let us travel there. The gore soaked streets in 127 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: question are themselves in Baltimore, specifically a street called Pratt 128 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: Street Pratt. On April nineteenth and eighteen sixty one, on 129 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: Pratt Street in Baltimore, there was a conflict that led 130 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: to a riot or what some would call a massacre, 131 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 1: between two ideologically opposed groups in the city. 132 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 2: That's right, honest. Abe. 133 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: Lincoln, the president you might have heard of him, was 134 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: not the most popular guy. He actually had a nickname 135 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: that I only just recently discovered, the rail splitter. You 136 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 3: know about this, Yeah, I guess, I guess I can only. 137 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: Assume it means because he divided the country. 138 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 3: Oh yep, that yeah, So that's what happened, right, You had, 139 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: like the Union versus the Confederacy. Confederacy being the pro 140 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: slave states that wanted to secede from the Union, and 141 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: then you had the primarily northern Union states and the 142 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 3: Union army. Lincoln called for a rallying of troops to 143 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 3: protect the capital in Washington, d C. After the bombarding 144 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 3: of Fort Sumter in is it Charleston, Charleston, South Carolina, 145 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 3: I believe right, Yes, that's correct, Yeah, and which apparently 146 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: wasn't of particular military strategic value to the North, but 147 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: it became this kind of symbol of Union forces that 148 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: to the point where it was symbolically, I suppose, attacked 149 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 3: by Confederate forces, and that is when the Civil War 150 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 3: really kicked off. 151 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, the first shots of the war. That occurs in 152 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: the first Battle of Fort Sumter on April twelfth, eighteen 153 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: sixty one. And so Lincoln, as we said, needs to 154 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 1: protect DC and he orders a ton of troops to 155 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: go to the capitol and prepare for war with the 156 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: Southern states who are seceding from the Union. A lot 157 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 1: of these troops were brought through a major transportation hub 158 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: at the time, Baltimore City. But there was a problem 159 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: because in Maryland there were tons and tons of people who, 160 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: even if they were, you know, generally anti war, they 161 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: were sympathetic with the Confederate side. 162 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 3: To secession, to this idea they should be allowed to 163 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 3: do that if they so chose, and they really resented 164 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 3: this notion of Union troops passing through their city. They 165 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: saw it as intimidation in some form or even the 166 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 3: idea that they would be there to prevent them from 167 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: seceding if they wanted to, and to you know, try 168 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 3: to hold them at gunpoint in the Union, right. 169 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's that's a fact that we can't gloss 170 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: over because you can imagine how easily people could perceive 171 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: it that way. Even if it is not intended to 172 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: be a show of force, it comes across as one 173 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: and there's no way around it. This leads to simmering, 174 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: unsustainable tension because there were two sides. There were people 175 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: who were out and out Confederate sympathizers saying we should 176 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 1: join with what we see as the good cause, the 177 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: right to secede, and then there were other people who 178 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: were saying, we object to waging a war against our 179 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: states to the south or southern neighbors, whether or not 180 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: we agree with their aims right. 181 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 3: And whether or not this gentleman Baltimore Mayor, George W. Brown, 182 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: personally agreed with those aims isn't clear from. 183 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 2: What I've read. 184 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 3: But what he knew was that it wasn't going to 185 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: go particularly well if these Union soldiers marched through his city, 186 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: and so he actually wrote a letter of warning to 187 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 3: ab link him, and it went as such, the people 188 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: are exasperated to the highest degree by the passage of troops, 189 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: and the citizens are universally decided in the opinion that 190 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 3: no more should be ordered to come. The authorities did 191 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: their best to protect both strangers and citizens and to 192 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 3: prevent a collision. But in vain does my solemn duty 193 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 3: to inform you that it is not possible for more 194 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 3: soldiers to pass through Baltimore unless they fight their way 195 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 3: at every step. So there a been a trickle of 196 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 3: forces going through because, as we said, there was this 197 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 3: railroad hub. They had to switch lines to Camden Station, 198 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 3: which was a mile and a half west of the 199 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 3: PWNB depot, where they would get off and march through 200 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 3: the city to the other line and then make their 201 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 3: way directly to Washington, d C. So there had clearly 202 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 3: already been some tensions in the streets during previous passings 203 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: through of these forces, and the mayor was really trying 204 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: his best to keep these tensions at a simmer rather 205 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: than boiling over. 206 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: To keep an increasingly fragile peace. Unfortunately, his efforts, as 207 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: well intentioned as they were, were in vain, and as 208 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: Union troops came through Baltimore on their way south in 209 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: April of eighteen sixty one, they were attacked by mobs 210 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: and Union troops as well as Baltimore residents civilians. Mind 211 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: you were killed in these riots. 212 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:08,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, this gets super hairy, super quick. There's another story too, 213 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: involving travel on this line. Lincoln himself had to pass 214 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: through this area under cover of night because of the 215 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: Union sympathizers there and fear that there would be an 216 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: attempt on his life. So there was actually like a 217 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 3: political cartoon that was circulating of a Lincoln kind of 218 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: sheepishly peeking out of a box car as though he were, 219 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,479 Speaker 3: you know, a thief in the night kind of. So, yeah, 220 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,119 Speaker 3: Lincoln had only won i think something in the neighborhood 221 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 3: of three percent of the vote in Baltimore during the election, 222 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: so not a well liked guy. But similarly to the 223 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: Lincoln story, at first, no one knew that there were 224 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 3: troops on this train that was coming through. It looked 225 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 3: like any other freight train, right. 226 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: The arrival of the soldiers was largely not registered by 227 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: the civilians. The people just wan round in Baltimore. But 228 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 1: rumors started spreading very quickly. And again, as you said, 229 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: there was that what three percent approval rating you mentioned, 230 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: not so good, not good at all, And the residents 231 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: and the local community leaders absolutely publicly disliked the new 232 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: administration of the Union. And when they found out that 233 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: these soldiers, specifically volunteers from the sixth Massachusetts, I believe 234 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: when they found out they were in the city, that 235 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: they were about to make the transfer to Camden. They 236 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 1: were doing this in daylight, and there was a relatively 237 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: short distance for them, right it was. Let's see, it's 238 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: like they go four blocks north, two blocks south, like 239 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: we have the blocks mapped out, and this short distance 240 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: is where everything hits the fan. Historically speaking, because the 241 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: Baltimoreans are already very sensitive, these rumors are becoming increasingly 242 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: believable to the average citizen. Railroad officials already anticipate that 243 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: there could be trouble, and if trouble occurs, it will 244 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: occur in this switch. 245 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: Did you know that during that switch, they would literally 246 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: unhook the train cars from the track and pull them 247 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 3: through town with horse horses. Yeah, that's wild. So that 248 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: was happening right with these soldiers, and it kind of 249 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 3: ended up like a you know, a Wild West wagon 250 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: train shootout because even before this crazy decoupling situation happens, 251 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: the soldiers were noticed. 252 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the soldiers were noticed, and the soldiers themselves from 253 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: Massachusetts were prepared because the commander, Colonel Edward Jones, had 254 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: received these warnings from railroad officials, so they were ready 255 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: for a situation to go sideways, to go pear shaped, 256 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: or appropriate for this episode, for things to go south. 257 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: So imagine the tension in the inside these cars. These 258 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: guys are sitting ducks. They know their commander knows that 259 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: if something is going to go wrong, it's going to 260 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: go wrong in this fateful passage between railroad stations. So 261 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: inside the cars, the soldiers are literally trying not to 262 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: look out of the windows because just like the beginning 263 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: maybe of a zombie film. You mentioned Wild West. To me, 264 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: it feels like a zombie thing where you see one 265 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: straggler approach right, and then more and then more and 266 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: then more because workers and residents of the area start 267 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: following the line of cars, which is I believe about 268 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: seven cars long at this time. 269 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: That is correct, And they were pulled by horses down 270 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 3: Pratt Street heading towards this canden station, and the crowd gets. 271 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 2: Bigger and bigger and more unruly. People are shouting jeff Davis, 272 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: as in Jefferson Davis, who was the president of the Confederacy. 273 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: And as this, as this simmer grows into a roiling boil, 274 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: all the sudden something snaps. People start throwing stones at 275 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: the very last coach, like big old paving stones. Yeah, 276 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah yeah. And some of them were armed 277 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: with pistols. I think someone got their their thumb blasted off, 278 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, bleeding out in the streets there, people were 279 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: getting hit. So all of the cars except for two, 280 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: got to where they needed to go. But these these 281 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,479 Speaker 1: mobsters I'm gonna call them, were doing stuff like they 282 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: were throwing obstacles in the road like anvils and sand 283 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: and just I mean, and they were ready, I guess right, 284 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: this is crazy. And so the cars that were remaining 285 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: that were blocked. The soldiers had to get off. And 286 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: again we have to emphasize that they had no sympathizers 287 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: in the crowd on their side. 288 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 2: Sure didn't seem like it. 289 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was nobody standing by moving anchors away from 290 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: the road. Now, in fact, there was a there was 291 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: a businessman named Charles Pendergast who supplied people with crowbars 292 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: and pickaxes and said, you know, and convinced them, not 293 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: that it took much arm twisting, convinced them to pull 294 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: the rails up from the street because the paved streets 295 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: we should mention, had rails to make it easier for 296 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: the horses to pull. 297 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 2: The cars exactly. So let's just clarify real quick. 298 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 3: So this first onslaught on these troops came while they 299 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: were still in the cars right right. They were trying 300 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 3: their damn just not to make eye contact with the 301 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 3: zombie weirdos that were outside that you mentioned earlier. But 302 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 3: then of course they unleashed hell on these cars, started 303 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 3: literally firing upon them and throwing paving stones, like I said, 304 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: through it and a guy got his thumb blown off. 305 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 3: And that was when he asked Major Benjamin Watson, who 306 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: was in this car with him for permission to fire 307 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 3: on the crowd, and he granted this permission, and so 308 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 3: they were able to kind. 309 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 1: Of shoot up and away a volley of shots yea 310 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: through the windows ye meaning to disperse the crowd. 311 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: Shot yeah, not to hurt, not not directly to kill. 312 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 3: And that was enough to get them a little bit 313 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: more freedom where they could they could kind of proceed. 314 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: For a second, for a minute. 315 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, because after after not much time had passed, this 316 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: began to turn into a full on gun battle, and 317 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: the rails were successfully pulled from the pavement, so there 318 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: wasn't a way for the horses to continue pulling the cars. 319 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: And this means that the stranded soldiers have to do 320 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: something incredibly dangerous a last resort, over two hundred of 321 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: them have to get out of the cars in gunfire 322 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: and walk their unlucky keisters to the train station. 323 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 324 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 3: And they formed a sort of a FAILANX like a formation, 325 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 3: and in the hopes that they could keep these rioters 326 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: at bay. I do want to read a pretty cool 327 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: quote from this article on History Net about this particular 328 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: event called Baltimore Riot of eighteen sixty one. In this car, 329 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 3: the major gives kind of a pep talk where he 330 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: says that you will likely be called horrible names. People 331 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 3: will throw things at you, people will do anything they 332 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: can to mess with you, and he uses the term 333 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: even if they throw stones, bricks, or other missiles at you, 334 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 3: just don't look at them, don't pay them any mind. 335 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 3: But if you're fired upon and any one of you 336 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 3: is hit, your officers will order you to fire. Not 337 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: fire into any promiscuous crowds, but select any man whom 338 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 3: you may see aiming at you, and be sure you 339 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 3: drop him. 340 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: So don't hurt anyone who is just standing with the 341 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: crowd protest, yes, but if someone is aiming to do 342 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: a possibly fatal damage, take him out. 343 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 2: So now this has come to pass. This was earlier. 344 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 3: This was them kind of like preparing for what might happen, 345 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: gripping their rifles. They were all issued a certain number 346 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 3: of rounds in preparation for this hairy journey. 347 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 2: And now the s has. 348 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: Hit the f My friend, yes, very much so. And 349 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: there's a merchant named Richard Fisher. He is doing business 350 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: with a sea captain from Spain, a Spanish guy. They're 351 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: watching these riders on the second floor of Fisher's business, 352 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 1: and the sea captain says, you seem much agitated. This 353 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: is nothing. We frequently have these things in Spain, to 354 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: which Fisher replies, in Spain, this might mean nothing. In America, 355 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 1: it means civil war. And he was correct because this situation, 356 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: as we said, this situation is turned terrible, very very quickly. 357 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: The columns are moving forward, trying to get to the station. 358 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: They are surrounded on all sides by this howling mob 359 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: of people shouting racial epithets of a very specific time 360 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: and threatening their lives. We were going to kill you 361 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: before we reach the station. 362 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 3: They call them white inwards. I'm just going to put 363 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 3: that out there. I'd never heard that one before. That's outragious. 364 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 3: This goes to show, like again my notion of the 365 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 3: ideology of Baltimore way off. Ben did not know about 366 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 3: any of this stuff. And so yeah, the soldiers fired back, 367 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 3: the rioters fired. 368 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 2: On the soldiers. 369 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 3: Stray bullets are flying everywhere, paving stones are hitting people 370 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,479 Speaker 3: in the face. It is an absolute ship show, my friend. 371 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 3: And they did finally make it to Camden Station, but 372 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 3: not without some casualties. And these casualties would be considered 373 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: some of the first of the Civil War. Are somewhere 374 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: in the neighborhood of eight to eleven of these assembled 375 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 3: lunatic riders. A bystander who was a child, I believe, 376 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 3: who caught like a ship cabin boy who caught a 377 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: bullet in the gut, a stray. 378 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: Bullet, which is an ugly way to die a reservoir dogs. 379 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: Have you seen that? With tim Roth? That's no good. 380 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and twenty four soldiers and an unknown number of 381 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: civilians according to a report from NPS dot gov. 382 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 1: And on the other side, with the soldiers, four died, 383 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: There were four casualties. Thirty six soldiers were in some 384 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: way wounded, and we don't have the exact accounts of 385 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: the degree of damage they received. So it's about you know, 386 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: one guy obviously lost his thumb. That's a tremendous bummer. 387 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: But there may have been people who were just slightly wounded, 388 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: you know. 389 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no real record of like how many people 390 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 3: just had to hobble off tend to get you know, triaged, right, 391 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 3: And there may have been people who were rendered useless. 392 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: In the war effort. But that is the riots in 393 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 1: a nutshell. Why are we talking about this riot? Why 394 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 1: are we talking about the six Massachusetts Infantry, this change 395 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: of trains. We're talking about it because one of the 396 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:43,119 Speaker 1: people who died was the friend of a journalist and 397 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: poet named James Ryder Randall, also a resident of Baltimore, Maryland. 398 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he originally came from Louisiana, so 399 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 3: he was already super entrenched in the idea of owning 400 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: slaves and that Southern ideology that you know, it was 401 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 3: such a huge part of this divide. 402 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: It was originally just a poem. It became a song 403 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: when it was set to music to the tune of 404 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: the German O Tannenbaum or Larger Heredius by Jenny Carey, 405 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: who is the sister of Hetty Carrey. And we had 406 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: a cool note from our Powell Christopher who says that 407 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: Hetty Carrey could be quote sort of kind of considered 408 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: the Confederate Betsy. 409 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: Ross Rick because she designed the Confederate flag. Yeah, and 410 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 3: also was married to a guy. His last name was Pegrum. 411 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 3: That's weird. 412 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you noticed Casey is never in the same 413 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: room when we mentioned that guy. 414 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's the first time. 415 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, but technically that means he's never been in the 416 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: same room. 417 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: Well, technically he's never in the same room because we're 418 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: in the shipping container and he's out in the real world. 419 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: We're in a partition of a room. Okay, that's fair, 420 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: but what makes a room. That's a story for a 421 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: different day. So the song, this Maryland state song. 422 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 2: Is the Maryland My Maryland. 423 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, is the sivalent of a disc track today. And 424 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: we can see through the lyrics that they're clearly you know, 425 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: the mention of a titan clearly referring to Abraham Lincoln. 426 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: Northern scum is clearly referring to the Union, the invading horde, 427 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: right right, right, And Randall himself wrote this as a 428 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: protest poem, but did not originally plan for it to 429 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: become a state song. He was also known as the 430 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: poet Laureate of the Lost Cause. 431 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 3: Oh that's that sounds like a very backhanded compliment. 432 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: It feels very emo to me. It's like the album 433 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: name for an unreleased Bright Eyes track. 434 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 435 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: So this song remains a protest song. It's not the 436 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: official state song yet, and we'll get to when that happens. 437 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: But Maryland is not all the sudden cowed by the Union. 438 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: In just because this one riot occurred, right as a 439 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: matter of fact, they doubled down, I believe. 440 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't beat them down right away, but the 441 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 3: effects were pretty definitive. The governor and the mayor and 442 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 3: that we talked about earlier called out for militia forces 443 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 3: to come in and keep the peace in the streets. 444 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 3: And then a little later in June of eighteen sixty one, 445 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 3: Maryland did in fact vote to secede from the Union. 446 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 3: But by that time, essentially because of their actions in 447 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 3: this riot, Maryland was occupied by Union forces. 448 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is weird because, according to a couple of 449 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: different articles won by Michael Dresser over at the Baltimore Sun, 450 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: originally after the riot to QWEL tensions, Lincoln himself had 451 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 1: promised that they wouldn't do that, and then that's exactly 452 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: what they did. 453 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, can can you fill in the gaps there for 454 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: me a little bit? I was kind of having a 455 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 3: hard I wrapping my head around what happened. It looks 456 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 3: like they had these militia forces, they were trying to 457 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 3: keep the peace. But there was a threat made against 458 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: a fort a Union. 459 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:18,400 Speaker 1: Fort, Yeah, Fort McHenry, Sot, Fort McHenry in the aftermath 460 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: of the riot becomes incredibly important. Like in July, the 461 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: very next month, there's a grand jury that's already indicting 462 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 1: several people for their role in the riot. After the riot, 463 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: there are still skirmishes occurring between just the local police 464 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: and citizens and Mayor Brown and Governor Hicks, as you said, 465 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: asked Lincoln to please don't send any more troops through 466 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: our town. This is bad for everybody. It's a lose lose, 467 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: And he said a couple of different conflicting things. It 468 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,479 Speaker 1: was at a peace delegation who speaking at a YMCA meeting. 469 00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: True story, and. 470 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: He said that, you know, no matter what people say 471 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: about it, Union soldiers were neither birds to fly over 472 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: Maryland nor moles to burrow under it. So Hicks, the 473 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: governor authorized the mayor to send the militia, you know, 474 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: mentioned the militias to disable the railroad bridges into the city. 475 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 1: He said he didn't do it. But the stories differ. 476 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: And Fort McHenry in this crazy will they won't they 477 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: debate over putting Union soldiers in there. Fort McHenry becomes 478 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: a place for the Union forces to detain people. There's 479 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: a newspaper editor who gets detained. There is a man 480 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: who was supposed to be a Maryland Militias state soldier 481 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: was detained, and the legal system is getting involved, and 482 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: Fort McHenry becomes this sort of center for the Union 483 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: forces and quite controversial. 484 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: Yes. 485 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 3: And the reason that the occupation of Maryland really kicked 486 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 3: off was that the for mckenry was under attack by 487 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: some secessionists and one of these militia units was sent 488 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: to help out with that. And then the commander in charge, 489 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: General Butler, of the same unit of troops that had 490 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: come into Baltimore in the first place. 491 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: During the riots, exactly. 492 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 493 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 3: He kind of knew, becased on previous events that there 494 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: were secessionists in the ranks of these militiamen, and agreed 495 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: to accept their assistance, but didn't really want them to get. 496 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 5: Too close, right, They want them to get too close, 497 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 5: So he said, if they did get any closer than 498 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 5: the there was like a chapel, it was a mile 499 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 5: and a half from the fort, then they would unleash 500 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 5: gunfire upon them. 501 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,959 Speaker 1: And again we find ourselves in an untenable, unsustainable situation, 502 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: a city largely divided and separate from in many ways 503 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: the aims of the federal government. However, as you can tell, 504 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: despite the precarious nature of the state, city and federal 505 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: government relationship, ultimately many of the very very extremely pro 506 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: Confederate Baltimoreans and civil leaders they leave town r they 507 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: go south and not on a rail because they had 508 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: already cried up all the rails, and they eventually about 509 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: sixty thousand Marylanders end up fighting for the Union and 510 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: only about twenty to twenty five thousand end up fighting 511 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: for the Confederacy. 512 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 2: Yeahues that's one thing that we didn't really talk about. 513 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 3: A lot of places I read there were there was 514 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 3: kind of a split in Maryland because it was below 515 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 3: the Mason Dixon line, so it was they did have 516 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 3: this kind of sense of themselves as being more part 517 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: of the South. They depended on slavery for commerce, with 518 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: the tobacco and the being sort of a hub for trade. 519 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 3: But it was a little more divided than maybe initially 520 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 3: seemed to be the case. 521 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, many places were pretty divided and not ideologically homogeneous. 522 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: Because here's the thing, who's going to take to the 523 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: streets and you know, put themselves life and limb and 524 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: harms away. 525 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 2: It's not the casual racists. 526 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: You know, it's the hardcore ones, the real zealots, the 527 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: ones that would probably go on to cut bait, leave town, 528 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 3: go fight for their cause. 529 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: Right right. And here's one fact that many people may 530 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: miss when we hear the story, because of course the 531 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: riot is the huge, big tent item. 532 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 2: Right. 533 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: But later that year, on September seventeenth, eighteen sixty one, 534 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: when the legislature reconvened to discuss the riot, the aftermath 535 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: of the riot, and what could be construed as unconstitutional 536 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: actions on the part of the US President. On that day, 537 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: twenty seven state lefs legislatures, that is, one third of 538 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: the General Assembly were arrested and jailed by the FEDS 539 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: because Lincoln, you see, had suspended habeas corpus. 540 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 3: And habeas corpus being like rules of engagement kind of stuff. 541 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: Habeas corpus is the way a person can legally report 542 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: unlawful detention or imprisonment. It's ordering someone to bring a 543 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: detained person to a court to determine whether it's legal 544 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: to keep them in jail. Got it, So, suspending habeas 545 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: corpus means we could just. 546 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: Throw you in jail. It's sot of like how we 547 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 2: do with you know, Guantanamo Bay and stuff. 548 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: History is much more of a circle than a straight line. 549 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: So because they arrested so many people at once, the 550 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: legislative session was canceled and Maryland could not continue debating 551 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: secession or anti war movements. 552 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, not to mention that they were already under Union control. 553 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: Absolutely, But as we said before, a lot of those 554 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 3: Zealots decided to take off and go fight for the Confederacy. 555 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 3: One of them, surprise surprise, was the guy who wrote 556 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 3: that poem no Way, Yeah, James writer Randall. He took 557 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 3: off and went to Georgia. And there's a really great 558 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 3: quote in this article from NPR Maryland gets closer to 559 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 3: retiring state song that calls Northerners scum. That kind of 560 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 3: sums up Maryland's position in the war in general. 561 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,920 Speaker 2: From their state archives. 562 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 3: It described it as walking a tight rope between the 563 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 3: Union and the Confederacy. In addition to being physically between 564 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: the two sides, Maryland depended equally on the North and 565 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: the South for its economy. Although Maryland had always leaned 566 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 3: towards the South, culturally, sympathies in the state were as 567 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: much pro Union as they were pro Confederate, and. 568 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: Now let's use our fast forward buttons just a bit. 569 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: The Soul, which exists for decades afterwards as a very 570 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,320 Speaker 1: popular protest song in some circles, becomes the official state 571 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: song of Maryland in nineteen thirty nine, and remained so 572 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: until this year. Until just a few months ago, as 573 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: we record this, in March of twenty eighteen, state senators 574 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: approved a bill that would strip Maryland, My Maryland, of 575 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: its designation as the official state song and rebrands this 576 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: pro Confederate anthem as an historical tune. 577 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 578 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 3: Kind of a demotion, I guess, yeah, which makes sense 579 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 3: in the cultural moment that we're having with racist monuments. 580 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, they're getting covered up, getting pulled down by 581 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 3: the people. 582 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 2: You know. In some Georgia we got a lot of 583 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 2: that going. 584 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and some still remain today because, to 585 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: paraphrase William Faulkner, history is not over. It's not even 586 00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: the past yet, you know. And interesting point there, Noel 587 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty nine, that was the same year Gone 588 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: with the Wind was released, So I wonder if culturally 589 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,280 Speaker 1: there was an impetus to tap into that romanticized picture 590 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 1: of anti Bell himself. 591 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny in a place Athens, Georgia, you may 592 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,439 Speaker 3: know from its place in the music industry with rim 593 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: and the B fifty twos and all that. 594 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,720 Speaker 2: I lived there for a while and there are. 595 00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: A few Confederate monuments there, and somebody, it being kind 596 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 3: of a hipster college town, some clever, clever devil put 597 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,280 Speaker 3: up a sign on one of the monuments saying second place. 598 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 3: You know, I'm buying that the Confederates they lost the war, 599 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 3: So why do we need monuments people? 600 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 2: Some people' say it's heritage. It did. 601 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 3: It's just you know, memorializing our history rather than these 602 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 3: negative ideas. You know, there's an argument to be made 603 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 3: for that, I suppose, but I think there's probably better 604 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 3: ways of doing it than having giant obelisks in the 605 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: middle of intersections. 606 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: Right and there. There's also a lot of interesting stuff 607 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: we won't have time for today, regarding the plagiarization of 608 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: melodies in state songs, the weird in between status that 609 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: a lot of state songs occupy. Like, there are other 610 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: state songs that have used the melody of otanimbam right. 611 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: There are other state songs that for a while had 612 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: derogatory things or at least at the very least implications 613 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: and illusions inherent in the verse. And at this point, 614 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: as Maryland moves this song from an official status to 615 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: slightly less prestigious historical status, we have to ask ourselves 616 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: how many of these vestiges remain statues. As you said, 617 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 1: nol obelisk songs. I mean, hopefully there's not like a 618 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,959 Speaker 1: racist state bird or something. 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