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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up?

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Speaker 1: Straight Fire Fam with me? Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Tuesday, January.

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Speaker 1: I know what you guys are gonna sing, Monday Night

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Speaker 1: Football Super wild Card. We get it was terrible. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. I told you guys,

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Speaker 1: I love the Rams and they rolled thirty four to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Love the game, loved every minute of it. Watched it

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Speaker 1: with the fam. We were not at so FI, had

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Speaker 1: some friends who were a little bit of fomo, not much,

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Speaker 1: just it felt exciting. For the Rams playoff game in

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Speaker 1: get to that later in the week, and the forty

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Speaker 1: Niners beat the Packers, there's a chance that the Rams

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Speaker 1: could host the NFC championship game. That's so fine. I

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Speaker 1: would I will surely try to get to that. Bad boy,

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Speaker 1: But um, I gotta tease our guest, who is excellent Mosley.

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Speaker 1: He's covered the Cowboys forever. Uh. He does a podcast

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Speaker 1: with Edward Er called the Doomsday Pod. Uh, we cover

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I guess that's a suitable name. We go

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Speaker 1: over the free agent situation in Dallas, the dan Quinn stuff,

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Speaker 1: the Kellen Moore stuff. Um, I'm gonna say it's funny.

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Speaker 1: We we spoke Monday afternoon, right before the Rams game.

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Speaker 1: I talked to Matt and of course then I go

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Speaker 1: text a bunch of people that I know around the league, like, man,

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Speaker 1: is this real? Is just real? And the vibe you

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Speaker 1: start getting is holy shit, is dan Quinn trying to

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Speaker 1: get McCarthy fired so he can steal the job. And

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Speaker 1: and let me lay it out, we could do the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals in this sect, but I really have to get

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Speaker 1: this off my chest because you start to look at

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Speaker 1: and you're like, why are Rappaport and Schefter? Like I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Every six hours reporting who dan Quinn is

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Speaker 1: interviewing with, it's coming out like frequently every single interview.

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Speaker 1: You might as well put up the private entities flag

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Speaker 1: in on you know what he's having for breakfast? Like

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Speaker 1: dan Quinn's agent is really doing work. But then you

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Speaker 1: look at the teams that Quinn is interviewing with, and

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Speaker 1: let's keep it real, they're not better jobs than the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys head coaching job would be okay, dan Quinn's

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Speaker 1: agent say so, yeah, he's going to uh he's gonna

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Speaker 1: is Quinn's if he wants it. Okay, Denver, decent job, right,

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Speaker 1: good roster, um, you have to face Herbert twice and

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Speaker 1: Mahomes twice. Good luck with that. And the Raiders were

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Speaker 1: playoff team despite all their dysfunction. So I don't think

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Speaker 1: you're gonna win in Denver, but you don't have a quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And then dan Quinn's gonna interview in Miami. Okay, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know the g the GM Greer has butchered everything there,

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Speaker 1: and you've got to of who I don't know what

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Speaker 1: the hell he is, but he certainly is no Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: And then you've got Chicago where dan Quinn's gonna interview,

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Speaker 1: Let's see nothing. I mean, the best thing that could

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Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers wants to go to Broncos. But um,

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Speaker 1: going to be koombaya. Tom Brady went to Tampa, him

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Speaker 1: remember the bye week and Brady's first year, they hashed

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Speaker 1: it out. They said we're gonna do it my way, uh,

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you guys could try to pooh pooh that

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Speaker 1: So Aaron Rodgers is as ornery as Tom Brady and

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Speaker 1: I got four head coaching options, just so you know, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: He's got all these Cowboys fans saying, and even a

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, is this really the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: narrative like dan Quinn turned around the defense, did he

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Speaker 1: And Quinn's probably sitting here like, look what I do?

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Speaker 1: feels really sketchy that dan Quinn is trying to I think,

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Speaker 1: and you can this is undeniable. Dan Quinn would rather

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Speaker 1: another punt and then you know the Kyler pick six.

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Speaker 1: flex um and cow Herd straight up asked me why

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Speaker 1: Cowboys fans, you know there. Uh yeah, but he's gonna know.

424
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Speaker 1: I'm just saying they know, they understand he's gonna be

425
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna let go. It's not like he'll

426
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Speaker 1: wake up ten years from now and go I think

427
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Stephen some more, say Steve Stephen. Stephen

428
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,359
Speaker 1: has plenty of say but uh but yeah, So what

429
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: he goes through is he goes through great grief and

430
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: feeling horrible for about forty eight hours and then he's

431
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,920
Speaker 1: sort of able to move on and they'll see if

432
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: what happens with this coaching cycle, and then by the

433
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 1: time like the they all end up at the Senior

434
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: Bowl or the the the you know, the combine, like

435
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 1: he'll have it in his mind that they're got as

436
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 1: great a chance as anybody going in the next seat.

437
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,639
Speaker 1: That's that's how he operates, all right, before we get

438
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 1: to the coaches, because that's a great point on Kellen

439
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: Moore dan Quinn replaced. I hadn't even thought of Quinn

440
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: replacing to save it. But I want to ask specifically

441
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: about the Niners game. I know that we want to

442
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: play the blame game in the media. Blame McCarthy is easy,

443
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: and it feels the idiotic an amateur hour, but everybody

444
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: at ESPN is doing that, so it gets amplified. Matt,

445
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you, how is the a the offensive

446
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: line be Kellen Moore and see Doc? How are they

447
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 1: not taking arrows for what was an awful performance? Not

448
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: to mention Quinn starting the game, letting him go touchdown

449
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: field goal field goal, field goal, like right out of

450
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: the shoot. Your great defense with all this pressure can't

451
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: do anything to slow Garoppolo. Yeah, I think that's fair.

452
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: I just think fan bases and maybe huge networks go

453
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: for the easiest target, and the easiest target right now

454
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: is o' fire McCarthy. Now he makes that pretty easy

455
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 1: because he makes sort of my numbing um mistakes during

456
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: a ballgame. Like Kyle Shanahan told ed Warder before the game,

457
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: Pollard is the guy who jumps off the tape to me, like,

458
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: he's the guy I'm scared of. Pollard had six touches

459
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: in that game, and and so yeah, I think there's

460
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 1: a lot to go around. Um, did the old line

461
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: get worked? Yeah? Did they get much pressure on Jimmy

462
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: G who while he's somewhat mobile, it's not like he's

463
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray back there. No, they had all these great

464
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: pass rushers and they didn't get home. And they still

465
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: had a chance because he made one of those crazy

466
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy G type throats where he threw you know. And

467
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 1: but what you're right about Dak. Part of the thing

468
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: is Dak has so many defenders based on sort of

469
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: weird things. Like most quarterbacks, we can just have a

470
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: discussion and go this guy either played poorly, played well.

471
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: Some guys getting defined suddenly by changing uh locations, you know,

472
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Stafford became like the greatest quarterback

473
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: ever just because he went to the ramps. And everybody's like,

474
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: oh man, this is they're great now, this guy is unbelievable.

475
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, I thought he just I mean, he

476
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 1: is good, he's fine, But but it's like we change

477
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: our whole thinking. Dak is such a great leader, and

478
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: he's so great in front of people that that he

479
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 1: sort of gets this credit for this sort of this

480
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: leadership thing. We treat him like Stephen Covey or some

481
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: kind of like motivational speaker. I mean, it's like, it's like, well,

482
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: he got this Tony Robbins guy at quarterback. You know,

483
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: he's really when you really bring it up. And plus

484
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: by the end of the week and by the Pro

485
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: Bowl or whatever, he'll probably end up there is like

486
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: an alternate or something. And and what we'll look at

487
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,760
Speaker 1: is we'll look at his numbers. Oh my gosh, did

488
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 1: you see that this year? He was thirty seven touchdowns,

489
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: ten interceptions. The guy had a great year. And and

490
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: unfortunately that's the way people look at these things. The

491
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 1: Cowboys had a record setting year on offense, and yet

492
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: they haven't particularly been good on offense. In two months.

493
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: They put up numbers, fraudulent numbers against second stringers at Philly,

494
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: uh at Washington in two of the last three games

495
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 1: of the of the of the season. They put up

496
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: big numbers in one of those games against Atlanta, and

497
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: and yet we just sort of forget about that, and

498
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: everybody just goes, oh, man, they had a great year offensively,

499
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: And by the time Kellen Moore gets in front of

500
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 1: people whose interviews I mean, it won't be about oh

501
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,160
Speaker 1: my gosh, what happened to the Cowboys gonna pla out.

502
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: It'll be like, oh my, look at the numbers that

503
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: he's put up with Dak Prescott. Yeah, huh, I hadn't.

504
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: I hadn't thought of that angle, because frankly, I don't

505
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: see Kellen Moore as a head coach. But one more

506
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: quick question, Um, this whole Zeke Tony Pollard thing. If

507
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Shanahan and I plant that seed ed warder,

508
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: and I know that everybody's gonna hear that, Oh wait

509
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: a minute, Tony Pollard is the guy that scares them.

510
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: Oh it's almost like it's messing with the Cowboys heads

511
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: a little bit like Zeke doesn't scare us. Guys go

512
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: ahead and keep feeding in the ball. And then it

513
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: causes like dissension because anybody watching knows Zeke looks like

514
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: he's got a piano on his back. Matt, Honestly, he

515
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: is running slow. He's not a threat. He's he should

516
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: be a third down back because he's so good at

517
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: the blitz pickup. I don't know, is there is there

518
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: any chance Zeke is not back next year. It doesn't

519
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,679
Speaker 1: look like in his contract there's a good out this

520
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: offseason next off season. Yeah, I like your idea. Just

521
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: you make him the highest paid third down back in

522
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: the game. Um No, I think they could cut him.

523
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. I've looked at the financeers

524
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: this saying. So many of these things are tied to

525
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: They kind of needed to make this decision a while back.

526
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: But I would move off of him if you could.

527
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's um, it's like, well, I know, but um,

528
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 1: they did it with Murray. They were able to move

529
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Speaker 1: away from him although he was a free agent and

530
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: uh and so that was different even though he was

531
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 1: coming off like huge numbers. But Murray had born in

532
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: the tank honestly at this point and the you're you're

533
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: you know what you said is true about the piano thing.

534
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 1: It was kind of funny last night. I don't know

535
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: if everybody picks up on these things at home, because

536
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: you're not like at the games, going to the interview rooms.

537
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: But like he ran into the interview room in his uniform,

538
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: and he could not wait to tell reporters that he

539
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: had this PCL. You know, I got this, Uh, I

540
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: got this posterior cruciate ligament issue, and we're gonna have

541
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: to see what to do about that. And I knew

542
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: stuff like this is gonna happen. We are only days

543
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: away from finding out that Dak played through some kind

544
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: of whatever, tearing his shoulders, and this is what happens.

545
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: You know, even they'll start dropping all these injuries on it.

546
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: So the Zeke is smart enough to realize, well, I

547
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: just had a subpar season. I just had I just

548
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: had twelve carries for thirty one yards. I better get

549
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: in here and tell him what my injury was. Yet

550
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: Yet they could have rested him. But at any point

551
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: they had powered, they had uh, you know, Clement, Corey, Clement,

552
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: they had all these other guys. They could have put

553
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: it running back in these games they even have to

554
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: have They let me think about that, they started Zeke

555
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,239
Speaker 1: in a meaningless game against the Eagles at the end

556
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: of the season, even though the guy has been limping

557
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: around and looking horrible for much of the season. It's

558
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: a good point. They just don't. They don't really. It's

559
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: literally kind of like Mike McCarthy will just kind of

560
00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: go through the locker room and Zeke's like, I'm not

561
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: coming out and coach like, okay, good, I'm not I'm

562
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: not taking you out. He's sort of I mean, this

563
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: guy just sort of takes orders from other people, and

564
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: that's that's what Jerry likes. That's what Jerry likes. So

565
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh. Jerry wants it, yes

566
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: man for himself. But I didn't think he'd want that

567
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: for for Ezekiel Elliott, right, no, he But I'm just

568
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: saying he was set for a head coach with Zeke.

569
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: I think Jerry kind of likes the Zeke's attitude of

570
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: like I'm not coming I want to say, and I'm tough. Yeah,

571
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: I think he. I think I think that feeds into

572
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: Jerry's like, well, if he wants to play, who were

573
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 1: we to sit him? And that that's that's a ridiculous

574
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: way of thinking. But again, that's why he was the

575
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: first player running in there to express what injury he'd

576
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: been playing through. Interesting. Fox Sports Radio has the best

577
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580
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: Before we get to the coaches, one more thing. I

581
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: looked at the free agent list Matt. I count all

582
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: boat Star safeties, the three safeties who played the most snaps.

583
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: I count one offensive lineman, Connor Williams, Um too, defensive

584
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: lineman including Randy Gregory, Michael Gallup who has an unfortunate injury,

585
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: and tight end Dalton Schultz. You know, depending on how

586
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: you count who's the starter. They have eight starters potentially

587
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: who are free agents, including Laton vander esh Um. Matt.

588
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: It seems like there could be massive upheaval on this team.

589
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: Now there's no major stars. But I thought Curse was

590
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: pretty good in the secondary Um. I thought Connor Williams

591
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: was okay, Randy Gregory was impactful. Is this a pivotal offseason?

592
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: It feels given the DAK contract, that they're gonna pay

593
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 1: out and it's gonna start kicking in. I believe next

594
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: year heavy Well, yeah, and it's already kicking in because

595
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: of the way to seeing hit and the way it

596
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: breaks down. I I you know, I think Shultz, some

597
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: of these players they like enough for instance, some of

598
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: this will be if dan Quinn return earns his defensive

599
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: coordinator or head coach because Curse kzy. You know, some

600
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 1: of these guys are tied to him, um Kean O'Neil.

601
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: These are people that he was familiar with, and so

602
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: some of these players are tied to uh dan Quinn

603
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,479
Speaker 1: now and and I don't know if these guys are

604
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: gonna be like big players, Like Schultz was really good

605
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: this year, and and I think he has a nice

606
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: rapport with with dak So and I don't think he's

607
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: gonna like be out there getting huge money on the

608
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: open market. Um of all those players you mentioned, like

609
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: if you watch Connor Williams this year or last year,

610
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't see anybody falling all over themselves to get him.

611
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys feel like they probably have in McGovern

612
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: have a replacement in house for him. So some of

613
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: those guys can walk and they would be okay. But

614
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: but I do I mean, Curse was good, yeah, really good.

615
00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: And Donovan Wilson's a nice player at safety, so there,

616
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: I mean, there's some things I just don't think of

617
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: it as like huge upheople because there's some sort of

618
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: ties to these guys that if they want them, I

619
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: think they could kind of talk them into somewhat team

620
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: friendly deals. Interesting. I could see gallup for sure, right. Uh,

621
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 1: he isn't gonna get paid good with the injury. Hey,

622
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: I'll come back to Dallas one year to move it

623
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: deal and then I got a big one. I think

624
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: that's good. I think that's right. And uh, yeah, he

625
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: said Cedric Wilson. Uh is somebody else that they like?

626
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: And you looked good? Yeah, I mean he had a

627
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: bad I thought he should have caught that one deep

628
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: ball on the final drive. He seemed to adjust late. Um,

629
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: I think it was right. You remember the player talking

630
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: about and I mean he's got to start wearing sunglasses

631
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: for when the indoor stadium they have sun in his eyes.

632
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: He's got to do better than that. So it's interesting

633
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: this whole Damn QUI who who do you think Matt

634
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: right now more likely to be the head coach if

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Speaker 1: McCarthy's fired, Dan Quinn or Kellen Moore Quinn? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think they're sold on. I mean like Kellen. But

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Speaker 1: and I think there was some part of them that thought,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, could this be the next Sean Payton,

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Speaker 1: and we don't want to lose them like Sean. That's

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Speaker 1: that's how they think, and they love the relationship that

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Speaker 1: he has with Dak. I think the teams have probably

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Speaker 1: cooled on him given the way the Cowboys finished this season.

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Speaker 1: But I mean there was a point this year where

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Speaker 1: Kellen was a huge hot name and uh again, he's

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Speaker 1: not as much as he was. He's still gonna get

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Speaker 1: some interviews, but I I think dan Quinn would be

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Speaker 1: the guy they would would make the head coach part

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Speaker 1: of partially because um not so much about it. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's done a good job with the defense, but it's

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Speaker 1: like what he's done with Michael Parsons, Trevon Diggs. There's

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Speaker 1: a thought that he has, like I got, do you

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Speaker 1: think Diggs is that good? Well? I mean, I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you can look at a guy that had

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Speaker 1: eleven interceptions and think he's not that good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I think I think there there are teams that

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Speaker 1: do pick on him and throw at him and he'll

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Speaker 1: give up some big plays on you. But I think

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Speaker 1: from an instinctive standpoint, I don't think he played a

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Speaker 1: great game yesterday. But I think I think he did

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Speaker 1: have a great season, and uh I I think he

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Speaker 1: can under the right coaching, which again they're hoping to

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Speaker 1: bring Quinn back. I just I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: can turn your nose up, uh at a guy who

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Speaker 1: had eleven interceptions in a season. Okay, fair enough to

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Speaker 1: not turn the nose up. But I would use overrated

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Speaker 1: if anything. I mean, I know he had all the picks,

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Speaker 1: but you know, according to Pro Football Focus, and again

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Speaker 1: they're not the Bible, they graded out a quarterbacks he was,

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Speaker 1: Uh he seems like a gambler, which I get is fine,

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Speaker 1: but he gave up more receiving yards than any other

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. Uh. Yeah, I'll say I'm just

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Speaker 1: I'll say this the last I mean not to get

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Speaker 1: into a big debate about this. I'm just saying, over

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Speaker 1: the years, they haven't had any uh, defensive backs with

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Speaker 1: ball skills, even going back to like you almost have

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00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: to go all the way back to Dion Terrace Stewman

677
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: was Okay, they were just in the cornerback wilderness forever.

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Speaker 1: And so they finally got a guy who catches the

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Speaker 1: ball back there receiver and so and yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 1: as pff. I mean, I I'm like, um, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. I mean, I love guys

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Speaker 1: that sit around in chart football games, but I'm just

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Speaker 1: not Uh. Well, they did have Michael Parson's number one

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Speaker 1: at linebacker to Marcus Lawrence three off the edge cursed

685
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: was one of the highest rated safety, so they they

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00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: did get good gratings. The problem is the offensive line

687
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Speaker 1: was so highly graded and then they get dump truck

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Speaker 1: by the Niners. I'm just stunned, Matt. I'll wrap up

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Speaker 1: with this, Um, do you like if dan Quinn does leave?

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's leaving for sure? If he could

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Speaker 1: be the head coach of the Bears versus stay in Dallas?

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Speaker 1: Is the d C because that's what it sounds like.

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Speaker 1: He's got the Bears and Broncos if he wants it. Oh,

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Speaker 1: how could you not? I mean looking at how good

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Speaker 1: the Bears were on offensive see so then with that

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks that way? How could how could you not want

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Speaker 1: to take that? Oh? I but I think I think

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Speaker 1: it's the it's the it's a uh just the the

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Speaker 1: casher that comes with that franchise. Whether whether I know

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Speaker 1: what you're saying, I get it too. Um, I I yeah,

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00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 1: he would take that gig. Now he didn't even want

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Speaker 1: to really interview with Jacksonville and and certainly I think

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00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: they have a more exciting quarterback in play in Jacksonville

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Speaker 1: and maybe at I mean, like who wouldn't want to

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Speaker 1: follow Urban Meyer after that to Bacle you go there,

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Speaker 1: You're going to go in there and win like six

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Speaker 1: or seven games. You're gonna look great. But um, I

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Speaker 1: think I absolutely think he would take the Chicago job

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Speaker 1: overstaying as the Cowboys defense cordator. But I think he'll

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Speaker 1: be wise about it. I mean, it would have I think,

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Speaker 1: I think, and I think Jerry might make a play here.

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00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 1: Now here's where it gets really interesting. Jerry could try

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Speaker 1: to give Kelly Kellen could use the interviews to get

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Speaker 1: like a really ice bump and and it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: the same thing. It's what they did with Garrett and

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Speaker 1: Wade Phillips all those years ago. They they would have

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Speaker 1: a guy making a ton of money and it's like

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Speaker 1: a coaching waiting type deal. And then at that point

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Speaker 1: it would be dead man walking for McCarthy. And I no,

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Speaker 1: but McCarthy has no say no, say right, So I

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Speaker 1: guess Sorry, I'm sure people listen to that and think

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Speaker 1: I'm crazy. Why would you would you rather be a

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Speaker 1: head coach than the d C. I mean, Matt, you

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Speaker 1: really want to be the head coach where you have

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Speaker 1: no quarterback? In Denver? You gotta face Mahomes and Herbert

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Speaker 1: twice and oh yeah, Derek Carr if he stays. The

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00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 1: Raiders went to the playoffs too. You're not winning in Denver.

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Speaker 1: I mean you you could be the head coach, that's great,

729
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: but with no quarterback, you're gonna be gone in three years, right, Matt,

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Speaker 1: versus at least you've got a playoff team in the

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Speaker 1: worst division of football. No. Yeah, Once you get Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers in there at Denver, you'll be just fine. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I guess you're not really thinking about that. No,

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Speaker 1: I Hight, I'm with you. I'm with you on some

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Speaker 1: of the I think Quinn has, now that he's kind

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Speaker 1: of been through the ringer of getting fired. I think

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Speaker 1: he will be smart about it and try to put

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Speaker 1: himself in the best possible, uh situation. But given the

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Speaker 1: lack of candidates, um Quinn, I think he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to kind of beat and if he doesn't see

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Speaker 1: what he wants. He can come right back to the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys and then he'll give them next year. McCarthy goes

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Speaker 1: in kind of on the hot seat already, and so

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Speaker 1: you have a great uh option as the interim head

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00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: coach um, just like they had with Garrett when they

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Speaker 1: had Wade Philips. So Quinn might stay. You've been in

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00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: sports media long enough, Matt. You know that there is

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Speaker 1: a hey, do you want your own TV show? And

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Speaker 1: then it sounds awesome? Yeah, yeah, got great, and then

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00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: you know what happens like it just things go sideways

751
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: and it's done. It's canceled a year and round on

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Speaker 1: the streets. Now dan Quinn's been to a Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: slightly different. I just some of these like Eric b enemy,

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Speaker 1: I long said, I don't know what he I'm not

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00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: jumping at crappy jobs. If I'm the enemy, I'm staying

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Speaker 1: with Pat Mahomes. And when are you going to Super Bowls?

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Speaker 1: First going to freaking New York Giants and being toasted

758
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: in a year or two and then you're never getting

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Speaker 1: another look. Yeah, I'm just saying sometimes you know those

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Speaker 1: there's there's just folks that are It's like, wait, if

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Speaker 1: I don't take this gig. It may never come back around.

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Speaker 1: And given some of the hiring practices in the league,

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Speaker 1: you can understand how sometimes people go, well, it might

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Speaker 1: not be the best situation, but I may not get

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Speaker 1: another chance. But I'm with you if you're someone who's wired. Now,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the enemy. I mean, sometimes

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00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: I feel like the enemy has wanted some of these

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Speaker 1: gigs and for whatever reason, he just doesn't get the opportunity.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't know if it's fair

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Speaker 1: or not, but I think that might be the case

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Speaker 1: with him. But uh, I mean, I I yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a whole another conversation. But I think, um, I think

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Speaker 1: the Cowboy. I think there's a ninety percent chance if

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00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy you just run it back with Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: and then uh we start talking. We're about a month

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00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: away from talking to Cowboy. Super Bowl again, all right,

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Speaker 1: Matt Moseley doomsaypod with Edward or check it out Matt,

778
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: great stuff, Thanks again, and uh, enjoy the off season

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00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: in Dallas. I'm sure you'll be all over the news

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Speaker 1: and the internet social media. Good work, man, Hey, I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thanks for having me,