WEBVTT - The OTP | Pregame - Week 6 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:16.880 This is the OTP pre Game presented by Farm Bureau 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:20.479 Health Plans. When it's crunch time for your health coverage, 0:00:20.480 --> 0:00:24.360 trust Farm Bureau Health Plans to implement the perfect game plan. 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:28.280 With over seventy seven years of protecting Tennesseeans, they know 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:31.120 how to win. With Amy Wells, I'm Mike Keith, our 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.680 special guest in the Snickers hot Seat today from Titan's 0:00:34.800 --> 0:00:37.000 radio coach Dave McGinnis. Welcome. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:38.400 Oh you want snickers. 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.720 They really satisfy, they really do. Snickers hot Seat, Snickers 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:46.400 hot Seat. Taking all of this home because Halloween's coming up. See, 0:00:46.440 --> 0:00:47.640 I need candy to give. 0:00:47.520 --> 0:00:48.800 Out, So you're going to be that guy. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:51.800 Yeah, that's the key if you give out a full 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:56.000 candy bars. Yeah, you are the greatest house on the board. 0:00:56.000 --> 0:00:58.959 Well, and that's why Coach Mike's taking this home, not just. 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:02.040 This the jar, the whole jar. 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:02.640 Yeah. 0:01:02.680 --> 0:01:04.160 I don't know that you may get stopped at the 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:04.800 front for that. 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:06.559 Just take it, just run. 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:11.000 Let's promote your show MAC Talk on one four to 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:14.280 five The Zone every Tuesday night at sixth Central on 0:01:14.360 --> 0:01:16.360 our flagship station one O four to five The Zone. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.800 As I mentioned, you and RHTT Brian do that show. 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.440 That is an incredibly you have your own show and 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:22.960 it's an incredibly popular show. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:25.880 Congratulations, Well thank you know it. When they came to 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.039 us with the you know, I came to you about 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.320 it and said they wanted Rett. 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:30.640 And I to do it. 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:32.520 The thing that they said, though, Mike, was look, we'll 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:36.480 screen these calls. I said, I don't want one call screened. 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:40.200 No kidding, I want everybody to come through because I mean, 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:45.199 first of all, with Rhett and I doing it, we'll 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.880 talk to the people and whether they're happy, which they 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:51.040 are when you win, are there mad when you don't win? 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.920 Let them talk. I love doing it. It's a lot 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:56.279 of fun. It goes so fast. 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:57.400 It's a really good show. 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.840 Well, thank you. It's yeah Tuesday at six o'clock. 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:04.160 Tuesday's sixth Central. It's only on one oh four to 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.840 five the zone. They have a good app so you 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.600 can stream it on the app. If you're not in 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:10.680 the region, you would really enjoy that, and you could 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:14.560 you could call in. I'm sure they have a toll 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:17.720 free number. I don't know did they charge long distance anymore? 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:18.639 No? 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.480 No, no, Now, each get a diam a call. 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.520 Okay, all like a one eight hundred numbers. 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.160 Well, I used to have an eight hundred number on 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.799 my talk show. Did you when I got the eight 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:30.640 hundred number, my show really took off. 0:02:30.680 --> 0:02:32.320 That's when you knew you had arrived? 0:02:32.560 --> 0:02:32.920 I did. 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:35.240 That's awesome. 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:36.720 Were the show blew up? 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:37.679 We're not there yet? 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:38.520 Really? 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:39.840 Did no eight hundred number? 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:40.200 You? 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.480 No? Sorry, guess that's not a thing anymore. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:44.079 Well, I think it might be. 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:45.720 We we've passed that time. 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:47.920 Well, yeah, I mean you don't have to pay for 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:49.280 long distance anymore, that's. 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:51.560 Right, or so you know. But that's the key too. 0:02:51.800 --> 0:02:53.840 In a lot of people talk about how much their 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.919 phone costs them now, and I remind him, I said, 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.160 remember we used to have to pay long distance. 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:01.240 You had to pay per text message. 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:03.040 Well, yeah, but I mean we just to have to 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:06.600 pay high long distance bills in the nineteen nineties because 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:09.240 I was living in Knoxville. My family was all here, 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:12.160 and so my long distance bills were a couple hundred 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.120 dollars a month long. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:17.040 Wait until after six o'clock. Six o'clock. 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:18.639 Yep, that's exactly right. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.079 I remember all of these things. I am that I'm 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:22.840 old enough. 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:25.760 For that trip down memory lane. Yeah, Okay, OTP pre 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:28.800 game is about five questions. For our special guest in 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:31.920 the Snickers hot seat, it is coach Dave McGinnis. Here 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:35.080 is topic question, whatever you want to call it. Number one. 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:39.200 Some teams like the Titans run a three to four 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:44.960 base defense, meaning they have three defensive linemen. Other teams 0:03:45.560 --> 0:03:48.800 like the Indianapolis Colts run a four to three defense, 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.560 and so you would take that to mean they have 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:55.360 a base front of four defensive alignment. Here's the question. 0:03:56.240 --> 0:04:00.000 Their reality seems to be in today's world of defense, 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.360 it really doesn't matter anymore. So are there any real 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:10.520 appreciable differences between a four to three defense at a 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.400 three four defense in twenty twenty four? 0:04:13.800 --> 0:04:18.760 Technically yes, Realistically no, okay, because everybody, most everybody on 0:04:18.839 --> 0:04:21.880 third down, third and seven plus is a four man front. 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.720 Is a four man front. Then you take your linebackers 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:27.280 on your extra defensive back, you'll mug up to make 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.880 a five man front. If you want the true three 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:33.480 four defenses. The people used to run where you've got 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:36.400 somebody on the nose and you've got two tackles that 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:39.039 are playing head up. They were playing two gaps. There's 0:04:39.240 --> 0:04:42.480 very few two there's not any two gap defenses anymore. 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:44.200 And by two gap, I mean this with a three 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:47.000 four defense. You played your nose and he played either 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.200 the left or the right of the center, playing head 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:54.320 up the two defensive tackles. Okay, we're on the inside 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:57.520 shoulder of the tackles or the outside shoulders of the guards, 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.800 but they were also they would play two apps and 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.360 your linebackers. This is how you used to teach linebackers, 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:09.080 your linebackers behind the line, Mike and Amy. Now, if 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.200 I'm teaching you, and this is exactly the way that 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.360 that I would teach it, I would tell you, if 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.160 you're going to the right, I want you to hit 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:18.320 with your hit with your right arm, but keep your 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.480 left your back side arm free. You understand what I'm saying. 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:26.040 Right flipper your right flipper and then keep your left 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:31.960 arm free. So you're basically two gap. Yeah, So you're you're, you're, you're, 0:05:31.720 --> 0:05:34.279 you're that, and that's it right there, don't hit Mike. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:38.680 But now everybody, whether you're three four, four, three, everybody's 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.960 mostly single gap, right, they're single there's their single gap stuff. 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.440 And so there's very few that I don't know of 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:49.480 anybody that really two gaps anymore, uh, other than when 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.320 you've got a defensive tackle like the Titans have now 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:55.520 in Big Sweat. Big Sweat is big enough and strong 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:57.960 enough to be able to play the front side and 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:00.440 then and then come across the face and shed a 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:02.800 man and go the other way. Most people now are 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:03.919 single gap defenses. 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:07.200 He would have been all world. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.520 He would have been the nose tackle that everybody would 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.440 have dreamed about, right because he could. He would eat 0:06:14.520 --> 0:06:16.440 up the center and then one of the guards would 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.920 have to help on him, and then you'd have a 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:20.280 free rusher from somewhere. 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:23.520 I knew he played well against Miami when we were 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.279 doing the game, but going back and watching it, I 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:29.839 could not get over how well he played and he 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.440 was playing different places than he had played in the 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.680 first three games with Jeffrey Simmons out well. 0:06:35.720 --> 0:06:38.160 And the reason was because Jeffrey Simmons is normally a 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.600 three technique. Jeffrey Simmons normally goes to the tight end 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.000 side and it is on the outside shoulder of the 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:46.880 guard to the tight end side, and Big T Sweat 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.520 is a shade technique which is away from the three 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.320 technique but between the center and the guard well with 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:56.320 Jeff out then Big Sweat play the three technique. He 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:58.240 moved over to the three technique and he would he 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:01.160 would play that. And I agree with you. I had 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.400 an idea that he was playing pretty well because he 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.440 was showing up on the perimeter of the defense and 0:07:06.560 --> 0:07:11.040 showing up to make tackles for yards lost. I mean 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:15.040 he was running down a chance. Tried to tried to 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.000 circle him one time, and he walked him down with 0:07:18.080 --> 0:07:20.480 you know, with an angle to the outside. This is 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:21.400 a special player. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:27.040 My favorite part of Sweat is that he hustles. And 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.120 Jim Washburn would have liked his hustle. 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:30.080 Oh, he'd loved him. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:33.120 I like that he had a defensive lineman. It's like 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:37.200 James Lynch ninety seven, who's in there playing right now 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.520 and played a good game at Miami. That guy hustles, 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:45.520 and Coburn hustles. I mean defensive lineman who hustle. That's 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:49.960 a big deal because their impact even five yards down 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:53.000 the field can be massive with the way they can 0:07:53.080 --> 0:07:53.600 hit guys. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.880 You were here with Jim Washburn, absolutely and all you 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:59.440 ever heard him talk about was was get to the ball, 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.200 under the ball, get to the ball, get to the ball, 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:05.240 and that's Tracy Rocker. That's Tracy Rocker. And when he 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:08.160 first started with you know with with with T. Sweat, 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:10.800 I can go back, we can go back to the 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:14.720 summer summertime worked on his stance because he was he 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:19.600 was playing too high and then so yes needs to 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.800 keep it up. Big Jeff needs to get back in 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:22.440 the mix too. 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:23.720 Question about T. 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.840 Sweat because we have in the first four weeks five 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.600 weeks of the season, talked a lot about how well 0:08:30.680 --> 0:08:32.760 he's been playing and how well he's been showing up 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:36.600 is a little bit of how he's playing at his hustle, 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:42.320 his aggressiveness, his ability to just disrupt everything is part 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.320 of that due to his youth and the fact that 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.080 he's able to play kind of out of his mind 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:51.319 because you see young players sometimes play. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:52.960 With because he's not so beat up. 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.960 He's not so beat up and he hasn't had that 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.520 experience yet, so there's almost you don't know what you 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.520 don't know, so you just kind of play however you 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.640 would play. Is there a little bit of that and 0:09:05.679 --> 0:09:08.600 do you have to worry about that? As he continues 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:10.680 to play and as he continues to have the wear 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.800 and tear of the season kind of adjusting for that 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.360 as a coach because he's going to find out that 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:20.520 you can't just play full out every minute of every play, 0:09:20.520 --> 0:09:22.679 even though you want to. You have to protect your 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:25.760 body and you have to there's also that aspect of it. 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:28.200 Well, you learn, you learn as a pro. But that 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:32.280 also that's why it's important to rotate those guys inside 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.400 that used and all the great defenses I've been involved with. 0:09:35.440 --> 0:09:38.400 We could rotate those big dudes because to your point, 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.400 it takes a lot out of you, it really does. 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:43.720 But the thing that if you watch Devandre and then 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:45.640 we'll get off at to and Andre, but you watch him. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.040 That's what he did at Texas. Here's the same thing 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:52.040 at Texas. Now he's in better physical condition now because 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:57.080 he bought into what Ran and Anthony Robinson and those 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.000 when they went down to Huntsville to talk to him. 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.400 This was part of the program. You're gonna have to 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:04.840 get into NFL condition to be able to do what 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:09.120 you're talking about against better competition week in. And he 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.600 bought into that and he's doing it. The other thing 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.520 that Tracy Rocker did and he started off immediately with 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.720 him was he got him lower in his stance, because 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.920 when he came in here, he was playing too high 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.240 in his stance, and sooner or later you can get 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:26.520 neutralized by doing that. He's learned how to play lower 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:30.480 in his stance, and so everything now is magnified with 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:31.160 his power. 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.400 And I'm sorry that's such a big deal to your 0:10:34.440 --> 0:10:38.240 point about some of the technical things, because some of 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.400 the people who are joining us for the OTP might 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:42.320 be saying, well, why would they not teach him that 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:46.280 in high school and college? And certainly they taught him, 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:50.400 but remember you're getting kids in high school after school, 0:10:51.160 --> 0:10:52.840 you know, you get him at four o'clock and you 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:56.400 got him for two hours, and then in college you 0:10:56.520 --> 0:10:59.800 only have seventeen hours a week with them in terms 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:04.280 of preparation, and so you're just like with receivers, you're 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.680 trying to get guys ready to play games, to win 0:11:06.800 --> 0:11:10.320 games in high school and games in college. Now, this 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:16.000 is your job. How you eat, how you go to meetings, 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:20.040 watching KeAndre Coburn do his job, watching Jeff Simmons do 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:22.959 his job. Being called to the GM's office or the 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:27.800 assistant GM's office to go over performance. These are things 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:33.120 that some guys get better as pros because the detail 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:37.120 of the job enables them to refine the technique. 0:11:37.160 --> 0:11:39.280 Well, that's also true. And the other thing is when 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.160 you've got big human beings like he is, like a 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:44.679 lot of people coming in this, they've been a big 0:11:44.760 --> 0:11:46.840 human being their whole live, right m hm, And so 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:51.120 they're able to get away with just swatten flies however 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:55.160 they want to do it. Now you're competing against other 0:11:55.360 --> 0:11:58.360 big human beings. So the technical aspect of it and 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.960 the total buy in that you're talking about has to 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:04.240 come into it. And when that does, then you've got 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:04.880 something special. 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.280 And you said it, well, you have to credit the 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:11.080 organization for what their plan was with this. 0:12:11.040 --> 0:12:15.199 Player had a very had a very specific plan, and 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:17.920 they made sure that that plan was laid out and 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:21.920 agreed on face to face, just like we are here 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.760 before they ever pulled the trigger on drafting. 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:28.320 Internally, and then to the player one hundred percent, they 0:12:28.640 --> 0:12:31.880 you know, they told to and Andre pretty quickly, this 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:35.360 is our level of expectation of you, and this is 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.319 how we're going to do it. And it may be 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.439 different than how James Williams is dealt with or Cedric 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:45.360 Gray has dealt with But just like in an office, 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:47.120 everybody's not dealt with the same. 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:53.680 Everybody every on a football team, everybody is treated fairly, 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.199 but they're not treated the same. That makes sense. 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.920 I think it was Jeff Fisher who said at one point, 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:03.840 we have the we have the same set of rules 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:06.120 and they're applied differently to everyone. 0:13:05.720 --> 0:13:06.240 And that's it. 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:09.040 But that's life. 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:09.760 That's a fact. 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:14.520 How it is, that's the fact. World's discussion. Yeah, second topic, 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:20.880 staying with defense. Gus Bradley is the defensive coordinator in Indianapolis. 0:13:21.520 --> 0:13:26.240 How will a Gus Bradley defense challenge the Titans offense 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:26.880 this Sunday? 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.400 Gus is always of course, I know Gus very well. 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:35.199 Gus has always been a four down lineman defense, so 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:40.040 it's all based on the front. But Gus has always 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:44.320 had playmakers at the linebacker position to make us four 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:46.480 to three work. We talked about four three and three 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:50.920 four early in this discussion. The linebackers in a four 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:55.000 to three, they're very specific. The middle linebacker is different 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.240 than the will linebacker who lines up to the open side. 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:02.360 The will linebacker is very different than the sam who 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:06.160 lines up to the tight endside. They've got different skill sets, 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.079 different skill sets. Take it back to when I was 0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:13.640 coaching linebackers here. Steven Tullick was our middle linebacker. His 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.800 skill set was the mic. He's the mic. His skill 0:14:16.840 --> 0:14:18.679 set was completely we were a four to three defense. 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:22.080 His skill set was completely different than Keith Bullock, who 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:25.760 was the will or the open side backer. The weak side, yes, 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.480 whose skill set is completely different than the sam or 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.040 the strong side David Thornton, and they've got to work 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.880 in conjunction. But those are different skill sets for those players. 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.080 And so that's what Gus has always done. He's always 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:44.040 had bigger players up front, especially on the inside three 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:47.840 technique shade guys on the edge that can win one 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:51.040 on one. But then he's had very specific skill sets 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.360 and he's got that at Indy, especially with zay R. 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.240 Franklin and especially with EJ. 0:14:56.400 --> 0:14:56.720 Speed. 0:14:56.840 --> 0:14:59.360 Those guys can play. And then you're talking about the 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:03.520 edge guy. Quity Pay is a big guy in the 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.640 edge that's hard to move. He's two hundred and seventy pounds. 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.440 And then Dio Dangbo on the other side right now, 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.080 I mean he's two hundred and eighty five pounds and 0:15:13.160 --> 0:15:15.440 can bring it off the edge. And he's playing very well. 0:15:15.480 --> 0:15:18.400 I mean those guys are those guys are heavy loads, 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:23.479 much like what we saw from Green Bays edge guys 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:26.800 in terms of their size. Yeah, they're not the two 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:29.000 hundred and forty five pound edge guys. 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.360 The other guy, the other guy that you that we 0:15:32.440 --> 0:15:35.120 all liked coming out of the draft and especially down 0:15:35.160 --> 0:15:39.000 at the Singer Bowl, was a lat too, and Layu 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:43.240 Latu and Layou latuah Is is very special off of 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.280 the edge. He's different than those other two that you 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.480 just mentioned, but he was the most complete pass rusher 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:51.320 coming out in this draft because he wasn't just a 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:54.680 one trick pony. He's got counter moves that he had 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:56.760 already developed. And of course, you know he was two 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.880 years medically retired because of his neck and then made 0:16:00.240 --> 0:16:03.040 tremendous resurgence. Uh, we're gonna see a lot of him 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:03.720 on Sunday. 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:06.480 So if you're the Titans offensive line, what do you 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.560 do to give yourself some sort of an advantage against 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:13.600 a group of guys that are large and strong. 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:18.400 We haven't even mentioned the best one. No, who's the 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:20.320 best one? Grover Grover Stewart? 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.760 Oh yeah, I mean, questions still stand. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.400 Yeah, yeah, but but but but but you're correct going in, 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:29.440 going into it. You've got to secure the edges against 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:33.360 this group because your center guard triangle. At least you've 0:16:33.360 --> 0:16:36.080 got a chance with Grover Stewart and with and with 0:16:36.120 --> 0:16:38.760 as fast as the linebackers feel but you can. You've 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.240 got to secure your edges with this defense. 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:45.560 You have to, all right, topic number three, and this 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:47.400 is one where we're going to rely on you as 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:50.440 a former defensive coordinator and a long time defensive coach, 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:54.240 and we want we want the truth here the Colts, 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.560 not you know, not not the usual lies. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.000 Don't lie. We'll take your snickers. 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:00.000 Yeah, We'll take your the whole jar away. 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.400 Then I'll tell the truth. Okay, I need this for Halloween. 0:17:03.640 --> 0:17:07.679 Well, the Colts quarterback situation, which is up in the 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:10.960 air as we talk about it, either Anthony Richardson or 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:14.480 Joe Flacco. With it being up in the air and 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:19.040 being just how different this forty year old almost guy 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:22.560 is compared to maybe the most athletic quarterback in the NFL. 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:28.959 How much angst is really happening right now? Not knowing 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:33.119 the Colts quarterback in the Titans defensive meeting room. 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:35.920 You know, the structure of their offense, but the way 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:39.280 you call it and what you emphasize will be different. 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:43.199 Because those two quarterbacks, as you mentioned, we all know, 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.320 we've watched it. They're polar opposites. Oh yeah, complete polar opposites. 0:17:47.800 --> 0:17:48.400 You've got a. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:52.119 Young guy that's an amazing athlete that I mean is 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:54.840 a wild horse rider right now, but can hurt you 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.439 doing a lot of different things, even doing things he 0:17:57.480 --> 0:17:58.400 doesn't know he's doing. 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.360 Okay, you've got it crazy, but that's true. 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.080 But you've got a veteran that can read it, can 0:18:06.119 --> 0:18:09.040 read out anything, is not going to get rattled, still 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:12.040 has enough arm to reach any point of the field. 0:18:12.320 --> 0:18:16.240 So they are so polar opposite. The structure of their offense, 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.200 you can surround, but the specifics, depending on which quarterback 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.880 it is, you have to have specific And if they 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.560 both play, let's just say they both play, okay, So 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:31.159 you're going to have to when you're calling it. No, okay, Now, 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:36.120 the RPO system is alive with this young quarterback. And 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.720 now if you've got Flacco in there, you're going to 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:40.879 have to be really really sharp in the back end, 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.119 don't give any false looks and be late getting to 0:18:44.119 --> 0:18:45.920 where you're supposed to get or he'll find it. 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:49.920 It doesn't feel like coach Mack thinks there's a lot 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:53.600 of angst in the room, just extra preparation. 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.320 No, because you've got tape on both of them. Okay, 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:58.320 you've got tape on both of them. But what you 0:18:58.400 --> 0:19:01.880 do and what you call and what you emphasize, and 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:04.879 they're making a point of it this week. If this 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:07.600 is the dude, this is what we've got to emphasize. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.520 If this is the dude, we may have to step 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:12.840 on the clutch and shift gears a little bit because 0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:13.680 here's what he does. 0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:18.040 So it's more studying and it's more paperwork essentially, But 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:21.639 once you're in the game, you're gonna still do what 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.440 you're gonna do. It's just the things you're looking for 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:25.240 change life. 0:19:25.280 --> 0:19:27.840 Yeah, but it's a mindset. It's a mindset when you're 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:31.240 playing defense. When your mindset, because I talk about RPOs, 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:36.000 I mean, if the young guy plays, he's liable to 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:39.480 go anywhere at any time, and even if he goes 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.240 the wrong place, he might out athlete you. That's what 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.720 you have to That's the thing you can't prepare for, 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:48.600 but you have to mentally know that that's a possibility. 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:52.479 The other guy, the veteran. You've got to be a 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.720 point on and spot on with your placements wherever you are, 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:57.920 because he'll find you if you're out of place. 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.920 Boy, you blew my mind with some thing you said, Coach, 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:03.879 I hadn't even considered the possibility that they might just 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:04.919 play both guys. 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:06.280 The ultimate plot twist. 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.160 Well, yeah, they absolutely could, because you don't I mean, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.840 we don't know, right, we don't, and we don't know, 0:20:11.920 --> 0:20:13.840 and we don't know. We don't know how healthy Richardson 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:18.320 really is. And let's just rewind a little bit to 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:20.760