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Speaker 1: radio coach Dave McGinnis. Welcome.
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Speaker 1: game is about five questions. For our special guest in
Speaker 1: the Snickers hot seat, it is coach Dave McGinnis. Here
Speaker 1: is topic question, whatever you want to call it. Number one.
Speaker 1: Some teams like the Titans run a three to four
Speaker 1: base defense, meaning they have three defensive linemen. Other teams
Speaker 1: like the Indianapolis Colts run a four to three defense,
Speaker 1: and so you would take that to mean they have
Speaker 1: a base front of four defensive alignment. Here's the question.
Speaker 1: Their reality seems to be in today's world of defense,
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter anymore. So are there any real
Speaker 1: appreciable differences between a four to three defense at a
Speaker 1: three four defense in twenty twenty four?
Speaker 3: Technically yes, Realistically no, okay, because everybody, most everybody on
Speaker 3: third down, third and seven plus is a four man front.
Speaker 3: Is a four man front. Then you take your linebackers
Speaker 3: on your extra defensive back, you'll mug up to make
Speaker 3: a five man front. If you want the true three
Speaker 3: four defenses. The people used to run where you've got
Speaker 3: somebody on the nose and you've got two tackles that
Speaker 3: are playing head up. They were playing two gaps. There's
Speaker 3: very few two there's not any two gap defenses anymore.
Speaker 3: And by two gap, I mean this with a three
Speaker 3: four defense. You played your nose and he played either
Speaker 3: the left or the right of the center, playing head
Speaker 3: up the two defensive tackles. Okay, we're on the inside
Speaker 3: shoulder of the tackles or the outside shoulders of the guards,
Speaker 3: but they were also they would play two apps and
Speaker 3: your linebackers. This is how you used to teach linebackers,
Speaker 3: your linebackers behind the line, Mike and Amy. Now, if
Speaker 3: I'm teaching you, and this is exactly the way that
Speaker 3: that I would teach it, I would tell you, if
Speaker 3: you're going to the right, I want you to hit
Speaker 3: with your hit with your right arm, but keep your
Speaker 3: left your back side arm free. You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Right flipper your right flipper and then keep your left
Speaker 3: arm free. So you're basically two gap. Yeah, So you're you're, you're, you're,
Speaker 3: you're that, and that's it right there, don't hit Mike.
Speaker 3: But now everybody, whether you're three four, four, three, everybody's
Speaker 3: mostly single gap, right, they're single there's their single gap stuff.
Speaker 3: And so there's very few that I don't know of
Speaker 3: anybody that really two gaps anymore, uh, other than when
Speaker 3: you've got a defensive tackle like the Titans have now
Speaker 3: in Big Sweat. Big Sweat is big enough and strong
Speaker 3: enough to be able to play the front side and
Speaker 3: then and then come across the face and shed a
Speaker 3: man and go the other way. Most people now are
Speaker 3: single gap defenses.
Speaker 1: He would have been all world.
Speaker 3: He would have been the nose tackle that everybody would
Speaker 3: have dreamed about, right because he could. He would eat
Speaker 3: up the center and then one of the guards would
Speaker 3: have to help on him, and then you'd have a
Speaker 3: free rusher from somewhere.
Speaker 1: I knew he played well against Miami when we were
Speaker 1: doing the game, but going back and watching it, I
Speaker 1: could not get over how well he played and he
Speaker 1: was playing different places than he had played in the
Speaker 1: first three games with Jeffrey Simmons out well.
Speaker 3: And the reason was because Jeffrey Simmons is normally a
Speaker 3: three technique. Jeffrey Simmons normally goes to the tight end
Speaker 3: side and it is on the outside shoulder of the
Speaker 3: guard to the tight end side, and Big T Sweat
Speaker 3: is a shade technique which is away from the three
Speaker 3: technique but between the center and the guard well with
Speaker 3: Jeff out then Big Sweat play the three technique. He
Speaker 3: moved over to the three technique and he would he
Speaker 3: would play that. And I agree with you. I had
Speaker 3: an idea that he was playing pretty well because he
Speaker 3: was showing up on the perimeter of the defense and
Speaker 3: showing up to make tackles for yards lost. I mean
Speaker 3: he was running down a chance. Tried to tried to
Speaker 3: circle him one time, and he walked him down with
Speaker 3: you know, with an angle to the outside. This is
Speaker 3: a special player.
Speaker 1: My favorite part of Sweat is that he hustles. And
Speaker 1: Jim Washburn would have liked his hustle.
Speaker 3: Oh, he'd loved him.
Speaker 1: I like that he had a defensive lineman. It's like
Speaker 1: James Lynch ninety seven, who's in there playing right now
Speaker 1: and played a good game at Miami. That guy hustles,
Speaker 1: and Coburn hustles. I mean defensive lineman who hustle. That's
Speaker 1: a big deal because their impact even five yards down
Speaker 1: the field can be massive with the way they can
Speaker 1: hit guys.
Speaker 3: You were here with Jim Washburn, absolutely and all you
Speaker 3: ever heard him talk about was was get to the ball,
Speaker 3: under the ball, get to the ball, get to the ball,
Speaker 3: and that's Tracy Rocker. That's Tracy Rocker. And when he
Speaker 3: first started with you know with with with T. Sweat,
Speaker 3: I can go back, we can go back to the
Speaker 3: summer summertime worked on his stance because he was he
Speaker 3: was playing too high and then so yes needs to
Speaker 3: keep it up. Big Jeff needs to get back in
Speaker 3: the mix too.
Speaker 2: Question about T.
Speaker 4: Sweat because we have in the first four weeks five
Speaker 4: weeks of the season, talked a lot about how well
Speaker 4: he's been playing and how well he's been showing up
Speaker 4: is a little bit of how he's playing at his hustle,
Speaker 4: his aggressiveness, his ability to just disrupt everything is part
Speaker 4: of that due to his youth and the fact that
Speaker 4: he's able to play kind of out of his mind
Speaker 4: because you see young players sometimes play.
Speaker 1: With because he's not so beat up.
Speaker 4: He's not so beat up and he hasn't had that
Speaker 4: experience yet, so there's almost you don't know what you
Speaker 4: don't know, so you just kind of play however you
Speaker 4: would play. Is there a little bit of that and
Speaker 4: do you have to worry about that? As he continues
Speaker 4: to play and as he continues to have the wear
Speaker 4: and tear of the season kind of adjusting for that
Speaker 4: as a coach because he's going to find out that
Speaker 4: you can't just play full out every minute of every play,
Speaker 4: even though you want to. You have to protect your
Speaker 4: body and you have to there's also that aspect of it.
Speaker 3: Well, you learn, you learn as a pro. But that
Speaker 3: also that's why it's important to rotate those guys inside
Speaker 3: that used and all the great defenses I've been involved with.
Speaker 3: We could rotate those big dudes because to your point,
Speaker 3: it takes a lot out of you, it really does.
Speaker 3: But the thing that if you watch Devandre and then
Speaker 3: we'll get off at to and Andre, but you watch him.
Speaker 3: That's what he did at Texas. Here's the same thing
Speaker 3: at Texas. Now he's in better physical condition now because
Speaker 3: he bought into what Ran and Anthony Robinson and those
Speaker 3: when they went down to Huntsville to talk to him.
Speaker 3: This was part of the program. You're gonna have to
Speaker 3: get into NFL condition to be able to do what
Speaker 3: you're talking about against better competition week in. And he
Speaker 3: bought into that and he's doing it. The other thing
Speaker 3: that Tracy Rocker did and he started off immediately with
Speaker 3: him was he got him lower in his stance, because
Speaker 3: when he came in here, he was playing too high
Speaker 3: in his stance, and sooner or later you can get
Speaker 3: neutralized by doing that. He's learned how to play lower
Speaker 3: in his stance, and so everything now is magnified with
Speaker 3: his power.
Speaker 1: And I'm sorry that's such a big deal to your
Speaker 1: point about some of the technical things, because some of
Speaker 1: the people who are joining us for the OTP might
Speaker 1: be saying, well, why would they not teach him that
Speaker 1: in high school and college? And certainly they taught him,
Speaker 1: but remember you're getting kids in high school after school,
Speaker 1: you know, you get him at four o'clock and you
Speaker 1: got him for two hours, and then in college you
Speaker 1: only have seventeen hours a week with them in terms
Speaker 1: of preparation, and so you're just like with receivers, you're
Speaker 1: trying to get guys ready to play games, to win
Speaker 1: games in high school and games in college. Now, this
Speaker 1: is your job. How you eat, how you go to meetings,
Speaker 1: watching KeAndre Coburn do his job, watching Jeff Simmons do
Speaker 1: his job. Being called to the GM's office or the
Speaker 1: assistant GM's office to go over performance. These are things
Speaker 1: that some guys get better as pros because the detail
Speaker 1: of the job enables them to refine the technique.
Speaker 3: Well, that's also true. And the other thing is when
Speaker 3: you've got big human beings like he is, like a
Speaker 3: lot of people coming in this, they've been a big
Speaker 3: human being their whole live, right m hm, And so
Speaker 3: they're able to get away with just swatten flies however
Speaker 3: they want to do it. Now you're competing against other
Speaker 3: big human beings. So the technical aspect of it and
Speaker 3: the total buy in that you're talking about has to
Speaker 3: come into it. And when that does, then you've got
Speaker 3: something special.
Speaker 1: And you said it, well, you have to credit the
Speaker 1: organization for what their plan was with this.
Speaker 3: Player had a very had a very specific plan, and
Speaker 3: they made sure that that plan was laid out and
Speaker 3: agreed on face to face, just like we are here
Speaker 3: before they ever pulled the trigger on drafting.
Speaker 1: Internally, and then to the player one hundred percent, they
Speaker 1: you know, they told to and Andre pretty quickly, this
Speaker 1: is our level of expectation of you, and this is
Speaker 1: how we're going to do it. And it may be
Speaker 1: different than how James Williams is dealt with or Cedric
Speaker 1: Gray has dealt with But just like in an office,
Speaker 1: everybody's not dealt with the same.
Speaker 3: Everybody every on a football team, everybody is treated fairly,
Speaker 3: but they're not treated the same. That makes sense.
Speaker 1: I think it was Jeff Fisher who said at one point,
Speaker 1: we have the we have the same set of rules
Speaker 1: and they're applied differently to everyone.
Speaker 3: And that's it.
Speaker 1: But that's life.
Speaker 3: That's a fact.
Speaker 1: How it is, that's the fact. World's discussion. Yeah, second topic,
Speaker 1: staying with defense. Gus Bradley is the defensive coordinator in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: How will a Gus Bradley defense challenge the Titans offense
Speaker 1: this Sunday?
Speaker 3: Gus is always of course, I know Gus very well.
Speaker 3: Gus has always been a four down lineman defense, so
Speaker 3: it's all based on the front. But Gus has always
Speaker 3: had playmakers at the linebacker position to make us four
Speaker 3: to three work. We talked about four three and three
Speaker 3: four early in this discussion. The linebackers in a four
Speaker 3: to three, they're very specific. The middle linebacker is different
Speaker 3: than the will linebacker who lines up to the open side.
Speaker 3: The will linebacker is very different than the sam who
Speaker 3: lines up to the tight endside. They've got different skill sets,
Speaker 3: different skill sets. Take it back to when I was
Speaker 3: coaching linebackers here. Steven Tullick was our middle linebacker. His
Speaker 3: skill set was the mic. He's the mic. His skill
Speaker 3: set was completely we were a four to three defense.
Speaker 3: His skill set was completely different than Keith Bullock, who
Speaker 3: was the will or the open side backer. The weak side, yes,
Speaker 3: whose skill set is completely different than the sam or
Speaker 3: the strong side David Thornton, and they've got to work
Speaker 3: in conjunction. But those are different skill sets for those players.
Speaker 3: And so that's what Gus has always done. He's always
Speaker 3: had bigger players up front, especially on the inside three
Speaker 3: technique shade guys on the edge that can win one
Speaker 3: on one. But then he's had very specific skill sets
Speaker 3: and he's got that at Indy, especially with zay R.
Speaker 3: Franklin and especially with EJ.
Speaker 5: Speed.
Speaker 1: Those guys can play. And then you're talking about the
Speaker 1: edge guy. Quity Pay is a big guy in the
Speaker 1: edge that's hard to move. He's two hundred and seventy pounds.
Speaker 1: And then Dio Dangbo on the other side right now,
Speaker 1: I mean he's two hundred and eighty five pounds and
Speaker 1: can bring it off the edge. And he's playing very well.
Speaker 1: I mean those guys are those guys are heavy loads,
Speaker 1: much like what we saw from Green Bays edge guys
Speaker 1: in terms of their size. Yeah, they're not the two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty five pound edge guys.
Speaker 3: The other guy, the other guy that you that we
Speaker 3: all liked coming out of the draft and especially down
Speaker 3: at the Singer Bowl, was a lat too, and Layu
Speaker 3: Latu and Layou latuah Is is very special off of
Speaker 3: the edge. He's different than those other two that you
Speaker 3: just mentioned, but he was the most complete pass rusher
Speaker 3: coming out in this draft because he wasn't just a
Speaker 3: one trick pony. He's got counter moves that he had
Speaker 3: already developed. And of course, you know he was two
Speaker 3: years medically retired because of his neck and then made
Speaker 3: tremendous resurgence. Uh, we're gonna see a lot of him
Speaker 3: on Sunday.
Speaker 4: So if you're the Titans offensive line, what do you
Speaker 4: do to give yourself some sort of an advantage against
Speaker 4: a group of guys that are large and strong.
Speaker 1: We haven't even mentioned the best one. No, who's the
Speaker 1: best one? Grover Grover Stewart?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean, questions still stand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but but but but but you're correct going in,
Speaker 3: going into it. You've got to secure the edges against
Speaker 3: this group because your center guard triangle. At least you've
Speaker 3: got a chance with Grover Stewart and with and with
Speaker 3: as fast as the linebackers feel but you can. You've
Speaker 3: got to secure your edges with this defense.
Speaker 1: You have to, all right, topic number three, and this
Speaker 1: is one where we're going to rely on you as
Speaker 1: a former defensive coordinator and a long time defensive coach,
Speaker 1: and we want we want the truth here the Colts,
Speaker 1: not you know, not not the usual lies.
Speaker 2: Don't lie. We'll take your snickers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, We'll take your the whole jar away.
Speaker 3: Then I'll tell the truth. Okay, I need this for Halloween.
Speaker 1: Well, the Colts quarterback situation, which is up in the
Speaker 1: air as we talk about it, either Anthony Richardson or
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. With it being up in the air and
Speaker 1: being just how different this forty year old almost guy
Speaker 1: is compared to maybe the most athletic quarterback in the NFL.
Speaker 1: How much angst is really happening right now? Not knowing
Speaker 1: the Colts quarterback in the Titans defensive meeting room.
Speaker 3: You know, the structure of their offense, but the way
Speaker 3: you call it and what you emphasize will be different.
Speaker 3: Because those two quarterbacks, as you mentioned, we all know,
Speaker 3: we've watched it. They're polar opposites. Oh yeah, complete polar opposites.
Speaker 1: You've got a.
Speaker 3: Young guy that's an amazing athlete that I mean is
Speaker 3: a wild horse rider right now, but can hurt you
Speaker 3: doing a lot of different things, even doing things he
Speaker 3: doesn't know he's doing.
Speaker 1: Okay, you've got it crazy, but that's true.
Speaker 3: But you've got a veteran that can read it, can
Speaker 3: read out anything, is not going to get rattled, still
Speaker 3: has enough arm to reach any point of the field.
Speaker 3: So they are so polar opposite. The structure of their offense,
Speaker 3: you can surround, but the specifics, depending on which quarterback
Speaker 3: it is, you have to have specific And if they
Speaker 3: both play, let's just say they both play, okay, So
Speaker 3: you're going to have to when you're calling it. No, okay, Now,
Speaker 3: the RPO system is alive with this young quarterback. And
Speaker 3: now if you've got Flacco in there, you're going to
Speaker 3: have to be really really sharp in the back end,
Speaker 3: don't give any false looks and be late getting to
Speaker 3: where you're supposed to get or he'll find it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like coach Mack thinks there's a lot
Speaker 1: of angst in the room, just extra preparation.
Speaker 3: No, because you've got tape on both of them. Okay,
Speaker 3: you've got tape on both of them. But what you
Speaker 3: do and what you call and what you emphasize, and
Speaker 3: they're making a point of it this week. If this
Speaker 3: is the dude, this is what we've got to emphasize.
Speaker 3: If this is the dude, we may have to step
Speaker 3: on the clutch and shift gears a little bit because
Speaker 3: here's what he does.
Speaker 4: So it's more studying and it's more paperwork essentially, But
Speaker 4: once you're in the game, you're gonna still do what
Speaker 4: you're gonna do. It's just the things you're looking for
Speaker 4: change life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a mindset. It's a mindset when you're
Speaker 3: playing defense. When your mindset, because I talk about RPOs,
Speaker 3: I mean, if the young guy plays, he's liable to
Speaker 3: go anywhere at any time, and even if he goes
Speaker 3: the wrong place, he might out athlete you. That's what
Speaker 3: you have to That's the thing you can't prepare for,
Speaker 3: but you have to mentally know that that's a possibility.
Speaker 3: The other guy, the veteran. You've got to be a
Speaker 3: point on and spot on with your placements wherever you are,
Speaker 3: because he'll find you if you're out of place.
Speaker 1: Boy, you blew my mind with some thing you said, Coach,
Speaker 1: I hadn't even considered the possibility that they might just
Speaker 1: play both guys.
Speaker 2: The ultimate plot twist.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, they absolutely could, because you don't I mean,
Speaker 3: we don't know, right, we don't, and we don't know,
Speaker 3: and we don't know. We don't know how healthy Richardson
Speaker 3: really is. And let's just rewind a little bit to
Speaker 3: what we've been watching when we study tape. They've had
Speaker 3: success with Flacco.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you could also let's just say the owner
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure the young quarterback played, which happens
Speaker 1: with owners sometimes. Yes, you could probably make sure that
Speaker 1: was okay. If you played them both. You could get
Speaker 1: what you need to do because Flacco's playing well, and
Speaker 1: you could make mister ear say happy because the young guy.
Speaker 3: Well, here's how you could couch it too. I mean,
Speaker 3: because we don't we don't know if if young Richardson
Speaker 3: is completely healthy yet or not.
Speaker 1: Right, So we'll just we'll.
Speaker 3: Play him to a limit, but we know that we
Speaker 3: have this safety belt ready to go in Hmmm.
Speaker 4: The more he talks, the more that seems like what
Speaker 4: we're going to see on Sunday. And that's just I mean,
Speaker 4: that's based on nothing but my brain going.
Speaker 1: That's why he's the best.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean, that's that's why.
Speaker 1: He's got a poster on the wall here in the studio. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just him.
Speaker 3: People talk about that poster. That's so good.
Speaker 1: You did.
Speaker 3: You did me such a solid, y'all did by putting
Speaker 3: that up in here.
Speaker 1: Well we had to. Well then it's Ciavera named the
Speaker 1: studio after you.
Speaker 5: He did.
Speaker 2: He called it the Coach Max Studio.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the trip we can't really do.
Speaker 3: That, you understand. Chico and I have got a real history.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, which is as a legitimate He was a
Speaker 3: legitimate dude and a room full of legitimate dudes.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, yep. All right. So final question on topic
Speaker 1: three is, as the Titans prepare for the possibility of
Speaker 1: both Richardson and Flacco playing quarterback for the Colts on Sunday,
Speaker 1: does that change personnel grouping?
Speaker 3: Yes, it does, Okay, it absolutely, it absolutely does because
Speaker 3: you know, if you've got if you've got Richardson in there,
Speaker 3: there's always the possibility. And it depends on down and distance. Sure,
Speaker 3: it's down in distance, and it's it's it's the personnel
Speaker 3: that they have. You know, are they gonna be in
Speaker 3: twelve with two tights? Are they gonna be in eleven?
Speaker 3: They've lost Michael Pittman Junior? How much eleven are they
Speaker 3: gonna feature Are they gonna feature Moley Cox Moore now
Speaker 3: that they're big combat catchers out of there. That all
Speaker 3: depends but to say yes or no to your question.
Speaker 3: The answers yes.
Speaker 1: What's interesting. We hadn't even brought up Pittman at this
Speaker 1: point not playing, but that is such a huge deal
Speaker 1: because Pittman and we talked about this yesterday. Yeah, Pittman
Speaker 1: is targeted so much, and in games against the Titans,
Speaker 1: eight games he's played against the Titans, he's been targeted
Speaker 1: in the average of ten point three times. Last year
Speaker 1: he was targeted almost ten times a game. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are very few receivers in the NFL who are
Speaker 1: targeted that much, who they just you know, want to
Speaker 1: get the ball to. I mean, for Richardson, that's a
Speaker 1: big deal because he's a safety blanket for Flacco. It's
Speaker 1: a big deal because if you're a veteran quarterback, you're
Speaker 1: always going to throw the ball to the dude who's
Speaker 1: going to catch it and make something happen that you
Speaker 1: can count on. That's a that's a big loss for them,
Speaker 1: not just because he's a good player, but because he's
Speaker 1: such a big part of what they do.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was really yesterday when we were talking
Speaker 3: and you were bringing all of this up, because you,
Speaker 3: I mean, as you always do, you researched it down
Speaker 3: to the nth degree. I mean, it was it was fascinating. Really,
Speaker 3: I didn't realize, thank you, I didn't realize how much
Speaker 3: he had been But here here's here's Michael Pittman Junior.
Speaker 3: Because I had Michael Pittman senior when I was coaching
Speaker 3: at the Cardinals. He doesn't have to be open to
Speaker 3: throw it to him. That's a huge key. He's a
Speaker 3: massive combat catcher and has gotten better and better ever
Speaker 3: since he's been in the league. So if especially with
Speaker 3: a young quarterback, if you've got somebody you can spin
Speaker 3: it to that doesn't have to be open, or you
Speaker 3: can throw him throw him open, or you can throw
Speaker 3: him when he's covered and he'll still come down with it.
Speaker 3: Huge advantage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, six four two three.
Speaker 3: Well, and he's a lot like d Hop, different size,
Speaker 3: but d Hop doesn't have to be open to throw
Speaker 3: it to him. They'll find out a way to make
Speaker 3: the catch. And so I didn't realize the numbers that
Speaker 3: you put out. I mean, the targets are impressive. We
Speaker 3: don't have to worry about it. He's not gonna play.
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Speaker 1: Seat topic number four. We're putting you on the spot,
Speaker 1: We're narrowing you down here.
Speaker 2: I like this bringing the heat.
Speaker 1: Who is who is the Titans best player in September?
Speaker 3: The best player in September? I would have to say,
Speaker 3: h t Sweat.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, he shown up every week. He did played
Speaker 1: a lot of snaps too.
Speaker 3: He's shown up every week. And the other thing is
Speaker 3: is he's gotten better every week.
Speaker 1: Would you have said to Andre Sweat.
Speaker 4: I might have said, Nick Folk, Oh that's a good one. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's been consistent. He's had, I mean, scored a lot
Speaker 4: of points for the team.
Speaker 3: Greatest what Mike Keith makes great calls up there, and
Speaker 3: of course you hear me laughing sometimes when he says it.
Speaker 3: But his best call, uh in the Miami game was
Speaker 3: after he kicked he started, he kicked the fifth one,
Speaker 3: he said, kick his down, it's up.
Speaker 1: You know what it is? Well, it was so good.
Speaker 1: I assume the audience is with us at that. It
Speaker 1: was so good.
Speaker 2: Well, who's yours? Mike?
Speaker 1: Nick Folk's a good one. Tom Very Sweat is a
Speaker 1: good one.
Speaker 2: Good job Mack.
Speaker 1: I probably I probably would have gone with Harold Landry
Speaker 1: and some of that is carryover from the second half
Speaker 1: of last year. For Harold to stay hot, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's on a pace for seventeen sacks this year and
Speaker 1: he is he could get there. He could get there.
Speaker 1: He could absolutely get there. And here's what he needs
Speaker 1: to get there. He needs for Big Jeff to be backing,
Speaker 1: so we start getting more slide protection, because I mean,
Speaker 1: Harold can beat most tackles one on one in this
Speaker 1: if he gets enough shots at him. You know who's
Speaker 1: had some shots but just hasn't been able to close
Speaker 1: the deal yet that I think is going to close
Speaker 1: the deal is I agree with you. Arden Key is
Speaker 1: so close to making so many big plays, and you
Speaker 1: just get this feeling that one of these weeks it's
Speaker 1: gonna be like crazy stupid and he's gonna have three
Speaker 1: or four sacks or something.
Speaker 2: He's going to be one of those guys.
Speaker 1: Really good's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: The Damn's gonna break and he's just going to have
Speaker 4: a game where he just plays out of his.
Speaker 1: Mind, kind of like the Titans defense with turnovers.
Speaker 2: Overall, Yeah, it feels like it's gonna be going to happen.
Speaker 3: Arden Key is and both of you are right. He's
Speaker 3: he's around the ball a lot, just like just like
Speaker 3: the lateral that he picked up, you know, in Miami.
Speaker 3: He's around the ball a lot. So I agree with
Speaker 3: both of you.
Speaker 1: It's coming all right. Topic five, Who is the player
Speaker 1: who will bust out in October?
Speaker 3: I think Tony Pollard?
Speaker 2: Mmm, I like that one, Tony Pollard.
Speaker 3: I think I think Tony Pollard. I mean he and
Speaker 3: ty J. Spears are a really nice, really nice combo punch,
Speaker 3: you know. But but Tony Pollard has been Tony Pollard's
Speaker 3: had a couple of runs called back for holding calls,
Speaker 3: but he's been he's been hitting it pretty solid this
Speaker 3: whole year. I mean, he's he's coming downhill this whole time.
Speaker 3: There's not a whole lot if you watch them, if
Speaker 3: you watch their individual drills, they I mean they they
Speaker 3: legitimately work on drills of jump cutting and of one
Speaker 3: step hitting it. I mean he's he's doing a nice
Speaker 3: job of that. And when you've got to back to
Speaker 3: student that. Plus, I think our center guard triangle is
Speaker 3: getting really solid, and the left side of our offensive
Speaker 3: line there's some creases. I think Tony Pollard.
Speaker 2: I think Calvin Ridley.
Speaker 4: I think he he feels like a horse that just
Speaker 4: wants to like just take off, you know, a dog
Speaker 4: maybe or something that runs fast, but you have to
Speaker 4: hold him back until they can actually take off. And
Speaker 4: I feel like he's had enough times now to understand
Speaker 4: the system, understand the rhythm with Will Levice, understand kind
Speaker 4: of what the vibe is, and now he can really
Speaker 4: just explode and do what he does really well. And
Speaker 4: Coach Callahan even said, it's on me, It's on me
Speaker 4: to find ways to get this guy the ball because
Speaker 4: we need to use more of that, that skill set,
Speaker 4: that power, that all the things that he can do.
Speaker 4: And so I think that I think that this next
Speaker 4: month could kind of be the month of Calvin to
Speaker 4: hope we're both right too.
Speaker 1: I think it's Taj Spears Whiche's statistics don't show how
Speaker 1: well he's been playing. I mean, he's made some good plays.
Speaker 1: Tony has much better stats right now. I think Taja
Speaker 1: is on the verge of a really, really big statistical game.
Speaker 3: The thing about Taij Spears is Taij Spears with the
Speaker 3: ball in his hand is a tough out he's a
Speaker 3: tough one.
Speaker 1: He's a tough out to somebody on defense you think's
Speaker 1: ready to break out, ready to bust out, I've got one.
Speaker 1: Can I go first?
Speaker 3: Go ahead?
Speaker 1: A money hooker, money hooker, and he and Quandre Diggs
Speaker 1: have this thing going. I got to interview Quandre Diggs yesterday. Wow.
Speaker 1: I just blown away by Quandre Diggs. What a what
Speaker 1: a pro. And he was talking about Amani and how
Speaker 1: they are really coming together and what fans of Amani
Speaker 1: that he and Jamal Adams were even last year in Seattle.
Speaker 1: They as as players, they look at a player on
Speaker 1: another team who plays their position, says, man, this guy
Speaker 1: can go, this guy can really really go. And uh,
Speaker 1: I think he's playing well. I think both those safeties
Speaker 1: are playing well. And I think you're getting ready to
Speaker 1: see something big happen for Amani.
Speaker 3: I think a money money hooker is one of those
Speaker 3: safeties that does everything so well that sometimes you forget
Speaker 3: that he's back there right And the other thing about
Speaker 3: him is coming out of Iowa. When you remember when
Speaker 3: we go back and watch his Iowa film before we
Speaker 3: drafted him, he did everything.
Speaker 1: He did everything, and that's and that's and that's.
Speaker 3: That that that that's huge. And I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I think I think the addition back there, I think
Speaker 3: it helps a money but money hooker is a pretty
Speaker 3: stabilizing force. Oh yeah, right now, with what's going on
Speaker 3: back there.
Speaker 1: Good football player, you got one on defense. I do.
Speaker 4: And I'm looking at his stats right now. But you
Speaker 4: came to No, I'm looking at his stats, but you.
Speaker 1: Came did the show last night with Keith Bullock and
Speaker 1: he was watching the mess. He's a New York guy.
Speaker 3: He's a New York guy. Now, now you know what
Speaker 3: I put up with with him sitting next to me
Speaker 3: for seven years. For seven years.
Speaker 1: At one point we're having a discussion and I look
Speaker 1: over and uh, was it Lindor that hit the Grand Slam?
Speaker 2: I don't remember. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's going crazy. Oh yeah, he's going Lindor. He's going crazy.
Speaker 3: It's so great.
Speaker 1: And it's like we're doing a show that you don't care, now,
Speaker 1: you know. But the whole thing with Keith, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I'm just happy he's here. I love being around him.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 3: For all the years that I coached him, I sat
Speaker 3: like this and Keith set like where Amy was, except
Speaker 3: right here next to me the whole time. And every
Speaker 3: now and then, you know, we'd be watching tabe and
Speaker 3: I'd look over at him and he'd be doing something
Speaker 3: else nothing, you know what. But guess what. He's always paying.
Speaker 1: Attens, always taking it in. Yep, he's a smart guy.
Speaker 1: All right, who's your defensive guy that's gonna bust out?
Speaker 3: I think one of the inside linebackers.
Speaker 1: Okay, pick one.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Kenneth Murray or maybe both. I
Speaker 2: was gonna say Kenneth Burray. That's whose stats I have.
Speaker 1: That's who you were texting.
Speaker 2: No, that's not who I was texting. I was just
Speaker 2: looking up because.
Speaker 1: Looking at your daycare camera.
Speaker 2: No, I don't have those anymore.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: My brain for Shepford that he has been really disruptive
Speaker 4: so far this season, and I was looking to see
Speaker 4: if the numbers verified what was in my brain, which
Speaker 4: is Kenneth Murray.
Speaker 3: And he give me this for your brain.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 4: My brain was right and the numbers back it up,
Speaker 4: and here we go, yeah, here we go.
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Speaker 1: good quarterbacks so far in twenty twenty four, but they've
Speaker 1: not seen one like the Colts. Anthony Richardson, who we
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see. He's big, and he's fast, and
Speaker 1: he has a big time arm. So key number one
Speaker 1: for the Titans. Make Anthony Richardson work on every play.
Speaker 1: Give him nothing easy. Speaking of big plays waiting to happen,
Speaker 1: the Colts have several big play guys on offense. They
Speaker 1: have them everywhere. They can take a play the distance
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Speaker 1: this Sunday. Good tackling. Key number two. Key number three,
Speaker 1: continuing to improve protection. The Colts don't have one pass
Speaker 1: rusher whose numbers blow you away, but they have several
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Speaker 3: Job one of my favorites. I had to fight so
Speaker 3: hard to get ca that's another story. Okay, you had
Speaker 3: to get Kyle Vandenbosch twice, didn't you. I fought so
Speaker 3: hard to get him drafted. I mean I can't even
Speaker 3: say the.
Speaker 1: Words you fight to get him here as well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Jim Warshburn really fought hard to get him here,
Speaker 3: but we got That's a great story within itself. We'll
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Speaker 1: and then kickoff is set for twelve O to the
Speaker 1: Titans and the Colts from Nissan Stadium, the first division
Speaker 1: game for the Titans, actually the third one for the
Speaker 1: cold This is big. It's just really big because the
Speaker 1: Titans don't play another division game until November twenty fourth. Big.
Speaker 1: And then in the season with three division games, you
Speaker 1: win this one. If you're the Titans, you're two and three,
Speaker 1: one and oh in the division and you've dropped the
Speaker 1: Colts to oh and three in the division. That's huge.
Speaker 1: You move into second in the division. And granted, I
Speaker 1: mean you don't get anything for that right now, but
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you get a little momentum going to Buffalo,
Speaker 1: who has to play on Monday night football against the Jets.
Speaker 3: Everything you said in that little spiel, there is a.
Speaker 1: Fact to spiel. It doesn't sound positive. It is. For
Speaker 1: coach Dave McGinnis, thanks for being in the Snickers hot seat.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me here.
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