WEBVTT - A Dramatic new Dating Show (Part 2) 0:00:00.960 --> 0:00:04.880 This is the most dramatic podcast ever and I heart 0:00:04.960 --> 0:00:10.400 radio podcast. Welcome to the most dramatic podcast ever. I 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:16.280 am Chris Harrison alongside Lauren Ziema. Great show Today, the beautiful, 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.040 the talented Jennifer Nettles is going to be on the show. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:25.680 She is obviously country music singer superstar Sugarland has done 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:29.000 her own solo stuff as well, but now she is 0:00:29.160 --> 0:00:32.800 venturing into well my territory reality show host. She is 0:00:32.840 --> 0:00:35.960 hosting Farmer Wants a Wife, the new reality show on Fox. 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:40.960 Also on the show today, one of the farmers farmer Hunter. 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:45.800 I think you just like saying farmer. I do like 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:48.000 saying farmer he is I was gonna I was trying 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:49.639 to figure out a way how can I say he 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:53.920 is as full as a tick on a bloodhound. Lots 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.360 of rednecks sayings and lines on Farmer ONTs a Wife. 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:00.520 It's the new show on Fox where four farmers are 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:04.640 finding love, trying to find love, but not giving up 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:07.440 who they are, which is they're farmers. They're living on 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:10.160 the land. So we got four men from the heartland 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:13.160 and we have women from all across the country vying 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.720 for their love and attention. Although not all of them 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:17.920 are up for this. You know. The show had me 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.520 thinking because of the format of it, the way that 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:24.720 the women move in right away with them. They see 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.000 these guys whole real lives right from the start, and 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.080 I kind of started thinking about like you and I 0:01:31.160 --> 0:01:34.520 and dating, and you know, the question of when do 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:39.360 you reveal your whole true self and show your whole 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.560 true life to someone that you're dating. It should be, 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:47.280 in my opinion, if you're smart a slow burn. Oh interesting, 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:50.920 I didn't expect you to say that I'm a slow reveal. 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:54.160 Leave a little something to be desired, a little something 0:01:54.200 --> 0:02:00.880 to learn, just in that. I think relationship chips have stages. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:05.080 They moved to a certain point, like yes, I thought 0:02:06.440 --> 0:02:10.440 I love you early on, but we've created and gone 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.400 so much deeper now, so true that I want to 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:17.560 reveal more to you in more intimate ways, whether it's 0:02:17.600 --> 0:02:20.240 my kids, my mom, my dad, what I really think 0:02:20.280 --> 0:02:23.040 about my mom and my dad and my brother, you know. 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:25.680 But you know what I mean. It's like, I think 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.880 you scratch the surface early on, and it's like you 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.280 can have them into the house or whatever. But I 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:33.120 think then you go much deeper as you go, so 0:02:33.280 --> 0:02:35.959 I would say a slow burn. Are you saying not? Well, 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:38.400 I have this friend and I will say she's she's 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:40.720 been on the struggle bus in dating and I've tried 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.960 to I don't agree with some of her opinions, like 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:47.320 she said, well, I'm myself, my whole everything about myself 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.640 right from date one, and so then like if they 0:02:49.639 --> 0:02:51.160 don't like me, it's like take me or leave me. 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:52.919 And if they don't like me, then that's it and whatever. 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:57.679 And I think there's a balance because look, you don't 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.560 want to misrepresent who you are and you don't want 0:02:59.600 --> 0:03:01.720 to be that, you know, like the movie Runaway Bride, 0:03:01.720 --> 0:03:05.720 where she's like changing Julie Roberts's character infamously changed how 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:07.480 she likes her eggs for each guy. You don't want 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:10.160 to change who you are for someone, and you don't 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.720 want to misrepresent who you are. But at the same time, 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:16.600 I think in different areas of our lives, like you 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:20.040 don't walk into a business meeting and act exactly like 0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.640 you're full self, or you have different versions of yourself, 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:25.600 like I have who I am in a first business 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:27.639 meeting with somebody, and then I have who I am 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.880 when I'm like with my siblings or with you, and 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.080 so we have these different versions of ourselves. And I 0:03:32.120 --> 0:03:36.040 think when you're first dating somebody, be yourself, but be 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:40.720 a certain version of yourself. Hopefully you could come across 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:45.600 crazy the best version of yourself for that particular moment. 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:48.720 Like I wasn't doing my Voldemort impression for you on 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.960 the first Trust me, I did not know that's what 0:03:51.000 --> 0:03:55.080 I was buying into. I wasn't talking. It's which Harry 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:57.560 Potter book isn't. Yeah, she didn't give me the Harry 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.560 Potter test of what house you're in? All that has 0:04:00.680 --> 0:04:02.720 to come. Can we do the Harry Potter test for 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:06.040 people right now? Not yet? Okay, the one question test 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.080 Instagram if you want to do the test, because how 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:10.680 are people going to answer that you would have to 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:13.600 go through It would be very tough and convoluted, which 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:18.279 I also feel like if you reveal everything about yourself, 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:20.440 it's like drinking out of a fire hydrant early on. 0:04:20.880 --> 0:04:23.520 That's a lot for somebody to take in. Let them 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:25.360 drink out of the water fountain. Well, that's the thing. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.360 It's going to be interesting to see on Farmer Wants 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:30.400 a Wife like I would be. You know, obviously this 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.360 is a TV show, it's an experiment, and so we're 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.159 going to throw these people in right away. And the 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:38.040 question is, can you take the full reality of someone's life, 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:40.239 everything about who they are, the way they live, everything, 0:04:40.320 --> 0:04:43.159 right from day one. Like with you and I, you 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.760 actually introduced me to the kids fairly early on, but 0:04:46.839 --> 0:04:49.960 you also said, look, a, my kids are older, they're teenagers. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:51.680 They're not you know, you don't have to worry about 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:54.000 like a younger child forming an emotional attachment to you 0:04:54.080 --> 0:04:56.400 right away. Because I was a little nervous. And then 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:58.800 you said, I have my kids fifty percent of the time, 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:00.160 So if we're going to be dating each other, you're 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:03.600 going to see him quite a lot. I am trying 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.880 to think of how quickly I like threw you in. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.359 It really was pretty quick. But again I think I 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.919 just there's also something exciting about maintaining a little mystery too, 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:17.440 and unfolding things. Speaking of mystery, oh yes, and unfolding. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:19.640 And we'll get back to Farmer One's why because we're 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.080 going to have Jennifer Neddles and country Icon. I think 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:23.600 you have a little bit of a celeb crush. I 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.640 do have a celeb crush on Jennifer Nettles. She's incredibly talented. Yeah, 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.720 it's like I've been a big, yeah, huge fan Farmer Hunter. 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:32.440 We'll see if I'm a fan. I got to talk 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.960 to him, see what this farmer is all about. But 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.520 the mystery that is Aaron Rodgers. Again, this is when 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:43.200 our two worlds kind of collide. Green May Packer quarterback 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.240 Aaron Rodgers. You're transitioning into the most dramatic headlines of 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:48.599 the week. Yeah, this has been a dramatic headline that 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.880 you and I talked a lot about. He is an 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.640 eccentric guy, to say the least, and he's been known 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:58.160 for he goes on these meditative trips, these retreats. He 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:04.080 marches to the beat of a different drummer, and he 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:10.640 recently just went to a quiet, dark retreat. Quiet is 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.880 an understatement. Okay, I'm going to take this over because 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.240 for once I can speak on a sports story. As 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:18.320 you said, usually our world's don't intersect, but when sports 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:20.960 comes into the entertainment websites, when I see it on 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:23.880 those that I know. Now, Aaron Rodgers has dated a 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:25.599 lot of famous people, so I do know who he has, 0:06:25.640 --> 0:06:30.480 stated Olivia mun and stand to Patrick yes. So Aaron Rodgers, 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.160 in trying to figure out his next step in his 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:35.280 football career, has revealed that he went to not just 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:42.680 a quiet a four day silent retreat in almost total darkness, 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.599 in a space an unknown location that was at least 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:51.640 partially underground, and the only thing he had was a bed, 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:56.040 a matt on which to meditate. And that's it. Yea, 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:58.640 I saw this. It's at Skycave is the name of it. 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:02.200 It's a three hundred square foot it partially underground hobbit 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.440 like dwelling. I saw. You can see the door, so 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:06.279 it really is like the Hobbit. Okay, so he's paying 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.719 to go be in. He's paying essentially to be in 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.280 solitary confinement, which is in is in some way forms 0:07:12.280 --> 0:07:15.000 of torture and imprisonment. But yes, I think we shut 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.480 down Guantanamo Bay because of this. No, but it's you 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:21.120 and I have a little different opinion on this. We do, 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.200 I think. Okay. I came to Chris and I said, 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:27.000 this is you would be wild to me. I would 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.200 never do this. First of all, I am way too 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:30.920 afraid of the dark. I mean every night when we 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:33.080 go to sleep, I'm waking up a couple times in 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.200 the night, and I don't know if anybody out there 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.760 has contacts or glasses. My contacts prescription is eight point five. 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.840 Think of readers like readers, glasses are like one point five, 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:45.760 like the bottom of a coke bottle. That's what you 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:49.000 wear when you're six. Yes, yes, she's an eight point five. 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:51.400 So I wake up in the middle of the night, 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:53.280 I see a shadow. I'm like, someone's in the room. 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.160 I'm screaming. I'm waking you up. The idea of being 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:01.000 in four full, twenty four hour periods of total darkness 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.520 is terrifying. How long what's the over under on Lauren 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:07.760 Zima in this room? How long? What do you mean 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:12.160 in the hours? Could you make it a day? If 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:13.880 I was able to just pull the plug, I would 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:18.640 giet it maybe an hour. I don't know. I'd lose 0:08:18.640 --> 0:08:21.920 all sense of time. I also can't handle the idea 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.920 of not talking to anybody for four days. Like the 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.600 guy who runs the retreat will stop by and just 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:31.000 check on you. He checks on the guests. By the way, 0:08:31.120 --> 0:08:33.880 the door is not locked. You are in control. There 0:08:33.960 --> 0:08:36.000 is a light switch. The room is fully powered. You 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:38.200 can flip on the lights. You can walk outside, you 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:41.040 can walk in the woods. But the idea is to 0:08:42.200 --> 0:08:46.120 put yourself in the uncomfortable and live in the uncomfortable. 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.480 And what Aaron was saying, and what others that do 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:52.360 this say is it is working on those six inches 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:56.640 between the ears. It's about putting yourself in the uncomfortable 0:08:56.679 --> 0:08:59.839 and not reaching for your phone, reaching for food, reaching 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:03.840 for exercise, reaching for whatever that breaks that uncomfortability. You 0:09:03.880 --> 0:09:07.920 got to live in it and sit in it. Sometimes 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.520 I get scared about if I do experiences like this, 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.560 like what might break in my brain or something. That's 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:15.280 what scares me a little bit. But then I also 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:16.920 see what you're saying. Okay, I didn't know he could 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:18.720 take a walk in the woods. That makes if I 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:20.800 could get outside, although then I'd be afraid somebody to 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:23.079 be in the woods. Anyway, This is also like we 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.080 could really dig into how this is Like a huge 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:26.880 part of this is how women are raised with so 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:28.959 much more fear and instilled with fear and to be 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.320 afraid than men are. Yeah, I mean, pretty valid point. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:34.880 The only other person I saw that did this was 0:09:35.240 --> 0:09:39.520 this guy that crossed Antarctica and has summited Everest twice. 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:42.800 He goes there religiously and as seven day stints in 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.160 this room. Okay, so would you do this? I think 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.160 it would be interesting. And so you know a Aaron's look, 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.040 he's thirty nine years old, he's done. He went down 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:54.800 to Peru and did what hyahuasca? The psychedelic. Yeah, the psychedelic. 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.120 So he's been known to do these things, and this 0:09:57.200 --> 0:09:59.200 is just another step as he's trying to figure out, 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.200 by the way, if he's coming back to Green Bay, 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.640 and if he does, he's due fifty nine point four 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.600 million dollars. I don't have to sit one day in 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.320 the dark to just come back and pick up sixty mils. 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.160 But this is what Aaron has done to contemplate his 0:10:13.240 --> 0:10:16.080 future and put himself in that uncomfortable position. He is 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.760 an interesting guy. So would you do this? I have 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:27.000 been to a silent monastery, you have. Okay, look at this. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:31.080 The mystery unfolds. I did not know. I was on 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:35.600 the board of my church. This was back in California. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:38.199 And you go up to this where the monks are 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:41.520 in Santa Barbara, and you live in silence among the 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:46.280 monks for one to three days. And so there are 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.320 times that you speak when you're in prayer or whatever. 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.880 But for the most part, the entire places in silence 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.720 you have. You have no phone, no reception, We're not 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.600 in the dark, and there are other humans around and 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:01.960 you're eating, but that's it. So I think it's pretty liberating. 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:03.960 It's pretty interesting. What did you take away from that? 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:05.720 You just spent a lot of time and thought, But 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:07.800 what did you takeaway? What did you learn about yourself 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:09.320 or what did you what was your big takeaway that 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.440 you would remember. I've always been a believer that you 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:17.079 need to be comfortable with yourself, by yourself, within yourself. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.520 I've always believed that It's what honestly got me through 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.080 the Bachelor and Batch rec because I traveled so much 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:24.320 of the time by myself. I would often not go 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.160 with the cast, so I would be by myself traveling 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:30.920 for days, wouldn't speak to anybody, and became very comfortable, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.760 almost too comfortable with that. I think it's important to 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:37.320 have that spirituality, to be able to go within yourself 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:42.320 and be silent. It's a powerful thing. Well, this does 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:44.160 I did do And first of all, I just I 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:46.160 can't believe I never knew this. We've we've got to 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:48.400 go on a long date and keep learning about each other. No, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.080 I did do the hiking retreat that I did in 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:56.440 the fall, and I told you one of my takeaways 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.720 from that. Now it was on a much smaller scale. 0:11:59.200 --> 0:12:01.319 We did these hikes every day, these twelve mile hikes, 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.680 and if anybody follows me on Instagram, I was doing 0:12:03.720 --> 0:12:05.520 ten k a day, ten thousand steps a day to 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:07.560 prepare for that. What I was preparing for was twelve 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:11.800 miles a day of hiking. And on the last day, 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:15.520 they purposely spaced us out on the hike so that 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.120 we had to hike alone, that you couldn't walk and 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.880 talk with somebody else, And so I hiked by myself 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:24.199 for a couple hours. And actually that was a big 0:12:24.280 --> 0:12:27.440 learning moment for me, because something I do think I 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.400 have to work on is like being okay in the silence, 0:12:30.480 --> 0:12:32.679 being okay with myself. I always think my mind goes 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.120 crazy and I need to talk to people. And I 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.600 did walk away from that thinking, wow, I enjoyed being 0:12:38.640 --> 0:12:41.559 by myself and I like experiences that push you to change. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:45.560 So I'm totally in for this. I have to say. 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.960 What scared me about the Errand thing was the darkness. 0:12:48.000 --> 0:12:50.160 I couldn't be in the darkness for four days. That's 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:52.800 what's interesting is and again there are breaks from it, 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:57.120 but to be enveloped in that darkness and there is 0:12:57.160 --> 0:13:00.760 no reception, that's a lot. Although well, you made a 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:02.280 good point, and I will say we were talking about 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.200 this a little bit before the pod. You said, we 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.280 do have to put in our minds the perspective that 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:09.960 Aaron Rodgers, the level of fame he has, the level 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:12.760 of money, he's like got it, Like you said, figure 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.440 out what he wants. He might need some silence. There's 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.520 a lot of step out a lambeau Field where there 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.480 are hundreds of thousands of people screaming and yelling, you know, 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.760 and to break away from that and just be quiet. 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.840 I respect that. He's a very interesting guy. I've met 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:30.360 Aaron on a number of occasions. The first time I 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.440 met him, this is true story, really bizarre. I was 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:36.320 at Bellair Country Club in LA playing golf with a 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:37.880 friend of mine and he says, hey, do you mind 0:13:37.920 --> 0:13:40.720 if this other guy joins us. It was Aaron Rodgers. 0:13:41.120 --> 0:13:43.520 This is pre Jojo and Jordan being on the show. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.400 He was dating Olivium on He says, hey, I had 0:13:46.440 --> 0:13:49.559 a bizarre connection to oliviam On through Oklahoma, and she said, Yo, 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:52.040 she speaks highly of you. We love the show, we 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:55.360 watch it. He was a pretty religious watcher of The Bachelor. 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.880 He and oliviam On and we talked a little bit 0:13:57.920 --> 0:13:59.600 about it and all that had had a good time. 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.600 Flash forward a year later Jojo season of The Bachelorette. 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:06.400 Jordan Rodgers his brother. It kind of comes to light 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.760 that he is estranged from his family. He doesn't speak 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.480 to Jordan or his family, and we kind of blew 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.400 up Aaron's life a little bit in that regard. Then 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:17.760 I see him at another Gulf event at and T 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:21.000 Pebble Beach. We're up at Pebble and I specifically sought 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:23.480 him out when we were private and there were no 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.040 cameras around. I didn't know if he was going to 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.360 choke me out, punch me whatever. I was like, hey, 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.080 are we okay because I kind of blew your life up? 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.920 And he says, none, no, man, We're all good. Don't 0:14:33.920 --> 0:14:35.840 worry about it, and he was actually very generous and 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:40.880 kind about it. I see these two sides of him, 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.000 and I find it very interesting in your take on this. 0:14:44.960 --> 0:14:49.240 I love Jordan Rodgers. I like Aaron Rodgers. They're both 0:14:49.320 --> 0:14:52.080 good guys. Yeah, you know, Aaron's a little eccentric and 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:55.480 little you know, kookie, but who cares. He's not hurting anybody. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:59.200 So I find it interesting that if I didn't know 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.680 them as brother and I was at a bar with 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.720 Jordan Rodgers and Aaron walked in, I would get up, 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.760 give Aaron a high five, give him a hug, and say, hey, man, 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:10.880 come meet this guy. Jordan. He's a quo. He played 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:13.560 he played football as well, and you should talk. Yeah, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.120 y'all should talk. You're really going to connect. If you 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:19.760 took away what they are angry, whatever happened, they would 0:15:19.800 --> 0:15:22.240 actually probably be friends if they ran into each other. 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.760 I just I thought of that as very odd. Yeah, well, 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:28.160 I mean we have to remember we don't know what 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.360 we don't know. There's probably there's history, so many layers 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.200 to that and things that have happened that we have 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.440 no idea about, even though we know and love Jojo 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:43.360 and Jordan. Yeah, gosh, it's so hard because family estrangements 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:45.520 are something that I don't think we talk about that 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.480 much in our culture. It has this kind of faux 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.960 paw to it and get So many people I know, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.720 including myself, have like family members that they don't talk 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.280 to or haven't seen or are estranged from. And the 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.680 thing that's tough about family is, on the one hand, 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:01.160 you think to yourself, well, gosh, it's family, you know, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:02.720 can't you just work it out. Can't we put it 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.080 aside whatever it was and figure it out. And then 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:09.160 on the other hand, our family, these are not people 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.640 who we choose, you know, your friends or people you choose, 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:15.520 your family you're born into. And just because someone's your 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:19.320 family member doesn't mean you're going to get along with them. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.560 So I see both sides of it. I also wonder 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:26.440 sometimes maybe and hopefully you know, there's a time heals 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:29.960 all wounds. Factor. Our familial relationships are so long in 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:32.080 our lives, and I don't think any family member can 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.600 go through years and years without having a fight or 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.400 an issue, although you and I talk about that a lot. 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:40.480 I fight with my family so much more than Chris doesn't. 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:48.480 But yeah, it's it's interesting. I wonder, I wonder if 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:52.240 anything will ever change there, because everybody in that situation 0:16:52.320 --> 0:16:57.000 seems great. Um, although you know, we certainly don't know, right, Yeah, 0:16:57.000 --> 0:16:59.160 we don't know the real score. Yeah, yeah, and that's 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.280 not for us to know unless they want to come 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:02.720 on the show. And I'll have them both on and 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:17.919 let's patch this. Let's bring this family back together. Another 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:21.679 major headline that hit this week that hit close to 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:26.520 home literally in figurative. Where did it hit? Hit? Honestly 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:29.439 a little bit below the belt. This headline hits a 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:33.480 little bit below the belt. My old friend Dean, Dean 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:37.720 Anglert from Bachelor, Bachelor, Paradise fame. I think Dean's most 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.960 known for Bachelor and Paradise. Yes, don't you remember Dean 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:43.000 was like, I mean he and Kaylin are together now. 0:17:43.040 --> 0:17:46.040 But yeah, wasn't Dean the original? He was like the 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.399 start of all that f boy stuff. Yeah, but his 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:51.720 hometown really made news. That's on the show too during 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:56.400 the Bachelorette he was. But regardless, Dean now engaged to Klin. 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:59.720 This we're going from like one eccentric story in one 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.520 of centric guy to the next because Aaron Rodgers and 0:18:02.600 --> 0:18:06.640 Dean are a little bit similar in that way, the quirkiness, 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:09.359 Like right now we would be talking to Dean about 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.760 this story we're about to talk about, except he's an Antarctica. Oh, yes, 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:14.560 you couldn't get a hold of him because he's an Antarctica. 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:16.360 You actually tried to get in touch with him, right, 0:18:16.440 --> 0:18:18.719 He's always in a van somewhere. He's in a van 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:23.280 somewhere way south of the border anyway. So the story 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:26.679 is this, Dean went on a podcast and was saying 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:31.040 how he feels it shouldn't be just incumbent upon the 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.760 woman for now. I think it started with Kaylin, just 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.240 to be clear. Kaylin went on their podcast and said 0:18:37.640 --> 0:18:40.320 that Dean has told her he doesn't think the birth 0:18:40.359 --> 0:18:42.960 control should all fall on the woman, and so he 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:48.080 thinks maybe he should get of a sectomy now because 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.320 they're not ready to have kids yet, and then it 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.480 would he would just undo it and get a reversal 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:57.320 when it's time to have kids. Now, I think he's 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.439 taken this a little further now and actually spoken to 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:05.520 a doctor about it. But Dean, that is not the 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:10.480 birth control you're looking for. There are others at the pharmacy. 0:19:11.040 --> 0:19:15.000 There's a whole aisle where you can put things on 0:19:15.320 --> 0:19:18.040 where things Okay, wait, I have to call you out 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:22.359 on this right now. I think that what Dean's saying 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:27.280 is very right, It is all in the woman, I 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.840 will say, and I haven't. If Dean's had a conversation 0:19:30.880 --> 0:19:32.639 with the doctor, I haven't listened to that. My first 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:36.000 reaction was, Okay, wait, I gotta go research this because 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.400 I mean, if a sectum, he's a pretty serious surgery, right, 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.879 and how and most importantly, how successful are the reversals, 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:46.040 because you don't want to go have a surgical procedure 0:19:46.280 --> 0:19:48.919 where you might then never be able to have kids. 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:52.840 But I will say that, Okay, for example, I know 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:55.960 a lot of women who have IDs getting an IUD, 0:19:56.200 --> 0:19:58.600 and I don't have one. But getting an IUD, from 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:02.399 what I've heard from all my good friends, is so painful. 0:20:03.000 --> 0:20:05.159 It is. I mean, I have had women say that 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:07.680 they think you should go on they wish they'd gotten 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:10.760 to go under for it because it's super painful. And 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.440 so that's not nothing. And women taking birth control pills 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.280 every day for months or years of their lives, that 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:21.560 comes with major risks. I mean, it's hard. There's birth control, 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:25.399 while so important, every option comes with the downside. Dean's 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.240 not wrong, but he's also not right. Okay, why don't 0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.639 you just tell everybody just be real? Chris Harrison about 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:34.800 why you said it hits below the best. This is 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:39.440 an operation I'm I'm very familiar with. I went through 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:44.000 this operation post my two kids, so I've been there 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:49.000 and done that. And the operation itself not a big deal. Really, 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.159 I probably shouldn't say that that way, but it's not. 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.040 It's really not a big deal. How do you mean 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:59.560 it just it's not it's not painful, it's not that uncomfortable. 0:20:59.600 --> 0:21:01.679 It's just you get it done. It's i mean, probably 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.479 took thirty forty five minutes. They put a little booboo 0:21:04.520 --> 0:21:06.280 strip on you and you go. You know, they pull 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.840