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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance. Today,

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Speaker 1: I'm joined with a relatively new buddy. A guy that

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Speaker 1: we meet because of social media, you know, reaches out.

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Speaker 1: We strike up a friendship and a conversation and it

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Speaker 1: leads to that Ashley Stucklass from High BC up in

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Speaker 1: British Columbia reached out. We started working together and then

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Speaker 1: I started to watch more of his videos, more of

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Speaker 1: what he's putting together, and just a guy that I

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Speaker 2: How's it going, Ashley?

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Speaker 3: It's going great, Jason. I thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: having me on. This is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm gonna get this all wrong. Whatever sheep

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Speaker 1: show you're at, you're at the BC sheep show, and

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the acronym wrong, but thank you for

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Speaker 1: taking your time out.

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Speaker 2: And what is the sheep show you're at? Exactly? I'll

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Speaker 2: let you expel.

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Speaker 3: Sure. It's a Wild Chief Society of British Columbia. This

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Speaker 3: is their salute to conservation and their mountain hunting expo

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Speaker 3: so it kind of has two names to it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so thank you again for taking the time out

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Speaker 1: of that. And that's we started talking here about a

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Speaker 1: month ago, and I had watched your hunt last year,

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Speaker 1: which was heartbreaking, right you, Yeah, you find the ram,

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Speaker 1: you know everything, and then it's Chip, right, was you

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Speaker 1: kind of NASA name?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we nicknamed him in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Chip, So we watched that you had some cool coloration

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Speaker 1: on his nose, so it was obvious.

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Speaker 2: You know, we'll get.

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Speaker 1: Into that part later, but kind of a heartbreaking story

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Speaker 1: for people that, you know, for us, for us down

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Speaker 1: in the lower forty eight, like coming up stone sheep hunting,

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Speaker 1: it's like a dream hunt, right, one that's almost like

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Speaker 1: financially unobtainable at times, but you'll watch you guys get

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Speaker 1: to go do it in your backyard as a resident,

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Speaker 1: and it was like heartbreaking, right to miss that shot,

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Speaker 1: just a bummer. But there there's always little nuggets of

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Speaker 1: like the story that was created this year couldn't have

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be half the story that it ends up

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Speaker 3: being without that, which is officially and deeply my my

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Speaker 2: I don't want to.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to necessarily necessarily like spoil the story.

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Speaker 1: But let's just say you and the buddy go back

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Speaker 1: into that country and relocate Chip and have a better outcome.

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Speaker 1: So it's an awesome two part series. I highly recommend

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Speaker 1: you guys go watch the first part before you jump

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Speaker 1: in to the success. And it's crazy how you would

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Speaker 1: have never probably convinced Ashley at that time that like

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Speaker 1: this is all for a good reason, like it's gonna

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Speaker 1: until it happened.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure. Even when it actually happened, I

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Speaker 3: was like, like you, you can't imagine this this to

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Speaker 3: some amazing luck there from the sheep gods for sure.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

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Speaker 1: And like I said, I was, I'm you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: drawing to guys like you, actually guys that do it.

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Speaker 2: Like might you know self?

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Speaker 1: Where you know I you tune into the sheep hunt,

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Speaker 1: you guys are just bushwhacking through miles and miles of

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Speaker 1: even for guys that have the opportunity, Like it doesn't

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Speaker 1: putting in in the grind, and you're doing it the

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Speaker 1: hard way, the right way. And so I respected the

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Speaker 1: heck out of that, and really what kind of drew

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Speaker 1: me to your channel? And then you know, started watching

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Speaker 1: your meal deer hunts and your other adventures there in

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Speaker 1: BC and beyond. It's it's awesome and so just stoked

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Sure, So we're gonna start out like most episodes. I

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Speaker 1: got a couple of my own, just kind of softball

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Speaker 1: my questions in addition to the conversation we're gonna have. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, not being from BC, not knowing your guys'

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Speaker 1: exact system, you know, your public land, how do you

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Speaker 1: pick areas that you're gonna hunt? Like do you look

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Speaker 1: at the do you do e scouting? Is there just

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Speaker 1: like well known areas? Like is it similar to down

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Speaker 1: you know, sheep in them, whatever it may be, Like,

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Speaker 1: how do you plan hunts up there in BC?

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Speaker 2: And what's open to you?

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Speaker 3: So I for planning the hunts and eat scouting for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean we're on on X throughout the season and

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Speaker 3: you know, we're doing some scouting hikes and then sort

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Speaker 3: types that are in the areas and then using on

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Speaker 3: the good areas of good mual de deer areas, mountain hunting,

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Speaker 3: sheep and goat. If you don't do your research, you know,

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Speaker 3: and use those tools. So we do very detailed planned

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wasn't gonna go down this rabbit hole.

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Speaker 1: And maybe you do or don't know, like my understanding

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Speaker 1: being from down here looking at you know, stone cheap prices.

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Speaker 3: For you or was it a little a little bit

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Speaker 3: in a few areas. For sure, there were some changes,

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Speaker 3: and there's likely to be more changes coming. But typically

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Speaker 3: you know, sixty bucks. The tag's more expensive now, but

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Speaker 1: That's a little sixty bucks is a little bit more

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Speaker 1: Or yeah, for sure makes me want to see if

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Speaker 1: So what's the what's the general health of the critters

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Speaker 3: Like I think we are experiencing some of this stuff.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, do you think you mentioned that they're a

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Speaker 1: You know our hunters is are the fishing you know,

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Speaker 1: you guys' fish and wildlife, like our predators well managed

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Speaker 1: we could run dogs, you know, we could do all this.

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Speaker 1: You could bait bears, you know, we're now it's like

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Speaker 1: the cougar. You know, we all know for you, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: which go hand in hand. Do you guys feel you know,

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Speaker 1: some of these declines maybe predators. Is it hunting pressure,

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Speaker 1: know you mentioned weather.

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Speaker 3: the bigger picture, but the predator management piece can't be overlooked.

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Speaker 3: I think we're really lucky we have. We can't bait

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Speaker 3: hunt wolves and coyotes. I was out a couple of

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, let's put this magic together and

433
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 3: I just I just remember I distinctly remember sitting looking

434
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,719
Speaker 3: at my of this shaky dad cab style footage like

435
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 3: a you know, like I'm running around and nothing makes

436
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,399
Speaker 3: sense that there's there is no story to it. It's

437
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: it's just sort of this is an activity we're doing.

438
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 3: And and then I was frustrated but hooked instantly. I'm like, oh, okay,

439
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 3: so I got to get better. So then I just

440
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: you know, grind on on researching how to, how to shoot,

441
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 3: how to you know, figure it out. And you know,

442
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: then through the twenty thirty dollars in gear upgrades and

443
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 3: and becoming just just like hunting, you become this gear

444
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: nut you kind of like I need this, and it's

445
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: got to be that. Once you got something set, it's

446
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: like lock that in because that's that's a move. That's

447
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: a move that I need. It's there, Okay, rely on it, Okay,

448
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 3: add something else into the mix, and the same thing.

449
00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: So this was always both happening now at the same time, Like, Okay,

450
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 3: I found out a way to make hunting way more expensive,

451
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:09,679
Speaker 3: so this is this is awesome. So and but but

452
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:15,639
Speaker 3: I just basically kept driving for it, keep driving for it.

453
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 3: I'm still driving for it, like I feel right now,

454
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: if I'm being honest in my journey, I feel like

455
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 3: halfway there. I feel halfway to what I'm still visioning.

456
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,439
Speaker 3: But I can see glints of it, you know, I

457
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 3: can see glints. I can see a sequence right now

458
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 3: that I can edit and put together of shots that

459
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 3: I took myself, and I'm like, okay, that's that's fairly tight.

460
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: And then okay, the story wobbles here, and then you

461
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 3: just the story piece has been it's complicated. Yeah, you

462
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 3: don't realize how much work goes into that. So yeah, yeah.

463
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: And the nice thing is, you know, I you know,

464
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 1: kind of watching it from the beginning. Now you see

465
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 1: you with the big I think it's the big white

466
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: bodied lenses. You know, you got the big expensive lenses

467
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, the dedication for somebody to

468
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: pack that long lens around, and.

469
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know, improving that.

470
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: But then I think the magic and and you may

471
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: agree that the equipment's nice and the fancy equipment, but

472
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,920
Speaker 1: it comes back to that storytelling. And the nice thing

473
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: is is you get going, like it just becomes a

474
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 1: little more naturally, like, oh, that's the storyline, like I

475
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: already know, you know, and and you just you know,

476
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: and it's not the storyline people are gonna attach to,

477
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: and uh, that's what I love about it, is like

478
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 1: telling those stories in the way that you know, you

479
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: want to, you know, and and it's fun especially when.

480
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 2: You then they're not all gonna land.

481
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: It seems like sometimes you produce some duds and then

482
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, the next one everybody loved and

483
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: that you know, and so it's just yeah, producing something

484
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: that you want to and then hoping that the people

485
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: that watch, you know, like it, and uh, it's a

486
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun. So let's let's roll into

487
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 1: your your three most memorable hunts there in BC. I know,

488
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 1: the the sheep Hunts got to be one of them,

489
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: and then kind of throw your other two and we

490
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: didn't touch too much on it. If you want to

491
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: go a little bit deeper into the you know, the

492
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: story on Chip and then ultimately what you and your

493
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 1: buddy were both to do this past year, like give

494
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,199
Speaker 1: us that story and then throwing a couple of your

495
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: other favorites.

496
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I you know, when we think about the

497
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: sheep hunt, like, I've never had an experience that was

498
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 3: that that sort of high that elevated, So you know,

499
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 3: it's like a huge gift to get that opportunity. So

500
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 3: you know, we like you say, packing in that lens,

501
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 3: that's that's part of the part of the sacrifice that takes. Yes,

502
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 3: could I use my olen and get some good shots? Absolutely?

503
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 3: What can I can I get? You know, ten bit

504
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: color in four k No, I cannot. And so you know,

505
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 3: put taking that sixteen pounds of camera gear on a

506
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 3: eighty eighty kilometers the first year and about a you know,

507
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 3: one hundred the next year. I get great satisfaction in

508
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 3: that pain to do it, because not a lot of

509
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 3: people want to do that. You know, we're cheap one

510
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 3: oh one. How light can you make your kit?

511
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: Yeah?

512
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: And make it still comfortable? That's like basic science of

513
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 3: sheep hunting is, hey, how can I get to fifty

514
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: five pounds with ten days of food? How do I

515
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: get to that number? And for me, it's like, okay,

516
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 3: now I've got to that number. Now let's just add

517
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 3: sixteen pounds on it or fourteen depending on the kid

518
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: I bring and sort of, but it matters enough to

519
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 3: do that, and I think, you know, that's making my

520
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: hunts more memorable, that whole process in itself, and of

521
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: course having video of varying quality levels of these hunts

522
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 3: really deepens the experience because we think we remember everything

523
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 3: and then you watch something from a couple of years ago.

524
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 3: But you know, really getting back in there with Jesse

525
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: the same hunter. You know, we we did not think

526
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: we were going to cross up. This is a very

527
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 3: expensive area we're hunting. We didn't think we cross up

528
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: Chip again. And you know, if you I've re edited it.

529
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm actually showing it at the Sheep Show here into

530
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: one compact like twenty minute episode. It's probably my best

531
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: editing to date on that story. So if people do

532
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,680
Speaker 3: want to see it, it will be there. I think

533
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 3: it's worth the watch. It's very relatable if you're in

534
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: the mountains. I really like to you know, dive into

535
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: more than more than just the grip and grin that's

536
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 3: fortunately a part of it in the highs. But but yeah,

537
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 3: there's it's that that sick grind that you got to

538
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: do and whether you like it or not, you just

539
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 3: love it, you know, whether it hurts or not. Yeah.

540
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so by time this airs, that video will

541
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: be live on your YouTube channel.

542
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: Correct, it will, Yeah, after I show after I show

543
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 3: it tomorrow at one o'clock at the Sheep Show. That'll

544
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 3: be the first screening of it. It will go live

545
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: by Sunday on the YouTube channel. And I think it's

546
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: a nice way if if you don't want to watch

547
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: it through the two part I think the two parts

548
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: valuable because it goes deeper. Obviously, it's twice the twice

549
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 3: the length kind of thing, but this is just a

550
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: little more concise, maybe a geared a little more towards

551
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 3: watchability and engagement kind of thing.

552
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: And I'm curious you said, you know, it was in

553
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: an expansive area. How far was he from the spot

554
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: where you miss him the first year? Was it the

555
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: same mountain or was.

556
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 3: He apart different mountain, same range? And it was approximately

557
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: you know, five miles or so. Jeez, talking miles because

558
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: a lot of people, but yeah, yeah, five miles ten

559
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: kilometers ish kind of thing. I never quite measured it off,

560
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: but approximately in approximate.

561
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: That's crazy, you know, because like and I don't know

562
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: if your milder are more finicky, like a lot of

563
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: our meal deer go back to the exact same summer range,

564
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 1: you know, they migrate out, go back, So it's you know,

565
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 1: I would just assume a sheep's gonna kind of stay

566
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: on the same mountain, but that that seems to be

567
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty good distance, so it's even more rare.

568
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: You know, it may be normal, but it seems crazy

569
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,719
Speaker 1: that you know, you'd pick him up that far apart.

570
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they they just run the range differently right than

571
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: than meal there because my meal their experience with when

572
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 3: we talk about, you know, three favorite hunts, I think

573
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 3: mule dere is ultimately my favorite animal to pursue. But yeah,

574
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 3: they act very differently than sheep. Sheep are you know,

575
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 3: they'll they'll have you know, maybe it's grizzly bears pushing

576
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: them around from time to time. Maybe it is other hunters.

577
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 3: A guide comes through with his horses, you know, they'll

578
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 3: they'll migrate. Whereas you know meal deer, you can push

579
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: him out for a couple of days usually, but if

580
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: you really stick it out, usually he's gonna he's gonna

581
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: sneak back in there and want to be in whether

582
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 3: that's his summer range or or where he likes the winter.

583
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 3: You know, when they're running running, they'll cruise a lot more,

584
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: so you'll get a lot more turnover through the basins.

585
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: That you work, but uh yeah, they're they're a little.

586
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: Bit different, gotcha, gotcha? And then you you kind of

587
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: that was a good segue.

588
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: So I'm sure a meal deer hunt's got to be,

589
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, on on one of your top three and

590
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: and watching your videos, it seems like you guys got

591
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 1: like kind of some cliffy plateau country that drops off

592
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: into these cliffs and it looks like just a really

593
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: cool way to get above those deer and kind.

594
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: Of kind of glass down.

595
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: Tell me a little more about your meal deer hunting,

596
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: and it seems like you know a lot of fun

597
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: hunting them that way.

598
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 3: It's super fun hunting them that way. I mean, you know,

599
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: it creates challenges as well for recovery. Sometimes you've got

600
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: to do very very long hikes to to you know,

601
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: your you shoot him four hundred yards away, then you

602
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: got to hike ten kilometers, not just a kilometer and

603
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 3: a half like your typical working your way in cutting

604
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 3: the best little ridge lines to get you to them.

605
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 3: This is a bigger swing. But I'm just in love

606
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: with that that, you know, end of October right through

607
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: November being in that country, that transition between the fur

608
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 3: timber that it's fairly dry in there. It's bordering on

609
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 3: sort of desert type of terrain. And it transitions from

610
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 3: these stunted fur forests that are quite open, nice walking

611
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: underneath into these cliff systems down into the river drainages

612
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 3: which are all rolling sage, and you know, just smelling

613
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: the sage and just being right there is you know,

614
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: you gotta do it. Anybody who's getting into the like,

615
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: I don't know how you don't get hooked because it's

616
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: it's very enjoyable.

617
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: No, that's awesome.

618
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: It seems like you're able to take some good bucks

619
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: in there. You's got a pretty healthy population and looks

620
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: like a ton of f What would be your third?

621
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: So you know you got a sheep? Is most memorial?

622
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: That that memorable?

623
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: You got that?

624
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: Mealy, what would be like a third? I know you're

625
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: trying to get after a big horn this year, but like,

626
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: you know, moose, what else?

627
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: What else is your It is moose?

628
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: That And there's a deep connection to moose hunting and

629
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 3: my relationship with my father, grandfather, uncles. You know, it's

630
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: a traditional on the east in Newfoundland has the highest

631
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 3: moose population per square kilometer square mile in the world,

632
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 3: So it's a big food source for a lot of

633
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 3: small communities out there. So even though I do my

634
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: moose hunting here in British Columbia, I feel heavily connected

635
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: to all of those childhood memories when I'm in the

636
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 3: bogs chasing moose, you know. So so I think, I

637
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: I that is near and dear to my heart.

638
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 1: Do you try to still get out every year in

639
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: moose hunt when you can? Or is it is it

640
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: like an every other year thing or how it's.

641
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 3: More of an every other year thing. Honestly, I think

642
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 3: I am gonna make a moose hunt happen this year.

643
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 3: But our moose hunt hunting in the province is ninety

644
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 3: percent draw so you do have to draw a tag.

645
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,720
Speaker 3: Some of the areas that that I like to hunt,

646
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: the drawds aren't that great. So there's a few little

647
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 3: pockets left in the province where there's where there's open

648
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: uh open moose hunting. But so you know, if if

649
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 3: you know, traveling to the Yukon three times a year

650
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 3: gets a little tough. So I usually try to get

651
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 3: too up north, not into the Yukon, but uh right

652
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 3: up on the border and uh it uh yeah, there's

653
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 3: only so much you can do. There's only so many days.

654
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 3: But that has to be my my third if I

655
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 3: put it there, like I'm obsessed with trying to I've

656
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: been bit with the elk bug too, just because I've

657
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 3: had them pound me in the chest bugling back. And

658
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 3: you know, we we didn't ol hunt growing up, and

659
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: I didn't do a ton of elk hunting just myself,

660
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: and and these last couple of years, I've been just

661
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 3: in this hot pursuit to try and try and make

662
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 3: it happen. I've had some really close calls, but yeah,

663
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: still still working on it.

664
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, elk stuff to beat, just from an interaction, Like

665
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, they give you more interaction than almost every

666
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: other critter we get to chase around. So yeah, similar

667
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: to to you, that's probably why they're my number one.

668
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 1: You know, you get an interact and get them all

669
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: fired up and pissed and yeah, super super fun way

670
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: to hunt.

671
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 2: I have a question for you back on the moose.

672
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: So you know the shiris down here, you know, we

673
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: got some shiriffs that extended there and then you guys

674
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: there's like the the Band of Canadians and it turns

675
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: into Yukon. You know, once you get to Yukon, but

676
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: do you find that the further north you go, you

677
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: you tend to get bigger, bigger, you know, bigger hornwise moose.

678
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 1: Is that is that typical through like BC or is

679
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: it HIT or Miss?

680
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: I think it's totally fair when you take it to

681
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: the extremes for sure. I mean we definitely have those

682
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 3: Alaska Yukon bloodlines all through a northern band like where

683
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 3: I was hunting this past fall, that was in like

684
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: Alaska Yukon moose territory. But as you go north, I think,

685
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot more opportunity for the populations,

686
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: just not that dense so of people, So moose grow bigger,

687
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: they have good food sources that they don't get kicked

688
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: off of as much. There's a lot less resource activities

689
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: up there, meaning the predators are more in a natural

690
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 3: balance with the moose. So there's a few things that

691
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 3: but I think there's some magic in the feed once

692
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: you once you get up into that, you know, those

693
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: red willow flats and that once you once you find that,

694
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: then you're into that transition zone where you you could

695
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: find yourself you know, fifty sixty inch powl for sure.

696
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: Nice nice, yeah, no, you know watching like I said,

697
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: going back to your hunts, you know, you do it

698
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: the hard way. Do you have any like advice for

699
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: you know, we give advice all the time, but like

700
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: advice for people whether you're in Canada or whether you're

701
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: in the USA, like just taking this on.

702
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: You know, it was daunting. Growing up.

703
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: I was more of a industrial timberlands hunter, right, So

704
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: we would drive our rig to a landing, you would

705
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: look at a new fresh clear cut and you would

706
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: hunt your deer and your elk out of that. And

707
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: then as I got into it, you start to realize like, oh,

708
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: I've got to park my truck and walk for seven

709
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: or eight miles, you know, and it was daunting. And

710
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, so I've I've went through this and I've

711
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: talked about my way, but like, do you have any

712
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: good advice for for people that may be wanting to

713
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: you know, explore or kind of you know, tease the

714
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: idea of this backcountry hunting like an approach, you know,

715
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: and we don't have to get gear specific by any means,

716
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: but like, no, you know, things you need to think about,

717
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: things that you need to have you know, good boots, backpack,

718
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: those sort of things, you know, at least like your

719
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: main three. You know, we always talk boots, backpack, shelter,

720
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: sleep system.

721
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: You know what, how how should.

722
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: Somebody approach wanting to get into more of this back

723
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: country hunting?

724
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's I've been actually doing some backcountry you're

725
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 3: backpacking one O one sort of PowerPoint presentations to sort

726
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 3: of help young hunters at some of our local gun

727
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: clubs and stuff. And you know, I really think you

728
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: want you want to bite slow, and you don't want

729
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 3: to start with the in the hard basket, don't you know?

730
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 3: If you think your first backcountry hunt's going to be

731
00:38:55,760 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 3: mid November, you know fifteen fifteen miles back, you're setting

732
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: yourself up for a challenge you're likely to be bested by.

733
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 3: I would say so, I think you know, good opportunities

734
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 3: to cut your teeth on backcountry hunting would be spring

735
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,760
Speaker 3: bear in May, get yourself out there. Yeah, the bugs

736
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: are bad. That's going to build some mental toughness. I

737
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: think you really want to look at before you even

738
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: get into the you know, those are the key gear

739
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 3: pieces that you're going to be thinking of, you know,

740
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: on top of that you'll want an inReach device. We

741
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 3: don't have a lot of cell coverage in our back country,

742
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 3: so you definitely want to be cognstead of that, and

743
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 3: you want to you want to train like you got

744
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 3: You gotta want it, like backcountry is sort of and

745
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: you don't have to be a freak, but you gotta

746
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: do something. You can't just come in there cold your

747
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 3: hip flexors alone, like even a forty pounds pack set

748
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 3: up on it for a three day weekend hunt. You'll

749
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 3: you're your hip flexers once you're three four miles into

750
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: that are going to be screaming at you. And with

751
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 3: a few rocking sessions and some you know, some light

752
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 3: gym work and stuff, especially at the beginning, until you

753
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,919
Speaker 3: train your body to get used to that. I think

754
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 3: is essential because if you enjoy the experience, set yourself

755
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 3: up to make it fairly easy. Earlier mule deer hunts

756
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: in the back country. Not necessarily easy, like you're going

757
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: to come out of there with it here, but easier

758
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,799
Speaker 3: as far as far as it goes. But I think

759
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 3: you should really try and get towards your line, like

760
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 3: push yourself, take on some elevation, you know, don't take

761
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: the easy way out and realize that it's not a race.

762
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,760
Speaker 3: You can just pick away. It's amazing how much ground

763
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: you cover. I'm sure you guys you know this when

764
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 3: you're working your ridges with your Google tubes after Elk

765
00:40:57,640 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 3: and then you know you spent the whole day. You

766
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: didn't cut back for a break midday or anything. You

767
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 3: just wanted to push to a new area. You look

768
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 3: at your day after that, it's fairly casual. Your body's

769
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 3: not tore up, and wow, I've covered fifteen ten miles.

770
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: You know that's great, and you know you're gonna sweat,

771
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 3: You're gonna be uncomfortable. You do, you do need to

772
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: have good boots, Like you can't fake that part. You're

773
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: not gonna make it with you know, going down to

774
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: Target and picking up a pair of plastic boots and

775
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: thinking that's going to do it. It's it's because you're

776
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 3: carrying the way to the backpack and you need to

777
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: be able to Yeah, you need boots that you can

778
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 3: cut in and work across slope.

779
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a great point you made on You know,

780
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: everybody wants to pick off the top hunt, you know,

781
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: or the most difficult hunt right off the bat and

782
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 1: it's like, no, I mean, there's nothing wrong. Like my

783
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: first backpack hunting for Meal dere here in Washington State

784
00:41:58,920 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: was three miles up.

785
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: Just got me a little bit further in. You got

786
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: to test your stuff.

787
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: You know, it was more of a mid October hunt,

788
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: so you know what worst case scenario. I I pack

789
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: up and I go back to my truck. You know,

790
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: nothing hurt. And then it's it's crazy. I fast forward,

791
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, after doing it as long as you have

792
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: or as long as I have, and you're like, now,

793
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: I don't really care if I get snowed on twenty

794
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: four inches, Like it's just part of the game, right.

795
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: You've built yourself to that point where you're like, good,

796
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,840
Speaker 1: now now that you're going to stick out like a

797
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: sore thumb, and I'm gonna be able to track them,

798
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: And you know, all these things are good versus.

799
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: Less people are out here. They've been pushed off, you

800
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: know that. But but I think, yeah, you just slowly

801
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 3: because that that three mile hike in that's that's pretty moderate,

802
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: is not gonna be enough to fully satisfy you. But

803
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 3: it's good to start with that and to have that

804
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: lack of full satisfaction. Well, that didn't feel fully backcountry. Okay, good.

805
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 3: Next time it's five miles and it's a little deeper

806
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: and you can work off that same trail. So then

807
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 3: it feels like you're building because you know, we we

808
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: don't see the entire area our first time into a

809
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: new area. We go and make some focus chunks of it.

810
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: We picked that apart. Okay, now we know how to

811
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: efficiently make it through that terrain, specifically to that spot. Okay,

812
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 3: so it's easy for us to plan our next pop

813
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: into the next drainage, and then you just have to

814
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 3: see the next one and the next one, and then yeah,

815
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: it's pretty soon.

816
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.

817
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm reflecting back now, like on that three mile hike in,

818
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: like it was real cold. The next day all my

819
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: water froze up right, I couldn't get the water. Well,

820
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, I'm three miles in. It's not

821
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 1: an emergency yet, but let's say not to over dramatize

822
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: that you're ten miles in and can't get to any water,

823
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 1: but your water's froze. So it's like, oh, I've learned

824
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: over time. I'm just gonna sleep with my water inside

825
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: to sleep, but you know, like I'm gonna boil some jet,

826
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: but you know I'm gonna boil water my jet boil,

827
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to keep that warm all day long

828
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: so it doesn't And it's just crazy, like, uh, you know,

829
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: hard times build tough you know you've always heard the

830
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,359
Speaker 1: saying hard times build tough men.

831
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: Well, it's like backpack camping.

832
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: It's it's very true, like you've been through something similar,

833
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: so nothing's like end of the world, or you've learned

834
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: to adapt. You've learned what's important on these things, and

835
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: it just by doing it but not necessarily starting it

836
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: the absolute hardest level of the hunt.

837
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: You just learn to adapt.

838
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: And it's it's crazy how you almost like condition your

839
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: mind to like, all right, I can get through this.

840
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: I've been through something worse, or it doesn't matter if

841
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: I'm fifteen miles, I'll eventually be able to hike out,

842
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: or you know, we can do these other things. And

843
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: so no, I just wanted to piggyback on that again

844
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: that yeah, pick something, pick something that is doable, not

845
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: you know, there's not huge ramifications if it doesn't work

846
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: out or you don't bring the right gear, and then

847
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: expand on it, expand on a little bit more, and

848
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: you know, realize that you're your tent's not good enough

849
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: to go through another rainstorm like that if you were

850
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: deeper had to actually stay on the mountain. You know,

851
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: you upgrade materials, you upgrade you know, products, and by

852
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: time you're done, you're like, well, it doesn't bother me

853
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: to live out of this thing for ten days in

854
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: the middle of November, like I'm going to be all right.

855
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the last thing that I was talking to

856
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: a guy a few weeks ago and he said, well,

857
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,799
Speaker 3: I don't you know my friend who who want to

858
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: do this with me? Neither of us have done it,

859
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: so we're just hoping we can find a friend that's

860
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 3: done it. I said, there's a lot of a lot

861
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 3: of resources out there to sort of get yourself prepared.

862
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 3: And then there's gonna be no greater teacher than going

863
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 3: out freezing your water bottle up, having to go there.

864
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 3: See that half day, it's not a life and death

865
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 3: learning that lesson that. It's you know, it's going in

866
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 3: your sleeping bag or when you're actively hunting through the day.

867
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 3: I mean, it gets cold late where your water's gonna

868
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: freeze up if it's not inside your puffy yep, So

869
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 3: I'll just stuff it in there and and then the

870
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: good news is you're working hard, you got your water there.

871
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 3: It's little things like that that that's why if you

872
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 3: go slow, you know, the penalty for making those errors

873
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: isn't too great, but it sure builds you up. Now

874
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 3: you're not gonna free You're gonna learn how to protect

875
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 3: your water or you know, any other things set in

876
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 3: your tent up where it doesn't get managing the snow

877
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 3: when it falls. Hey, if you're in a tepee tent

878
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: and you're not going to manage your snow, it's snowing

879
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: all day, but you want to keep out grinding hiking,

880
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: well you might pay the price when you get back

881
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 3: in your poles tour right through and you know it's yeah,

882
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 3: that's what you want to learn a little closer. You

883
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: want to walk out in the dark that three miles

884
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 3: because your tent's blown up and just say, well, I

885
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: better manage snow better next time because I want to

886
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 3: go deeper.

887
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Or and then I always look at everything with like,

888
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: what's my emergency action? If this does fail, my sleeping

889
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: bagels probably still be all right even if my tent collapses,

890
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: and I can always start a fire and like lay

891
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 1: by it to get through the night if I absolutely

892
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: you know. So you're always like, worst case, what what

893
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: are my skills?

894
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: What can I know?

895
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: I can probably get a fire going, you know, And

896
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: so you're always kind of balancing those as well.

897
00:46:58,160 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: It takes a lot to drive me out of the

898
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: back country. So I've had stuff go wrong and I'm

899
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: faking it together just fine. I just got to get

900
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 3: through those nights. I've had long nights. The funny thing

901
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: the night before opener when I shot and missed Chap

902
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, we slept under my sheep tart,

903
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 3: no pads, nothing, and you know, I remember in the night,

904
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 3: I was just had my legs hovering and I was

905
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 3: scissor kicking as fast as I can just generate body heat.

906
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: It's just waking up the whole time. So yeah, yeah,

907
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 3: we'll do We'll do crazy.

908
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm similar, I'll do crazy stuff to make sure that

909
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: I bring myself the best chance for success. So yeah, yeah,

910
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: you just got to be mentally tough in power through. Well,

911
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: I know you need to probably get back to the

912
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: show where we're coming up here on fifty minutes, So

913
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 1: I do want to give you a chance to actually

914
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: tell people how they can get a hold of you,

915
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 1: how they can find your stuff.

916
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: Watching all of that.

917
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: Sure, like I mean the HIGHB Just search high BC

918
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,240
Speaker 3: on YouTube you'll you'll come across our channel. We are.

919
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 3: We are experiencing a pretty nice growth curve right now.

920
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 3: So that's been fun to see and the community grow

921
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: also on Instagram at high Underscore BC Underscore Hunting, and

922
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 3: then we're I signed for a second season on h

923
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 3: on Wild TV, which is our Canadian hunting network show there,

924
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: so so I'll be on there again this year. It

925
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 3: all seems like it's the world's spinning pretty fast. Like

926
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: even sitting on this podcast like that, that didn't even

927
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 3: seem imaginable.

928
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: So I know you're here.

929
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: We go good, Like we talked offline a little bit,

930
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: like you know, we I get asked a lot like

931
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: how do I get an hunting industry? How do I

932
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: get an interview with you? And I'm like I told you,

933
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, just go do cool stuff like go go

934
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: chase it down and like we'll note it, you know,

935
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: I'll notice or we'll we'll eventually get put in touch

936
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: and and so yeah, that's that's what we'll close with that. Actually,

937
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: like you mentioned it, just go do cool stuff and

938
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: you had your own little spin on that, and I'll

939
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:03,759
Speaker 1: let you sign us off here.

940
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well, thanks everyone for listening, and thanks again

941
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 3: for this opportunity and look forward to seeing you everyone

942
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: out in the hills. Let's get after it.