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Speaker 1: So in twenty eleven, that was a year I want

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl? Or do you keep your Super Bowl ring?

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Speaker 2: It's locked up in the safe.

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Speaker 1: Locked up, And to say, if you don't ever bring

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Speaker 1: and do you ever bring it out?

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Speaker 2: Just it just stay right.

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Speaker 3: Now bringing out if I'm doing typically if i'm doing

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Speaker 3: like a speaking engagement, but other than that, there's really

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Speaker 3: not a scenario that I bring it out.

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Speaker 2: Man, I keep it locked up.

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Speaker 4: What about you, crickets, crickets, I got no come back.

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Speaker 2: Tailor's. Tailor's like.

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Speaker 5: Right, He's just like, I'm over to.

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Speaker 2: What up, everybody?

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Speaker 1: I'm Penut Tillman And this is the NFL Player's second

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Speaker 1: Acts podcasting with me, as always my trusity co host

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Speaker 1: Miter Roman professional flower blossom lavender Harper.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's lavender, but thank you for

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Speaker 4: the compliments. As always, I'm really excited about still being

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Speaker 4: here in Dallas, putting him down, picking him up, putting

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Speaker 4: I really got a I'm excited to see this our

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Speaker 4: next guest because he's kind of done some really great

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Speaker 4: things on TV.

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Speaker 2: Kin he is doing some great o.

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Speaker 4: I know, but like I don't want to give it

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Speaker 4: all the way at the beginning. It's kind of yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's called a tease, and so just go to it.

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Speaker 4: Let's go get to our guests.

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Speaker 2: Plate seven years in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Mister utility man himself quarterback, running back, tight end, kick returner,

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Speaker 1: part returner, wilde receiver. He Danner should have played center.

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Speaker 1: He drove the bus, he flew the plane. The man

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Speaker 1: did everything. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the pod.

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Speaker 1: Mister Isaiah Stamps.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all good. Yeah, we good. I didn't.

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Speaker 6: I don't think I realized you played that many positions. Like,

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Speaker 6: I didn't know that at all.

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Speaker 2: I was like, wait a minute, it was a little

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Speaker 2: I did too, I had learned how to play wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 3: No, they were clowning me man the first week of practice.

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Speaker 3: So I played quarterback in college.

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Speaker 3: I returned some kicks my red shirt freshman year, because

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Speaker 2: Similar to did you.

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Speaker 6: Do any workouts at wide receiver or anything else?

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Speaker 4: I was playing quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Now I only played half my senior season because I

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Speaker 2: So it was a lot going on at that time.

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Speaker 2: You know what? You're right?

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Speaker 6: And as you said, you called him a unicorn, he

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Speaker 3: It was bainly just about purpose, you know, and it

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, first of all, appreciate you sharing that. So let

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Speaker 2: But it does allow.

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Speaker 4: You to freedom say you know what I need to

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Speaker 4: straight up tea. Yeah, but like what made you say

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Once I start something, I don't stop.

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Speaker 4: You kind of stop that, but I want to know, like,

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Speaker 3: Honestly, at that point in my life, I made a

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Speaker 3: Once I got through high school, I had to turn

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Speaker 3: You know your body, how bad you howbut your body

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Speaker 4: On the pads, Like like day four or five, You're like, dude,

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Speaker 2: Do the p test all the stuff? Right? The people,

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Speaker 3: On, man, random exactly, get random. My body had never

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Speaker 3: when we started running the ropes, doing what they call bumps, right,

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Speaker 3: They do the same thing. So they have all these

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Speaker 2: So if you hit that thing wrong, it looked like

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Speaker 2: it sound like it hurt. Bruh. Listen my back, elevator

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Speaker 3: My back was so swollen, like I could barely lift

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Speaker 2: They are.

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Speaker 3: They from the from the top down. They make you

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Speaker 3: you did you have like a persona like your character?

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Speaker 2: Did you did you get.

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Speaker 6: What was what was that guy's name?

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Speaker 6: Did you have to like come on committed for you?

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Speaker 2: You know what? So DMX is my dude, Yeah right, DMX.

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Speaker 3: So I pretty much channeled like my little inner dog

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Speaker 2: So what was the name or was it? I don't

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Speaker 4: I listened to your interview on when people ask you

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Speaker 2: So they had three rings set up, right, they had

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Speaker 3: Some of it was you had to hit up. They'll

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Speaker 3: you'll go. You got to hit a bump, right, you

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Speaker 3: do when your dog tired? Right, And then they get up.

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Speaker 3: You're running and you're jumping over people on all the stuff.

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Speaker 3: you're doing tucking rolls. Bro mean, your stomach you feel

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Speaker 3: and they're just yelling at you, and man, it was

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Speaker 2: At one point one of them.

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Speaker 3: They had some of the active WWE you know WW

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Speaker 3: And one of the girls come up to me, you know,

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Speaker 2: They like you, all right. So it's at the end

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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 3: Man, they gave me an offer, but yeah, the bread

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Speaker 3: wasn't bread, and so I was like, I appreciate the opportunity,

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Speaker 4: Hey, at least you got the offer that Sometimes it's

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Speaker 4: all you want to know. You was good all you

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Speaker 4: want to That's it what you was good enough.

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Speaker 1: So when you get when you got to the league,

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Speaker 1: the only thing I ever played was corner.

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Speaker 6: Maybe a little bit of safety, that was it. But

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Speaker 2: Think they're interchangeable, would you agree, depending on the scheme

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Speaker 2: I'm asking you.

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Speaker 4: As a safety, I do not think they're that interchangeable.

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Speaker 4: Really no, because I don't want to go outside.

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Speaker 2: Cover yeah yeah, yeah. You like to be able to

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Speaker 4: I want to be able to see everything, Okay, So

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Speaker 4: and not every corner wants to get in that action.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely I did. I wanted to. Yeah, yeah, I wanted

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Speaker 2: all that smoke.

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Speaker 1: What was the best or what was your favorite position

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: No, I mean I would have to say, honestly, in

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Speaker 3: of those I don't want to say it's thankless, right

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Speaker 3: because your teammates appreciate it, right, But from the outward looking.

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Speaker 2: In, it's a thankless role.

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Speaker 3: You do your job and there all right, we're going

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Speaker 3: to commercial, all right, or we're just coming back from commercial, right,

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Speaker 3: Nobody really cares. But for the guys that are on

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Speaker 3: It's a grind. You know, you got to get.

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Speaker 2: A lot of it's gritty. It's a grind. Yeah, absolutely tough. Yeah, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: is that he's just a clown? Is what? Yes, that's

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Speaker 2: what I know. He had to get checks, checks was hidden.

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Speaker 2: You don't know about that grind? So about it? So listen,

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Speaker 2: So he ain't never think nobody.

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Speaker 3: Being a quarterback in college and having never played receiver

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Speaker 3: my first day showing up on the access field because

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Speaker 3: I had on all the pass knee pass, thine pass,

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Speaker 2: They told me I looked like the little man. Again,

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Speaker 2: that's on a poster. So I literally had I didn't

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Speaker 4: If I saw you receiver with all the pass I'm like, bro,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, they are not throwing this ball. I knew how

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, so when I get the first thing that

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Speaker 3: well I did this a little bit like my redshirt

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Speaker 3: But then by being a kick returner, you had to

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Speaker 3: most lagers man? So whoever that might be sometimes it

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Speaker 3: might be one hundred and sixty pound dude. Most times

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Speaker 3: it's gonna be about a two sixty.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: So now all of a sudden, having played quarterback my

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Speaker 3: once they showed that you could do that, okay, so

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Speaker 3: you could return the ball, you could run, you could

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Speaker 3: block these dudes, okay, next to me?

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Speaker 2: Want you do?

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Speaker 3: You gotta cover some kicks, right, So it just kept

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Speaker 3: going and going right, So we went from kick offf

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Speaker 3: return to kick off, to keep a punt, return to punt.

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Speaker 2: You end up doing it all. But I love it.

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Speaker 6: You're a team player and you were doing anything to

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Speaker 6: help your team win the game. I would have too, man,

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Speaker 6: but that no, they didn't need me for that.

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Speaker 2: He said, that wasn't my job. My job.

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Speaker 1: Dude always tries to get out of it when he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to run from it.

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Speaker 6: I don't care. I'm just like, I'm not a special teams.

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Speaker 2: Guy for sure, never was, and some guys don't have

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Speaker 6: And did you know this, he ain't want that smoke.

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Speaker 6: It was different and everybody knows this. If you don't

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Speaker 6: do it early.

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Speaker 4: You can't just like be a special teams guy after

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Speaker 4: like seven eight years.

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Speaker 2: Did you ever do like, were you ever a wedge

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Speaker 2: buster like the L five? Oh my god. Yeah, we

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Speaker 6: The body I was always the one. I was a

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Speaker 3: Bro Listen, this is about again for those that are

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Speaker 3: listening right now, there's no wedges.

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Speaker 2: You don't have no real kid. Back of the day,

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Speaker 2: you was running for forty to fifty yards and the.

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Speaker 3: Only thing that was going to stop you was a

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Speaker 3: wall of three to four three hundred pounds dudes. Yes,

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Speaker 3: and you had to make some business decisions on whether

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Speaker 3: or not you wanted your job batter enough to go

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Speaker 3: in there.

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Speaker 2: And that was real.

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Speaker 4: That was also before they had the five yard rule too,

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Speaker 4: you could tie it rot so you are you could

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Speaker 4: be you did matp you started the other end zone.

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Speaker 4: Can you can start it so you can get your speed?

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Speaker 4: And everybody had their own little time, you know.

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Speaker 3: Speaking about Chicago, I'm pretty sure it's crossed over to

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Speaker 3: the time that you was there.

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Speaker 2: Israel doneja? Oh my god? Yeah? Texting them yesterday first

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Speaker 2: seventy one.

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Speaker 3: Listen, we're about to play seventy one. Bro so detacled

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Speaker 3: walk into a special teams meeting room. Coach just gets

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Speaker 3: up there and says, okay, show you guys what y'all

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Speaker 3: dealing with this week. Literally takes the laser highlights seventy

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00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,840
Speaker 3: one right there at five. It says, watch him. This

444
00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:58,800
Speaker 3: dude runs, big dude right about two seventy five to

445
00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,880
Speaker 3: eighty five. Yeah yeah, running down there now, untouched right.

446
00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,360
Speaker 3: Front line doesn't touch him, second line doesn't touch them.

447
00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,520
Speaker 3: They let him go all the way through to the

448
00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,159
Speaker 3: wedge as he gets culture because they thinking that, you know,

449
00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,200
Speaker 3: six seventy hundred pounds is going to stop him. Right

450
00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,640
Speaker 3: as he gets closer to the wedge about ten years out, somehow,

451
00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,680
Speaker 3: some way, this juggernaut speeds up right. He accelerates as

452
00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,840
Speaker 3: he sees the wall coming at him, he accelerates. Bust

453
00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,480
Speaker 3: these dudes straight in the wedge. All you saw was

454
00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:31,120
Speaker 3: a mouthpiece fly out somebody's helmet again. One dude versus

455
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,640
Speaker 3: three lays out both of these casts. Both of these

456
00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,080
Speaker 3: guys sleep. The coaches like, this is what y'all dealing

457
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:37,640
Speaker 3: with this week?

458
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,720
Speaker 2: Bruh, Yeah he was. He was a different he was different.

459
00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,480
Speaker 2: No seen him. I want no smoke. I didn't want

460
00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,200
Speaker 2: no party. No, I was like somebody on the front

461
00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,200
Speaker 2: line trip him something.

462
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,520
Speaker 6: Well, that's what it used to like shadow at him,

463
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:50,440
Speaker 6: like flash at the FLA.

464
00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,080
Speaker 2: He wasn't. He didn't care about no flash.

465
00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,639
Speaker 4: So you flash at somebody early and then they just

466
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,200
Speaker 4: yet slow him down early so they can't build.

467
00:18:58,200 --> 00:18:59,440
Speaker 2: You ever seen the jugging Nott slow down?

468
00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 1: No, So with all the positions that you made, what

469
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 1: was your welcome to the NFL moment?

470
00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 2: Welcome to the NFL moment, like several of them. No,

471
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:08,919
Speaker 2: I did it.

472
00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,639
Speaker 3: I think it happened to be in the preseason actually,

473
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,440
Speaker 3: when we're playing against at the time, the San Diego Chargers.

474
00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 2: It was there was a dude by the name of

475
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,560
Speaker 2: Apple White. I can't remember his first name.

476
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,639
Speaker 3: He was a big dude, about two sixty and again

477
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:22,800
Speaker 3: as an off returney, they kicked it to the other

478
00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,080
Speaker 3: return man. So now I'm blocking MDM. Dude comes down

479
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,439
Speaker 3: and he literally is coming. I'm like, okay, well I

480
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 3: can't punk out right. I got a man up and

481
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,679
Speaker 3: I went to go hit him, but I didn't hit

482
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,240
Speaker 3: him head up. Yeah, you know, you try to turn

483
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,240
Speaker 3: your like I'm gonna do my job, but I don't.

484
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,080
Speaker 3: I really don't want this, you know, so you can

485
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 3: turn your head to the side. Hit me in the

486
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:43,040
Speaker 3: temple and literally I tried to look and I couldn't

487
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,840
Speaker 3: see in my eyes, no life, myself, My eyes was

488
00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:47,639
Speaker 3: back here somewhere.

489
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm literally eyes, bro, I couldn't see, but I couldn't see.

490
00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 2: So I'm literally on the field trying to get my

491
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,960
Speaker 2: eyes to get back right. Yeah. It was gone.

492
00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, bro, that was my come to Jesus moment

493
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,919
Speaker 3: that I was like, I'm here, here, where we're here,

494
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 3: He's are grown men.

495
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 7: How I look, I look, We're going to take a

496
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,680
Speaker 7: short break and we'll be right back.

497
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,040
Speaker 6: In two thousand and nine, you played with the Patriots.

498
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 4: Yes, you signed with Patriots, Bill Belichick and that whole crew,

499
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,720
Speaker 4: and they said you're going to play quarterback for us. Yeah,

500
00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 4: so coming to you play quarterback all college? All right,

501
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 4: you were a superb athlete in high school, play quarterback

502
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 4: in college. Get drafted, you're like, you're going to be

503
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 4: a wide receiver and a utility guy. Then free agency,

504
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,360
Speaker 4: we will sign you and you're going to play quarterback

505
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:40,880
Speaker 4: now for us?

506
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 2: What was that like?

507
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,040
Speaker 3: It was dope because I had went through a lot

508
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: of surgeries coming out of college. I had my foot

509
00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 3: that I blew out, right, so I had that, you know,

510
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,200
Speaker 3: two surgeries to repair that. You know, I killed my

511
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 3: draft stock. Then I get drafted at a position I

512
00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,119
Speaker 3: never played at. I get the Dallas I literally have

513
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,239
Speaker 3: three straight injuries that require surgeries, right, So I mean

514
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 3: I had five surgeries. Boom boo boom ba boom. Right,

515
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 3: So my time in Dallas was over and just due

516
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: to that. So I'm sitting at the house. You know,

517
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 3: if you get those last cuts after training camp, you're

518
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 3: sitting around because it's a long weekend, right And I'm

519
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 3: playing Call of Duty with my with my best friend

520
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: and my phone rings. I don't recognize the number. I

521
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,960
Speaker 3: answer it and he's like, yeah, this is Isaiah and I'm like, yeah,

522
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 3: who's it. He's like, oh, this is Bill Belichick And

523
00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,159
Speaker 3: I'm like, sure, this is you know, but you try

524
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 3: to act cool, you know, you're good, what's up?

525
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,000
Speaker 2: What's up? Yeah? He was like, well this is He's like,

526
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,920
Speaker 2: this is Bill. He's like, you know, can you still

527
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: throw the ball.

528
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 6: I'll go back in his voice, I like it better?

529
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: You like that better? Yeah.

530
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 3: He's like, he's like, can you still throw the ball

531
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: like that? And I was like, yeah, you know, and

532
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,440
Speaker 3: because in my heart I'm still a QB.

533
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,360
Speaker 2: Yeah you know what I mean.

534
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 3: Like, I've been playing receiver, I've been doing all the

535
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: special things, but I'm a quarterback. I'm out of position, right,

536
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 3: I'm a fish out of water. I'm making it happen.

537
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 3: I'm in the league, but this isn't what I really do.

538
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: So he gives me that here. I'm like absolutely. So

539
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 3: he's like okay, He's like, well, we.

540
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: Were going to draft you and the fourth, but Dallas

541
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,800
Speaker 2: got you first.

542
00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: So I was like, bet so Dallas drafts me as

543
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 3: a receiver, but I got Bill Belichick that would have

544
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: drafted me as a quarterback. Literally, get on the flight

545
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: the next day, go out there, do a workout with

546
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: him and Billy O'Brien.

547
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 2: They said, okay, you can still throw the work. You

548
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 2: can still throw the ball. I'm on practice squad. Had

549
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: you been throwing the ball? I was wondering? And two

550
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: years were you the rock?

551
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: What's the mindset from going to kick returner to tight

552
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:36,440
Speaker 1: end to receiver to quarterback, Like, what's the what's the mindset?

553
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like, it's whatever position you play,

554
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 1: it's in my opinion, different mindset.

555
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 3: Is completely different mindset. Yeah, so be honest with you,

556
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 3: I was trying. I literally went back and started watching

557
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: my college film. I had to go back and start

558
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 3: watching my college film to remember who I was at

559
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 3: that position.

560
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,120
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, absolutely are who you are?

561
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 3: No, I mean, because honestly, I have been through a

562
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 3: lot injury wise, I had been through a lot feeling

563
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 3: like I was impersonating a receiver, you know, and never

564
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 3: haven't really been taught to play receiver. So now I'm

565
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: trying to reidentify myself with who I truly am. But

566
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,959
Speaker 3: I'm rusty, right, I'm rusty, and not rusty from not

567
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: only just from the physical aspect, but from the logistics

568
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 3: and from the mentality. To your point, So, you know,

569
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 3: showing up in New England and now all of a sudden,

570
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 3: I'm sitting in a room where I was sitting in

571
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 3: a room with te O and Terry Glenn and you know,

572
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 3: and Patrick Craid and now I'm sitting in a room

573
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 3: with freaking Tom Brady, you know, and I'm.

574
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,480
Speaker 2: Like, oh, okay, well this is this is this is different,

575
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 2: you know, and he's the considered the goat. Now he's

576
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 2: in the prime. So trying to wrap my head back around.

577
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 3: Okay, you can't walk in the huddle as a receiver anymore, right,

578
00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: walking back in the huddle, now everybody's looking at you.

579
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 3: You got to command, right, you have to command the

580
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 3: huddle right. So literally, for like the first week or so,

581
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 3: I was struggling with that. You know, taking command was

582
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 3: really the thing that I had to really get back into.

583
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: So so that took some took a little bit.

584
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 3: But I you know, as being a backup, I was

585
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: a third string quarterback, but I was also going to

586
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: the receiver meetings and I was also going to the

587
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: special teams meetings.

588
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 2: So once I started.

589
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 3: Helping out being on as a as a scout team

590
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 3: guy pretty much you know, a practice player at that time.

591
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 3: After the first week of practice, Coach Belichick came up

592
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: to me because I was killing in that receiver right,

593
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 3: that was what I've been naturally doing now for the

594
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 3: last three years. He was like, I need you to

595
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 3: I need you in the game, So learn this ginormous playbook.

596
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 3: We already have learned it. We're already installing another one

597
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: hundred and some odd players a week. Catch up that was,

598
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 3: that was a conversation. So I literally was splitting time

599
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 3: between the quarterback rooms. I would do stuff with you know,

600
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 3: watching film with TV twelve, watching how he broke down

601
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: stuff and how he prepared. And then I would literally

602
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 3: go hop over with Tom Brady West, you know, Jules,

603
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 3: you know all those guys. So had that opportunity. And

604
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 3: then I was in special teams meeting, so literally I

605
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 3: was became the first practice squad player at the time

606
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: who was a allowed to travel. Bill Belichick didn't allow

607
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: practice players to travel, and you guys, you don't know

608
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 3: they too, They just don't, right. But I was understudy

609
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: at the time, and he wanted me to hear the plays.

610
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 2: Right.

611
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 3: I was clipboard. I was clipboard, Jesus right. I was

612
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: that guy writing all the plays down with the earpiece.

613
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 3: And I had to catch up. So by week six

614
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 3: I was playing, right. So by week six of the season,

615
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 3: I was playing, and I had to know the offense

616
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 3: enough and I was still playing ketchup and my mind

617
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 3: was going like this, yeah, but yeah, it was.

618
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: It was a whirlwind.

619
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 3: So my first game, I was actually number I started

620
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: off as number nine because I was quarterback, right, But

621
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 3: as soon as I entered the game as a receiver,

622
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: the league sent sent a memo to the team and said, hey,

623
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,119
Speaker 3: he has to change his number to a double digit.

624
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 3: So they changed my number to fifteen so I could

625
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 3: play quarterback and receiver.

626
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: Sweet.

627
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 4: Now that before that's well, you know, instead of having

628
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 4: to put the big fat jersey on over the top

629
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,440
Speaker 4: of it like they do at college.

630
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 6: Sometimes you also played for Coaughland.

631
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 4: Yep, right, what is some similarities or or where the

632
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 4: differences between Belichick and caff Like Caughlin we've heard is

633
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 4: tough like five minutes before. Yeah, buddy, it is like,

634
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 4: I mean, he says nine, but it's really eight fifty five,

635
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 4: and then acts like eight fifty five is not late.

636
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean. So and then like

637
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 2: everybody knows these stories, I've heard of it. Yeah, no, no, no,

638
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 2: change your clock, like Legit sat there with you, like, hey, listen,

639
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: it's yeah exactly. If it's really nine o'clock, y'all better

640
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 2: set your watches, set your phones. Take fifty five because

641
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,959
Speaker 2: we're five minutes early, right, and if you do, if

642
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 2: you're late, that's stacks coming out your check when it's

643
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: really all time. But yeah, that's what it was. Yep.

644
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 6: So what are some simulators?

645
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: What the difference is?

646
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 6: What would your what would you say, is like.

647
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,640
Speaker 4: Man, this is what this one made, made who they

648
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 4: were and vice versa.

649
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 3: So I was spoiled, man, I'll spoiled a lead to

650
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 3: be playing for some really good organizations.

651
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: But the difference between.

652
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: Belichick and Coughlan, I would say, Belichick, you had to

653
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: be overly prepared mentally, right, overly prepared. And when I

654
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 3: say that, I mean, like, legit, the whole team in

655
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: the team meeting room when you came in for your

656
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: team meeting, he would quiz everybody, Yeah, I've heard that.

657
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: So my first team meeting in New England, I sit,

658
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 3: you know, sitting with the quarterbacks, and I see Tom

659
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: and Wes and Moss and I'm looking around, you know,

660
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 3: you're just trying to get us see your surroundings, and

661
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 3: you see everybody with their books out. It's Wednesday, right,

662
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 3: so you just got your book supposedly, right. Honestly, most

663
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: guys came in on Tuesday and got there is in

664
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 3: New England. But Wednesday, guys are flipping through their book

665
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,880
Speaker 3: and I'm like, this guy's is stressing out what is going?

666
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, like, what is kas's doing it?

667
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 3: And Coach gets up there and everybody takes her book down,

668
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: throws it under the chairs. He's like, hey, Wes, uh,

669
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: tell me who the kicker is for the Miami Dolphins, right,

670
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: And you know, West gives an answer.

671
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 2: All right, Coach. He's like, all right, so what college

672
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: did he go to? You know? How tall is? He

673
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: starts asking all these questions and Wes is like, I

674
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: don't freaking know. Coach.

675
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: He's like, boy, you better freaking know that's not that

676
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 3: you're word to use, but you better freaking know he's

677
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 3: gonna be kicking you that damn ball.

678
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 2: But he was. He was just intense like that.

679
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: And we would go on our plane and you would

680
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: be given up a test like a full on packet

681
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: with hardly anything on it, which is separate in the

682
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 3: play call.

683
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: Your your job was to fill it out and hand

684
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: it done before you got off the plane. So where

685
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: you got off the plane before you got the plane?

686
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: What I want my nap No what where you're working

687
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 2: on the clock. That was the mentality.

688
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: You were always mentally prepared, which is why when you

689
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: saw them play, you never felt like they were out

690
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 3: of it. They never seemed like they were panicking because

691
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: they had prepared for every scenario, every situation. In New York,

692
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 3: it was more of a.

693
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 2: Gritty physical mentality, right.

694
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: Like Coach Kauflin is a disciplinarian obviously, right, We just

695
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 3: talked about him in the time. But I can give

696
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 3: you example my first week there again, I got there

697
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 3: as a practice squad guy, right, I had to put

698
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 3: my time in.

699
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 2: But at this time I'm a vet, right, So I'm

700
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: in my what year of miam at that point, and

701
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: I've been in it for four years, right, five years?

702
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: At this point.

703
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: I get there and literally one of the you know,

704
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 3: lower coaches comes in and you know, they're stressing with

705
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: the cards and they're get over here green.

706
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 2: No grabbing guys, you know, just you know what I mean, right,

707
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: the car, the car, the cars quality control. They be

708
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: sure that's that's their job, and don't get that right

709
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: the head coach being and the coach has been yelling

710
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 2: at them.

711
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 3: So now they have the power that would do what

712
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 3: yell a yell at you. However, I'm a vet right

713
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: and you ain't. Yeah, you're not going to talk to

714
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 3: me any.

715
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 6: Yellow hat or the green hat or the blue hat.

716
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: Like, okay, you're with me. Yeah. So he grabs me this,

717
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: this coach grabs me. I said, get the f.

718
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: Over here, and I'm like, whoa play, hold on, this

719
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: is my figure. This is my first, like second day there.

720
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 3: I'm like, hold on, like it don't.

721
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 2: Require all that.

722
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 3: He's like what, I'm like, Lloyd, lower your tone, right,

723
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 3: I'm a grown man. He's like, oh, real, eving smart,

724
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: you know, new guy d So we're.

725
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: Literally face to face offensive walkthroughs on one side, defensive

726
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 2: walkthroughs on the other field. You guys remember that.

727
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm in the face to face with the

728
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: quality control coach and we're going head to head. Eli's quiet,

729
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 3: be Jacob's quiet, big cruze. Everybody's like, oh no, like

730
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 3: the new cat, newcast's wild, right, even.

731
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 2: Though I wasn't in the wrong.

732
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 3: There's like this this tiff between me and this coach

733
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 3: and it's like about to go down, and literally that

734
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 3: the whole thing is broken up. But I look over

735
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: over his shoulder and Coach Cofflin's over there, his arms

736
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 3: cross is smiling, He's like, yeah yeah. And from that

737
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 3: point forward, I had his respect and I had to

738
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 3: respect of for the rest of the coaches because I

739
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 3: wasn't no pump. Yeah, I wasn't disrespectful, but I wasn't

740
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: no pump, right. So that kind of gives you an

741
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: example of like how he wanted some goons out there, right,

742
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 3: He wanted some boons. He wanted some cats that had

743
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: a little edge to him, but wasn't going to cross

744
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: the line, right. So it was there was a physicality

745
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 3: to that team and to the culture that he that

746
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: he elicited in New York, and you felt it. You know,

747
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 3: you felt it from the time that you're in the

748
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: weight room to the time you're on the field to

749
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,479
Speaker 3: the time you handed the ball off to be Jacobs

750
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 3: good luck, you know what I'm saying. Like there was

751
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: just an attitude that that he had and it stemmed

752
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: from coach, did you have a.

753
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: Tackle, Brandon James?

754
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 6: Uh? I have, But he also ran me over before

755
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 6: he touched.

756
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: Off six four. It's kind of hard to stuff.

757
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: You're going to look that up, Tom, see Tom and

758
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: shaking his head. So twenty eleven, that was a year

759
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: I won the Super Bowl? Or do you keep the

760
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring?

761
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: It's just it's locked up in the safe.

762
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: Locked up, and say if you don't ever bring it

763
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: out during Super I know we saw you Super Bowl.

764
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: Do you ever bring it out? Just it just stay

765
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: right now.

766
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 3: Bring it out if I'm doing typically if I'm doing

767
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 3: like a speaking engagement. But other than that, there's really

768
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 3: not a scenario that I bring it out. Man, I

769
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 3: keep it locked up.

770
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: What about you, crickets, crickets.

771
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 6: I got no come back.

772
00:31:50,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 8: Taylor's Tailor's like, he's just like, yeah.

773
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: I'm over to. No, You're good, I'm over You played

774
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: with my dog Tank, Yeah that was my big bro

775
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: in college. Man, Yeah I am. I am over to.

776
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: But switching topics retirement second act.

777
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 6: So when I retired, I got into a job immediately, right.

778
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 6: I enjoyed it. I did TV, live TV.

779
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: My guy over here did absolutely nothing for three hundred

780
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: and sixty five days. He was just a a stay

781
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: at home dad, a bomb, played some golf if he

782
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 1: didn't get to the laundry. And I'm gonna get to

783
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: it the next thing. Correct my question to you, is

784
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: would you do as soon as you're retired?

785
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I tore my achilles my fourth year in

786
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: the league, my contract year, and it's actually before I

787
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 3: won a super Bowl.

788
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: At that point in time, I recognized, this probably.

789
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: Isn't what God necessarily has in store for me all

790
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 3: the way, you know, it's a part of my journey.

791
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: So I started my Executive NBA program. So I went, so,

792
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: go get my Executive NBA from.

793
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 3: George Washington University, and from that I used that to

794
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 3: help me try to figure out my transition. Because everything

795
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 3: that we've always heard and analytics wise, is most players

796
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 3: go broke, right, Most players, you know, start having issues

797
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: with you know, mental issues because they're you know, they're

798
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: so sad about not knowing what to do next. Right,

799
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 3: because your whole life you focus on this one thing,

800
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 3: you attain it early. Now you're retired at thirty and

801
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 3: what else is going on? I wanted to learn from

802
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 3: other people's mistakes. I didn't have to learn the hard way.

803
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: So I took it upon myself to go get my

804
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 3: my NBA and then literally where'd you get it from?

805
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: George Washington? George Washington, excuse me? So I didn't want to.

806
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 3: I didn't know exactly what I wanted to do. I

807
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: had opportunities to go into finance and all the stuff,

808
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: but I'm like, I'm not about to be calling my

809
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: boys asking to have access to their finances, right, I'm

810
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 3: not gonna. I value my relationships too much. So I

811
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: started at the time my wife, we had just had

812
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 3: a kid. So I wanted to do something for post

813
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: NATO prenatal with the women, you know. But also I

814
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 3: wanted to kind of stay close to the performance side

815
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: with the sports. But I hated the politics and sports,

816
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 3: you know. I had been tarnished by that. So I

817
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: found a way to just create this business called Steadfast

818
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 3: Fitness and Performance and really just tied it all together.

819
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: I mean so literally. I started that business prior to

820
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 3: my last year in the league. My last year in

821
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 3: the league actually got fired and found out I was

822
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: having twins the same day.

823
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: Damn.

824
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a bad combo, bro. So I found out

825
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: I was having twins, and an hour later got fired.

826
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, Yes, this time, I'm done.

827
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: I'm done. So literally walked came home and went straight

828
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: to work, walked into the facility and started trying to

829
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: build a community.

830
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 6: You had this idea of the steadfast, did you?

831
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 4: I saw your co owner yea, yeah, with you on

832
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 4: the website and so were you guys just always thinking

833
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 4: about this, talking about this because you know it's hard

834
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 4: to you have this idea, but how do you get

835
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 4: it from an idea out of your mind into all

836
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: of a sudden into a building and also building a

837
00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 4: community from there.

838
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 2: Man, I am a proactive individual.

839
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: So I was working out at the gym during off season, right,

840
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: just doing at the normal gyms.

841
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I know there's probably no gym sponsors, so I'm

842
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 2: not gonna drop.

843
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: No names right now, but working out of the regular gym,

844
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 3: and he would see me, and I ended up his

845
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 3: dad actually was my handyman at the crib, right, just

846
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 3: a little hood cat that was doing stuff around the house,

847
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 3: doing the lights and all that, and he was he

848
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 3: became like a little bro right. He would come over

849
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 3: do the ladders with me. I was the only cat

850
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: in the gym doing the ladders and box jumps and

851
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: all the performance stuff right o edicats and they're just

852
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 3: getting their lips on. So I took him under my

853
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: wing and he started to figure out that. You know,

854
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 3: he was a believer like me. He was you know,

855
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 3: self driven, you know, a motivated athlete, all the things right,

856
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: So we had a lot in common. So when we

857
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 3: started thinking about this transition, my wife and I, actually

858
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: my wife was one who came up with the worst

859
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: step ass first print then is fifteen fifty eight B

860
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 3: stepass in the bound in the Lord and all your ways.

861
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: So he was able to tie the faith element into

862
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: it as well. I knew that he was on board

863
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: with that. He had went to the school for kinesiology,

864
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 3: and I knew that he wanted to ultimately have a facility.

865
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 3: So when I started it, I was like, there's no

866
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: better person that I could link up with who not

867
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: only knows this space better than me, but also has

868
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: the vision that I have and understands the realm that

869
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 3: I'm coming from. And we were able to tie it

870
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 3: all together and really create something pretty special.

871
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: So now we're just wrapping up here. We just wrapped

872
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: up year twelve. Oh man, Okay, year twelve.

873
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 6: So you're doing the steadfast fitness. Where did the TV

874
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 6: space come from? Yeah?

875
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 2: Like, where did I know?

876
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 6: You co host Good Morning Football sometimes?

877
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: So where did that. Yeah, love for speaking and talking, which.

878
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: You do a great job.

879
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,439
Speaker 3: I appreciate you for us honestly with my wife again,

880
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 3: she got tired of me as a former quarterback player,

881
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: receive all the stuff right. I have a different perspective

882
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 3: of the games, so I don't like watching games in

883
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 3: front of it. You know what a bunch of people.

884
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: I like to really watch the game. So I'm at

885
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 3: the house, sitting on the couch and I would be

886
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 3: calling stuff out. I'll be calling out coverages, I'll be

887
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 3: calling out where the ball is going to go, all

888
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: the things. And then after it happened, the commentator would

889
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 3: say it would say the same thing, and she.

890
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 2: Would like always hit me. I'm like what she was like, like,

891
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: go out here, please explore this. I'm like, all right.

892
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 3: So I finally made a commitment to myself to just

893
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 3: be Dora the Explorer and go figure figure it out.

894
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: Uh.

895
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 3: The NFL had a program that was called a Speakers

896
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: Bureau that was down at USC went down there and

897
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: learned how to present in the public setting, learn how

898
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 3: to get your thoughts together, how to you know, just

899
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 3: be able to perform in that regard. End up meeting

900
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: somebody named Jerry madelon right and shout.

901
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 6: Out these guys everywhere.

902
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,479
Speaker 2: He is the Jedi on air.

903
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 6: Oh, he does Jedi.

904
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: He does.

905
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 6: The Jedi of on air.

906
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 3: G Matt is the man, so ended up linking with him, right,

907
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 3: So again the power of network. G Matt ended up

908
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: calling me and was like, Hey, the Cowboys are looking

909
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 3: for somebody to do a podcast.

910
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: Is that something that you'll be interested in. I think

911
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 2: you're in Dallas. Says yeah.

912
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: So Derek Eagleton, who just runs the media in Dallas,

913
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 3: ends up touching base with me and was like, hey, yeah,

914
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: I actually heard you speak at my church and I

915
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: want to talk to you. But there's some people so

916
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: it just never really happened. Long story short, COVID years there, right,

917
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: So we're doing podcasts from the house, you know, everybody

918
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 3: zooming in all the jazz. So they send me all

919
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 3: my equipment and that's how it started. So I started

920
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 3: off doing a podcast for the Cowboys. That one podcast

921
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: turned into doing seven different shows on the Dallas Cowboys

922
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: dot com. That turned into doing a pregame show for

923
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 3: CBS locally for Dallas, and then I ended up doing

924
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 3: the broadcast boot Camp referred through the NFL because my

925
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: first time was doing it online because of COVID year,

926
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 3: so they let me do it in person. And then

927
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: from that experience, I was able to get the opportunity

928
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 3: to do Good Morning Football and get just a little

929
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 3: little rooky deal there.

930
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 6: What a story, get.

931
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 4: Them reps telling you it is all about about the reps.

932
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 4: Shout out to Tracy because you know it's it's no

933
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 4: longer a boot camp.

934
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: It's not. That's right, it's work work workshop.

935
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 6: I went with the boot camp too.

936
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 2: Facts get into boot camp.

937
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: I tried twice and told me it's like three hundred

938
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 1: people told me no, and I thought I was good.

939
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 2: You good.

940
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 4: Now, do you ever reach back out to former players,

941
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 4: teammates and anything like that that you ever maybe use

942
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 4: as inspiration to keep you going, especially with some of

943
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 4: the things that you've kind of been through. I mean

944
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 4: you've been through, you know, all the injuries. I mean,

945
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: you've made seven years in carib but I mean over

946
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: half of it was all injuries and mostly Yeah, and

947
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 4: so when you bounced around, you played all these but

948
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 4: you were in a lot of the locker rooms.

949
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you seem like a connected person.

950
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 4: Sure, and because of that, you probably built out a

951
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 4: lot of relationships and so has that How is that

952
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: probably motivated you or helped elevate you to get you

953
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 4: to where you are right now?

954
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: You know what to be honest with you, because I'm

955
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: such a network driven person, Like, I never want anybody

956
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 3: to feel when I'm hitting them up that I'm asking

957
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 3: for something. So I am very conscious of when I

958
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 3: pulled my cards. Right, I'll stay in contact with cats obviously,

959
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 3: just on just on some GP stuff, right, just being cool,

960
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 3: checking in. I'll sender text man, just tapping in, thinking

961
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 3: about you, like those type of things. But you know

962
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: what it is when you get back with your boys,

963
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 3: it's like you never like you never missed a step.

964
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 3: But hardly ever do I reach out for anything pertaining

965
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 3: to media. I really try to keep those things separate

966
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: unless it's an absolute have to. So I try to keep

967
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 3: my relationships as genuine as possible. And if I ever

968
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: am in a position where I have to ask for

969
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 3: a favor, they already know that's not that's not like me.

970
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: So they usually come through.

971
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 6: So are you trying to be like? Uh, are you

972
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 6: trying to It's.

973
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: One of my dudes. So I grew up with Nate.

974
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because from the town yea, So he went

975
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 3: to oday was about five minutes from my crib. My

976
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 3: sister used to tutor his brother. I grew up with

977
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 3: his little brother, Windale. So like so the whole fam

978
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 3: I know.

979
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: I mean, well, Nate is such a unique situation. He

980
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 4: is like one of It's like Michael Straham is the first.

981
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,720
Speaker 4: Then it's Nate who's made the crossover and really burst

982
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 4: it out.

983
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

984
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 3: Now he's a blueprint Nate native right now, for anybody

985
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 3: who wants to have their hand in a little bit

986
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 3: of everything, Nate is literally the blueprint. Him and straight

987
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 3: Ham have literally laid the foundation for a path forward,

988
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 3: right in terms of being able to get in all

989
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 3: these different avenues. I like myself. I don't want to

990
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: just be known as a football guy. Like I feel

991
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: like I like my career and like my as an athlete.

992
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 3: I feel like I was a Swiss Army knife. I

993
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 3: feel like I'm the same way in the media space,

994
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 3: right so even on the football platform, and I can

995
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 3: sit down, I can do a podcast, I could do

996
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: you know, a studio analyst, I can do you know,

997
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: super serious show, you know, suiting and booted. I can

998
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: do the color commentator like I feel like I can.

999
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: I can do some WWE What's up all day?

1000
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 3: So I feel I feel blessed to have that flexibility

1001
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 3: and I don't want to be ever be boxed in right,

1002
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 3: So when I look at a potential path forward, those

1003
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 3: are the two individuals, you know, Nate and straight Hand

1004
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 3: are the guys that say, Okay, it's been done. Much

1005
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 3: like my relationship Warm Moon, it's been done. He's shown

1006
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 3: me the way. Okay, I can make it happen.

1007
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, that colon commentary is some different. I did local

1008
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: or excuse me, I did one in London. Yeah, my

1009
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: very first time I ever did it like that live.

1010
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: That was like no, no, though.

1011
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 2: Okay, that's different.

1012
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: That's different too, just like whoa I did it just

1013
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 1: to say I did it. It's a lot of prep, man,

1014
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: there's a whole lot of a lot of a lot

1015
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:20,959
Speaker 1: of prep.

1016
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: And radio is completely different. Radio.

1017
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 3: I've been done radio color commentary. I've only done I

1018
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: do all the Cowboys preseason games. Now for the last

1019
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: four years, I've been doing the Cowboys preseasons. Game started

1020
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: off with one game, then they gave me two, and

1021
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 3: then they gave me all three. So that's completely different

1022
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 3: because I've had to learn so much on how to

1023
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 3: present on air in that regard, right, completely different in

1024
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 3: the studio, completely different. Podcasts is different than everything, right,

1025
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 3: which is why the media space is so intriguing, because

1026
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 3: it's forever changing. And if you're on all these different platforms,

1027
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 3: you get to be the same person, but presented differently, right,

1028
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 3: wrapped in a different package. Radio, it's a completely different approach,

1029
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 3: no doubt, because you have to be so descriptive.

1030
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: Right, and no, that was that was what I struggled.

1031
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, you know, he just ran

1032
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 1: over right there? Where's there?

1033
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 2: You can't you know what I mean? That part it's

1034
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 2: so hard, but it was I had to to do

1035
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: it live.

1036
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 6: And I was like, oh damn.

1037
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: He was like, you gotta be a little bit more descripted.

1038
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 6: I'm like, I got you, but this is my first time.

1039
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: Bro, Like, just give me a little wit. You got

1040
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,800
Speaker 1: one hundred names to remember, one hundred and fifty names memorized.

1041
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I got the names. I just like, I'm

1042
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: I'm working on it. I'm As the fourth quarter came,

1043
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I kind of felt like

1044
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: I got my groove and then the game was over.

1045
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: I was like, we got to do this. Spit stop,

1046
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a quick break. We asked

1047
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,399
Speaker 1: this question to all our people's uh, you get four

1048
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: people mount rushmore from the time you were born till now,

1049
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: the people that have helped influence you, shape you, mold you,

1050
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: people that have poured.

1051
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 6: Into you, loved on you. Who would those four people be?

1052
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: Hmm, Moms is number one for sure. Yeah, you're talking

1053
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: about actual human is right, actual humans. Moms is definitely

1054
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: number one. My wife for my mom real quick though.

1055
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,240
Speaker 3: My Moms was the example of team no excuse.

1056
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 2: You know.

1057
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 3: Moms had three kids by three different three different guys,

1058
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: had my brother at fifteen, had my sister at sixteen.

1059
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 3: She just got after it growing up in the hood.

1060
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: You know, there was no excuse. She didn't make any excuses.

1061
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: It was like, get it, how you live. I'm going

1062
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 3: to make sure that I do everything I can to

1063
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: put you all in a position to be successful. I'm

1064
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 3: do the best that I can. And all of us

1065
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 3: went to college, all of us had opportunities great. So

1066
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: she gave us that right. She gave us that by

1067
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: not being given a lot. So she is definitely the

1068
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: example for me there shut out the mom mom Dukes

1069
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 3: absolutely so moms for sure. My wife has been a

1070
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: big part of my obviously my last my last ten

1071
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 3: plus years.

1072
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,400
Speaker 2: My pops is in there. My pops in there.

1073
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,839
Speaker 3: I didn't spend as much time with my dad growing

1074
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: up as I wanted to because my mom and my

1075
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 3: dad were separated, so it was one of those every

1076
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 3: other weeknd type of deals. But he gave me a

1077
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: different perspective on life. Moms was was hood, my dad

1078
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 3: was not was not hood, but he the faith element

1079
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 3: was big in his house right, not to say that

1080
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 3: wasn't my mom's, but he was all the way in

1081
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 3: So my dad for sure.

1082
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 2: The last person. Mm hmm.

1083
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 3: There's a mentor that I had by the name of

1084
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: Greg greg Alex. He was my taekwondb Greg Alex. Yeah,

1085
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 3: double doubled up g A. Yeah, he was my Taekwon

1086
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 3: door instructor as a as a young as a young

1087
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: cat in the hood.

1088
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: You know, again, not being able to spend a lot

1089
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 2: of time with my pops.

1090
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 3: Greg Alex was the cat that you saw that you

1091
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 3: could look up to and be like, Okay, there's something

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00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: different about him, you know, how he carried himself, the

1093
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 3: faith element that he had. Help professional he was, he

1094
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 3: was such a giver, but he was a mentor and

1095
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: he just showed you how to go about your business

1096
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 3: the right way. So for me, it was Greg Alex

1097
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: and then he became my team chaplain and mentor all

1098
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 3: the way through college too. So he probably doesn't know

1099
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 3: that he had that much of a role in my life.

1100
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, that was my Mount Rushmore. That's probably that's

1101
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: probably what it is.

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00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got one more. I know we usually end

1104
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 6: after that, but you always got it.

1105
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 4: I do, I do, but I want to know because

1106
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 4: I just think Isaiah has such a unique.

1107
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 6: Story story absolutely from all the injuries.

1108
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 4: I mean, you came in as a quarterback after like

1109
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 4: your high school career is crazy, crazy good. You were

1110
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: one of the best players in the country and you

1111
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 4: also were drafted in baseball and so you were like

1112
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 4: this three star athlete, but you choose football. Then you

1113
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 4: kind of like kind of get pushed around and you

1114
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 4: still know what to do. Then you play wide receiver,

1115
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: you do all these other things. Then you go play quarterback.

1116
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,839
Speaker 4: Then you end up in Jacksonville to play tight end

1117
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah Brown, which is crazy. So like the og.

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00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 2: Og bro, he's still doing it. Like, yeah, what is

1119
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: like twenty? You're twenty?

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00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,359
Speaker 4: So when when I repeat your whole story back to you,

1121
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 4: like what is it a story of?

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00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:21,320
Speaker 6: I know it's survival.

1123
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 4: I know it's something else, but I want you to

1124
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 4: give me that word and kind of reflect, like how

1125
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 4: do you reflect on your career and everything that it is?

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00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: But you know, I'm still right here now having on

1127
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 4: on TV. People are listening to my works even though

1128
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 4: they didn't see me all the time play Yeah.

1129
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 2: But I still made it.

1130
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 4: Through all that to be above and have somewhere that

1131
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: so many other people want to be.

1132
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 2: It's what I might.

1133
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 3: My business is called steadfast, and steadfast is something that's unmovable,

1134
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: that's unwavering, that's consistent. Every time that I was knocked down,

1135
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 3: I looked for to the opportunity of proving and disproving people,

1136
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 3: and not only other people but myself.

1137
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: You know, I had. It took me a while through

1138
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 2: faith to.

1139
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 3: Learn that every hurdle, pitfall, whatever you want to call it,

1140
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 3: is an opportunity. Right, whatever adversity you face is an

1141
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 3: opportunity to not only.

1142
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 2: Prove others, but prove to yourself.

1143
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 3: Right, I mean you even Hurtsha Dura Center say the

1144
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 3: other day like this ain't about y'all, this is this

1145
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: is about me. So they said that I couldn't come

1146
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: back from my foot when I was coming into the league.

1147
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: Okay, bet right. It sucks, right, but I did that

1148
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 2: all every term Achilles, every other surgery I had. I

1149
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 2: come back from that.

1150
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 3: You know, transition from the league to to you know,

1151
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 3: regular citizens slash professional, that's hard.

1152
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: Most guys don't do it, bet right. Game on.

1153
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 3: So getting into the media space after having been away

1154
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: from football for so long, all right, you gotta stay

1155
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 3: closer to the game. Once you detach, you really can't

1156
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 3: do it, all right, cool, bet I'll put the work

1157
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 3: in right, So I look forward to the challenges that

1158
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 3: are presented forward for me. And because of that, you

1159
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: have to remain steadfast through it all. We all have

1160
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: a story.

1161
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 2: Everybody, every single person has a story, and everybody has

1162
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 2: an opportunity to remain steadfast or not. That's just a

1163
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 2: competition in you. That's that's just that's just who we are. Yeah.

1164
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 4: Well, Isaiah Man appreciate it. Man, We're gonna let you

1165
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: get up out of here.

1166
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 2: Man.

1167
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 4: I know, according to your steadfastest website, you got a

1168
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 4: TRX bootcamp tomorrow morning, five thirty.

1169
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 2: So you guys do it.

1170
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 6: There's no hell no, damn I'm no, I'm not doing that, all.

1171
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: Right, but no, no, we're gonna we're gonna get out

1172
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: of here.

1173
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 2: Oh now when thank you guys.

1174
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 4: As always, where all of your viewers and listeners, wherever

1175
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 4: you pick up your podcast, whether it's Apple podcasts, our

1176
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:49,280
Speaker 4: Heart Radio, make sure you give us a five star rating,

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00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,920
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1178
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: leave a couple of comments. We like to answer those back.

1179
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 4: We're gonna start getting some feedback. Listen, continue to go.

1180
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 4: Let us know what we could do better? You I

1181
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 4: want to know, and so Peanut man, tell a friend

1182
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 4: to tell afraid to do what? Tell a friend? Make

1183
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 4: sure you check us out on NFL's YouTube channel. All right,

1184
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 4: get us out on Peanut.

1185
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: That's Isaiah, that's

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00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: Roman and this is the NFL Player's second X podcast,