1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,239 Speaker 1: Today is National Voter Registration Day. Inspired by ongoing conversations 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: with players, the NFL, NFL Players Association and Players Coalition 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: together launched NFL Votes to empower and improve our communities 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: through exercising the right to vote. Join the NFL family 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: by registering to vote today and make your voice heard 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: this November. Visit NFL dot com slash votes to learn more. 7 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Be Around with the NFL podcast quietly and restrictfully enjoyed 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: by Canadians. Welcome to another edition of the Around the 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hans is coming to 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: you from a virtual room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, 11 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up? Boys? Excited? Excited because it's not 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: just the critical. Today's Yes. In addition to these two 13 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: heroes joining me today, we have another honorary hero of 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast hit the theme song, Ricky Seat. 15 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: There's a wolf. There's a wolf. There's a wolf. Can't 16 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: flow your house down. There's a wolf. There's a wolf. 17 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: There's a wolf. Can't blow out. Don't swear, don't so long, 18 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do a stupid don't that swear, 19 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: don't don't do it. Don't it Colleen Wolf Welcome back 20 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: to Me Around the NFL podcast. Hell, whoa, I'm back 21 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: better than ever? What is up? As always your your intro. 22 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Hello is a seventy eight year old woman at Bingo 23 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: Night Atlantic City. It's the character I feel most comfortable in. 24 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: It's just funny, like I feel like a couple of 25 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: the other songs. The one song that we did not 26 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: choose is the Colleen Anthem, where it's sort of an 27 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: awkward woman playing puzzles and staring at plants like I'm sorry. 28 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: But I always thought that was a little bit more 29 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: at the Colleen vibe than the excellent UM but rather 30 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: rough and tumble song we've just heard. The other one's 31 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: a little too on the nose. I think it's a 32 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: little too perfect. Contains mult she contains multitude, She's she's 33 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: a little gangster. You know, I'm a very layered person. Yes, Colleen, 34 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: you are obviously such a busy and successful woman. And 35 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: if you are not aware, you are if you're listening 36 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: to the show, because she's the host of Thursday Night 37 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: Football UM every week during the season, and it's coming 38 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: up again on Thursday when the Jaguars and Dolphins tussle 39 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: and also of Good Morning Football on the weekends. And 40 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: now she's she's squeezed in the old old A t 41 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: N podcast and that's very nice of you, So thank you. 42 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: We appreciate listen anything for you guys. This is this 43 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: is easy and comfortable and I'm just so glad to 44 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: hang out with my friends again. I mean, we gave 45 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: you airtime when other when the rest of the company 46 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: wasn't the first. You guys were my first, and I'll 47 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: always remember it, you know. Um. All right, So Connie 48 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: is with us, and that's great because we have so 49 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 1: much you get to Tuesday shows obviously very busy during 50 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: the regular season. We have the Thursday night preview, which 51 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: is perfect with Colleen joining us. I'm sure you've been 52 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: in your binder all week already getting ready for the 53 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: big A f C showdown this weekend. We are going 54 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: to now with two weeks, two games in the books 55 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: for every team in the league, we look around the landscape. 56 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: We're going to deliver some pep talks to those of 57 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: to those in need. Mark and I know this is 58 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: one of those certain assignments on this podcast. I feel 59 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: like Mark will embrace and really truly uh connect with, 60 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: So I'm really looking forward to finding out who you 61 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: plan to speak with and send your message to. Well, 62 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I could use a pep talk myself on 63 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: what to do with the two children that are in 64 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: my house twenty four hours a day without ceasing. But um, yeah, 65 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: I've got a few prepared for various NFL characters that 66 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: I think I need a little kick in the buttocks 67 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: Dan in the old buttocks. Uh. Sizzler and I were 68 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: privately texting before the show about you know, which one 69 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: of us will end up divorced because of COVID nineteen, 70 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: this meteor strike on the family structure, which is twisting 71 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: everyone into a pretzel. It's certainly not healthy. But you know, 72 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: so so far through what like nine percent of the season, 73 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: six percent of the season still standing. That's that's as 74 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 1: much as we can say. I mean, it's not it's 75 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: hard not to dream of like quiet rooms off in 76 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: the distance somewhere with just like sunlight through a window 77 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: in a bookshelf. But um, you know that's that's about 78 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: sixteen years from now or it's greg. Yeah, all right, 79 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: so we're gonna do that. But before we give out 80 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: our pep talks, let's talk about a little Monday Night football. 81 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: Third down ten shotgun snap, the car pitches out the 82 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 1: Rechard got a block from the guard at twenty on 83 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: the nurse and kind of block at the fifteen ten 84 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: the five broke a tackle down the sideline, touchdown Raiders. 85 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: What a run by Richard? Whoa what a play? Twenty 86 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,239 Speaker 1: yard kallip where plucks were made and tackles were broken 87 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: and he rides right into the end zone first six 88 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: for the Raiders. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Monday Night is 89 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: the best kind of day. That bar, Yeah yeah yeah, 90 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: that raid us own Monday Night. My neighbor rich who 91 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: unfortunately can hear everything I say on the show. Um, 92 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: right before we started, came right up to the window 93 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: where I have my set up here and taped it 94 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: on a piece of paper in black Magic, Margaret Raida's 95 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: own Monday Night Raiders box store. And they certainly did. 96 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: They own. The Saints at the Depth Star in Vegas, 97 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: the debut for that fine stadium thirty four to twenty four. 98 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: You heard Jalen Rochard and Kevin Harland with a call 99 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: for Westwood one. Derek Carr thirty eight three touchdowns, no interceptions, 100 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: easily out playing Drew Brees, who once again is going 101 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: to be the subject of much conversation. You feel like 102 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: ahead of the Saints next game against the Packers, Colleen, 103 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: the Raiders are not a team a lot of people 104 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: picked to be a big difference maker in twenty But 105 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: so far, so good too, and oh right now, they've 106 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: been looking good. I mean when this game first started, 107 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: I definitely did not think that this was going to 108 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: go the Raiders way. At the end of the first quarter, 109 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: the Raiders had fifteen passing yards, they took three sacks 110 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,679 Speaker 1: for a loss of twenty three. Things just didn't seem 111 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: to be going their way at all. And then all 112 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Derek Carr just started to heat up. 113 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: And the way that he was able to spread the 114 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: ball around to eleven different paths catchers, Darren Waller looked 115 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: so good in this game. I mean, this was the 116 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: Darren Waller Show. I mean, twelve catches, a hundred and 117 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: three yards, a touchdown. He was an absolute nightmare for 118 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: the Saints defense. And we even had a z A 119 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: Jones spotting, which hey, I was here for that, because 120 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: like that's really when the momentum really started to shift 121 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: in that game, Z Jones shout out, you're right. They're 122 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: getting contributions from a lot of guys. Nelson Agilars made 123 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: key plays for them in back to back weeks. And 124 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: I watched this team and I think this is Gruden's vision. 125 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: He he is loving this. If nothing else, he has 126 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: a way of running an offense that's very different than 127 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: the rest of the NFL. It's very heavy, it's very 128 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: slow moving. It's long drives, it's forty five tight ends, 129 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: including Jason Witten, it's fullbacks. And in back to back 130 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: weeks against these defenses who have kind of built themselves, 131 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: the Saints included to stop the pass. They've got five 132 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: or six defensive backs. They have worn out defenses by 133 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: the end of these two games. And when they were 134 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: at their best last year, that that's the kind of 135 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: offense they were playing there. They are a very good 136 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: offensive team with a good offensive line. If they get 137 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 1: their defense together at some point, then you start thinking 138 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: about them as even a little more dangerous. Well, I 139 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: don't think their defense would be the same if Jonathan 140 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: Abram misses any time. One thing about the Raiders its 141 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs two weeks in a row. Is that guy, 142 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: and I just think that he is like a John 143 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: Gruden dream. I get why John Gruden pointed out the 144 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: Walter Peyton comparison. It's not that they look the same 145 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: on the field, but then at the end of the game, 146 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: when you see Josh Jacobs strutting up the sideline with 147 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: that smile on his face, I mean, he just wants 148 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: to be part of every play. I think he's completely 149 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: changed as a pass catcher. And they looked really dangerous 150 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: down the stretch. I I was a little annoyed at 151 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders out of the gate when they differ and 152 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: allowed the Saints to get the ball first, because like, 153 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: you can't open your stadium with Drew Brees potentially marching 154 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: down the field and having the first trivia question ever 155 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: about that stadium being that, like you know, Alvin Kamara 156 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: scored the first touchdown instead it was Will Lutz. That 157 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: was a little thing that annoyed me with the Raiders, man, 158 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: you could feel them at the middle like that when 159 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: they picked off Breeze. We get into Breeze in a 160 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: second in and Drew Brees like interception. You could feel 161 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 1: that game turning. And the Raiders are one of these 162 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: teams that if they can continue to get performances like that, 163 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: they are right in the mix for the six or 164 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: seventh playoff spot. I released the latest Power rankings this 165 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: morning had the Raiders at fifteen, which means I don't 166 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: really know what to do with them. I don't. I 167 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: don't know if I see them as really a top 168 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: team in the a f C. I don't think so. 169 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: But I also they're frisky and they're a team that 170 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: seems to be coming together. I liked it you said, 171 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: Greg about their offense, how it just feels different. You 172 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: kept especially early on, there was an especially bad series 173 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: where car was holding the ball too long, He missed 174 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: the he missed the receiver down field, he took a 175 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: couple of coverage sacks, and it was just like, ah, well, 176 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: they just make something a little bit more exciting. But 177 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: then you look up and they have thirty four points 178 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: and score on six of their final seven possessions, and 179 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: Darren Waller man, I mean, here's we don't And I 180 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: include myself in this, even though you may not believe it. 181 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: I don't respect anyone's opinion more than Bill Belichick when 182 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: it comes to assessing talent in our league, and he 183 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: said this today during his availability. It's been a long 184 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: time since we've seen a guy like this, and I 185 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: would assume he's referring to Darren Waller's insane athleticism. Uh, 186 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: speed that no linebacker can cover, no safety can cover. 187 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: And to me, he jumped out as the guy. He's 188 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: not Antonio Brown. They're different players, different positions. But what 189 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 1: John Gruden and Mike Mayock wanted from Antonio Brown, which 190 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: is skuy. That's a night nightmare matchup that dictates how 191 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: the defense has to play and get them out of 192 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: their comfort zone. That's what he did to the Saints 193 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: on Monday night. Hm. He uh, he's just faster Waller. 194 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: Is that than like the competition and they need speed. 195 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean they have speed, that's what they're just. They're 196 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: just coming together because we really haven't seen Henry Ruggs 197 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: do his thing. Brian. You know, Brian Edwards made a 198 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: few plays. He he forced a penalty last night. Um, 199 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: but there are pieces there. I do think this is 200 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: a top ten offense. I I thought so coming into 201 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: the year. I think it's gonna be that way. You know, 202 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: car can can make even pretty um laid back guys 203 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: go a little crazy. I was listening to the Westwood 204 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: One called By the Way, Kurt Warner and Kevin Harland. 205 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of great TV crews, but 206 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: I think that's the number one game crew in the 207 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: business right now. They just happened to be They just 208 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: happened to be on the radio. They're so good. And 209 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: Warner was going crazy of the thrower's cars weren't making. 210 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: Car wasn't making. But by the end of the game 211 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: he was like, you know what, I'm I'm pretty caught 212 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: hard on Derek Carr. And you know, Derek Carr would 213 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: certainly have blocked Kurt Warner if he was listening to 214 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: on the radio. But he's like, you got to admit, 215 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: you know, by the end of the game, you look 216 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: at what they've done, and that's the offense that Grudden 217 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 1: wants to run. It's not that different than the offense 218 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: the old Raiders and the Buccaneers used to run. Too. 219 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: It's not super entertaining all the time, but right now, 220 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: and especially in today's NFL, I think it's I think 221 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: it's tough to prepare for them because they are so 222 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: different and they are so physical compared to other teams 223 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: in the Saints defense. I was big on this secondary, 224 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: big on this defense, and they pretty much got wiped off. Collee, 225 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: and I want to tee you up on this. The 226 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: Saints have a lot to clean up over a hundred 227 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: yards and penalties for the second straight week. But you've 228 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: got a feeling Sean Payton, the talent there, the track record, 229 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: they'll they'll get on a on the same page eventually. 230 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: Do you think it's time to sound the alarms on 231 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: Drew Brees who was uncharacteristically erratic with his accuracy yesterday 232 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: on top of the week one game where you couldn't 233 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: really move the ball. It's definitely too bad back to 234 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: back weeks for Drew Brees. But I think this week 235 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: them not having Michael Thomas out there, I mean Alvin Camara. 236 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: He still looked good, but obviously they need more than 237 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: just him. It can't just be the Alvin Camara show 238 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: out there. So Drew Brees, I think, yeah, you have 239 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: to be a little concerned at this point that we're 240 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: not seeing what we should be seeing out of him, 241 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: because it was like Derek Carr put up the numbers 242 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: that Drew Brees should have last night. I mean, it's 243 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: another game where you know, you look at Breeze, his 244 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: average depth of target is just over five yards. The 245 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: vast majority and this was obviously true with Michael Thomas, 246 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: to the vast majority of yardage that he's gaining is 247 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: coming after the catch. It's a different type of quarterback 248 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: that they have to play around, you know, like Luke 249 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: are my son. It became a Saints fan a year ago, 250 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 1: and my concern was like, well, you kind of jumped 251 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: on this one a little late in the game. Had 252 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: you been born earlier, that might have been more profitable 253 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:51,319 Speaker 1: for you. But he asked last night, like, why is 254 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: Drew Brees look so sad? And I thought, like, on 255 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: a micro right, Like on a micro level, it's because 256 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: you're losing to the Raiders on Monday Night football and 257 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: you're frustrated, But like on a macro level, like there 258 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: was something in the eyes of Breeze that kind of 259 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: threw me down the stretch, Like you can kind of 260 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: get in the eyes. Well, you've seen this with Peyton 261 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: Manning to like in that last year, and you know, 262 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: first of all, small sample size, let's see what happens 263 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: with Drew Brees. But they are concerning distressing signals out there, 264 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: we're seeing it on the field. And I thought that 265 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: there was a look in the eyes of Drew Brees 266 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: last night that's sort of new. Something's changed here. Um, 267 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: it's not the end, but something's changed. And he maybe 268 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: shares a little bit of the concern that we share 269 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: because he thought you did, and he was just by 270 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: looking at his face. It makes me think about retirement. 271 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: Remember he almost considered retirement. And players always say like, 272 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: once you think about it, you're already You're already there. 273 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: What did you see, Colleen last night? No, I just 274 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: the same thing that Sessler did. There was one shot 275 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: in particular of Drew Brees's face that he just you 276 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: could see it was written all over his face. It 277 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: was just pure dejection. I guess like he looked so 278 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: sad in the moment. Time for that Viking funeral. Just 279 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: put him on the wooden raft now and push him 280 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: out into the Gulf of Mexico. Start firing those arrows 281 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: that they've got. They've got Jamis Winston sitting there. I 282 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: love I love Patrick's tweet where he said, we're like 283 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: four weeks away from breeze coming down with a mysterious 284 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: injury and Winston getting a little bit of a test drive. 285 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: I think something, I mean, listen, that would be wild 286 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: and I think our boy Dad boy Wolf the number 287 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: one Saints van on Twitter, uh pointed out that Winston 288 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: had a killer training camp, and and you know we 289 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: also have, of course Taysom Taysom Hill, the twenty one 290 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: million dollar man who really has not been involved with 291 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: the offense too much through two weeks. Sean Payton is 292 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: a guy that is if if they continue to struggle, 293 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: you imagine it's gonna be hard for him not to 294 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: think about mixing things up or perhaps making a big change. 295 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: But it still thinks it still feels a little premature, 296 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: especially with Michael Thomas out. Emmanuel Sanders had had a 297 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: bad game yesterday. He's aviously not take wine. Smith is 298 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: their number one receiver a little um, so, a lot 299 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: of the States have a lot of work to do, 300 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: both in strategy and play and discipline. Uh. And now 301 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: they got the Packers, so that's gonna be a game 302 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: to look forward to. Colleen, Wait, quick question, um, what 303 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: were your thoughts on the yellow ABC sports jackets that 304 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: the guys in the booth were wearing because I love 305 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: them and I think that a ten guys should have 306 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: their own version of it. Well. I like the second 307 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: part of that a lot. I know, I like it. 308 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: The The podcast budget for NFL media is surprisingly uh small, 309 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: so I don't think they're gonna really shell out for 310 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: for jackets. But maybe we could do a dumpster, you know. 311 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: I like. I like the thought. I like the thought, 312 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: and I did like overall Monday Night Football. I thought, 313 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: I really do like Brian Greasy. I know, Greg, you 314 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: had some issues with their their late game calls because 315 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: you're great on a curve with that stuff, but I 316 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: thought Greasy did a nice job. Lewis Riddick. They gotta 317 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: turn of his mic or something. I don't know. I 318 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: think he just needs to he needs to turn up 319 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: his fire. We've seen it on Twitter, and I think 320 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: that literally it is fair to expect reps. I I 321 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: liked the booth um in week two. I will say 322 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: one thing, I don't need Brian Greasy telling me over 323 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: and over like you've got to respect this player. You've 324 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: got to respect the way that he handles. Like that 325 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: part of it, I will decide that he didn't use 326 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: similar language when you confronted him at a bar in 327 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: Denver when he was boozy at age three and the 328 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: future the slate, I've wiped that off the slate. We 329 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: had an encounter that I honestly did to I d Ducks. 330 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: No points from him at this point, I can have 331 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 1: points to my slate. No. No, like I am with 332 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: Dan that I think that he at least greasy is 333 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: kind of he is working hard to fit with Levy 334 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,479 Speaker 1: and working hard to you know, they've worked together, they 335 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: have chemistry, they did college together. I think it was Yeah, 336 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: the game management side was just they were They were 337 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: surprised by the whole decision to um kick the field 338 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: goal at the end, but they didn't even discuss it 339 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 1: until Carlson was like kicking it that. That's one where 340 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: it's just in theory, it's reps. But you know, Tony 341 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: Romo was talking about whether that's happening or not three 342 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: plays before getting from getting ready, you know, talking about 343 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: the strategy. What do you guys think about the Death Star? 344 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: Though I thought it was fat like, there was a 345 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: couple of fascinating things about it, but one of them 346 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: was that Mark Davis is refusing to go to the 347 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: games and because fans aren't allowed, like in solidarity with 348 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: the like that's a basic. Meanwhile, his mom is there 349 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: lighting the torch for his dad in the stadium. That's 350 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: like the culmination of Raiders history. They've never been able 351 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 1: to build their own stadium in the history of the team, 352 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 1: and here they are. But he's like, no, I'm not 353 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: going I'm one of the fans and this is b s. 354 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of like it. Well, also, 355 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: he's he could he could have a smattering of fans 356 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: in there. They opened the bars up in Las Vegas 357 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: at midnight the night before. I mean, they want there 358 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: to be an environment. But Mark Davis, I think, because 359 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: you know, you can't. He can't top Al Davis in 360 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: any category, any category at all, So why not be 361 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm the dude that is so linked with this fan 362 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: base that I'm not going to allow any fans in 363 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: here because I'm not gonna pick the better of you 364 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 1: or the the East or West Coast elite crew of 365 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders. You're gonna come in as a group next year, 366 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna come in with you. I mean, it's 367 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: a bit a bit of posting, but I kind of 368 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: like this is one of one. There is no other 369 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: owner remotely like him. And give Mark Davis this when 370 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: he took over the Reins, and I remember a particularly 371 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: stinging column by Mike Silver, our own Mike Silver, who's 372 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 1: now with Yeah with was then with Yahoo. Uh. That 373 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: made Mark Davis seemed like you would be someone that 374 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: would never be fit to be the leader of a franchise. 375 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 1: But Mark Davis has this team set up in Vegas 376 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: and a beautiful stadium that I think is gonna work. 377 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: I feel like this is this Vegas and I feel 378 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: for the fans in Oakland, of course, but I feel 379 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: like this Vegas Raiders connection is going to be a 380 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 1: waterfall of money and the franch eyes if you if 381 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: you just look at it financially, I would imagine the 382 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: value of that franchise has already doubled since Mark Davis 383 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: became the owner. So maybe Mark Davis, you know, maybe 384 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: he got a pep talk along the way that led 385 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: him down this path, because I think he's been an 386 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: effective owner. I mean, a team going in the right 387 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: direction to that takes so much self control to not 388 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: go to that game. If you're Mark Davis, I I 389 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: can't believe he was able to do that because watching 390 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: it on TV, I wanted to be there. I wanted 391 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: to go. Imagine if we weren't in a pandemic, because 392 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: that would be awesome. But that aside, if if we 393 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 1: were operating under normal circumstances, that place would be the 394 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: biggest party. And we were supposed to be there for 395 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: Thursday night football, which I am doubly upset about because 396 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: come on, like, let's take a group trip to Vegas, 397 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: watch a game and then go out. It sounds so 398 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: much fun. Speak studio B So that's okay, I mean 399 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: I think that's I'm not complaining. I'm not complaining. I'm 400 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: just saying, you, Shay Colleen, when you bring the energy 401 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: because you're all by yourself in that gigantic studio. I 402 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: saw you doing one of the post games. It wasn't Thursday, 403 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: I think it was a Monday night football, and you 404 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 1: were just like hooting and hollering and you were doing 405 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: pumped fist and I was like, that's it. You're you're 406 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: trying to bring your own energy because you're in this cavern. 407 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: That's a that's a professional move right there. Let me 408 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: tell you, it is not an easy thing to do, 409 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 1: but I will continue to do it all season. That's 410 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: why you're like on every list out there in the game. 411 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: When it comes to media personalities. Colleen Wolf we found 412 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: her first, though, don't you. We discovered Colleen, not Philadelphia. 413 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: I owe everything to you guys on one knock, my 414 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: only knock on the Death Star or the Big Owl, 415 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: which has also been called I need real fire for 416 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: that flame. I don't want that that digital. I understand 417 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: you probably can't because the way the place is structured 418 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: and probably healthy, you know, health, build building codes and 419 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But ah, we need the flame man. 420 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, all right, that's Monday Night Football. Uh 421 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: remember Thursday our podcast. We're gonna go through every game 422 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL and we'll get you caught up to 423 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: date on all the uh injuries and news around each team, 424 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 1: So stay tuned for that. But for right now, it 425 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: is time now to give out some pep talks. And 426 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: now these the pep talks that we're gonna give it 427 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 1: just just to get everyone in the right headspace. You 428 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 1: are talking directly to that person, You're gonna have to 429 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: use your imagination and imagine where this is, what the 430 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: setup is, but ultimately the listeners and even the three 431 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: of us who are not yakking uh, just have to 432 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: imagine this to be a one on one, closed doors 433 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: commerce conversation between two people. Um so here comes PEP talks. 434 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: They could be positive for someone that's thriving right now, 435 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: they could be negative for someone that's struggling. It's up 436 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: to the person, and we don't know who. We chose 437 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: each of us college as the guest of honor. Why 438 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: don't you get us going with the first pep Okay, Okay, 439 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: here we go. This one goes out to all the 440 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: healthy a c l s around the league. Come on 441 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: in here, take a knee. Listen. I know this was 442 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: a tough week. It was really scary watching so many 443 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: ligaments tear. I mean ligaments. We all look up to 444 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: ligaments that really have built this league, leaders in this league. 445 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: But maybe maybe that left you feeling a little more 446 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: vulnerable than usual. But now is not the time for fear, 447 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 1: all right, you gotta stay strong. Knees everywhere are counting 448 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: on you. Guys, what our knees Without a c l s, 449 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: they are nothing just a cap and some bones. I 450 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: mean you literally hold everything together and sure, modern medicine 451 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: is a marvel. And finally rewatching all the ship's creeks 452 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,520 Speaker 1: that your legs desire sounds really great. But you've gotta 453 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 1: keep going. We need you to stay positive, we need 454 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: you to stay flexible. So the next time I ask 455 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: what's popping, it better not be you. Wow ended with 456 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: the bang. I love it that. I mean, listen, that 457 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: is a broadcaster right there, Colleen. You said it so well. 458 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: And I'll just just a quick I'm gonna jump piggyback 459 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: on this m c LS p CLS the good fight too. 460 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: There's some sneaky ones out there. We you know, the 461 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton a c l is news that broke since 462 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: we last taped. And suddenly that that Broncos team that 463 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: just started their season seven, you know, seven days ago, 464 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: and it was like, wow, They've got a million exciting 465 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 1: young players and now they all seen or at least 466 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: Lock and Sutton are wiped away. It's rough. How many 467 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: how many uh, how many bottles of brown stuff has 468 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: John Elway put down since Sunday Night? I mean, well, 469 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: the question is the answer is always over under of twelve. 470 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go I'm gonna say I was gonna 471 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: say a couple right before the Blake Bortles. I mean, 472 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: it's like, it's like bordles. It's funny Bill. Bill Barney 473 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,879 Speaker 1: was long He's been a Drew lock Um criticizer, kind 474 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: of like you are maybe a doubter dan Um. And 475 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 1: he thought Locke showed some some young bordles like tendency 476 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 1: where you you look past her and thinks that now 477 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 1: that the actual Bordles is there to possibly replace Jeff 478 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: Drisco is kind of like the dollar store bordles. It's 479 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: just it's just a room full of bordles. We have 480 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: a room called Heroes. John Elwie has a room full 481 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: of bordles. And he could have he could have avoided 482 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,719 Speaker 1: it if he just had a little bit more foresight. 483 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: Greg was your pep talk with Wow, Um, we're only 484 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: gonna do one Huh, I'm gonna I'm gonna do it 485 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: to a guy out in Green Bay and um, his 486 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: name is Jordan's Love and he's sitting there and he's 487 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: probably wondering what what is my place in the world, 488 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: and and I'm there. I'm here to talk to you 489 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: Jordan and say, enjoy the ride. You just watched the 490 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: sixth em in NFL history gain over a thousand yards 491 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: in the first two weeks. That's pretty awesome. Uh, Tim Boyle, 492 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: he's not gonna be there forever. At some point you 493 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: can probably beat out Mr Boyle rise up to number 494 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: two on the Depth start. And more importantly, you have 495 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: a front row seat, um for Aaron Rodgers in a 496 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: vengeance tour that somehow you unwittingly caused. I don't think 497 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: there's any bad feelings. He's been through this before. Um, 498 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: but he's only thirty six years old, So another thing 499 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: to think about. He's only about four years away from 500 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: when Tom Brady won his last m v P. You 501 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 1: can wait that out. Um, who really wants to play 502 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: football anyways? Like there's CTE Okay, there's a c L stuff. 503 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: He's um all sorts of a L stuff right Green 504 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: Bay great karaoke bars. You can't go to him right now, 505 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: but you know you can get to him, Like eventually 506 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna get Green Bay has great karaoke bars. That 507 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: is total news to me. I heard that from Aaron 508 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: Rodgers himself on the Kyle Break, which which was really great. 509 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: Everyone should check out that. Aaron Rodgers interview. But Jordan's Love, Um, hey, 510 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: it could be four or five years. But just look 511 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: at Aaron Rodgers. Look at what happened to him when 512 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: he waited. Look at Jimmy g Yeah that that took 513 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: a while, but eventually he got saved by Kyle Shanahan. 514 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: You will find your time Jordan's Love. Just wait. I 515 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: like you giving a motivational speech to probably one of 516 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: the great motivators out there. I don't know if Aaron 517 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,880 Speaker 1: Rodgers that we're seeing today exists, if he they didn't 518 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: go and you know, annoy Aaron Rodgers, because he certainly 519 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: seems like the type of person that once you annoy him, 520 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: he doesn't just you know, and he's one of these 521 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: Hey let's sleep on it and wake up. You know, 522 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,719 Speaker 1: let's go to bed happy. We never go to bed upset. 523 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: Now he goes to bed upset, and he's gone to 524 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,479 Speaker 1: bed upset. I think about Love from the minute they 525 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: took him, and so Love has done his job of 526 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,199 Speaker 1: playing master motivators. So you know that was fair for 527 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: you to give him a speech and return kind of Really, 528 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: any success that the Packers have is going to be 529 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: because of Jordan's Love. I mean, this is so great. 530 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean Aaron Rodgers and it's all kind of predictable. 531 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: He has the Packers over a barrel and he knows it. 532 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: And I think he's relishing this when he pours his 533 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: what does he say three fingers worth of whiskey himself 534 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: at the end or scotch at the end of another 535 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: successful Sunday. He knows. Not only is he getting his 536 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: reputation back, is one of the best quarterbacks in the 537 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: league the way the season has started, but he's also 538 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: getting vindication, uh, for all that rage he had within 539 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 1: him about the first round pick being a quarterback, because 540 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 1: now the Packers if he keeps us up a an 541 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 1: impossible situation where they'll have to make a decision. Well, 542 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: here's what's possible. Go in some super Bowls and make 543 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: some super Bowls like Tom Brady did at thirty nine. 544 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 1: It's not so bad for the Packer. Is that what 545 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: he needs to do? Though? Because I get the feeling 546 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: if he puts together in all pro season Sandwich prop alert, Uh, 547 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: they will have to keep him on board almost well 548 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: almost definitely have to keep him on on board whether 549 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: or not they they do get to the Super Bowl. 550 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: Because it's very hard to win a Super Bowl. You 551 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: are right, Dan, but I would call this green Like 552 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: for the Green Bay fans, this is their version of 553 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: a problematic quarterback scenario. It's like, what do we do 554 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: Our snarter is playing at an m v P level, 555 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 1: but we have a first round talent sitting behind him. 556 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 1: It's like, why don't you do what you've done the 557 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: last like four hundred and six years in Green Bays? 558 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: Just pass it off from one Hall of Famer to 559 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: the next. You know, it'll be sometime before I like 560 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: lose sleep over. How the Green Bay Packers fan basis, 561 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: really there is one if you're Jordan's Love, the old 562 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: adage stay ready kid, because Aaron Rodgers, for all his greatness, 563 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: isn't a total iron man. He's been injured from time 564 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: to time. And that really is where Jordan's Love will 565 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: likely get his shot. Because it doesn't seem like it's 566 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: going to come out of training camp as up we've 567 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: decided you're the starter and we're trading Aaron Rodgers. It 568 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: might be he's going to get a brief audition to 569 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: really put the thought in that in the minds of 570 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: that front office and U a bearded boy Matt Lafleur. 571 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: All right, um, Mark Setsler, You know, I love to 572 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: be able to motivate and speak words of motivation to 573 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 1: someone that I genuinely like, I love. I may actually 574 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: love this person, and I know I'm not alone in 575 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: this room. Then the person is Anthony Lynn, all right. 576 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: I think Anthony Lynn is one of the more enjoyable 577 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: hard knocks presences that I can remember. And it had 578 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: to do with everything going on this summer on that team, 579 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: but the way he handled it and the more I 580 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: just the more I learned about him, the more I thought, 581 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: I like this guy's old school vibe and he's and 582 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: he's kind of perfect. There's teams out there that need 583 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: the old school dude, Gruden, you can put in that 584 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: group and you can see that it's working. I think 585 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: it can work for Los Angeles too. But there comes 586 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: a time where every coach needs to look inward and 587 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,959 Speaker 1: make a change on how they've viewed the world, probably 588 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: since they were a player. A lot of these coaches 589 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: get their coaching philosophies from the coaches to coach them 590 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,120 Speaker 1: when they were on the field. And I think there's 591 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with Anthony Lynn. Wanting to look around the 592 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: league and say what we're gonna do is we're gonna 593 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: destroy people with the run game. We're gonna run the 594 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: ball a hundred and eight times a week if we 595 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: want to. But here's the problem, Fate. The football gods 596 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: have spoken, They've they've entered the scene. They've they've they're 597 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 1: on stage now they weren't a week ago. Tyrod Taylor, 598 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: who has chosen by the football gods to play this 599 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: role over and over, and we really like Tyrod Taylor. 600 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: The person suddenly in the hospital with a after an 601 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: injection that you can't write this stuff right. So Justin 602 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: Herbert gets on the field. I thought, this is the 603 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: last rookie quarterback I want to see plane right now. 604 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: He doesn't seem ready. Instead, he's totally ready. We all 605 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: saw the game. We saw what they can do. And 606 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn, I love you, but you can't talk about 607 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 1: what the plays that Herbert left on the field, that 608 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: there was more to do, that Tyrod Taylor gives you 609 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: a better chance to win. Tyrod Taylor gives you a 610 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: better chance to score thirteen points. Love him, but you 611 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: have no idea what the ceiling is with Justin Herbert, 612 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: and he can change the team. He can change your career, 613 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn forever. If you simply say, I'm gonna walk 614 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 1: into the future unknown, I don't know what we're gonna do. 615 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna see what happens, but it might be exciting 616 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: and it might flip the switch on a team that 617 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: needs to galvanize hearts in Los Angeles. How do you 618 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: do it? I'm sorry, but you don't do it through 619 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. You do it through Justin Herbert, and you 620 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: do it through going eleven and five and making the 621 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: playoffs with the next great rookie quarterback story. I love it. 622 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: I love it. I'm totally with your market makes me 623 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: think of my favorite song Ricky Hollywood on the New 624 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: t Swift album track one, I'm doing good. I'm on 625 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: some new ship. I've been saying yes instead of no. 626 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: That's what Anthony Lynn has to do. He has to 627 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: change his mindset because he wants to be loyal to 628 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: his guy, because he loves everything about Tyrod Taylor, and 629 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: especially coming off that off season with everything that was 630 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: happening in the world, not just in the NFL, Taylor 631 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: was a rock in that locker room. And there's loyalty there, 632 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: and Lynn is an old school dude. But you just 633 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: gotta say yes, got you gotta say you know what 634 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: I need, like Mark said, to open up my chance 635 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: of being more successful. And Tyrod Taylor is just he 636 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: is a progress stopper. To use the old parcels um 637 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: in that room, I don't know, Colleen, if if we 638 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: could just assume Justin Herbert's going to be a three 639 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: yard passer every game and he's locked and loaded. I'm 640 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: sure once teams have taped to study on him, and 641 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna have some really bad games too, and maybe 642 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: he'll be so bad that they have to go back 643 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: to Tyrod Teller. That's not out of the range of 644 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 1: outcomes on this, but for right now, it's like this 645 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,520 Speaker 1: makes too much sense not to follow this path. No, 646 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: especially the fact that if it's true that he just 647 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: found out that he was going to start like moments 648 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: before the game, right during the pregame. I mean, this 649 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: was a surprise for him, This was a surprise for 650 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: the defense, and I think that's why he ended up 651 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: playing so well too, because yeah, they didn't have any 652 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: tape on him, they weren't expecting him at all. But 653 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: I just feel so awful for Tyrod Tailor. I thought 654 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: for sure that this was gonna be the year for him. 655 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: He he gets got every single place that he is 656 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: that I mean, whether it's in Buffalo. I was at 657 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: that TNF game for the Browns against the Jets when 658 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield made his debut because Tyrod got her. And 659 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: now this time, I mean, you think about the freak 660 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: nature of it, about having an adverse reaction to the 661 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: shot that he got. I mean, this is something that 662 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: just feels like it's a dark cloud that has followed 663 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 1: Tyrod around his entire career and justin Herbert could not 664 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: have looked better. Well, we'll find out Sunday. I mean, 665 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: I I do before I judge Anthony Lynn too harshly 666 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: about this, I want to see what he actually does 667 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,399 Speaker 1: with his actions, not his words. Not that he isn't 668 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: always a straight shooter, um, but he made it clear 669 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is their starter as long as he's a 670 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: hundred percent. It's like who's up, Well, who's a hundred percent? 671 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: So does that give him some wiggle room to see 672 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: what Herbert looks like this week and then truly make 673 00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: the decision after that. I don't know. I um, I 674 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 1: feel for him. I wish I had a drink. You know, 675 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: we could play an a t and drinking game. I 676 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: wish I had a drink for every time Mark Um 677 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: said we respect Tyrod as a person before completely burying him, 678 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: because I would have had a drink. I would have 679 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: had a drink for every show going back to about 680 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: like mid August. But Lynn was pretty aggressive, just saying like, 681 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: we you know, in case I missed it, we lost 682 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: the damn game and pointing out all the Herbert mistakes 683 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: in that game, which is which was an interesting tact. 684 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: He's definitely going with some some tough love there, but 685 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 1: you get the sense he has one message for the media, 686 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: and I think he's probably a little different behind closed doors. 687 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: With real quick on why I feel that way about 688 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor because I actually kind of liked him when 689 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: he was the Bill's quarterback, and I liked the idea 690 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: of what I think he was back when that was 691 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 1: like five years ago. But what I know about Tyrod 692 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:56,760 Speaker 1: Taylor is liking him on two, like on nine episodes 693 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: of Hard Knocks, you know, where you're getting to know 694 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: the person and it's not true of a lot. I 695 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: don't know the person for a lot of these other guys. 696 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: But so I say that, But then I do have 697 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: to follow it up with the fact that, like I 698 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 1: think that as a society we get over the idea 699 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: of of Tyrod Taylor being benched probably about fourteen hours. Now, Yes, 700 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: I'd feel bad for him, but like, this is football, 701 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: and suddenly, if the Chargers have like a high ceiling 702 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 1: interesting rookie quarterback, like, people aren't gonna be not showing 703 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,240 Speaker 1: up to Chargers games or turning them on because Tyrod 704 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: Taylor is not starting. And you know, like I remember 705 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 1: Prison Mike on the office, like Tyler, Tyrod Taylor's like, 706 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: you've got a good life. If Tyrod Taylor gets benched, 707 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: he's still you know, things are okay. He's gonna be 708 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: a backup quarterback for the next seven years, and he's 709 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: a great one. Like even if he doesn't get starting jobs, 710 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: he's gonna be getting checks for a long I like 711 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: Mark that you because you're the master of just throwing 712 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 1: random numbers out there. You said you like Tyrod Taylor 713 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: in nine episodes of Hard Knocks. He was actually in 714 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 1: ten episodes between the Browns and the Chargers. I want 715 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: to know if you hated him in the other episode. No, no, 716 00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be completely transparent. I ghosted the last episode 717 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 1: out of Chargers Rams because life was getting too hot. 718 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: And it's like, I'll watched this and then suddenly week 719 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: one happened. It's like, when week one happens, Hard Knocks 720 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: feels like it's from ancient Egypt. It literally has no relevance. 721 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: So I it's gone. You know, I could give you, 722 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 1: I could give you like a real like data point 723 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: to back that up. That writing the Hard Knocks reviews 724 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: for NFL dot com, my mentions on the show for 725 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: episodes one and two are up here. And then by 726 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: the time I post that last episode that airs Tuesday, 727 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: two days before week one, nobody cares. It's actually I 728 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 1: would imagine it's a frustration for the Hard Knocks producers 729 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: because they put a lot of effort into sticking the 730 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: landing in the best episode's tying it all together. But 731 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,319 Speaker 1: it's almost like by episode five, it's already served its 732 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: purpose and the world moves on. But you know, again, 733 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: let's not play too many violins there either. It's my 734 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: show everybody's employed there, like hbos next, like smoking cigars, 735 00:37:55,719 --> 00:38:00,200 Speaker 1: making seven thousand Emmy Awards. I will say, though, from 736 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: watching Hard Knocks, I was kind of surprised the way 737 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: that Justin Herbert came out, because look, I know that 738 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: he is obviously a really good quarterback, but just from 739 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 1: watching Hard Knocks, I was like, Oh, he's really quiet, 740 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: he's kind of humble, he's like a little soft spoken. 741 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: I just didn't expect that play to match his personality, 742 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 1: but it clearly does. I'm also surprised, like he's halfway 743 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: to a medical degree and wants to be a doctor 744 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: after he's done playing, and like he won the National 745 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: Heisman Academic Award for the entire country as like the 746 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: best student athlete. Greg, what did you just say? What earlier? 747 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: He said, once a guy thinks about retirement, it's already over. 748 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: What about that? There you go, it's time to hang 749 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: him up, all right? My pep talk will be It's 750 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: gonna be a circle back to Derek Carr, quarterback of 751 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: the undefeated Las Vegas Raiders. Before the season, you may remember, 752 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: Car said he was sick of people not giving him respect. Okay, 753 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 1: so Derek, um, you know, after Monday Night's win, he 754 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 1: talked about your arrival in Vegas and how Tom Brady 755 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: was the guy that was getting some love. In fact, 756 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: let's listen to what Derek had to say, Uh in 757 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: his postgame thoughts. A lot of people didn't believe it. 758 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: When the first day I moved here, Tom Brady was 759 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 1: on the front cover of the newspaper. You know what 760 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying, And uh, it just adds a little feel 761 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 1: to the fire when you can still be here and 762 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: accomplish things that means so much to you. Okay, So Derek, 763 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: you know they're never gonna believe in your kid Yea, 764 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: you lived your whole childhood. Actually, Ricky, can we get 765 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 1: some explosions in the sky like Friday Night Lights music, 766 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: but not explosions of this guy because we don't have 767 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: the clearance kind of likable explosions of this guy. Okay, 768 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: We're covered Mark Brady's like, um, must double check. We'll 769 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: get an email about that comment. You lived your childhood 770 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: and adolescence as a little brother, and now they capital 771 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: t want to keep you in that box. But you're 772 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: not you nobody's little brother anymore here in our league. 773 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: You're a man, is what you are, A big, bright, 774 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: shining star. Maybe not a star. Maybe maybe you'll never 775 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: be Mahomes or Lamar or DeShawn or Mr Alammanid. But 776 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 1: you're Derek, your Derek. Repeat after me. I am Derek. 777 00:40:48,480 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: I am Derek. I am Derek, Derek Derek. Are we 778 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: supposed to be playing along? Are we supposed to be? 779 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:07,799 Speaker 1: Derek here? You can't make them love you, but they 780 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,760 Speaker 1: can't hurt you. In the words of the great Chuck Bagano, 781 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: they can fire you, they can't eat you. Just keep 782 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: doing what you're doing and they won't be able to 783 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 1: deny you either. Wow. Powerful, I mean that. I know 784 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: Derek Carr is not a superstar. You know I've been 785 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,919 Speaker 1: pounding this drum for a few years on this podcast. Mark, 786 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: you made a good point on text. They can't even 787 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: really refute it that I believe you said. It was 788 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: sometimes the quarterbacks about what's in your heart. And Derek Carr, 789 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,880 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, he just doesn't light a fire. But 790 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: I think he's just so much better than he gets 791 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: credit for, and it's become one of those things. He's 792 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: kind of got a little bit of the Andy Dalton 793 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: thing going on, where people almost don't want to see 794 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,680 Speaker 1: him succeed because they like keeping him in that box 795 00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: that he's just this middle of the road guy. But 796 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: I think with the right surroundings, the right coaching, the 797 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: right pieces around him, he's a guy that absolutely can 798 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 1: take a team into a deep playoff run and they 799 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: are on the right path right now. I think you 800 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: picked the perfect um candidate for like a deep sports 801 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 1: psychology pep talk because I agree with much of what 802 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,320 Speaker 1: you're saying. I think when you see like the best 803 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: of Derek Carr, that's when all these Raiders fans that 804 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: have been, you know, maybe for better or worse, you know, 805 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: backing him no matter what UM come at you saying 806 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: this is what he is, this is what he is. 807 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: By one thing, I feel like in life, whenever you 808 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 1: kind of start losing an argument and and I you know, 809 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: I can think of times when I've in this in 810 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: this house, I've sort of said, like, you know, I 811 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: should be respected more. I should be respecting more. You 812 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: need to be you know, giving me more respect. It's like, well, 813 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: you've lost your argument if you need to voice that. 814 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: And there's too many instances with Derek Carr where like 815 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: you're telling us that you don't that you need to 816 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: be respected more. But all you need to do is 817 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 1: why is Tom Brady on the cover of a newspaper. 818 00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,279 Speaker 1: Because he doesn't walk around saying I need to be 819 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: respected more. He says, everyone thinks I'm done. I'm gonna 820 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: go win another super Bowl and then I'm gonna go 821 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: down and to Tampa Bay when they think I'm done, 822 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: and we'll see what he does there. Derek Carr, you 823 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,560 Speaker 1: you're a good quarterback, like just go win games and 824 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: don't have us pointing to Raiders teams that fade down 825 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 1: the stretch because you aren't aggressive enough, X, Y and Z. 826 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,000 Speaker 1: People want to root for players that want to root 827 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: for themselves. I don't want to hear anything more about 828 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: the respect and all that business. Respect comes through what 829 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:28,280 Speaker 1: you do. Now. He gave that PEP talk to Derek 830 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: Carr after the first quarter. That's what happened last night. 831 00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: It took a little it took a little while warm up, 832 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: but once he did that, that offense was tough to stop. 833 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: I'm thankful um the PEP docs over. I haven't felt 834 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,680 Speaker 1: that uncomfortable at points since Derek Carr was was on 835 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: our show and by the way it was. It was 836 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: it was on the cover of the paper, because you know, 837 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:55,440 Speaker 1: the disrespect is coming from inside the building. Mark Davis 838 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: is the one who literally on record said he wanted 839 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, so that that is the disrespect. That is 840 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: the person who built the stadium and then had Derek 841 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: Carr at the unveiling of the stadium at the very 842 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: same time that they were talking about bringing in Tom Brady. 843 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: So you don't blame Derek Carr for taking that a 844 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,360 Speaker 1: little personally when that's your boss, um. But sometimes he 845 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,640 Speaker 1: he puts it on the media, um, and it's I 846 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: think it's been his coaches and his GM and his 847 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,719 Speaker 1: ownership which is fueled fueled some of this disrespect. He 848 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: can't control that, you know. I guess that's what I 849 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: was getting out with the pep talk. Can't control any 850 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: of that stuff, of all the doubters, even if they 851 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 1: are coming from the top of the ownership group in 852 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 1: his own team. But if he plays well, maybe things 853 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: will straight themselves out and he'll get what he wants 854 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: in the end, which is r S BUC t Okay, 855 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 1: good pep talks. Guys enjoyed it fun. Let's now spin forward. 856 00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 1: To Thursday night football. In another world, Colleen would be 857 00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: hopping on her private jet tomorrow or it's tonight and 858 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: heading to beautiful Jacksonville, Florida, Duval County, um landing on 859 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 1: a runway that was made especially for herds. It's a 860 00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: red carpet runway. But instead you will be in a 861 00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: studio one at NFL Network headquarters in Culiar City. Yeah, 862 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,239 Speaker 1: just as good. Listen, it's good to have a job 863 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 1: right now. Dolphins at Jaguars. Dolphins, oh and two Jaguars 864 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: one in one. Uh with in all seriousnes, Colleen does 865 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: great work in terms of her research and she knows 866 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: her stuff. So Colleen, I'm sure you've been studying these teams. 867 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 1: What are some kind of early thoughts you have? Will 868 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: start with the Jaguars alright, So obviously Gardner Minshew here, 869 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 1: outside of those two interceptions that he had last week, Minshew, 870 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: he looked pretty good. Three touchdowns, He spread the ball 871 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: around to eight different receivers. So this has been a 872 00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: really good first two weeks for him. And now this 873 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: week going up against the Dolphins secondary that probably won't 874 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,360 Speaker 1: have Byron Jones because of that achilles and growing injury. 875 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: It's a short week, I wouldn't expect him to be 876 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 1: out there, and you saw how much that affected the game. 877 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: They lost Byron Jones on the first series last week, 878 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:14,919 Speaker 1: so not having him out there is going to be 879 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: a big, big deal. I also really like on the 880 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 1: side of the Jags, they're undrafted rookie, they're running back 881 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: James Robinson. He looked really good in that game, sixteen 882 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,960 Speaker 1: for one or two and the touchdown, So they're like 883 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd or Leonard Fournette. No problem by but I 884 00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:33,479 Speaker 1: think that listen, the Jags run defense. They were able 885 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 1: to sort of limit Derrick Henry too. I mean twenty 886 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: five carries eighty four yards, so they did a pretty 887 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 1: good job. And then yeah, I mean on the on 888 00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 1: the Dolphins side of things, right if Fitzpatrick, I mean, 889 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,280 Speaker 1: he looked better last week, but the Bills were also 890 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: missing two of their top linebackers. Um, so obviously he's 891 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 1: gonna have to He'll be able to find some good 892 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: matchups in that Jags secondary. But Mike get Sick he 893 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: is the guy that I'm looking forward to seeing. He 894 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,719 Speaker 1: had a huge game against Buffalo eight for one thirty. 895 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,160 Speaker 1: He has six touchdowns in his last eight games, so 896 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: those are just add him to the freedom from Adam 897 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: Gaze list. Yes, exactly. Also, I'm thinking about wearing a 898 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,920 Speaker 1: python jacket because it's an all Florida edition for TNF, 899 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: so some type of like animal print. I'm looking forward 900 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: to that as well. Mark you are. I thought when 901 00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 1: you said you were actually in love with the person 902 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,040 Speaker 1: for the pet talk, you were going down Minshew Alley, Uh, 903 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 1: this has been something you've You've been excited about him forever. 904 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: I'm sure you are clicking your heels watching film of 905 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:42,839 Speaker 1: me and show right now meet you. Yeah. I don't 906 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: know about the Chris Berman version of the name, but um, 907 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, I see a starter like I I feel 908 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: like Minshew is. Probably he was helped last year by 909 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,800 Speaker 1: becoming a sensation because of his um, you know, mullet 910 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: and the mustache and like the you know, prancing around 911 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: in a shirt business. But what there we go. I 912 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: don't I feel like he did it once. I didn't 913 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: know if we needed it week after week. He did 914 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: that four or five times last night too. It's like 915 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,080 Speaker 1: we get it. Um, nice joke, but I didn't need it. 916 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: I meant you to me as a starting quarterback. Who 917 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,000 Speaker 1: um probably is not getting I'm just gonna ignore to 918 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: this point, is not going to get the credit he 919 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: deserves for the work he puts in. And it's even 920 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: on this show. It's just right here. It's happening because 921 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: there is this reluctance to accept that Gardner Minshew has 922 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: outplayed Baker Mayfield, Sam Donald and not Josh Allen at 923 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,440 Speaker 1: this point, but a bunch of other quarterbacks that are 924 00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 1: gonna get a lot of rope, a lot of rope 925 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 1: because of where they were drafted, and everyone wants Minshew 926 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 1: out of the picture. And they don't have a quarterback 927 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: problem right now. And the one thing in Colleen, I 928 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: love that you mentioned Jones being out because his phil 929 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 1: and Noah big Bnigni, a rookie, came in and Brian 930 00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: Dable wisely targeted that safety eleven times for a hundred 931 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,239 Speaker 1: and forty five yards and two touchdowns. And you are 932 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:09,319 Speaker 1: playing another aggressive, aggressive passing game with the Jaguars. I 933 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 1: love Minshew taking some shots in this game. The interceptions 934 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 1: were not flagrant, idiot pros. There was one overthrow that 935 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: got tipped that was the first one that receiver. I'm 936 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: just saying he's not throwing. He's not you can't point 937 00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: like the interceptions or interceptions, but they are not Minshew 938 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,720 Speaker 1: not seeing the field. I think he sees the field 939 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 1: really well and with his legs. There are five or 940 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,160 Speaker 1: six plays a game where he creates something out of 941 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: nothing but then continues to look at the field. So 942 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: I am arrow up on this guy. And it's not 943 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 1: because of the persona, it's because of the player. Well, yeah, 944 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: he's making the second year leap, like Kyler is. I mean, 945 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: I think you're losing the doubters on this show, maybe 946 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: Dan a little bit. But I I spent I mean 947 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: I mostly state you did, didn't you did? And I 948 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: spent all of Sunday show saying I love what I've 949 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: seen out of him. I think he's a different quarterback now. 950 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:01,840 Speaker 1: I think these two games he has been like a 951 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: top ten quarterback to start the season, not just a 952 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 1: decent starter. And it's fair to say, Greg, just to 953 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,799 Speaker 1: jump for one second, that what we're seeing now, and 954 00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,359 Speaker 1: you already kind of made the point that he's made 955 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 1: the league. That wasn't what he was last he was 956 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: at times he was a ton of feelings about him 957 00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: was that he was a bit of a media creation 958 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: that was a little hot and cold as a quarterback 959 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: and not necessarily a guy to be like, oh yeah, 960 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,319 Speaker 1: he's the guy that should be starting sixteen games. I 961 00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: don't feel the same way through two games so far 962 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: this year. He's just one thing that was different. I 963 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: hear you, Danny a couple of bad quarters and games 964 00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: last year and on a bad, bad offense where Nick 965 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,319 Speaker 1: Foles also completely was flummixed. But minshew, what he's showing 966 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: this year. He showed he showed this last year, just 967 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: not understandably, not consistently. But there's nothing that he's just 968 00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,000 Speaker 1: doing now that he wasn't doing a year ago. It's 969 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,440 Speaker 1: it's from wire to wire in these two games. He 970 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: showed flashes early when he came back in for falls. 971 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: At the end of the year, he looked like a 972 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: rookie uh the last five six games of the year. 973 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 1: But Jay Gruden such a perfect combination room. Eight guys 974 00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: on their team caught three passes last week, so it's 975 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,000 Speaker 1: they have a lot of guys. Channa, the way nat 976 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: moves is really exciting. The way James Robinson moves. We 977 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 1: know Chark is a big time player. Like they're getting 978 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,440 Speaker 1: calmly involved, they can spread around. To me, these two 979 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 1: teams are very different and that their defenses are probably 980 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,360 Speaker 1: gonna be garbage this season, like a bottom six or 981 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: seven defense. I don't think there's gonna be a lot 982 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: of stops. Neither team has a pass rush. I think 983 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are kind of similar. Actually think Fitzpatrick's played 984 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: fairly well. If you watch how bad his pass protection 985 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: has been the first against even against the Patriots. He's 986 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 1: making tough throws because that's all there is to make, 987 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 1: and he's under pressure. Uh, he just has a lot 988 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,000 Speaker 1: less around him. So in a game that you kind 989 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,879 Speaker 1: of like the offenses better than the defenses, I think, uh. 990 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,359 Speaker 1: I think Gardner's got more help and they get a win. 991 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,160 Speaker 1: The defense of the Dolphins is something to keep an 992 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 1: eye on here because, yes, Byron Jones leaving left a 993 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:52,920 Speaker 1: huge hole in that secondary, and last year was all 994 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,080 Speaker 1: about the big tank with the Dolphins, and the thought was, 995 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 1: you get all these first round picks, you spend all 996 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: this money, Uh, things will be better. But right now 997 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 1: the defense remains, you know, maybe not at the levels 998 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:04,799 Speaker 1: they were at the beginning of lest season, but still 999 00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 1: a major problem. They need to have growth, and that 1000 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,399 Speaker 1: is Brian Flores's land, so he needs to get that 1001 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,719 Speaker 1: in a those affairs in order. They also have a 1002 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,800 Speaker 1: coordinator that was out of the league since two thousand 1003 00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 1: and twelve. I feel like that's a little under the radar. 1004 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,720 Speaker 1: And and and if you look at like the resume 1005 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 1: of his assistance on that offensive side of the ball, 1006 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: you know there's just been They probably have as light 1007 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: chan Gaily. Yes, he has not been in the NFL 1008 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: since two thousand and twelve, going against the guy Gruden 1009 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,360 Speaker 1: who's been there the whole time and as ready, and 1010 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: if you look at kind of the resumes of all 1011 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 1: his offensive assistance, it's it's not a lot of guys 1012 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: that are gonna bowl you over with track records of success. 1013 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 1: And so without an off season you're coming back into 1014 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: the It's just a lot to ask for this Dolphins team. 1015 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: This is set up really well, Mark Uh and Colleen, 1016 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 1: because you want of course you want you want me 1017 00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 1: and you post game Uh for that conversation after he 1018 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: has big day and he's such a he's such a 1019 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:08,439 Speaker 1: charismatic guy that you want that. And I think it's 1020 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 1: all set up there where playing against this Dolphins team, 1021 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,359 Speaker 1: especially with the secondary banged up. I think he's gonna 1022 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: have another nice game and it's gonna be a huge 1023 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,000 Speaker 1: story on Friday, and with you and Mike Larvin and 1024 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: the gang on Thursday Night. Yeah, we we We got 1025 00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 1: to talk to Minshew last year on Thursday Night Football 1026 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 1: and we had his entire family up on the set 1027 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:32,799 Speaker 1: after he got that win. But I think that, yeah, 1028 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 1: it obviously favors I think a little bit the Jags 1029 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,520 Speaker 1: here because of Byron Jones being out, but also the 1030 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: fact that they'll be able to run the ball to 1031 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 1: The Dolphins right now are allowing five yards per carry 1032 00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: through two games. I feel like they really need Kyle 1033 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,000 Speaker 1: van Noy to kind of step up a little bit too. 1034 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,239 Speaker 1: They need everybody to step up. Almost out of six 1035 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,839 Speaker 1: against Josh Allen and it come through hands. That would 1036 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,319 Speaker 1: have changed, That would have changed that game. Yeah, So 1037 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more from him too. You need 1038 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: minshow because he needs make up for Baker's performance in 1039 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 1: the interview last week. Baker's in this like I'm winning 1040 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,359 Speaker 1: in silence. I'm just I'm going out of my way 1041 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: to be boring. I was watching you do the interview 1042 00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: where it's like you guys are trying to pull something 1043 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,720 Speaker 1: from him. You've got Michael Irvin trying to pull something 1044 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,080 Speaker 1: from and he's just going out of it. And it's 1045 00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 1: fine if that's who you really are, Like when you know, 1046 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of a quarterback just flat, when 1047 00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 1: Alex Smith is giving you pretty like blah answer, that's 1048 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: just who Alex Smith is, I think in interviews. But Baker, 1049 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,960 Speaker 1: like you can tell he's trying to muzzle himself, and 1050 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: that's something like Colleen, he was cutting a cake last 1051 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 1: time while talking about Harlow's hide. He has to be 1052 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 1: who he is. We talked about that on the show too, 1053 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: Like you can't because here's here's where, here's where all 1054 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:45,440 Speaker 1: the strategy breaks down. I'm operating in silence, like I'm 1055 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,399 Speaker 1: never gonna speak. But these progressive ads have come back 1056 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: for the second year, and every time one of those 1057 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 1: comes on, I feel like a brick is being dropped 1058 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: to my head from the eighteenth story of a building, 1059 00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: Like why did these come back? It's just it is 1060 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 1: a whole campaign with layered advertising, and you're right, it 1061 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 1: does kind of jump out at you that he's saying 1062 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: he's silent than every commercial break. All you hear is 1063 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking. But you know what, let's not talk about 1064 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: the Browns right now. Let's focus on the Jags and 1065 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,200 Speaker 1: Dolphins and check it out with Colleen Wolf and the 1066 00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: gang on Thursday night. Um, and Colleen, listen, you've said 1067 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 1: it all, and uh, we'd love to have you back 1068 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,200 Speaker 1: anytime we can. You're sitting in the West chair. Uh, 1069 00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 1: it's never the same without West. But when you could 1070 00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 1: like slide in, Colleen like nineteen eight six Bill Walton 1071 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:36,000 Speaker 1: on the Celtics, I mean, you cannot do any better 1072 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,920 Speaker 1: for six men off the bench than Connie Funk. So 1073 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. Well, it was great, as 1074 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 1: it always is great to see you guys. Super fun 1075 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,440 Speaker 1: And maybe next time I'll like hang something on my 1076 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:48,839 Speaker 1: wall behind me. Yeah, let's just put a little bit 1077 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:53,959 Speaker 1: more effort into the background. Colleen and Colleen and uh 1078 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: what's his name? From the Celtics at six. We're in 1079 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 1: a similar frame of mind last night, if you want 1080 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 1: to scan there some different extra very similar extracurricular activities. Absolutely, 1081 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,719 Speaker 1: at times I was enjoying myself and looking back on 1082 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: what I tweeted last night, maybe I should have not 1083 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,320 Speaker 1: been on Twitter. That's all. Nobody's gonna judge you, Connie Fox. 1084 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: Nobody in this room anyway. All right, we're gonna sign 1085 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 1: off with one of our listeners put together a flagship 1086 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 1: show remix from week two. So this is Dan Hansons 1087 00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,880 Speaker 1: signing off for Connie Fox, uh, the Quiet Storm, the 1088 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: Old Boss, and Rick Hollywood from West Hollywood until Thursday. 1089 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,040 Speaker 1: One lollipop for all of them to lick with their tongues. 1090 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,840 Speaker 1: One lollipop for all of them to lick with their tongues. 1091 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 1: One lollipop for all of them to lick with their tongues. 1092 00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 1: One mollipop for all of them to lick with their tongue. 1093 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 1: One mollipop for all of them to lick with the tongue. 1094 00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:01,959 Speaker 1: A good luck with that, all right, let's slow down. 1095 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,920 Speaker 1: Good luck with that, hair like a one mollipop for 1096 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: all of them to lick with their tongues, hair like 1097 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: a carrier pigeon. What one lollipop for all of them 1098 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: to lick with their tongues. Yeah, I mean, if it's 1099 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 1: a roller coaster ride, what