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Speaker 1: Top ten Gooby Woobies Number ten. We got Goopoo Loopoo,

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Speaker 1: he's hella funny. Then we got Stoopo Doopoo. What a

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Speaker 1: his appearance fool you. Then we got TJ. Crean, What

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Speaker 2: And this guy.

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Speaker 3: D Morning, sir, and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, May twenty second, twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty three. Happy Victoria day.

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Speaker 4: Ay.

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Speaker 3: I'm Jay Skeets here in the Classic Factory and alongside

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Speaker 3: me as always tas.

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Speaker 2: Millice podcast This is for you.

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Speaker 3: Next to him, it's the Bearded One, a top shot

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Speaker 3: hot boy, Trey Kirby, Hey yo, and last but not

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Speaker 3: least over Yonder making the Magic happen, Super producer JD.

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Speaker 5: Hello, there is here we are JD.

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Speaker 3: What was that open? Oh? Okay, I didn't know if

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Speaker 3: I was not understanding the references.

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Speaker 6: I guess not just some random ship on a Monday morning.

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Speaker 5: I'll say it was sort of.

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Speaker 3: It was making me anxious the music.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, it's like going backwards.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, shout out to the stream team joining us live

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Speaker 3: right now on YouTube.

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Speaker 5: We love to see it.

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Speaker 3: Hit the like button, subscribe, get your No Dunk's merch

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Speaker 3: over at no dunks dot com. We got a new

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Speaker 3: Is This Good podcast from our guy Mattio along with

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Speaker 3: JD talking to norm Susa from NFL on Fox, a

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Speaker 3: former colleague of ours way back in the day up

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Speaker 3: in the Uh well wait, hold on, did you.

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Speaker 4: Ever work at the Score?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, Wow.

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Speaker 3: After I was singing out loud, I'm like, did he

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Speaker 5: But yes, okay former colleague norm Susa.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, colleague.

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Speaker 3: These guys discuss getting drunk on stage, eating nachos for laughs,

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Speaker 3: using fireworks, indoors, sharing your body count with your partner

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Speaker 3: lot more so. It's quite the topics there that you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a good one, good one. We haven't

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Speaker 6: seen it. We haven't really talked to Marmon in like

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Speaker 3: They're getting drunk on stage. That used to be his

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Speaker 3: old his old show. He didn't tront I saw that

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Speaker 3: one night where he would along with a buddy, drink

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he was drinking tea. Yeah, nachos and drinking tea.

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Speaker 6: He talks about that in the end of the episode.

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Speaker 6: He explains why they stopped doing it, and it's a

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Speaker 7: Deep dive were ranking every one of his career NBA games, okay,

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Speaker 5: The heat Task crushed the Celtics.

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Speaker 3: One oh two. They're up three to oh, one win

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Speaker 2: Who we got it?

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Speaker 3: the story coming around now. He's like, I don't know

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Speaker 3: Jake Cole's like, let me call Miami. Let me talk

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Speaker 3: to Karn Butler. Maybe he get you a tryout. Yeah

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Speaker 3: what and so he's there, scoring eighteen in a Game

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Speaker 3: three has been amazing throughout this series. Yes, they got

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Speaker 5: Nothing, none of a concern in.

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Speaker 3: Game three when you're down thirty in the fourth quarter,

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Speaker 7: That's a great blew it and I mean silver lining

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Speaker 7: so they've won four out of the last eight quarters

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Speaker 7: the first half ended and completely mail in the third quarter,

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Speaker 7: to Bam out of Baio and it looked like Robinson

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Speaker 7: It felt like he was just trying to rub it

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Speaker 7: guess Omer yurt seven now has more fourth quarter baskets

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Speaker 7: That's just been a completely disappointing performance from those two guys,

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Speaker 7: and then.

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Speaker 4: For the rest of the Celtics as well.

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Speaker 7: Ali LaForce had that report in the third quarter that

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Speaker 7: middle of a game, In the middle of a must

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Speaker 7: And Alioforce reports nobody is talking in the huddle. Everybody

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Speaker 7: now the coach of this team. Weird stuff going on

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Speaker 7: for Boston and the fact that they're going to go

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Speaker 7: have to change for the Celtics because this is disappointing

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Speaker 7: everybody that's losing in the playoffs. It's like their worst

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Boston at the start of the second half got

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Speaker 3: They don't take any single playoff. Whatever guy comes in

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Speaker 2: Like I mean, that's that's what Pop did. Mentioning that

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Speaker 2: wild to see, Yeah, Duncan doing what he was doing

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Speaker 7: Really, they had another starter get hurt in this game.

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Speaker 7: Jason Tatum. He's like number one player in a game

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Speaker 3: Tatum six of eighteen, Jalen Brown six of seventeen. So

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Speaker 3: Celtics offseason here? And what is the game plan? Is

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Speaker 3: it as simple as bringing a new coach? See you later,

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Speaker 3: Joe Mizula, Sorry about the extension. Is it this idea

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Speaker 3: of like we're not giving Jalen Brown nearly three hundred

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Speaker 4: Do you have an opin?

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Speaker 2: Well? I will just just on the Kevin Love thing

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Speaker 2: we talked about preseason series, and I think that's definitely

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Speaker 2: one thing you can ridicule Missoula about why not go

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Speaker 2: And that's what the Celtics were lacking in this series.

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Speaker 2: They just were lacking trusting each other. I'm already using

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the glaring difference between the Celtics team of past

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Speaker 3: rely on their defense to at least keep them in games,

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Speaker 7: I feel like it's a fundamental misreading of the identity

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Speaker 7: They had the defensive Player of the year, they had

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Speaker 7: hasn't been the same player defensively this year, didn't finish

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Speaker 2: And that's why the Celtics were so good last year

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Speaker 7: He wasn't quite the same player. Defensively shot the ball

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Speaker 7: So I don't know this same team has been around.

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Speaker 7: It feels like since basically twenty eighteen. That's a long

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Speaker 3: night to Horford as the Heat were running.

438
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,520
Speaker 5: Away in the third quarter.

439
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 3: Last night. This guy doesn't forget a thing. Any thoughts

440
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 3: on Jimmy's exaggerated timeout call to Al Horford right to

441
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 3: his face as he was coming back sort of towards

442
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:39,520
Speaker 3: the bench too.

443
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that was awesome.

444
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 4: That was awesome. We're gonna make a short eventually.

445
00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 7: I can tell already of the best Jimmy Butler trash

446
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 7: talking moments just from this playoffs. I forgot about Al

447
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 7: Horford calling a timeout on the heat, but not Jimmy, Like,

448
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 7: what's the deepest slight he will go to.

449
00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 4: There's got to be some real deep cut he's gonna

450
00:20:59,600 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 4: pull out.

451
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 7: After Game four if they pull off the sweep, somebody

452
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 7: will have said something postgame last year, I'd be like, oh, yeah,

453
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 7: by the way, I printed this and had it framed

454
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 7: and I'm gonna shatter it over my knee something probably.

455
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, And that pissed off Al. He

456
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,719
Speaker 2: took out his mouth guard and put it Where does

457
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 2: he put it? He puts it somewhere, disgusting. I think

458
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 2: it's in his waistband and yelled back at Jimmy. I mean,

459
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: we've seen jim Ey Alhofer get pissed off with Jikupo

460
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 2: in the playoffs before. He's underrated, like trash talk are

461
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,920
Speaker 2: good at jaw jack And I thought the better moment,

462
00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 2: even though that was hilarious, was Jimmy Butler drawing a

463
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,639
Speaker 2: foul on Grant Williams and then pointing at his ass,

464
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 2: like pointing directly to him and you know, mocking him

465
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: because it wasn't a foul. He drew that foul. And

466
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: that's why you can also hate the Miami Heat. I mean,

467
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,640
Speaker 2: they do some flopping that first quarter, Kyle Lowry, Fowls,

468
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: Jalen Brown, they're just they're just smart. Fowlers gets away

469
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:56,639
Speaker 2: with it. You would have got away with a charge

470
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 2: if there wasn't a challenge. And then Jimmy Butler drew

471
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 2: that or foul on Grant Williams. They're tough, but they

472
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: also have that reputation of being tough and they use

473
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,199
Speaker 2: it to their advantage with the referees. And so that

474
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,800
Speaker 2: was that was funny after what happened in Game two

475
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 2: with Grant Williams, who I'm good with what he did.

476
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: You know, looking back at the series, at least at

477
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 2: least there was some physical play by somebody on this team,

478
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: and he had a good game in this one. I mean,

479
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: he was at least showed up while some of the

480
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: other guys did not. He's not the idiot, even though

481
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 2: even though it was a rough, rough game too.

482
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Speaker 3: Do you believe the Celtics can extend the series on

483
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: Tuesday night or is it a is it a rap

484
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 3: after what you saw in Game three here and that

485
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,600
Speaker 3: they will just roll over and die and the Heat

486
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 3: will continue to obviously just the snowball will get bigger

487
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,719
Speaker 3: and bigger in them believing like we're getting our revenge

488
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 3: and we're gonna now sweep their ass.

489
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Speaker 4: Hmmm, interesting, interesting question.

490
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Speaker 7: I do have confidence that the Celtics can win one

491
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 7: game here, that the my Heat maybe gentleman's and let

492
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 7: them win Game four because Jimmy would maybe like to

493
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 7: eliminate them in Boston.

494
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 5: That's how do ballically.

495
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 7: Yes, Boston did it to Miami in Miami last year,

496
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 7: so this is the this is the thing he's been

497
00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 7: holding in his back pocket. You can win game four

498
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,640
Speaker 7: because I would love to have a fifty point closeout

499
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Speaker 7: game in in the garden.

500
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Speaker 3: Take a one step further, maybe Jimmy will allow the

501
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: Celtics to win Games four, five, and six. So he

502
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 3: can get the ultimate revenge winning games making.

503
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 4: He's making the pull up three this time.

504
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's right, all right?

505
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:34,520
Speaker 4: What about you?

506
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: I mean you called it last series when you said

507
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 3: the Sixers last game six, and you said that one

508
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 3: is over, there's no chance of winning now game seven.

509
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 3: What's what task his vibe on this one?

510
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 4: Key?

511
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 2: Oh no, this is over. This is totally over. Heat

512
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,880
Speaker 2: did a good job in round one of the Milwaukee

513
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,439
Speaker 2: Bucks closing it out when they should have. The Knicks

514
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 2: did win one elimination game in round two, but that

515
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 2: was in New York. I wish I saw this guy.

516
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 2: Wish I called the Heat. I didn't call the Heat.

517
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 2: I know you called the Heat and series I they

518
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,119
Speaker 2: have what they had going on from the beginning of

519
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs, from their playing game, and it's rolled and

520
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: so this is this is over. I don't think they

521
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 2: Heat take their foot off the pedals. Doesn't seem like

522
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: that type of team.

523
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: No, No, for sure, there's never been a season where

524
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 3: both conference finals have ended in sweeps. And of course

525
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 3: that's in play. If the Nuggets can close it out

526
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 3: tonight and if the Heat can do that on Tuesday night,

527
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 3: everybody's got the question going around right now, which team

528
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 3: Lakers or Celtics more likely to become the first team

529
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: in NBA history to come back from three to zero.

530
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: You know, you see the poll.

531
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 4: I saw the poll. I saw a poll like that,

532
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 4: and I was thankful.

533
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,359
Speaker 7: That it included four choices both in neither, and I

534
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 7: voted neither, Joe, and it's over.

535
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

536
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 3: The better question is maybe which team Lakers or Celtics

537
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 3: could force a Game five, could extend the series. Neither

538
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 3: of these teams, of course, are winning this damn thing

539
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: and becoming the first team. Would you say it's it's

540
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 3: zero for one forty nine right now for teams.

541
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 5: Down three to zero?

542
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: How many teams have taken it to seven? It's it's

543
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: like four three.

544
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: Three, Okay, yeah, yeah, so even that's.

545
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 4: Very very rare.

546
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 2: That is extremely rare. Three of one hundred. How many

547
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,880
Speaker 2: teams have taken it to five games?

548
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,640
Speaker 3: Well, it's something like two thirds of them have ended

549
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: in a sweep when you're down three to zero. So

550
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: it's a hell of a lot that just end end

551
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 3: in four, which I think a lot of people right

552
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 3: now think is in play for both of these conferences,

553
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 3: this one and the one that We'll get to in

554
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 3: a second when we get over to the West. Any

555
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 3: other thoughts though on on Boston's shitty performance, on the

556
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: Heat continuing to impress and when you like really zoom

557
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,360
Speaker 3: out and go my god. This team got killed by

558
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: the Hawks in the first playing game.

559
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 4: This team was.

560
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: Gonna lose to tray Hervey's Bulls in the second playing game.

561
00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, Zach Amen's usually a no buffs twitter.

562
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 4: I saw.

563
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 7: I was tweeting last night that all of this comes

564
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 7: down to DeMar DeRozan failing to pull his daughter out

565
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 7: of school for the second play in game. She won

566
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 7: the game against the Raptors. It was a close game

567
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 7: in the fourth quarter. Could have used some screaming during

568
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 7: the free throws. Instead, Max Strews caught fire and suddenly

569
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 7: the Miami Heat are going to be in the NBA Finals.

570
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 4: What what?

571
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,880
Speaker 7: We watched a whole regular season for none? This team

572
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 7: is gonna be in the NBA Finals. Great line in the.

573
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 4: And the ap recap.

574
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 7: The Heat encouraged fans to wear white to playoff games,

575
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 7: and Jason Tatum also arrived in an all white suit.

576
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 4: Was he rooting for the Heat?

577
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 7: Ye?

578
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 4: Waite like it?

579
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

580
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 5: He had a bad game.

581
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 3: Oh man, both of those guys, both of their All

582
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: NBA superstars, they picked a wrong game to both be

583
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 3: garbage because they were both terrible. But the ball, it's

584
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: like it's not moving from side to side. It never

585
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: goes inside against the zone, you know, to the paint.

586
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 3: You've got Robert Williams, who should be the perfect guy,

587
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 3: like in the dunker spot against the zone. Like this

588
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 3: is the part where I do go back to Missoula

589
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 3: and then his star is like, what are you like?

590
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: This is wild?

591
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 5: We you saw zone in high school. The signs of

592
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 5: the zone were usually the team's not very good.

593
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 4: Uh.

594
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 3: Defensively they're small, you know, you can exploit it.

595
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 4: Uh.

596
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: And like we used to always say, the zone doesn't

597
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 3: work in the NBA. These guys are too good at shooters,

598
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 3: they're too good at like penetrating. Uh, you can just

599
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 3: like destroy it. But the you know, the way they're

600
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: playing it and the way the Celtics are just like

601
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: they just settle so much. It's like they get the ball,

602
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 3: they look at the zone and they go, oh, well, okay,

603
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: maybe one pass and then somebody shoot a three.

604
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 4: They're like, zone, we gotta shoot threes. To beat it.

605
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 4: I got a three ready for you.

606
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 7: They're shooting twenty nine percent from three this series, forty

607
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 7: seven for the Miami Heat.

608
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. But in respect to the Heat close outs during

609
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 2: every single like they are playing into it into garbage time.

610
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 2: These guys were closing out.

611
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 3: Well, that's the other party where we would always say, Now,

612
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,679
Speaker 3: the zone doesn't really work in the NBA because you

613
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 3: can get a bunch of eighteen year old nineteen year

614
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: old college kids to play their asses off with a

615
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: bark and coach. But at the NBA professional level, guys

616
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: making twenty twenty five million is like, yeah, we'll play

617
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: some zone for a couple of possessions. We're not playing

618
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 3: it all game because.

619
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 5: We got to try Harden zone. But that's what Spolster has.

620
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: These guys do it, and obviously led by Jimmy and

621
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 3: all these guys that just like bust their ass in

622
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: rotating and helping and talking and like like you said,

623
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 3: closing it up. Like anytime Tatum does try and drive

624
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 3: just like just collapses on them. It's pretty impressive. It's

625
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: been sort of fun to watch that. But those are

626
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 3: our first really bad game of the Conference finals.

627
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 7: Yes, in terms of a blowout at least uh Lakers

628
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 7: Nuggets Game three was pretty entertain.

629
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was entertaining. Entertaining, though Denver took care of business,

630
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 3: and we're gonna get to that in a second.

631
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 7: Also, didn't the Heat say that for Tyler Hero to return, Yeah,

632
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 7: it would have to be an NBA Finals appearance. Yeah,

633
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 7: well that was a long time ago there, so it's

634
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 7: getting close, and we all were.

635
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 4: Like, Phill, that's right, Tyler.

636
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, because we didn't think they would be in the

637
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 3: NBA Finals. I was gonna say, if we have, like,

638
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: you know, a week of shows to fill an entire show,

639
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: I was gonna have the question ready to go, should

640
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat bring back Tyler Hero if he's healthy?

641
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 3: Should they task? And we could do forty five minutes

642
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 3: on that.

643
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 7: Well, it's vinteresting because I think Gabe Vinceton has been

644
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 7: great as a starter for the Miami Heat, and I

645
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 7: think the fact that there are no bad defenders playing

646
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 7: for Miami is a big part of the reason they've

647
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 7: put together this streak. You're gonna want Tyler Hero back

648
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 7: on the court in the NBA Finals just because you

649
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 7: want the depth, but you know, forecasting too far ahead

650
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 7: I don't mind gave Vincent sticking in the starting lineup

651
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 7: and guarding Jamal Murray. They're gonna need somebody to do

652
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 7: the ball pressure thing, and it wouldn't be a problem

653
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 7: having Tyler Hero come off the bench.

654
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 4: The guy won six Man of the Year.

655
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 7: He can give you twenty twenty five in a reserve

656
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 7: role as well, getting up to speed. So they might

657
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 7: be getting better somehow and more healthy as the as

658
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 7: the playoffs goes on.

659
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 5: Wild stuff.

660
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, maybe we're looking too off our ahead,

661
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: but you know that'll be a question in the coming days.

662
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 3: Tell a Hero he's healthy, he's ready to go. Should

663
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: he play? That's the big decision from Spolstra. Okay, let's

664
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Speaker 3: take a break. When we come back, we'll get into

665
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: the Western Conference finals and the Game three that we

666
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: saw over the weekend. All right, let's get to the

667
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: Western Conference. The Nuggets are on the brink of the

668
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: NBA Finals. They win Game three one to nineteen, one

669
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 3: to oh eight over the Lakers. It was a little closer,

670
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: maybe than that final score says. It was entertaining. Like

671
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: Trey said earlier, but what do you think from this one?

672
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 2: Well, a totally different game here where Jamal Murray comes

673
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: out scorching hot. He's got thirty in the first half. Wow.

674
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: And then in the third quarter, Darvin Han says, Dennis

675
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 2: Shruder just face guard that guy, dude, the Steph Curry,

676
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 2: just absolutely take him out of the game, and he was.

677
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: He didn't score in the third quarter, and then Jokic

678
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: goes out with seven to twenty four left with his

679
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: fourth foul. In that third quarter, it looks looks bleak

680
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: for the Nuggets. Where are they going to get their

681
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: offense without Murray scoring? Without Jokic on the floor. Aaron

682
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 2: Gordon moved over to center at six to eight, so

683
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 2: you started to think, okay, is this little lebron a

684
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: d time where they're going to take over against the

685
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: guy who's a small forward, power forward playing backup center. Well,

686
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 2: their depth just showed through. You can get to the

687
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: conference finals without your four, five, six, seven eight guys

688
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: playing well, but you ain't get into the finals. This

689
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: is when Bruce Brown started flying around banging home threes

690
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: and getting offensive rebounds, auditioning about to Michael Porter Junior

691
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: who's hitting threes, and then Contavious Caldwell Pope again, Jokic

692
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: out for the last part of the third quarter and

693
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: KCP hitting tough shots. The Lakers were on him. He

694
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 2: hit ridiculously tough shots over Lineie Walker. He had twelve

695
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 2: points in the third quarter just to keep this team afloat,

696
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: and they had the lead going into the fourth quarter.

697
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 2: Although we saw Bron hit his first two threes of

698
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: the series, rattled in and out at the end of

699
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 2: the third quarter, it looked like the Lebron train was

700
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: coming to some degree. But then in the middle of

701
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, these supporting cast players again for the Nuggets,

702
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: came through. Jokic apparently drew up a play and said one, two,

703
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: me and you Murray and then we're gonna We're gonna

704
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 2: find everybody. It was the start of this thirteen oh

705
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 2: run was Jeff Green banging home the three because Anthony

706
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: Davis leaving him to go help on Jokic, and then

707
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 2: Bruce Brown hitting a three, the seventh man and the

708
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 2: sixth man starting that run, and it was over the

709
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: DEPTHO took over astonishing stuff. Without Jokic having a great

710
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: first three quarters, he came on in the fourth.

711
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, fifteen to four.

712
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, then and really yeah, he was quiet looked like

713
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 2: you didn't have it to start this game, but yeah,

714
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: a great response from him to just be steady even

715
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 2: though he was in foul trouble obviously, and took care

716
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 2: of business and just set everything up and apparently was

717
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: the coach. And I got everything going for this Nuggets team.

718
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: What a show. I mean, we got the two best

719
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: teams gonna meet in the finals because obviously got Bruce

720
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: Brown and Jeff Green doing what they did. Even Lebron

721
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: said after the game, even Jeff Green hit a three,

722
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: even that guy, you know, a backhanded dig but his

723
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: former teammate disrespectful, but they left him. And yeah, they

724
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: they're doing you know, some heat like stuff where everybody contributing.

725
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 4: Obviously, what did you see in this game? Three?

726
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 7: Just goes to show you coaching in the NBA is

727
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 7: pretty easy. Nikola Jokic went into the huddle and said,

728
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 7: let's have the two best guys have the ball, and

729
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 7: the coach is like, hey, man, I love your call.

730
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 5: Let's go for it.

731
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 7: But man, the Nuggets are just too good of a team.

732
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 7: They've got a great coach and Mike Malone and they've

733
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 7: got another great coach and Nikola Jokich. The Lakers can

734
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 7: keep one of their stars down for three quarters of

735
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 7: a game and the other stars gonna go off is

736
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 7: basically what.

737
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: It feels like right now.

738
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 7: I kind of thought they were doing a good job

739
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 7: guarding Jokic through three quarters of this one. The ruy

740
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 7: hot Chamura thing was working. We didn't see as much

741
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,440
Speaker 7: Lebron on ad So or on Jokic, so you're thinking

742
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 7: he'll have some legs going into the fourth quarter. But

743
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 7: then Michael Malone finally made the call, Sorry, Aaron Gordon,

744
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 7: you standing around ain't working for us. They're leaving you open.

745
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 7: And he's a much more hesitant shooter than even Jeff

746
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 7: Green is. So when they went to the lineup, that

747
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 7: was Murray Brown, MPJ Jeff Green, and Jokic play making everywhere,

748
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 7: shooting everywhere. They're a lot faster and the Lakers couldn't

749
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 7: make them pay. On the other end, having those guys

750
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 7: out there, Nuggets are just a lot better than the

751
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 7: Lakers are, because as this game went on, you saw

752
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 7: that the Lakers have basically five and a half guys

753
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 7: who can play in this series. The Van Vanderbilt starting

754
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 7: does not help. D'Angelo Russell another terrible game but somehow

755
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 7: those guys still get minutes. They should maybe play like

756
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 7: three or five minutes I think going forward in this

757
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 7: one last game we got here. But other than that,

758
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 7: it's got to be Dennis Shrewder, maybe a little Lonnie

759
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 7: rock Walker than Reeves. Lebron really in ad but it

760
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 7: just feels like the Lakers don't have enough to play

761
00:34:58,800 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 7: with the Nuggets team.

762
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 3: Listen to this, only four Lakers have proven to be

763
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: sort of reliable on both ends. Lebron, Anthony Davis, Reeves,

764
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 3: and Ruey Hachamura. Those four players have combined to score

765
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: just under eighty two percent of all the Lakers points

766
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,479
Speaker 3: in this series. So those four guys been pretty good.

767
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, they are searching desperately for any fifth or

768
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: sixth or seventh player to try and keep up with

769
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 3: this nugget's depth with their starters, their stars, and then

770
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: the compost crew coming off the bench. In watching this

771
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: game too, I know Lebron had a great box score,

772
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 3: like for anyone else, this is awesome, twenty three points,

773
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 3: twelve assists, seven boards, very solid, but he missed eleven

774
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 3: to nineteen shots. He missed four to six in the

775
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 3: fourth quarter, and it is tough not to see this

776
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: game and Lebron in this series and go, have we

777
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 3: officially reached a new sort of phase of his career,

778
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 3: the mortal era for Lebron, where it's he can no

779
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:59,399
Speaker 3: longer just completely take over a game. Lebron of three

780
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: or four years ago, obviously even further ago takes over

781
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 3: this game, like just like he was stretches in the

782
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: fourth quarter outside of yeah, getting finally a couple threes ago,

783
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: like he just was like not involved and couldn't really

784
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: do anything. And maybe it's the lingering foot issue. Maybe

785
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: it's because he had to do too much heavy lifting

786
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: earlier in the season to get this team, you know,

787
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 3: back up the standings into the playoffs. Maybe it's because

788
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: he's played sixty five thousand plus minutes in his NBA

789
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: career when you take into consideration the playoffs.

790
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 4: It's a lot of minutes.

791
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 3: But that's where we that's where we're at now, and

792
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 3: that's I'm not saying like, oh Lebron sucks, Oh my god,

793
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: of course this happens to all of them, but it is, like,

794
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like almost unsettling. It's like it

795
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 3: makes me question my own age where I'm at, because

796
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: it's like, ah, damn, this is not this, ain't this.

797
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: Ain't goat Lebron anymore because he's obviously much much older.

798
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 3: He can do it, probably at times for a game

799
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 3: or two, but not serious. It's over that part of

800
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: Lebron's career.

801
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: You see this ant here on the table. It looks

802
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 2: like a king aunt. It's not dying. I slapped it

803
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: a few times, but it's still got life.

804
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: You see it.

805
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 2: It's still got some life. Lebron.

806
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: Is that aunt Lebron?

807
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: This is yes, exactly, Lebron won't die, but he ain't

808
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: the same. He's still out there. He tried to shoot

809
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: his way back into this game. I mentioned those two

810
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: threes at the end of the third quarter. Those were

811
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: his first threes of the series late in the third

812
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: quarter of Game three, and then he missed that shot

813
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: going into into the third quarter buzzer that would have

814
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: tied the game. But he can't take over it.

815
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: But then that's that's a win for the Nuggets. Every

816
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: time Lebron obviously pulls up and takes a three. The

817
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: way he's been shooting from three, which has been garbage

818
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 3: until he hit a couple finally.

819
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 2: And Aaron Gordon was the guy on the other side

820
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 2: in that third quarter when Yokich went to the bench,

821
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: and this was their time to seize the game. But

822
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: forget about the Lakers. It's the Nuggets just playing amazingly well.

823
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 2: Having the best player in this series. You could argue

824
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: that they have the two best players in this series

825
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 2: over Anthony Davis. Although Anthony Davis's numbers are big because

826
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: of that game one forty point job, he's come back

827
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 2: down to earth. D'Angel Russell. They needed to have a

828
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 2: twenty point game, yeah, and he's had twenty one combined

829
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: through the first three games of this series. Just he

830
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: just needed want just one because you roll with it.

831
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: And we just talked about Tyler Hero not coming back

832
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: that D'Angel Russell as a free agent. You know, Hero's

833
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 2: got a contract. Dames Russell is a free agent this offseason,

834
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: so that's a huge question mark for them. They just

835
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: needed somebody to hit some shots. And that's why Darvin

836
00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 2: ham rolls with them because he's just hoping. He's just

837
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 2: hoping we're gonna get a third quarter three straight threes

838
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: like we've seen the first couple of rounds. Because they

839
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: need somebody, and that's why he's rolling with Loney Walker.

840
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 2: But the other team is just on freakin' fire. You

841
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 2: get you get games like what I mentioned kcp's twelve

842
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: points in that third quarter. Dude had twenty one in

843
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: Game one, seventeen in Game three. That's phenomenal stuff from

844
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: a supporting guy like that. So they're just getting it

845
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: from everywhere.

846
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 3: People are already wondering was this the greatest Nuggets win

847
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 3: in franchise history. I already had done my list, and

848
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: then I heard Bill Simmons also do it this morning.

849
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna do it anyway because I think it is.

850
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: Because it's a short list. I only have three games

851
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 3: that come to mind when we talk about the Denver

852
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: Nuggets in the NBA and their greatest postseason victories. Game

853
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 3: seven win over the Clippers in the twenty twenty Bubble

854
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: to go to the Western Conference Finals. Jamal Murray had

855
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 3: forty points in that game. Yokich sixteen twenty two and thirteen,

856
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 3: big big win in the Bubble. Captain I went three

857
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: one comeback yes right, Game two win over the Lakers

858
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: in the two thousand and nine Western Conference Finals when

859
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: they were there Mello so suiting that he's so fitting

860
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: that he's actually retired today. But that tied the series

861
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 3: at one one. That was in LA. That's a big

862
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 3: road victory. Mello and Billups combined for sixty one points

863
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: in that game. Clasa, who I think we just saw

864
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 3: at the EuroLeague Final four championship game. He was looking great,

865
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 3: by the way, hasn't aged at all. He hit four

866
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 3: threes off the bench. He was a plus sixteen in

867
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 3: that Game two victory in the Western Conference Finals. He

868
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 3: was huge in that game, and that tied it at

869
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: one to one. Obviously, the Lakers went on to win

870
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 3: and went to the title. And then Game five of

871
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 3: the ninety four first round series versus the Sonics, first

872
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: time we ever had an eighth seed knockoff and number

873
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 3: one seed. The iconic Matumbo shot where he's got the

874
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 3: ball on the ground. Robert Packed the hero in that game,

875
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 3: twenty three points off the bench. Denver lost the first

876
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: two games that series, won the next three. That's when

877
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 3: it was best of five. Back in ninety four, Sonics

878
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: were a sixty three win team and the Nuggets were

879
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 3: like maybe a sub five hundred team. I think may

880
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: have been forty and forty two. So yeah, those are

881
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 3: the three, like the three, Yeah, unless you can think

882
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 3: of something else.

883
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: I was watching the game on the NBA app yesterday

884
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: and whenever they go to commercial, they basically just show

885
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: big games from the team's franchise history or from particular

886
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 2: player's history, Like after Jamal's Big Game two, they start

887
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: showing every Jamal game and that's how you know the

888
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: franchise is biggest games. They just show you the the

889
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 2: monstrous games and noteworthy games. And they showed Jamal's Game

890
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: seven from the Bubble for sure, of course because he

891
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 2: was scorching it. Yeah, he's got to write that down.

892
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: I'll I'll just watch it tonight. Is that. Yeah, let's

893
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: make a list. Done easy?

894
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 5: Anything else, guys?

895
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, we are good.

896
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 7: Good random moments in this game, including Lebron trucking, Scott

897
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 7: Foster bloodying. Oh yeah, Scott Foster putting his body on

898
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,279
Speaker 7: the line the way the best do in the playoffs.

899
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: Even got a micd up segment with him a.

900
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 7: Little bit later, talking to Lebron, You've been waiting to

901
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 7: do that twenty five years left that I like by

902
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 7: Scott Foster unfortunately, Yeah, Lebron thought he had a dunk. Yeah,

903
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 7: he definitely had a breakout. But Scottie right in the way,

904
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 7: right in the way. I guess he's a Nuggets fan.

905
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 7: Also great, Austin Reeves had another really good game in

906
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 7: this one. What he finished with twenty three points, I

907
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 7: think he was cooking. And Mark Jackson at one point goes.

908
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 5: This just in Austin powers.

909
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 4: That was the whole line from nineteen ninety seven.

910
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 8: Austin Powers powered. Okay, that's a little better, but it's

911
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 8: a little little just in.

912
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was great.

913
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 7: And then Bruce Brown when he hit that huge three

914
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 7: uh in the fourth corner right to the Lakers bench,

915
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 7: hit him with a three freeze celebration.

916
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 4: In their faces.

917
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 7: You're getting celebrated back in this year's playoffs, Bruce Brown

918
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 7: versus Jimmy Butler.

919
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 4: Those guys are going to be john the finals. That'd

920
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: be fun to watch.

921
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 3: We have We've had some Nuggets heat confrontations before too.

922
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: Did we not get the legendary heat photo from these

923
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: two tea They wanted to fight them and they're holding

924
00:42:58,200 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 3: the back in the back.

925
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 7: Yeah's exactly right.

926
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 4: That was a Morris twin got blasted by Jokic. Yeah,

927
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 4: remember yeah, wow.

928
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. And they say ratings are going to

929
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 3: be bad, not on our watch. That's the narrative. We're

930
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 3: rolling with nuggets heat hate each other. Uh yeah, I

931
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: would add the only other random note I did like

932
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 3: when Kitchener's finest Jamal Murray was cooking in the first half.

933
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: Were sort of like glossing over that because he didn't

934
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 3: do a lot in the second half, but thirty points

935
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: after twenty four minutes he had Adele questioning life.

936
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 5: She was like, this is zepic. What am I watching here?

937
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 5: I love that shot?

938
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 3: She was like flabbergast. Does this guy ever miss? Up

939
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: until that point he hadn't.

940
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, hey, Rich, sign that guy?

941
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 5: Do we have that?

942
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 4: Rich?

943
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: Well?

944
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 5: Do we have this guy? Does Adele like basketball?

945
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 3: Does?

946
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: She is like?

947
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: Is she an NBA sickle? It's all kept fishing a

948
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: lot of games. I know, I know, but I'm like,

949
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: is it just a just to be seen? Obviously it

950
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 3: is with Rich, but I'm like, maybe is she a

951
00:43:58,320 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 3: hoop ed?

952
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: Do we know this is?

953
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 5: Anybody asked her?

954
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 4: Do people forget that Adella is a bucket?

955
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 5: Does she have a favorite team?

956
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I assume it's Lebron, like I guess, yeah, right.

957
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,839
Speaker 2: She had a residency in Las Vegas. Maybe she's gonna

958
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 2: help Bron bring a team to watch. Oh wow wow,

959
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 2: and she'll be at every game.

960
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: There is some news possibly heading into Game four tonight

961
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 3: Lakers center Mobamba. He hasn't played since the first round

962
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 3: of the playoff against the Grizzlies thanks to a left

963
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 3: ankle injury. I believe he's been cleared and is expected

964
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: to go. I think that's what the word was. I

965
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: think Woes said originally games four or five, and then

966
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,879
Speaker 3: I think, uh, correct him wrong. I feel like Trump

967
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 3: says that he is or no, it's Chris Haynes saying

968
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 3: he could play tonight.

969
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 4: Obamba. Cool?

970
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 3: Nice, there's some sort of can roll. Bamba give us

971
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 3: number five, game number five? You know Nicembo number five?

972
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: Number five. Sorry, there's something there.

973
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's Jamal Hours. We're closing.

974
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:02,720
Speaker 4: The ball is closed.

975
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Bamba number five. There's no way he plays. No,

976
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 2: why would you do that a guy not because he's Obama,

977
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 2: but game four of an elimination game. You don't bring

978
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,400
Speaker 2: a guy in to try and get his legs in

979
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,280
Speaker 2: an elimination, right, you're.

980
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 3: A little desperate, though, I mean, will we see Darbnham

981
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: just straight up start, you know, really start? Struder won't

982
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 3: go away from Must we go away from Barnbilt?

983
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 4: He should? Yeah?

984
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,399
Speaker 2: Probably, That's just who finishes games. That's the worrisome part.

985
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: You know, It's all right.

986
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: They only got one left, man, they can play forty eight.

987
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 4: That's how you do it in the playoffs when you're

988
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 4: gonna lose. Just ask all the bulls from back in the.

989
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 3: Day, do you believe it ends tonight?

990
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 4: No, you don't.

991
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 7: I don't know, man, I don't know. Backs against the wall, gentlemen, sweep.

992
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 7: It's hard to pull off an actual sweep against the team.

993
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 4: The Lakers are at home.

994
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 7: You have to imagine that they want to give their fans.

995
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 4: I want to give a.

996
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 7: Dell something to say about am I right. But also

997
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 7: Lebron would probably be happy to start his vacation and

998
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 7: get his son ready to be playing for USC come

999
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 7: fall time. I think we're gonna have to hear, or

1000
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 7: we will hear from Lebron about how bad his injury

1001
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 7: is actually after the season, because the guy was averaging

1002
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 7: like thirty three points a game during the middle of

1003
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 7: the season when he was going for the record. But

1004
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 7: as the people in the stream team are mentioning, Ant's

1005
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 7: on the table not doing well.

1006
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 4: No no, I crushed it, so it may be over

1007
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 4: for the Lakers as well.

1008
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: But I had to hit it like ten times, so okay,

1009
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: maybe we got it. Game four victory, Game five? What

1010
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: do you got, Ant? What do you got? You got

1011
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: another game in you. He's still wiggling.

1012
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 5: As soon as the Nuggets.

1013
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 3: As soon as the Nuggets now, you're just you're just

1014
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 3: throwing it around.

1015
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 2: Well, okay, dead.

1016
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 3: As soon as the Nuggets take care of this, be

1017
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: it tonight, be it. In game five, Lebron is going

1018
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 3: to say right away, I'm getting foot surgery.

1019
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 4: They told me any had surgery before the playoffs.

1020
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: Guaranteed we'll say it in the postgame press conference.

1021
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 7: I mean I wish yeah, like when he lost the

1022
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 7: Finals and came out with his wristrack exactly exactly.

1023
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 3: Here's just a weird fact too, about the Lakers as

1024
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 3: a franchise. They've never forced a game five. When they're

1025
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 3: in the disposition they're only eight Lakers franchise history, down

1026
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 3: three to zero. Never even give us a game five?

1027
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 3: Can they make history?

1028
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: Tonight. That's weird. Can they make history?

1029
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 7: Well, I saw, I saw a lot of people were

1030
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 7: comparing it to the two time Lakers, go, two time

1031
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 7: champion Lakers going up against the Dallas Mavericks and the

1032
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 7: twenty eleven playoffs them the JJ Burrea, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1033
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 7: watch your reds, Bruce, Yeah.

1034
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: Mobamba, he's going to come in and do that. Maybe

1035
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: you'll play all right, So let's hear from everybody out

1036
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: there who extends their conference finals, none of them or

1037
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: both of them, or one of these teams in the

1038
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: historic Lakers or Celtics, let us know in the stream

1039
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 3: team right now, we gotta take one more.

1040
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 5: Quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick, quick break.

1041
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 3: We'll throw some salt on that ant try and bring

1042
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 3: it back to life for bees.

1043
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,239
Speaker 4: That works for bees?

1044
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: Is it sugar salt?

1045
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 4: Now?

1046
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 3: I can't remember.

1047
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 4: It definitely works. I've never tried to bring back an insect.

1048
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I've seen Ken do it.

1049
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 4: Ken's over.

1050
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: Ken did it with a bee once. I can't remember

1051
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 3: if its salt or sugar whatever. We'll take a break

1052
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 3: and when we come back to to the night, Yeah, sugar.

1053
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: I believe a teaspoon of sugar can help bring back

1054
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 3: a bee, revive a bee? Ken did it once up

1055
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 3: on his rooftop patio.

1056
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you killed a lot of bees up, not proud

1057
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: of it.

1058
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 4: I shouldn't be killing bees.

1059
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, as I was a monster.

1060
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ever knew, but he did bring He just

1061
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: poured a bunch of sugar on it once that had

1062
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 3: been like stunned and looked sort of dead, and we

1063
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,479
Speaker 3: just like left it. And then sure enough, this guy

1064
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 3: like just came out of the sugar pile and was like, yeah.

1065
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 4: That's amazing.

1066
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: Well we got a coffee amazing. Well, there's coffee, there's

1067
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 2: a coffee machinery, there's a sugar this.

1068
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 5: It's sitting on his laptop.

1069
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 2: It's not done.

1070
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 4: We're gonna bring this ant back, Okay I did.

1071
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 7: I googled it as well about bringing bees back to life,

1072
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 7: and I found one important tip. Never feed bees honey,

1073
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 7: and don't try to force the.

1074
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 4: Bead to drink force a bea to drink sugar water.

1075
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,760
Speaker 5: I've told you the story of my old.

1076
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 4: Used to drink sugar water.

1077
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 3: Mister nights in Peace, that was his drink, just sugar water. Yeah, okay,

1078
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 3: let's get to tweeted the.

1079
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 2: Night tweet out the knight.

1080
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 5: Wow.

1081
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: All right.

1082
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 3: Our tweet the night is from Mike working Off. The

1083
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: Athletic Writer had a tweet that went around this weekend.

1084
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: It says, quote, the NBA is considering changes to the

1085
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 3: format of the All Star Game to try and to

1086
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: try to increase competitiveness, sources tell me and shams, including

1087
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: a return to the East versus West format there among

1088
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 3: other options. So there's an article on this from working

1089
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: Off in Champs.

1090
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 4: The NBA and the.

1091
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: Players Association agreeing in recent months to have these to

1092
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 3: have these talks about increasing competitiveness in the All Star Game.

1093
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 3: Prior to twenty eighteen, we used to do East versus West.

1094
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 4: But now we got the draft.

1095
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 3: We've just done the captains, we did it right before

1096
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 3: the game. We just might be going back to the

1097
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 3: old school.

1098
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 4: How'd they come up with this one?

1099
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 5: Any thoughts on this?

1100
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 4: At first?

1101
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, this is news, I guess, But this

1102
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: just sounds like, hey, competitiveness is just ain't there. They

1103
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: ain't trying anymore, let's talk about it. I don't think

1104
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: they there's really anything concrete good that will come of

1105
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: this in terms of just these options that's not going

1106
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: to bring back competitiveness is.

1107
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: Going back to guys are really going to dig in

1108
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 3: on the defensive end of an All Star Game because

1109
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 3: they got Eastern Conference.

1110
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 2: On their on their jersey. Yeah, I don't even know

1111
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference, brethren. I think more of a positive potential

1112
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 2: uh competitive game would be born from USA versus the world.

1113
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 2: You got so many damn good international players now, all

1114
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 2: the MVPs, But I don't even know. I don't even

1115
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: know if that's it. It's if the players want to

1116
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:35,319
Speaker 2: do it.

1117
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 4: There you go. It doesn't matter the format.

1118
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 7: It does not matter because my guess is you could

1119
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 7: go back to twenty eighteen and find a tweet that

1120
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 7: says the NBA is looking at ways to increase competitiveness

1121
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 7: for the All Star Game.

1122
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,239
Speaker 4: They're considering a player draft.

1123
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 7: And it worked once once for one quarter. That one

1124
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 7: quarter when they brought in the e Lam ending as well.

1125
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 7: Nothing will change until the players decide we want this

1126
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 7: to be a competitive game, and there is no incentive

1127
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 7: for it to be a competitive game.

1128
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 4: So I don't know, let's just change it every few

1129
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 4: years get.

1130
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 7: People talking about it is basically what it boils down to,

1131
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 7: the game will never be good, but that's fine because

1132
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 7: we are adults.

1133
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: We know that that's the case. As long as kids

1134
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 4: are having fun, who.

1135
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 7: Cares if we don't cancel it. I think a lot

1136
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 7: of people are saying, just cancel this thing. If this

1137
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 7: is the idea, then we should just can't just name

1138
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 7: the teams and don't play the game.

1139
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 5: Play the game.

1140
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 7: Let it be boring, and you, as a person who

1141
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 7: is critical thinking skills and concide what you want to watch,

1142
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 7: watch something else, and kids can have fun watching this game.

1143
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 3: If we go back to this East versus West, please please, please, like,

1144
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 3: just go back to everyone wearing their their own jerseys.

1145
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 3: We love those photos from back in the day, instead

1146
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: of the East and West jerseys, which are always pretty

1147
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 3: boring nowadays. Anyway, you got one black thing out one

1148
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 3: white team, let's just go to like, Okay, you wear

1149
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 3: your whites, we'll wear our colored road jerseys, and let's

1150
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 3: do it like that.

1151
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 5: This looks cool.

1152
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why they're thinking about going back to East

1153
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 2: West because nobody wants the current jerseys.

1154
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not selling.

1155
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 2: Who knows because East West at least it you know,

1156
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 2: it's traditional. I guess like you probably sell.

1157
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 3: I was wondering this potential decision to do this anything

1158
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 3: to do with Lebron coming up to the end of

1159
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 3: his career. He's been the captain for what six years

1160
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 3: running now, like it's gonna be over soon. He will

1161
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: be eventually out of the league, and it's like, once

1162
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 3: Lebron's gone, will this be a is a fun I

1163
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 3: don't know. I was just thinking that, like they're like,

1164
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 3: just go back to the normal way, no more captains

1165
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 3: for a couple of years.

1166
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 7: Who else has been captains? Curry Durant?

1167
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 4: Is that it?

1168
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: I think so?

1169
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 4: I think so can handle it.

1170
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right, Wow, because it's been you know,

1171
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: been Lebron whatever conference he's in. Yeah, and then the

1172
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 3: other guys from the other side. Yeah, all right, let's

1173
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 3: hear if people care not about this, go back to

1174
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 3: the East West. You want USA versus World? Do you

1175
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 3: want to get rid of it? Are you a curmudgeon?

1176
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? Maybe players didn't like being drafted, didn't like that idea,

1177
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 2: and that's that changes it because that was a whole

1178
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: weird thing.

1179
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 3: Well, then they had to protect everyone's feelings.

1180
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 4: I totally forgot about the reserves getting drafted first. So

1181
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 4: we wouldn't know.

1182
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: And then and then, as Mark Jackson said during the

1183
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals here he said, Jokic got picked last

1184
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 2: he was a starter. And then he actually got up

1185
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: before Larry Markinen, who was also a starter. So he

1186
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: wasn't really picked last, but he kind of was pick last,

1187
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: but he wasn't pick last at all because he was

1188
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: a starter.

1189
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 3: Anyway, why don't we make a like do like the

1190
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 3: lottery version of the NBA All Star Game. Put all

1191
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: their names on a little ping pong ball, throw it

1192
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: in a machine, pull them out.

1193
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 4: Sure, just random, random, have Jeff props to it. Put

1194
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,959
Speaker 4: all their names in a bag.

1195
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 7: You draw your buff. You got a plan a buff? There,

1196
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 7: you go, split it up, get to your mats. Come

1197
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 7: on in Lebron, which NBA All Star would be most

1198
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 7: likely to wear their buff like a tube toup?

1199
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 5: It's Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy, definitely Jimmy.

1200
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he loves a cutoff shirt.

1201
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 3: All right, good sweet there from Mike, Mike, excuse me,

1202
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 3: working off and go get yourself an athletic subscription on

1203
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 3: the athletic dot com slash no dunks. Let's call it there.

1204
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 3: But before we do, how is Ada doing your little

1205
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: girl who almost broke her arm.

1206
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, it goes down in the record books as a

1207
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 7: broken bone. According to the doctor's assessments, technically a fractured alma,

1208
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 7: so a small crack in her wristbone. She's in a

1209
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 7: soft cast now for maybe a week and then we'll

1210
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 7: see what's.

1211
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 4: Happening on Friday.

1212
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 7: But we were happy to dodge a hard cast for

1213
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 7: the entire dye of summer. We might be back in

1214
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 7: action next week. And this news broke during the playback.

1215
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 7: This arm broke during playback. Indeed, Yeah, tell me about

1216
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 7: the second.

1217
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 4: Quarter of Real Madrid versus Barcelona.

1218
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was gonna say thanks, everybody find us

1219
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,439
Speaker 3: on Friday, these two guys for that semi final game

1220
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 3: or Tess and I uh on on Sundays, very entertaining final. Well,

1221
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 3: unfortunate for you that Olympiakos, I guess didn't come down

1222
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 3: in the end by.

1223
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 2: A one point game. That was a great game. It

1224
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 2: was a great game. Yeah, Choto doing it again.

1225
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 4: Uh.

1226
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 2: Sergio Rodriguez leading his team. Then the other Sergio Yule

1227
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 2: hit in the game winning shot to become the all

1228
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: time leader in Final four scoring history. What a shot

1229
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: to good stuff.

1230
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: I didn't do anything all game barely. It played all

1231
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 3: that much. Hits the game winning ship shot in the

1232
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 3: championship game, game winning ship. That's what had before we

1233
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 3: went live on the air.

1234
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 7: I think this is actually a pretty solid show. Sorry

1235
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 7: j D, but I got a new part of my

1236
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 7: morning routine.

1237
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 3: Try to just drop.

1238
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 7: I'm glad we got it in though, glad we made

1239
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 7: sure to address it in the podcast.

1240
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 4: That's lingering.

1241
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 3: Maybe that's what killed the ants. It wasn't, or maybe

1242
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 3: it was fake.

1243
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 4: It was stumbling around. That is so easy to get.

1244
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 3: All right, guys, we'll call it there. Enjoy Game four,

1245
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 3: the Western Conference Finals tonight. We will be back tomorrow

1246
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 3: here in the Classic Factory live at TENNEM Eastern to

1247
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 3: talk about it and uh yeah, probably to talk a

1248
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 3: little bit about Mellow and his career now that he's

1249
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: officially retired, and a whole lot more, I'm sure. So

1250
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 3: join us then until Dan Clipper bros.

1251
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up,

1252
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome.

1253
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us, And remember everybody's watching the NBA playoffs,

1254
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: including that kid stepped on Ada's arm. Just watched Draymond

1255
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: Green kids learn, man learning learning learn.

1256
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 4: He gotta be careful.

1257
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 2: Gotta be careful, draymon.

1258
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 5: Embrace the day.

1259
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: People and people met, saying, oh, task killed an ad.

1260
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: That thing was crawling up my leg. What would you do?

1261
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 2: What would you? I smacked it seventeen times.

1262
00:57:53,880 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: Alright, p Am