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Speaker 1: But I think there's there's a bigger story here and

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Speaker 1: it revolves around the quarterbacks, right, and you have two

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Speaker 1: but he was lightly recruited and then when he got

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Speaker 1: knowledge of. To a tongue of I, Loo is different,

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Speaker 1: incredibly heavily recruited, remarkably well regarded, got hurt in college,

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Speaker 1: But there's there is something that needs to be discussed,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's very difficult to discuss it because as

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Speaker 1: for people who don't check every box of what something's

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Speaker 1: successful in the field. That's to a tongue of Iiloa right.

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Speaker 1: He's not terribly big, he's not terribly fast, he doesn't

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen's bigger, stronger, faster, and even to what Tua said,

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Speaker 1: there's just things he can do that Tua cannot do physically,

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Speaker 1: interesting place where we're going to watch the Bills take

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Speaker 1: And the guy who people were very, very tepid with

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Speaker 1: It's not like josh Allen doesn't have character, It's not

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Speaker 1: of that game. Chiefs are missing their top two wide

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Speaker 3: This is what Matt Nagio and Andy Reid have done

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Speaker 3: get the ball out of his hands. Now, you're absolutely right,

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Speaker 3: Kelsey's not the same player. He's clearly near the end.

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Speaker 3: That's part of it. And they just don't have much

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Speaker 3: speed at receiver right now. That's why Tae Kwon Thornton,

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Speaker 3: Jujus Smister should just run well anymore. So that that's

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Speaker 3: not that's a problem. I don't Another part of this

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Speaker 1: We're going to see the Dolphins take on the Bills.

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Speaker 1: How bad is it in Miami?

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Speaker 3: nephew of Mark Rippin, and they signed another quarterback. So

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Speaker 3: but look, it's Browning. He's been there for a number

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Speaker 3: of years. He has been much better than people in

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Speaker 3: the league thought he would be. He was an undrafted

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Speaker 3: free agent, not much as thought of him it's done

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Speaker 3: a good job. He's a very aggressive throw and as

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Speaker 3: we saw last week, you got it. You You just

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Speaker 3: have to deal with the turnovers. I mean he did

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Speaker 3: throw three picks, but he brought them back to win it.

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Speaker 1: You just have to deal turnovers. The number one determination.

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Speaker 1: Who wins it.

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Speaker 3: I got a live with it Mann. He's very aggressive, like

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Speaker 3: you see, Doug. Here's the thing, there's there's a coach

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Speaker 3: a term called stinger. You don't want to take it away.

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Speaker 3: Not that he's Brett Farr, but he's super aggressive. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: the more you coach and the longer they go along. Here,

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Speaker 3: Zach Taylor calls the plays the head coach. I mean,

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Speaker 3: he knows, he knows that Kitty's been with him for

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Speaker 3: a while. But they're super loaded in offense. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna sound crazy. I'm not really worried about him.

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Speaker 3: It's just their defense. Their defense was horrendous last season.

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Speaker 3: Al goll In, the former Miami and Temple head coach,

449
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Speaker 3: is their defensive coordinator doing a good job so far.

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Speaker 3: They're pretty competitive so far, and that's side of the football.

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Speaker 3: In the end, I mean, they're not gonna win the division.

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Speaker 3: Baltimore well be, but they do. They can hang in

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Speaker 3: for a wild card that in that AFC.

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Speaker 1: All right, he's the one and only Adam Kaplan, Fox

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Speaker 3: I do want to talk about the Brady situations.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's talk about right, we have a little time.

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Speaker 3: All right, Well, so, so I just want to tell

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Speaker 3: you that this is we don't have enough time to

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Speaker 3: really get in the weeds. But and I know you

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Speaker 3: did talking about I heard you, I heard you on

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Speaker 3: your show. I saw one of your videos on social media.

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Speaker 3: It seemed really poorly around the league. It's just the

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Speaker 3: rules are very clunky. You can't have both. There are

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Speaker 3: a lot of people who believe that, you know what,

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Speaker 3: if you want to be a broadcaster, that's fine. You know,

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Speaker 3: that's fine, but you should you should not be able

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Speaker 3: to do anything leading up to the game at all.

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Speaker 3: That that's really the way people see that I've spoken with,

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Speaker 3: he gets limited access. It's still clunky. There's a mistrust

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Speaker 3: on the situation. I could tell you from people I've

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Speaker 3: spoken with them I haven't spoken to fifteen people. I've

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Speaker 3: talked to three so far, but one high wrecking personnel

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Speaker 3: guy who actually reached out to me and wanted to

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Speaker 3: know what what other people thought. I said, it's not good.

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Speaker 3: And then this guy called. He actually called me from

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Speaker 3: the road and we talked about it. He said, it's

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Speaker 3: just ridiculous. And he said his team is not playing

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Speaker 3: the Raiders, but if they did, or or if now

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Speaker 3: he did, he is not sure if his team will

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Speaker 3: be having Brady's broadcasting with him. But he's look, he

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Speaker 3: goes this is he had no problem with Brady, think

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Speaker 3: he likes him personally, but he said he's talked to before,

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Speaker 3: but he just the people around the league dugged it

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Speaker 3: to move this along here. They just don't think that

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Speaker 3: this is kosher, so to speak. It's just kind of weird.

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Speaker 3: And I know that they've tried to limit his access,

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Speaker 3: but it's not comfortable that that's and he obviously you

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Speaker 3: saw him in the coaching booth on Monday night, which

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Speaker 3: is crazy. That was really wild in a suit. That

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Speaker 3: was wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, why is he wearing a suit? Why is in

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Speaker 1: the coach.

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Speaker 4: Coach?

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Speaker 3: Why doesn't he put like you know, the pullover on

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Speaker 3: the Riders pullover. Yeah, in fact, why is any on

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Speaker 3: the bench helping call plays? You know he's he oversees

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Speaker 3: a lot like the real story, Doug. Just so you know,

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Speaker 3: he's heavily involved in everything that they do. And that's

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Speaker 3: the reality of it. And look, look, he really would

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Speaker 3: have been a Raider as a quarterback. Am I reporting

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Speaker 3: on this? It was Grood for some reason. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why. He didn't want him as a quarterback. Mark

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Speaker 3: Mark Davis wanted this to happen and it grew him back.

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Speaker 3: Then decided like it was it was going to work.

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Speaker 3: But the bottom line is it's definitely where We'll get

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Speaker 3: more into the weeds next week. I have more stuff

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Speaker 3: on it. But it's just not it's not people are

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Speaker 3: not comfortable with it. That's the bottom line.

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Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan, Fox Sports Tradio, NFL Insider, Happy the best,

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Speaker 1: right man. Thank you thanks for listening to The Doug

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Speaker 1: Gotleeb Show podcast. Be sure to catch us live every

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Speaker 1: week day from three to five eastern twelve two Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The

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Speaker 1: Doug Goatleep Show at Fox Sports Treaty dot com or

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Speaker 1: streamers live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what up with you? Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 1: coming to you from beautiful Green Bay, Wisconsin. Got a

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Speaker 1: big Thursday night, Thursday night football game for you. Got

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Speaker 1: traditional rivalry right in that traditional rival Bill's Dolphins. Good

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Speaker 1: right now? Sean Merriman will join us, and twenty five

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Speaker 1: minutes you'll here for Ben Johnson. We got the press.

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Speaker 1: We've got a good show for you. But this is

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Speaker 1: kind of cool. It's not kind of cool, it's really cool.

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Speaker 1: I what I love about our show is that we

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Speaker 1: have legitimate sports fans on our show. And while you

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Speaker 1: may say to yourself, like what do you mean, like

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Speaker 1: everybody who does sports radio is are a legitimate sports fan?

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Speaker 1: Like somewhat, you know, do you go to events? Do

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Speaker 1: you go to golf golf tournaments? Do you go to

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Speaker 1: baseball games? Do you go to NBA games? Do you

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Speaker 1: go to NFL? Do you go to college football games?

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Speaker 1: Do you go to those games? You know? Do you

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Speaker 1: go to those games or not? And if you just

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Speaker 1: passively watch on TV and make comments, it's really hard

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Speaker 1: to feel like, you know, it's hard to relate to

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Speaker 1: the people that are listening to you. I feel like

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Speaker 1: people that listen to our show are sports fans. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you have to go to every game, but

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Speaker 1: you do go to gay games. But even when you don't,

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Speaker 1: it's like, we have to be able to touch the

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Speaker 1: people that we're talking about and the people that are

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Speaker 1: listening just to believe. And you would be surprised at

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Speaker 1: how few people in my position, in Dan Bayer's position

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Speaker 1: don't do that. Don't do that. So that Dan Byer course, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we've been together since I started Fox Sports Radio and

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Speaker 1: he's a gigantic sports fan, so he some somehow came

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Speaker 1: up with it. You know, I'd really like to go

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Speaker 1: to Orchard Park to see the Bills old stadium before

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Speaker 1: they knock it down and move into the new one.

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Speaker 1: And Jay Suh's like, you know what, I want to

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Speaker 1: do that, So they went together. Just can't wait again

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Speaker 1: on the road again, Buyer. How are you hanging since

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Speaker 1: that Red Eye?

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Speaker 4: We are doing all right? Jay Stu is just out

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Speaker 4: of his slumber. I took a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: pregame nap and Doug we are ready to do this

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Speaker 4: tonight at Highmark stadium. We are ready to go.

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Speaker 1: You're you're fired up for this? Okay, First, what's the

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Speaker 1: weather like?

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Speaker 4: Beautiful Chamber of Commerce day, hemps in the high seventies, sunshine,

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Speaker 4: short sleeve shorts, the whole deal. Beautiful day to be

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Speaker 4: in Buffalo, in the Buffalo area. So no complaints whatsoever.

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Speaker 4: Safe to say weather will not be a factor tonight.

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Speaker 1: Is it a George day?

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Speaker 4: There may have been a pair of Georges at our

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Speaker 4: first wing stop of our trip.

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Speaker 1: That we have seen went to wingstop.

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Speaker 4: No, we went to a wing place called so the

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Speaker 4: wing place that we hit was actually for those that

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Speaker 4: may follow Barstool and Big Cat and their their travels

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Speaker 4: to Buffalo. They love a place called wing Nuts, and

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Speaker 4: wing Nuts is right next to the airport. So it

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Speaker 4: was perfect for us to hit wing Nuts immediately, Doug,

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Speaker 4: what I mean immediately? Jason? I walked in at like

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Speaker 4: ten fifty nine. Our plane landed at ten. We got

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Speaker 4: our rental car, we got the luggage, everything slid in

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Speaker 4: and we sat down and it's it's a day. And

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Speaker 4: you know this for living in Green Bay, everybody is

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Speaker 4: wearing your Bill's jersey, whether you're at work or just

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Speaker 4: getting ready for the game tonight. People are already wearing

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Speaker 4: their bills shirts, their Bill's clothes, so we were ready

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Speaker 4: to go right as it opened eleven o'clock. That down,

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Speaker 4: it was magnificent. But truly there are things that are hype, Doug,

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Speaker 4: but this is like to start off with that for

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Speaker 4: our trip. I mean, I can't wait for the for

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Speaker 4: the next twenty four hours for what we're going to have.

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Speaker 1: Okay, amazing. Just quick question, when you went to wing nuts,

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Speaker 1: what kind of wings did you get?

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Speaker 4: So there are a variety of options. We got the

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Speaker 4: bone in of course, because that's the big It's no bonus.

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Speaker 4: We did get some bonus on the side, but we

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Speaker 4: went there for the main the main lines. They had

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Speaker 4: their own sweet and savory sauce, their own special signature sauce.

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Speaker 4: So it wasn't like a true buffalo, very sweet, very tangy,

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Speaker 4: very delicious. So much so I even bought a bottle

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Speaker 4: to take home with me.

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Speaker 3: That's good sauce.

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Speaker 4: This is good suck.

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Speaker 1: Then it is well vegus. Okay, give me the run

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Speaker 1: of the day. It's now four h six. Local game

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Speaker 1: starts at like eight forty. What's the plant?

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Speaker 4: So now we are. We are at the hotel, we

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Speaker 4: are about to venture down to Heimarch Stadium, and we

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Speaker 4: figure if it's going to take us about hour two

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Speaker 4: hours to navigate everything, do everything part and then it's

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Speaker 4: just let's survey the lot. Let's see these parking lots,

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Speaker 4: let's see this ailgate.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait hour to two

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Speaker 1: hours to survey, like to get there. How far is

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Speaker 1: the stadium from where.

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Speaker 4: You're staying, So it's about well, because of trap right now,

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Speaker 4: it's saying about a little over an hour to get

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Speaker 4: like to where we need to get to just because

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Speaker 4: of backups. So if we leave now after this call,

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Speaker 4: we'll get down there at about five fifteen and have

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Speaker 4: a good two and a half three hours of pregame

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Speaker 4: of able to check everything out to kick off not

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Speaker 4: till eight fifteen Eastern. That I'm taking some getting used

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Speaker 4: to for those of us that don't live in the

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Speaker 4: Eastern time zone. But that's that's that's the plan right now.

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Speaker 1: Wait, so, how far outside of downtown is the stadium?

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Speaker 4: So it's south of downtown and we're staying we're actually

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Speaker 4: staying a little north of the city. We're actually staying

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Speaker 4: more near Niagara Falls, and then tomorrow we're gonna be

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Speaker 4: doing We're gonna get married tomorrow and at the fall.

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Speaker 4: So the tomorrow because we're in for you. Tomorrow, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna be going to one of our great affiliates out

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Speaker 4: here in broadcasting the show that's near the hotel, so

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Speaker 4: we'll be able to do that have a lot of fun.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, about we got about an hour drive to go.

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Speaker 4: I think we've planned this pretty well. And can we

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Speaker 4: get in about our two in of the the tail

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Speaker 4: getting venture and then you'll shit in the magnificent seats

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Speaker 4: that you were able to score with us. I was

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Speaker 4: I sat next to a Bills fan on the way

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Speaker 4: to Buffalo, and I just I didn't want to brag

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Speaker 4: on where we were sitting and took all of my

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Speaker 4: might to not ask the person next to me, who

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Speaker 4: was also going to the game on where there's some twit,

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Speaker 4: But we will be right behind the Bills bench forty

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Speaker 4: rows up fifty yard line or some Thursday night football

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Speaker 4: to kick off Week three.

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Speaker 1: I started the show talking about this game, and it's interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's like we do all love the story of the

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Speaker 1: guy that doesn't have all the physical traits right, like, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, we always try and say physical traits are overrated,

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Speaker 1: but it's kind of what this is a case of,

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Speaker 1: right Like Josh Allen, he has character, he's a leader,

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Speaker 1: he's become more accurate, but the physical traits are just

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Speaker 1: jump off the sheet at you or just jump off

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Speaker 1: the screen when you're watching it, as opposed to Tua.

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Speaker 1: And Tua has all the things you want, he just

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Speaker 1: hasn't had the physical traits. Is that a fair way

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Speaker 1: of looking at it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I just think Alan is such a

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Speaker 4: freak as as he is, and we knew that. We

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Speaker 4: knew that coming out of college. That was the question.

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Speaker 4: It's why he fell. And I'm using air quotes, but

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Speaker 4: why he wasn't the first or second overall pick because

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Speaker 4: there were questions. But the Rock Allen stuff that you

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Speaker 4: know you can't coach is obviously there. The great thing

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Speaker 4: about this and just the sense and the short time

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Speaker 4: that we've been here is I mean, Doug, I've seen

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Speaker 4: probably fifteen bills Jersey. Now we've seen a lot of

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Speaker 4: different shorts, including one Jersey that I just sent out

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Speaker 4: a tweet, absolutely magnificent. But out of those fifteen bills, jerseys.

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Speaker 4: I saw one Khalil Sekir and I saw fourteen Josh

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Speaker 4: Allen jerseys, and so what didn't what I didn't understand

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Speaker 4: And now I feel I have a little bit of

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Speaker 4: better understanding of is not only Josh Allen the player

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Speaker 4: and how he is, but it's like what Josh Allen

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Speaker 4: means to this community and what he means to this franchise,

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Speaker 4: what he means to the city, what he means to

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Speaker 4: this area. Is not every player does that. There's so

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Speaker 4: like now when we look in the future when we

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Speaker 4: talk about Buffalo, We're going to be talking about Josh Allen,

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Speaker 4: just like I think we do with Denver in John Elway. Again,

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Speaker 4: I don't think you could do that with every single team,

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Speaker 4: but so Alan with the physical traits, magnificence, but even

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Speaker 4: just to see like how much of a of a

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Speaker 4: role he is and who he is and he's their

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Speaker 4: star and their star player, pretty amazing. And just the

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Speaker 4: short time that we've been here.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, what

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Speaker 1: is the what? What is the piece of clothing that

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Speaker 1: you have to are you? Is it a bobblehead? Is

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Speaker 1: the jersey? What do you bring it home.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm open to everything. I don't know if it'll

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Speaker 4: be a bobblehead, but I probably won't be a jersey.

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Speaker 4: But I'm not opposed to a Bill hat. I'm not

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Speaker 4: opposed to a Bill's shirt. Jason Stewart, Are you looking

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Speaker 4: for any sort of gear while we're here at the

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Speaker 4: game tonight? He says maybe. He says maybe, but probably

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Speaker 4: it's not as maybe it's you know, they got some

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Speaker 4: really sharp hoodies, like a Royal blue hoodies, but I

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Speaker 4: think sometimes royal blues to pull off if they've got

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Speaker 4: something in red that may be more my style. But

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Speaker 4: maybe a nice lightweight red hoodie if I if I

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Speaker 4: can pull one off.

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Speaker 1: There you go. He's Dan Byer. You'll see him tonight

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. If you're Bill's mafia, hit him up

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Speaker 1: on social media. He'll come over, chug a beard, jump

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Speaker 1: off the table U during your tailgate. That's that's what

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Speaker 1: he's say.

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Speaker 4: Check check out the tweet that I just said, I

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Speaker 4: take you in It of like, this is the first

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Speaker 4: jersey that we see within an hour of touching down

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Speaker 4: in Buffalo again, there were fourteen Josh Allen chick Wig Oh,

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Speaker 4: it's awesome. I was so excited for tonight.

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Speaker 1: Ain't no thing but a chicken wing. Uh. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: thanks so much, Dan, enjoy the night.

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Speaker 4: Bud, Thanks Dougs.

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Speaker 1: All Right, Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio