1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. So 2 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: Michael Very Show is on the air. 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: Daniel Penny has been found not guilty of criminally negligent homicide. 4 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: The jury deliberated for more than twenty four hours across 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: five days before reaching this verdict. 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: E re, did you gather in perfect palmony side by 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 1: side on my john key? 8 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: Oh? 9 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 4: Look, why don't we. 10 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: It's like everybody else has vigilities. 11 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: We need some black vigilities. 12 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 4: Right. 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 5: People want to jump up and choke us and kill 14 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 5: us for being loud. How about we do the same 15 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 5: when they attempt to oppress us. 16 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 4: I'm tired. 17 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 5: America hates black people and we see it from that 18 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 5: jury and. 19 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 6: Fifty yea. 20 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 3: He mon side by side? 21 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 6: Oh my god, h whine. 22 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: What? 23 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 5: Then an hour twenty minutes later they said not guilty. 24 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:46,040 Speaker 5: These wonderful white people, I hope they celebrate their Christmas 25 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 5: while the Nearly family is praying and asking God for comfort. 26 00:01:51,280 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 6: Then in America, never mind that Daniel Penny has not, 27 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 6: at least as of now, volunteered to be the rights 28 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 6: next to George Zimmerman or Kyle Rittenhouse to vigilante heroes 29 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 6: of the right who are beloved and famous among Republicans 30 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 6: solely for killing people. 31 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 7: Who they believe need killing and getting acquitted. 32 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: For it at trial. Armed conservative must. 33 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 7: Be heavily armed and empowered to kill at will with 34 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 7: your handgun, your AR fifteen, or even with your bare hands, 35 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 7: anyone who makes you feel threatened or uncomfortable anywhere, anytime, 36 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 7: at your front door and your driveway, driving by a 37 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 7: Black Lives Matter rally, or on the terrifying, scary black 38 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 7: man Field. 39 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: New York Subway. 40 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 7: And the people who tend to need killing just happen 41 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 7: to be black or brown, or suffering from mental health crises. 42 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 6: Or white but just a little too. 43 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 7: Cozy with BLM and killing them is not just your 44 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 7: right Republican citizen. Doing it makes you a hero. 45 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: Name the case of Daniel Penney, a United States marine 46 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: who was on the New York Subway and a black 47 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: man by the name of Jordan Neely there spent a 48 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: lot of time on the subway terrorizing people. At the 49 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: time of the incident in question, he had a pending 50 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: charge against him for terrorizing a woman on the subway. 51 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: You've ever been on the New York Subway, or you 52 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: can watch video there all day long. They're people who 53 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: film this. There are individuals who are not necessarily going anywhere. 54 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: They just stay on the subway all day, typically of 55 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: some sort of mental condition. Doesn't mean they won't bash 56 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: your brains any less, and they enjoy or derive utility. 57 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: It's what they do, terrorizing people on the subway. And 58 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: if you watch as they terrorize an old person or 59 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: little Asian lady, typically they do not terrorize the person 60 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: who looks the biggest, strongest, and toughest on the subway, 61 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: because that wouldn't last long if they did that. So 62 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: they terrorize who appears to be the weakest, the least likely, 63 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: the least confrontational, and most people sadly turn away, pretend 64 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: not to notice, or get up and go to another 65 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: subway car. Well, Daniel Penny didn't do that. He did 66 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: what as a society we say we want you to do. 67 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: You see something, say something, do something good. Samaritan protect 68 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: the weak. In the course of subduing Jordan Neely, he 69 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: was assisted by another person who happens to have been 70 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 1: a black man. A black woman testified in the case 71 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: that Jordan Neely was a terror on the subway and 72 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: everyone was afraid and they were grateful for this marine 73 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Daniel Penny, and in the course of subduing him, Jordan 74 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: Eely died. Did he have the intention of killing him, 75 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: It's rather clear he did not. He used a basic 76 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: sleeper hold like I use on Ramon when he talks 77 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: too much. You've seen a basic sleeper holder. Not that 78 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: big a deal, but it can happen that an individual 79 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: with an underlying condition does die. And Alvin Bragg, the 80 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 1: man who has reduced and removed charges on so many 81 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: violent criminals in New York, chose to bring this case 82 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: because it's a black man and the good Samaritan was 83 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: a white man. And this is what they want. They 84 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: want the race war. And then you heard the BLM 85 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: leaders and the NAACP leaders and all of these folks 86 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: saying what they're going to do to white people now. 87 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: NAACP posted the acquittal of Daniel Penny and the death 88 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: of Jordan Neely has effectively given license for vigilanti justice 89 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: to be waged on the black community without consequence. You know, 90 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: there's nobody in America that doesn't know what's going on. 91 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: It's not spoken of publicly, but realistically, every person in 92 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: America understands what's happening right now. Somewhere in America. A 93 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: black person is terrorizing someone else, maybe white, maybe black. 94 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: They're breaking in a home, or stealing a car, or 95 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: putting a gun in their face. And the problem is 96 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: there are too many people who see a black perpetrator 97 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: as some sort of victim, and you perpetuate this sort 98 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 1: of nonsense. More often than not, the victim is going 99 00:07:52,720 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: to be black because crimes occur against those who are 100 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: around us, So whites tend to commit their crimes against 101 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: whites and blacks against blacks. But you have people who 102 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: are stoking this race war because they have something to 103 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: gain from it, who are causing so many problems in 104 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: this country. White people are not running around as vigilantes. 105 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: They're just not. They're defending themselves, and in this case, 106 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: they're defending the weak, and the right thing was done. 107 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,839 Speaker 1: It's just as simple as that. Ramon unrelated. I was 108 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: driving in this morning and I saw the poorest person 109 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: I've ever seen, poorest person in the world. He was 110 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: sitting in the intersection and screaming will work for cardboard 111 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: and magic marker. 112 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 6: The Lake lac Aberry shot. 113 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: For me was once. 114 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: Plane carrying Otis Redding and his bandmates. In eighteen was 115 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 1: a sixty seven crashed. It was in Wisconsin, wasn't it 116 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: landed and skidded on the ice and couldn't stop. I 117 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 1: think Otis was twenty five, I remember correctly, and he 118 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: was the oldest member of the band. It was kids. 119 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: He had kids in that band with him. There was 120 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: a shot just fired a few minutes ago at Dimiko 121 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: and Rosine, which is near waw and Alan Parkway. Police 122 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: have confirmed that a security guard fired a shot at 123 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: a suspect during the altercation officers or on I don't know, 124 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: thirty two hundred Dimiko. I don't know. If that's that 125 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: new development where Annabelle and Turner's cut. Ben Burke's got 126 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: a place in there. It's kind of a high end development. 127 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: That is. That is the thing now, if you haven't noticed, 128 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: And again this goes back to it's not racial. It's 129 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: a type of person, many of whom are black. They're 130 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: not all black, but many of whom are you got little? 131 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: You got little like they know, gang bangers that are 132 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: Ms thirteen walking around. But when I was growing up, 133 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: if somebody, if my friend Craig mccab if his parents 134 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: were coming to the mall. He was an only child, 135 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: and they would I would tag around, tag along with 136 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: them for anything. We went to church with him. My 137 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: parents trusted him. He was my good buddy. So if 138 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: they were coming to Houston for the day to buy 139 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: clothes or do whatever it was, you would make a 140 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: day from Orange. If coming to the galleria, that was 141 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: like a thing. And I was fired let me be clearful, 142 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: I was fired up. And you would come over and 143 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: you might eat at the I don't know if they 144 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: had a Chick fil Aid back then, but you'd eat 145 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: down at the at the Ice Rank, you'd eat at 146 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: one of the little fast food restaurants in Man. I 147 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: was sh We didn't get to eat out because eating 148 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: out costs more than my mom could make. The food 149 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: for Hamburger helper is pretty cheap, and I loved it, 150 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, But getting to eat out was 151 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: a treat. And then maybe you know, a couple hours 152 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: into the afternoon, there'd be one of those toll House 153 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: cookie kiosks or whatever you remember those. Man, it wasn't 154 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: anything as good as that. That chocolate would be so 155 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: hot coming out of there, and melt and then oh man, 156 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: you might get you They didn't have dipping dots back then, 157 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: but there might be something like a little yogurt or 158 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: something that you didn't have an orange. This was Houston, man, 159 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: you were in the big city. This was It's might 160 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: as well be in London you had you had come 161 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: to the World's Fair, as far as I was concerned, 162 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: and the Galleria was a place to go. You watch them. 163 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: You go down into the into the lower level. They 164 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: had a lo madeland oh that was fancy French food. 165 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: Far as I was concerned. They had a sabarrow. You 166 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: might go get you a piece of pizza. That might 167 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: not be all you have. You might have something else. 168 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: You could go over to Visible Changes. Oh that was 169 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: where the fancy people got their haircut. You know, they 170 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: had levels. So if you were somebody, you'd have somebody 171 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: that had, you know, made it up the Masonic Lodge 172 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: to the thirty third order or whatever. You would pay 173 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: extra for your haircut at the same shot. That was 174 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: Visible Changes right there. You know, I've been supposed to 175 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: have McCormick on this show about one hundred times, the 176 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: guy who founded Visible Changes. I loved the story I 177 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:09,119 Speaker 1: absolutely loved the story. The guy made it, became a millionaire, 178 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: lost it all and built back, and that that is 179 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: a rare, rare feat. And what else I love. It's 180 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: just kind of like beaver appling with BUCkies, is he 181 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,320 Speaker 1: he took something that everybody had a shot at, and 182 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: he figured out how to take something that literally everybody 183 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: was doing and improve upon it to such an extent. 184 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: And the problem was the hairstylist business was was you 185 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: had a lot of people who were a hairstylist out 186 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: of a little shack in wherever, and then they'd get 187 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: in a fight, or they'd you know, their man had 188 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: beat him up and take their money, or they'd get 189 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: pregnant and they'd be knocked out for a few months, 190 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: and then they couldn't pay their rent. You know, most 191 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: of them were just renting a chair at somebody's little 192 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: three or four booth salon, or maybe they'd have a 193 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: little bit and they just they barely making it by. 194 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: And McCormick created with visible changes. For those of you 195 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: who remember, now, there were a lot that came after that. 196 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: Tony and Guy, they were all the different salons that 197 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: came after that. But I believe that when he did that, 198 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: he was the first person to really create a system 199 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: and give some structure to an industry where people were 200 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: kind of a free agent and struggling. And they had 201 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: that visible changes university members right there on fifty nine 202 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: at Sharpstown, and he kind of brought professionalism to it. 203 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: And I used to get my hair cut there for 204 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: a while and the people could, you know, they could 205 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: build up and he kind of, as far as I understand, 206 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: they taught him how to look at themselves as a 207 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: small business instead of just you know, make your money 208 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: and not having anything to show at the end of 209 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: the day. And it for the consumer if you came in, 210 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: because it's still the case today. You know, your hairstylist 211 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: is or your barber or whatever you want to call it. 212 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: That was really more a stylist. That wasn't really the 213 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: barber phase at that point. But your person is always 214 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: floating around. You know, they date some guy and moved 215 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: to San Francisco, or you know, stop working or you 216 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: don't know what's before the internet. You know, they they'd 217 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: have a fight with whoever owned the chair where they 218 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: were working, and you'd go there and they're like, oh no, sissy, 219 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: never worked here. She damn sure did. I was in 220 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: here three weeks ago. Uh she died. She didn't die. 221 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: She's thirty years old. And they wouldn't tell you where 222 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: they went. McCormick systemized, if that's the word, gave structure 223 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: to that whole industry anyway. So I put the word out, 224 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: and as often happens, I'm gonna talk out of school 225 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: for a minute, ramon. As often happens, I'll put the word, Hey, 226 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: I like to this guy McCormick. I understand he lives 227 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: in Houston in a pretty interesting story. We have friends 228 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: in common. I'd like to have him on the show. 229 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: So then the people who know that person will say, hey, Michael, 230 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: I understand you want to talk to In this case 231 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: John willcrn. Yeah, I think it'd be nice. Okay, well 232 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: what are you going to want to talk about? And 233 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: for how long? And you know I'll see it. No, no, 234 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: never mind, I ain't that interested in talking. It's say, hey, 235 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: how you doing tell me this story about the business. 236 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: We don't really need to have, you know, Putin's handlers 237 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: taste of food before you you sit down to the meal. 238 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: That's a little bit ridiculous. So many of our what 239 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,359 Speaker 1: could be fun interviews get killed because the person in 240 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: between feels like they got to run interference and set 241 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: this thing up, like you know, they're representing the Queen 242 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: of England. But anyway, so that was the mall all 243 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: by way of saying you can't go to the mall 244 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: anymore or you get jack And I've had more cops 245 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: tell me just stay out, keep your wife out of 246 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: them all, especially. 247 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 4: Lake lack Aberry ship. 248 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: I believe in Well today is today Mattress Smack will 249 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: undergo his open heart surgery. On the eve of his surgery, 250 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: where was he well at Gallery Furniture where else? Admitting 251 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: that he's a little nervous about today's four hour surgery. 252 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: The story from k H. 253 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 3: O You Sherman Chow caught up with Jim mcinveil with 254 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: less than twenty four hours before he goes under the ninth. 255 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: Where is Mac right now? Is it gallery furniture working? 256 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: Of course he is seven days a week. This is 257 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 4: where he is about the only thing that'll keep Mac 258 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: off of the sales floor. As an astro's playoff game 259 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 4: or open heart surgery. Mac has congestive heart failure and 260 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 4: it runs in his family. He's got six siblings. His 261 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 4: brother George died several years ago of it, and two 262 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 4: of his sisters have had heart surgery. One was just 263 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 4: eleven or twelve years old when she had hers done. 264 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 4: So far, he's managed his heart problems with drugs, but 265 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 4: now he needs surgery. 266 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 3: Is he worried? 267 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm nervous and apprehensive. I said to the anesthesiologist 268 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 8: what kind of drugs you give me? And they said fetanohl. 269 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 8: I said, oh no, that's kind of bad name. 270 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 4: The operation will be at Methodist and should take about 271 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 4: four hours. This afternoon, we saw a lot of customers 272 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 4: stopping by and wishing mac well, telling him they're praying 273 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 4: for him. Matt Aka Jim mcinvale says, these are his people. 274 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 4: This is where he gets his strength and energy, interacting 275 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 4: with folks. He's seventy three years old and as you know, 276 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,400 Speaker 4: he's never been shy about sharing information about his health issues. 277 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 4: He says. The hardest part of all this maybe having 278 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 4: to stay in the hospital for six or seven days 279 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 4: after the surgery and not been here at work. 280 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: Okay, Raman, is there a reporter who is actively employed 281 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: in Houston who would be more appropriate to follow that 282 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: story than shern Minshaw. I think shearn Minchell is as 283 00:19:48,480 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: much a part of the Houston horizon as anything. I've 284 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: always liked shern Minchaw, and I don't mean the way we, 285 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: you know, talk about news reporters how hot they are 286 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: and all that. I do. I do find she's a 287 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: very attractive lady, and I think she's aged very well. 288 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: But to me, shern Minchaw is one of those people 289 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: who has kind of transcended, Like you can't talk about 290 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: Sherman that way, you know what I mean. She's she's 291 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: like she's like your friend's mom, you know, or she's 292 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: like your friend's wife. You go, no, no, no, no, no, no, guys, 293 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: that one's off limits. You you can talk about movie 294 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: stars and all that. But even if you do find 295 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: her very attractive, and you should, you can't talk about 296 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: Sherman that way. She's just she's kind of almost, you know, 297 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: wearing a habit. You know, she's sort of a nun 298 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: for the city, you know. I mean, there are just 299 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: certain certain things I'm gonna give me, give me the 300 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: five things that come to mind that are just they're 301 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: not partisan, they're not racial, they're just they're beings that 302 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: are kind of you know what. I put Sheriff Fryar 303 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: in that category too. I'm gonna put Shay. I'm gonna 304 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: put sherin Man is very very high praise. I want 305 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: you to understand that who else you got? Who else is? 306 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: Oh Dave Ward. I put Dave Ward in there. Yep, 307 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: put Dave Ward right over there. It doesn't have to 308 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: be a broadcaster. But you know who else I'm gonna 309 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: put in there. I'm gonna put my buddy Wayne, don't 310 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: you Fino? Yeah, I'm gonna tell you a little. I'm 311 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: gonna speak out of school about Wayne dosch Fino for 312 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: a minute. Wayne, dontcha Fino got in a motorcycle accident 313 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. This is not widely known, 314 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: and it destroyed his foot and ankle and shin. So 315 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: he's walking around on like you remember the popsicles you get. 316 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: I think I think he's got like twenty popsicles duct 317 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: taped together like a peg leg. The dude is in 318 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: excruciating pain, but can't take painkillers for it because then 319 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: you couldn't build. No, I'm not I'm not joking. I'm 320 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: dead serious. Like he is in excruciating pain all day long. 321 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: You don't know it. If you watch one of his videos, 322 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: he looks like he's got kind of a kind of 323 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: a sour face a little bit. Sometimes his freaking foot hurts. No, 324 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: he tells me it does. It hurts. It hurts him 325 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: all the time. Who else you got in that category? 326 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: Like it didn't have to be I'll open the phone 327 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: line seven one three nine nine nine, one thousand, But 328 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: it started with shern min Chow And I just feel like, 329 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: I don't know when shern Minchaw came on to the scene, 330 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: but it just feels like she's kind of always been here, 331 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: you know. And didn't she anchor for a while or 332 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: does she never anchor? Oh? Camberrell Marshall, Yes, let me 333 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: tell you something. I used to do a weekend hit 334 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: I think he was was hit Channel two. I would 335 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: do a weekend hit with with you go in and 336 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: talk politics and different things. And this was twenty years ago, 337 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: and Camberrell was seventy at that time. And I remember 338 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: one time asking him how old he was, because that's 339 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: the kind of thing I'd do. And it was like 340 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: two thousand and three, and he was sort of like well, Michael, 341 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: I'm seventy eight, and I remember thinking, ah, Lee, I 342 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: thought he was about my age. So he's probably one 343 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: hundred years old. Now. You would be shocked to know 344 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: how old Camberrell Marshall is. I remember when he retired 345 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: and I'm watching him retired, and I'm like, why are you? 346 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: What are you going to do? You're just supposed to 347 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: be on the You just live inside the TV. 348 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 7: You know. 349 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: It's like that first time as a kid when you 350 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: realize that your teachers. You see him at the grocery 351 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: store and you go, why are you not where you 352 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: live at the school, because that's where the teachers are 353 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: supposed to be is at the school. But I want 354 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: to make sure I get my compliment in on this. 355 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,920 Speaker 1: I would put sherin Minchaw up there as a as 356 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: a Houston institution, and I can't imagine anybody doesn't like 357 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: sherin Minchaw. And you know the other thing is she's 358 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: Asian and you know it, but it feels like she 359 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: never tried to are you gonna answer those calls? It 360 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: feels like she never tried to, you know, like make 361 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: it about being Asian. She just kind of like she's 362 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,439 Speaker 1: just your buddy, Shearon Min and you kind of like 363 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: saying her name because it's kind of ethnic and you 364 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, you're my friend. Sherman child is my 365 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 1: other friend Wadai Lapadus, and he's just kind of normal. 366 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 1: He's just great. They're all Duncans, And do you know 367 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: duncan means your yo. I was trying to explain to 368 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: Ramon what makes Sherman special to me, and I think 369 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: the thing is that somehow she's managed to be in 370 00:24:52,440 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: the public eye, but very naturally in ca Like Dan 371 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: Rather started at ktr H, he went to CBS. It's 372 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: always been about Dan Rather, or David Murr for that matter. 373 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: He's got this belief that remember what he did during 374 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: the debate, you know, he's got this desperate desire or 375 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,959 Speaker 1: who was the one that lied all the time? Brian 376 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: Brian Williams. You get the sense with those people that 377 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: they're a complete diva, that everything revolves around them. They're 378 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: not a real real person. But I remember seeing a 379 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: social media poster two years ago, and maybe it was 380 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: a tweet by Sherionman, and it was about her kids, 381 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: and it wasn't like she was trying to go Hey, 382 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: I have a normal personal life. I just dropped my 383 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: kids at the pool. It was more sort of like 384 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: she doesn't take herself too seriously. It's a very hard 385 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: thing to explain, but it she captures it. And I 386 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 1: don't know that anybody in media quite did that like 387 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: she did and managed to. That's such a tough business, 388 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: especially for women. Sheriff Fryer and I have had this conversation. 389 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: It is, you know, you could be Dave Warden be 390 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty years old and anchor the news, 391 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: or you know, Steve Smith or Bill Boyessa or you know, 392 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But for women, they very kind of 393 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: casually just sort of move you on. You know, we 394 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: don't have a lot ramon in this city of Asian 395 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: American luminaries the way you would in say San Francisco, 396 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: or for that matter, in New York, right, and don't 397 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: I don't think of sherianman primarily as Asian American. But 398 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: I kind of like it, you know, I like a 399 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: little I like that. You know, everybody is not exactly 400 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: the same. A friend of mine said that he's always 401 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 1: wanted her to sign off with good night everyone. This 402 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: is Sherin min chow chow like, you know, the Italian child. 403 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 7: No. 404 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of a a. I thought 405 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: that was an interesting sign off. But my problem is 406 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: I have too much fun with where we're from, and 407 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, stereotypes and all that, and I you know, 408 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 1: my friends who are from whatever group, we laugh about it. 409 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 1: You know, my black friends say things that if you 410 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: heard them say on the air, you go, oh my god, Michael, 411 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: you should have That's what you do. That's how people 412 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: really talk, you know, that's they're having fun. They feel 413 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: comfortable when me, Matt, who you got. 414 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: Hey, Michael, longtime caller, long time listener for a time caller. 415 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 3: I got a comment about sure, man, I'm not a 416 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 3: big fan. I actually had a shooting at my house. 417 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 3: I had a guy brianking in and she reported it 418 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 3: as that assault rifle was used and I used it 419 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 3: in a defensive position. And I will never forgive or 420 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 3: forget the fact that she called it an assault rifle. 421 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: Well, she might not have any experience with guns. Tell 422 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 1: me what happened. 423 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: It was over fifteen years ago. I woke up around 424 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 3: four point thirty in the morning listening to a big 425 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: crash and my wife had adopted two little kittens, and 426 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 3: I thought one of them had gotten into something. So 427 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 3: I got up and looked, and right in front of 428 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: my front door, one of my little yard art, actually 429 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 3: a little fountain head, had been thrown through my window. 430 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 3: So I was like, I'll be darned someone through that 431 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 3: open my plantation blinds. To see three guys outside my 432 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 3: window pretty shocking, to be honest with you. Ran back 433 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: into the bedroom, went into my closet and tried to 434 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 3: open my safe, which is a dial safe. It probably 435 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 3: took me about three to four minutes maybe five to 436 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 3: open it, because well I missed the dial a couple times. 437 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: When I finally opened it, I actually reached into what 438 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 3: was a loaded mag because I had been to American 439 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 3: shooting centers that Saturday, this was an early Sunday morning. 440 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: Came back and by the time I came back, they 441 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 3: had taken my mosquito shade off, had opened my window, 442 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 3: and had actually sat on my window sill. The guy 443 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 3: was sitting on my window still ready to come in, 444 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: and I looked at him as I'm siding in through 445 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: a rifle and told him, don't do it. He looked 446 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: at me and told me fu and I said no, 447 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 3: Fu snuffed his head through the window, put his leg 448 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 3: in and I actually took one center mass shot and 449 00:29:55,920 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: he fell inside my house. Michael, it was running crime. Yeah, 450 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 3: it was actually a blood shot. I came to learn afterward, 451 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: a lung shot. I came to understand that as he 452 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: was saying, you shot me, you shot me, and little 453 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 3: blood bubbles were coming out. The paramedics advised me that 454 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 3: it was probably a lung shot through and through and actuality. 455 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 3: He ended up being killed in jail several years ago. 456 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 3: I was informed by the the victim's assistency in it 457 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 3: that he'd got in a fight at PDC and someone 458 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: stabbed him to death. But it had me very nervous 459 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: for several years. I had my could feel carry in 460 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 3: for the first time. I actually started caring after that. 461 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: But when Sherman Chow showed up that morning about six 462 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 3: thirty seven o'clock in the morning and did a report, 463 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 3: she interviewed me. Took about one two minutes to interview me, 464 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 3: which was aired. I did talk about how the police, 465 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 3: the sheriffs took a long time. She cut that out 466 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 3: of the report, though, which again kind of soured me 467 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 3: toward her. Not only did she tell me that, you know, 468 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: I was using assault rifle, which yeah, it wasn't ak again, 469 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: not because that's my bedside table. Just didn't have a 470 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 3: gun at that time, because I had a fifteen year 471 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 3: old child and I always worried about his friends coming down. 472 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: But it was really quite the shocking thing to have 473 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 3: to actually shoot someone. I actually took a defensive position 474 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 3: probably for fifteen twenty minutes afterwards, waiting to see if 475 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: someone came through the door, wait through the window. And 476 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,200 Speaker 3: then of course, once I got the courage up to 477 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,400 Speaker 3: actually go outside to clear they around the house. You know, 478 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 3: my old US Army training came into play and I 479 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 3: ended up having a situation where I actually cleared the house. 480 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: But again I had a problem with Sherman Chow calling 481 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 3: it an assault rifle. I had a problem with her 482 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: cutting out the part where I said, you know, the 483 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: cops took almost twenty seven minutes to come in. My 484 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 3: answering machine actually was going time in and time out 485 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 3: of calls at the time, and it took cops twenty 486 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 3: seven minutes to show up. I find they showed up. 487 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 3: The crime scene guy was cutting out the carpet where 488 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: he had been bleeding. And we're still in the house. 489 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 3: It was in my formal dining room, and my wife 490 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 3: still refuses to eat in that formal dining room. And 491 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 3: I fought for about a year for her to actually 492 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 3: let me stay in that house. She never wanted to 493 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: be in that house after that, you know, half mile 494 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 3: just there. 495 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: I would have brought up hidling winks if that's what 496 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: it good to get that story on the air.