1 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to the podcast. Got my favorite guest 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: on here. And it's not Bernie, and it's not Chad 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: or Parker or Marshall or London or a man or 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: say that to everybody or London. Yeah, it's you Amber, 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: my wife. I don't say that to everybody, do I? Yeah, 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: my favorite guest. How could I? I would be wrong 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: if I said that. Maybe didn't mean you. Okay, So 8 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: I get Amber on here. And anytime I have other guests, 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: I like, we plan it, usually put on the calendar. 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: But with you, I'm like, hey, can you please come 11 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: home the podcast real quick? And Maverick's taking a nap. 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just put him down and he's like, let's 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: go to a podcast. So we have a solid maybe 14 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: two hours. 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, so thank you. What we do is we answer 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: your questions. Email me podcast at grangersmith dot com. We'll 17 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: walk through the question and like two friends sitting in 18 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: the cap of a truck, you have a question, you 19 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: ask it, and I don't have any notes in front 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: of me or famous quotes, even though maybe I could 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: pull a couple up, but I'll just answer you like 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: like I would a good friend. And that's the format. 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Of this podcast. Currently, I'm coming to you. I'm very itchy, 24 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 1: so itchy, so itchy. I got tangled up into some 25 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: poison oak that we know of. Yeah, probably poison oak, 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: maybe poison ivy, although I've never had poison ivy in 27 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: my life. I've actually never had poison oak either. But 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: I just happened to be clearing some cedar and cut 29 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: up a tree and it was wrapped all in it 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: with poison oak vine. And this time of year it's 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: ripe like red. Those leaves are red and they just 32 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: look scary. 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got it pretty. 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: They're pretty, but they're scary. It looks like a red oak. Yeah, 35 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: the vine. 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 2: You were out there with mav. 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: Too, out there with Maverick. And I'm actually having on 38 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: my eyebrow and my eye lid and under my right eye, 39 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: all under my chin, behind my left ear, all around 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: my growing and the biggest parts on my side, my 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: rib cage on my left side. Yeah, And I think 42 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: that's where it started because there's some scratches and I 43 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: think it entered my bloodstream and it's just my flesh 44 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: is screaming at me. 45 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 2: Also, Granger is a minimalist, and if you know him. 46 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 2: You know this, but he likes to re wear the 47 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: same hoodie a couple days in a row, has the 48 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 2: same T shirt, the same T shirt under it. And 49 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: I said, babe, what were you wearing when you cut 50 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 2: this ceedar? The hoodie that he has on now? And 51 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 2: I said, a week ago, let's wash it. Let me 52 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: wash it because you're just putting the same oil over 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: your head. That's probably why it's on your eye and 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: your ear. But anyway, he's it you today, guys, that 55 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 2: was a really. 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Good point you made, Like you really got me. 57 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 2: I even thought about this morning because I saw the 58 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: hoodie laying there and I was like, he's probably gonna 59 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 2: put that back on. I bet that's what he was wearing. 60 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 2: I should have just taken it and washed it. 61 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: Because I'm like, how's it getting behind my ear and 62 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: under my chin and on my eye and on my cheek? 63 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: And everyone's like, hey, what clothes were you wearing a 64 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: week ago when you're cutting that seedar? And I was like, 65 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: this actually in this hat? 66 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 2: Okay, all of it, So that's what it is. 67 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: But what am I going to wear? If you watch 68 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: this though? 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 2: Well, we do have an apparel company. I think you 70 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 2: can find another yee hoodie. 71 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: Okay, should we get to a question. This is from Megan, 72 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: and she says, this is kind of a complicated topic. 73 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 1: Imagine that she says, you could see my children's You see, 74 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: my children's father is not a believer in the gospel, 75 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: but I am. We are no longer together. But this 76 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: is a topic that is thrown in my face on 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: a regular basis. Just recently he approached me and my 78 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: children were not to be brainwashed by the church and 79 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: taught to fear hell. I obviously have a different stance 80 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: on this topic, but to avoid an argument, I'm trying 81 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to plant a seed in 82 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: his heart to reconsider Christ is good and we all 83 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: need him. I think I'm just asking for advice on 84 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: how to plant that seed so we could be in 85 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 1: unity when it comes to teaching our children in the Gospel. 86 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: It actually sounds like a complicated question, but it's actually not. 87 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: That's very normal, Megan, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. This is 88 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: a situation that so many people are in, so many 89 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: of our friends, so many people that we know, and 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: they say. 91 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: They're no longer together. I mean, this is the situation 92 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: that some of our friends are together in dealing with this. 93 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and some are not. Yeah, we're not, and so 94 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: much so it is. I say it's common, and I 95 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: don't say that to minimize the the severity of it, 96 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: but it is common enough that even the apostle Paul 97 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: speaks about it, not the separated part, but being with 98 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: an unbeliever. 99 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: This is biblical. 100 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is biblical. Some people believe in some people don't. 101 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 2: Until the veil is removed from their eyes, until the 102 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: Lord changes their hearts. So she's asking about how can 103 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: I plant seeds for him? And I would just advise 104 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 2: you to keep living your life the way that you 105 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: are as and have as much grace for him as 106 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: you can and kindness for him as you can. But 107 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 2: you and your girls, I think I think she said today, 108 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: have girls pray for his heart, pray for his heart 109 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: to be changed, because you guys can't do it. You 110 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: can plant seeds, and you can just speak openly and 111 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: just say, you know, the Lord is my savior and 112 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: we believe in what the Bible says. And I'm taking 113 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 2: our girls to church because you're not together, so he's 114 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 2: technically not the head of your home anymore now if 115 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 2: you guys are married, this would be a different, different talk. 116 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: But you aren't together anymore, or so you are taking 117 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 2: your girls and your your submission is first to the Lord. 118 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 2: So you need to be doing what is what is 119 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,919 Speaker 2: what the Bible says to do, which is train your 120 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: children up in the way that they should go, and 121 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 2: take your girls to church, your children to church, pray 122 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: for this man's heart to be changed, and have your 123 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: girls pray pray for him. 124 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: That's where first of all, I don't know where you're 125 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: getting girls. 126 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 2: What did you not? Did she not say girls? 127 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: I don't see it, but it says children children. 128 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, maybe I don't know. I just put girls 129 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 2: in there. 130 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: So the idea of your children are not to be brainwashed. 131 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: His children are not to be brainwashed. I don't blame them, 132 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: because that's a legitimate concern that any child would be 133 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: brainwashed by some kind of system or manipulation or anything 134 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: that would be that that would be false or wrong 135 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: or what could hurt them in a way. And so 136 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 1: you could use that and say you could talk to 137 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: the brainwashing part of it and just say, hey, our 138 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: children are are free to think and choose and and 139 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: listen to and contemplate of many ideas. And so if 140 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: you want to, if you want to dig in with 141 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 1: them about the Bible, I'd be happy to sit with you. 142 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: And we could even have one of our pastors at 143 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: our church come and sit. We could we could dig 144 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: in to understand kind of the the history of it, 145 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: the working of it, so that there's not a mystery. 146 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: And you know, many times when someone digs deep like that, 147 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: they actually find the truth it because it's undeniable. So 148 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: there is there is that. But but I besides the 149 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: telling the gospel, which is the seed, there is only 150 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: one seed. You say, how do I plant the seed? This? 151 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: There is only one seed, and that is the Gospel. 152 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: And that is the story the good news that God 153 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: came to reconcile sinners through his son Jesus, God knowing 154 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: that people could not be good enough to come to him, 155 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: that could not fulfill his law, and that were because 156 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: he's a just God, and sinners deserve hell for rebelling 157 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: against him, because he's a holy God and can't have 158 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: corruption around him, and because we are ourselves guilty of it, 159 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: of committing that crime against him. Then knowing that we 160 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: could not be good enough, and knowing that if he 161 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: didn't do something, if he didn't act in that he 162 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: would be alone in heaven because there would be no 163 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: one else. And that's not to say that he wouldn't 164 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,079 Speaker 1: that he would be unhappy. God, the triyuing God in 165 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: himself has enough love in himself and enjoy and happiness. 166 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: He doesn't need anything else. He doesn't need people, but 167 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: through his mercy in his creation, through his people, seeing 168 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: that people had no way to get to him, that 169 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: they were all corrupt, that all had turned, that all 170 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: were evil, that no one was good, not even won. 171 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: The Bible says God, in his mercy in instead of 172 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: giving us justice that we deserved, he gave mercy to 173 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: his people, coming to earth in the person of the 174 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: son of Jesus, going to the cross, becoming a replacement, 175 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: a substitute, taking the sins of the world onto his 176 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: own body on the cross, and then for those that 177 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: looked to him and his resurrection as God raised him 178 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: from the dead, defeating death, becoming the ultimate sacrifice for sin. 179 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: As people looked to him, turned from their old ways 180 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: and looked to him and trust the forgiveness of their sins. 181 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: Through that sacrifice to them. He says, You'll be with 182 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: me in eternity. That's the way we get to God. 183 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: It is not by our own good works. That's the 184 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: good news. That's the only seed you could plant. You 185 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: could say that story in a bunch of different ways, 186 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: but that is the only seed you could plant. So 187 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: and you don't have to plan it over and over 188 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: and over. Sometimes we think I got to tell him 189 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: the gospel again today, Not necessarily. If he hears it 190 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: and understands it, you could move on and just love him. Yeah, 191 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: just live a life that makes Christ look awesome, and 192 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: love him and forgive him and be gentle and practice 193 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: humility around them. And that's the only thing you could do. 194 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't be naggy like you need to go to 195 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 2: church or are you know, live your life. A lot 196 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: of people they can see by how you live and 197 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 2: sometimes just by the way that you're living out your 198 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: life and your faith. It makes them want to know 199 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 2: more about that. Well, why does she have this light? 200 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: Why does she have this joy? So that's a way 201 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 2: that you could plant a seed. But you can also 202 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 2: just invite him, just keep inviting him to church, have 203 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 2: him to come to church with you just say I'd 204 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 2: love for you to join us. If he says no, fine, 205 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: but maybe one day he'll say yes. And just keep 206 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: praying for him. 207 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, let's get another question. Blaine says, Hey, Granger, 208 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: my wife and I are going through a divorce because 209 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: of past decisions I've made, including stealing, lying, manipulating, alcohol abuse, 210 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: financial infidelity. We have four kids, ages two to nine. 211 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: We've been separated for almost a year now, with a 212 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: divorce being on pause currently because she started a new 213 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: job and it's been stressful for her to deal with 214 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: it all. My main question is this. I was baptized 215 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: about nine months ago, and I've been involved in a 216 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: regeneration program at my church. Through this, I've learned more 217 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 1: and more about spiritual warfare. I do feel, due to 218 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: my lack of spiritual knowledge, that I was in a 219 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: very dark place in my life when I chose to steal, 220 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: chose to drink and hide it, chose to manipulate anyone 221 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 1: close to me to think I was a good man. 222 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: Now that I'm grown in my faith, it's hard for 223 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: me to understand divorce. When I talk about being in 224 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: a very dark place with my wife, it's labeled as 225 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: an excuse. It's hard to hear, but I would love 226 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: your thoughts. Thanks blame. Did you understand that last part? Yeah, yeah, 227 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: explain it to me. 228 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: She was saying. He's saying, now that he realizes he 229 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 2: was in a dark place. I think it's coming across 230 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: as when he says that to her and he's realizing 231 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: all these things. She's she's making him feel like that's 232 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: just an excuse. 233 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: That makes sense. Yeah, I think you're right, and and 234 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: it's hard to blame her. 235 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're hurt and betrayed. 236 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: And this is another story we see a lot. It's like, Hey, 237 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I've you know, I abused you in so many ways 238 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: by stealing, lying, manipulating, alcohol, financial infidelity. I've done all 239 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: this stuff so much so that I've basically run you 240 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: out of the house and stressed you out beyond your wits. 241 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: But guess what, I've been baptized, and I'm in this 242 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: new program at church, and I'm a change. I'm changed, babe, 243 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: And now I have a bunch of knowledge about spiritual warfare. 244 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: And now I know that that wasn't me that was 245 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: doing all that stuff. That was the devil. And so 246 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm changed now. And she's like, get out of here. 247 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 2: Well, it's been nine months. I mean I would I 248 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 2: would think nine months since his baptism and this program. 249 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 2: Nine months is a pretty long time to be able 250 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 2: to see fruit or evidence of a change like art 251 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 2: is he has he done any of those things in 252 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: the last nine months. 253 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 1: We also don't know if. 254 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: She right, and we don't know if she's a believer, 255 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 2: because praise the Lord if he is, if he is 256 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 2: in this new if you got. 257 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: Baptized, yeah, blad, I'm not minimizing. I'm just saying. I'm 258 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: saying from her perspective, she's like, get. 259 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 2: Out of here, right, She's like, I don't believe you. 260 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 261 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the worldly thing is not believing in a 262 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: changed heart. But praise the Lord if your heart has 263 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: changed and you're working on it. And I also find 264 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 2: it interesting that the divorce is on pause. The word 265 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 2: has put it on pause for this time, maybe so 266 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: you guys could work it out. 267 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a total grace that you don't deserve 268 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: blame that all of a sudden there's there's a you know, 269 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: a new wind has blown and it is everything's on pause. 270 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: So because this new. 271 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 2: Job you've got some time. 272 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: You've got you've got time, and and every second is 273 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: critical in this. 274 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, like Granger said, you can't obviously you probably you 275 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: can't blame her. You've lived with her, You've known what 276 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 2: you've done, and we are like, we don't know if 277 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 2: she's a believer. We are called to forgive. And I 278 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 2: believe that any marriage can be redeemed and restored no 279 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: matter what has happened, if both parties are repentant and 280 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 2: willing and ready to come together again, and both of 281 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: you chase after Christ. So I would use this time 282 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 2: pour into her as much as you can try to 283 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: make up for that lost time. Keep praying, pray together, 284 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 2: pray for her, serve her in ways that you hadn't before, 285 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 2: and hopefully she will be able to see fruit and 286 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: and hopefully come around and maybe try to give this 287 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: one more shot. Yeah, I mean, obviously the Lord is 288 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 2: placed it on hold for a reason. So start dating 289 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 2: each other again. 290 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,960 Speaker 1: Let's say too that Blaine, this is where if we 291 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: were in a cap of a truck, I would start 292 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: asking some questions back to you. But one of the 293 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: questions is you say I was baptized nine months ago. 294 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: What I would prefer you to say, is I become 295 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: a Christian nine months ago and was baptized. I would 296 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: prefer it worded like that, like the Lord saved me 297 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: nine months ago. After all this, then through his word, 298 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: the Lord radically saved me, and then I was baptized 299 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: as a response to the saving. And what I hope 300 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm not hearing here or reading from this email, is 301 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: that you were in a really dark place and everything 302 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: was falling apart, including your marriage, and you're like, well, 303 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: I may able to just go to the church and 304 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: get baptized, Like maybe that'll help me, Because the answer 305 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: is it won't. You. Being dunked in some water absolutely 306 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: means nothing. 307 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people do that in a very 308 00:15:57,960 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: part season. 309 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: It means nothing unless the Lord has saved you and 310 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: given you a new heart and radically turned your life 311 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: around back towards him. And you say, I'm all in Jesus. 312 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: What do I do in your first work and obedience 313 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: to Him is to get baptized and to testify in 314 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: front of the church that you're now a new creation. 315 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: And everyone sees you go in the water and comes 316 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: back up, and then you walk as a new creation 317 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: in the good works that have been that have been 318 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: planned for you by Him. And so that's what I 319 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: hope is part of this regeneration program at your church. 320 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: I don't know necessarily what that means, but just walking 321 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: with the members of your church, serving in your church, 322 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: being held accountable by the other members of your church 323 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: as you hold them accountable as well as Christians. And 324 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: instead of saying, though I've learned more and more about 325 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: spiritual warfare, great, but what I want you to say 326 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: is I've learned more and more about who God. And 327 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: so those are the two little nuances that maybe you 328 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 1: meant in your email, but maybe you didn't. But there's 329 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 1: a huge difference between the two things. 330 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is and like I said, we don't 331 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,719 Speaker 2: know what's happened in the last nine months, if you have, 332 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: if she has seen fruit, or if she hasn't. And 333 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 2: the only thing that might make this work is a 334 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: little bit of time and patience with her, if that's 335 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: something that you know, broken relationships take time to build 336 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: trust back. So I think over time she will see 337 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: hopefully see fruit in your life if your heart has 338 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: truly been converted and. 339 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: The Lord has used these dark moments of separation and 340 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: divorce and loss and grief. The Lord uses those moments 341 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: where people well are desperate to fix it, and then 342 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: in the fixing, the Lord saves them. But if you 343 00:17:53,600 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: heard the way I described, it's it's a it, it's 344 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: kind of backwards. Because what you need, Blaine, and what 345 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: you probably maybe you don't even think this, maybe you 346 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 1: don't even know this, but what you need is to 347 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: be forgiven of your sins by Jesus. And the only 348 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: way you are forgiven is by turning from your old 349 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: life and turning to Him and trusting his forgiveness that 350 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: he's provided through his work on the Cross. And to 351 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 1: need forgiveness, you need to know what's at stake. If 352 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: you don't have it, you need to know you're standing 353 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: before God is bad. You're standing for a judge and 354 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:42,680 Speaker 1: he says guilty. And because he is the ultimate judge, 355 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: the higher the judge, the bigger the judge, the more 356 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: severe the punishment. So if you're standing in front of 357 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 1: your local county courthouse, that's one thing. If you're standing 358 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: in front of your state courthouse, that's another thing. If 359 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: you're standing in front of the Supreme Court, that gets bigger. 360 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: As the court gets bigger, and you're in this story 361 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: we're talking about. You're standing in front of the highest court. 362 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 1: You're standing in front of the sovereign God, and he 363 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: looks at you and says guilty. And if you recognize 364 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:16,880 Speaker 1: the severity of that charge against you, then the more 365 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: you'll need and desire and crave forgiveness that Jesus provides. 366 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: Here's my point. I say all that because it sounds 367 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: like you're doing this the baptism thing, the program at church, 368 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 1: the learning about spiritual war is to get your wife back, 369 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: and your wife is the least of your worries as 370 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: a sinner needing forgiveness. Once again, I started this whole 371 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: conversation by saying, the Lord uses that uses a I'll 372 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 1: call it a sinful desire of wanting your idol back. 373 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: I just want my wife back, It's all I want. 374 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: What should I do to get my wife back? Get baptized, 375 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: learn the Bible, pray well, whatever, just give me my 376 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: idol back and the idols my wife. You need forgiveness. 377 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: And when you find forgiveness in Jesus, the forgiveness that 378 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: he has provided through giving himself up on the cross 379 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: with his own blood when you realize what he's done 380 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: and the severity of the crime. Here, the severity of 381 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: the crime is easy to understand when you know that 382 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: God gave his only son to pay for it. That's 383 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: a pretty high price. That is the highest price. And 384 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: so when you understand the severity of it, you go, 385 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: I don't need my idol. I don't. The wife is 386 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: the least of my concerns. But if I have Jesus 387 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: and I love him, now I could love my wife 388 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 1: more than I ever did before. And now she's not 389 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: an idol. She's a gift from the Lord, and the 390 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: Lord has given me this gift in her, and now 391 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: I want to serve her and love her and provide 392 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: for her and care for her, and not raise my 393 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: voice and anger against her or abuse her with my words, 394 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: with alcohol or financial whatever. So that's how this is 395 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: how the river flows. It flows that direction, and so 396 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: blame if you hear anything from this whole conversation. Don't 397 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: ever get baptized to get the girl back. Anybody listening, 398 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: don't get baptized, don't go to church, don't pray. Don't 399 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: do that with the means of getting getting your wife 400 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: back or the girl back. Don't let that be the 401 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: end of the means. Let the Lord let seeking forgiveness, 402 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: seeking his grace and mercy be the end, and then 403 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: through seeking that, everything else will fall into place. Just 404 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: a reminder if you want to get a hold of 405 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: me in any way or have me make you a 406 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: video message from my phone, you could do that by 407 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: going to cameo dot com slash granger Smith. You enter 408 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: the information you want me to say, like say happy 409 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: birthday to my brother, he's a fan of your music. 410 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: Whatever that might be, happy anniversary, maybe just a word 411 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: of encouragement, especially for people this time of year that 412 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: are hard to buy for you don't know what to 413 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: get them, or it's last minute. Go to cameo dot 414 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: com slash granger Smith and I'll make you a video 415 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: message however you want me to say it. 416 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: We're back. 417 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: We're back. So if you want to email me podcast 418 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: at grangersmith dot com and put your question and you 419 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: could ask anything you want. I don't even care ask 420 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:24,199 Speaker 1: anything you want. I wish I had some what's it 421 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 1: called klumine? Calumine? 422 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: I put some on your side for your face. 423 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: I need some from my neck, my neck. It is yeah, 424 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: we'll finish this podcast and now I'll give you. I 425 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: will gladly give you this hoodie to wash. Okay, you 426 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: remember the last time you washed it? 427 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: No, I don't. 428 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't. 429 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: Because you usually don't put it in the dirty clothes. 430 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: Baby. 431 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: It's just you just lay it somewhere. 432 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: So I could pick it up the next time I 433 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: need it. 434 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: No, I just need to grab it and wash it. 435 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: This might be a lesson for me and for everyone. 436 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 1: Wash your clothes. Wash your clothes kids. Adam, hopefully you 437 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: don't have that same question. Adam says, Hey, gring your 438 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: my name is Adam and I'm a huge fan. I've 439 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 1: been following your podcast since you first started it. I 440 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: tune in every Monday for it. I also watch your 441 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: teachings on YouTube. Man, Adam, thank you. You might be 442 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: the only one that tunes in every Monday. Appreciate you. Man, 443 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: I'm making this podcast just for you, he says. My 444 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: question that I bring to you is how do I, 445 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,479 Speaker 1: as a twenty three year old, go about meeting someone. 446 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: I'm heavily introverted and it takes me a little bit 447 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: to open up to new people, so it's tough for me. 448 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: Whenever I go to a bar or any social gathering 449 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: to try and talk to new people. I've always struggled 450 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: with it, and I try to start up a conversation 451 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: with new people that try to break this habit. Is 452 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: there anywhere in the Bible that may teach or help 453 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: me see this differently? I would love to hear your 454 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: thoughts or advice on how I could break this. 455 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: Adam, I feel like we answered a question like that 456 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 2: on the last one that I was with with maybe 457 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: find an introverted guy looking to find I think he 458 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: was looking to find a girl, though, So. 459 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: We're going to dive in like we're cab of a 460 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: truck here. And first of all, Man, thank you for 461 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,719 Speaker 1: the encouragement of watching the podcast. I love that youtune 462 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: in every Monday. That's really encouraging for me. I honestly 463 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: sometimes wonder if anyone's listening or watching or just kind 464 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: of scanning the scan in the YouTube. Okay, yeah, maybe 465 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: twenty three years old, super young. I'm not worried about 466 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: you running out of time anytime soon. A lot of 467 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: people will say things like that, like I know I'm 468 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: getting up there in age, or you're not. You got 469 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: a long time heavily introverted. Great, that's what makes the 470 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: world go round. There's nothing that I would ever tell 471 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: you that say you shouldn't be introverted, or in order 472 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: to meet someone you need to be extroverted. No one's 473 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: ever going to tell you that or that would be wrong. 474 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: That's your personality. You say, it's tough to go to 475 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: a bar or social gathering and try to talk to 476 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: new people, so you try to break the habit by 477 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: striking up conversations with new people. I don't know, I mean, 478 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: maybe that's healthy, the practice opening up to new people. Yeah. 479 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like he's twenty three. So when 480 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 2: was COVID five years ago? Yeah, you know, I feel 481 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 2: like there has been a disservice to the kids, teenagers, 482 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: young adults in that area where everybody just secluded themselves 483 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: and locked themselves up and everything became online talking. And 484 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 2: I know we've dealt with social media for a lot, 485 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: way longer than that, but I feel like something about 486 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: this age range, there's a lot of people that seem 487 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: to be very introverted and find it hard to talk 488 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 2: to people. Yeah, and that's just the world we live 489 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: in now. I think everybody is so much on their 490 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: screen and not going out and meeting new people. So 491 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 2: it makes it weird whenever we have to actually go 492 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: out and have a conversation with people. I mean, I 493 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 2: find out when I go out even to restaurants and 494 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: people don't even look. 495 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: At you or talk to you. 496 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 2: So maybe that's not the case for him, but I 497 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 2: feel like that entranged. I hear a lot of people 498 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: that struggle with that, being introverted, being led through that 499 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: COVID season of being stuck by themselves. 500 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,959 Speaker 1: So his question is is there anywhere in the Bible 501 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: that may help or teach a way to see this differently? 502 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 1: He says, that's an interesting question. 503 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: That's an interesting question. 504 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, the short answers know. The short 505 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 1: answers know the Bible doesn't address dating. Dating is really 506 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: a new issue, and it's we have invented this in 507 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: modern history. We don't know anything about the for instance, 508 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,200 Speaker 1: the Apostles, we don't know anything about their wives. Specifically Peter, 509 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: he would be the one that we the only one 510 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: maybe that we actually have a word from, but we 511 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: don't know anything about her or how they met. But 512 00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: certainly in first century Judaism it was arranged, or it wasn't. 513 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't at all in the context of we think 514 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: courting is today. In the fact that's I would have 515 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: to I would have to dive in. And I've never 516 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: really studied that history of courting, but I'm assuming it's 517 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: two hundred years maybe, and it's at most maybe a 518 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,399 Speaker 1: little more, maybe three hundred years since people actually courted 519 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: each other. But typically it would be just someone's gonna, 520 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, someone's gonna set you 521 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: up or arrange it. And I mean, certainly in ancient times, 522 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: this is the only way you were arranged by a family. I, 523 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: as a father of a thirteen year old daughter, am 524 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: totally down for arranging. It's not gonna happen, but I 525 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: feel like that would be pretty awesome. Like me and 526 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: you we go and find like a really good family 527 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: that we already have a couple in mind. I already 528 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: have a couple in mind, and I'd be like, hey, okay, 529 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: and I would go present the dowry to the other family, 530 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: like I'll give you my daughter and thirty thousand dollars. God, 531 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, some girls might need a little bit more 532 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: to because it's worth getting them on the house, I 533 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 1: would assume, but Adam all that to say, No, the Bible, 534 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: I'm kidding. The Bible doesn't speak about dating or getting 535 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: over being an introvert. So you could date. 536 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 2: But I will tell you what the Bible does speak 537 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: on is that God created us for community and created 538 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: us not to do things in isolation. Yes, And so 539 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 2: I would say, are you involved as a local member 540 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 2: of a church of a local church? I think so? 541 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: And I feel like I say that on every single podcast, 542 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: Every single question that we have about this is people 543 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: ask how do I meet people? How do I meet people? 544 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 2: How do I meet people? I feel weird go into bars? 545 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 2: Are you a member of a church? 546 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: You know? 547 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: I feel like so many times you can meet people 548 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: through your local church and meet people through families there 549 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 2: or youth events there. You know, you're twenty three, you 550 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 2: might be a little old for the youth, but still 551 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 2: I feel like that is such a special way to 552 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 2: meet new people. 553 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I totally. I mean, I totally agree. I 554 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: think getting involved in things that you love. I've said 555 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 1: this so many times over eight years of this podcast. 556 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: Now one of my go to things to say to 557 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: this kind of question is find something you love, a hobby, 558 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: and go do that, and inevitably you'll look around you 559 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: and there'll be someone that shares that common interest. Maybe 560 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: you're really into bowling, for instance, like I love bowling. 561 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: I go to bowling tournaments, go join a league and 562 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: talk to the people, and you might not find a 563 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: girl that's bowling with you. But maybe one of the 564 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: guys on your team has a sister. And one day 565 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: she's twenty one years old and she's visiting from the 566 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: next town over and she comes to visit her brother 567 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: and you see her and you go wow. And then 568 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: here's where the introvert thing comes in. You think, I 569 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: am so introverted. I'm scared to say something. So you 570 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: go to the brother and you say, man, you know me, 571 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: you like me, right, And the guy's like, yeah, I 572 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: like you. You're my buddy. I wonder if you would 573 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: ever introduce me to your sister. And maybe that's a 574 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: bad example because brothers. I've never had a sister, so 575 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how that goes. But that's just an 576 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: example of you don't necessarily need to be extroverted. You 577 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: just need to be in community. Yeah, and community, and 578 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: the community usually starts with hopefully a church. That's what 579 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: Amber and I would encourage. So let's say that that's 580 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: already in place. So you've got the church going on, 581 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: and then you're also in the chess club, or you're 582 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: in the bowling league, or you're in the skeet shooting club, 583 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: or you're you like to watch parades? Are you go 584 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: to circuses? Are you watch drag racing? I mean like anything, 585 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: literally anything you like poodle dog races? I don't know anything. 586 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 2: There's some favorite hobbies you're not telling me about. 587 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: All you have to do is think what do I 588 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: love to do? What do I like to do? You 589 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: like to play Mario Brothers. There's a league probably for that. 590 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: But get involved in the community, and then hopefully that 591 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: involves a church, and hopefully you're also sharing the gospel 592 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 1: why you're in community. And then while you're doing all this, 593 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: and you're chasing after Jesus and you look over to 594 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: your left and there is someone chasing after him at 595 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: the same rate you are, and you say, hey, you 596 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: and grab some coffee and she says, yes, I do, 597 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: and there's your wife. Yeah, So so take that, Adam. 598 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 2: I was just going to add on the end there. 599 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: If you do get yourself involved in in a local body, 600 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: even if you're introverted, if it's a healthy church, they're 601 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 2: going to come to you and start talking to you. 602 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: Like you might not even have to come out of 603 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 2: your shell per se right at the beginning, but those 604 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: people and that church will come to you and say 605 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: hey and welcome you in and start about to strike 606 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: up a conversation. 607 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 1: Use your family, yeah, you use your mom and your 608 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: dad and your siblings, and say, hey, if you know 609 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: of anybody, if you know anybody that's singled around my age, 610 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: I would love to go on a date. And I 611 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: have no Angela is one that that actually happened to. 612 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: So are there are people in our friend group that 613 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: two parents met at the country club and said, I 614 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 1: have a son that's this age, I have a daughter 615 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 1: that's this age. My son's single, my daughter's single. And 616 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: then they talk more and then they say we should 617 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: set them up. And that just kind of circumvents the 618 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: whole introverted thing. And you don't have to go to 619 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,960 Speaker 1: a bar and like impress a girl. That just you 620 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 1: don't have to do that stuff. Next question comes from 621 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: anonymous steer granger, I'd like to remain anonymous. I'm thirteen 622 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: years old and I live in Utah. Let's hit the 623 00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: dirt road, he says. So, I struggle with lust, and 624 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: when I when I lust, I feel my personality and 625 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: the way I handle things change. My question is how 626 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: do I not change when I stumble? Because I know 627 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: when I lust and when I fail, my slate is 628 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,800 Speaker 1: wiped clean by Jesus on the Cross. But there's this 629 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 1: girl I really like who when I hang out with her, 630 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: it's the opposite, and I feel disgusted by my lust. 631 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: Do you have any tips or anything for me to 632 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: turn away from the sin? I love your music and 633 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: I love your podcast. Thanks for reading and considering my question. 634 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: What a sweet kid, and scary because he's thirteen. Yeah, Heyboddy, 635 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: I've once been thirteen so many I'm gonna boldly step 636 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: into this situation here, and I'm gonna try it first. 637 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: I'm let's try to understand what he's asking. He says, 638 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: I struggle with lust, and when I lust, I feel 639 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: like my personality and the way I handle things change. Okay, 640 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: let's just take that sentence alone. I struggle with lust, 641 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: and when I lust, my personality and the way I 642 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: handle things change. That is that is the thirteen year 643 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: old talking. 644 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: That's speaking lusting. I mean we obviously we don't know. 645 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: Is this lust in his mind or is he acting 646 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: on this lust? 647 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: He doesn't say, don't know. I don't think so. I 648 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: think this is something that struggles with mentally. But what's 649 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: happening is the the animal in him? Yeah? Is that's 650 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: what he's because he can't explain why his personality changes. 651 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: And we look, let's let's be as crude as we can. 652 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: Let's say about dogs. When a dog goes in heat, 653 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: they change their personality and the way they handle things change. Like, 654 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 1: that's what he's saying. I mom ass cows, right, So 655 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: when you separate the bull and the cows and one 656 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,920 Speaker 1: of those cows goes in heat, that bull will jump 657 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: a barbed wire fence. Yeah, I've never seen it. Personally, 658 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: I know they'll break the fence. I've never seen him 659 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: jump it, but I have seen him in the pasture 660 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: with him Yeah, like, how did he get here? He 661 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: jumped from away? His personality and the way he handles things, 662 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: The way he handles things. The bull on a normal 663 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: day is eat the grass, and hang out and go 664 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: get a drink of water. But when he lust, because 665 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: of the smell of the heat of the cow, his things, 666 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: the way he handles things around the fence change and 667 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: he will do anything he can to break it, to 668 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: jump it. So that's like physically, that's that's what's happening 669 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: to you. You know, we are not cows and we 670 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: are not dogs. Were humans are different, and we're different 671 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: in that we still had that animal being. We're we're 672 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: from the earth were we have We're a creation. We're 673 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: not a creator. We are we are creatures. And because 674 00:35:55,239 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: we're creaturely, we have attributes of dogs and cows. And 675 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: so the Bible says, the Bible has laid out God 676 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: has laid out his word in a way that this 677 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: creaturely lust that we have, he has a way that 678 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: he directs it, and that is towards marriage, so that 679 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 1: when you're in marriage, then all of these creaturely desires 680 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,440 Speaker 1: are satisfied in a healthy way that doesn't hurt anything. 681 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,399 Speaker 1: And if you don't, if you don't follow that, then 682 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: you'll find yourself in a really bad place. And most 683 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: of these emails that we've read when it comes to 684 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,560 Speaker 1: separation or divorce, or you would say, oh, yeah, there 685 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: it is, and you just cannot make an argument at 686 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 1: all that lusting after everyone and chasing your creaturely desire 687 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 1: and following it down every rabbit hole that it goes 688 00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: to leads to a happy life. It always leads to depression, sadness, 689 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,919 Speaker 1: and tortured souls. So the god God says, here's here's 690 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: my law. Do this. So now let's tap back into 691 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: the question here with anonymous. 692 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't mean it's not hard like the Lord 693 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 2: has put that in us, as Granger said, though for 694 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 2: our husband or our wife. So those are temptations that 695 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 2: we will fight. One of the things that I that 696 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 2: I like from this question is that he's seeing it 697 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: and he says he's disgusted by it. So he said 698 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 2: something earlier about I know when I lust, Jesus forgives 699 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 2: me and I'm wiped clean. Yeah, if you believe, you know, 700 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,320 Speaker 2: if you're a believer, you know, it's not like you 701 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: can just lust and do all this stuff and Jesus 702 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: automatically forgives you. 703 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: Like that's not Yeah that I was going to go 704 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: there too. Okay, it's not automatic. 705 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: It's not automatic, but the fact that you are disgusted 706 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 2: by it, which that's that's we are at war with 707 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 2: our flesh. When we are converted and we believe and 708 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 2: we want to follow the Lord, our sin does grieve us. 709 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 2: So that's a good thing that I'm seeing from this 710 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 2: thirteen year old boy. 711 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm at war with my flesh right now. 712 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we hate scratch. He's just a war 713 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 2: with his flush, but like we hate our sin. When 714 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 2: the Lord has changed us, we hate our sin. So 715 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 2: that's a good thing that you're warring with this. So 716 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 2: he says, what does he say? Is there anything I 717 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 2: can do to turn away from this sin? 718 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,799 Speaker 1: Yeah? So the question, you know, it starts off very 719 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 1: very specific to anonymous this guy and his specific situation, 720 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: but really the question is the most general, but it's 721 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: still very good question, and it is this, do you 722 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: have any tips or anything for me to turn away 723 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: from this sin? And so we said this earlier in 724 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: the podcast, but first we need to understand how serious 725 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: sin is and it's this serious? Is it? Is it 726 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: something that just we just throw away, we kind of forget, 727 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: like oh Jesus wipes the wipes the slate clean. Let's 728 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: think about that for a second. So he says, I 729 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,760 Speaker 1: know when I lust and when I fail, my slate 730 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: has wiped clean by Jesus on the cross. Let's think 731 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: about that, if you could, if you could go back 732 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: in time right now, and you could moments after the 733 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: crucifixion at Calvary and talk to one person that was 734 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,959 Speaker 1: witnessing this and say, did he just wipe this slate clean? 735 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? It's pretty cool? Huh. 736 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: Everyone would be horrified at what they just saw. Crucifixion 737 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: is the worst way to die. Broadly speaking, it was 738 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: the let me say that only rephrase that crucifixion was 739 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,960 Speaker 1: the best technique for the Romans to execute in the 740 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: most brutal way to get the quickest result. And the 741 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: result is let's make an example of this, of this 742 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: person that has broken the Roman law of some sort. 743 00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: Let's make an example of humiliation. It is the ultimate humiliation, excruciating, painful, 744 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,839 Speaker 1: horrific death torture device, and the Romans were good at it. 745 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 1: So to watch a man efphyxiated, losing his air because 746 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: he's trying to hold himself up on the bones of 747 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: his feet and trying to pull himself up on the 748 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,800 Speaker 1: bones between his hands that giant, rusty nails have gone through, 749 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 1: and you in order to breathe, because your reaction to 750 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: that such pain is to collapse upon your own lung 751 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,959 Speaker 1: your own lungs, and to take a breath of air, 752 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: you need to stand up on the nail that's going 753 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: between the bones of your feet and take a breath 754 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:49,839 Speaker 1: and then sink back down. And so you do this 755 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: for hours. You push up on the bones and pull 756 00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,720 Speaker 1: with the hands that have nails right through the middle 757 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: of them into the wood, and you pull up and 758 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: just for a second you take a breath of air. 759 00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,399 Speaker 1: Then you sink back down. All the while people are 760 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: mocking you, throwing things at you. There are in many cases, 761 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: if you're taking too long because you're breathing too much, 762 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 1: and everyone's kind of getting bored, or it's getting dark 763 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 1: and that you can't have people hanging at night, so 764 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 1: they'll break your legs. So then it makes it even 765 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: harder for you. So now you have broken legs, and 766 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 1: not the case of Jesus, he didn't have a bone broken, 767 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: but in most cases of crucifixion, you're trying to stand 768 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: on broken legs that they broke with hammers on the 769 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,240 Speaker 1: bloody nails, holding your butt. This is crucifixion. It's absolutely awful. 770 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: So I just want to say that we should think 771 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,680 Speaker 1: really hard, and it's hard, but we need to think 772 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 1: really hard about saying, oh, Jesus wiped a sleeve clean 773 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: on the cross. Did hey, you know what that meant? 774 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,879 Speaker 1: Do you know the pain that he must have gone 775 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,279 Speaker 1: through for you? Do you know that for you he 776 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: wiped the slate clean on that cross. Yes, for you, 777 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: So don't go back to it for you to turn, 778 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 1: for you to turn, don't go back. He did that, 779 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: so you're forgiven. So don't go back to the sin. 780 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: Use that. Let that fuel you, and let it fuel 781 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 1: you to know that if he hadn't have done that, 782 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: you would never be free, you would never be forgiven, 783 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,839 Speaker 1: you would never be seen right in the eyes of God, 784 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 1: you would never be righteous, and you would be condemned. 785 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 2: So often people say, you know they And this is 786 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 2: a short email, so it's hard to hear his heart 787 00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: behind it, but so often people will say that, well, 788 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 2: I know Jesus. Jesus knows my heart. You know he 789 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 2: died from me on the cross. I know I know 790 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 2: I'm forgiven. He knows my heart well, our heart is 791 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 2: sinful and wicked. So I just you know, he said, 792 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,080 Speaker 2: is there anything I can do? I would hit your 793 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 2: knees every time that you feel that lust, as you know, 794 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 2: as David, cry out to the Lord. You know, God, 795 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 2: create me a new heart, a clean heart. God, take this, 796 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 2: take this sin from me. I cannot do it alone. 797 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,400 Speaker 2: I war with my flesh. 798 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 1: Help me. 799 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 2: Lord. Just continue to cry out to God, thinking of 800 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: him on the cross and what he has done for you, 801 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,359 Speaker 2: for that sin that you are fighting, and beg him 802 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 2: to remove it from you. You will not be perfect. 803 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 2: We will struggle with this until we're called home. But 804 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,240 Speaker 2: every single time you have that thought, go open your Bible, 805 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: hit your knees, and beg the Lord to take that 806 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:25,600 Speaker 2: sin from you. 807 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm in. And the other thing is to know, 808 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: first we know what the cost, the price that Jesus paid. 809 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: And the second thing is to know that how serious 810 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: Jesus was about sin itself, so serious that he says, 811 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: if your right eye causes you to sin, then pluck 812 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: it out. If your hand causes you to sin, chop 813 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: it off, because it's better to go into heaven without 814 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 1: a hand or without an eye, then to go into 815 00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: hell with two hands and two eyes. That's how serious 816 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,640 Speaker 1: that he. He's not minimizing this at all. So that's 817 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: how serious he is. And he's speaking directly to you 818 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: and to me and to everyone. He's saying, are you struggling, 819 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: gouge out your eye? You know, so know the price, 820 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: the cost, and know how serious he was about it. 821 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:21,000 Speaker 1: And now when we let's sit on that foundation, and 822 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: now let's get practical. Practically, you're with this girl, you 823 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: really like her, and when you're with her, you start 824 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 1: to lust. So practically avoid the situations where you're alone, 825 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 1: avoid the situations where you are tempted in any way, 826 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: are able to act on the lust. If you can't 827 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: handle it, then gouge the eye out and say I 828 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,719 Speaker 1: can't hang out with you. 829 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 830 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,319 Speaker 1: Now, hopefully it's not ever going to get so bad 831 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: that you cannot see a girl that you actually like 832 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 1: because you're so overcome with lust. Hopefully he doesn't get there. 833 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 1: But if you get to a situation where every time 834 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: you just see her, this is why maybe I shouldn't 835 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: go here, but I will. But this is why in Islam, 836 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: the women who are dressed the way that they're dressed, 837 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: and and and it's it's from a lot of different reasons, 838 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: but for one of the foundational reasons Islam, why you 839 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: see women dressed usually in black and completely veiled is 840 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: so that the the men don't stumble with lust. So 841 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: it's like a way, it's a it's a way for 842 00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,120 Speaker 1: them to go, Hey, I know how to fix this problem. Anonymous. 843 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,320 Speaker 1: How about we just get all the women to veil themselves. 844 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: Then we don't have the problem. That's that's the wrong 845 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 1: way to think of it. They could think of a 846 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: million ways. Why that's it's not not the right way 847 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,799 Speaker 1: to do it. That doesn't fix the problem. In fact, 848 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: it might even make people lust more perhaps, But Anonymous, 849 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: let me get to the point. If your right, it's 850 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: continued to send plug it out. So stay away from her, 851 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:03,280 Speaker 1: and especially alone, especially at night, especially in a bedroom 852 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,439 Speaker 1: or a car or any place like that. 853 00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,479 Speaker 2: If you're scrolling her page or something at night, don't 854 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:09,799 Speaker 2: do that. 855 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: There's that destroy your computer if that's what it takes. 856 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 2: You don't know what's fueling lust, you know, I mean, 857 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 2: this question could go so general question, This question could 858 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 2: go very very deep, for a thirteen year old boy. 859 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,000 Speaker 2: So I don't know what's fueling this lust. But as 860 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000 Speaker 2: Granger said, if there was anything else that is fueling 861 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:28,879 Speaker 2: your lust of the eyes or of the fleshyouget out. 862 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: Let me say this. Let me say this. This will 863 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: finish the question and the podcast. Anonymous. You're anonymous, I 864 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 1: get it. It's embarrassing. Don't be anonymous to everyone. 865 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, confess to somebody, you know. 866 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: Go to someone, a friend, a parent, a sibling, a cousin, 867 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: a teacher, a coach, a pastor, anyone. Go to anyone, 868 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: and we would recommend a friend like that. Usually starts 869 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,600 Speaker 1: with a friend. You need accountability, buddy, like Daniel in 870 00:46:57,640 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: the Bible, you need buddies, and you go, I got 871 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,359 Speaker 1: a problem. Can I tell you about a problem, dah 872 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: man anything. I'm I'm having this problem with lust right now. 873 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,799 Speaker 1: Will you help keep me accountable? Brother? Yeah? Man, I will. 874 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: What do you wanna do? Okay, Well, when's the when's 875 00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,640 Speaker 1: the time you're vulnerable? Usually at night? I get vulnerable 876 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: when I'm all alone and I have my screen. Okay, 877 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna text you at 878 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 1: seven am tomorrow and I'm gonna say, did you stay clean? Okay? 879 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: Text me okay. And so nine o'clock at night, you're 880 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 1: getting lonely and you're scrolling this girl's page and you think, oh, man, 881 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta. I can't lie to my buddy. 882 00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: Tomorrow he's gonna ask me at seven am if I 883 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: stayed clean, and I'm gonna say, yes, I did. I 884 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,359 Speaker 1: have to do it. So you're gonna put the phone down, 885 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: and then seven am hege major stay clean. Yeah it 886 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,399 Speaker 1: was hard, but I did. How about you? I did too. 887 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: And then if you slip up, you tell them and 888 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:54,799 Speaker 1: you keep each other accountable. You fall, I fall, So 889 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 1: let me hold you up so that you don't fall, 890 00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 1: because if you go down and I go down, this 891 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,040 Speaker 1: is this is the accountability you have to have to 892 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,640 Speaker 1: do that. Let's practically do that. Anonymous, don't be anonymous 893 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,279 Speaker 1: to everyone. You could be anonymous to me, but not 894 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 1: to your buddy. 895 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,600 Speaker 2: Two her better than one. 896 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: Love y'all say next Monday. Thanks for joining me on 897 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,279 Speaker 1: the Grangersmith podcast. I appreciate all of you guys. 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